Harry Potter [Archive] - Page 8

GoldenFire

07-05-2007, 08:08 AM

I wouldn't be surprised if it was the darkest, perhaps 2 major characters will die. Then again what defines a major character, how about characters like snape and the weasleys?

Hmm you could ask so many questions, but I know that book 7 will start straight after book 6 as if it was in the same book. I look forward to seeing Harry's last stay with the Dursleys and also his trip to Godric's hollow.

There are also certain things that will happen I have gathered from small details of the previous books. I have no idea what they are exactly but they will play some important part in the story.

The most interesting thing I'm waiting to see is how this will end, I hope it won't be left when it has the potential to keep going. Then again I'm not sure how rowling will tie every single loose end in the series in just over 600 pages. For example if voldy dies, then what about the rest of the death eaters and snape, what happens in the future. I'm sure it'll still leave me wowed and dazed for a few days though :P

analog

07-05-2007, 08:21 AM

Well the last chapter of book seven was written when book one was, so she knew what would happen and its suppose to detail what happens to the people who survive. Him at the Dursleys should be interesting and I get the feeling Petunia may play an interesting role, maybe telling Harry some information, because I truthfully think that she knows more then we think.

GoldenFire

07-05-2007, 10:13 AM

oh she definitely does, she knew what a dementor was and what they do and she was also Lily's sister. We might get more information about Harry's mum from her. Its true that rowling wrote the last chapter when book 1 was written, but since then she has edited it and changed it a bit. Hopefully added more detail and stuff. I look forward to reading that last chapter..

I also want to learn more about dumbledore, and why he's so good at magic. Perhaps his linage, parents, his determination or was he born with it.

analog

07-05-2007, 10:19 AM

Yeah who knows really. I am guessing you have to be born with skills and then take advantage of them, I mean Neville had smart parents but he is bad at magic, and Hermoine had parents who knew nothing, yet she is really good at being able to learn and study it, it has to be a combination.

Xkavanger

07-05-2007, 11:41 AM

lawl Ishi.. its like 30 bucks >.>
its a picture book :)
with those kinds of pics
There are also pages of the houses in separate... I mean like they're only the ones that have acted in it...
uhh.... I don't think Cedric will be in it tho :x
The Hufflepuffs rawk! :x
Yeah I can't wait for the book, I am so excited.
Voldemort will die, but what other major characters?
I think Hagrid might, and I am really starting to feel Harry will.
I got the book for my b'day... I'm not worried :x

and about Hagrid.... it may happen
Coz like... he's been such a major character and is a big role and is very important to Harry... I'd be sad if anything happened bad happened to him
he's such a gentle.... he's gentle >.>

Geb

07-05-2007, 01:37 PM

about those famous 2 people that are going to die - think that JK was reffering only to Harry, Voldemort, Ron, Hermione

like i said before, i also believe that more people will die, i mean it is an open war... (it would be very strange, and dumb for that matter, if only Voldemort and Harry die...) - someone like Malfoy, McGonagall, Hagrid, Snape, Weasley, Belatrix...

ishi-chan

07-05-2007, 02:12 PM

@kava: 30 bucks?? Bah >.> But if it has pics then I guess it's worth it.. :p
Nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu! I love Cedric!! And I fully support Cedric x Harry~! FULLY!! Harry should've got with Cedric in the 4th book/movie instead of Cho Chang... :(

Xkavanger

07-05-2007, 02:56 PM

>_>
I say that all that guy x guy should stay in anime/manga
yah, the book is worth it lol :)

geb: well no doubt
if in HP and the OotP had the D.A. where the whole lot of them went out to the Ministry... to fight Lucious and the rest.. wouldn't this one be a larger fight?
FOR SURE A WAR IS TO BREAK OUT!

Kyoko<3!

07-05-2007, 03:01 PM

Movies > Books.

Only because Emma is teh hotness. Otherwise the book pwns the movies. Too bad Emma is teh haxors =/

you know it to be true kava.

Xkavanger

07-05-2007, 03:16 PM

ROFL W/E Ecna!

The 7th book cover looks like Emma

This is the PROPER cover for it :)
http://images.amazon.cn/c/c6012871.jpg'

I cant find a large image -_-

Kyoko<3!

07-05-2007, 03:48 PM

What a horrible cover.

http://imstars.aufeminin.com/stars/fan/D20060405/1001_695090889_emma_watson_H181444_L.jpg

It'd sell a millions more =)

Geb

07-05-2007, 04:03 PM

Emma Watson... c c c

:D

been looking through older HP posts.. saw 4 pictures (Hermione, Ginny, Luna, Cho) - ... are people blind or what?
there were few comments that Cho is the ugliest one of them (??????)

my order:
Hermione/Ginny (can't decide really)
Cho
....
Luna

Xkavanger

07-05-2007, 04:06 PM

lawl... Well all I can say is that... The boys this year are not as good as last year -_-

Ecna: There's no pic :\

Kyoko<3!

07-05-2007, 04:06 PM

lawl... Well all I can say is that... The boys this year are not as good as last year -_-

Ecna: There's no pic :\

uh yes there is i'm looking at it right now.

nub.

Xkavanger

07-05-2007, 04:22 PM

It doesn't work!!!! -_-
I dunno why....
anyway
back on topic :)
Harry has a hawt bod :)

Kyoko<3!

07-05-2007, 05:01 PM

It doesn't work!!!! -_-
I dunno why....
anyway
back on topic :)
Harry has a hawt bod :)

Hermione > Harry
Emma > Dan

kthx.

Xkavanger

07-05-2007, 05:09 PM

Why do you make things difficult for everybody?
You're going to have wars with people

Those aren't really good reasons... give us reasons

Guy

07-05-2007, 06:16 PM

Books>>>>movies. None of the actresses appeal to me, so... there! lol, nub.

Xkavanger

07-05-2007, 06:23 PM

hahaha... still I'm glad there are the movies... like I've said before.. the pronunciations are hard if you don't know how to say it :\

Come on.. how many of us got "Hermione" wrong? lawl

Guy

07-05-2007, 06:24 PM

OK, I admit, I didn't know how to pronounce Hermione. To be truthful, at first I thought her name was something like heroine, lol.

Kyoko<3!

07-05-2007, 06:25 PM

hahaha... still I'm glad there are the movies... like I've said before.. the pronunciations are hard if you don't know how to say it :\

Come on.. how many of us got "Hermione" wrong? lawl

Not I. I would never defile and derange such a beautiful name wrong.

You just suck Kava. :lol

Xkavanger

07-05-2007, 06:30 PM

MY ASS ECNA (new opening for you)

DUDE!! You din't even KNOW Hermione till the movie came out!
Shame on you!
it came out 2001 btw :lol

Guy: lawl, that's exactly what I meant ^^
I said it as "Her-me-own" LAWL

Kyoko<3!

07-05-2007, 06:32 PM

shaberry

07-05-2007, 06:41 PM

Hmm...Emma's pretty and all...but I wouldn't call her hot...not to mention I don't like her eyebrows... -.-;;;

BeeCrest

07-05-2007, 09:57 PM

Er....calm down there people.

Come on.. how many of us got "Hermione" wrong? lawl

I didn't ^^

What motives would Minerva have to betray Dumbledore? She'd become headmistress, but it wouldn't be worth going so far that parents begin to take their kids out of Hogwarts for safety reasons.

Guy

07-05-2007, 10:08 PM

Lol@all the responses.

@BeeCrest: I agree, I don't see why Minerva would betray Dumbledore. She seems very faithful to him.

BeeCrest

07-05-2007, 10:15 PM

Seeming very faithful doesn't mean someone is. And it's Harry Potter so a surprise betrayal could always happen :P What other motives could she want besides becoming headmistress?

Guy

07-06-2007, 01:17 AM

Yes, but to join the Dark Lord just because she wants to be headmistress is going a little too far... and a bit childish, if you ask me (meaning it would ruin my perspective about the book)

Xkavanger

07-06-2007, 04:00 AM

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!

Turning to the Dark Lord just to become a Headmistress? ROFLMAO!!!!! XD
I don't think so xDD

I like her eyebrows Bee :x

Question:
Do you think that all the forgotten things from the past years will come back?

Such as the Patronus, the strange places they've been to, The Black house, etc.

analog

07-06-2007, 08:42 AM

I really don't see her betraying the Order, she is loyal.

As for the places, they will have to go back to previous places if they want to find out more information.

Xkavanger

07-06-2007, 09:50 AM

Indeed

It would be good to revisit the places before Harry dies :<
Like... The Giant Wizards Chess, The Shrieking Shack, Chamber of Secrets, Graveyard, Maze, The Ministry, etc :)

Or a flash of the emptiness in everyplace where they had once been

;__;

BeeCrest

07-06-2007, 02:50 PM

I like her eyebrows Bee :x

Whose eyebrows? Minerva's? o.O I hope you mean Emma Watson's.

