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Hinatetsu
04-16-2005, 01:10 AM
I'm confused about what XenoSaga is supposed to be about. Is it any good? I've tried starting it last night but I was only able to get to the first save point and was so bored that I had to quit. Should I finish the game (does it get any better?).

Uzichida Cantameru
04-16-2005, 04:50 AM
if i think i know what your talking about it got a 2 out of 5 on tv and 5.5 out of 10 in mags.Is it like your this girl and you fight machine gun robots and stuff? also you can change suites and stuff. otherwise ignore me the stupid fool
*goes in corner*

Hinatetsu
04-16-2005, 04:54 AM
Heh, that sounds about right. The only reason I bought it was because when I went into the game store with my younger brother everyone was like, Xenosaga, buyyyyyyyyyyyyy it, it's the best game in the world, so I did. And now look, I'm bored. I can't even get 15 minutes into it! :P

Uzichida Cantameru
04-16-2005, 05:33 AM
yea is it like were the girl is in a all white robot costom and she has an all black one thats tight (sumhow)cause that games is stupid to me at least. if u want a good 1st/3rd shooter i recommend SW:battlefront, halo 2,half life 2 (they put 1.5 mil must be good to waste so much money)and metroid prime echoes. lol coverd x box ps2 pc and gamecube in that one sentence
Have any questions bout games to get ask me im a game freak to the max @_@

Hinatetsu
04-16-2005, 05:36 AM
Oh good! Do you know anything about FF8? I'm stuck in this stupid ship ...I've been like that for a year now, it's really getting on my nerves.

Uzichida Cantameru
04-16-2005, 05:47 AM
omg ff8 havent played that in so many yrs...hated it btw.to movieish. but yea if you can give me a bit more detail(dont remember it) ill load up my mem card..
If you have ff9 beat it under 24hrs to get excalibur2 the strongest weapon ever...lol

Hinatetsu
04-16-2005, 05:52 AM
How in the world do you manage to beat FF9 under 24 hours? It took me a week!

Uzichida Cantameru
04-16-2005, 06:04 AM
lets just say coffee beating the game 3 times b4, button smashing, and friends ^_^ we shared our data, we made bets to see who can beat it each area faster and we would then share the data.thats why friends are so good ^_^. at least i still think it was under 24 hrs(93% sure under 24).

Hinatetsu
04-16-2005, 06:18 AM
You know, I should try that. I beat the game 2 times already, I may be able to do it! That outta be interesting. ^^ So what is so special about this new item?

Uzichida Cantameru
04-16-2005, 06:45 AM
its the strongest in any ff series i believe.

Hinatetsu
04-16-2005, 06:54 AM
OOOO! Does it have any special skills? What damage can it do?

Uzichida Cantameru
04-16-2005, 06:56 AM
lol idk ill ask my friend thats in luv with ff9 (he worships it seriously) he like memorized all the stats. i think its fussed with lightning or sumtin.

Pipp-ORK
04-16-2005, 07:27 AM
What ship are you talking about in FF8, Hinatetsu? Is it the one with all those wierd-ass aliens on it?

And about Xenosaga, it DOES get better. I hate Shion, though. >__< And Allen. KOS-MOS is cool.The main story is pretty confusing, but it's good. BTW, did anyone here ever play Xenogears? Does anyone know if Shion has any relation to Citan/Shitan? O_O

Hinatetsu
04-16-2005, 07:44 AM
God, I can't even remember where I am in the game. Let me think...

Some place was bombed and there was a concert. I think I fought Raijin too...or someone. Or maybe I was going to fight him, I don't remember. I'm floating around in this ship/school looking for something, but I don't remember what.

Uzichida Cantameru
04-16-2005, 08:00 AM
helps real lots lol just busting on u.

outlawemblem
04-16-2005, 02:01 PM
hmm, just a question, did anyone play legend of legaia 2:duel saga ???
or the first legend of legaia

ZeroWind
04-16-2005, 03:37 PM
Wait r u guys talking about the one on the PS2. Cause if u are that game is good. It starts off a little slow but speeds up as u get Chaos and Jr. on your team. Jr. is an absolute beast when it comes to guns effin takin people out.

