Is the internet killing the art of conversation?

[M-50]

Is it? More people using the internet to communicate now instead of writing letters. Is that killing the art of conversation? I think that it is to some extent as less people are writing letters and more peple are using the net to talk. :headbang:

[emmasu]

i totaly agree with that

cuz
first, the topics in the interent are always silly and without meaning and a lot of people keep talking about these topics, so that those people heads become full of these silly idea.

For example, if there is a topic about HIV, alot of people will particpate and will give their opinions about that topic, you will get benefit from other ideas and you will get new knowledge that will help in your life.

Second, in the internt everybody are trying to get attention and be the cool perosn in the converstaion, so they come up with these silly comments or even insulting comments, so that you do not wanna to complete that converstaion because of that, even you have the potetional to do that, but you are not giving the chance.

[everblack]

i totaly disagree. Yes there are many examples of totaly meaningles and vulgar uses of the internet, however people still have the choice to use old conventional means of communication. Also the internet has made it easier for us to communicate. When we talk of communication we are talking of 'it' in general not just snail mail. For those people who see communiction as an 'art' then yes internet has killed it and I think it should kill you too.

[Reinsai]

Yes and no but i think people tend to go both ways. but in a way yes i could see it beause most people are dependent on the internet and stuff. Its kinda sad to see it happen, but i think its a slow movement progression thats slowly taking over if not moving faster then ever. Well people still talk, so i dont think theres to much to worry about, though in my opinon talking on the internet is missing a medium of emotion so it kinda fails at getting somethings across to the reader.

[dragoneyes001]

Is it? More people using the internet to communicate now instead of writing letters. Is that killing the art of conversation? I think that it is to some extent as less people are writing letters and more peple are using the net to talk. :headbang:

hmm one question:

how does writing letters equate to conversations?

if I'm not mistaken conversation is considered oral communication.

and the internet does allow live voice conversations with no long distance charges so people who before couldn't converse regularly because it was too expensive are now able to carry on much longer and more frequent conversations and the likelihood of talking to people from a far wider variety of places increases the subjects that can be discussed.

even though teens and kids like to use forms of writing like 7331 speak and such to communicate. many of these very people will carry on more communications than they would have otherwise if not for the net they also tend to drop the leet speak when online with friends even though your right that the quality of the conversations is questionable its not a forgone conclusion that less conversations are occurring.

[M-50]

hmm one question:
how does writing letters equate to conversations?
if I'm not mistaken conversation is considered oral communication.
and the internet does allow live voice conversations with no long distance charges so people who before couldn't converse regularly because it was too expensive are now able to carry on much longer and more frequent conversations and the likelihood of talking to people from a far wider variety of places increases the subjects that can be discussed.
even though teens and kids like to use forms of writing like 7331 speak and such to communicate. many of these very people will carry on more communications than they would have otherwise if not for the net they also tend to drop the leet speak when online with friends even though your right that the quality of the conversations is questionable its not a forgone conclusion that less conversations are occurring.
When I said 'conversation' I meant the ability to write letters fluently like as if you were writing your name out. Less and less people are writing letters for private reasons, more and more are to do with business. :headbang:

[dragoneyes001]

When I said 'conversation' I meant the ability to write letters fluently like as if you were writing your name out. Less and less people are writing letters for private reasons, more and more are to do with business. :headbang:

but wouldn't that be "the art of Grammar"

[M-50]

but wouldn't that be "the art of Grammar"
Yes it probably would be. But also what I said before. :headbang:

[Rising Phoenix]

In a general way I disagree, for one thing I've met many more people and kept contact on the net then I could have possibly kept pace with in my local area.

The net also allows people that have similar interests to literly flock together which, I believe, allows friendships to bloom more easily. And maybe later the people will meet up 'outside' the net.

I do agree however that it's far difrent to have the person you are discussing with infront of you rather then an 'anonymous' post on a forum. In this way yes the Net is killing conversation.

And as for the "art of Grammar" ain't that the responsibility of the schools? Perhaps we could have a grammar correction toolkit on the forums....

That said, I know a couple of people who need to 'download' a life and converse more in real time with other people.

Cheers,

R.P.

[CHC999]

Well instead of writing letters, we now right emails, both formal and informal, just like we write formal letters and in formal letters.