I think I might reread the 6th book before the 7th comes out, and put off that cook I need to read for a paper.

Revising all the places seems tedious and would just make the book longer than it should be, unless the places mentioned have a purpose with the plot in the final book. Do you think the traps set to get into the chamber where the Sorcerer's Stone was are still left there? They really aren't needed, even if something else was hidden why bother when a some know how to get by them.

analog

07-06-2007, 05:10 PM

Yeah true Bee, I see them going to places that are important or could have something ie the Black House.

M-50

07-06-2007, 05:25 PM

but the philosphers stone was destroyed already so y would someone want to go there? and they reset the traps automatically after harry and hermione and ron passed through them.

Geb

07-07-2007, 10:31 AM

ok, i don't know what the title of HP7 means ... "Harry Potter and The Deathly Hallows" ???

actually, there is a translation but since our translators still haven't read the book, their translation sounds a bit off... sth. like "HP and The Deathly Saints" *cough cough*

(and btw, in the Oxford! english-english dictionary there isn't the word "hallow"... wtf ?!)

some help please:)?

EDIT: thanks kava... lol

Xkavanger

07-07-2007, 09:02 PM

it's: "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows" :)
Uhh.. and I'm sure JK has her own reasonable explanation for "Hallows", I'm sure :)
and the title seems appealing, as well as the cover.. the cover where Harry, Ron and Hermy come out of a vault looking thing and land on a pile of treasure (UK and Australian cover)

Whose eyebrows? Minerva's? o.O I hope you mean Emma Watson's.
I think I might reread the 6th book before the 7th comes out, and put off that cook I need to read for a paper.
Revising all the places seems tedious and would just make the book longer than it should be, unless the places mentioned have a purpose with the plot in the final book. Do you think the traps set to get into the chamber where the Sorcerer's Stone was are still left there? They really aren't needed, even if something else was hidden why bother when a some know how to get by them.
yah... >.>
I meant Emma's lawl
I should read the final three... due to the movie (released this Wednesday) and the book in two weeks :x

Uh... good question :\
But M-50's right... it's been destroyed.. but... it wont hurt to go back to the old places where they had once been :)

*just watched HP and the CoS on tv* :p
wow.... I forgot how young they looked :x
and the suspense of seeing the Basilisk again was fun.. even tho I know what happens :p

Edit:
I posted this previously
http://images.amazon.cn/c/c6012871.jpg
(UK and Australian cover)
but I noticed something else that I hadn't before
Do you all see a silhouette of a Stag?
I'm guessing that's Harry's Patronus :)
Do you think that he'll be using it again?

I think he would.. BECAUSE... if a war is to break out.. I'm sure the Ministry would release the Dementors all over the Wizarding World :O

M-50

07-07-2007, 09:47 PM

if war was to break out then yeah, we would be seeing a lot of stags running around all the time.

Xkavanger

07-08-2007, 04:23 AM

ROFL

no I meant like... that's Harry's Patronus.... and fo each wizard/witch who can perform the Patronus, each has a distinct form that it takes shape of :)

shaberry

07-08-2007, 10:34 AM

Hmmm...did they say if Hermoine and Ron were able to create their patroni yet? *blink* I think I might have gotten it confused with a fanfic >.<;;; Ahhh...but I gotta re-read the books again...it's been a while for me...and I've been reading nothing but fanfics lately ^_^;;;

On a side note...is anyone getting the book box set? *blink*

Geb

07-08-2007, 10:49 AM

Hmmm...did they say if Hermoine and Ron were able to create their patroni yet?

Hermione did - she has a beaver, hahahahaha (i don't know the name of that animal in eng., too bad...) :Haha
and Ron i think wasn't able to create anything yet

(cho's patronus is a swan btw)

EDIT: otter maybe? lol

shaberry

07-08-2007, 11:11 AM

Ahhh...so then it was in the book! Lol...I thought I was being delusional and I was mixing fanfics with the actual story...lol...thanks for letting me know ^-^

Ranger

07-08-2007, 12:07 PM

Yeah, I reckon Harry's a Horcrux, and Neville kills him.

Xkavanger

07-08-2007, 02:46 PM

Ranger: as what some of us suspect :\

Sha: lawl
and yeah.. Mia is getting me the final book for my b'day and I might as well get the first 6 in the boxed set :)

geb: really? I honestly don't remember :x
I must read them again :)

BeeCrest

07-08-2007, 11:01 PM

Bleh, I'll probably reread the 6th for the helluvit since I skimmed it.

the cover where Harry, Ron and Hermy come out of a vault looking thing and land on a pile of treasure

Perhaps the one of the bank's vaults? The bank isn't the safest of places since someone has robbed it before (1st book), but decent nonetheless. /me shrugs I dunno.

Xkavanger

07-09-2007, 05:09 AM

Oh, I forgot about Gringotts Bank :\
I hope they show that again :3
coz its freakin awesome!

analog

07-09-2007, 11:13 AM

@geb I don't remember that being in any book, but maybe I just don't remember. Are you sure it wasn't in a fanfic or something, because I think I would have remembered that lol.

I am sad/excited for book 7, but I just want it to come!!

Xkavanger

07-09-2007, 11:37 AM

^ exactly :x
Coz the only book I remember reading on working on the Patronus is Harry in HP and the PoA :\

analog

07-09-2007, 11:53 AM

Yeah, I know he conjures it in other books, but I don't remember anyone else being able to(Hermoine/Ron), or at least it not being described about anyone else being able to.

Xkavanger

07-09-2007, 01:12 PM

Oh you know what?

It could be some of those made up ones that JK never wrote
like they have strange ones in China :\

Geb

07-09-2007, 03:56 PM

i'm gonna kill you two!!
i've spent 20 min. searching for a proof! argh :redbiggri

it's in the 5th book, in the chapter when DA members get busted coz of that stupid Marge girl or whatever her name is
(patrounus part is decribed right before that, lol)

you know you have to rep me now, right? lmao

BeeCrest

07-09-2007, 04:17 PM

I only remembered distinctly that Cho's was a swan and Harry's is a stag, but a beaver for Hermione? No.

Chapter Twenty-Seven: The Centaur and the Sneak, page 607 in my copy (US Hardcover of the fifth book to be precise), top of the page:

Hermione's Patronus, a shining silver otter, was gambling around her.

I only skimmed the pages, but I'm pretty sure that only Cho and Hermione's were mentioned to have a distinct shape. Right after mentioning Hermione's Doby comes in and tells them one of the girls ratted them out to Umbridge.

Otter =/= Beaver

kk :)

Geb

07-09-2007, 05:18 PM

Otter =/= Beaver

i know, i know... :D
but i did edit my post yesteday saying it may be called an otter you know :p

btw, do you know anything bout the title of the HP7 book?

M-50

07-09-2007, 05:28 PM

yeah its called the deathly hallows. dont ask what it means though.

analog

07-09-2007, 09:00 PM

Wow I feel like an idiot now, I totally forgot about the DA time when they were all trying to learn it :o... I feel really stupid haha... I would gladly rep you for correcting me, but it sas I have to spread my rep around some more.

Good call though, all of you(BeeCrest, Sha, Geb) I will rep who I can :P

Hits

07-09-2007, 10:11 PM

Just to add to the "Harry is a Horocux" theory. It is the most plausible theory of them all. But I think it won't lead to one of them dying, but both. Harry will look for the Horocuxes througout the whole book but won't be able to find the last one. Voldemort tells him that Harry himself is the last. There is where the prophecy comes in. It states that only one of them should live. But I think who gets to live isn't decided by both Voldemort and Harry but Harry alone. He will either decide to kill of Voldemort. Or he'll take the easier route which is to kill himself thus making Voldemort mortal and be easily killed.

mangaman16

07-10-2007, 12:02 AM

i still am not sure if snape is evil but i hate him for killing dumbledore.Maybe he is some double traitor working for himself.but why would dumbledore tell snape to kill him?As long as ron and hermione don't die i dont care who else dies.

shaberry

07-10-2007, 03:45 AM

I'm thinking one of the golden trio has to die. It seems like it would be JK's style to do so...

Guy

07-10-2007, 06:12 AM

Golden trio? Harry, Ron, and Hermione? Meh, I'm blacing bets that Harry dies, lmao.

analog

07-10-2007, 06:18 AM

Yeah if one of the three is to die I think that the most likely person would be Harry, then its hard after that, the other two I see as having a low chance, but and equally low.

