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Schoulayer
04-12-2005, 03:56 PM
I posted this in the gun control forum but I think it deserves a separate thread.

I remember stories where a thief was trying to break into another man's house. He climbed on top of the roof, and part of it caved in. He fell through the roof and impaled himself on a statue. He died shortly after. The thief's family sued on his behalf and won some money from the family he was trying to burgle!

...and other stories such as people spilling hot coffee on themselves and suing for millions.

...or other stories in which victims of gun violence actually sue the manufacturers of the gun - rather than just the man who abused the weapon. (Which makes zero sense).

It seems like these lawsuits are becomming more plentiful. In the past few decades we've become a very litigious society. Lawsuits are becomming a substitute for common sense.

I had an idea one day. What if a judge could deem something frivolous, and in doing so force the person who started the lawsuit to pay for their opponents court fees. Say somebody goes to court and tries to sue somebody because in her dream her neighbors dog bites her. She attempts to sue her neighbors because their dog gave her emotional problems indirectly.

In that case the judge would not only throw the case out, but force her to compensate the defendants for their time and pay any legal fees they might have incurred.

I think something along those lines would be a strong enough deterrent to stop nearly all frivolous cases.

Naturally this has holes, a judge or (jury maybe) could deem something frivolous that really isn't. Thats where appeal process would come in. If its truely frivolous the next judge will find it to be frivolous aswell, and increase the fine for bringing it up twice. If it isn't frivolous the chances of several judges finding it frivolous are next to nill.

Also limits could be imposed on what a frivolous lawsuit is. A rape case, or murder case could never be declared frivolous... ect....

This has to stop.

Crimson_Stigmata
04-12-2005, 05:31 PM
You also forget that if someone trips and breaks a part of their body in front of your house they can sue you.

>_>" Everyone home owners dream, I'm sure. T_T

Lune
04-12-2005, 09:38 PM
We watched a video on it in my history class. Theres a case in New York where a couple decided to have sex in the subway, on the tracks . and when they got injured (sadly, they lived :whatevah: ) by a subway car, they had the nerve to sue the city, and said they need some kind of detection system as well...

W-T-F.

I personally hate the way are legal system is going these dayas, shows like judge judy are making the line between civil and criminal blur, and lawyers get away with horrendous claims these days. Jury's are sometimes a group of morons and judges seem to enjoy there large pay without actually paying attention to cases. Another thing that bothers me is the recent attack against journalists and free speech. People are starting to force journalists into the court and reveal confidental sources and many are getting away with ludicrois clams of mis representation in the paper.

Even though journalism is my major, i dont think im biased because if people are stupid enough to virtually destroy free speech like that, once its gone they will BEG to have it back. News without it because stagnant, false, and manipulated to the point of it being useless.

These frivolous lawsuits and frivilous claims are getting WAY out of hand, and someone needs to put a stop to it.

kinonai
04-13-2005, 01:14 AM
I completely agree. We are sucking away our freedom without knowing it, and soon the things that we take for granted will be gone. Then what? Well, either we have another civil war, a world war, or get pushed around because we have no freedom of speech. Wow, I knew we were going to be the cause of the world getting blown up >.>

Crimson_Stigmata
04-13-2005, 03:19 AM
We watched a video on it in my history class. Theres a case in New York where a couple decided to have sex in the subway, on the tracks . and when they got injured (sadly, they lived :whatevah: ) by a subway car, they had the nerve to sue the city, and said they need some kind of detection system as well...

W-T-F.

I personally hate the way are legal system is going these dayas, shows like judge judy are making the line between civil and criminal blur, and lawyers get away with horrendous claims these days. Jury's are sometimes a group of morons and judges seem to enjoy there large pay without actually paying attention to cases. Another thing that bothers me is the recent attack against journalists and free speech. People are starting to force journalists into the court and reveal confidental sources and many are getting away with ludicrois clams of mis representation in the paper.

Even though journalism is my major, i dont think im biased because if people are stupid enough to virtually destroy free speech like that, once its gone they will BEG to have it back. News without it because stagnant, false, and manipulated to the point of it being useless.

These frivolous lawsuits and frivilous claims are getting WAY out of hand, and someone needs to put a stop to it.

Dude! I totally heard about that...it makes you wonder where else do people have sex. >_>" I remember at my high school our principle caught two people having sex in the auditorium. <_<"

Well now adays you can get sued for almost practically anything. I mean my parents have been sued like 2 times already since we moved out to Cali >_>" of course they never ended up having to pay anything. ^-^"

Lovelydeath
04-13-2005, 07:52 PM
There is a more ridiculous case I have heard about.

A woman was in a tour store walking down the rows. She tripped over a small child who ran in front of her, suffering numerous injuries. She sued the store for not maintaining control of the children inside.

The kicker is, it was her own child and she won.

renfes
04-13-2005, 07:59 PM
Law suits like these really bug me. They are just a waste of peoples time and money. People need to stop "stretching" laws as far as they can go just to get some extra money and just take things at face value. If a person spills coffee on themselves it isn't the fault of the provider of the coffee is the stupid person who wasn't paying attention with the cup. Any problems that happen with guns can only be said to be the problem of the gun's owner or the person handling the gun at the time.

