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Hits
04-01-2007, 08:33 PM
The library waiting list is going to be long as hell. I remember I had to wait for 3 months when the fifth one came out.

Guy
04-01-2007, 11:28 PM
I can wait patiently for the last book... not in any hurry. However, I know some punk is gonna spoil the whole story the day the book is released. They did that in the fifth book. The second the book was released to the public, some dude on the internet revealed it was Sirius Black who died.

adorkable
04-02-2007, 12:07 AM
Within HOURS (perhaps even minutes) of the books release, someone is bound to post up onto the internet what happens, I can tell you that. People who are extreme Harry Potter fans camp out, buy the book, READ it within minutes/hours and instantly post the whole story onto the internet.

Wanderweiss
04-02-2007, 12:09 AM
Thats why I take my computer, leave it at a friends house, and sit like a hermit until my book gets delivered. And read it straight through until I finish it.

davidn15
04-02-2007, 12:10 AM
i don't look through any hp websites until after i finish the book to avoid that problem

adorkable
04-02-2007, 12:11 AM
Hahaha. Even if you don't read it, a friend will probably read it off the internet and tell you. Isolate yourself from the world, people! :P

I remember when I bought the sixth book. I was with my brother, and because we were so excited, we randomly flipped to a page. We read Dumbly died. :(

davidn15
04-02-2007, 12:16 AM
i'm the biggest hp fan among my friends so its not an issue. plus i lock myself in my room without food til i finish the book. it gets to the point where i have to be yelled at to stop reading(i have been yelled at for reading too much in one sitting)

Guy
04-02-2007, 12:20 AM
Yes, the second the book is released, I'm gonna isolate myself from the rest of the world until I finish the book.

davidn15
04-02-2007, 12:22 AM
i share a room so isolation is limited

Thelindra
04-02-2007, 12:36 AM
lol, we have all become hermits just becuz of a book....but its worth it :p

The library waiting list is going to be long as hell. I remember I had to wait for 3 months when the fifth one came out.
its better at my area, i waited for one week or so..

Guy
04-02-2007, 12:45 AM
Why not? Being a hermit is fun. You have no worries, especially if you're reading Harry Potter. ^^

Thelindra
04-02-2007, 01:03 AM
okie, so all of us promise that we keep spoilers in spoilers tags when the book comes out eh? in case some of read rather slow ^^

Wanderweiss
04-02-2007, 01:06 AM
Hm, I'll agree to that. Although I'd probably be so excited I'll want to talk about it!

Thelindra
04-02-2007, 01:21 AM
than post trailers >=3

they are the kind of "spoilers" that increase excitement so much that u wanna know what happened.

Wanderweiss
04-02-2007, 01:32 AM
:P Will do. I'll refrain from mentioning anything that would potentially ruin it for someone.

Guy
04-02-2007, 02:18 AM
Yes, please put everything in spoiler tags! Otherwise, I will hunt you in your nightmares. jk

Hits
04-02-2007, 05:46 AM
I usually skim through the last few chapters before I start reading to resolve that issue. Kinda.

Wanderweiss
04-02-2007, 06:35 AM
...I can't believe I thought it was Ron holding Gryffindor's sword on the cover of the UK Kids edition. Its actually a House Elf (Presumably Dobby, however it might be Kreacher?) Hm..

raisins
04-02-2007, 10:12 AM
hey, that was an interesting book cover :p
so far the books we bought has always been the kids version, but doesn't makes much diff huh? the adult version covers just makes it looks more mature and dark >_<

edit: squints, oh yah... there's actually an house elf clinging on harry's back. i was thinking it i might more probably be dobby rather than kreacher too :P

Cheryl
04-02-2007, 10:24 AM
the back in time part of Harry potter 3...
Well anyways, I'm gonna wait for the dutch version (wich I think always has the coolest cover along with the Uk Children version)
Philosper stone:
http://www.harrypotter.nl/images/cover_boek1.jpg
Chamber of secrets:
http://www.harrypotter.nl/images/cover_boek2.jpg
The prisoner of azkaban:
http://www.harrypotter.nl/images/cover_boek3.jpg
The goblet of fire:
http://www.harrypotter.nl/images/cover_boek4.jpg
the order of the Phoenix:
http://www.harrypotter.nl/images/cover_boek5.jpg
The halfblood prince:
http://www.harrypotter.nl/images/cover_boek6.jpg

Omg, those covers are awesome.

The Kids' version of the 7th book looks...colourful >__>

raisins
04-02-2007, 10:31 AM
awesome indeed ^^
so much better than the normal ones i have here >_<

adorkable
04-02-2007, 12:21 PM
Meh, I'm fine with the cover designs. :P
But I bet that there are heaps of other designs that'd look much better as the covers.

Who decides the cover designs anyway? It is JK?

Thelindra
04-02-2007, 05:07 PM
Who decides the cover designs anyway? It is JK?
must be JK, since most of the covers have a little bti of "spoiler" in it....

Wanderweiss
04-02-2007, 06:41 PM
Its up to the artist I assume. They get to read the book first, and make the cover art base upon their impression. At least thats how I've always thought it was done. I can't really imagine JKR having 3 different cover designs in mind. :\

Mercurius
04-02-2007, 07:23 PM
Hmm, dunno.

Dun really care really, as long as it looks cool (wich the Dutch ones absolutely do...srry people...it's true)

Kirai God
04-02-2007, 11:25 PM
I love Harry Potter, and i'm really anxious to get ne 7th and last book. However, i would like to comment something about the next film "Harry Potter and the order of the phoenix". I don't know if anyone had noticed this before, but in the trailer they seem to be flying on the brush, and not on the threstals, like the book says. I find that really disappointing, don't you?

Hits
04-03-2007, 01:12 AM
No, I think the broom scene in the trailer is when the Order escorts Harry to Sirius house. He is seen pretty happy at the last scene, which I doubt he is if he knews Sirius is in trouble.

Wanderweiss
04-03-2007, 03:57 AM
Even if they didn't show the Thestrals I'd understand. Its probably along the same lines as House Elves, which cost a fortune to put into the movie. The Thestrals haven't been mentioned yet, and I don't think they've ever shown them going to the castle by Carriage, have they?

Thelindra
04-03-2007, 01:20 PM
woot~ to feed my fandom of harry potter, i brought this book called "What Will Happen in Harry Potter 7"

its by mugglenet.com people.

gonna read it later when i got the time and energy...

adorkable
04-03-2007, 01:54 PM
I use to visit MuggleNet every single day. I was a regular there at their forums.
CosForums.com
Very organised, imo.
I haven't logged onto there in a very long time though.


edit.

Oooh, that reminds me. This time last year (April fools'), they shut down the main page on the forums and said something on the lines of:

The power station in America, where CosForums is hosted, blew up (brokedown?) yesterday and lost all data... etc, etc.

(but in much more believable text.)

And so many people fell for it. It was hilarious. :P

Mercurius
04-03-2007, 02:37 PM
I wanna read Harry Potter 7...*cries*

I hope Serius comes back...

adorkable
04-03-2007, 02:53 PM
I don't. Lol. I dislike Sirius for some reason. :P

Guy
04-04-2007, 01:35 AM
I feel bad for Harry when he lost Sirius. Now he has no family except for the Dursleys.

M-50
04-04-2007, 03:09 PM
True say but he has the weasley's as a surrogate family so he is doing okay there. But what do you think about harry, hermione, ron and ginny going off to find voldemort? do you reckon he can win? or will he lose?
When the book comes out are you going to queue up to get it or have you already reserved it? I am reserving it today. I cant wait for it.

Thelindra
04-04-2007, 05:18 PM
one thing sure it, voldy-chan will die, no way JKR can end the series with him alive.