Geb

07-10-2007, 09:54 AM

There is where the prophecy comes in. It states that only one of them should live. But I think who gets to live isn't decided by both Voldemort and Harry but Harry alone. He will either decide to kill of Voldemort. Or he'll take the easier route which is to kill himself thus making Voldemort mortal and be easily killed.

he can't kill Voldemort unless ALL of the others hocrucses are destroyed, so if Harry is one, he can't kill Voldemort without killing himself... - he would have to sacrifice his life to finish off Voldemort for good (that is what the most of us expects i think)

(i'm thinking of sth. like this - Harry and Voldemort are fighting, at the same time they do a spell, it creates that Priori Incatatem thingy, and then brave little Harry breaks off the P.I. in a way that it blasts both them into oblivion..... lol)

GoldenFire

07-10-2007, 09:55 AM

hmm, someone posted 2 deaths in another forum in a random topic so now I think I'm spoilt :(

Firstly I don't think Harry is a Horcrux, it's a good theory but I don't think voldemort would make Harry a horcrux, the curse backfired and almost killed him. Voldemort also usually creates Horcruxes on objects that are worth a lot to him. Also his snake, although its living it's very faithful to him and he speaks with it so the line would probably be drawn there on what Voldemort would make a Horcrux otherwise it would be objects that are invaluable to voldemort.

Theres a lot of things that I could probably post from previous books to look out for in book 7. I have an excellent memory of all the small details in all the books. I think book three has one such thing. I am also pretty certain that the room of requirement will be revisited and same with the Black house, Godric's hollow and Hogwarts in general.

Now I can't really post who dies, since I think i know and I can't speculate :(

Mercurius

07-10-2007, 10:38 AM

YAY, THE Dutchy Potter title has been released :Domo

And it is toughly translated to english aas: Harrry potter and the Relics of death = Harry potter en de Relieken des doods

Geb

07-10-2007, 12:06 PM

Firstly I don't think Harry is a Horcrux, it's a good theory but I don't think voldemort would make Harry a horcrux, the curse backfired and almost killed him. Voldemort also usually creates Horcruxes on objects that are worth a lot to him. Also his snake, although its living it's very faithful to him and he speaks with it so the line would probably be drawn there on what Voldemort would make a Horcrux otherwise it would be objects that are invaluable to voldemort.

hm, i don't remember anyone saying that Voldemort "made Harry a horcrux" intetionally... (?)

if Harry were a horcrux, then i think it was just a coincidence that he become one.. you know how Harry has special talents that aren't usual for a Gryffindor or a "good" wizard (like parsel language blah blah), so i think it might be an indicator that he is one (and that he "got" those voldy powers when Voldemort tried to kill him)

but who knows... JK is the author :winking56
we can only speculate

(btw, why do i always have to have a comment on every post?? haha...)

analog

07-10-2007, 12:09 PM

Its ok I feel like I have to as well Geb.

Oh I am going to HP5 tomorrow night at 12am, so seeing the first one. Going with a few friends, hopefully its good.

Geb

07-10-2007, 12:16 PM

Oh I am going to HP5 tomorrow night at 12am, so seeing the first one. Going with a few friends, hopefully its good.
i hate you right now :Haha

think i'll see it next week, i have exams now.....

i'm sure the movie will be great (if you forget about the book 5 and simply enjoy it as if it were just another regular movie)
:redbiggri

GoldenFire

07-10-2007, 01:25 PM

hmm I see what you mean with Harry having voldemort's powers but..

Dumbledore did explain to harry, that Voldemort's powers were transferred to Harry by accident since the curse backfired and left a mark on harry. He wasn't very specific but thats what he said.

Also you can't accidently create a Horcrux since there is a spell involved in creating one, slughorn says it to voldemort himself.

BeeCrest

07-10-2007, 02:53 PM

if Harry were a horcrux, then i think it was just a coincidence that he become one..

That's plausible.

Why would Voldermort intentionally make Harry a horcrux, and then try to kill him as seen in many of the book?

Neve

07-10-2007, 03:26 PM

Geb

07-10-2007, 04:41 PM

Whee - I have good news :). JK Rowling said last friday on Jonathan Ross (British interview show) that she might be writing more Harry Potter books after number 7, although previously she had promised that 7 would be the last one :).
Waterstones are running a petition to try to persuade her to write more afterwards - they aim to get over a million signatures:
http://www.waterstones.com/waterstonesweb/navigate.do?pPageID=1384

*falls of his chair*

...

*signs the petition*

Also you can't accidently create a Horcrux since there is a spell involved in creating one, slughorn says it to voldemort himself.

nevertheless, between Harry and Voldemort is a powerful prophecy at hand, that has the power to change the world , maybe that's the catch...

but will know soon enough! yey

shaberry

07-10-2007, 06:25 PM

Woot! I vote for extending the story ^-^ Well...just as long as Harry's not emo anymore... >.<;;;

BeeCrest

07-10-2007, 07:12 PM

Woot! I vote for extending the story ^-^ Well...just as long as Harry's not emo anymore... >.<;;;

That's if Harry lives to be in the possibly extended story :) Unless he came back as like a ghost and talked to people, that'd be pretty lame :|

I'm on middle ground for extending the story. If the seventh book is the last one I wouldn't mind at all, but if the series continued whether or not I'd like it would depend on the seventh.

Waverly

07-10-2007, 07:47 PM

I won't know if I want the story to continue past the 7th book until I actually read it. If it closes up all of the questions and seems appropriate for an ending to the series, I would much rather have the books end on a high note rather than possibly getting worse as time goes on.

analog

07-10-2007, 10:02 PM

Yeah I don't want her to extend the story so that she can make more, but if it makes sense and it works that way, then go for it that would be great!

shaberry

07-10-2007, 11:58 PM

Hmmm...yeah...the more I think about it...if the seventh book has a suitable ending...then there really wouldn't be a need for another book ^-^

analog

07-11-2007, 12:05 AM

Yeah I don't want it to become lame, I think if the seventh ends well I don't want anything more out of it, even though I am sure someday there will be published books by other authors that follow more detail of other characters and such.

EDIT: Wooohoo leaving to the midnight release of HP5 right now!!!!

shaberry

07-11-2007, 10:36 AM

EDIT: Wooohoo leaving to the midnight release of HP5 right now!!!!

Luckyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy... ;_; I was supposed to watch it today with my bros but I had a prior engagement with my bf *sigh* >.<;;;

GoldenFire

07-11-2007, 02:55 PM

I just came back from the movie. It was ok, it was as I expected they just stuck to main plot. No quidditch or anything that was remotely unrelated to the main storyline. Something that annoyed me was how dumbledore is portrayed in the movie. In the book he is calm, serene and very powerful. In the movies he doesn't seem so calm, or serene or even powerful. Personally it seemed to me that voldemort had the upperhand in their fight while in the book it was dumbledore.

Guy

07-11-2007, 07:24 PM

I'll wait til I finish the seventh book before deciding whether or not I want to sign the petition, lol.

Geb

07-11-2007, 07:50 PM

Toasty

07-11-2007, 09:14 PM

i'm afraid the new books won't be that good (if she starts writing them soon), i mean she IS a good writer but when she started writing HP books, one of the first chapters she wrote was the last one - she knew exactly what would happen right from the beginnig, so she pointed the whole plot and characters towards that particulare ending
now, for the new potential books, she would have to come up with a whole new plot and a new suitable ending (think the new set would turn out just fine, if she were to take like 5-7 years off to think it all through and again make some quality HP books)...
and i agree with you all, if the book 7 closes all of the open questions, there's no need for new ones

Yeah. I know that when I write stories (as small as they are) I always write the beginning paragraph, ending, and a couple of key points then fill in the gaps.

I don't want her to write more than she intends. How many times have you seen a movie or game or story that should have ended... and when it didn't, it SUCKED because they were trying to 'force' the plot. No. I'll be happy with whatever she decides.

And honestly, if Harry dies, it's fine. He's just a fictional character, and if he dies, it was her original intent.

I can't believe there is so much hatred on the web and news if she kills him. People become attached so easily. lol.

Well, I can't wait for the seventh. I have faith in Rowling to meet our expectations and write an awesome book. After the fourth, I just couldn't put the books down. I want to see how this ends!!

(Though, to be honest, I'm always sad when books end because there will be no more... but it has to come sometime... everything ends eventually)

M-50

07-11-2007, 10:46 PM

Ron might die seeig as he is one of the weakest of the trio.
Hermione might also die trying to protect harry from dying becauses harry is acreless like that.

but what i dont get is why people are hating cus she might kill harry off, i mean if she dont then some noobie author is going to rip her for millions.

