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hitsugaya131
06-18-2006, 01:48 PM
im trying to revive the old naruto thread cuz its my favorite manga series alongside bleach

is anyone up to date with the recent chapters... around 311

does anyone have any idea what they think naruto's "that jutsu" and sasuke's "that jutsu" was

for naruto i think that it will be something w/ the fourth, but not the yellow flash move, cuz the kyuubi's pwr was already shown on the bridge versus oro and kabuto and it can't be the yellow flash move cuz jiraiya has not mentioned knowing it so he cant teach naruto

hope this thread works

any comments

airswifter
06-18-2006, 02:01 PM
I think it means the jutsu that is taught by Orochimaru. He can summon serpent i think!!

gohanssj56
06-18-2006, 03:47 PM
naruto chapter 311 high quality.
http://rapidshare.de/files/23151236/311mqtrans.zip.html

hitsugaya131
06-18-2006, 06:18 PM
i think that it might have been a snake summoning for sasuke too cuz he raised his left hand so maybe there was a tatoo on his arm to summon

but he did make a tiger jutsu sign which usually refers to katon (fire) jutsu

also, at first i hated sai but he was pretty cool last chapter with his nicknames thing for sakura

Caesar
06-18-2006, 06:30 PM
yeah i was thinking of making this thread too. when i saw this chapter i went crazy.. but i was disappointed that within 2.5 years naruto was still a noob that had to rely to kyuby's chakra..

Insight
06-18-2006, 06:48 PM
yeah i was thinking of making this thread too. when i saw this chapter i went crazy.. but i was disappointed that within 2.5 years naruto was still a noob that had to rely to kyuby's chakra..

yeah but in chapter 308 naruto decides that he dosn't want to use the kyuubi's chakra anymore and wants to fight by himself although i was dissapointed with how much naruto had grown but still the kyuubi fights are pretty cool.
what does every1 think of sai who is basically an exact rip off of sasuke.

Caesar
06-18-2006, 06:51 PM
yeah he is a bit.. haha.. we will see him later.. i think its too soon to make conclusions out of him.
and fredomshouldbefree before naruto left for the mission Jiraya told naruto not to use that justu.. was it the kyubi? cause when he said that i assumed that naruto had gotten a million time stronger.. but he was still a noob.

AznPoi
06-18-2006, 07:15 PM
Maybe the "jutsu" has something to do with the fact that Sasuke was able to go into Naruto's mind and suppress Kyuubi.

Caesar
06-18-2006, 07:28 PM
i dont think its got to do with that thing.. there wasnt used any jutsu over there.. sharingan did all the work..

hitsugaya131
06-18-2006, 08:15 PM
agree with Ka1s3r_x, sasuke's sharingan was the only thing that was doing the work
sasuke didn't even enter the mind cuz he was too busy with yamato

im kinda disappointed in naruto cuz he didn't really show a great improvement after the 2.5 skip all i really saw was a little more thinking and the new rasengan

also, during the encounter with sasuke

i wanted to see more of his learning with oro after not being in the manga for a while

basically the same with naruto with a new chidori

but faster speed!

Katen Kyoukotsu
06-18-2006, 09:19 PM
i really was expecting Naruto to come back with a bunch of new jutsu's, but yeah like you guys said it was a complete disappointment that he hadnt really changed at all.

Now 311 brought up some questions. Im wonderin what training kakashi's going to put naruto through thats supposedly going to make him stronger than kakashi........and i want to see naruto do the chunnin exam again lol.

Cousinit1686
06-20-2006, 01:12 AM
i really was expecting Naruto to come back with a bunch of new jutsu's, but yeah like you guys said it was a complete disappointment that he hadnt really changed at all.


I was hoping for the same, but I knew it wouldn't come true.

And didn't he have to use a kage bunshin to use his rasengan?

If it wasn't for Kakashi's sharingan, Naruto would already be stronger than him :P

SLVR
06-20-2006, 02:08 AM
I dont think Sasuke would you a summoning jutsu just kill Naruto when he could have fone it with his sword maybe some extracting life force or what ever.

Draffut
06-20-2006, 12:08 PM
is anyone up to date with the recent chapters... around 311
does anyone have any idea what they think naruto's "that jutsu" and sasuke's "that jutsu" was

I think Naruto's "that" move was something yet seen in the series. some sort of very powerful offensive technique, that is detrimental ot the user.

I think Sasuke's is Ameretsu. I am willing to bet Orochimaru has seen it used by Itachi, and taught Sasuke how to use it, sicne he can't himself without Sharingan.

Kakashi's move he will teach Naruto is the 4th Teleportation move. Kakashi has seen it done, but cant use it even with Sharingan. I think naruto can use it which is why it is "training only he can do"

what does every1 think of sai who is basically an exact rip off of sasuke.

I think he is a great char, who only Sasuke fanboys/girls have an issue with.

Naruto's growth isn't as bad as you all make it out to be. You forget his 2 pointswhere he had a chance to shine were againts Orochimaru and Sasuke. Against Orochimaru he went KN4, and probobly would have killed Oro had he not fled, and Yamoto not got involved. and then by the time he got to Sasuke he had no Chakra left to do anything. not his fault, he just fought Orochimaru.

from what we have seen:

Naruto: Sasuke:
New Rasengan New Chidori
New "That jutsu" New "That Jutsu"
New Kyuubi Faster

From what i have witnesed atleast, they have grown about the same. And Kishi is right now just trying to flaunt Sasuke, as it is his favorite char. dont sweat it so much.

dash142
06-20-2006, 04:55 PM
Who is Sai? I just started watching naruto again on saturday. Started with the Sauke vs Gaara episode. I'm up to 116-117 special now. I've seen some of the later episodes though, like Kyuubi Naruto vs Sasuke with lv2 curse seal.

Draffut
06-20-2006, 05:01 PM
Sai is a Manga char. He has yet to be in the anime.

hitsugaya131
06-20-2006, 07:07 PM
sai isnt in any of the episodes yet
hence the title of the thread, Naruto MANGA spoilers

spoilers











sai is the replacement for sasuke on team 7 since sasuke left to go to orochimaru for power he is part of the ANBU roots

he went on the mission with yamato (ANBU Captain temporally replacing Kakashi because Kakashi is in the hospital resting), Naruto and Sakura

their mission was to recieve information about oro and sasuke from the atasuki spy, Kabuto. they tried to bring back sasuke but he pwned them and fled

his mission from danzou though was to kill sasuke, but didn't for the bonds between him and naruto

now he is the permant replacement for sasuke in team kakashi

there you go. ^_^

Cheryl
06-20-2006, 07:08 PM
Sai's a character from the manga! XD Won't spoil anything else about him for you then...

SLVR
06-20-2006, 07:45 PM
I think it would be so retarded for Sasuke to use a MS technique without the MS, It judto dun make no sence. But We do know Itachi is stronger than Oro and Sasuke combined still.

Draffut
06-20-2006, 07:50 PM
Where did it say that it was a MS technique? Only MS technique i saw was the Moon God one. Just cause Itachi can cast it doesn't mean it requires MS.

SLVR
06-20-2006, 07:59 PM
The databook says it part of MS. Wikipedia and just about everyone esle uses the databooks by kishimoto as thier source of info.

hitsugaya131
06-20-2006, 11:35 PM
are you talking about amaestro.
thats the one with ms and tsyokoumi is the 3 colma sharingan genjutsu move right?

i wonder what their next mission will be
they probably wont go out for a while cuz of naruto/kyuubi and atasuki
i think that the atasuki or oro may envade or something to start the next fighting arc

SLVR
06-21-2006, 12:19 AM
are you talking about amaestro. thats the one with ms and tsyokoumi is the 3 colma sharingan genjutsu move right? i wonder what their next mission will be they probably wont go out for a while cuz of naruto/kyuubi and atasuki i think that the atasuki or oro may envade or something to start the next fighting arcYes we are talking bout amaterasu.

Go here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharingan) and look at Itachi's Sharingan part. This info comes from the data book so it cant be wrong

Anil
06-22-2006, 01:45 PM
For those of you keeping up....

312 is out.

It is GOOD.

Go get it.

Caesar
06-22-2006, 02:31 PM
still raw =(

Anil
06-22-2006, 02:44 PM
still raw =(

Check mangahelpers... there is a scanalation out already

Draffut
06-22-2006, 03:12 PM
Yes we are talking bout amaterasu.
Go here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharingan) and look at Itachi's Sharingan part. This info comes from the data book so it cant be wrong

I dont trust Wikipedia in the slightest. any jamoke can go change that at any time. Hell, i could make it say "Slvr has a P**** for a head" right now. No real reason to, but you get my point. It can be changed and adjusted any way for anytihng. please get me a direct databook rip.

hitsugaya131
06-22-2006, 04:10 PM
here's a link to chapter 312 translation:
http://mangahelpers.com/forum/index.php?topic=5100.0

and here's the RAW
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=4AA3736861203468

hope u enjoy
any comments on the new chap

a new Jinchuuriki and two new atasuki members...
i knew atasuki was going to come in soon i was kinda upset they didn't show naruto's training. but i thought that showing the genin, which haven't seen in a while was nice...i think sai is getting better as a character as well. any predictions

Cheryl
06-22-2006, 04:27 PM
Kakuzu's the straight-haired Akatsuki guy, right? o.O Kinda confused, lol. Anyway, that straight-haired guy looks like OMG DRACO MALFOY. Anyone agree here? XD

hitsugaya131
06-22-2006, 05:57 PM
about 312

that guy does look like draco malfoy. hes kinda cute. also the other guy has like white pupils he looks suspicous. one from the waterfall village and one from the mist. maybe the mist guy knows/has a relationship with kisame. also, at first the girl looked like kabuto with long hair.... chouji really looks like his dad...

any next chapter, 313 ideas:

do ya think i should start a naruto manga discussion and naruto manga predictions thread here like on naruto forums
i think it would be helpful

monkeylo1
06-22-2006, 06:57 PM
In this chapter they showed asuma's team
but they didn't show kurenai's: shino, hinata, and kiba
i think that they'll be in the next chap.

Draffut
06-22-2006, 07:47 PM
The Female Jinchu has Sai's same taste in clothes. I like it.

Hopefully the last member of Akatsuki is Female, we need atleast one female Bad-Ass, Tsunade doesn't count.

hitsugaya131
06-22-2006, 07:55 PM
true, draffut,
he did look like sai with his belly-shirt but i still think that she looked like kabuto with the hair

also, this jirruniki(spelling?) may be a really strong female too
if im thinking about the way naruto improves
if shes the same, shes got potential

so what do u guys think about that new thread
also thx for your posts so this thread can stay active...:biggrinki

Anil
06-22-2006, 10:52 PM
I think this one is fine. it already has the title "Naruto Manga".

This isn't a Naruto forum. If you make duplicate Naruto threads you will likely get warned.

