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05-12-2006, 11:12 PM
hey in japan we have this rumours that the akatsuki leader is yondaime!!!
he is dead but maybe he wasn't. well the episodes still haven't end yet so it could be him. and the akatsuki leader is also still unkown. anyway it's just a rumour, it could be true or not true.
waht do you guys think???

shadow_less
05-13-2006, 05:26 AM
I think SOOO!

05-13-2006, 05:33 AM
how do you know? are you from japan too?

SLVR
05-13-2006, 05:48 AM
Im dont think so. Everyone said he was dead. I mean who else was in the 3rd coffin Oro was trying to open? It was the 4th Hokage

05-13-2006, 06:00 AM
well yes but sandaime stopped it right? maybe the creator didn't make it as like "right just in time to block the last one" maybe it is the storyline, maybe the creator is showing sometihng else behind this. like yondaime as aktsuki leader. anwyay we believe that it is him.

SLVR
05-13-2006, 06:14 AM
Im confused by yer post. Well what I said almost 99.1% proves that yondamie is dead. It did say 4th right on the coffin

05-13-2006, 06:21 AM
how do you know?? he did summons it but sandaime stops it. tehre is the twist. sandaime stops it. so we don't really knwo if he is there or not. yes the fact that orochimaru can summon it. yes, maybe that's just the creators trick to trick us??

SLVR
05-13-2006, 06:25 AM
I dunno why Oro would even bother to do that when he could kill Sandamie him self. Go back and reread the chapters thier might be something you missed

05-13-2006, 06:33 AM
to make sandaime hate it maybe??? they are friends and normally friends don't fight friends.
it's just a twist maybe. anywa, akatsuki leader hasn't been revealed, it could be him.

SLVR
05-13-2006, 06:39 AM
But Oro did Edo Tensei So the friend thing went put the window

05-13-2006, 06:47 AM
what friend thing??? and what put in window??? the heck??

SLVR
05-13-2006, 07:07 AM
You said friends dont fight friends. But Oro did Edo Tensei So they had to fight

05-13-2006, 07:47 AM
yea they had to, otherwise he will die!!! what the heck??? anyway that's not the actual them. the real ones were dead already.

Shinji
05-13-2006, 09:24 AM
Yondaime is dead, period!
He's trapped in the Death God's stomach.

The leader is probably some new character we haven't seen before.

Lan
05-13-2006, 09:40 AM
hey in japan we have this rumours that the akatsuki leader is yondaime!!!
he is dead but maybe he wasn't. well the episodes still haven't end yet so it could be him. and the akatsuki leader is also still unkown. anyway it's just a rumour, it could be true or not true.
waht do you guys think???
This was a rumour all around
but its just a rumour
it was never mentioned by anyone really
it was just an idea of some naruto fans
Do u really thinks so?its justnot possible
its said hes dead
even if he wasnt wouldnt someone know-like sandaime or someone
and why would he wnt to be Akatsuki leader
he was always good, not bad
its just a rumour

Cheryl
05-13-2006, 10:12 AM
No way can Yondaime be the Akatsuki leader...hello, he's supposed to be this good guy who sacrificed himself for his village.

Draffut
05-13-2006, 01:10 PM
Im dont think so. Everyone said he was dead. I mean who else was in the 3rd coffin Oro was trying to open? It was the 4th Hokage

I personally think the 3rd coffin had the Sand Kazakage Orochimaru killed before the examines in it. In the anime it did say 4th on it. But in the manga, which i rely on more, it never showed what was on the coffin. i think this may have been a slip up on the animators side.

Also, they said after the fox was sealed, the ONLY thing they found was naruto. wouldn;t they have found Youdame's corpse is he had used to death god technique to seal it? Which is why i wont think he used that technique at all. He used a different one to seal the Kyuubi inside of the child, then fled to make it look liek he was consumed.

But this is just what I think..

Rabid_Wolverine
05-13-2006, 01:30 PM
Oh God not this rumour again. It's pretty much been proved false by every Naruto community around the net.

05-14-2006, 01:19 AM
well ok, because maybe they are not from japan. we here from japan believe that it is true, yes he did save the village, but it could be possible. why do akatsuki want naruto? because of his kyyubi power. once they got it, what are they gonna do with the power? must be something.
yes i know he is dead, but there is not a lot of info about him. only the first few minutes nad then they go when naruto is old.
maybe he came back alive? he is not really dead? you think no one check his grave. anyway this is a debate i think.lol
ok then, if the leader really is yondaime, then you should feel that you are lost.
we in jpn know more i guess.

Draffut
05-14-2006, 01:21 PM
Oh God not this rumour again. It's pretty much been proved false by every Naruto community around the net.

Firstly, i didn't say i belive it i how it will end, but it is very possible. Please show me where it has been proven false, becuase i havn;t seen a good arguement yet besides the #4 of the coffin, which never appeared in the manga.