He will have a lot of help, from the order, friends, and maybe even Snape (and yea i am placing my bet that Snape is good)

Mercurius
04-04-2007, 07:21 PM
from a realistic view....NO, if we look at Harry's Mediocre performance up until (Hermione is much better)...than NO

But most likely he'll get some sudden urge of improvement in this one...as we already got a glimp of in part six with Sectumsempra (snape was bedazzled, cool word, that harry could use that spell)

I'm gambling that Harry will fight Voldy in a more dark way...like with Ichigo's Ogichi, Narutó's Kyuubi...(a??) harry that will go and use more darker spells

We already got little glimpses that he will: Harry totally freakin out in 5 constantly against his friends, sectumsempra in 6, his one and only talent for Defence against the Dark Arts, his foul play against the Slytherin match in 6 where he yelled at the seeker of them, his similarities to Voldy, due to scar, his badass temper in 5 against Dumbledore...and others that I might've forgotten

Guy
04-07-2007, 01:18 AM
Dude, if Harry, Ron, Ginny, and Hermoine were all it takes to defeat Voldemort... seriously, Harry Potter would have a very crappy ending. Voldemort is like invincible. He'd probably use Aveda Kadeva (or w/e) and kill them all in one second.

Shezmu
04-14-2007, 06:19 PM
i agree with guyklc,It would be so lame if Harry, Ron, Hermione and Ginny would beat Voldemort.. Voldemort is Like the most powerful wizard ever Harry has already escaped him waaay too many times i think he'll die in 7, and so will Voldemort-sama. And Hopefully Ginny gets killed too i really dislike her character XD

Cheryl
04-14-2007, 06:43 PM
I doubt Ginny will be killed.

Voldy will die. Whether Harry will die or not, is another question. But one cannot live while the other is still alive, like what the prophecy said...or something like that. Harry might live. But first, he'll have to destroy all the Horcruxes in order to make Voldy mortal again.

Ohh, remember when Wormtail's life was spared by Harry in POA? Dumbledore then told Harry that one day he would be glad that he spared Wormtail's life. This role of Worm's might come into play in the last book, I think. Not that I'm expecting him to save Harry at the end since he's too cowardly for that, but I'm thinking he may help Harry in one way or another.

...or maybe I'm just reading too much into it ._.

Guy
04-14-2007, 07:04 PM
Maybe Wormtail will do something, but I doubt it. He's too cowardly to rebel against Voldemort. Without Dumbledore, I really have no idea how Harry will take on Voldemort. It seems like he's screwed.

Btw, at the end of the sixth book, did Harry really say he's not going back to Hogwarts?

Cheryl
04-14-2007, 07:08 PM
Yeah...he's decided to track down the Horcruxes instead of returning to Hogwarts. And Ron and Hermione said that they're going with him...but after Bill and Fleur's wedding.

Guy
04-14-2007, 07:15 PM
Oh yeah, I forgot about Bill and Fleur. I hope there won't be a huge chapter on their wedding. >.< It would be a waste of time, and I'd find it boring.

Cheryl
04-14-2007, 07:26 PM
Mm I dunno...maybe Ron's parents will find out about Harry's plans during the wedding and try to prevent him from being 'rash'...crucial stuff might happen then, you never know.

Guy
04-14-2007, 07:28 PM
Lol, or maybe Voldemort will invade the wedding... and then all the wizards there will team up and pwn him! j/k.

Cheryl
04-14-2007, 07:30 PM
Lawl! In the eyes of a Harry Potter fanfic writer...that sort of stuff would be wonderful to write about <3

Mm, JK Rowling never writes about stuff that isn't important...everything she writes about is interlinked one way or another :P

Guy
04-14-2007, 07:33 PM
Everything except the Harry and Cho relation thing, yeah, everything she writes is important to the storyline.

Cheryl
04-14-2007, 07:44 PM
In order to grow up, little Harry has to learn from a nasty relationship! I quite liked Cho from JK's early descriptions of her...but after she hooked up with Harry... >__>;;

Guy
04-14-2007, 10:08 PM
I thought it was a waste of time... I don't see how Harry grow up from that kind of a relationship.

Cheryl
04-15-2007, 04:42 AM
He realises he doesn't really like Cho, he hooks up with Ginny, end of story. <3

He's a boy with hormones...

~*StÓÑy RèL0ÂÐeD™
04-15-2007, 05:13 AM
Everything except the Harry and Cho relation thing, yeah, everything she writes is important to the storyline.

unless she got Cho to apear in the end to do something... after all, maybe she wants to get revenge or sumthing, coz Cedric was killed

Cheryl
04-15-2007, 05:33 AM
I can't remember...did Cho stop attending the DA (Dumbledore's Army) meetings? If she did then she'll just be a liability to everyone...

VinSRedMoon
04-15-2007, 06:19 AM
i tink harry must die so voldermort will not live

Guy
04-15-2007, 06:48 AM
I can't remember...did Cho stop attending the DA (Dumbledore's Army) meetings? If she did then she'll just be a liability to everyone...

Hmm... that's a good point. Well, I still think Cho's useless because after their break up, Cho's name was mentioned only once or twice in the sixth book.

Cheryl
04-15-2007, 06:50 AM
I doubt she'd be brave enough to take the Death Eaters on anyway. I think she joined DA in the first place only because Harry was leading the meetings.

Guy
04-15-2007, 06:52 AM
Wait, Cho graduated! She's one year older than Harry! That means no more Cho!

And yes, Cho is not the strong type. The fact that she sobs all over her boyfriend's death proved that she is a weakling; what's more, she uses Harry as a scapegoat!

VinSRedMoon
04-15-2007, 06:55 AM
wat if the last bk mention tat cho flew in to shield from voldermort's spell..
" Harry, I love u...." haha

Guy
04-15-2007, 06:55 AM
Lol...? I can't really see her doing that...

Cheryl
04-15-2007, 06:56 AM
=O

I totally forgot that Cho is older than Harry! In that case, I doubt Cho would come back to help anyway...Neville would sooner help than she. =__=

Guy
04-15-2007, 06:57 AM
Yup! That measn I'm right! Cho really is useless to the Harry Potter series!

Wow, I should start an anti-Cho fc. That is, if there isn't one already.

Cheryl
04-15-2007, 06:59 AM
I doubt there's an anti-Cho FC yet XDD

Wow, this discussion has made me realise how much I dislike Cho after all...

Guy
04-15-2007, 07:00 AM
Yes!! That means I've done my job! Guys, you do realize that Cho is the first "useless" thing in Harry Potter? And from the looks of it, she's probably the only useless thing in Harry Potter.

VinSRedMoon
04-15-2007, 07:06 AM
Cho is just a small fry...haha...Hermonie is the one for Harry....Go! Hermonie

Cheryl
04-15-2007, 07:09 AM
Lol, you really are anti-Cho aren't you? :p

There're so many characters in the Harry Potter universe, I wonder how Rowling will wrap everything up...like what happens to Dobby, Lavender, the minor characters...Lupin, Tonks. The Dursleys. Neville's grandmother. She has to tie up so many loose ends..

EDIT: Nah, it's foregone that the pairings are Harry/Ginny and Ron/Hermione. Rowling said it herself XD

VinSRedMoon
04-15-2007, 07:18 AM
Ya...I am:p....hope the series dun stop here...i wanna c harry's after school life..."harry potter and the overload work in office" the next tittle...haha...