Pipp-ORK
04-16-2005, 05:00 PM
Jr. is one of the strongest characters in the game! chaos is my toughest, though. I think it's either his 'angel blow' or the 'heaven's wrath' that kicks ass. ^__^ I hate Shion. She's weak, too...Stupid Shion. >_< Hinatetsu, is the ship a big red thing that looks like a 'garden'? I think I have an idea of where you are..Anyway, I was stuck in this one place in 'Legend of Dragoon' for 5 years...Wow. When my friend told me what I had to do, I couldn't remember ANYTHING about the plot, or where I was, or what I was supposed to be doing. I had to start over, and I was on disc 4 too!! >_< (And Hinatetsu, if you forget what you have to do, try going to gamefaqs.com. That site is really helpful if you're stuck.)

Hinatetsu
04-16-2005, 07:07 PM
Yes! It's a ship that looks like a garden!

I'm stuck on Dragoon too. lol. I'm also on the fourth disk. I am in the machine town and keep changing the laws - but now I forgot what my goal was in the first place. I started Dragoon because I was stuck on FF8, then I got suck on Dragoon. How stupid is that?

ZeroWind
04-16-2005, 07:47 PM
"Legend of Dragoon" brings back memories. First battle system that I thought was much better than FF.

Uzichida Cantameru
04-16-2005, 08:00 PM
legend of dragoon? nvr heard of it *cries in corner* im picking up my new ff9 taday though, lost disc 1 T_T nother 15 bucks right down the toilet.

ZeroWind
04-16-2005, 08:06 PM
Its for the PS1 absolutely sick game.

Pipp-ORK
04-17-2005, 07:06 AM
Super HARD game, if I may. There are SO many plot changes, SO many hard bosses, SO much dialouge, SOOOOO confusing! (You're talking about LOD, right? O_O)

(Oh, and I have to find my FF8 disc before I can even remember what you have to do in that place..It's been so long..O_O )

Uzichida Cantameru
04-17-2005, 07:07 AM
yes we r... lol i still cant look at ur sig without a crack of a smile.

Pipp-ORK
04-18-2005, 04:35 AM
Speaking of funny stuff, are your sigs from that anime, something Daiho..or..something? O_O (That one with the shoe is funny!)

Crimson_Stigmata
04-18-2005, 11:53 PM
legend of dragoon? nvr heard of it *cries in corner* im picking up my new ff9 taday though, lost disc 1 T_T nother 15 bucks right down the toilet.

Legends of Dragoon is a great game. It's cool because there are combos or additions that deal extra damage if you do the specific move correctly. Plus u get to transform into a dragoon. Simlar to the Final Fantasy Dragoon Class. Except you get wings and you each character in the game has their own element.

Meh on the FFXI I played that game so much I lost count. I think I'm gonna start playing it again just for bragging right. ^-^"

If you really want a sick PSX game to play then I suggest Xenogears. Possibly the best game ever made by Square Soft.

Oh and aren't you guys a little off topic?

I play Xenosaga so many times too. I love that game to death. Episode II was okay, I thought it was really short though. Considering it was a 2 disk Game but that's just me.

Pipp-ORK
04-19-2005, 12:38 AM
'Xenogears' was AWESOME. ^__^ MUCH better than 'Final Fantasy VII'. (The sprite graphics aren't all that good by today's standards, but those anime clips are like..WOW.)

Crimson_Stigmata
04-19-2005, 04:43 PM
'Xenogears' was AWESOME. ^__^ MUCH better than 'Final Fantasy VII'. (The sprite graphics aren't all that good by today's standards, but those anime clips are like..WOW.)

I totally agree. Games aren't all about eye candy after all. For example FFX that game was okay, but I think it was mostly eye candy. It was totally so easy to beat, and very linear.

Pipp-ORK
04-20-2005, 10:35 PM
Yeah, FFX WAS a pretty short game if you think about it. Seriously, though, whoever thought up the plot for 'Xenogears', deserves a medal. ^__^ (I don't understand why so many Christians are offended by 'Xenogears' and 'Xenosaga'. It's only a GAME, and although it has MANY Bible implications, it's STILL a GAME...)

Crimson_Stigmata
04-20-2005, 10:49 PM
Yeah, FFX WAS a pretty short game if you think about it. Seriously, though, whoever thought up the plot for 'Xenogears', deserves a medal. ^__^ (I don't understand why so many Christians are offended by 'Xenogears' and 'Xenosaga'. It's only a GAME, and although it has MANY Bible implications, it's STILL a GAME...)