I think the problem with internet is face to face interation, we are talking least to real life people, not that the dude in msn is not a real person, I mean as in more reality sort of way, like your friends and family. Friends now say "talk to you in msn tonight" instead "I will come to your house and chat" or "meet you in CS" instead of "lets stay and play basketball". Personally I think thats the problem with internet.

As for grammar, we dont use that much anyway, unless you are in the royal family, you will live most of you life happily with simple words and little notes. The invention of words and grammar was created because human found it nesscary for survival to communicate, and make it easy to not phyically be there to tell the person, but instead you can write it somewhere. It originally not to be fancy, but for practical uses

[Something_Clever]

It isnt killing conversations, only grammar! I've seen people write formal essays using worlds like ur and lol. That what pisses me off.

[Neve]

I don't think people would write that many more letters anyway if we removed the internet...I wouldn't even know the people on this forum if it weren't for the internet.

I think it's the people that're the problem. I always try and use correct grammar/spelling on forums...that way I don't muck up my ideas about grammar/spelling when I write letters or essays.

[Tenebrus]

IMO : quite the contrary. It's actually creating a totally new style and art of conversation. Letters are a bit romantic nowadays...it's just too much hasle (hope i got the word right) to write letters...and such.
Still i dislike the internet for taking up a lot of my time, but being a social being the human is compelled to socialise...and that's why we have IRC and ICQ and SKYPE and such. I don't think ppl stoped using plain old pen and paper, it's just a bit more inconvenient...
e-mails and chats are luxury...that's why ppl chose them...they are easy and fast...not to mention cheaper.
When you want to meet new ppl, you usually subscribe to a forum, where you know ppl will have simmilar interests like you, and you won't get discriminated for being gay for example.I'ts like CB. I subscribed to have friends with which to discuss bleach, cause most of my friends (well ok they are anime fans but not all of them) think anime is just like cartoons (ie Bugs Bunny and such). Otherwise how can you find such ppl, when it comes to consideration that my town is small and anime fans are not that much. There are no such things as cons...no meetings...we met over the IRC chat...so there...how can i find such ppl otherwise...
I think internet is really opening new doors for ppl. Again IMO. I still prefer eye-to-eye meetings...with my friends...but internet isn't killing anything...it's just normal...

[Ronin36]

i think that internet has not ruined converstational art, but enhanced it. If i were to write letters, it would only be to people i know very well. Right now im talking to people i dont know at all and most likely will never actually meet in real life. It opens up more opportunities to talk to more different people.

[Mercurius]

Yes I agree with ROninbecause without the internet We people would never be able to communicate with eachother and it is faster than writing lettes while it has the exact same meaning

[layla]

in a way it is, since i know ppl who start saying internet talk like it was their first language. internet talk like, lol, u, or even ppl, its makes the language lose its culture and original meaning. I know some people who type words that sound same but different meaning, and they claim they can spell correctly. I personally think internet is killing language's originality, but seriously, whos going to stop using it just because it harms culture and years of history?

[Sanzora]

If anything, its enhancing it! Now I can talk to many friends across the world everyday... before I'd have to wait months for a letter to be delivered, or pay a lot of money for a short phone call.

Horray for the net! :D

[Icchy <3]

If anything, its enhancing it! Now I can talk to many friends across the world everyday... before I'd have to wait months for a letter to be delivered, or pay a lot of money for a short phone call.
Horray for the net! :D

I totally agree with your post.
The internet has enabled the human race to be able to email and even chat (via MSN, AIM etc).

Now, if you wanted to email someone, you could do so and they rescive it in a matter of seconds, where with sending letters, phoning people etc could be slow and even more important, expensive.

[Neve]

I think by 'the art of conversation', Rohil really meant being able to write well (i.e. spell, use correct sp and grammar, high QWC), and I believe it is. It doesn't matter on the occasional basis, although I would personally rather do without, but when people start speaking whole sentances in abbreviations, simply because they can't be bothered to move their fingers a little more, it really is quite irritating.

[kaede822]

:musak:
yep..i think what he meant was the actual "art"...yeah, i think it is. although the internet already has its own style of conversing..the correct grammar, spelling is always taken for granted. and heck, the art of conversing is always about the grammar and spelling..so yeah, i could say the internet is killing it.

[Sora]

I totally disagree...