Any Naruto manga discussion can take place in this thread.

hitsugaya131
06-22-2006, 10:55 PM
thx ill do that

any predictions:

i hope that we see some more of the sound, oro and sasuke soon

or maybe what the two new atasuki members can do
i doubt that they're anywhere near itachi's lv

Quincy_Pride
06-22-2006, 11:03 PM
It's going to be pretty boring if there's no more Kakashi. I mean if Naruto is going to surpass him, then Kakashi may just become a very minor player. But he's been absent for ages and it's annoying that the best ones always don't appear that much and I know it's about Naruto, but COME ON!

I thought he would have healed by now considering it usually takes a week for him to recover and they were supposed to meet Sasuke in 10 days. That means he should possibly be full strength again, but he just slumbers about in hospital reading his dirty book.

Anil
06-22-2006, 11:30 PM
What I don't understand is why Kakashi believes that Naruto developing an "ultimate technique" will mean he will be surapassed. Unless he's going to guide Naruto into developing the technique a certain way.

I'm betting that the next chapter will involve this new Jinchuuriki escaping the clutches of Akatsuki. If not, I don't really see the point in haveing seen her at all. Also, I like the fact that Tsunade is ready to take a more aggressive stance concerning them as well. I couldn't understand why they would let such a dangerous group run amok without at least deciding on a plan of action.

I think it will be some time before we see anymore from Orochimaru and Sasuke. They will likely wait till some more of the members of Akatsuki have been offed before making any open moves.

Draffut
06-22-2006, 11:37 PM
It's going to be pretty boring if there's no more Kakashi. I mean if Naruto is going to surpass him, then Kakashi may just become a very minor player. But he's been absent for ages and it's annoying that the best ones always don't appear that much and I know it's about Naruto, but COME ON!
I thought he would have healed by now considering it usually takes a week for him to recover and they were supposed to meet Sasuke in 10 days. That means he should possibly be full strength again, but he just slumbers about in hospital reading his dirty book.

It took him a week after using a normal Sharingan, it is far more detrimental for him to use the MS like he did. Should be intersting, as he said "The training will tkae super long, but we will do it in less then 6 months" Anyone think he is going to use the Moon God technique to have naruto train in Tsykoyomi (sp?) world.

Hopefully he still still hang around as leader of team 7 until near the end of the series.

And yes, just do manga talk here, anime i think should be a different thread though.

SLVR
06-22-2006, 11:47 PM
I dont trust Wikipedia in the slightest. any jamoke can go change that at any time. Hell, i could make it say "Slvr has a P**** for a head" right now. No real reason to, but you get my point. It can be changed and adjusted any way for anytihng. please get me a direct databook rip.Every other website/Forum says Amatrasu requires MS

Anil
06-23-2006, 12:02 AM
Ummm yeah... Amaterasu is one of the techniques that Itachi developed because of the Mangekyou Sharingan.

If you go back and check you'll realize that the Mangekyou Sharingan and Amaterasu are directly related.

Moving on. It does seem that Kakashi will use a space-time technique to train Naruto, however if he uses the Mangekyou Sharingan again he may kill himself. I hope he finds another way. That Sharingan is too dangerous to be used in such a manner.

hitsugaya131
06-23-2006, 12:55 AM
i was thinking and maybe something with kyuubi
cuz naruto was all like ill use my own pwr after he went into kyuubi at the bridge.
maybe to better control the pwr, like when talking with sasuke...
kakashi heard all about that i believe

Anil
06-23-2006, 01:24 AM
Well Naruto himself made the decision not to rely on the Kyuubi power anymore.

I think it's unlikely we'll see him attempting to use kyuubi as a technique again.

However, who really knows? I still am hoping that Kakashi has something more in mind for this training than just another technique.

Unless... hmmm.. I dunno. I can't see one technique being enough to let Naruto surpass Kakashi.

It would have to be the most perfect technique ever created. EVER.

AznPoi
06-23-2006, 02:26 AM
The nine raseagan attack move. That would surpass Kakashi XD

Caesar
06-23-2006, 09:16 AM
i believe that this jutsu is gonna change naruto's lvl of fighting as well cause we all saw what happened to sasuke when he learnt chidori he didnt develop as much as naruto but this changed his speed and power.. i believe also that this jutsu will be more powerfull from rasengan as kakashi said but this will also will have its level trainings.. naruto of course will not go and train that way but.. who knows..

hitsugaya131
06-23-2006, 11:19 AM
i think that ifs a move that surpasses kakashi then it would be something undetecable by the sharingan or something that sharingan can read
ie: like w/ rock lee and sharigan is useless if you dont have the speed

maybe the fourth's move or something, the Hiraishin.
there's talk of naruto possibly being yondaime's son.
he would have to learn it on his own though cuz no one can teach him
or maybe something w/ kakashi ms can help him learn a totally new move, but im pretty sure its something with the 4th.

also do you think itachi will stop oro from taking sasuke's body?
i think that he will cuz sasuke's his brother...i think if he left sasuke alive for a reason then he wouldn't let his brother's life be taken away by a snake creep. i think that itachi's feelings deep down still cares for his brother although he may not show it...i think itachi doesn't hate sasuke..
and i think he was forced by someone to kill the clan..
i dunno..i just dont think that itachi suddenly hated the clan and then went on a killing ramage...

anyone disagre.....agree
comments:

Draffut
06-23-2006, 11:55 AM
I think Orochimaru is goign to attempt to take over Sasuke, and by then Sasuke will have become more powerful and he will absorb Oro instead. Causeing him to gain Oro's massive power, and consuming the Cursed Seal. Just my guess.

Naruto is someone related to the 4th, there are WAY to many referances to determine though. Is he younger brother, son, reincarnation of the 4th, who knows. But he is related somehow.

I would still like to see naruto open the inner Chakra gates. Naruto KN8 + 7 gates open. GG all of Akatsuki at once.

iLeo
06-23-2006, 12:00 PM
312 - Me and my friend scanlated this :D
Send space : http://www.sendspace.com/file/iz3jbh
Rapid Share : http://rapidshare.de/files/23866410/_Mangatsu__Naruto-312.rar.html

The hidden oncomming threat!

Caesar
06-23-2006, 12:25 PM
i dont think we are going to see naruto learning his new jutsu any time soon(next 2-3 chapters or so..). i hope my prediction doesnt come true ;D

@Faith: rly good work.. it was sure better than the one in narutofan.

iLeo
06-23-2006, 12:36 PM
i dont think we are going to see naruto learning his new jutsu any time soon(next 2-3 chapters or so..). i hope my prediction doesnt come true ;D

@Faith: rly good work.. it was sure better than the one in narutofan.

The one on narutofan is mine!! lmao.. just the last 5 pages.. were *Not changed at all* i just added text because i had a assignment and didnt have time to finish it.. but that one is all "fixed up"

Check the folder name.. 312.. (mangatsu > mangatsu)

lmao..

hitsugaya131
06-23-2006, 12:38 PM
good job .faith

thx for the scanlations...

Anil
06-23-2006, 05:23 PM
LOL

Kakashi cracks me up

"this isn't a novel where the main character gets stronger overnight. It will take time"

Naruto: "I just said we don't have time!"

Kakashi: "Oh. Well in that case, there is this shortcut..."

Only Kakashi would pull something like this in the Narutoverse.

I do, however, believe that it will indeed take substantial time for Naruto to develop this technique despite whatever way Kakashi has devised for it to take less time. That's because creating hi own ultimate echnique will involve THINKING.

This could very well take weeks. Months, even.

hitsugaya131
06-23-2006, 05:51 PM
about your ms idea, anil, i think that that's the only way that they could practice the technique in a short time...using amaestrou to make time go slower...like 48 hours in 1 sec or something, but don't know if kakashi can do that, he's got the ms (not the third ms user), but he doesn't got the uchiha blood. also ya, it strains him

i gotta say that the last two chapters were better than the ones then the few before, i thought that KM had lost his touch....but i think he's back on track

there are so many new chars and so much forshadowing and cliffhangers:
naruto's tech
naruto's that jutsu
sasuke's that jutsu
sasuke and oro joining
new atasuki new members
two-tailed jiuruniki
how kakashi is goin to train naruto in a short time
etc....

gots lot to think and chat about~

Caesar
06-23-2006, 06:20 PM
The one on narutofan is mine!! lmao.. just the last 5 pages.. were *Not changed at all* i just added text because i had a assignment and didnt have time to finish it.. but that one is all "fixed up"

Check the folder name.. 312.. (mangatsu > mangatsu)

lmao..
damn you cant take even a compliment right.. xD
rly now.. i saw that but i didnt put too much thought to it.. xD

@anil:this fast way of learning kinda reminds me of the way ichigo got bankai..xp

Anil
06-23-2006, 06:47 PM
damn you cant take even a compliment right.. xD
rly now.. i saw that but i didnt put too much thought to it.. xD

@anil:this fast way of learning kinda reminds me of the way ichigo got bankai..xp


Yeah, that's kinda the problem with this whole thing.

However I doubt he'll be doing anything anywhere near that fast. More likely it'll take him a few weeks.

I was wondering about whether Kakashi would use a sealing technique. It was mentioned before that summoning involves spatial distrotion of some kind. Perhaps Kakashi can "seal" off an area of space-time for Naruto to work in.

I dunno. I'm just trying to think of a way that doesn't involve Kakashi nearly killing himself by using Mangekyou Sharingan.

Caesar
06-23-2006, 07:09 PM
i kinda accept that theory..this is the only way but it might have to do with kyubi as well..

Wanderweiss
06-23-2006, 07:56 PM
Using the Mangekyou Sharingan isn't going to kill him. He was just reckless with using it last time because he hadn't had much practice with it, and he used it a few times in the day. Simply put, it was taking a lot of chakra to sustain it, but now he's had 3 days to rest and he'll only be using it once... and in a safe enviornment. Do you think he had never used it during his training? Nope! He had probably tested it dozens of times, but a practical test (IE using it during the battle with Diedara) he wasn't as good as he had hoped. lol Kakashi is no push-over, and if he can master the Mangekyou Sharingan he'll be even better.

Though it was said earlier in the series that only a person with Uchiha blood and truely master the Sharingan... which is what explained the wear and tear it made on Kakashi when he had used it earlier as well.

*Edit: Even Itachi had to rest a while after using the Mangekyou Sharingan a bunch, and he has had years of experience with it. :(

Draffut
06-23-2006, 08:58 PM
Yeah, that's kinda the problem with this whole thing.
However I doubt he'll be doing anything anywhere near that fast. More likely it'll take him a few weeks.
I was wondering about whether Kakashi would use a sealing technique. It was mentioned before that summoning involves spatial distrotion of some kind. Perhaps Kakashi can "seal" off an area of space-time for Naruto to work in.
I dunno. I'm just trying to think of a way that doesn't involve Kakashi nearly killing himself by using Mangekyou Sharingan.
MS wont kill Kakashi, it just causes alot of strait to his body. The worst thign that comes out of it is he will lose all sight in that eye if he does it to much. Hell, he doesn;t even have to get out of bed to use the jutsu, he just says "com'ere boy!" to naruto, they look at each other, and the game is on.