Yeah I know what you mean. I just totally ignore all the religious stuff when I was playing the game the first time. Now I just play it so I can find all the biblical stuff. ^-^"

CopyNinjaKakashi
04-20-2005, 11:13 PM
Well, if you think about it, most people take offense to things they don't fully understand. I've never played Xenogears, though I plan to after the Xenosaga Trilogy is complete (I think it's a trilogy, Xenogears takes place directly at the end of the Xenosaga trilogy)

I have yet to play Xenosaga II. Anyway, back to my topic, there are many philosophical aspects, as well as bibliogical references. Take one, for example, the Zohar emulators, the 13 names?? Ring a bell to anyone? Lol. If you really listened, they imply one of two things. Either Jesus Christ had a sister, or Jesus Christ himself had a daughter. This would piss a LOT of people off hahaha

AAAAAAAnyway, Xenosaga is a VERY plot-based RPG. The fighting style is pretty basic RPG stuff, physical attacks or magic (Ether). The only things really added, are 'techs', and 'A.G.W.S.', giant machines they pilot. AGWS are pretty much useless... I beat the game without using a single one. In fact, most of the time, they are useless against bosses, as they do petty damage compared to HI-speed attacks (play the game, you'll understand).

To be blunt, you watch most of the plot-unfold, rather than figure things out for yourself.



Legend of Dragoon!! My favorite RPG EVER. anyway, before i make the page like, super long, ill shutup ><

Pipp-ORK
04-20-2005, 11:59 PM
Legend of Dragoon kicked ass! How can you NOT like it?? O_O (Hard as it was..>_<)

Crimson_Stigmata
04-21-2005, 12:08 AM
Legend of Dragoon kicked ass! How can you NOT like it?? O_O (Hard as it was..>_<)

Who are u talking about? Who ever doesn't like Legends of Dragoon should be hung and burned in effigy in frong of their house. ^-^" I'll pay big money to see this, also would pay big money to see someone's grandmother get a clubing by the police. ^-^"

Pipp-ORK
04-21-2005, 03:58 AM
Hehehe...Grandma clubbing...Hehe..I'd love to see that. Have you ever played Big Rigs: Over The Road Racing? Best game ever. You HAVE to rent it! No physics system+other shitty crap=AWESOME!!!111!!OWN3D!

Crimson_Stigmata
04-21-2005, 06:07 AM
Hehehe...Grandma clubbing...Hehe..I'd love to see that. Have you ever played Big Rigs: Over The Road Racing? Best game ever. You HAVE to rent it! No physics system+other shitty crap=AWESOME!!!111!!OWN3D!

No I haven't played that game yet, but I'll be sure to keep my eye for it. When I go to Blockbuster this weekened. ^-^"

Aboroth
04-21-2005, 09:56 AM
Xenosaga is one of the best if not the best jrpg i ever played great game when u actualy should concentrate on the story arc and back in the days it was released the fightin system and the thing bout jumpin was something u dont see very on others jrgp that time ;x oh and i think the best Squaresoft game was Vagrant story one of the best fightin system i ever saw and the thingy with tones of armor/weapon combination in the so called forge .... hours of playing :>

Pipp-ORK
04-21-2005, 10:17 AM
Vagrant Story's battle system wasen't very fun, in my opinion. You pick a spot from the menu (i.e-head) and the character swings at it. I like battle systems where you get more freedom, like Tales Of Symphonia or SOS-Till The End Of Time. (Vagrant Story WAS a great game, though.)

Aboroth
04-21-2005, 10:32 AM
I liked that system maybe u didnt got too much freedom but with doing all those chains ;c it was a very diffrent from normal jrpg battle system when u only choose attk magic and things like this still as mention before Xenogears had a pretty cool system too ;x I had lots of fun by erm makin high chains :> and Vagrant story has a great atmosphere ;d and story line but thats normal in other jrpg so it was mostly diffrent only cos of Fightinin system and the dungeon explorin thingy oh and the so called riddles with boxes was kinda fun too ;d atleast for me

Crimson_Stigmata
04-21-2005, 04:46 PM
I liked that system maybe u didnt got too much freedom but with doing all those chains ;c it was a very diffrent from normal jrpg battle system when u only choose attk magic and things like this still as mention before Xenogears had a pretty cool system too ;x I had lots of fun by erm makin high chains :> and Vagrant story has a great atmosphere ;d and story line but thats normal in other jrpg so it was mostly diffrent only cos of Fightinin system and the dungeon explorin thingy oh and the so called riddles with boxes was kinda fun too ;d atleast for me

Vagrant story was nice. I totally loved playing that game too, because I got to make my own armor and weapons. There aren't many games where you actually get to do it. Plus I really like the gothic theme. ^-^"

I didn't care much for the battle system that much. THe most annoying thing was fighting ghost, because they totally like to teleport and sneak attack you all the time. I only wish I could have mastered chaining crossbow weapon skills or something >_<"

Chih1ro
04-21-2005, 04:52 PM
Xenosaga 1 was awesome. I had to play it twice to grasp the story though. I played Xenosaga 2 for a bit but I lost interest in all videogames around that time, so it's not really the game's fault. Vagrant Story was really good. The graphix and the gameplay was very advanced at the time for a Playstation game.