Cheryl
04-15-2007, 07:22 AM
I would too...too bad Rowling said she won't be doing any sequels =(

Guess it's up to fanfic writers to continue where she ended ^^

VinSRedMoon
04-15-2007, 07:27 AM
haha...agree...but in the meantime...I lookin forward to the last bk

adorkable
04-15-2007, 07:27 AM
I would honestly be sick of the books if she continued making sequels. I probably wouldn't read them.

guyklc - Lol. We've had this discussion before, about Cho's role in the series. :P

VinSRedMoon
04-15-2007, 07:29 AM
[QUOTE=adorkable]I would honestly be sick of the books if she continued making sequels. I probably wouldn't read them.

y? her stories are good

Cheryl
04-15-2007, 07:32 AM
On the off-chance that Rowling actually decides to do sequels (though I'm certain she won't) I'd read them out of interest. XD

There was a Cho discussion here before? I've really been absent from this thread for ages...

adorkable
04-15-2007, 08:19 AM
http://forums.bleachportal.net/showpost.php?p=1277493&postcount=1116
And page 75 onwards. :)

Hehehe.

I'd probably end up reading the sequels, if there were any written, but maybe after a while when I have nothing else to read.

Cheryl
04-15-2007, 08:29 AM
...wow, guyklc REALLY hates Cho. :p

I'll turn to fanfiction once I'm done with the last book...lots of fans would've started their own sequels by then, lol.

Shezmu
04-15-2007, 12:45 PM
there probably won't be any sequels, i read somewere that in the last chapter, Rowling will describe the further lives of the main characters (the ones who will survive, that is). I read it on a pretty reliable site under ''book 7 facts'' So we will al know what they'll do with their lives. No fanfics i guess

Mercurius
04-15-2007, 12:49 PM
+...she said she'll kill off of some of the more important guys so sequels qould be...either very very hard or impossible..


I hope Harry dies :p

Cheryl
04-15-2007, 12:56 PM
o.o

Poor Harry...I hope he lives =/

I'm sure fanfic writers will still find a way to write stuff...is always possible to do it :P

Mercurius
04-15-2007, 01:10 PM
I mean...U can just use the harry Potter world as a base...or Revive them if U wish...

Btw Cher: I like U're grimmy avvy :p

Cheryl
04-15-2007, 01:31 PM
Thanks :P Springy hip-hop dancer Grimmy! <3

I wouldn't want Harry to die, but...I don't really mind him dying since he isn't one of my favourite characters in the book XD

latara
04-15-2007, 01:44 PM
It started off as a young children's book... though if you ask me it's become more and more focused on older readers as it goes along. She probably wouldn't be sadistic enough to kill him off. My fave character was Sirius though... and he died.

Still. I'm finished mourning. Seriously, for about a week after that book came out, I was depressed. I mean, Sirius was the best character... and she killed him.

... But now I have this new theory that the RAB who discovered the locket-horcrux thing that dumbledore and harry went to get... is Black's brother!!! Remember, who was supposed to have been killed by Voldemort?

But, no, she couldn't possibly kill of Harry. Unless, she wanted no popularity as a kids' author for the rest of her life.

Cheryl
04-15-2007, 01:53 PM
Regulus Black. I think that he is RAB too! Because of this piece of evidence:

In the Norwegian edition of Harry Potter, the Black family name is 'Svaart' and the initials on the note changed from RAB to RAS. In the Dutch version, the name is 'Zwarts', and the initials are RAZ. In the English edition, the name is 'Black', and the initials are RAB.

He was a Death Eater and knew Voldemort. He's got to be the one. I doubt JK Rowling will introduce a new character whom we've never heard of before in the last book.

I was sad when Sirius died too! He was an awesome character =(

Kenken
04-15-2007, 02:01 PM
i think rowling said that sirius brother isn't RAB in an interview

Wanderweiss
04-15-2007, 02:15 PM
I think you're wrong...

Mercurius
04-15-2007, 02:19 PM
I'm pretty sure as well that R.A.Z is Regulus...(see Cher's post)

But we never got any conformation that serius actually really is dead...however...from Dumby we did get that

Shezmu
04-15-2007, 02:20 PM
She never said that, i think.

Previously mentioned , Anelli suggested to Rowling that R.A.B. could stand for Regulus [A.] Black. Regulus, the younger brother of Harry's godfather Sirius Black, has been mentioned in passing but has not had any plot significance yet.[3] The following conversation ensued:


Rowling: "Well, I think that would be, umm, a fine guess.".

Melissa: "Forgive me if I'm remembering incorrectly, but was Regulus the one who was murdered by Voldemort?"

Rowling: "Well Sirius said he wouldn't have been because he wasn't important enough, remember?"

Melissa: "But that doesn’t have to be true, if [R.A.B.] is writing Voldemort a personal note."

Rowling: "That doesn't necessarily show that Voldemort killed him, personally, but Sirius himself suspected that Regulus got in a little too deep. Like Draco. He was attracted to it, but the reality of what it meant was way too much to handle."

(source : wikipedia) i think cherlye's theory about the name in different languages is correct, I think it's not even an issue anymore wether he is Sirius' brother or not its quite obvious =)

Kenken
04-15-2007, 02:21 PM
oh ok, then i got it wrong lol haha
my bad

Cheryl
04-15-2007, 02:22 PM
She did? That sucks... >:

EDIT: Oh. Yay so that theory isn't completely invalid then! \o/

Guy
04-15-2007, 07:18 PM
Lol, there is nothing wrong with me hating Cho. She takes up so much paper, and yet, in the end, she's utterly useless.

As for Regulus, he is a member of the Black family; it said so in the fifth book, I believe.

Kenken
04-16-2007, 04:40 AM
Lol, there is nothing wrong with me hating Cho. She takes up so much paper, and yet, in the end, she's utterly useless.
As for Regulus, he is a member of the Black family; it said so in the fifth book, I believe.

yeah, regulus is serius' younger brother, we already agreed on that lol

as for cho, yeah i agree, unless she plays an important role in the 7th book

Guy
04-16-2007, 04:57 AM
So... how thick do you reckon the last book would be?

Cheryl
04-16-2007, 03:49 PM
She said in an interview that the book will be shorter than OOTP, though she's not guaranteeing it.

Here's an interesting fact...the last word in Book 7 is 'scar'. o.O

Kenken
04-16-2007, 11:57 PM
''then ginny realized something was different in harry's face, that something was missing, it was the scar''

:)

if that turns out to be the last sentence of the wook, i'll be scare for life >_<

analog
04-17-2007, 12:25 AM
The page count has already been released.

Page count: 784 (US), 608 (UK)

Guy
04-17-2007, 01:51 AM
What? A 176 page difference? Wow... that's weird.

adorkable
04-17-2007, 10:25 AM
Text size... page size... all factors that contribute to the amount of pages.

Meh.
It's good to hear that it won't draaaaag on that much.

Wanderweiss
04-17-2007, 11:32 AM
Are you telling me you wouldn't sit through like, a 1000 page Harry Potter book? I would :P

Mercurius
04-17-2007, 04:09 PM
Hmm..Dunno...that's awfull long time no sleep :p

adorkable
04-17-2007, 04:15 PM
Hahahaa, maybe I would, but I'd be awfully tired. I reckon anyway. :P
I'm just too lazy. Hehehe.

Mercurius
04-17-2007, 04:22 PM
Well...about the book

I hope Ron dies...

adorkable
04-17-2007, 04:25 PM
:O

I hope Harry dies!
But Voldy has to die in this book.

Mercurius
04-17-2007, 04:37 PM
I hope Harry Assumes the Position of Dark lord when he kills Voldy...and then commits suicide or gets killed by Either....Draco, Hermione, Ginny or get raped by Snape :Domo

adorkable
04-17-2007, 04:41 PM
O_o

Lol.

Whatever happened to "and they all lived happily ever after"?

Mercurius
04-17-2007, 04:43 PM
...this ain't a fairytale...it's a story...that has people dying, crying, lying...and killing

Cheryl
04-17-2007, 04:48 PM
Lol! But Rowling said she wouldn't kill Ron in an interview.