Also, Kakashi is now actually, the official MS user. he is the third person to aquire it. maybe not master, but that isn't the question.

Byakuya Teichou
06-23-2006, 10:25 PM
Also, Kakashi is now actually, the official MS user. he is the third person to aquire it. maybe not master, but that isn't the question.

I might have to correct you on that one, judging from this page it seems Itachi seems a bit suprised of what hidden abilities Kakashi has awakend within his sharingan. But In the past when he was talking to Sasuke about the MS he mention that there are only three full blooded Uchihas.

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/7556/v29ch257101ac.th.png (http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=v29ch257101ac.png)

Littlelegs
06-23-2006, 11:18 PM
Cant wait for the next chapter. A two tailed demon who looks like a grown woman, Narutos new jutsu just for himself, two new akatsuki members. Wow, a week is so long

Quincy_Pride
06-23-2006, 11:45 PM
Yeah, that's kinda the problem with this whole thing.
However I doubt he'll be doing anything anywhere near that fast. More likely it'll take him a few weeks.
I was wondering about whether Kakashi would use a sealing technique. It was mentioned before that summoning involves spatial distrotion of some kind. Perhaps Kakashi can "seal" off an area of space-time for Naruto to work in.
I dunno. I'm just trying to think of a way that doesn't involve Kakashi nearly killing himself by using Mangekyou Sharingan.

Yes he probably can, remember Susake's brother put Kakashi into a dimension where time moved VERY slowly. It is possible that he can train Naruto there but bearing in mind Kakashi won't be able to hold that for long.

But all it takes is a few seconds to last like hours.

This sounds like Dragonball Z and the time chamber.

hitsugaya131
06-24-2006, 02:49 AM
yep, originally what i was saying b4

thats the thing that i believe kakashi will do or something similar to it
he seems to be resting a lot and keeping his eye shut so maybe he's improved on it...
a while has passed cuz shikamaru says that the chunin examination is over which takes a few months....

SLVR
06-24-2006, 05:26 AM
I have no Idea how he can improve on it by going into accoma every time he uses it.

hitsugaya131
06-24-2006, 07:03 PM
i dunnno, maybe he learned more about it for the while that they were gone...
or tested it out in short periods of time to find the limit of it....

what do u think about kakashi's short method then SLVR?

Byakuya Teichou
06-24-2006, 07:40 PM
Maybe the kind of time chamber thing is a good idea and all but im hoping he does a make it look easy type of training like the tree climbing exercise.

SLVR
06-24-2006, 07:57 PM
i dunnno, maybe he learned more about it for the while that they were gone...
or tested it out in short periods of time to find the limit of it....

what do u think about kakashi's short method then SLVR?

I think it would be something retarded like a way to counter Itachi's MS Genjtsu. Wich would be truly retarded since its not suppose to be counterd at all. Id like to see him teach some kinda superior ninjustu

hitsugaya131
06-25-2006, 01:43 AM
i keep on thinking about kakashi using ms to train naruto, but sai and sakura are goin be there too, so they gotta train too...or maybe sai and sakura are goin to be the practice tragets or something of the sort

*just watched naruto ep 39 dub....the voices were pretty bad compared to japanese..i personally thought that this was the worst dub they did so far...sasuke's voice sounded like a girl in one quote.

SLVR
06-25-2006, 08:18 AM
I honestly cant excpt Kakashi using MS at all to train or in general. I mean its ok. But hedosnt have the Chakra capacity#1 And he is Not Uchiha blood

Quincy_Pride
06-25-2006, 10:30 AM
I honestly cant excpt Kakashi using MS at all to train or in general. I mean its ok. But hedosnt have the Chakra capacity#1 And he is Not Uchiha blood

As time goes on he has more control over it but again he is limited to how many times he can use it. Remember he used it 3 times when Naruto came back. Plus all Kakashi has to do is use it once, keep it for a couple of seconds and that's all he needs to get Naruto in there. The only way to beat MS is to look away. Sharingan can only effect the user if they look at the eyes. I wonder if Gai would help Naruto on this as he's the master when it comes to fighting someone with a Sharingan.

All Kakashi needs is a second to get Naruto in MS and then he can do what he wants, as it only takes a second to last hours.

Kat-Tun
06-25-2006, 12:10 PM
I just read the latest chapter.. Man i hate cliffhangers O_O" I doubt that Naruto can develope his own powerfull jutsu...

orochimaru7810
06-25-2006, 05:54 PM
stronger then rasengen i would like to see what that could possibly be or maybe he found out a way the help naruto keep the nine tailed fox under control when u goes 4 tails and maybe even 5 oooooooooooo bump bump bump bumpppppppp

hitsugaya131
06-26-2006, 01:15 AM
that would be good, but i would like to see naruto develop a move without using the kyuubi...im thinking about a move to counter sharingan so that he can beat sasuke cuz when naruto was talking about sasuke's short time left, maybe kakashi will teach something to help him defeat sasuke

the two new atasuki dont look that strong...still think that itachi's the strongest...with the way he last pwned naruto, kakashi, sakura, and chiyoi
im not saying they may be strong though...

does everyone think sai is stupid...
cuz i think that he's way cooler now...
i dont really see how he looks like sasuke
also any thoughts on sai and ino pairing..?
i like the pairing of shikamaru and ino...but dunno

Grimmjow
06-26-2006, 04:51 AM
I think Naruto's new jutsu will be an evolution of the rasengan like something sronger and better.i think the 2 new akatsuki are awesome Hidan is said to have a 3 bladed scythe thing.and I dont think Itachi is the strongest maybe out of the regular aktsuki mambers but the leader is stronger.

AznPoi
06-26-2006, 05:11 AM
that would be good, but i would like to see naruto develop a move without using the kyuubi...im thinking about a move to counter sharingan so that he can beat sasuke cuz when naruto was talking about sasuke's short time left, maybe kakashi will teach something to help him defeat sasuke
the two new atasuki dont look that strong...still think that itachi's the strongest...with the way he last pwned naruto, kakashi, sakura, and chiyoi
im not saying they may be strong though...
does everyone think sai is stupid...
cuz i think that he's way cooler now...
i dont really see how he looks like sasuke
also any thoughts on sai and ino pairing..?
i like the pairing of shikamaru and ino...but dunno

na, shikamaru will pair up with that fan dude from the Sand, Gaara's sister.

Draffut
06-26-2006, 12:02 PM
I might have to correct you on that one, judging from this page it seems Itachi seems a bit suprised of what hidden abilities Kakashi has awakend within his sharingan. But In the past when he was talking to Sasuke about the MS he mention that there are only three full blooded Uchihas.
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/7556/v29ch257101ac.th.png (http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=v29ch257101ac.png)

You draw far to much from that. It shows that Kakashi has aquired a MS. while he may not be an Uchiha, he still has a full powered sharingan in one eye. If we go by what Itachi said back in the Three Sannin arc, thier are only two MS users before this point. Kakashi beat Sasuke to #3.

I have no Idea how he can improve on it by going into accoma every time he uses it.

He turns one second into 3 days. even if he only uses that once a day (which i think Kakashi can manage, he's a tough guy) that is like 2 years instead of 6 months. plenty of time.

I am willing to bet Kakashi partially blames himself for Sasuke leaving. The last time they saw each other, Kakashi bound sasuke to a tree and lectured him. (after the hospital roof scene) and as one of the Genin under him, it is also his responsibility to watch over Sasuke. This is the reason i think Kakashi would put himself threw pain, and possible blindness to get Sasuke back.

I think Naruto's new jutsu will be an evolution of the rasengan like something sronger and better.i think the 2 new akatsuki are awesome Hidan is said to have a 3 bladed scythe thing.and I dont think Itachi is the strongest maybe out of the regular aktsuki mambers but the leader is stronger.

Naruto already has an upgraded Rasengan, go read where him and Kakashi fight Itachi.

And yes, the leader is stronger then Itachi. and the last member may also be. Akatsuki seams to be split into 4 groups of 2, then Akatsuki Leader, adn the flytrap guy (it's a monday, cant remember names) are seperate. I am willing to bet that the last member is Orochimaru's old partner. and a very powerful one at that.

hitsugaya131
06-26-2006, 05:48 PM
yep, the leader is stronger...i didn't mean it as itachi as the strongest.....i meant besides the leader....
anybody think anything about his eyes...they kinda look like sharingan or kurenai's eyes...

and no, naruto's new jutsu will not be a new rasengan cuz kakashi said that it will be a move solely to him...also there's the odmaga rasengan already....like draffut said it was not too long ago when he fought itachi...
does anyone still think that kabuto has some relation to the atasuki?

as for kakashi, i think he blames himself as well. he tried so hard to stop sasuke....and with him all about teamwork...also he must be really sad cuz he betrayed almost betrayed rin when he was young and that kinda led to obito's death....he blames himself for that and he must be sad that his own student is making the same mistake that he is by betraying his friends...and village

SLVR
06-27-2006, 05:13 AM
Naruto already has an upgraded Rasengan, go read where him and Kakashi fight Itachi.

And yes, the leader is stronger then Itachi. and the last member may also be. Akatsuki seams to be split into 4 groups of 2, then Akatsuki Leader, adn the flytrap guy (it's a monday, cant remember names) are seperate. I am willing to bet that the last member is Orochimaru's old partner. and a very powerful one at that.

Orochimaru's partner was Sasori of the Desert. And if the leader is stronger than Itachi which I think then everyone should give up cause Sasuke even said that him and Oro cant beat Itachi still. And we saw how Sasuke improved. Itachi > 2 Kage lvl ninja(Oro, Sasuke CS2) Hate to think of what the leader is capable of

Draffut
06-27-2006, 03:01 PM
Orochimaru's partner was Sasori of the Desert. And if the leader is stronger than Itachi which I think then everyone should give up cause Sasuke even said that him and Oro cant beat Itachi still. And we saw how Sasuke improved. Itachi > 2 Kage lvl ninja(Oro, Sasuke CS2) Hate to think of what the leader is capable of

I probobly missed where Sasori says he is orochimaru's partner. any links? not saying you are wrong, i just forgot.

Also how is Sasuke CS 2 Kage level? he is not near it, especially since CS wont help him as much now. remember the seal just lets you use your energy at it's full potential, which Sasuke has pretty much already reached normally.