Crimson_Stigmata
04-21-2005, 04:59 PM
Xenosaga 1 was awesome. I had to play it twice to grasp the story though. I played Xenosaga 2 for a bit but I lost interest in all videogames around that time, so it's not really the game's fault. Vagrant Story was really good. The graphix and the gameplay was very advanced at the time for a Playstation game.

Yeah I totally know what you mean. I was totally struggling to try and finish Xenosaga II. It wasn't that the game was bad it just was that I totally lost interest in playing video games after awhile. That's what I get for pre ordering games. >_<"

And I never got my bonus disk for pre ordering Xenosaga Episode II. I'm still pissed off about that.

Pipp-ORK
04-24-2005, 07:09 PM
You didn't get the disc with all the FMVs on it? That sucks.. I once pre-ordered a Fire Emblem game, and I never got the game. I mean, I got the case and all, but there was no game in it...O_O

Hinatetsu
04-24-2005, 09:13 PM
At what point in the story does Xenosaga get interesting though? What genre would you put this game into?

Crimson_Stigmata
04-25-2005, 06:50 AM
At what point in the story does Xenosaga get interesting though? What genre would you put this game into?

Xenosaga is RPG: Role Playing Game.

Well....depends I thought it started to pick up when Kos-Mos wakes up by herself when the gnosis show up. >_>" But that's just me.

They also have Xenosaga the anime >_>" I think it follows the game pretty closely...1-12 I believe. So if you don't feel like playing the game you could always watch the anime. ^-^"

You didn't get the disc with all the FMVs on it? That sucks.. I once pre-ordered a Fire Emblem game, and I never got the game. I mean, I got the case and all, but there was no game in it...O_O

Yeah well I heard that the FMV dvd was low quality anyways..so meh. I could always just rip the FMV sequences myself but I don't really have the time to do that right now.

That really boggles my mind on how you just got the case and not the actual game? >_<"

Keiichi
04-25-2005, 07:48 PM
I've been thinking about getting Xenosaga for a long while now, but new games just keep poping up and I cant make up my mind about it. Some people love it, others hate it.

Pipp-ORK
04-26-2005, 05:28 PM
At what point in the story does Xenosaga get interesting though? What genre would you put this game into?
I'd say RPG..Action/Adventure..It gets REALLY good, so just don't quit it now..It really starts to get into the 'game' mode when KOS-MOS wakes up, and you meet the rest of your party. (Ziggy, MOMO, Jr. chaos..) I know that the beginning of this game is REALLY boring, but it'll improve, and you'll be glad that you bought it. :redbiggri

Xenosaga is RPG: Role Playing Game.

Well....depends I thought it started to pick up when Kos-Mos wakes up by herself when the gnosis show up. >_>" But that's just me.

They also have Xenosaga the anime >_>" I think it follows the game pretty closely...1-12 I believe. So if you don't feel like playing the game you could always watch the anime. ^-^"



Yeah well I heard that the FMV dvd was low quality anyways..so meh. I could always just rip the FMV sequences myself but I don't really have the time to do that right now.

That really boggles my mind on how you just got the case and not the actual game? >_<"
Yeah..It confuses me, too. I mean, the box was un-opened, and it was new. :eek13: It had the instruction manuel and everything, but no game...>__< Wierd...

Crimson_Stigmata
04-26-2005, 06:02 PM
I'd say RPG..Action/Adventure..It gets REALLY good, so just don't quit it now..It really starts to get into the 'game' mode when KOS-MOS wakes up, and you meet the rest of your party. (Ziggy, MOMO, Jr. chaos..) I know that the beginning of this game is REALLY boring, but it'll improve, and you'll be glad that you bought it. :redbiggri


Yeah..It confuses me, too. I mean, the box was un-opened, and it was new. :eek13: It had the instruction manuel and everything, but no game...>__< Wierd...

Did you at least go back to the store to get a new game?