05-15-2006, 08:16 AM
well as i said, it has not been proved wrong. it could be real, we don't htink it is possible that they have a new character. if they do, why did they hide it all this time??? why not show it at first?? there must be a twist behind all this. if it is yondaime, whoever says it's fake then you will feel wrong i think.

aaabbbxxx
05-15-2006, 08:57 AM
yeah baby! i want yondaime as bad as possible!

Cheryl
05-15-2006, 09:56 AM
well ok, because maybe they are not from japan. we here from japan believe that it is true, yes he did save the village, but it could be possible. why do akatsuki want naruto? because of his kyyubi power. once they got it, what are they gonna do with the power? must be something.

If Yondaime were really the Akatsuki leader, then he had all the chance to get the kyuubi's power while it was attacking the village, didn't he? He didn't have to seal the kyuubi inside Naruto.

chakra25
05-15-2006, 04:27 PM
Death God Jutsu used to seal the Kyuubi (fox demon) into Naruto OWNED Yondaime. Sandaime said it himself that the jutsu takes away the user's life. He's in the Death God's stomache as someone pointed out earlier.

Draffut
05-15-2006, 04:53 PM
If Yondaime were really the Akatsuki leader, then he had all the chance to get the kyuubi's power while it was attacking the village, didn't he? He didn't have to seal the kyuubi inside Naruto.

Most possibly becuase he didn;t want anyone to know his plans yet. So he put it in Naruto and went into hiding until he could.

If him and the Kyuubi just dissapeared without reasoning, people would get curious and be out looking for him constantly. and if he was trying to form Akatsuki, he had to be as secritive as possible about it.

I fail at life
05-15-2006, 05:03 PM
Akatsuki leaders = Yondaime is just one of the many stupid theories. Nearly everyone has been picked for Akatsuki including (but not limited to):Yondaime,Nidaime,Shodaime,statue at Vally of The End,Itachi,Kyuubi,Shino's dad,Akamaru,3rd MS user,Gaara...ect.

Just wait untill we see his face.

05-16-2006, 04:56 AM
well the other 2 hokage can't be the akatsuki leader because pretty much they weren't in the story. well they are but not that much, whereas yondaime is quite important.well yes the jutsu killed him, but probably there are still posiblities that he could still be alive.
why didn't he took the powers from beggining? well maybe he didn't think of that before.

MatsumotoRangiku
06-08-2006, 02:06 AM
This is the worst rummor I have hear first of all Yodaime died in battle when Naruto was a baby to sacrifice his life for Kohana and the battle against the third and Orchimaru was about to summon Youdaim but Saratobi stoped him so I doubt he is alive.

AznPoi
06-08-2006, 02:25 AM
Yodaime being the leader would be quite a plot twister.

Shinomori
06-08-2006, 03:59 AM
It's actually Duo Maxwell.

ZOMG CROSSOVER SERIES.

But it's not Yondaime, that's for sure. Probably some character they haven't introduced before. Although the shadow-thing and the pictures of Yondaime DO kinda look similar.

aaabbbxxx
06-08-2006, 08:22 AM
it might be yondaime's brother or someone else related. but if it is yondaime, then it'd be really nice

Draffut
06-08-2006, 01:59 PM
This is the worst rummor I have hear first of all Yodaime died in battle when Naruto was a baby to sacrifice his life for Kohana and the battle against the third and Orchimaru was about to summon Youdaim but Saratobi stoped him so I doubt he is alive.

A corpse of Yodaime was never found, so it is only assumed he was consumed by the deathgod technique.

And as i have said a few times, I think the third coffin he summoned had the Kazakage he killed in it. In the Manga, the front of the coffin was never shown, so we have no idea who was in it. (It said #4 in the Anime, but i dont get my facts from that.)

miso_ramen
06-08-2006, 02:20 PM
Interesting theory ^_^ But then again, why would Yondaime be become one of the "bad" guys?... I mean, Akatsuki like Itachi killed hte whole bunch of his family and so most of them probably did the same thing...
..... <gasp> Dig! Ding! Ding! Plot twister!
Well, Naruto looks like a little bit Yondaime and around where I came from, addicted Naruto-crazed people theorize Naruto is a reincarnation of Yondaime! Ehehe...
It would be nice if Yondaime did not die though...

Draffut
06-08-2006, 04:20 PM
Interesting theory ^_^ But then again, why would Yondaime be become one of the "bad" guys?... I mean, Akatsuki like Itachi killed hte whole bunch of his family and so most of them probably did the same thing...
..... <gasp> Dig! Ding! Ding! Plot twister!
Well, Naruto looks like a little bit Yondaime and around where I came from, addicted Naruto-crazed people theorize Naruto is a reincarnation of Yondaime! Ehehe...
It would be nice if Yondaime did not die though...