Also, noone ever said that Itachi was more powerful then both of them at the same time, though the chance of it is still there. I dont think the fact that Itachi always has Kisame at his side helps much either.

and why would they just give up. Naruto has the most powerful bieng in existance inside of him. and there are numerous people to send up against the AL. you have all 15 Genin's from the chuunin exam, 3 Sannin, Kakashi, Gai, and new chars. (Sai)

Plenty of people to throw up against the Akatsuki in teams. (Like Sakura plus the hag teamed up to take one down)

hitsugaya131
06-27-2006, 03:09 PM
for the atasuki rings for the new members:
三台 - さんたい, Santai - The Three Levels: worn by Hidan
北斗 - ほくと, Hokuto - Northern Star: worn by Kakuzu.

also any ideas on tobi and possibly being obito...

on sasori being oro's partner it says it on wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akatsuki_%28Naruto%29
but obviously after oro's depature, deidara was his partner...(the last atasuki arc..)

i think that sakura and tsuande would need a melee fighter to take another atasuki down...they're mostly healers and short distance fighters...
i believe that sasuke CS2 is not kage lvl cuz he just barely beat naruto last time and naruto is not kage lvl
i would say sauke's a high jounin, like neji, or possibly almost a sanin lvl...

Draffut
06-27-2006, 04:04 PM
I tend not to belive most anything on Wikipedia, as alot of people's info is wrong. like:

"At 13, he was feared by even Orochimaru. He is now currently associated with Akatsuki. Orochimaru had planned to use Itachi's body as a new container for his soul, but Itachi's power had grown to such a frightening extent that Orochimaru dared not carry out his plan, and decided to leave Akatsuki and try his luck with the younger Sasuke instead."

This is on their in Itachi's background, and is pretty much completely incorrect.

hitsugaya131
06-27-2006, 04:10 PM
whats wrong aobut it....i dont see anything wrong w/ that...but if you want the exact panal of when it states that, i'll post it...

Draffut
06-27-2006, 04:28 PM
Please do, Orochimaru wasn;t afraid of Itachi at age 13. it was a few years afterwards. Also, it never says that Orochimaru planned to use Itachi as a container.

Also, after Orochimaru left Akatsuki, he wanted to use Kimimaro as a container. it wasn't until Kimi became ill that he decided to go after Sasuke.

hitsugaya131
06-27-2006, 04:37 PM
guess your right with the 13 thing, but...with oro wanting itachi
um well, its implied that oro wanted to:
http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/2530/chapter140044pb.jpg
http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/3676/chapter140058ub.jpg
as for the sasori pic, im still looking...

Draffut
06-27-2006, 04:43 PM
How direct is that translation? Because of Orochimaru's use of the words "Join uS" in referance to Itachi, It sounds like he wasn;t looking so much as to take over his body. More like he had somethign else in mind, like he tried to get Itachi to assist in the Invasion of Konoha, but itachi refused to "join him" and help with that.

The fact that Kimimaro was Orochimaru's choice of a container before Sasuke also leads to that Sharingan wasn;t what Orochimaru was originally after.

But thatnks for the pic thouh, I have been tryign to find the one that had his hand with his Akatsuki ring on it for a while.

hitsugaya131
06-27-2006, 10:56 PM
here u go draffut
finally, heres the pic bout sasori and oro being partners from chapter 267:
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/160/chapter267044oj.jpg

SLVR
06-28-2006, 01:52 AM
I probobly missed where Sasori says he is orochimaru's partner. any links? not saying you are wrong, i just forgot.
Also how is Sasuke CS 2 Kage level? he is not near it, especially since CS wont help him as much now. remember the seal just lets you use your energy at it's full potential, which Sasuke has pretty much already reached normally.

Did you see how easily he beat Yamato who is Anbu? He is Anbu and He was picked to lead team 7 and he got dusted by Sasuke. He says it clear that neither him or Oro can beat them. And that pretty much says if it was a 2 on 1 they would still loose. But if Sasuke gives him his body they can beat him. Proof is in the puddin
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c367/Hoshal/Page11.jpg

Draffut
06-28-2006, 12:27 PM
You win on the partner thing, gj.

but i still dont see Sasuke as anything about Kakashi's level. He hit Yamoto once.... thats it. he didn't own him in any way. Yamoto was protecting sakura, and even when stabbed he was still able to retaliate. Though it took a minute, becuase of what's below

This was Sasuke's triumphant return. Kishi had to make everyone else look stupid to make Sasuke look that much more incredible. Notice how everyone just stood their like idiots while Sasuke owned them. The whole scene was indended to make people go "Ohhhh, sasuke *splurgg*" Had it been intended as anything else, team 7 might have actually moved.

Kishi has already stated that Sasuke is his favorite charecter, this was just bad writing on his part, an auther showing charecter favoritism. Sasuke is no more powerful then Kakashi. (upper Jounin) and as stated above, the curse seal helps him very little now.

I know what Sasuke said about him giing his body to Oro would let orochimaru take Itachi (as in your pic). that doesn't show Him on kage level at all.

hitsugaya131
06-28-2006, 12:35 PM
i have to agree with u, draffut that he isnt kage level....yamato was protecting sakura b/c he saw something dangerous w/in sasuke when he was rushing woards her...
and yes thx for agreeing with me that he is a high lvl jounin, equal to kakashi or neji...or kabuto....
oro is kage lvl and he stopped sasuke's that jutsu with just the holding of his appearing from nowhere...i dont believe sasuke is as strong his sensei, oro yet...

and yes...thx goddess i won that partner thing..i took me forever to find it...lol

Draffut
06-28-2006, 05:04 PM
i have to agree with u, draffut that he isnt kage level....yamato was protecting sakura b/c he saw something dangerous w/in sasuke when he was rushing woards her...
and yes thx for agreeing with me that he is a high lvl jounin, equal to kakashi or neji...or kabuto....
oro is kage lvl and he stopped sasuke's that jutsu with just the holding of his appearing from nowhere...i dont believe sasuke is as strong his sensei, oro yet...
and yes...thx goddess i won that partner thing..i took me forever to find it...lol

But then that asks the question, who was Deidra's partner before Orochimaru left. The unknown member?

hitsugaya131
06-28-2006, 05:35 PM
possibly or maybe she joined at time when oro left...
cant say yet
maybe one of the two new members...enough hasnt been revealed yet to really know...
these are good discussion draffut...

SLVR
06-29-2006, 04:00 AM
Oro and Sasori made 10. But now that thier not thier its 8. So logic makes me think that he/she had a partner or got swiched around but, Simce the leader dosnt appear to me to have a partner Deidra could have been the secon odd man/she out.

Draffut
06-29-2006, 12:00 PM
But Zetsu doesn't seam to have a partner either. The venus fly-trap guy who is always lurking about. Whcih would make him the second odd-man out.

Anil
06-29-2006, 12:25 PM
I would guess that before Orochimaru left, Deidara's partner was Zetsu.

Also, contrary to the belief that many people hold, I don't think the "leader" of Akatsuki is without a partner. If he put together a team of S-rank felons, he's probably the kind that can see the value in teamwork, especially since he has everyone moves in pairs. Everyone has their weaknesses so having a partner to cover that weakness just makes sense.

So I think he's paired with the last member that also hasn't been revelaed. I think the only reason he's allowing Zetsu to move around alone is because Zetsu is one of the few members that has already captured a jinchuuriki. Hence his need for support is minimal as he doesn't have to actually engage in combat now.

hitsugaya131
06-29-2006, 12:41 PM
who knows if hidran and forgot the other other guys name was there b4 and maybe they didnt travel in pairs cuz they were just spying or like anil said that they captured a jirunkii
so far the atasuki that we know are:

1atasuki leader
2an atasuki member who let kisame take team gai
3deidara
4kisame
5hidan
6kakuzu
7sasori X
8tobi ?
9itachi
10zetsu
11oro X
so right now there are eight members that equals four pairs...
i have a feeling that the leader is partners with the unamed one
and that the new ones are partners
so that would leave deidara with zetsu
im just using process of elimanation....thoughts..


also 313 RAW is out!!!
http://rapidshare.de/files/24469490/NARUTO_-_313.zip
no translations yet....but discuss...
check it out at manga helpers

the two new atasuki members fight the jirunnki who seems to be a fire tiger of some sort...also the three rookie genin teachers are shown talking to kakashi....no naruto, sai, or sakura this week

Anil
06-29-2006, 03:01 PM
Ok so here is what I figured out from the last chapter.
The two tail is indeed the Nekomata (cat demon of Japanese mythology)
She seems pretty strong, but she get's defeated. They don't really show us how. Some kind of weird sealing technique. Also, from what I can tell, the map on the last page has 7 "X" marks on it. It looks like Akatsuki has managed to get 7 of the nine bijuu or something. I can't be certain as I can't read japanese.

Also the Jinchuurikir sealed herself in whatever complex they were in before releasing her demon so that she wouldn't get loose and kill people apparently. So it doesn't appear that there is anyway to control a bijuu that's been fully released (at least none has been shown yet)

hitsugaya131
06-29-2006, 03:16 PM
yes...that means that there are only two jirunki left to find... and also i saw that array thing...and it reminded me of fma.... anyway, that girl seemed like she had a tempermental issue like naruto releasing her bijuu and all. but two atasuki members did get a little injured/had a little trouble with the jirunnki so i suspect that they are a bit weaker than itachi. cuz itachi didnt seem to break a sweat with naruto and kakashi last time. that means that that the jirunnki are pretty good....she's from the lighting country, but she used earth techs right.

Anil
06-29-2006, 03:22 PM
yes...that means that there are only two jirunki left to find... and also i saw that array thing...and it reminded me of fma.... anyway, that girl seemed like she had a tempermental issue like naruto releasing her bijuu and all. but two atasuki members did get a little injured/had a little trouble with the jirunnki so i suspect that they are a bit weaker than itachi. cuz itachi didnt seem to break a sweat with naruto and kakashi last time. that means that that the jirunnki are pretty good....she's from the lighting country, but she used earth techs right.


Actually she used explosive notes. You can see one in a panel just before the tunnel blows.

I'm not sure how tempermental she was. She seemed pretty calm to be. I guess she figured that the only way she could defeat two members of Akatsuki was to seal herself in with them and let her bijuu out.

Should be interesting to see what happens next. This whole thing is confusing. I need a good translation. The ones that are out are half-done.

hitsugaya131
06-29-2006, 03:31 PM
sry didnt catch that... and also whats with hidan praying....he didnt look like a religous person at first....the girl's name is nibi and also, didnt leaf and cloud have a dispute ova the hyuuga a while ago...are they at peace now or are they still angry towards each other. cuz then that may affect nibi
and yes waiting for the tranlations as well..
ive seen u alot today anil...grins...
also they seem like a pair, cuz the title, the duo, so i guess that leaves leader, unnamed, deidara, and zetsu without known partners right now....

Anil
06-29-2006, 03:54 PM
sry didnt catch that... and also whats with hidan praying....he didnt look like a religous person at first....the girl's name is nibi and also, didnt leaf and cloud have a dispute ova the hyuuga a while ago...are they at peace now or are they still angry towards each other. cuz then that may affect nibi
and yes waiting for the tranlations as well..
ive seen u alot today anil...grins...
also they seem like a pair, cuz the title, the duo, so i guess that leaves leader, unnamed, deidara, and zetsu without known partners right now....