Geb

07-11-2007, 11:19 PM

Yeah. I know that when I write stories (as small as they are) I always write the beginning paragraph, ending, and a couple of key points then fill in the gaps.

my last post came up wrong http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z15/geb_bucket/kaos-lemon07.gif

she can't "edit" the old books to put new hints or sth. (for the new (?) books) since they've already been written (and they were originally planned as a set of 7 books so there was no point in the first place to do so...)

and the 7th book is the one with the closure, perfect ending to the hole HP saga, hence it would be hard to continue Harry Potter in an interesting way... (it depends on how she wrote the last book, with or without some kind of unanswered questions - but if she's rethinking the whole thing over, it might mean HP is continuable)

but what i dont get is why people are hating cus she might kill harry off, i mean if she dont then some noobie author is going to rip her for millions.

yeah... i think it would be a suitable ending for Harry to die (but like i once said, if he lives, he lives - great! love happy endings)
and people who don't see Harry's death as a potentially good ending, aren't really HP fans - that's my own personal opinion

my friend told me that he only likes books 1-3 (4), 5 and 6 are too lame for him coz they're dark and too serious.....
to me those are the best books!! they reveal everything bout the past of certain characters, are intense in plot blah blah
.. and yes, he thinks it would be a stupid ending if he gets killed.....

i rest my case

......

for today, buahahahaha http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z15/geb_bucket/hahaha.gif

*goes to bed*

analog

07-11-2007, 11:20 PM

Well after seeing the movie, it wasn't very good, I didn't like it that much. I think it was really obvious it was a different director as he had such a different style. I think someone who hadn't read the books would have had a hard time understanding everything. The movie just felt lacking, but thats always how I feel after the movies, the fight scene in the ministry wasn't even that good in the movie, and Sirius dieing just didn't feel or seem the way it did in the book.

@geb yeah my favorite books are the dark ones, I love how it just continues to get darker as he gets older, as it should.

Oh by the way if anyone is interested we are starting a Harry Potter RP in the RP section, so check it out!

M-50

07-11-2007, 11:24 PM

oh isnt it good. all these secrets coming out as he gets older? next thing u know he is related to voldy somehow.

analog

07-11-2007, 11:56 PM

That wouldn't happen, but I do like how we slowly continue to learn more and more about the past of everything that has happened, along with Voldemort's past which I find interesting.

Toasty

07-12-2007, 01:00 AM

I have really strict rules on reading books and watching movies. If I have seen the first movie in a series but have not read ANY of the books, I will continue to watch the movies and not read the books till AFTER the last movie has been made (Such as LOTR... I hadn't read the books, so I didn't read any of them until I watched the Extended Edition of the Return of the King...) If I read the book first, the movie takes second place, and I will continue to read till the last book is done and then watch the movies. That way I keep the two separate and never let my opinion of one influence the other. It's a safe and easy way to enjoy both without hating either.

However... when I watched the third Harry Potter movie, I was SO confused by the lack of explanations and the suckiness of the movie that I was forced to read the books to understand what was going on. So Harry Potter is my one exception. Thank you Director of the third movie! Grrs.

Well, I will honestly say in the end I'm glad it happened. I felt they ruined the fourth movie. If I HAD read the book second then so many key and "secret" details that Rowling did not make obvious till the end would have been ruined. One of my favorite parts was when you find out who Mad-Eye Moody really is. ... Seriously, they made it WAY too obvious in the fourth movie!

I just hope they do the fifth justice. *sigh* It was my favorite of the books!!!!

Of course, I do have an opinion to justify the dark aspects of the books!!

If any of you have been teenagers, or ARE teenagers, then you may understand the feeling of being hated and unloved. It gets to the point that you may even become angst and think everyone hates you. Given this, Harry is a boy with a lot of power and respect, as well as a dark past. I think Rowling did a perfect job portraying a boy who had all these expectations and no one to really talk to. ... At least no one he allowed himself to.

The reason Sirius dies is because HARRY was an idiot, angst teenager who thought everyone hated him. If he had simply looked at the gift that Sirius had given him instead of being all "everyone hates me!" "no one is listening to me!" then most of the end would NOT have happened. ... In the end, it was really Harry's fault.

I know that growing up, I didn't listen to a lot of people. I probably made more mistakes because I thought people didn't care than I did otherwise.

... Also, I'd like to say that her books grow with the readers. As Harry ages, so does the content of her books and what Harry goes through.

(Oh, and I hated book 2. HATED it. And the movie. My least favorite so far...)

davidn15

07-12-2007, 01:21 AM

i happened to like book 2. the movie was bareable at best. Book 6 is still my fave though. 9 more days til deathly hallows

Waverly

07-12-2007, 01:45 AM

Book 2 is also my least favorite book. (ranked from favorite to least favorite it goes 3, 5, 6, 4, 1, 2)

I also agree with what you said about how the books get more mature as they go on and grow with the reader. That is one of my favorite things about the Harry Potter books. It not only is good in the aspect that it gives another level to the books (the way the books are written reflects the internal conflicts of the characters) but that it makes it that much more interesting to the readers. Since the books become more mature further on in the series, I'm not left feeling as though I'm reading a "kids book," which I really appreciate.

Toasty

07-12-2007, 01:55 AM

I'll admit, I loved the third book.

Ranked as fav to least fav -> 5, 4, 3, 6, 1, 2.

Just because one is ranked lower doesn't mean it wasn't good. The only one I even remotely disliked was the 2nd. It was hard to pick an order for the others.

analog

07-12-2007, 01:57 AM

Well I really like how the books mature, not only because I am older then I was when I started but because I feel I can relate to it more. When I first started reading the books I was 9, now I am going to turn 18 three days before the last one comes out, I just feel like I could easily relate since I was usually the same age as Harry.

As for him in book 5....
Yes it was Harry's fault for Sirius dieing because he didn't learn Occlumency like he should have and he decided not to use the device Sirius had given him earlier(even though he didn't know what it was other then he could contact him). In the 5th movie they actually don't show Harry ever having or receiving the mirror from Sirius, its never mentioned, which i was surprised by.

Favorite Books in order from favorite to least. 6, 5, 4, 3, 1, 2 basically backwards. But I have to say I loved them all so I can't really say I like one more then the others.

Toasty

07-12-2007, 02:02 AM

Analog, I wish that spoiler would've mentioned that it had something to do with the movie. Blegh. That kinda spoiled something for me. :( I'm not mad, just irritated. I don't like to know anything about the movie till I see it.

Yeah. I just couldn't get into the 6th book. It was good, but it was lacking something for me.

... Oh, I know what it was lacking ----> Book 7.

I think that it was leading into 7, but didn't ever feel like it had an ending. It was kinda like spiraling out of control. Perhaps that was the intended effect, since Harry was going through the same thing... but seriously, I just... couldn't get into it. :)

I have every intention of rereading them all after 7 comes out. I tend to get a better grasp of everything the second time around... and I've discovered that if I CAN read a book a second time... It means I liked it more.

Waverly

07-12-2007, 02:09 AM

I just re-read books five and six to prepare myself for the 5th movie and the 7th book. Unfortunately I finished them a lot more quickly than I thought I would, so I probably had time to re-read the entire series. Oh well. :(

I'm super excited for book seven though. I've had theories of who is going to die in it since book four, haha. :P Half of me hopes that I'm right and half of me hopes that I'm wrong.

analog

07-12-2007, 02:15 AM

Oh shit, dude I am really sorry for that spoiler :(, I feel really bad now... ugh...

Yeah I just reread 1-5 then saw the movie, now I am starting to read number 6 again and will be done for when 7 comes out.

Toasty

07-12-2007, 02:18 AM

Like I said, I'm not "mad" ... it was just unexpected. I tend to avoid them pretty good. lol. it wasn't like you told me anything REALLY important. Just a surprise... Don't feel bad about it. Just edit and fix the spoiler tag or make a second one. :P That would fix it for me. ;) That way other people don't do it too.

analog

07-12-2007, 02:22 AM

Yeah I fixed it, it includes the fact that there are movie spoilers inside the spoiler area.

Xkavanger

07-12-2007, 03:45 AM

OMG!! Analog! I agree!
My cousin and my sister didn't get it at all!
They were like "wtf? What happend to Cho?"
They didn't show the break up or the fact that they actually got together....

ANYWAY!!
THE GRAPHICS WERE AWESOME!!!!!
The Dementors looked freakier and awesome! My sis and cousin preferred the other Dementors... these one's were soooo much scarier!

Umbridge was a bi*ch and that was good... tho I would have preferred her fatter >.>

and the Fights were INCREDIBLE!! I was on the edge of my seat! xD
Anyways... the fight scenes and where the prophecies all fall... was awesome =D

I was fairly happy with it and yeah, it was obvious that it was another director.. this is the 3rd director for the movies :\

Luna Lovegood was such an awesome role! Her part was perfect in looks and personailty! =D

analog

07-12-2007, 04:18 AM

Xkavanger

07-12-2007, 04:57 AM

Yeah out of everything in the movie I think Luna did a great job and she was cast well, which I was happy with, but yes I went with two people who had read the books and one who hadn't and she didn't really get everything while we got it but it seemed lacking.