In fact internet, as some of you posted before is only another way to communicate... Perhaps you're true, nowadays people don't use to write letters handwriting, they use to use more and more the internet... To tell the truth, internet is as good as the old system... In fact, i'll say it's better coz there are less probabilities to your letter get lost... What's more, we can write as well as using a shit of paper and a pen, and do the same good letters. It's easier, fast and clean. You only need a computer and the net... That's all... So, the art of conversation is not getting killed by interned, it's being powered...

[h0f5]

The art of conversing from the start was to be able to talk to each other. The internet is not killing it. Applications like IRC, MSN, Skype, all make conversing with each other tons easier. If there were no internet, what do you do during the times when you cannot see your relatives/distant friends? Letters would be the only way. In this way, email is making it much easier.

[Ichi-Zoro 3]

If it's killing the art of conversation and blah blah... Then why was the e-mail created

[Joe Black]

The internet isn't necessary in order to communicate, but the internet serves as a nice convenience. Instead of writing a letter, sealing it in an envelope, going to the post office, and then waiting 2 weeks to get a reply letter, you can simply go onto any forum / chatroom, type away and get an answer in a matter of minutes (about the time to seal that envelope... :P)

It is because of the major convenience, we can interact with people we don't even know and start a meaningful conversation... an example being this thread. So in a way, we are learning how to express our ideas in a meaningful and orderly manner. The only bad thing is to get over the bad grammer and slang that comes from the interweb... LOL ,ROFL, ph43r teh nu generation of posting.

[M-50]

I totally disagree...
shit of paper and a pen,

Dude I think you spelt 'sheet' wrong. And no offence to you but I will use that as an example. People do not even spell properly on the internet anymore because of the 'texting language.'

If it's killing the art of conversation and blah blah... Then why was the e-mail created

It was created as an alternative to the inter office memo's. People decided to make it available to the public and there you have it. Electronic mail for all.

[MatsumotoRangiku]

No it means more can talk and plus it is still comunicateing if you online and chatting with others though some people do sometimes act bad some will act good and create a proper topic to chat with others.

[Elelith]

Some people (namely me) prefer to converse using MSN, sometimes. Because it gives you a chance to think about what you are going to say.

Sometimes I ramble on and on while trying to find the right word, or phrase something just right. At least online you have the lag time to work something out.

I love chatting on MSN. But I still TALK to people whenever I get the chance. So long as you still do both, it's cool.

[hitsugaya131]

i think that communicating and talking with the internet has its pros but there are more cons...

like it could cause kidnappings (i.e: myspace)
and its not as thoughtful as a letter

would u rather want a e-mail or a handwritten card that the person actually put more effort into?

i know that i would want a real handmade birhtday card rather than a bunch of typed words thats on e-mail that u can't hold (unless u print but thats beside the point)

[Elelith]

People have truly lost it, when they start actually saying LOL, LOL, when they laugh. Or shouting STFU at people instead of actually talking properly.

That's a problem I am painfully aware of.

[M-50]

People have truly lost it, when they start actually saying LOL, LOL, when they laugh. Or shouting STFU at people instead of actually talking properly.

That's a problem I am painfully aware of.
Exactly. Before when people wanted to say 'Laugh out Loud' they did. Now they dont. Now people are shortening nearly everything they say and that makes themhard to understand.
Also if we use more and more im's/email we will lose the art of handwriting. In America they already have a school where there are no pens (apart from math) nad everything is done on a laptop. Those kids unless they practise their handwriting outside of school will forget how to write properly. Then if they have to write a letter they will not be able to.

[Elelith]

That is really true. I have friends who can write about 300 times faster than me. Because I type too much! I really need to practice my writing more. Maybe it's not just the art of conversation that's being lost.......?

[Neve]

People have truly lost it, when they start actually saying LOL, LOL, when they laugh. Or shouting STFU at people instead of actually talking properly
So true. I hate L*L so much that I have sworn an oath never to use that shortening ever =D.

Still, I think that typing is much more useful than writing nowadays. Typing is almost invariably faster than writing and now that computers are used for basically everything, being a good typist is actually a more valuable skill than being able to handwrite fast, in my opinion. My handwriting is so terrible that I am allowed to type all my GCSEs - the result being that I can write loads more than everyone else =D.

[Elelith]

That should be allowed for many people. Because in exams, even if I write solidly for the whole 2 hours, ignoring the crippling writer's cramp I can still only manage 7 sides of A4, when all my friends have already asked for their second 9 page booklette. Surely some mistake!