Ok wtf. hidan is freakin' creepy. "My religion believes in slaughter. Anything less is a sin." 0_o

Kakuzu cracks me up. This is a great pair.

I don't know what the current relationship between Konoha and Cloud is, but I can tell you one thing. If Neji get's involved, it won't be pretty.

Also it seems Yukido (or Yugito, the translations differ) is the second strongest in Cloud. 0_0 Man oh man, Akatsuki is just killing the talent right out of the Hidden villages. First the Kazekage, then the second-to-Raikage? Wow. These guys are pretty scary. Why the hell haven't they killed Orochimaru yet? Or is he that damn strong? *shudder*


EDIT- Full Translation done by Yoshitsune over at mangahelpers.

It appears they don't have seven bijuu. The marks on the map are just the country that these two have already searched. This grup still has one more Jinchuuriki to capture. Oh, guess where they are headed next? The Fire country. this looks to mean like they may be taking their captured Jinchuuriki with them. Or not. I guess we'll see.

hitsugaya131
06-29-2006, 04:05 PM
yep i was just about to post it:

Done with it
But 1 line going over, the one about the Nekojita (cat tongue, fire breath?)
Naruto 313

2.
And the person Akatsuki is chasing...!?

Kakuzu: 「やるぞ」 Let's do it
Hidan: 「ちょい待ち」 Wait a sec
Hidan: 「アレやる前には ちゃんと神に祈りを捧げねーとな」 Hmm, before we do, we have to pray to the gods

Nibi: .....

Kakuzu: You're always such a pain in the ass

3.
俺だってめんどくせーけど 戒律なんだからしょうがねーだろ それに省略ってなんだ 神への冒涜だぞ!!
I may be a pain in the ass, but the Buddhist precepts are strict, so there's no point
in arguing!

Nibi: .....

Nibi:
Hmph, you planned to corner me, right? Well that's not the case

I'm the one who invited you!

4.
Nibi: Especially since I now know you are Akatsuki, I won't let you escape

5.
Nibi: In the name of Konogakure's (cloud village) second best, I Yugito will kill you!

Hidan: Ha..? What do you mean kill?
You're still going to be knocked out despite wanting to be enthusiastic...
Now I'm irritated

Hidan: And..when I'm angry, blood rushes to my head
And when blood rushes to my head
Kakuzu: Shuttup, quit it, Hidan

Hidan: Yeah yeah
But- When blood rushes to my head I get "Even if we have a goal in mind, it's
fine to destroy you" kinds of feelings

Kakuzu: Cut the crap, Hidan
Our goal is what matters

6.
Hidan: First off, our job this time has nothing to do with our sects,
The religion of Jashin's (wicked hearts)motto is massacre
the precepts of Buddhism say we must not leave a target half dead.

Hidan: We'd be doing something that violate these precepts...

Even if I look like this, I'm deeply religious you know!
..Meaning...Not killing you would be a pain...

Shall we settle it here with a little discussion?

Yugito: A discussion..?
(What's he up to...)

Hidan: ....

7.
Hidan: I wonder if you'll be obedient and be caught..
Yugito: Hmph

Don't mess with me!!

Hidan: Huh..? I guess not, huh?
Kakuzu: You fool

8. **Nice kitty cat!!**

9.
Hidan: What's with this Jinchuuriki
She completely changed into her Jinchuuriki form

10.
Hidan: Ha-ah..

Crap!

11.
Hidan: That was hot!
She's a Nekojita

12.
Hidan: So this is the life energy of the two-tailed monster cat

Look like I'm a but a mouse in mousetrap
Ku ku...
I shouldn't laugh...

Kakashi: What did you want to talk about?
Asuma: Actually...

13.
Kurenai: I'm here

Kakashi: Hey, it's Kurenai..
Do you need anything?
Kurenai: I heard Asuma had come here

Asuma:...

Kakashi: Hm~mm... And your talk Asuma?
Asuma: No, I'll talk to you about it some other time more slowly
Sorry

Kakashi (He sure feels anxious...)

14. **Ouch**

15.
Kakuzu: 30 mins have gone by...you're not done yet, Hidan?

Hidan: Shuttup! Don't interrupt my ceremony!

Ouch..

16.
Kakuzu: Every single time it's the same bitter (bad) tasting prayer
Can't you just take out some parts?

Let's go on to the next one

Hidan: I might be a pain, they are the precepts so no-can-do

Besides, what do you mean take out some parts? "Take them out"!
Thatwould be blasphemous to the god!!

Kakuzu: ....
(Our job involves one more Jinchuuriki)
(We need to search thouroughly)

Kakuzu: Next is the Fire Country

Preview: The Akatsuki are searching for the Jinchuuriki.
And what is their goal!? Next time: Training Begins!!

i'm getting really annoyed with the spoiler tags, so now that the translation is out..we can talk about it.

finally training in the next chapter....but ya never know with MT
and yes, hidan is pretty freaky....but they're an awesome pair...
pretty funny how hidan is....i think i like him

also, they seem interested in naruto....
an atasuki invasion like i predicted perhaps...

Anil
06-29-2006, 04:15 PM
also, they seem interested in naruto....
an atasuki invasion like i predicted perhaps...


hmmm.. seems that way. And with Tsunade's new stance on Akatsuki, I think we can expect some serious action.

I wonder what's bothering Asuma? Could it have something to do with Shikamaru? Ino noted his strange absence in 312. Or does it have to do with Kurenai? Or something else entirely?


Ah damn. More plots withn plots. This is getting needlessly complicated.

I looks like there will probably be more team assisted battles. Asuma's team and Naruto's tema it looks like, though at this rate it's anyone's guess.

I'm sick of the spoiler tags as well. -_-

But this Akatsuki pair are funny (if scary as hell). Can't wait to see how all this turns out.

I don't think they are specifically looking for Naruto though, it seems they are just thoroughly searching everywhere they go.

hitsugaya131
06-29-2006, 04:23 PM
yep, but they did say something about the fire country
any idea on what their job is cuz they said that they needed more jirunnki or maybe there's one more jiruunki in the fire country..

yep...i sense another major fighting arc coming. (like the sanins fighting, sasuke rescue arc, sasori, etc.) i hope its good....havent seen one of those in a while...

that will be good if more of the rookie genin and team gai are involved cuz we havent seen them fight in a while...
i wanna see neji too....and yep he'll get mad scary if they still have disputes between cloud.....o_0

Draffut
06-29-2006, 04:54 PM
I Highly doubt the X'2 stand for Jinchuuriki that have been captured. If it did then thier would have also been an X in the sand nation for Gaara. I am willign to put my money that those are places where they already searched, and Konoha is next. Especially since i doubt that thier was a Jinchuuriki hiding out in the Sound nation (it had an X) without Orochimaru killing it. and a minor nation with 2 Jinchu's. I highly doubt that with the amount of power i takes to seal one.

Someone else had a great ide aabout what Asuma had to say. Pretty much he wanted kakashi to be his best man, and propose to Kurenai, but had to stop short when she came in...

hitsugaya131
06-29-2006, 06:02 PM
I Highly doubt the X'2 stand for Jinchuuriki that have been captured. If it did then thier would have also been an X in the sand nation for Gaara. I am willign to put my money that those are places where they already searched, and Konoha is next. Especially since i doubt that thier was a Jinchuuriki hiding out in the Sound nation (it had an X) without Orochimaru killing it. and a minor nation with 2 Jinchu's. I highly doubt that with the amount of power i takes to seal one.
Someone else had a great ide aabout what Asuma had to say. Pretty much he wanted kakashi to be his best man, and propose to Kurenai, but had to stop short when she came in...

thats true to draffut...it coulda been that places that they checked...
also i think that kurenai and asuma would make a nice couple, but i dont think thats it. i think that there's too much action and atasuki stuff goin on now to have wedding or proposal occur...but who knows.

here's a scanlation:
http://rapidshare.de/files/24482127/313MQbydesv2.zip

Draffut
06-29-2006, 07:19 PM
Ya. the marriage thing was just an idea that i thought would be really cool. When Kishi first started, he said the series would have a bit of romance in it, which it has lacked so far. Would be a nice change of pace for a bit.

The X's could mean many things, but for it to mean all the Bijuu's they have already captured wouldn't make a whole lot of sense. The fact that they ae all clumped together in that corner of the known would would be kinda wierd. how they are set up it looks like those are places that have looked, nopw they are makign thier way south. (Konoha)

The real question is, do they expect to find a new Bijuu in the country of fire, or are they going after Naruto. Cuase it has been pointed otu a few times that Naruto is the Bijuu Itachi is tasked to capture.

hitsugaya131
06-29-2006, 07:30 PM
yea, itcachi did go after naruto twice already i believe....
or maybe hidan and Kakuzu were just assigned to look for the jirrunki..

the marriage thing would be a nice change of sorts...

that brings me to another point, why do the atasuki want the jinchuuriki..
do they want to become jinchuuriki themselves
or are they a threat to their society..
or are they trying to create their own jinchuuriki by examining the ones they already have...
or do they just not like jinchuuriki.....
and they also have that three year deadline...whats the deadline for....

sry these questions just all came at once...
comments:

Anil
06-29-2006, 09:17 PM
yea, itcachi did go after naruto twice already i believe....
or maybe hidan and Kakuzu were just assigned to look for the jirrunki..

That's the general idea


the marriage thing would be a nice change of sorts...

It really would...


that brings me to another point, why do the atasuki want the jinchuuriki..
do they want to become jinchuuriki themselves

I don't think so... but who really knows?


or are they a threat to their society..
or are they trying to create their own jinchuuriki by examining the ones they already have...

Erm... I don't seen the point of creating other jinchuuriki that aren't people you have control over. And the person you can control best is yourself. So if they aren't going to make themselves into jinchuuriki, I can't really see this happening either


or do they just not like jinchuuriki.....

I don't think most of the people in Akatsuki care one way or the other. Most of them seem to be cold-hearted bastards.


and they also have that three year deadline...whats the deadline for....

It seems like it mostly has to do with Orochimaru and his time-frame for switching bodies but.... I'm not sure. There may be some other, underlying reason that Orochimaru's technique only works after three years. Some kind of cosmic principle in the Naruto universe that effects these things...

I may be overthinking this though. It's possible they simply want to implement whatever plan it is they have in place before Orochimaru gets too powerful.


sry these questions just all came at once...


Never be sorry for asking questions...:redbiggri

Draffut
06-29-2006, 10:01 PM
yea, itcachi did go after naruto twice already i believe....
or maybe hidan and Kakuzu were just assigned to look for the jirrunki..

He only went after naruto once, back when Naruto was with Jiraiya looking for Tsunade. the second encounter was just to delay them from reaching Gaara in time.

that brings me to another point, why do the atasuki want the jinchuuriki..
do they want to become jinchuuriki themselves
or are they a threat to their society..
or are they trying to create their own jinchuuriki by examining the ones they already have...
or do they just not like jinchuuriki.....