Last book = Darkest book

Mercurius
04-17-2007, 04:50 PM
But still...i'd be happy if she did...he's an even worse wizard than harry

adorkable
04-17-2007, 04:51 PM
I'm really no good with sarcasm, am I?

XD

I'm glad this book is going to be dark.

Poison Ivy
04-17-2007, 04:53 PM
ok srry to barge in on this but odviously you ppl have forgotten that harry is the only one that defeat voldemort so even if mermine ron and ginny or neone else for that matter were to go with him to kill voldemort it wouldnt matter cause in the end it will be a fight to the death between harry and voldemort and actually i read somewhere that jk said herself that harry was a goner

Mercurius
04-17-2007, 05:09 PM
I'm really no good with sarcasm, am I?



..Nah, that's just because it's written rather than said


But my SERIOUS guess for HP7 is like this:

-Harry goes out to destroy the remaining (possible 4) horcruxes

-harry finds out that R.A.B is still alive and already destroyed 2 (the locket and another one) of them

-Harry finds the 3th Horcrux...another of the founders relics...and use them

-Draco is being (spy) at voldemorts

-Snape is doin his thing (as a good guy, wich we dun know yet)

-Voldy senses something wrong...however he doesn't know what

-harry is getting more and more dark/angry eruptions

-some random story things

-harry turns more and more evil (Anakin style) making his friends feel insecure

-harry faces voldy (pretty evil by now)

-the match is now not good VS. bad, but bad VS Baddass

-Harry uses just as illegal spells as Voldy with intention to kill, voldy is pleased with harry

-they are pretty equal

-some random things with their abilities

-harry dies

-Draco becomes good again and sacrafices himself to revive Harry

-harry returns and sees Draco's dead body realizing what he's done

-Harry becomes good again to

-and now even being stronger than that he was during his evil reign

-harry kills voldy

-the end

...

Snape: well he most likely will be good and do something somewhere

Wormtail: he still has his open debt to harry

Draco: He's a good guy but he WILL die...I can just feel it

Serius: ...he just has to be alive...he just has to be!!!

Ron: ...useless...he'll just give some stupid comment, especially stupid ones,
and be mediocre

Hermione:...she'll be usefull, and since Ron is too stupid she'll be the one to make their passion for eachother burn

Ginny: ...she'll be there just for erotic pleasure for harry:lol

Deatheaters: ...Dunno

Lucius: he'll turn good as well...reveal some secrets about voldy


...details I forgot...

adorkable
04-17-2007, 05:20 PM
Nice theories, Merc. I honestly never thought of the whole "Harry become badass evil" thing. Pretty interesting. I have no theories for the upcoming book. I can only anticipate. :P

Mercurius
04-17-2007, 05:24 PM
...how else will he think to improve 10 levels in wizarding skills, resist about the darkest of the darkerst dark arts and be realistic (kinda)

...answer...he won't...he will start using illegal things as well...dark arts


I mean...it's nearly obvious that he will when you add the facts;

-his horrible lack of the rules

-his talent for dark arts and resisting them (sectumsempra, Snape was pretty damned astonished and he being best in DefenceATDA)

-his slythren skills (even if he DID get them via Voldy)

-his outrages at his friends

-his pride (he didn't like it when ron became class thingy rather then him)

-his quick anger

-his visits to the Dursleys..(they aren't really nice...to both sides)

-his curiosity for everything (so...why not the dark arts)

-his wand

...and others I forgot

Poison Ivy
04-17-2007, 05:25 PM
well the fact that its called "the deathly hollows" means something dark and sinister will happen i mean you wouldnt name something that had rainbows and butterflies that

adorkable
04-17-2007, 05:36 PM
Well, in pretty much every book, something dark and sinister has occurred, so this book wouldn't surprise me if something on the lines of that happens, as the title does give a clear indication of something related to death happening.

Poison Ivy
04-17-2007, 05:42 PM
maybe harry goes through that thing that sirius fell through

Mercurius
04-17-2007, 05:44 PM
...well that's just one.

it has to be something multiple

Poison Ivy
04-17-2007, 05:49 PM
what do you mean multiple??

Guy
04-18-2007, 01:31 AM
Harry will most likely destroy the Horcruxes or w/e. I still believe Snape is a bad guy. The only proof against him is that in the fourth book, Voldemort said one had betray him and he will kill him. However, if Snape is the one, why would he return to Voldemort? If he returns to Voldemort, he will either be killed or tortured. I think Snape was a spy all along. Dumbledore is strong, but he isn't invincible.

Mercurius
04-18-2007, 08:36 PM
what do you mean multiple??

There was only one gate in the Ministry of magic...that Serius fell through, while the book says Deathly hallows wich refers to that there are more then one. However Idoubt that there is another one of those gate things

Or didn't you mean that thing are the deathly hallow?

Wanderweiss
04-18-2007, 09:03 PM
I had assumed Deathly Hallows referred to the Horcruxes themselves.

Hallows can be either a noun or verb. As a noun, hallows can refer to a saint, a sacred place or a collection of relics. (See the Oxford English Dictionary)

And to make a horcrux you must kill someone, so therefore the Hallow would be a deathly one. :P

Poison Ivy
04-21-2007, 02:33 AM
well its wats inside the doorway things that would be the hollows so u never know what it could b i guess we will have to wat to find out

oh and i have a question: who knew who the Half Blood Prince was b4 the chars found out???

Guy
04-21-2007, 07:54 PM
I didn't; I was so sure it was Voldemort. Imagine my surprised when it turned out to be Snape!

Wanderweiss
04-21-2007, 08:15 PM
...JK Rowling said prior to the release it was neither Harry nor Voldemort. Silly

Guy
04-21-2007, 08:34 PM
She did? oh wtf? I need to pay more attention to interviews... lol, but I'm surprised Harry didn't think of that.

Shezmu
04-21-2007, 09:49 PM
I thought it was snape when Harry read ''Halfblood prince in that potions book. before that i was convinced it was Sirius, that somehow he wasnt really dead. that was kinda stupid actually cause i knew sirius wasnt a halfblood XD

Poison Ivy
04-21-2007, 11:47 PM
i think i thought it was snape i dun remember it was awhile back that i read the book

Guy
04-22-2007, 02:29 AM
I didn't suspect Snape because I thought he was a pure blood...

Thelindra
04-22-2007, 04:07 AM
it was only thru halfway the book, i got a feeling its snape, or some random chars popping out, or even harry's father.

regarding the hallows, they are relics with great powers, 4 of them...
Holy grail (hufflepuff's cup)
Broken sword (griffindor's sword)
Stone/Dish/Pentacle (slytherin's locket)
Spear of Destiny (Ravenclaw's something..=/)

deathly cuz Mr.voldy-san is in it and he needs to be DEAD~! XD

Guy
04-22-2007, 04:15 AM
Wow, I was the only one who never suspected Snape... I guess I suck at Harry Potter as well.

Cheryl
04-22-2007, 07:32 AM
Lol! You're not alone...I never guessed it was Snape either :(

Poison Ivy
04-22-2007, 07:49 PM
regarding the hallows, they are relics with great powers, 4 of them...
Holy grail (hufflepuff's cup)
Broken sword (griffindor's sword)
Stone/Dish/Pentacle (slytherin's locket)
Spear of Destiny (Ravenclaw's something..=/)

deathly cuz Mr.voldy-san is in it and he needs to be DEAD~! XD
so if harry hits voldemort with all those things then voldemort will die???


jk

Cheryl
04-22-2007, 07:51 PM
Lmao! Nah, he just has to destroy them, render Voldy mortal, then kill him. :)

Guy
04-22-2007, 10:25 PM
I seriously have no idea how Harry will beat Voldemort. It seems like JK is seriously underrating Voldy in the last book of the series.

adorkable
04-23-2007, 03:33 PM
^ Lawl, qft.
I honestly can't see Harry defeating Voldy.