Pipp-ORK
04-26-2005, 08:38 PM
Did you at least go back to the store to get a new game?
I sent it back (I had pre-ordered it) and they gave me another one. Actual game included, this time! :doindadom

Crimson_Stigmata
04-26-2005, 09:16 PM
I sent it back (I had pre-ordered it) and they gave me another one. Actual game included, this time! :doindadom

Well at least that's good to hear.

Anyways have you played Episode II yet?

I'm starting to regret paying 60+ dollars for episode II when I could have just gotten it for 40 dollars. >_>"

Pipp-ORK
04-28-2005, 12:12 AM
Well at least that's good to hear.

Anyways have you played Episode II yet?

I'm starting to regret paying 60+ dollars for episode II when I could have just gotten it for 40 dollars. >_>"
Nope. I haven't played episode II yet. No where to buy it around here, and Brews And Views dosen't have it on rent yet...I don't want to order it online, either. Mt credit card could use a little break right about now...;_;

Crimson_Stigmata
04-28-2005, 06:05 AM
Nope. I haven't played episode II yet. No where to buy it around here, and Brews And Views dosen't have it on rent yet...I don't want to order it online, either. Mt credit card could use a little break right about now...;_;

Credit card = evil >_<" What's the interest on yours?

leafdeathstar19
04-28-2005, 06:28 PM
The xenoseries is for the Playstation 2, right? I heard Great reviews on the game from my friend that own Ps2...I know this is far from the topic but anyways I was wondering if I should get a PS2 and what game should I get?

Crimson_Stigmata
04-28-2005, 06:40 PM
The xenoseries is for the Playstation 2, right? I heard Great reviews on the game from my friend that own Ps2...I know this is far from the topic but anyways I was wondering if I should get a PS2 and what game should I get?

Hummm....yeah get a PS2 and not sure but aren't they releasing a Bleach game for the PS2? Yeah so wait for that. ^-^"

Either that or get a PSP. ^-^"

Pipp-ORK
04-29-2005, 05:45 PM
(Gasp!) They're releasing a Bleach game for the PS2? Yay-ness! That menas that I don't have to buy a PSP, I'll just compensate with the PS2 game! O_O ^__^

Crimson_Stigmata
04-29-2005, 05:48 PM
(Gasp!) They're releasing a Bleach game for the PS2? Yay-ness! That menas that I don't have to buy a PSP, I'll just compensate with the PS2 game! O_O ^__^

I will buy both, just because I'm always bored at school. >_>" I want to try secretly plaing video games in class to see if I can get caught. Most of my classes have over 100+ seats, so lets see them try and catch me. ^-^"

Ghost Face Killah
05-05-2005, 03:12 AM
I am really hyped about Xenosaga III. The battle system is not the best. And the graphics may not be top notch (Well, some parts of the game do look beautifully detailed while others look plain). The thing about Xenosaga is that its ment to focus on Storyline (hence the long cut scenes). The storyline is so interesting, and the connections with Gears just keeps pouring in.

I read a web-site where they said Xenosaga Episode V will be a remake of Gears, while VI concludes the series. The information is probably made up. But I doubt it since most of the information on it was pretty accurate. They even posted two possible rumors of the next title for Xenosaga III. I forgot the link to the site, but if anyone cares I can try and google it up again.

The game is still pretty difficult. More difficult than the regular enemy's of Final Fantasy. As normal battles in Xenosaga Episode I and II can end up taking like 5-10mins due to required strategy and whatnot. I dont know why people bash Saga, its a pretty good challenging game. The storyline is top notch. And the cut scenes are just bad ass... Who doesn't like Albedo? Albedo has a crazier and better personality than Sephiroth.

Crimson_Stigmata
05-05-2005, 04:53 AM
I am really hyped about Xenosaga III. The battle system is not the best. And the graphics may not be top notch (Well, some parts of the game do look beautifully detailed while others look plain). The thing about Xenosaga is that its ment to focus on Storyline (hence the long cut scenes). The storyline is so interesting, and the connections with Gears just keeps pouring in.

I read a web-site where they said Xenosaga Episode V will be a remake of Gears, while VI concludes the series. The information is probably made up. But I doubt it since most of the information on it was pretty accurate. They even posted two possible rumors of the next title for Xenosaga III. I forgot the link to the site, but if anyone cares I can try and google it up again.

The game is still pretty difficult. More difficult than the regular enemy's of Final Fantasy. As normal battles in Xenosaga Episode I and II can end up taking like 5-10mins due to required strategy and whatnot. I dont know why people bash Saga, its a pretty good challenging game. The storyline is top notch. And the cut scenes are just bad ass... Who doesn't like Albedo? Albedo has a crazier and better personality than Sephiroth.