Kishi has made it a point to not tell us exactly why they want them, but many people suspect it has somethign to do with that giant statue where they extracted gaara. It seams that they store the Bijuu's in there, and an eye lights up each time they put one in. It has 9 eyes on it, and 2 were lit when they were draining gaara.

that chance of them wanting to become jinchu's themselves is very slim. Deidara has already expressed how much he despises anyone with a Bijju in them, pretty much saing that they are all wastes of life. also, if Kishi went that route with it, it would end up being relaly corny and cliche'd.

and they also have that three year deadline...whats the deadline for....
sry these questions just all came at once...

We dont know yet. hopefully time will tell.

Wanderweiss
06-29-2006, 10:14 PM
The three year deadline is basically Orochimaru's jutsu cooldown for taking over someone's body. He was desperate so he had to take over that other guys, then he had to wait 3 years to use it again.

Anil
06-29-2006, 11:27 PM
Hmmm...

I think the key to figuring out why Akatsuki wants the bijuu is fiuring out what would lure someone like Itachi or Orochimaru into joining an organization.

Their most definitely has to be individual gain involved. Itachi isn't one for charity work. I don't think he's the kind to care about world domination either. So what would convince him to join such an organization?

Power is the only thing I can think of. And not some vague promise of it either, as neither Orochimaru nor Itachi would put up with empty promises. No, it would have to be something very specific.

That sort of narrows it down. Their are different kinds of power that these people might find appealing, but we can probably guess at most of them. I still don't believe they want to become jinchuuriki. There seems to be something else involved.

Littlelegs
06-29-2006, 11:42 PM
Asuma is gonna propose to Kurenai

hitsugaya131
06-30-2006, 12:41 AM
i dont think that they want to become jirrunki too b/c deidra was calling jirrunki monsters....

i was just stating options that i heard from around...

i think its for pwr....cuz i remember in one episode is that the country is represented by militarial strength. i know that atasuki is not a country. but yeah they want militarial strength.

then why did itachi kill off his clan and then join atasuki.
i believe that there is more to this than we believe....
so many unanswered questions..

SLVR
06-30-2006, 11:00 AM
Yah guys think they will Go after Itachi's Biju? They said thiers only 1 more Jinchūrikii in the Fire country and thats Naruto?

iLeo
06-30-2006, 11:11 AM
Chapter 313.. [Done by me and friends]

[Mangatsu]

Rapid share - http://rapidshare.de/files/24530211/...atsu_.rar.html
Send Space - http://www.sendspace.com/file/dtbovh

Shinji
06-30-2006, 11:23 AM
Thank you for that Faith.

Either those Akatsuki are really strong or that Jinchuuriki was weak.

Also, I didn't really understand Hidan's jutsu or whatever that was. What's up with his hand and ceremony?

iLeo
06-30-2006, 11:29 AM
Well she was a 2 tail.. i didn't espect much of her in the first place >.<
* Sorry Nii Yugito fans =P *

And Hidans looks very religious in this manga.. prays.. (and making ceremonys) after he captures/kills someone i think.

The quote he said to Nii Yugito
" Even if i look like this, im deeply religous you know "

hitsugaya131
06-30-2006, 12:46 PM
yep, his religion requires him to slaughter....lol

He's a funny guy...

I didnt think that that jirrunki was that weak its just that she's up against two atasuki members.
Naruto lost to Itachi, and that was only one member, but he's still strong right...

Thx for the scanlation .faith

Draffut
06-30-2006, 12:58 PM
The three year deadline is basically Orochimaru's jutsu cooldown for taking over someone's body. He was desperate so he had to take over that other guys, then he had to wait 3 years to use it again.

Why would Akatsuki care about Orochimaru's body transfer. Konoha had 3 years to rescue Sasuke, but the Akatsuki thing was completely different. they said that they had 3 years to collect the Bijuu, why we dont know yet. They also said that they dont have any time limit to get orochimaru.

Yah guys think they will Go after Itachi's Biju? They said thiers only 1 more Jinchūrikii in the Fire country and thats Naruto?

They never said there was only one more in fire country, just that it was the next stop. there might be anouther Bijuu, we dont know yet. I personally agree that there isn;t, but Kishi might htrow one in.

hitsugaya131
06-30-2006, 01:04 PM
Why would Akatsuki care about Orochimaru's body transfer. Konoha had 3 years to rescue Sasuke, but the Akatsuki thing was completely different. they said that they had 3 years to collect the Bijuu, why we dont know yet. They also said that they dont have any time liit to get orochimaru.

dude, i totally agree with you...
i dont really i has anything to do with oro

i think that its another plot that MK hasnt revealed yet...
i dunno yet...
atasuki definately are up to something

SLVR
07-01-2006, 08:36 AM
They never said there was only one more in fire country, just that it was the next stop. there might be anouther Bijuu, we dont know yet. I personally agree that there isn;t, but Kishi might htrow one in.Ok well they aint say it but the Kishimoto said it (side text). And Leaf Village is in the Fire Country. So I think its Naruto since the leader made Itachi tell Sasori about Naruto when they were in the Garra rescue arc.

Cheryl
07-01-2006, 09:31 AM
Just read the latest scanlation (thanks .Faith.!) and all I can say is...Hidan is a very amusing (and HOT) Akatsuki member. XD He's so religious and all that, makes him seem like such a weird character since he's supposed to be a bad guy.

hitsugaya131
07-04-2006, 01:17 PM
hidan is pretty hot, but sasuke is still hotter....

and yes i believe it is naruto as well
not anyone else in fire country cuz the story has to go somewhere

Draffut
07-05-2006, 12:37 PM
I thought Hidan was really corny. That whole "I follow the god of evil, so anything but pure Massacure is a sin" was really silly.... I expected more from Kishi. Atleast he made one guy in Akatsuki a complete nutjob.

Seriously, these two new guys are just looking for thier second Bijuu, and the next stop is Konoha. I dont even think it is there, just a convient way to get Akatsuki to meet up with Konoha for a big battle. (To go along with what Tsunade said abotu how it's thier turn to go on the offensive.

Ok well they aint say it but the Kishimoto said it (side text). And Leaf Village is in the Fire Country. So I think its Naruto since the leader made Itachi tell Sasori about Naruto when they were in the Garra rescue arc.

The side text i saw said

"The dreadful strength of the Jinchuuriki was still easilly captured!!
Next is the Fire Country... Are the two Akatsuki members heading towards Konoha!?"

Or some variation there of between thhe 3 or 4 different ones i saw. Nothing about them going after Naruto. AL had Sasori go after Naruto cause he was conviently there. This is completely different sending them to a compltely different nation.

SLVR
07-06-2006, 05:19 AM
Ok but I was trying to say that the Jinchūrikii in the fire country is next. Which makes it Naruto

hitsugaya131
07-07-2006, 09:36 AM
he, 314 is out...
heres's the link to a RAW and translations so far....
http://mangahelpers.com/forum/index.php?topic=5684.0

spoilers:
an atasuki invasion just like i predicted, but i didnt really get about kakashi's new jutsu description and about asuma???

iLeo
07-07-2006, 10:37 AM
[Mangatsu] 314

Send space - http://www.sendspace.com/file/ibba0m
Rapid share - http://rapidshare.de/files/25177998/_Mangatsu__Naruto_314.rar.html

Cheryl
07-07-2006, 03:26 PM
Thanks for the link! :D The story's getting really good now! Naruto's finally going to start the training...and I was kind of surprised to see that Asuma is Sandaime's son o.O But yeah...they have the same surname anyway...lol. Hidan's cute.

Draffut
07-07-2006, 04:11 PM
The interesting part is that this would make Asuma either Konohamaru's father or uncle. and if he was, why was Konohamaru so much closer to the 3rd. And the sybmol with Asuma was the same as the monks that Akatsuki attacked.

Naruto's training just got pushed to the side in my mind as far as importance. That just seams like a new Rasengan/Chidori attack. blahhhh.

Cheryl
07-08-2006, 01:49 AM
o.O Really? I didn't notice Asuma's symbol. But it'll make things more interesting that way! We haven't seen any interaction between him and Konohamaru though, maybe they'll show some in the upcoming chapters. I'd like to know their relationship.

Draffut
07-08-2006, 02:01 AM
The symbol seams to mean Asuma is one of the king's 12 guardian guys. and it seams like he did stuff a long time ago to get kicked out of the village... who expected an Asuma sideplot? i sure as hell didn't.

SLVR
07-08-2006, 02:34 AM
It seems pretty clear by what I read that the ninjutsu that will be some sort of rasengan and chidori mix

Wanderweiss
07-08-2006, 02:42 AM
I've known for a long time Asuma was Sarutobi's son. I think it was in one of the bingo books that kishimoto released, but not too sure.

I hate that they cut off Kakashi just as he was about to reveal what he was going to do. :(

hitsugaya131
07-08-2006, 10:01 AM
me too...

i knew something was up with asuma and the 3rd
b/c of the databook and i thought something was fishy with the sabotaru name thing...

yea, i really dont want to see another chidori/rasengan kinda move though..
something really new is what i wanna see

Cheryl
07-08-2006, 02:23 PM
So...speculations for the next chapter? XD Hidan and Kakuzu cometh to the humble village of Konoha! And maybe face off with Asuma. You never know...

Laika
07-08-2006, 06:58 PM
Hmmm, question, where would 190ish in the eps be, in the manga?

Sora
07-08-2006, 08:00 PM
Hey, one question... I've been quite a lot time off from Naruto anime... Last time I watched it was when fillers start... Do anyone know if the filler arc has ended???

hitsugaya131
07-08-2006, 11:49 PM
nope the filler arc has not ended...believe the fillers are two seasons so far...
i believe 190 is a filler.....

defianetaly an atasuki invasion...
hidan is so cool
i see another big battle coming up

Quincy_Pride
07-09-2006, 12:34 AM
It's obivous what Kakashi's going to do. He's going to use the eye to train Naruto in another dimension.

He only needs a second to train Naruto for hours.

Since Kakashi can use MS 3 times, it's not impossible for him to sustain MS for a short while. But it will put a strain on the Sharingan as continual use of the MS renders the Sharingan useless.

Shinji
07-09-2006, 10:56 PM
Is it just me or does Kakuzu and Hidan seem really, really strong? They've defeated all their opponents with ease.

Hopefully we'll get to see some more of Asuma now.

hitsugaya131
07-09-2006, 11:06 PM
if kakashi's MS is like itachi

then he may become blind and i dont think that he would risk that to help naruto get a new move...

there is some other way i believe

Quincy_Pride
07-09-2006, 11:26 PM
I think Kakashi has a long way to go before his eye goes totally blind. But perhaps because Kakashi isn't true Uchia clan that his eye is degenerating quicker.