[Arakida Ayano]

Aww, elelith! Sorry we all write so fast darling!

I think the internet is aiding communiction! I mean, come on, we can talk whenever, wherever now. However, being someone who loves calligraphy and delights in owning billions of fountain pens, I hope the letter never dies. I really love writing!

[Lyro]

Definitely a no. I don't know why people always think that internet chatrooms and e-mails are 'anti-conversation'. It is merely another form of communication. (Yeah surely a lot of people use meaningless short forms and phrases there) It is just another form, it's fine as long as you can speak out what you want to say.

[airswifter]

It slowly changing the life of human. It is much effective if you rank by the speed. It can aid human to communicate with people from other side of the world. However, it is unlikely anything will change from now. All form of communications are important to human civilization

[Elelith]

Aww, elelith! Sorry we all write so fast darling!

I think the internet is aiding communiction! I mean, come on, we can talk whenever, wherever now. However, being someone who loves calligraphy and delights in owning billions of fountain pens, I hope the letter never dies. I really love writing!

This is the girl I was talking about with the writing like greased lightning thing! Plus Taicho, I belive the topic was killing the art of 'conversation' not the art of communication.

We are regressing to cave man days, when people would comunicate with grunts and clicks, now people communicate with lol and rofl! People rarely TALK to each other anymore. No-one uses the phone to talk to people, it's all chat rooms and forums.

I am aware that I am now guilty of the height of hypocrisy, I know it's a ridiculous situation to be in, however it is killing the art of conversation because NOBODY ACTUALLY TALKS TO EACH OTHER ANY MORE! Gah and that really ticks me off.......... But I still intend to continue internetting around, I just don't really agree with it. Just TALK to each other more!

[Cassie]

In a sense, you can say that internet conversation itself is a form of the art of conversation. Much like writing letters, talking face to face, etc.. instant messenging conversation has its own style and form that probably would fascinate those who don't know about it.

Typing cannot be a part of this argument, for one can choose to type abbreviations like lol or rofl etc.. or one can choose to type onomatopoeias like haha, whoa, words that can show expressions. Also, if you like the old letter style of writing, you can choose to type that way, both in instant messenging or the email.

Blaming the internet for losing the older style of conversations is like saying that guns kill people. No, guns don't kill people, people do. The internet is a tool, and so is a gun or a knife or pretty much anything that's not alive that we use. If anything, it's not the internet that's kiling the art of conversation, it's the people who choose to go with the easier way and use it.

[Xintlaer]

Well... in my opinion the Internet kills the art... at least I can see that in people in my surroundings. It's simply easier to sit in front of the monitor, hide your face behhe binary code... and be anything you want. Yet, then you have a limited possibility of showing emotions, you can't show gestures... simply, you don't develop conversational skills...

[ashiin]

I don't think it's killing the art, it's making an entire new form of art.

The art of INT3RN3T C0nV3R54710|\|.

No really.

[KT Samurai]

In a sense, you can say that internet conversation itself is a form of the art of conversation. Much like writing letters, talking face to face, etc.. instant messenging conversation has its own style and form that probably would fascinate those who don't know about it.

Typing cannot be a part of this argument, for one can choose to type abbreviations like lol or rofl etc.. or one can choose to type onomatopoeias like haha, whoa, words that can show expressions. Also, if you like the old letter style of writing, you can choose to type that way, both in instant messenging or the email.

Blaming the internet for losing the older style of conversations is like saying that guns kill people. No, guns don't kill people, people do. The internet is a tool, and so is a gun or a knife or pretty much anything that's not alive that we use. If anything, it's not the internet that's kiling the art of conversation, it's the people who choose to go with the easier way and use it.

The truth right there.

Usin' the Internet is just another means of communication. I don't know if you've noticed, but we're all communicating right now, just doin' it in another format. The Internet doesn't kill the art communication, people who have a natural tendancy to avoid conversation kill conversation.

I do have concerns about how the Internet lets people communicate though. I'm almost 100% convinced that the Internet is murdering the English language at this moment in time. Look at half the posts in this thread and witness the raping and pillaging of our best method of communication outside actually speakin' to one another. Too many people use the letter U instead of writing the word you; too many people use acronyms not supported by any credible English reference; too many people don't use a goddamn comma correctly (or at least try).