~*StÓÑy RèL0ÂÐeD™
04-23-2007, 03:56 PM
well its wats inside the doorway things that would be the hollows so u never know what it could b i guess we will have to wat to find out
oh and i have a question: who knew who the Half Blood Prince was b4 the chars found out???

lol me =D

i made a bet with my classmate that time, and i betted it was snape.. coz it cant be harry or voldy, jk rowling isnt that obvious :face82:

Poison Ivy
04-24-2007, 02:26 AM
soooo.......ummmm.......who has pre-ordered Deathly Hollows

O_O ZOMG i just figured it out the Deathly hollows being the 4 house items and they deathly cause destroying them will make voldy mortal

Wanderweiss
04-24-2007, 02:30 AM
The 4 house items being the remaining horcruxes, exactly like I said... Jesus Christ you people...

Poison Ivy
04-24-2007, 03:24 AM
-_-V jeesh u dun have to start shouting religious idols

Kenken
04-24-2007, 03:42 AM
^ Lawl, qft.
I honestly can't see Harry defeating Voldy.

after reading an article in wiki and thinking about it, now i believe that harry can actually kill voldy, as long as voldy is mortal once again

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Potter_%28character%29#Strengths

read the part where it says Voldemort marking Harry as his equal =p

Wanderweiss
04-24-2007, 03:52 AM
lol, thats just part of the prophecy. Harry was marked Voldemort's equal when Voldemort showed up at Godric's Hollow, solely because Voldemort believed enough that Harry could one day kill him. :)

Kenken
04-24-2007, 04:04 AM
exactly

and that way voldy gave harry some of his skills, such the ability to talk to snakes, and maybe also in dueling and being able to learn new powerful spells and mastering them in a short period of time (e.g patronus spell)

Wanderweiss
04-24-2007, 04:06 AM
I don't think Voldemort's powers have anything to do with Harry's ability to master spells... I mean in the DA Harry successfully taught all of the members how to use the patronus charm... so it can't have been all THAT hard

Kenken
04-24-2007, 04:09 AM
harry was able to beat a number of death eaters :)

and he escaped death against voldemort (specially in the fourt book) many times

Guy
04-24-2007, 05:49 AM
Well, even if Harry has gotten stronger, I doubt Voldemort is that weak. I mean, I don't think Harry is greater than any of his professors; and I'm very confident that Voldemort is greater than all of his professors.

Poison Ivy
04-24-2007, 10:09 PM
good point but voldy could still be weak from having to regain all of his strength after losing all his power and whos to say that he doesnt just have the ones that harry has seeing as it was harry's blood that restored him

Guy
04-25-2007, 02:06 AM
Hmm... after going over the fifth book, I don't see how Harry can win. Sorry. Dumbledore lived because he could apparate before Voldemort cast Avada Kedavra. If Harry can't apparate yet, and if Moody's warnings were true (that you can't protect yourself from Avada Kedavra unless you apparate), then all Voldy has to do is to cast the killing curse and Harry will die instantly.

Kenken
04-25-2007, 02:09 AM
harry can apparate (he did it on the 6th book) and he dodged the curses on the 4th book

also i don't remmeber moody saying that you protect yourself from the killing curse by appearing, i tihnk he said there was no way to protect from the killin curse, and appearing is like dodging

Guy
04-27-2007, 01:35 AM
harry can apparate (he did it on the 6th book) and he dodged the curses on the 4th book

He did?? Hmm, I'm not doubting you, but can you tell me which chapter so I can look it up to refresh my memory?

also i don't remmeber moody saying that you protect yourself from the killing curse by appearing, i tihnk he said there was no way to protect from the killin curse, and appearing is like dodging

OK, that I checked, and he indeed did not say apparating can save you. However, then how did Dumbledore survive? And the fact of the matter is, Voldemort can simply keep casting the killing curse; unless Harry mastered apparating like Dumbledore did, he's gonna be in trouble. Plus, it doesn't change the fact that there's no defense against the killing curse.

Pampa Wayt
04-27-2007, 01:58 AM
However, then how did Dumbledore survive? And the fact of the matter is, Voldemort can simply keep casting the killing curse; unless Harry mastered apparating like Dumbledore did, he's gonna be in trouble. Plus, it doesn't change the fact that there's no defense against the killing curse.

yep, Harry's gonna die alright (if this were reality,yes). But i doubt that J.K.'s someone who's gonna do that. What's gonna happen to the fans? What's the point of writing a seven-novel story just to kill off the main character? Hello? This started out as a children/young adults novel. I was 7 when I first read this.

Yeah, it'll be nice to have a realistic ending (harry dies), but for most of the fans, they'll gonna be thinking it's sucky.



btw, i think ginny's gonna die. (not ron)

Guy
04-27-2007, 03:16 AM
Yeah, Harry BARELY survived his duel with Voldemort in Book 4 thanks to Prior Incatatum or w/e. Well, that ain't gonna save him in book seven. And above all, it sure as heck ain't gonna kill Voldy.

Xkavanger
04-27-2007, 03:34 AM
harry can apparate (he did it on the 6th book) and he dodged the curses on the 4th book
Yeah.. he did.. remember how they had to take lessons.. and someone was half stuck hahaha
Who was it that got stuck again? xD

Guy
04-27-2007, 03:47 AM
Hmm... what chapter was that?

Btw, even if he could apparate, it's not like Harry has a chance of winning...

Xkavanger
04-27-2007, 03:54 AM
I don't remember what chapter actually... but I remember someone in pain coz they were half stuck xD

and I I reckon about Harry either winning or losing is still too debatable... J.K. has surprised us many times... as for one example... Snape being the half-blood prince

and I actually wouldn't be surprised if he died.... but the way he'll die (might)... will surely surprise us

Guy
04-27-2007, 04:18 AM
Yeah, JK will surprise us. I just hope she doesn't end it in a lamely fashion, because with what's given to us right now, it seems like it will have a lame ending.

Xkavanger
04-27-2007, 04:27 AM
what do you mean by "what's given to us"?as in like the clues that she's giveb us?
or as in how the previous book was played out?

Guy
04-27-2007, 04:29 AM
As in how the previoius book was played out. Harry has shown us NOTHING that could possibly be used against Voldemort. And like I said, Harry BARELY escaped because of Priori Incatatum or w/e it's called. Priori was just enough to get him escaped, but I doubt it will save him again; and most importantly, priori cannot kill Voldemort.

Harry doesn't know the killing spell, but Voldy does. With Dumbledore, I could see it happening, but since he's dead, it doesn't look too good.

Xkavanger
04-27-2007, 04:38 AM
The Prior Incantato, (Priori Incantatem) was awesome!!
Yes you're right about nothing about Voldywart... but in this... it was concentrated onto the matter of find out the half-blood...

yes, Dumblydoor is dead... but it doesnt mean Harru can't LEARN the killing curse... remember... he has the whole Order behind him....

rei
04-27-2007, 04:57 AM
off topic: do u guys have to reserve ur copies of book 7?

Xkavanger
04-27-2007, 05:20 AM
No, you can pre-order the book before it comes out from participating book shops OR you can wait in line and get the book on the opening...

or just wait a few days/weeks xD

Kenken
04-27-2007, 06:53 AM
i might get the book on the release date

Xkavanger
04-27-2007, 07:35 AM
EVERYTHING SEXY HAPPENS ON MY BIRTHDAY MONTH xD
:3

The book AND movie come out in July!