Itachi squints most the time because his eyesight is getting worse. But he's had his MS since he killed the clan. Kakashi has had perhaps 2 yrs to master it and has already noticed that the eye degenerates the more it's used.

Btw who is Konahanamaru's father?

getsuga_tenshou89
07-10-2006, 02:12 AM
isnt konohamarus dad the jounin that controlld inos squad? i forget his name but he calld teh last hokage before tsunade father so u can kinda make that connection

hitsugaya131
07-10-2006, 08:07 AM
He could be
Did you read the most recent chapter, it suggests that he is
ASUMA is his name

Draffut
07-10-2006, 07:03 PM
isnt konohamarus dad the jounin that controlld inos squad? i forget his name but he calld teh last hokage before tsunade father so u can kinda make that connection

If you would stop trying to type with your genitals, i would be happy to give you an answer. I think you are talkin about Asuma...

hitsugaya131
07-10-2006, 09:42 PM
I was thinking asuma cuz he kinda looks like the 3rd
He has the whole smoking thing going and he has the little beard thing
But then wouldn’t konohamaru say something…
Also asuma didn’t really seem to be that depressed at the 3rd’s funeral…
Just normal
Maybe he’s a copy genetic dna person like yamato and the 1st, but the 3rd never used those knuckle attaqck things….
Just thoughts….

Insight
07-10-2006, 10:12 PM
I was thinking asuma cuz he kinda looks like the 3rd
He has the whole smoking thing going and he has the little beard thing
But then wouldn’t konohamaru say something…
Also asuma didn’t really seem to be that depressed at the 3rd’s funeral…
Just normal
Maybe he’s a copy genetic dna person like yamato and the 1st, but the 3rd never used those knuckle attaqck things….
Just thoughts….
we don't know how realated asuma is to the 3rd he could be his step son or whatever. i don't think that he would be a clone as i don't think the third would allow want it and you wouldn't call your clone self your dad.
still a bit of a revelation and asuma ia also a monk in the temple that akatsuki just walked right through.
still it really pissed me off when kakashi said no reason to put it off any more and then they changed to asuma and ended the chapeter. bah1 another week to wait again.

hitsugaya131
07-10-2006, 10:22 PM
That’s KT for ya always leaving ya hanging….
He’s prolonged this training for a while now…
But if it’s another chidori/rasengan type move im not that excited for it…
Can anyone relate what asuma had to tell kakashi and the sabutaro clan thing…
Wat are sakura and sai doing…
I see a little former genins battling against enemies arc again….
Vs atasuki possilby

Anil
07-11-2006, 03:09 AM
....


<_<

Ummm ... in this last release, Asuma calls the Third "Dad".

So I guess that says it all.

It would be weird if Konohamaru is his son, but it makes sense.

Also, who is Konohamru's mom then? And is she still alive? And if so what's the dealwith Asuma and Kurenai?

>_>

Hidan and Kakuzu only strengthen the image of Akatsuki's power. It's kind of amazing Sakura even managed to do so well against Sasori, and Naruto managed to sneak up on Deidara.

Insanity.

hitsugaya131
07-11-2006, 03:14 AM
Wouldn’t ino, shika and chouji said something though.
And wont he have been a little more important in the 3rd’s funeral…
I think that konohamaru wouda said something.
But then again maybe not.
That’s what the readers assume asuma is right now

Anil
07-11-2006, 03:25 AM
I dunno....

It looks like Asuma left the village to become one of the Fire Daimyo's 12 Elite Guards.

Apparently he and the Third weren't really on good terms with one another. It's weird.

He may only be Konohamaru's uncle. Which would have meant that the Third had another kid.

Agh.... I don't feel like speculating. I'll just wait and see.

hitsugaya131
07-11-2006, 03:33 AM
Found this at leafninja:
Earlier in his life Asuma was apparently one of the Twelve Elite Guardians of the Fire Country Daimyou. He left Konoha behind to seek his own path but returned at some point before the series start. He still wears the "Fire" loincloth of this elite group. Asuma also shares some relationship to Sarutobi the Third Hokage, stating his feelings on the clan they share. He refers to Sandaime as "oyaji," meaning the fallen leader could be his father or his uncle.
So your right anil……
I think that there will be another plot from this sartuboi clan thing

Quincy_Pride
07-12-2006, 12:16 AM
It may be too obvious that Asuma is Konohanamru's son. But I do find it odd that Kureni follows him about all the time with no respite.

I'm wondering what he wanted to tell Kakashi. Did someone actually say he was Konohanamaru's father?

Sarutobi doesn't/didn't seem the sort to hold a grudge against anyone. Perhaps Asuma feels guilty that he never had a chance to tell his dad what he was really feeling.

hitsugaya131
07-12-2006, 12:25 AM
Maybe asuma wanted to say something about the clan issue or maybe say that he wanted to propose to kurenai b/c when kurenai walked in he said nvm
Im sure that if it wasn’t about her, then he would have told her too cuz they’re usually seen around each other a lot…

izza
07-12-2006, 01:07 AM
lol sarutobi... i didn't think that the author was actually going to make a storyline on this-- i mean, i noticed it a long time ago but just thought it was a coincidence his name was 'sarutobi' asuma

hitsugaya131
07-12-2006, 01:12 AM
I did too and I believe anyone who really likes naruto I thnk knows…
Why do you think that MK put that little piece of information in then…
To drop then in the middle of nowhere must mean that something has to come out of it..’
There’s definitely more to it or else MK wont have put that in..

Rabid_Wolverine
07-12-2006, 01:17 AM
*GASP* Well Asuma being Sandaime's son wasn't really too much of a suprise. I didn't think too much of the coincidence of their surnames at firs tbut I guess I was wrong.

hitsugaya131
07-12-2006, 01:27 AM
Another thought:
Why would the atasuki want the bijuu/jinchuuriki if they’re so weak
Just to get rid of them or to experiment on them or something…
Atasuki motives are really getting to me now

Draffut
07-12-2006, 02:24 PM
Another thought:
Why would the atasuki want the bijuu/jinchuuriki if they’re so weak
Just to get rid of them or to experiment on them or something…
Atasuki motives are really getting to me now

The Bijuu are not weak in any strech of hte imagination. Nibi lost a 2v1, and Gaara lost because of a cheap tactic by Deidara.

We have alreyad seen what Naruto can do with only 4 of his 9 tails. And Naruto/Gaara are still children, so they dont even have full use of thier Bijuu's yet.

hitsugaya131
07-12-2006, 02:26 PM
Not that weak yes,
But enough to get beaten..
Guess theyr’e not that weak, but not that spectacular yet either,
But expect naruto to be since he is the main char

Quincy_Pride
07-12-2006, 05:54 PM
I wouldn't say they are weak, we have yet to see what this move that dude makes that kills almost everything in that radius. Or somehow makes him get the upper hand in a fight.

So far all we've seen him do is spear himself and leave a symbol of his jutsu before he gets up and goes for the next one.

SLVR
07-12-2006, 06:18 PM
The Bijuu are not weak in any strech of hte imagination. Nibi lost a 2v1, and Gaara lost because of a cheap tactic by Deidara.

We have alreyad seen what Naruto can do with only 4 of his 9 tails. And Naruto/Gaara are still children, so they dont even have full use of thier Bijuu's yet.Both of them still got beat pretty easy the way it looks to me. I think Garra let his guard down and Deidra did it on purpose which means he didnt atake Garra as that big of threat. And the 2 on 1 looked pretty one sided to me even when the guy awas praying

Insight
07-12-2006, 10:04 PM
arn't the one and 2 tailed bijuu much weaker then the 9 tails so it makes sense that it takes naruto to have 4 tails to be equal to orochimaru and those 2 akatsuki members are both as hard as orochimaru so them bieng beaten isn't to surprising.
and yeah gaara lost becaue he had a lack of fighting experience to allow him to analyise his opponents weaknesses and this is because he is still a child.

Rabid_Wolverine
07-13-2006, 12:14 AM
I think the power of a jinchuuriki is limited because the bijuu is sealed inside a human body. Manybe if the seal was released the full destructive force of the bijuu can be released.

Quincy_Pride
07-13-2006, 12:26 AM
Wasn't the last person they got in full symbiotic relationship with their inner demon?

She could call it at will and it would do what she wanted.

hitsugaya131
07-13-2006, 12:45 AM
I think the power of a jinchuuriki is limited because the bijuu is sealed inside a human body. Manybe if the seal was released the full destructive force of the bijuu can be released.
If that happened then the demon would take ova and the jiruunki wouldn’t know what was happening…kinda like naruot…
The last one seemed to have pretty good control ova hers…..
Naruto has yet to go 9 tails….its been about 300 chapters and naruto has just released 4 tails…..that must mean a long time to we figure it out then at this rate…

Anil
07-13-2006, 01:13 PM
...

and 315 raw has been released.

The translation is a work in progress though.

Er... you can get it at mangahelpers.com

I'll try to get the translation once it's complete.

Draffut
07-13-2006, 01:27 PM
Put it up once it's finished... no point in half a translation...

Anil
07-13-2006, 01:32 PM
Indeed...


But OMFG!!

Naruto can do 1000 times the amount of training he would do usually!!!

And he learns pretty quickly without this method.

So.... 0_0

Naruto has found the perfect method to learn any technique.

omg

he could read a 1000 page book/ really long scroll in sections, and put the information together in his head!!!

OMG

Kakashi has found the way to turn Naruto into a super genius....

hitsugaya131
07-13-2006, 01:39 PM
wait 5 minutes and the whole translation is done..
its more awesome then it already is...

hitsugaya131
07-13-2006, 01:44 PM
First of all sry for double posting but the translation takes up a lot of space and I don’t really want to press a link every time to refer to it………refers to sartecks ideas of double posting….

Draffut: Sry about that…
But some is better than nothing right?
Don’t get mad at me though…

Here’s the full translation and let me just say the MK has gotten back on track cuz this seemed like a great chapter with the training and all….

Page 1:
Title: Advanced Training!
Side: ANYONE would have said, "Say what?" Kakashi's ultra high-level lecture begins!

Kakashi: Your Mass Shadow Clones.
Naruto: Say what?
Kakashi: That's it, your Mass Shadow Clone technique.
Naruto: That's WHAT?

Kakashi: That's how we're going to do this in a short amount of time.
Naruto: Okay...but how?

Page 2:
Kakashi: I knew it...
All right, I'll explain, but you'd better listen carefully.
Naruto: Please make it as simple as possible!
Kakashi: Yeah, yeah.

You already know that the difference between regular and Shadow clones
is that you make an actual body rather than an illusion.
Labels: Regular Clone / Shadow Clone
Kakashi: In other words, the jutsu is a complete copy of you.

[Based on later dialog, the second possible translation was definitely wrong and has been removed.]
Kakashi: Although I can't produce as many as you,
I can use the Shadow Clone jutsu as well, so I know the effect it has on the user.
Since you use it constantly, you've probably noticed.
Naruto: Maybe...what is it?