I totally have to agree with you. This game is really all about the story line, and less eye candy. I think the eye candy part is what people are just use to or have come to expect from video games now adays.

Game play is also a major factor in RPGs, and I like the battle system because it actually makes you think. You have to plan your moves so you can do the max amount of damage and end battles quickly. ^-^"

I doubt Xenosaga is going to make a remake of Xenogears though, because Square has copy right on Xenogears and I don't think they are looking to sell....>_>" I could be wrong...

As for Albedo being a crazier personality compared to Sephiroth...you might be on to something there. ^-^"

Albedo's hobbies include preying on young realian girls. Having his way with them and then killing them. ^-^"

Also enjoys long hysterical laughter. ^-^"

Ghost Face Killah
05-06-2005, 01:30 PM
I liked the scenes in Xenosaga II where Albedo is a kid and then he blows up his own head and whatnot. Its sad to see how he went to a hopeless little kid to someone so insane. My friend calls Albedo, Iori's cousin (Iori from King of Fighters).

Crimson_Stigmata
05-09-2005, 05:33 PM
I liked the scenes in Xenosaga II where Albedo is a kid and then he blows up his own head and whatnot. Its sad to see how he went to a hopeless little kid to someone so insane. My friend calls Albedo, Iori's cousin (Iori from King of Fighters).

Yeah I sort of feel sorry for him too....T_T"

Pipp-ORK
05-09-2005, 07:57 PM
Yeah..You HAVE to feel sympathic towards Albedo. 'Neways, I just rented Xenosaga Episode 2! ^__^ And it's teh good...@__@

But Xenogears is still better..O_O

And Sephiroth was a ****ing hard boss in FF7...>__< Jeebus, I had to cheat to beat him...

Crimson_Stigmata
05-09-2005, 10:54 PM
Yeah..You HAVE to feel sympathic towards Albedo. 'Neways, I just rented Xenosaga Episode 2! ^__^ And it's teh good...@__@

But Xenogears is still better..O_O

And Sephiroth was a ****ing hard boss in FF7...>__< Jeebus, I had to cheat to beat him...

You serious?

I thought he was easy.

Just do W-summon = 2X Summons in a row KORT

and then have everyone else Mimic. ^-^ Dead in no time.

ZeroWind
05-10-2005, 02:37 AM
Yup that's what I did and I murdered him.

Pipp-ORK
05-11-2005, 12:00 AM
I was a lv. 97, had omnislash, Warriors Of The Round (or whatever it was called) materia....And he beat the sh!t out of me. (I got to his 2nd form) He kept using this attack that got everyone down on 1 hp, then he got three more attacks in a row! >_< Not fair.. :P And I HATED FF7's ending..I was hoping that Tifa-the-***** would just up and die..

Crimson_Stigmata
05-12-2005, 05:10 PM
That's cause you suck. You even sucked at Midnight Club! The EASIEST game ever. Yeah Sep. was really eay to beat it took me around 5 or 6 mins. (And I like your avatar Crimson Stigmata.)

And Tifa was hot so don't diss her or I'll take your UNMETIONABLES and bring 'em to school with me. Nyah. Yeah, shit happens. ^__^

Thanks ^-^" I like your avatar too.

And yeah the ending was kind of weird but it was meant to be that way...I think it's because they wanted to leave room for a squel or something...which they are doing but in an OVA ( Movie ). FFVII Advent Children for the people that have been living under a rock for the past 2 years or so...>_<"

Pipp-ORK
05-12-2005, 05:24 PM
Can't wait until Advent Children comes out. ^-^ A Blood Rayne movie is supposed to be coming soon, too, but people are saying that it's going to be crap..-_-"

Crimson_Stigmata
05-12-2005, 05:41 PM
Can't wait until Advent Children comes out. ^-^ A Blood Rayne movie is supposed to be coming soon, too, but people are saying that it's going to be crap..-_-"

My wallpaper is of Tifa from FFVII: AC ^-^" I'll post it when I get home.

Z_Blitz
01-06-2007, 08:32 AM
After a year and a half of being buried under the thousands of threads on this forum, I, Z_blitz, have successfully revived this thread from the hollow abyss >_>.

*cough* Yeah, cheesy intro =p.

Alright Xenosaga fans, watcha all think of the last installment? Xenosaga III.

Here's some stuff I found interesting in the game.