I have no fear of the Internet killin' communication. What I fear is the Internet killin' English as we know it.

[chiking1]

I have no fear of the Internet killin' communication. What I fear is the Internet killin' English as we know it.

I don't think that it is killing English, but instead, the writing part of it. Almost everyone uses acronyms, however, when we speak, we still need to use proper talking skills because we can't shorten words when we are speaking.

[Miriam_Poland]

Well... in my opinion the Internet kills the art... at least I can see that in people in my surroundings. It's simply easier to sit in front of the monitor, hide your face behhe binary code... and be anything you want. Yet, then you have a limited possibility of showing emotions, you can't show gestures... simply, you don't develop conversational skills...
Yeah, You're right. But I think that the art of communication isn't dead yet. Lots of people shorten their pronouncement and spelling (I do it too, sometimes <sigh>) and they're reducing their words resources. Do you know that average teenager in USA uses only ca. 250-300 words? And the most common are: "uh!" "Yeah" "F***k"? Heh... sorry, if someone felt offended, but I think that at Club Bleach there are no ones like average teenagers :p You're writing quite a lot and interesting, so I don't want insult anybody :)
Finally, let's make a clue: I think that everyone, even if they're using only internet to communicate with other people, should gather more words, phrases, and remember them. It' important to understand other people, not searching ("wtf what means that or this word?") in dictionaries too much :) I understand that not everyone has been born in English language country (ex. I haven't) and they could not understand some words. But an idea is to improve our ways of speaking, listening to other people, and understanding them.

P.s. I'm sorry for my English, I know it isn't very good, Only for Hitsugaya131 and Xintlaer!!!I told You that was for Hitsugaya and Xintlaer! that was for you, Hitsugaya131. I'm sorry if I made you angry, but you're right. I know that my grammar and spelling aren't the best, becuse I'm still learning English. Although, my boyfriend noticed that I'm posting THAT phrase under all my long posts, so, then I'll just stop it, if it makes you angry. Sorry once again :D

[hitsugaya131]

I don't think that it is killing English, but instead, the writing part of it. Almost everyone uses acronyms, however, when we speak, we still need to use proper talking skills because we can't shorten words when we are speaking.

i totally agree...

many people talk to much on aim or online that their grammar sucks, they cant write a proper application form or anything...i mean i use acronyms and such but not in my writing..there's a ton of people who hand in formal essay with stuff like w/, b/c, w/out, etc...
it annoys me...
thats why a lot more people cant graduate anymore...
also, it makes you handwrite slower....which is important on sats and stuff...
im not saying the internets bad, but i think people should still continue to handmake cards and letters...

[Miriam_Poland]

Hey! Hitsugaya! look at post upper than yours and click a spoiler :D have fun and enjoy it :) You're right that people should continue to handmake cards and letters. I had it on my mind, too, but I've forgotten to write ^^'

[Daeruke]

I have to say this. Stop using acronyns everytime if you want to pass the SAT, and live a good life! Also, internet is the biggest source of foul language. A good conversation does not require foul language, infact using foul language makes a conversation very offending and make the person want to commit a murder. Nowadays, people don't even think of a good insult. They just use what every other people are using on the internet. So, internet is totally killing good conversations, and mild but hurtful insults.

[hitsugaya131]

im happy that people agree with me...
if you're gonna chat online, then atleast know when to use acronyns and when not to.

if so many people weren't managing their time with schoolwork and the internet incorrectly, and if people knew when to write acronyns and when not to, then maybe more seniors would graduate

[KT Samurai]

I don't think that it is killing English, but instead, the writing part of it. Almost everyone uses acronyms, however, when we speak, we still need to use proper talking skills because we can't shorten words when we are speaking.

This mess is a good example of my point: the Internet is killing the written language as we know it.

Commas? Why not? Just speckle them throughout the post in places where they don't need to be and hope no one really notices. I appreciate the effort, don't get me wrong, but you should really look up just how commas are used some time.

People use shorthand when they're speaking all the time, too. Acronyms pop up everywhere, and that's fine so long as they're necassary and everyone knows what it means. If I ever hear someone say the acronym IMO I will leap into the air and introduce their nose to my knee.

Nothing good can come of Internet speak. I don't want it assimilated into the English language but it's happening anyway. I'll cope, but I'll go down kicking and screaming.