As for Cho, we never saw Harry and Cho's date, which didn't go very well, they just had it as they broke up when she was the one who ratted them out, in the book wasn't it Cho's friend who told on them, or did she tell on them at some other part.

Hmmm yeah, Luna was cute =D
My sister loved her ^^

Yeah... that's right, and they were supposed to be at Hogsmeade more as well as the coins thing where they were told of time and loction thing didn't happen.
Coz like the coin thing happend after they were ratted out. I can't really remember who was dobbed, but it was Cho in the movie anyway.

This was very strange to me in a way, but I'm sure it was done to suit the movie. As geb had previously said about the Patronus in the book, he was right. Hermionie had an otter, but Cho wasn't there because she was the one who ratted them out, which now when I come to think about it...

I think it was her friend, if her friend was the one who told..

actually... it was! Coz when they signed their names, they were jinxed.

Whoever dobs, they would get thier face full of pimples/boils.. and she was a blonde curly haired girl

OH YEAH! I R TEH SCHMARTZ! I REMEMBER!!! OH YEAH!!! BOOYAH!!!

Anyway, the book didn't say anything about everyone elses Patronusus.
But:
Ron had a dog
Hermy: Otter
Luna: Rabbit
Ginny: Horse
etc. =D

analog

07-12-2007, 05:00 AM

Yeah it was Cho's friend who ratted them out, you are right Kava. As for the Patronus, I don't think that many were in the book because in the movie it should everyone being able to make the patronus work, which didn't happen, I don't believe but hey I was wrong about the Patronus's earlier.

Chikiru

07-12-2007, 05:15 AM

I love Harry Potter YAAAAAY!!!!!!!!!I can't wait until i get Deathly Hallows book !!!xD

Kyoko<3!

07-12-2007, 05:18 AM

Hmmm yeah, Luna was cute =D
My sister loved her ^^

You failed to mention Emma! Blasphemy! xDD
But I will cover for you. Here's how she was in the movie:

She was admirable, alluring, angelic, appealing, beauteous, bewitching, charming, classy, comely, cute, dazzling, delicate, delightful, divine, elegant, enticing, excellent, exquisite, fair, fascinating, fine, foxy, good-looking, gorgeous, graceful, grand, hot, ideal, lovely, magnificent, marvelous, nice, pleasing, pretty, pulchritudinous, radiant, ravishing, refined, resplendent, shapely, sightly, splendid, statuesque, stunning, sublime, superb, symmetrical, taking, well-formed, wonderful, adorable, agreeable, allurieaut, beckoning, bewitching, captivating, enchanting, engaging, enthralling, enticing, fetching, glamorous, interesting, inviting, luring, magnetic, mesmeric, pleasant, prepossessing, pretty, provocative, seductive, sexy, tantalizing, teasing, tempting, winsome.

But, I'm just guessing from past experiences with her. I havent actually seen the movie yet, but I expect no less.

no. i am not obsessed. :D

Xkavanger

07-12-2007, 06:34 AM

OMG!!! ECNA!!! YOU'RE ESPADA!!! :<<<<<<<<
Cintaku menjadi Espada :||||||||||

LOLOLOLOL

*ahem* CONGRATS!!! Proud of you buddy! (how'd you do it? >.>)

Anyway, Emma was great.. just as she always had been. Same with Daniel and Rupert. lol
I took Photos! but I didn't during the movie as my camera makes the shutter noise.. which you cannot disable lol
But yah.. me tooky piccies!
I will posty soony =D

Analog: Yah.. I was wrong too.. but I can't believe I rememberd her friend! xD

Coz I do remember her crying and covering her face when she was talking to Umbridge in front of them lol

As for the Patronusus... well I guess if we want to know the right info. we gotta read it again and see for ourselves lol

analog

07-12-2007, 06:52 AM

@kava haha yeah seriously we should, an extra bit, or at least that part, can't believe I blanked on it. Your right on that one part in the book though :).

Emma was good, but she didn't develop the way I had hope she would, but she has time, I guess. :P

GoldenFire

07-12-2007, 06:54 AM

The patronuses in the book that were said were cho's which was a swan and hermione's which was an otter. It also might've mentioned seamus or dean's but thats all I remember right now. I don't remember the book mentioning anything about Ron's or Ginny's unless JKR told them for the movie.

shaberry

07-12-2007, 07:20 PM

Ahhhh >.<;;; God it so scary going in here...>.<;;; I don't wanna spoil the movie for myself. But anyway...so it's good then? I've heard from my brothers that watched it that it's really good. ^-^ Hopefully it is. But...kyaaaaaaa...I'm excited...I'll be watching the movie either today or tomorrow ^-^

Mercurius

07-12-2007, 10:26 PM

It's a really good movie, altough the story is interpreted as known to all viewers, like the Prophecy only short mentioned, and terms such as death-eaters and stuff alike are all mentioned familiar. And the order of the phoenix didn't get the attention it should by FAR.

HOWEVER: the effects, acting, action, komedie, love, spells are all present BRILLIANTLY

Guy

07-12-2007, 11:39 PM

Oh, so the movie is worth watching then? How long is it?

Xkavanger

07-13-2007, 07:06 AM

HOWEVER: the effects, acting, action, komedie, love, spells are all present BRILLIANTLY
QFT! QFT =D

Guy: I say it is! Plus the fights literally got me on the edge of my seat! =DDDD

The movie length:
Got in at 9:20pm
And finished at 12:00am

Guy

07-13-2007, 10:05 PM

Oh... ok, so for a potter movie, it's about right. OK. I guess I'll see it when I have the chance.

II Xion II

07-13-2007, 10:14 PM

Yeah, if you judge the movies by the book, then the movies are pretty bad and don't really follow it. However, if you view the movies by themselves, they're not really that bad. I like the special effects and music, so I guess that's something to look forward to.

If you judge the movies by the book (which ought to be done), then the movies really, really, really SUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!

Even viewing the movies in a standalone fashion, they still kind of suck.

Discontinuity is rampant, scenes change extremely quickly and without much depth, lack of character depth, ridiculous and easily guessed conclusions, and a single-ended and juvenile plot base.

The only good things about the movies are the acting (only after the first), the special effects, and the art/lighting/camera/atmosphere components.

Compared to the books it is like comparing Police Academy 4 to Citizen Kane.

analog

07-13-2007, 11:31 PM

@Xion yeah I agree, yet I always see the movies because I love the books sooooo much, yet I always come away disappointed. Even people who haven't read the book that I know they usually don't like the movies. Its just that the screenwriter does a terrible job translating the book into a 2.5hr movie, but I think I could do better at it, its just they try to be to hollywoody and not stick to the book. I mean in the movies when something happens or someone dies, no one cares because you don't have the same feelings for the characters as you do in the books.

adorkable

07-14-2007, 05:51 AM

I had really high expectations for the film, but I guess that made it even more disappointing for me. I was thinking about how many things annoyed me in the film and I came up with heaps of points. And then I thought about how many things I liked and I came up with 2 points. I'm sure that there probably are more things that I liked, but when I thought about it, there wasn't much.

One week until the 7th book comes out!

Xkavanger

07-14-2007, 11:06 AM

Yeah... I just hope the next isn't as bad as this :<

Like, the first director was PERFECT don't you think?

That was the director for the 1st two.

analog

07-14-2007, 11:11 AM

@kava: No I have felt that every movie has been pretty bad, especially compared to the books. The thing also is that the director of the first movies had books that were shorter, but I still think its more the screenwriter then the director because I have liked the cinematography and acting, its just the story is bad.

Geb

07-14-2007, 11:21 AM

ehm...
yesterday my friend asked me to give her book 5 to read it again before #7 comes out, and while she was looking at the cover

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/1409/hplk6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

she told me i looked like Harry Potter...

LMAO LMAO LMAO

but i don't wear glasses and have dark brown eyes... (the only resemblance is the HAIR, definitely the hair, and the body structure)

II Xion II

07-14-2007, 01:10 PM

Pre-ordered the seventh book!!! W00t!

I have always hated how the Harry Potter books (US editions that is because their covers kick ass) stopped increasing in length after the fifth book.

It just doesn't look right on my book shelf. :(

Geb

07-14-2007, 02:14 PM

I have always hated how the Harry Potter books (US editions that is because their covers kick ass) stopped increasing in length after the fifth book.
It just doesn't look right on my book shelf. :(

yep, we also have the US covers, they're the best :redbiggri love 'em

and i was a bit shocked when i first saw the book 6... really sad ... so

BOOK 7 MUST BE LOOOONG !!!!!!!!!! (like #5)
NO, EVEN LONGER!! i want to enjoy HP as much as i can.... eh

adorkable

07-14-2007, 02:33 PM

I prefer the British covers. :P

Argh! I'm going to be so devestated when the 7th book comes out! Half the world would've probably read it before I do. Hopefully when my aunt and uncle return to Vietnam, they would have bought the book for me to read! But, because I like spoiling myself, I'm probably going to be reading what happens in the book on the net. :|

Xkavanger

07-14-2007, 02:52 PM

^Same!
Only coz we get those ones xD
Also... that's not a good idea ;_;
You don't want to find out how they die >.<
I was one of the late readers to the Half-Blood Prince and my mate spoiled it for me >.<;

geb: yeah, this is the last HP we'll enjoy for the rest of our LIVES ;___;

Xion: yeah lol, the British ones are thicker and are all the same height.