BIRTHDAY TREATS xD

I watched the trailer of the movie and died xD

Kenken
04-27-2007, 08:35 AM
cos of the kiss?

Poison Ivy
04-27-2007, 11:48 AM
wait wat ? they finally realesing the 5th movie *runs around screaming"yay!!!!!!"*

sorrowsjoie
04-27-2007, 12:12 PM
hey i haven't heard of that before. a new par of harry potter.........
wow!! dats great.

Xkavanger
04-27-2007, 12:13 PM
Omg Blood.. you're so SLOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
Yes.. In July.. World Wide Release!!!


@Ken: No... AT EVERYTHING!!!
I was sooooo moved by what the movie will have!
I hope it's not as disappointing as The Goblet of Fire, that was just all over the place and lots of scene's from the book were not in the movie
The TRAILERS looked better than the movie o__O

@Sorro: a new what?

Kenken
04-27-2007, 12:19 PM
haha, yeah. it was kinda emotional, due to harry's relationtship with cho and he screaming at dumby

but the 6th book actually depressed (so much that my cat slept on my side)
all thanks to snape(rowling) killing dumby off

Xkavanger
04-27-2007, 12:22 PM
haha, yeah. it was kinda emotional, due to harry's relationtship with cho and he screaming at dumby
but the 6th book actually depressed (so much that my cat slept on my side)
all thanks to snape(rowling) killing dumby off
Ah Ken... I'm talking about the 5th, not the 6th...
The 5th is the one with the new Headmistress Professor Umbridge, and where Fred and George drop out of school after making so much mischief and mayhem xD

Kenken
04-27-2007, 12:38 PM
i know i know

i was just telling you a bit about the 6th book ^_^

Xkavanger
04-27-2007, 12:46 PM
LOL! Well The 6th had shown a greedy and darker side of Harry.. I'm sure EVERYONE here was surprised to see him crack at Dumblydoor o_O

Kenken
04-27-2007, 12:51 PM
yeah, it was quite interesting to see that side of him

Xkavanger
04-27-2007, 12:57 PM
Yesh... Shocking to see Dumblebum cry it was o_O

Kenken
04-27-2007, 01:00 PM
not really, he's a human after all

Xkavanger
04-27-2007, 01:20 PM
No he's not >_>
He's a wizard! xD
Oh wait... o.O
Well.. you don't usually see a wise man, who has lived through so many things to cry...

Poison Ivy
04-28-2007, 01:09 AM
true but you have to think of wat he went through i mean theres no telling wat that stuff was

Guy
04-28-2007, 01:52 AM
I think Rowling screwed up Dumbledore's death... he acted like a senile old man before his death...

Poison Ivy
04-28-2007, 02:23 AM
well he was weak from that stuff in that fountain thing and he wasnt able to do much and personly i think it was a retarded idea for Albus to freze Harry

Guy
04-28-2007, 03:32 AM
Lol, yeah, Albus froze Harry. How much dumber can that get? And I hated how Dumbledore pleaded Snape for his life.

Poison Ivy
04-28-2007, 03:37 AM
yea and the fact that Albus knew that only voldy could kill harry just made it worse i mean would u freeze someone that wouldnt die

Guy
04-28-2007, 03:49 AM
Lol! Oh yeah, I forgot about that.

Wow, JK really screwed up the ending of the sixth book...

Poison Ivy
04-28-2007, 04:32 AM
yea she did but twas probably all part of her plan

Cheryl
04-28-2007, 01:42 PM
Dumbly isn't one to plead or beg for his life. More like he was begging Snape to kill him, knowing that Snape would suffer the consequences if Voldy knew Snape couldn't bear to kill the Head.

~*StÓÑy RèL0ÂÐeD™
04-28-2007, 02:08 PM
Lol, yeah, Albus froze Harry. How much dumber can that get? And I hated how Dumbledore pleaded Snape for his life.
lol, nowadays ppl all think dumbly is.. yeah like cher said.. =.=

he actually wanted snape to kill him, if u go to a nearby bookshore and search a book called "What would happen in book 7 of Harry Potter??" or sumthing like that, they will give like over 10 solid evidences on if snape is actually a good person..

Xkavanger
04-28-2007, 02:46 PM
@Cher: I never thought of it that way! Well that's a resonable view if anything!

oh btw... has anyone thought the possibility that SNAPE may be the one to die in the 7th book?
It just occured to me now... o_O

Night Prowler
04-28-2007, 05:49 PM
Thanks to Kava I've started to read the last Harry Potter again, anyway about Snape, I'm not too sure he could just be looking out for himself.

Oh and me and Kava had a duel in my FC, and shes saying I cheated (bad loser) can someone go have a look and tell her I'm right :P.

Poison Ivy
04-28-2007, 06:47 PM
i say me e-daddy ish right!!! and no im not playing favoritism

Night Prowler
04-28-2007, 07:44 PM
The new movie behind the scenes thing.

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By the looks of it there making the characters look really..... off. I mean when you hear Daniel do the acting bits he sounds all breathless, what Harry isn't ¬_¬.

Poison Ivy
04-28-2007, 08:12 PM
yea he does sound diff mite b because the new director is working him to hard

Wingman
04-28-2007, 08:35 PM
Hmm, another new director?

Well, the upcoming book will be interesting. It will be fun finding out hpw the story ends!

I think Dumbledore was pleading to Snape to "Kill Him" so he could save Draco Malfoy's life (he wouldn't be drawn to the clutches of Voldemort) and he might come back. On the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised if Snape was really evil

Poison Ivy
04-28-2007, 09:02 PM
meh u never know when it comes to snape he could actually b on harry's side and he was only playing like he was helping Voldy

Guy
04-29-2007, 02:11 AM
Wow, nice new trailer! It looks interesting. Umbridge doesn't look evil enough, if you ask me.

OK, guys, the million-dollar debate: is Snape a good guy or a bad guy?

Poison Ivy
04-29-2007, 04:31 AM
im undicided actually

Guy
04-29-2007, 06:14 AM
Oh, too bad. I think he is. Or maybe, he's just a double agent. I hate those kind of people.

Cheryl
04-29-2007, 04:38 PM
I think Snape is good. For all the reasons stated in the book that Stony mentioned. Too many to list down.

Umbridge doesn't look stern enough in the trailer =/ But I'd like to see how she turns out in the movie ^^

rei
04-29-2007, 05:45 PM
imo snape is good he's just really pissed at james potter and the others for ganging up on him. and i think he saved harry more than one time (ugh! i need to brush up on my hp books) and besides didn't dumbledore trust him? i mean come on u can never go wrong with dumbledore.

M-50
04-29-2007, 06:01 PM
The Trailer Is Good! Also I Think One Of The Lesser Known Characters Tags Along With Harry To Find Voldy And Gets Kidnapped And Then The Rest Of Them Group Together To Find Him. They Find Him But Voldy Has Killed Him And Then Harry Gets Really Angry. Voldy Kills Him But Not Before Harry Really Badly Injures Him, Not Fatally Though. Then Ron And Hermione And The Rest Of The Group All Avada Kedavara Voldy And He Dies.

Guy
04-29-2007, 10:57 PM
If Snape is on the good guy's side, why would he kill Dumbledore? Besides, couldn't Voldy read Snape's mind? Voldy will know Snape's true loyalty.

Shezmu
04-30-2007, 01:14 PM
I think Snape is neither good nor evil, just someone who only does whats best for himself.

Besides, couldn't Voldy read Snape's mind? Voldy will know Snape's true loyalty.

Well i'm not sure but in book 5 they say Snape is an expert at that mind reading/hiding thing i dunno what it's called in English in dutch its legilimentie =/ so i think noone can read snape's mind

Cheryl
04-30-2007, 02:16 PM
Legelimens...or something like that. Snape is an expert at that. I am willing to bet that he even surpasses Voldy in terms of that.