[SmallKid57]

Laughing out loud KT Samurai.
P.S. that means lol.

anyways you would hate me. i use every single shortcut to getting my message across as possible on the internet. it still isn't affecting the way i write in school or write essays though, but i do agree it's killing the art of conversation now and writing letters.

[hitsugaya131]

....but i do agree it's killing the art of conversation now and writing letters.

yes....whateva happened to the personalized, handmade birthday cards with all the cool inside jokes...
nowadays i get typed up cards with a bunch of computer smileys and e-cards....

it hasnt affected my essay writing and such yet either...but for some people it definately has.

[SmallKid57]

lol yup. my friend had to fix his "grammer" one day because his english teacher wouldn't accept his essay because it was filled with internet shortcuts like "b/c for because, i for I, etc." he also forgot a lot of commas and apostrophes. so i do agree that internet is killing good grammer and common sense in writing.

lol i do hate those cards that people just print of their computers filled with black and white typing and smileys. put more feelings into it, people! i want hand drawn pictures of me!

[SLVR]

I dont agree just becuae talking to each other in typing or heaphones is that same thing as being face to face but without the facial expressions

[ashiin]

People have to learn the line between writing correctly and internet writing. All my friends use "shortcuts" on the internet all the time, yet when their told to write essays in school they write perfect english. The internet isn't killing anything, the person that decides to use shortcuts for an essay is.

[KT Samurai]

Yea ut has....how many people here mail letters ???

I haven't done that since my 8th grade english teacher made my class and I choose pen pals from Texas. They didn't know what ski-doos are!

Are you getting to a point about somethin'? Since you never wrote much at all I'll take a stab at what your point might be (because your writing it so suitably horrible that I'm forced to do so):

Why write correctly if no one writes letters anymore?

Is that right? If so, that is some flawed reasoning. But I'll let you respond before I pick it apart.

[Sarteck]

I haven't done that since my 8th grade english teacher made my class and I choose pen pals from Texas. They didn't know what ski-doos are!
Are you getting to a point about somethin'? Since you never wrote much at all I'll take a stab at what your point might be (because your writing it so suitably horrible that I'm forced to do so):
Why write correctly if no one writes letters anymore?
Is that right? If so, that is some flawed reasoning. But I'll let you respond before I pick it apart.
You'd better chill with the attitude, there--it's getting close to flaming. Your grammar isn't perfect either, buddy, first off, and secondly, I think you should wait until you know what he's talking about before you decide to actually "pick it apart." (Personally, I don't think that's what he was getting at, at all.)

Furthermore, your last few posts in this thread have been heckling people about their grammar. If you want to play grammar nazi, fine by me--do it someplace else. Don't troll here with it.

[KT Samurai]

You'd better chill with the attitude, there--it's getting close to flaming. Your grammar isn't perfect either, buddy, first off, and secondly, I think you should wait until you know what he's talking about before you decide to actually "pick it apart." (Personally, I don't think that's what he was getting at, at all.)

Furthermore, your last few posts in this thread have been heckling people about their grammar. If you want to play grammar nazi, fine by me--do it someplace else. Don't troll here with it.

Y'don't think that badgering people about their grammar in a thread about how the Internet might be killin' conversation as we know it is relevant? Sure thing. You're the mod.

And actually I wrote, "But I'll let you respond before I pick it apart." Since the dude neglected to make any coherent point I was forced to guess. There's some good discussion here, and I'd hate to see it all go to waste because someone can't share their ideas very well.

On a side note, never have I said my grammar was perfect. But I do make a point about writing as well as I can. That's not something I can say about a big portion of Internet users, who resort to an overuse of acronyms and made-up words that don't make any goddamn sense. I don't approve of it and I'm pretty sure this is the thread to do it in. It doesn't seem like that to you?

Whatever. Like I said, you're the mod.

[Sarteck]

Y'don't think that badgering people about their grammar in a thread about how the Internet might be killin' conversation as we know it is relevant? Sure thing. You're the mod.

And actually I wrote, "But I'll let you respond before I pick it apart." Since the dude neglected to make any coherent point I was forced to guess. There's some good discussion here, and I'd hate to see it all go to waste because someone can't share their ideas very well.

On a side note, never have I said my grammar was perfect. But I do make a point about writing as well as I can. That's not something I can say about a big portion of Internet users, who resort to an overuse of acronyms and made-up words that don't make any goddamn sense. I don't approve of it and I'm pretty sure this is the thread to do it in. It doesn't seem like that to you?