PLUS! I prefer the British title of the 1st book
"Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone"
^the proper title xD

ana: I guess that's right o_O
I blame the lame writer -_-

adorkable

07-14-2007, 02:55 PM

YES! EXACTLY! Philosopher.

Well, I know that someone out there is going to write a LONG detailed account of what happens in the book, explaining who dies (and how they die), etc, etc. :)

Yup, I'm all for spoiling myself. Hehehe.

II Xion II

07-14-2007, 02:59 PM

I was one of the late readers to the Half-Blood Prince and my mate spoiled it for me >.<

Same happened to me. It was still a good read though, and the reasons behind it might not be as simple as first perceived.

BOOK 7 MUST BE LOOOONG !!!!!!!!!! (like #5)
NO, EVEN LONGER!! i want to enjoy HP as much as i can.... eh

The US version of Book 7 is like has 700-something pages which make sit the second longest, right after Book 5. :(

Xkavanger

07-14-2007, 02:59 PM

WHY BOTHERRRRR xD

Don't you want to endure it yourself? @__@;;

It feels a lot different the first time :x

Edit: Xion:
Yeah, when Dumblydoor died, it didn't feel the same when I read it. T.T

adorkable

07-14-2007, 03:05 PM

I could wait until my aunt and uncle return with the book, but I know that my brother or a friend OR YOU GUYS will be all talking about what happens and whatnot, and I'll just be dying in desperation to know! Yeah, I'm very weak, lol.

Xkavanger

07-14-2007, 03:13 PM

I'm getting it on the Saturday, 4 days before my b'day =D

I know what you mean, you beg them not to tell you, then you end up begging them to tell you >.<

You get a fuse of confusion xD

Thelindra

07-14-2007, 03:41 PM

bwahaha~couple of mroe days to HP final book release!!!!
*excited*
and i still have nt pre-order it lol

Xkavanger

07-14-2007, 03:44 PM

Do it now before its too late @__@;;

Isn't it cheaper to pre-order anyway? :\

Thelindra

07-14-2007, 04:01 PM

the one thats really cheaper is to buy it 6 months afer its released^^
the price will drop by 1/3

GoldenFire

07-14-2007, 04:31 PM

The seventh book is around 608 pages in the British edition, and 784 pages in the US edition. I think its slightly longer than the 6th book but not the 5th.

I can't wait, but then again I don't really want the series to end.

adorkable

07-14-2007, 04:39 PM

^ Yeah, it's kind of sad to see it come to an end. I was watching an interview today with JK Rowling, and she said that it was unlikely for her to continue Harry's adventures, but she did say that she would never say never to continue the Harry Potter series.

Xkavanger

07-14-2007, 05:11 PM

Lol, I heard her say that on the news.

It must be a relief for her as the expectations and demands end.

When she comes back from her holiday, I wonder if she'll get bored of doing nothing and write something else! =O

adorkable

07-14-2007, 05:14 PM

If she does end up writing something else, I don't think that it would be as epic as Harry Potter though. :/

Xkavanger

07-14-2007, 05:19 PM

YEah, possible nothing to do with magic -_-

Does anyone realise that she created an entire world from scratch?(almost) =O

I could NEVER do that! She, Lewis Carol and JRR Tolkien are such great writers

analog

07-14-2007, 10:00 PM

Page count: 784 (US), 608 (UK)
Even though it was already posted I saw.
Yeah when 7 comes out I am going to just read it until I finish and not get any spoilers from anyone, I don't want to find out anything, its no fun that way.

silverwolf801

07-14-2007, 11:29 PM

I will spoil everyone. I pre oredered the book

Guy

07-14-2007, 11:35 PM

No spoiling the last book, please. Actually, a good advice would be, until you finish the last book, don't come to this thread, lol.

skyoon

07-14-2007, 11:40 PM

only if you care about being spoiled ;P

myself, i think it's just as good whether or not I know what's going to happen. And honestly sometimes its pretty obvious D:

analog

07-15-2007, 12:16 AM

Well when the book comes out I am going to shut myself away from technology as I don't like to be spoiled :P, sorry I prefer not to know, even if its sometimes obvious.

Xkavanger

07-15-2007, 01:21 AM

Well I'm getting it with my own hands on the day =D

So therefore, I am reading it till on that day!

*sits in a chair and waits till next Saturday* =D

Guy

07-15-2007, 03:42 AM

It's coming out next Saturday? Really? That quickly?

analog

07-15-2007, 04:37 AM

lol yeah it is.

I can't wait for Friday night!!! going to be awesome!!

GoldenFire

07-15-2007, 08:14 AM

yeh it comes out very soon..

I heard a while ago, that JKR will use a pen name and write books like that. She doesn't want people buying and reading her books because of her, she wants people to buy the books because of the content and story in the book.

This was awhile ago though, not sure if she still has the same plans. Also if she does write more on the harry potter books, then it'll probably be either awhile away or maybe side stories or information books like defining all the animals or some history and backstory to some characters that doesnt really fit into the plot of the books.

At the moment, I'm excited for the last book I haven't even read the cover yet. I want to read this book without having a clue on whats going to happen.

analog

07-15-2007, 08:27 AM

@GoldenFire I have never heard that, but eventually people would probably figure it out :P

Yeah I don't want to know anything, I have read the title of the book though already :o

adorkable

07-15-2007, 08:38 AM

Okay, I just found out that my aunt and uncle are returning on the 22nd which is the day after the book is released! HOPEFULLY they will buy it for me and HOPEFULLY I'll be able to read it along with the rest of the world. Fingers crossed.

Artemis

07-15-2007, 09:04 AM

lol. I have a friend (a year older than me), she works at a local book store. She was telling us yesterday how she and the others are slightly scared and anxious about what's going to happen when the new Harry Potter book comes out.

Or as she putted it:
"When those Harry Potter freaks come in, it's gonna be f-cking hell."

But, uh, good luck for those who are going to the book store. I can only imagine the chaos when the doors open.
o_o

adorkable

07-15-2007, 09:36 AM

I bet you that it will be chaos. There are a lot of obsessive Harry Potter fanatics out there who will be on a stampede. Lol, good luck to those who are getting the book as soon as it's released!!

II Xion II

07-15-2007, 09:41 AM

I bet you that it will be chaos. There are a lot of obsessive Harry Potter fanatics out there who will be on a stampede. Lol, good luck to those who are getting the book as soon as it's released!!

Stay away from the ones wearing capes and shouting "avada kedavra" at the top of their lungs! :Haha

GoldenFire

07-15-2007, 09:57 AM

I'm going to a bookstore where my friend works and he'll be there, I'm guaranteed a copy and I might be able to jump the queue too :D It'll be exciting, I'm catching a train there so i'll start reading it on the way back home. I'm scared someone on the train might steal it though ^^

M-50

07-15-2007, 10:07 AM

so what do you think about the rumour that harry will kill himself?

adorkable

07-15-2007, 10:08 AM

You better watch out! They'll be dressed up as dementors and jump you and steal your copy of the book! You might as well buy 2 copies just incase, lol. Jokes. Hopefully that won't happen. :P

EDIT
I haven't heard that rumour. But now that I have, I wouldn't mind if Harry kills himself... I just think that it would be quite unexpected. But if it fits the circumstances that have happened (like Hogwarts being blown up, or something as equally crazy as that), then maybe it'll happen, lol. If he does die in this book, I don't think it's because he kills himself.

Prince Noctis

07-15-2007, 10:52 AM

Where have i been....... and not have seen this thread.

To introduce myself, I have read Harry Potter 1, 2, 3,4,5,6 in American published versions. I've read Harry Potter 6 in United Kingdom print..Bloomsbury...they used some slightly different slang.

Am currently reading Harry Potter 3 Chinese edition.

I don't like the Movies.

adorkable

07-15-2007, 11:00 AM

I've read Harry Potter 6 in United Kingdom print..Bloomsbury...they used some slightly different slang.
Well, welcome to this thread. :)
And seriously? The Bloomsbury versions use different slang compared to Scholastic? That's quite odd. I have books 1 and 2 which are published by Scholastic, and the rest published by Bloomsbury. But it's been quite a long time since I last read the first two books, so I don't think I noticed any slang difference.