Page 3:
Kakashi: When you release the jutsu, any experience and knowledge gained by the clones
will transfer back to the original body.
Naruto: I thought you were gonna make this simple.
Kakashi: So you haven't noticed, eh...
Naruto: I don't get what you're saying!

Kakashi: All right...
Let's both make a shadow clone, then.

Shadow Clone Technique!
[I totally know what's gonna happen, you should too]

Page 4:
Kakashi: Okay! Clones over here, originals over there.
The clones are going to head into the woods a little ways.
Naruto, have yours follow mine.

Page 5:
Bunshin Kakashi: Okay, the two of us are in the woods
so the originals can't see us.

We're going to have a quick Rock-Paper-Scissors match.
Bunshin Naruto: Why?
Bunshin Kakashi: Just do it.
Rock, Paper, Scissors, SHOOT! [Substitute however you say it here :P ]

Naruto: What're they doing?
Kakashi: You'll know in a second.

Page 6:
Bunshin Naruto: YES! I WIN!
Bunshin Kakashi: Okay, release the jutsu now.
Bunshin Naruto: Right! [ ]

SFX: BING!
Kakashi: So?
You know what they were doing now?

Page 7:
Naruto: I beat you in rock-paper-scissors.
Kakashi: You get it now?
Anything a Shadow Clone learns or experiences goes back to the original body when the jutsu's released.

Naruto: Yeah...
I guess I just never noticed until now...

Kakashi: Obviously, this attribute makes Shadow Clones ideal for recon missions, observing an enemy's camp,
infiltration, and information gathering.

Naruto: Right, but
What does that have to do with speeding up or training.

Kakashi: I guess I'll have to explain THAT, too...
Yeesh...Jiraiya-sama, how the hell did you ever teach this kid a jutsu like Rasengan? Unbelievable...

Page 8:
Naruto: C'mon, c'mon!
Kakashi: If two of your clones go through the exact same training,
then you end up getting twice the benefit from it.
Naruto: Yeah yeah!

Kakashi: To put it another way, if you have two clones do the same training,
you accomplish the same amount in half the time.
Naruto: ...and with three, in a third...
Kakashi: And with a thousand, in one-thousandth.

Page 9:
Naruto: Now I get it....
Kakashi: Something that would take two days by yourself would only take one with a clone alongside you...
With a thousand clones, something that would normally take you twenty years would take a week. [Wow, now we finally get why Kage Bunshin was labelled a forbidden jutsu...it's sick!]

Naruto: AH-HA!!!!
NOW I get it!

Kakashi: We're going to start work on chakra nature manipulation. While we train, you're to have at least 1000 clones working with you at all times.
Naruto: YES SIR! !

Page 10:
Naruto: So THIS is why you're so strong, Kakashi-sensei!
You've been training like this all your life, huh!

Kakashi: Actually, I've never trained like this once.
Naruto: Huh? Why? You can do Shadow Clones too!
Kakashi: Like I said, I don't have your stamina or your level of chakra,
so I can't maintain the jutsu for that long.

Since it splits the chakra evenly across the clones,
ninja with low chakra capacities, like me, can't use it to its full potential.

Naruto: Huh, really?
So I have more chakra than you?

Page 11:
Kakashi: You have at least TWICE as much!
Naruto: For real??
Man, I'm AWESOME!

Kakashi: And if Yamato keeps the Nine-tails in check,
it could be 100 times more.

???: That's why you're the only one who can handle this kind of training, Naruto.

Page 12:
Naruto: Captain Yamato!
Yamato: Kakashi-san asked me to help out with your training.
You'll need me to help control the Nine-tails' chakra.

Naruto: Thanks a bunch!
Kakashi: Let's get started with the chakra nature manipulation training...
Naruto: Right!

Page 13:
Kakashi: There are five basic types of chakra used for jutsu.
Naruto: Just five?

Kakashi: Fire, Wind, Water, Lightning, and Earth.
These five elements are the foundation of all jutsu,
and the reason the Five Great Countries are named as they are.

Naruto: Huh...cool...
Yamato: Most people's chakra naturally lean towards a certain nature...
The Uchia clan, for example, were full of people with an affinity to fire,
thus, they were exceptionally skilled with fire element jutsu.

Page 14:
Kakashi: Those matched with wind are good with Wind Element jutsu,
Lightning, with Lightning Element.
Chidori is a Lightning-Element jutsu, for example.

Naruto: So Sasuke's matched with both Fire and Lightning, then?
Kakashi: You , on the other hand, are a zero.
We have no idea which nature your chakra leans towards.
So we're going to check with these cards.

Page 15:
SFX: Crunch!
Kakashi: If you're Lightning-natured, the paper gets crumpled.
Wind-natured, it gets cut in half.
Fire, it burns.
Water, it gets wet.
Earth, it turns to dust. Page 16:
Yamato: It's a uniquel paper that reacts to even the slightest amount of chakra.
It's made trees that are fed and nutured with chakra for a long time.

Channel some of your chakra into it and we'll know its nature immediately.
Naruto: Okay....
HAA!

Kakashi: Huh!

Page 17:
Kakashi: Well!
"Wind nature manipulation" training it is, then.

Side: Naruto's nature is that of the wind! With his ability to easily use the "hidden" power of Shadow Clones, what new jutsu will he make?!
The training begins!!

Bottom: An ominous shadow falls over the Leaf! Is it Akatsuki? Next time: "Penance!"

[FIN]
::bows::

Let me just say ofcourse its wind.,,,the fourth and the flash technique
Awesome chap this time props for mangahelpers and MK

Draffut
07-13-2006, 01:48 PM
I dotn get mad, just delete your first one there. no point in having it twice.

And now we found out naruto is wind based. very interesting. I was always wondering about that, and suprised becuase most of the side nations seam to be water based (rain and waterfall come to mind)

hitsugaya131
07-13-2006, 01:54 PM
Deletion done. ^_^
Also the preview is pretty foreshadowing….
I see an interruption of the training later on…not next chapter though.
It could be atasuki or oro….cuz they have to fit in orochimaru sometime..
Have a feeling that the new jutsu is combined with that jutsu and I believe it is closely related to the 4ths move somehow…

Anil
07-13-2006, 01:58 PM
hmmmmm....

Well, well, well. Naruto's chakra is wind based, huh?

Damn. I would have expected Fire or Earth.

But then this sort of goes hand in hand with Rasengan looking like a little hurricane.

How interesting.

I mean did you really believe that Naruto would be wind affiliated? Lol.

This is getting really cool.

I'm going to enjoy this a training arc.

CAN'T WAIT to see what kind of technique he comes up with. Damn... so much fun.

Draffut
07-13-2006, 02:28 PM
I found it very approprate, as Naruto is somehow related to Yondaime, and he seams very Wind based, from the Gaiden. especially Hirashin.

Anil
07-13-2006, 02:39 PM
I found it very approprate, as Naruto is somehow related to Yondaime, and he seams very Wind based, from the Gaiden. especially Hirashin.


If it turns out that Yondaime's technique is wind based I'll understand, but almost nothing about the technique suggests it's wind based (other than the blinding speed)

Also, is it possible to have two affinities?

I dunno, although it is really easy for me to imagine Yondaime being wind based. For some strange reason.

Do you suppose this affinity business will affect some of the other characters later on?

Damn, this whole business is getting me really excited. Can't wait to see what Naruto comes up wtih.

Also, I've realized something else. It's possible that Naruto could come up with multiple techniques. Each based off of various compilations of all the experience he'll gain. Sort of like with Jyuuken, where one basic skill results in a whole choir of different abilities.

He could certainly pull it off.

Edit-

Man I just realized how this one little thing will forever impact the way we look at Naruto (the character, not the manga) from now on.

hitsugaya131
07-13-2006, 02:59 PM
Yep wow anil your really excited lol
This was an awesome chapter…
And I hope this stops some of the naruto is so boring now junk….
But yea…Sasuke’s two affinites lighting and fire…
And I think naruto could pull that off
Cuz I wont be hard with that whole bushin thing
We kept thing MS but I forgot about bunshin moves.
Im excited too anil….
There are so many more possiblilites now with this…
Any other character aniffites ideas…

Anil
07-13-2006, 03:13 PM
LOL

I was excited when I first read the raw despite the fact that I couldn't understand anything...lol

I'm betting Sakura is either Water or Earth...

I have no idea what the hell Sai is.

But I'm not sure it will even matter. It doesn't seem most shinobi we've seen even bother with their affnity. Look at Shino's clan or Kiba's clan.

I think it's more something that shinobi without clan guidance use to even out their abilities. Look at Kakashi. His dad died when he was young so he had to figure stuff out on his own.

This is the same for Naruto I would guess. It's something to supplement his basic abilities and even him out against specialist shinobi. That's why i'm excited. People are always complaining about how Naruto' Kyuubi use is overpowered. This sort of brings him back to a normal playing field while still giving him something to work with.

Kishimoto hit the jackpot with this.

orochimaru7810
07-13-2006, 05:50 PM
i still think its amazing how he can turn 20yrs of training into one week i wish i could do that id be like arnold in no time lol

hitsugaya131
07-13-2006, 10:15 PM
A scanaltion by Jinchuuriki
http://rapidshare.de/files/25761206/Naruto_315__Jinchuuriki_.zip.html
enjoy, but wait for faith’s cuz his are great….

Quincy_Pride
07-13-2006, 11:57 PM
I'm betting Naruto has more afinity with all of the elements. Naruto still doesn't know the in's and out's of chakra and manipulations. I'm guessing he can manipulate more than one element.

Sasuke is unique with lighting because Chidori can only be controlled by someone with the sharingan as the eye makes this concentrated chakra stable and controllable.

Because Naruto has trained hard with Rasengan he probably only knows how to channel wind. I'm betting he can do more.

Vyse
07-14-2006, 12:22 AM
I don't really know if I'm ready to think that Sasuke is a lightning-user just yet, as I'm still confused conserning Chidori and Raikiri.

Even though they're seemingly the same technique, I think they're of different nature. My theory is that chidori is how the jutsu would work for everyone, even if they're not lightning-users, but either one of the others. Raikiri, on the other hand, sports some serious voltage. My reason for believing this is that they look different in the anime (pretty much identical in the manga though), they sort of "generate" in a different manner. We know that the Uchiha-clan are fire-users, but who are we to say that anyone can obtain more than one affinity just like that?

There's nothing original with this either. Hunter X Hunter did the same thing ages ago, and it would have been funny if they had to use the "water-test" to find their affinity! If Naruto is anything like Kurapica, then I guess his affinity is one of the few who can change due to his two different chacra's. Then again, the cursed seal could do the same thing to Sasuke, giving him the power of lightning to make his Chidori level-up until it reaches the power of the Raikiri..

Note!! This is just my theory! I don't want to start a flame-war with this, I'm just stating my own thoughts.

hitsugaya131
07-14-2006, 12:30 AM
No o