M-50
04-30-2007, 07:23 PM
Yeah of course otherwise he would have been killed by now if Voldy knew Snape was fooling him. Everytime voldy tried to use the legillimens on snape, snape countered it and 'fed' him false thoughts.

Guy
05-01-2007, 01:55 AM
Whoah, looks like everyone here is pro-Snape. What makes you think Snape is more powerful than Voldy? If that's the case, why doesn't Snape just kill him? Voldy is way stronger than Snape. Besides, didn't Harry manage to get into Snape's mind once?

Xkavanger
05-01-2007, 12:03 PM
Why does everyone go back to that age old question of "is Snape good guy/bad guy?"
that's NOT debatable!!
Honestly... it was made VERY clear in the last book he is far from bad but less than evil.. he is bitter and has no mercy
What do you say to that? =\

Lol.. sorry if I'm lashing out or anything... but that question comes up WAY too many times and its not as relevant as it should be.. its already been discussed
HE IS A PIG HEADED-FIERY AS* that acts like he has a wand shoved up his backside~! >=\

@Night: lol, you're welcome.. no.. you didn't win.. you CHEATED >_>

Thelindra
05-01-2007, 12:10 PM
snape wun be stronger than voldy, prob just there somewhere hear his level.

and dun we all like to bet on whos gonna win/die, good/bad~

Kenken
05-01-2007, 01:02 PM
Why does everyone go back to that age old question of "is Snape good guy/bad guy?"
that's NOT debatable!!
Honestly... it was made VERY clear in the last book he is far from bad but less than evil.. he is bitter and has no mercy
What do you say to that? =\

Lol.. sorry if I'm lashing out or anything... but that question comes up WAY too many times and its not as relevant as it should be.. its already been discussed
HE IS A PIG HEADED-FIERY AS* that acts like he has a wand shoved up his backside~! >=\

@Night: lol, you're welcome.. no.. you didn't win.. you CHEATED >_>

actually it is, we still don't know if snape killed dumby under dumby's orders =P

Xkavanger
05-01-2007, 01:23 PM
Then THAT should be the topic lol

Did Snape kill Dumbledore under his orders or Voldermorts orders or was it something that Snape wanted to do himself?

@Theli: yeah.. I guess :\

M-50
05-01-2007, 04:10 PM
I guess he killed him from dumbys orders. cus dumby knows how to come back to life from the dead using the mirror in the department of ministry and no one else does, then he comes back and only harry can see him.

Xkavanger
05-01-2007, 04:28 PM
But doesn't that only work with two mirrors?
Like I know Harry has one.. but Sirus' is gone...
I mean like, doesn't it only work with the unique pair in itself?

Guy
05-02-2007, 12:48 AM
OMG, Kava, if Snape is acting from orders from Voldy, then he must be evil. What other explanation is there? Also, Dumbledore either begged Snape to spare his life, or he begged him to kill his life. Read that chapter carefully: it said Harry was schocked because Dumbledore was PLEADING. I highly doubt Dumbledore would want Snape to kill him. Why would he do that? If Dumbledore wants to die so much, why dind't he plead Draco, who was just about to kill him, to do it?

Thelindra
05-02-2007, 12:57 AM
But doesn't that only work with two mirrors?
Like I know Harry has one.. but Sirus' is gone...
I mean like, doesn't it only work with the unique pair in itself?
sirus might have carried it with him all around...

one point, dumbly isnt afraid to die, so hes pleading snape to kill him, not to spare him. (or maybe theres another reason hes pleading for, since JK like to have lots of surpirses X_X)

Guy
05-02-2007, 12:58 AM
So why didn't he plead to Draco to kill him?

Xkavanger
05-02-2007, 01:04 AM
He saw that Draco is better than that, he saw potential in Draco... he isn't as bad as his father

@Theli: That's right.. plus it have been smashed as well =\

hardrocker2116
05-02-2007, 01:09 AM
I watch it and I read it I must've read it a kagillion times already... Books better and I is 16 :winking56

Kenken
05-02-2007, 02:57 AM
OMG, Kava, if Snape is acting from orders from Voldy, then he must be evil. What other explanation is there? Also, Dumbledore either begged Snape to spare his life, or he begged him to kill his life. Read that chapter carefully: it said Harry was schocked because Dumbledore was PLEADING. I highly doubt Dumbledore would want Snape to kill him. Why would he do that? If Dumbledore wants to die so much, why dind't he plead Draco, who was just about to kill him, to do it?

because in order for snape to keep his cover, he had to kill dumby, but he didn't like the idea, so dumby PLEADED to him so snape would kill him, and the reason was looking at him with such anger was that he was being forced to do something he didn't want to

:)

Guy
05-02-2007, 04:36 AM
because in order for snape to keep his cover, he had to kill dumby, but he didn't like the idea, so dumby PLEADED to him so snape would kill him, and the reason was looking at him with such anger was that he was being forced to do something he didn't want to
:)

Geez, why's everyone so optimistic? And is there actual proof behind this quote, or is this just random optimism? So far, solid evidence actually supports my view more than most people's here.

Kenken
05-02-2007, 05:00 AM
about the part dumby pleading to draco... well, if draco would have kill him, if would just put draco in a good position in voldy's eyes... but would draco actually be of any help in killing voldy? i don't think so
while snape... he alone might not have a chance, but maybe he can get information about the horcruxes, by killing dumby and gaining voldy's trust.

EDIT

and btw, why would dumbledore plead for his life? did he not say "After all, to the well-organized mind, death is but the next great adventure" at the end of the first book?

Guy
05-02-2007, 06:20 AM
about the part dumby pleading to draco... well, if draco would have kill him, if would just put draco in a good position in voldy's eyes... but would draco actually be of any help in killing voldy? i don't think so
while snape... he alone might not have a chance, but maybe he can get information about the horcruxes, by killing dumby and gaining voldy's trust.
EDIT
and btw, why would dumbledore plead for his life? did he not say "After all, to the well-organized mind, death is but the next great adventure" at the end of the first book?

Wow, good points, I never thought of that. I still don't believe Snape can hide his thoughts from Voldemort though. He's supposed to be one of the strongest wizards of all time, and yet, a Hogwarts teacher can block Voldy from reaching his mind? I mean, Harry can do that! (penetrate into Snape's mind, I mean) So now Harry is better at occlumency or w/e it is?

As for Dumbledore: now I'm just plain confused. Either he's really smart for devising that plan (assuming it succeeds), or he's really dumb. (if it fails)

Kenken
05-02-2007, 06:27 AM
thanks, and just to let you know, i was just giving reason why i would tihnk snape is good

i think wheter it fails or succeds(although we know it will succed, voldy will die anyway at the end), it still shows that dumby is very smart, he said himself, in the fifth book i think
and well, he's not perfect, so he makes mistakes sometimes =/

Guy
05-02-2007, 06:34 AM
thanks, and just to let you know, i was just giving reason why i would tihnk snape is good

Haha, sure, no problem. You see, unlike kava, I actually DO believe whether Snape is evil or not IS a debatable subject (of course, by the time book 7 comes out, it wouldn't be). I like debating with people like you that actually brings out good points instead of going, "omg, Dumbledore is never wrong!! Snape is good of course!"

i think wheter it fails or succeds(although we know it will succed, voldy will die anyway at the end), it still shows that dumby is very smart, he said himself, in the fifth book i think
and well, he's not perfect, so he makes mistakes sometimes =/

Well, since it's a book, we can all predict it will succeed, but if it's real life, I'd say that was pretty big of a gamble... if the plan fails, Dumbledore died for nothing. (maybe he'll be a ghost! no wait, nvm)

Kenken
05-02-2007, 06:45 AM
haha, you lucky, cos i suck at debating =)

it took a good time to think about it


Well, since it's a book, we can all predict it will succeed, but if it's real life, I'd say that was pretty big of a gamble... if the plan fails, Dumbledore died for nothing. (maybe he'll be a ghost! no wait, nvm)

yeah, you're right, if it were real life, then there's a great risk, so in order to gain something you have to risk(like freedom) and sometimes lose(like dumby's life) something

Xkavanger
05-02-2007, 06:50 AM
IF IT WAS REAL LIFE... I WOULD BE IN IT!