I have also heard the "reincarnation" theory. It's more like people think that when he used the technique it reverted his body into that of a child's.

Also somewhat plausible, but very farfetched and unlikely. Good for those Yondaime fan's though.

Lolable
06-08-2006, 04:25 PM
my guess the leader is the first guy who aquired mangekou sharingan

aaabbbxxx
06-08-2006, 05:08 PM
what's this?

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/2781/14mf.jpg
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/5636/22ue.jpg
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/981/31ur.jpg

now the only problem here is if the Kazekage of sand village is also the fourth successor because those 3 characters definitely mean 1, 2, and 4 if you translate them using babelfish

:headbang:

Draffut
06-08-2006, 07:18 PM
what's this?
now the only problem here is if the Kazekage of sand village is also the fourth successor because those 3 characters definitely mean 1, 2, and 4 if you translate them using babelfish
:headbang:

Since you seam incompitent of reading what i said.

IN THE MANGA IT NEVER SHOWED WHAT WAS ON THE THIRD COFFIN!

Please get me a pic of that with the #4 from the manga. Until you do, you are wrong. Dont take anything that happens in the Anime as true storyline.

Thank you and have a nice day. And if i did overlook it in the manga, then i stand corrected. But I have yet to see it.

Nyuu
06-08-2006, 07:37 PM
Correct you are...
http://theta.udbzn.com/~dbz/pictures/manga/chapter117/chapter117_19.jpg

Draffut
06-08-2006, 07:55 PM
thanks for the pic.

I am not sayign that he IS the Akatsuki leader. But the idea he may still be alive is very possible.

Nyuu
06-08-2006, 08:00 PM
no problem

even do i dount that he is. since he got killed for sealing Kyuubi in naruto, the jutsu name isnt on top of my head. and for him to be revived they have to use edo, tensei but he wount be the same person, just a fighting maskin. would understand it if some one in Akatsuki could use that jutsu and summoned him. but for some reason i feel that he is alive, dont know how, but it just does ^^

Draffut
06-08-2006, 08:28 PM
If what Sarutobi said is true, then he is wrong. The Death God jutsu doesn't seal things, it eats. Kyuubi was not eaten, therefor i doubt that it was the same technique that the 4th used to seal the Kyuubi.

Nyuu
06-08-2006, 08:43 PM
interesting, now that you say it. if it is true, why would Yodaime "risk" his life to seal him, and then dont return to konoha?

Quincy_Pride
06-09-2006, 11:47 PM
Atasuki has been around for a while, I don't think it is.

I always thought Naruto was the 4th reborn. They have the same hair and eye colour.

kebinxp
06-10-2006, 12:31 AM
yondaime is dead people
if he was the AL, then why did

he ask his akatsuki members in the manga how the jinchuriki for the kyuubi looked like? i don think yondaime would forget how the kid into which he put the kyuubi looked like -.-

bleachyboy
06-11-2006, 08:32 PM
like they say i american comic"theres dead,then there is DEAD!!!!!!!!".
not the best example,but you get the general idea.i can think of many woird and wacky explanations on the top of my head that desperately try to make sense(like maybe oro called a fake coffin of the fourth,so sarutobi would concentrate on that,allowing the first 2 hokages to appear)plus the whole kazekae thing.
for all we know,the anime producers mioght have been kicking themselves when they put 4th on the coffin,fearing they should not have,but going on their own wild assumptions at the time(as previously stated,trust pen and paper,rather then animation cells)
this is gonna go o until this person is revealed,so until then,all we have is wild speculation................now if you will excuse me,i have more mad and unusual no sense making theories to concoct.

Draffut
06-12-2006, 01:47 PM
yondaime is dead people
if he was the AL, then why did
he ask his akatsuki members in the manga how the jinchuriki for the kyuubi looked like? i don think yondaime would forget how the kid into which he put the kyuubi looked like -.-

No offense, but not everyone looks the same at 2 months old and 16 years. but this is a good point. not a completely solid one, but a good one. If Yondaime had sealed the Kyuubi in Naruto when he was very little, and left hte village, I am sure he would be curious how his son looks after all these years.

Also, If it is just some random bad-ass dude, that would be kinda boring. And if it was the 3rd MS user... that would be pretty boring also. Also, I cant think of anyone revealed ATM who is far enough above Itachi in power to be able to boss him around.

airswifter
06-13-2006, 11:22 AM
It is just plain wild imagination...there is no prove to it...
Just thinking...when he used the death god technique wouldnt the 9-tail fox be killed...and instead it is just being sealed...

Draffut
06-13-2006, 11:54 AM
there is no prove, there isn't any proof either, but it does make logical sense, and could very possibly be hte ending, or atleast parts of it.