- Abel knows Nephilim pretty well (makes you think of Fei and Elly from Xenogears).
- You get to fight omega universitas as a boss in the game. If you look closely at the character design of that AMWS/AGWS you'll realize it resembles Weltall from Xenogears... A lot! Further more, when you fight it again (optional by the way), it'll transform to Omega ID, which again resembles Red Weltall (Id's gear from Xenogears).
- The minigame sucks >_>.
- Battle system got worse in my opinion. I like both the I and II's battle system, (I for the flashy techniques and II for the amount of planning that needs to be done in order to beat a hard boss; break, down, air, elemental combos... etc). It became very orthodox. Attack, skill, magic, special, items =/. The ES battle menu though is interesting :).
- Erde Kaiser sigma is a losing battle UNLESS your characters are like Godly, and you have 6 full boost gauges.
- Ziggurat is no longer as slow as he was in all the previous Xenosaga games.
- KOSMOS still lives up to her reputation of being the slowest ever.
- Shion got more useless and her role in the story makes me feel like I want to shoot her.
- Allen, Miyuki and Canaan are beyond hopeless in a battle.
- Break gauge is a nice touch to the battle system, though they should've included a spell that'd cure some of your break from all your allies instead of keeping it at solo. (i.e. if suppose chaos, Jin and Ziggurat are in a battle and all of them are close to filling their break gauges, you're going to have to either heal each one individually or change the characters =/).
- chaos finally lifts off the veil from his history. Though thats only towards the end =p.

All in all, its a good game. The plot makes up for the not-so-innovative-as-before battle system so it's all cool ;).

♥ Tess
01-12-2007, 05:21 PM
xenosaga is one of my favorite games.
though i think you should play xenogears first.

xenogears > some FF games

Ren Höek
01-12-2007, 05:44 PM
- Abel knows Nephilim pretty well (makes you think of Fei and Elly from Xenogears).
i know it does

- You get to fight omega universitas as a boss in the game. If you look closely at the character design of that AMWS/AGWS you'll realize it resembles Weltall from Xenogears... A lot! Further more, when you fight it again (optional by the way), it'll transform to Omega ID, which again resembles Red Weltall (Id's gear from Xenogears).
that battle with Omega ID sucked it had HP of 999,999

- The minigame sucks >_>.
they said it was "supposed" to be hard but it was to easy


- Allen, Miyuki and Canaan are beyond hopeless in a battle.
they tried to make Allen look tough now but his weapon hardly did any damage at all

the swimsuits are back in this game and Ziggy's looks horrible it doesn't look like the one from Xenosaga II

Sweeney
01-19-2007, 04:00 AM
xenosaga is one of my favorite games.
though i think you should play xenogears first.

xenogears > some FF games
This is correct. Xenogears > Most PS1 RPG's

BrokenImage
01-20-2007, 01:09 AM
Xenosaga is pretty good, it has a solid and entertaining storyline... but the gameplay is what gets me bored. But then if thats the case for you too be sure to know that there is as many cutscenes in these as there is metal gear solid 2 (Meaning alot more watching than playing.) Other than that it isnt too bad, the cutscenes can be amazing along with the graphic detail. If you like a good story this is the game for you.

Z_Blitz
01-20-2007, 09:11 PM
I think that only applies to the first game BrokenImage =p. The second and third game involve a lot less watching and more gaming =p.

Yep shin ;). I played Xenogears long before playing Xenosaga :). There have been rumours that Xenogears was going to be re-made as Xenosaga's 5th sequel. That though is not happening given that the game has already ended at its 2nd sequel, i.e. 3rd game in the series. In the first two games the game developers denied the fact that both Xenogears and Xenosaga were interrelated, the most recent installment though proves otherwise with the appearance of characters and objects that you'd only be able to recognize if you played Xenogears =p.

Z_Blitz
05-06-2007, 09:37 AM
The second and third episodes were utter trash though, because a few of monolith's best people left after the first one, including the plot director and the composer.

I didn't think that the second and third episode's music were "trash" as you put it really. I barely even noticed the difference, besides, Yuki Kajiura (composer of the 2nd and 3rd games' OST) is a brilliant composer. If anything I thought the OST just got better. Like FullMetalRebel said, try listening to Godsibb from Xenosaga III and Chase from Xenosaga II. Both wonderful tracks in my opinion :).

It's like what I pointed out earlier in one of my posts here in this thread. The game's battle system in got worst as time passed, but that doesn't mean it was bad. The second battle system was innovative to say the least, the third was too normal and had nothing special in it which kinda ticked me off. The graphics in the 2nd game were a MAJOR disappointment though. The plot in the 3rd was clearly rushed but still retained it's potential as one of the greatest RPG plots of all time.