Prince Noctis

07-15-2007, 11:04 AM

Yep, I can't recall exactly, but when i was reading the 6th book, some slang seems so pure and sometimes hard to comprehend what mood, tone, or personification Rowling was trying to tell me.
Like if an Englishman read a book with American slang, like yo, that's hot, that shirt is sweet, i like them ice on yo neck, etc, he won't relate.

adorkable

07-15-2007, 11:10 AM

Prince Noctis

07-15-2007, 11:14 AM

That's quite interesting actually. Well, Scholastic is an American book publisher, so if that is true, I can understand how it would be kind of difficult for American English speakers to comprehend certain going-ons written with unfimiliar British slang. Now I'm wondering, in the Scholastic version of The Half-Blood Prince, is the word 'snogging' used?

I'll say no, but not sure. Reading the Scholastic versions of Harry Potter, it was rare for me to find difficult words that I don't have a clue about. Since the vocabulary was easy to read, thats why HP was one of my favorites.
It's likely a British slang.

Interesting find, click. (http://www.angelfire.com/mi3/cookarama/britwords.html)

adorkable

07-15-2007, 11:18 AM

Yup, snogging is definitely British slang (if that's what you were referring too). The books have been an easy read throughout the whole series, so I guess I enjoyed that too, as I started reading HP at quite a young age.

Prince Noctis

07-15-2007, 11:20 AM

Yup, I started reading it when I was 11, which was Harry's age in book 1. and now I'm 18 and so is he i think.

I found the term for the slang snogging.
SNOG - Snog or snogging means kissing.
ex. She was just snogging with Draco.

click. another list (http://chochang1518.tripod.com/id34.html)

GoldenFire

07-15-2007, 11:20 AM

I have all the bloomsbury versions, and I can perfectly relate to all the slang. The word fug is used, I thought it was a typo for fog but it's an actual word that has a similar meaning to fog. Also the word 'slut' is used and that might be changed or edited out in the scholastic version, not sure though.

I prefer the bloomsbury slang, because I like some of the english terminology they use. Makes it more of an interesting read.

adorkable

07-15-2007, 11:26 AM

^ Yes, same here. I speak and spell in British and Australian English, so I can understand just about most of the slang used in Bloomsbury's versions. I was talking to some friends when the sixth book came out and they were confused as to what the word 'snog' meant. Funny how different English can be between English speaking countries.

Prince Noctis

07-15-2007, 11:35 AM

I see, are you from UK? New Zealand? Asia?
Because thats where I think British English is still used in.

I got the Bloomsbury version of Harry Potter when I went back to Taiwan for vacation, all they sell was the UK Edition and the Mandarin edition.

adorkable

07-15-2007, 11:40 AM

I'm part Australian, part Vietnamese, living in Asia, attended a British school, attending an American-ish school. So yeah, pretty much brought up with British English. Some people argue that they buy Scholastic's version because the covers are nicer looking. I disagree with that (I reckon Bloomsbury's covers are nicer :P).

Prince Noctis

07-15-2007, 11:45 AM

I agree, Bloomsbury has more story telling in their cover arts.

I was born in Taiwan and raised there untill I was 9-10.
Grew up in Va, USA. I attended a mostly black high school, so yea, totally different from yours. ;)
We use alot of slang.

GoldenFire

07-15-2007, 11:49 AM

I live in Australia, so they sell the bloomsbury edition over here. We have the same spelling as the British, although the slag sometimes is a bit different we still understand it. At least I do. Also I prefer the bloomsbury covers over the scholastic ones, they just look better IMO.

analog

07-15-2007, 11:54 AM

Well living in the United States I get that version and I like them and the covers, but I guess as long as I have the book it doesn't matter to me, I just want to read whats inside.

adorkable

07-15-2007, 11:59 AM

Yeah, true. The story > everything else.

Australian slang is different to British slang, but I can understand both slang phrases and such anyway.

Harry Potter is so universal - another reason why I love it.

Bloomsbury >>>> Scholastic.
Rofl.

Prince Noctis

07-15-2007, 12:05 PM

One thing i hate is ignorant people who doesn't give HP a chance.
They hear Harry Potter and immediately they think it's a children's book and it's too kiddish for them.
=/

adorkable

07-15-2007, 12:08 PM

ANOTHER thing that I love about Harry Potter is how there is such a large range of ages that read it. I know people in their 60s that read the books, as well as people as old as me, and ages all throughout. However, there are those people who do stereotype the books and don't give them a chance.

analog

07-15-2007, 12:15 PM

Yeah I don't like the people who are like "I love to watch the movies, but I am to lazy to read the books." or, someone actually said this to me today, "Don't tell me what happens in the books, I don't want you to spoil the next two movies for me." I was like well then read the books if you don't want to be spoiled.

Yes I love the fact that when I was 9 I loved Harry Potter and now that I am nearly 18 I still love it, just shows to be that all ages can enjoy it.

Prince Noctis

07-15-2007, 12:15 PM

Funny thing is, I was the only kid in the family that read Harry Potter.
Then my older brother had Harry Potter 4 in his summer reading list, and he reads it and liked it. He called Harry Potter stupid beforehand, but after reading the 4th Book, he was hooked and he starts reading the 1st book and so on.

ANOTHER good thing about HP is you don't need to read the previous years to understand and enjoy the book. Although it does help.

adorkable

07-15-2007, 12:28 PM

One of my good friends only watches the films, which kind of bugs me. The reason why she doesn't read the books is because they're "too long" and "the descriptions are too long" and other things like that. It does get annoying when people who haven't read the books are talking about how good the films are, because then they don't really have anything to compare them to.

It does help to have read the previous books (and considering that Rowling said that book 6 and 7 are like two halves of one long novel), but each book has been a new story to the series.

Geb

07-15-2007, 01:15 PM

One thing i hate is ignorant people who doesn't give HP a chance.
They hear Harry Potter and immediately they think it's a children's book and it's too kiddish for them.
=/

books 1-3 are "books for children", starting from the ending of #4, the HP series become more adult like, more mature (go JK!)
i have a friend from highschool who has read tons and tons of books, and the HP books that he had read were # 2 and 3 (that was few years ago), so he thinks that they're childish and he doesn't get why people love 'em so much
i keep telling him to read the other books... (i doubt he'll ever take the time to read them)

so i hate it when people make up their mind before reading the whole series, i understand they're long and that there are 7, but don't go telling me you don't like it if you haven't read a single HP book or if you have read the "childish ones" and you refuse to read the others that are very different
...

EDIT:
@ adorkable - *fingers crossed* :)

adorkable

07-15-2007, 02:15 PM

Yeah, I realised that the first three books are more children themed than the others. It's great that they turn out more mature and have much more content. Judging my friends, they don't read the books because there are "too many" and their lengths are pretty long. The first 3 books were really short actually, and I reckon they could be read in less than 10 hours (even if you're a slower reader). Then they do get pretty long, which doesn't bother me, but does bother those who are pretty lazy readers. :/

analog

07-15-2007, 11:19 PM

Well they are more children type books because, Harry is still a child. As he matures so does the story because as someone gets older so do the actions they take along with what is going on around them, it all changes.

II Xion II

07-15-2007, 11:26 PM

Night Prowler

07-16-2007, 12:43 AM

Lol am I the only one who doesn't like the new Bloomsbury cover? It looks way to ghey, im defiantly getting the other one where its just the pendant.

analog

07-16-2007, 12:49 AM

I have to agree NP it doesn't look very good, but I can't get either unless I import or something so I am getting the american one, which in my opinion is the best looking cover out of them all.

Night Prowler

07-16-2007, 12:59 AM

Yea for once the Americans get the best cover just cause of its simpliticity.

II Xion II

07-16-2007, 03:35 AM

Yea for once the Americans get the best cover just cause of its simpliticity.

For once!

The American covers have always been my favorites.

They don't look nearly as cartoonish as the English ones.

ishi-chan

07-16-2007, 03:40 AM

Okay, I have some announcements about the following Harry Potter books. Yes, you heard right, books!

First of all, for those of you who think Snape is a bastard and a low traitor, you are totally and completely wrong! He is still on the good side, so rest assured. My proof for this is when Snape was leaning over Dumbledore in the 6th book, prepared to kill him. In Dumbledore's final moments, he pleaded to Snape. Not for Snape to let him live, but for Snape to kill him. The reason being, for Snape to prove to Lord Voldemort that he is a loyal follower, when in fact he is still loyal to Dumbledore and working as a spy against Voldemort.