Crimson_Stigmata
04-13-2005, 10:15 PM
There is a more ridiculous case I have heard about.

A woman was in a tour store walking down the rows. She tripped over a small child who ran in front of her, suffering numerous injuries. She sued the store for not maintaining control of the children inside.

The kicker is, it was her own child and she won.

Woah you gotta be kidding? How much did that store have to pay?

Last time I checked I'm pretty sure stores aren't responsible for children, but okay?

OsirisX
04-13-2005, 11:04 PM
Ok heres a good one. There was a friendly protest. A woman got a little "troublesome". The police arrested her. As they put her in the car,a store owner brought out some fruit to the police. While they were driving to the station,one officer ate a banana. NOW she is trying to sue because he ate that banana,wait for it, IN FRONT OF HER. This country is just so messed up,its sad.

Crimson_Stigmata
04-13-2005, 11:49 PM
Ok heres a good one. There was a friendly protest. A woman got a little "troublesome". The police arrested her. As they put her in the car,a store owner brought out some fruit to the police. While they were driving to the station,one officer ate a banana. NOW she is trying to sue because he ate that banana,wait for it, IN FRONT OF HER. This country is just so messed up,its sad.

Where do you guys find stories like these? It's just boggles the mind, on what people will sue other people for.

Sahiden
04-14-2005, 01:08 PM
That's even impossible in Belgium...
If you want to sue someone here:
1) you pay a lot.
2) You never get a lot of money back.
3) You'll need to wait 3-8 years before the trial starts.
By the time you need to tell what's wrong you already forgot all about it...
And the chance you lose is big. The only thing you can win easily here is when an officer hits you.
As if you want to spend 8 years of your life on such a petty matter...

nighthawksw
04-14-2005, 08:12 PM
Meh, things've gotten way out of line. A great example of it all is how big the schiavo case became in the nation. There are people all over the place, lieing sick on their deathbeds, on the verge of dieing...and now an individual case is made a big deal because her family is fighting about what to do with her? Sounds like a screwed up family, and an unfortunate women who probably isn't aware of the majority of things going on around her anyhow. But what happens? the government got involved, the issue became a court issue, and it was the biggest story on the news. I find it pathetic >_>

Lovelydeath
04-15-2005, 01:54 AM
Meh, things've gotten way out of line. A great example of it all is how big the schiavo case became in the nation. There are people all over the place, lieing sick on their deathbeds, on the verge of dieing...and now an individual case is made a big deal because her family is fighting about what to do with her? Sounds like a screwed up family, and an unfortunate women who probably isn't aware of the majority of things going on around her anyhow. But what happens? the government got involved, the issue became a court issue, and it was the biggest story on the news. I find it pathetic >_>

We have all seen the negative side of the law, and I agree that it has crossed a line. I know I might get hated for this, but I'm studying to be an attorney. I'm tired of petty issues and all the deceit in the legal system, and not being able to protect myself because of a simple clause. I'm not doing it for the money, if that's even believable, but to protect students and teachers in schools and those who are injured where insurance companies refuse to pay. The legal system just needs to remember the reason it was established.

nighthawksw
04-15-2005, 05:07 AM
I'll bet ya they remember..they just would rather get money than live up to a moral code.

Crimson_Stigmata
04-15-2005, 05:14 AM
We have all seen the negative side of the law, and I agree that it has crossed a line. I know I might get hated for this, but I'm studying to be an attorney. I'm tired of petty issues and all the deceit in the legal system, and not being able to protect myself because of a simple clause. I'm not doing it for the money, if that's even believable, but to protect students and teachers in schools and those who are injured where insurance companies refuse to pay. The legal system just needs to remember the reason it was established.

Wow, I have a friend that shares your exact morals. Creepy man, but he tells me that he wants to major in Law and yet he doesn't want to practice it.

I laugh at him because I think it's a waste of time, but I think he will eventually have to give up that kind of thinking because he is gonna be dirt poor. >_<"

Lovelydeath
04-15-2005, 11:51 AM
Wow, I have a friend that shares your exact morals. Creepy man, but he tells me that he wants to major in Law and yet he doesn't want to practice it.

I laugh at him because I think it's a waste of time, but I think he will eventually have to give up that kind of thinking because he is gonna be dirt poor. >_<"

I finish my first year in about two weeks, and I still have no clue if I can make it as a lawyer, or manage to deal with all the deadlines and work. But it's still good to know Law, because then you can't get trapped by insurance companies or contracts.

Schoulayer
04-17-2005, 03:30 PM
I found a good site for this topic

http://www.overlawyered.com/

leafdeathstar19
04-17-2005, 03:48 PM
I think the goverment is very messed up!

Lovelydeath
04-18-2005, 12:52 AM
I think the goverment is very messed up!

I agree with that. All levels of the government need to shape up, involve smarter politicians, make better decisions, and complete the job that they were established for.

Kiechi
05-14-2005, 08:33 AM
You also forget that if someone trips and breaks a part of their body in front of your house they can sue you.

>_>" Everyone home owners dream, I'm sure. T_T

Really? Thats ridiculous.