Whatever. Like I said, you're the mod.
I personally hate an overuse of acronyms, as well. We're in agreement on that. I'm telling you just to not be a dick to other people about it, here. You can discuss the debate, but don't make it personal. Heh.

Also, remember that many people speak/write English as a second language (or third, or fourth, etc.). Sometimes their written skills are not all that great. Sometimes we have younger users in here who don't have the best of grammar skills. Finally, even with those of us that don't really HAVE an excuse, we don't come to CB for an English lesson, we come to have fun. Heh.

"OMG, WTF, LOLz!?"

I really doubt that the person typing that will say (except in jest), "Oh-Em-Jee, Double-You-Tee-Eff, El-Oh-El-zee." I don't think it would hinder their conversational skills in the slightest.

[Chouji]

I dont think that conversation will ever end people need to see who they are talking to you cant just rely on your computer. People need others to comfort them in such so no the computer conversations arent destroying verbal in person ones because of how much they are needed.

[izza]

Hmm.. I guess it is sort of killing it but you can always expand the 'art of conversation' in so many other ways.
Even if we're not writing through letters or whatever we can become a bit more imaginative and create something with the use of the internet right?
It can expand the art of conversation instead of destroying it.

[Osoheil]

I think it is hurting it in some ways because of the very very poor quality of grammar that is often used. I am by no means perfect in this department but it just gets annoying sometimes.

I know there are many young users of forums and on many online games as well as those that do have use english as their first language. But arrg, I just will not dwelve into this any deeper in an effort to not tick anyone off.

[7D$]

Is it? More people using the internet to communicate now instead of writing letters. Is that killing the art of conversation? I think that it is to some extent as less people are writing letters and more peple are using the net to talk. :headbang:
Damn Rohil were at the same page here XD

i agree with him lol nothing to add

[freeedge369]

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Yes, dry humor and condecension amuse me.
It really depends on the definition of "conversation"
In the sense of a debate, yes. the point of a debate is that you have a split second to respond, and thus are stripped down to the core of our beliefs, where as the internet allows minutes, hours, or days to think.

[~black butterfly~]

actually, it does not...in my opinion....there are some people who can express better when they're writing or typing it down rather than talking...its just in their nature....and through internet, it gives them the opportunity to communicate to others through a medium that they can be good at...so in a sense, i dont think it is killing, in a way, it is helping....

[Ceres Legend]

Well internet is good, its great! I love to talk to my friends! I love tlaking on the phone too with my friends... but their are times when I dont use the internet, especially for really personal matters...

i prefer to hand write a letter to someone rather than an email. i think it expresses more emotion. Also, the art of writing a love letter can never be acomplished through the internet...I also think it takes our confidence to communicate since many people's online personalities are different than those they have in real life. It IS easier to talk online for the shy person, like myself...

A hand written letter has far more emotion that an email, that is without a doubt. Yes...it is killing the art of conversation but in a way it is also helping... I love my email writing and all but when I have a really close friend i write my letter, and I speak to them personally rather than on the internet.

Also, confessing to a guy you like through text is just plain sad ^.^ I think it doesnt even NEARLY aquire the same amount of courage as oppse to going to the the guy in person...lol

I hope i made sense..!^_^

[Evanesque]

I guess it is killing the art of conversation but at the same time it does have its benefits. For instance, short messages can simply be send over to a person in an instant instead of writing it in a letter-size paper, putting it in an envelope and walking all the way to the post office to get it delivered (ok I'm exaggerating)
However, with internet messaging usage on the rise, many tend to limit their vocabulary and use short forms on a regular basis which unfortunately become a habit for some...(eg. me...I have a bad habit of saying 'OMFG' instead of the whole line when talking to someone face to face :o )

Btw, I think you have to rephrase your question a bit so everyone can understand. You're basically stating that more people are using their keyboards to type letters and are sending them to someone over the internet and that less people use the old-fashioned way of penning down their letters in their handwriting, AND you want to know others' opinions on the subject, right?

[grieversangel]

I say that it is kinda killing it, but more so it's killing the art of expression. I mean I love you over the internet just doesn't mean a much as if someone were saying it to you face to face. Conversation sometimes means more to people if you talk to them in person. It shows that you have time for them and that you have time to spend with them. To me it means alot more to converse in person.