TargaryenX
05-06-2007, 03:53 PM
Well, I may be a bit biased, since I was expecting them to be as good as Xenogears. Since the first one already sort of disappointed me in that respect (although it was still a great game in its own right), the 2nd and 3rd ones just made me angry.

FullMetal Rebel
05-06-2007, 06:30 PM
One huge problem i had was with the final boss should have been Willhelm since Chaos needed his battle.Since Ziggy got to fight the Black testament,Jin fought margulis,and Jr. fought his dad.Jr gets way too much spotlight in xenosaga.

hitsugaya07
05-10-2007, 09:16 PM
I really wanted to finish this game... but I'm having a hard time finishing it... In Xenosaga, the first one, I'm stucked where they need to overcome their fear... the boss sucks! it's really hard... T_T
Chaos is really cool! He's strong and I like his abilities...^^

Lind Ni Britannia
06-06-2007, 09:29 PM
you mean Tiamat? that boss really sucks. but I forgot how i beat him, it's been years.

i love the Xenosaga series. too bad they ended it at Episode III...i wonder why the staff kept changing.

FullMetal Rebel
06-10-2007, 12:35 AM
you mean Tiamat? that boss really sucks. but I forgot how i beat him, it's been years.

i love the Xenosaga series. too bad they ended it at Episode III...i wonder why the staff kept changing.



The staff changed on the development of ep.2,but they didn't know what the hell they were doing.(but im not complaining since ep.2 was a battle between my two favorite characters)and because that game bombed,the series got shortened to 3 eps.The staff from ep.2 were kicked to the curb,and the the development of ep.3 was done with a new staff with some people from the ep.1 development team.

So basically you can thank the ep.2 development team for killing the series which was suppose to be6 eps,not 3.You can thank them for fighting Zarathustra instead of Willhelm.(I still can't belive Albedo got like 2 or 3 damn cutscenes in Xenosaga 3,compared to the tons he got in the other 2).You can thank them for characters not getting as much development as they could have in 6 eps.

Lind Ni Britannia
06-10-2007, 08:00 PM
yeah, but mostly it was also Monolith Soft's fault. this is a great game with lots of potential, but they didn't really pay much attention to it. they didn't care whether the staff left, and they themselves told Soraya Saga(original writer of the story) that they wouldn't ask for her services anymore. >_>

look at Monolith now, Namco sold them off to Nintendo.

Freya69
07-05-2007, 01:20 AM
xenosaga's a good game series. it is confusing at first, but u get used to it the game gets better. i wished they made a fourth xenosaga like how they're making a fourth star ocean game.

Lind Ni Britannia
07-12-2007, 11:33 AM
i remember reading through the entire in-game encyclopedia thingy. it took me longer than the game itself XD

Akiha
06-21-2008, 06:16 AM
Lol bump.

I actually picked up Episode I a while ago, though I have yet to finish it. I'm at the part where I fight Albedo in his AGWS. Or well, just before that part.

And no offense to Blitz (I heard you like chaos), chaos is my least favorite character, right behind Ziggy. He's annoying in my opinion.

I like KOS-MOS the most, but who doesn't? Her bad-assery is through the roof.

Next would either be Shion or MOMO, probably the latter.

The only thing is that the producers could've worked on the animations a bit, honestly, but I won't complain much.

Ah, AGWS. I wish I had some of those. Seriously. Though the weapons leave something to be yearned...

/rant

FullMetal Rebel
06-21-2008, 06:34 AM
If you love the AGWS(or hate their mediocrity) play Xenogears. Even though there are E.S. robots in the other two games Xenogears is the definitive robot experience.

I happen to like everyone in Xenosaga, except Jin. He is a horrible Citan ripoff(character from Xenogears)

Akiha
06-22-2008, 04:32 AM
I don't think I've encountered Jin yet.

I have played a demo of Xenogears before it came out, and it was amazing. But I could never find a copy of the actual game when I had the money for it..

Gray Fox
06-22-2008, 06:18 AM
I was able to find a used copy of Xenogears a few years ago at a local EB for about 20$, it was in near mint condition and it even still had the white label on it o_O

Although I've never played Xenosaga >_>

Ren Höek
06-22-2008, 06:49 AM
i have both JP an US versions of xenogears

i've also got Perfect Works, the xenogears artbook/bible