I would I dunno, be an enemy of Harry and his friends... as well as fight along side with him to KILL VOLDY'S A*S

Kenken
05-02-2007, 06:54 AM
o.o

an anti-hero like character, then?

Thelindra
05-02-2007, 07:56 AM
if dumly plan failed, than oh well, at leats he tried XD but most likey he will not, (since hes always set as an very powerful and all well known character. But on a second thought, JK might give us a surpise here)

anyway if u guys wanna know the reasons why snapey is evil or good, just hop onto mugglenet or read the book, "What will happen in Harry Potter Book 7"

I have read and i am betting snape is good ^^v

i am more worried abt draco though =/ poor draco got no where to go to T_T

Kenken
05-02-2007, 08:01 AM
mmm draco...his future is clouded

Xkavanger
05-02-2007, 08:20 AM
Yeah.. we dunno what's gunna happen to Draco.. not much info for that

We should keep a out for Draco.. it's suspicious that he doesn't get mentioned in some of these theories much

Cheryl
05-02-2007, 03:05 PM
Draco will die D:

He will die if he remains with Voldy because he failed his mission. He will die if he rebels because Voldy hates traitors.

Unless someone saves him, of course, but I bet even Snape can't help Draco if Voldy is set on killing him.

Kenken
05-02-2007, 10:09 PM
*pats cher* you still got me :)

but yeah, it seems that no matter what draco does, he might be killed by voldy =/

Guy
05-03-2007, 01:26 AM
Wow... am I the only pessimist here? Draco better die! That kid's a little scumbag. If Lucius Malfoy deserves to be in Azkaban, then so does that little brat. He tortures Harry and his friends at every opportunity. Why should any of us have the slightest bit of sympathy for him?

Thelindra
05-03-2007, 02:32 AM
Why should any of us have the slightest bit of sympathy for him?
cause he was kinda misled? =/

if his parents arent like that, he might have been better.

Kenken
05-03-2007, 02:56 AM
@guysacae: i also want him to die =)

Guy
05-03-2007, 03:56 AM
cause he was kinda misled? =/
if his parents arent like that, he might have been better.

You can't blame his parents for that. Otherwise, every crook can get off the street by using that excuse. Yes, draco's parents suck, but that doesn't justify the fact that Draco is a scumbag.

Thelindra
05-04-2007, 01:04 PM
a spoiled brat, yea, but it will be nice to see someone turn over a new leaf. (and no dun start saying voldy or wormy turning into a new leaf, all they can tuen to is ash ~_~)

Kenken
05-04-2007, 01:22 PM
wormy will help in killing voldy

Rhea
05-05-2007, 01:54 AM
the thing is draco is rotten to the core, jk rowling said so herself!!! there's no matter of him turning over a new leaf as jk said that she does not get why ppl like him as she designed him to b an ass. basically he's meant to be and is portrayed as a horrible little git

Sweeney
05-05-2007, 02:09 AM
I used to hate the idea of Harry dying, but now I think its a fitting end for the series. Plus, it would stop anyone from doing some stupid sequels later on down the road

Rhea
05-05-2007, 02:15 AM
Meh...either harry or neville. The last book shall be interesting to read. I hope that this prophecy malark is covered in more detail as methinks neville is more important than he seems, although she has played up his imporatnce by having the prophecy suggest that he (or Harry) was the one who could stop voldemort. That and the fact that it was made clear that he was also protected by that luck drink (can't remember it's name)

Guy
05-05-2007, 06:03 AM
I hate stories where everyone turns to a good guy at the end. It's too optimistic.

And I wonder... do you think Harry will kill all the Death Eaters too?

Cheryl
05-05-2007, 11:34 AM
JK Rowling said that all bad characters (except Voldemort) are redeemable in an interview...according to the book.

Meh, the Death Eaters will either die or get thrown into Azkaban.

Shezmu
05-05-2007, 12:26 PM
*Gets a dictionary and looks up ''redeemable''*

O RLY? That means that people like Draco and even Snape are redeemable, right? Unless they aren't bad characters, hmm... Well we've had that discussion before.

and yeah i think all death eaters will be killed or locked up.

Rhea
05-05-2007, 12:53 PM
Yeah but as I said above she did explicitly state that draco is a horrible person. He is not meant to be liked and is supposedly rotten to the core. I think Snape will however die after what he did to Dumbledore IMO. For vengence's sake.

Thelindra
05-05-2007, 01:04 PM
i say evil death eaters shld be locked up >=)

lets redeem all of the chars back, and it will be a nice fairytale ending ^^b

Cheryl
05-05-2007, 01:12 PM
As much as I'd like Snape to live (supposing he IS good), he has a high chance of dying in the last book =/

Sweeney
05-05-2007, 03:43 PM
Off topic: Did anyone notice in the trailer that Voldy shows up at the train station? Thats definately NOT in the book.

Thelindra
05-05-2007, 04:01 PM
Off topic: Did anyone notice in the trailer that Voldy shows up at the train station? Thats definately NOT in the book.
yup kinda weird =/

the trailer is cool, it even showed kissing scenes and the effects are WOW~~~~

Sweeney
05-05-2007, 04:07 PM
Oh yeah, the trailer looks fantastic. I just hope they dont throw in too much unnecessary plot scenes that werent in the book

Cheryl
05-05-2007, 07:00 PM
Yeah, I noticed the part of the trailer where Voldy showed up at the station...I thought it was weird >__>;; I'm currently re-reading the 5th book to refresh my memory before I watch the movie ^^

Guy
05-05-2007, 07:43 PM
Voldy didn't show up at the train station in my memory...

Also, all the characters will be redeemed? wtf? NOOOO!!

Night Prowler
05-05-2007, 08:31 PM
Wtf I think the trailer makes it look like shit, the characters all look like they've been deprived from an inhaler

"If Dumbledor has an army.....*big gasp* then I want to be a part of it.... *big gasp*".

Poison Ivy
05-05-2007, 09:03 PM
lol good point i noticed that 2

wait didnt we already talk bout this?

Night Prowler
05-05-2007, 09:57 PM
Yea we have but you all just ignored it.

Anyway heres the extended trailer.

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Ohh and the Voldy in the trainstation bit looks like a scene where Harry's losing his marbels a bit and sees him everywhere.

Guy
05-05-2007, 11:15 PM
I can't wait to see how they portray the Death Eaters.

Poison Ivy
05-06-2007, 01:20 AM
i saw this thing bout one of them she was awesome

Guy
05-06-2007, 01:36 AM
Oh, Bellatrix? She looks insane... wait, she is insane. Lol.

Poison Ivy
05-06-2007, 02:27 AM
yea tru very tru but still tis awesome

Sweeney
05-06-2007, 03:16 AM
All the charachters Ive seen in the trailer look just like I would picture them. And yes, the death eaters are gonna be B.A. XD

Thelindra
05-06-2007, 03:38 AM
did i just see a sexily dressed witch in the trailer near the end? is that a death eater? O_O;

Guy
05-06-2007, 06:11 AM
Uh... what? I'm afraid I don't follow you...