Secondly, I do not know if this is true, but I have a sinking feeling that Draco Malfoy may be a character to die in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. J.K. Rowling has stated that there is one character she wanted to kill off right from the very first word. What if it wasn't Voldemort? What if it was Harry's nemesis, Draco Malfoy? Draco's personality proves him sneaky and indeed evil but deep down he is a misunderstood child who longs for love and attention, pressured into following in his father's footsteps, a constantly loyal Death Eater to Voldemort.
In the 7th book, it ended with Snape escaping with Draco. Now, we all know, J.K. Rowling is a very clever woman filled with a mind of brilliant ideas. She, no doubt, has something in store for little Draco. That may well be his death.

Thirdly and finally, J.K. Rowling has stated that she "will not say no to writing more Harry Potter books". In other words, Harry survives in the 7th book, because there would be no point in continuing with the HP books seeing as they are all based and focused on Harry Potter. But this also leaves the door open to Voldemort's survival. It is surely possible that Voldemort may escape, if not, then another major enemy (someone more powerful than Voldemort himself) will come along, which is highly doubtful, otherwise the books will never end.

There are a few other theories I have read which are quite controversial. One being where Minerva McGonagall's loyalty lies, another being Neville Longbottom's past and objects related to him and their significance, such as Trevor the toad, Neville's remembrall and the lolly wrapper (you all know what I'm talking about). These theories are not proven to be true but they do have some truth to them.

In conclusion, I would like to add that what we must all remember is that J.K. Rowling is an excellent writer and will hold many things in store for us in the upcoming book/s, that is certain. Keep in mind that there will be twists and unexpected events, even for those of us who believe we know all there is to know about the HP books.

Edit: I would like to point out that I am led to believe that J.K. Rowling will be bringing back a character or two. I firmly believe that either or both Sirius Black and Albus Dumbledore will return. It is highly unlikely this is the end of Dumbledore. There must be another reason as to why he wanted Snape to "kill" him. The main reason being that he wanted to confuse Voldemort and force Voldy to assume Dumbledore was dead, so he could launch an attack on Voldy and his Death Eaters without them expecting it.
As for Sirius, do we really know Sirius died behind the veil? I mean, we didn't see the body, there is no real proof that he is dead. As for the Avada Kadavra curse, there has been one person to survive the curse. Who knows, maybe it is possible for other people to survive it too. I know it doesn't sound probable but like I said, keep in mind that J.K. Rowling is full of surprises.

II Xion II

07-16-2007, 05:21 AM

Geb

07-16-2007, 05:52 AM

First of all, for those of you who think Snape is a bastard and a low traitor, you are totally and completely wrong! He is still on the good side, so rest assured. My proof for this is when Snape was leaning over Dumbledore in the 6th book, prepared to kill him. In Dumbledore's final moments, he pleaded to Snape. Not for Snape to let him live, but for Snape to kill him. The reason being, for Snape to prove to Lord Voldemort that he is a loyal follower, when in fact he is still loyal to Dumbledore and working as a spy against Voldemort.
when Voldemort was "brought back to life" in book 4, he said that there was a traitor or sth., and he was reffering to Snape - so we know that Voldy didn't plant Snape in Hogwarts, but that alone doesn't prove that Snape is on the good side, far from it
but i got the impression throughout the books that Snape is on the good side, so i agree on this one

Secondly, I do not know if this is true, but I have a sinking feeling that Draco Malfoy may be a character to die in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. J.K. Rowling has stated that there is one character she wanted to kill off right from the very first word. What if it wasn't Voldemort? What if it was Harry's nemesis, Draco Malfoy? Draco's personality proves him sneaky and indeed evil but deep down he is a misunderstood child who longs for love and attention, pressured into following in his father's footsteps, a constantly loyal Death Eater to Voldemort.
i'm not so sure, i think he's not goning to die, like you've said, he's just a boy who longs for love and attention, so i think he will end up on the good side in the end

J.K. Rowling has stated that she "will not say no to writing more Harry Potter books". In other words, Harry survives in the 7th book, because there would be no point in continuing with the HP books seeing as they are all based and focused on Harry Potter. But this also leaves the door open to Voldemort's survival. It is surely possible that Voldemort may escape, if not, then another major enemy (someone more powerful than Voldemort himself) will come along, which is highly doubtful, otherwise the books will never end.
i dunno, very very unlikely because the whole HP series is about killing Voldemort
i'm sure the prophecy will kill Voldemort in the end
i don't know how she possibly thinks (?) to continue HP... that would be very interesting (the most speculated book ever...)
even though Harry and Voldy might both die, think that doesn't limit her cuz HP and the world that she's created for him are naturally her domain, so to think sth. gooood up is of no problem to her
but like we disscused it earlier, if the #7 answeres all of the important questions, there is no need for another HP book

I would like to point out that I am led to believe that J.K. Rowling will be bringing back a character or two. I firmly believe that either or both Sirius Black and Albus Dumbledore will return. It is highly unlikely this is the end of Dumbledore. There must be another reason as to why he wanted Snape to "kill" him. The main reason being that he wanted to confuse Voldemort and force Voldy to assume Dumbledore was dead, so he could launch an attack on Voldy and his Death Eaters without them expecting it.
As for Sirius, do we really know Sirius died behind the veil? I mean, we didn't see the body, there is no real proof that he is dead. As for the Avada Kadavra curse, there has been one person to survive the curse.Who knows, maybe it is possible for other people to survive it too.I know it doesn't sound probable but like I said, keep in mind that J.K. Rowling is full of surprises.
hm, even though i'd like for Dumbledore to come back to life, but he was killed by Avada Kadavra...
it's most unlikely that someone other then Harry can survive it (he only survived it thanks to the prophecy - lucky little bastard)
same goes for Sirius, think he'll also stay dead

but like you've said "J.K. Rowling is full of surprises" and that is the main point

II Xion II

07-16-2007, 12:26 PM

I have a good question.

Come Saturday, will this thread be spammed with spoilers by people lucky enough to get the book at midnight and who can read 150 pages per minute?

'Cause if so I am just going to avoid this thread like the plague.

Until I finish the book on Sunday or Monday that is.

GoldenFire

07-16-2007, 01:04 PM

I won't post spoilers when I get the book, but I will post when I have finished the book. I won't visit this thread until I have finished the book.

I disagree with the snape being good thing, I've thought about this A LOT and I'm fairly sure snape is evil. If you look at snape's personality why would he be on the good side, when he doesn't treat anyone very well. I think voldemort and what he offers interests snape more than what dumbledore offers. There are always places where you can point and say but why did this happen etc. Pleading to be killed doesn't make sense, I personally think its not possible for dumbledore to plead let alone plead to be killed. I think he was pleading snape to reconsider, and dumbledore would have been surprised since he was betrayed. No I think snape is evil, I'm almost certian he is. Voldemort mentioned snape was the traitor BUT snape visited voldemort right after that meeting took place, snape explains it himself somewhere around the beginning of book 6. So after his meeting with voldemort he was no longer a traitor, although he said it was on dumbledore's orders this would have been a perfect opportunity to switch sides again. Although snape's character remains shady and probably intentionally to add interest in his character, since its difficult to discern what he is thinking and thus what side he is on. I believe he is a bitter character, and it suit's his personality more to be on voldemorts side rather than dumbledores.

The draco theory is interesting, I do think JKR has plans for him but I don't think it is death. I think Draco is an extremely desperate situation, since if you look at whos surrounding him he has no real source of protection except for his mother and father, his father being hated by voldemort for his failures.

I do not believe either character will come back to life, however I do think dumbledore will communicate via his portrait in hogwarts. As for sirius, he was not hit by avada kedevra but by a stunning spell then he fell into the veil.. there is still that two way mirror he gave to harry, but it is unlikely that he will come back in any form except through memories and his possessions, i.e. grimmauld place.

JKR can still write books even if both harry and voldemort die, she could write about the future of the other characters, the history of others and just deepen the overall world she has created through giving us information that would not have fitted inside the plot of the previous books but could nonetheless still be interesting.

Neville is an interesting character too, I do believe JKR will increase his involvement with Harry and I think he should be able to get some sort of revenge for his parents, or at least die trying. He is important but the prophecy is not about him, also the prophecy is not to be analysed too deeply because there are no hidden truths in it as dumbledore implied in book 6 to harry.

Still all these answers with the series will be answered very soon, also I wait to see why the reason that Harry has his mother's eyes is important, because I believe they are.

II Xion II

07-16-2007, 01:36 PM

I disagree with the snape being good thing, I've thought about this A LOT and I'm fairly sure snape is evil. If you look at snape's personality why would he be on the good side, when he doesn't treat anyone very well. I think voldemort and what he offers interests snape more than what dumbledore offers. There are always places where you can point and say but why did this happen etc. Pleading to be killed doesn't make sense, I personally think its not possible for dumbledore to plead let alone plead to be killed. I think he was pleading snape to reconsider, and dumbledore would have been surprised since he was betrayed. No I think snape is evil, I'm almost certian he is. Voldemort mentioned snape was the traitor BUT snape visited voldemort right after that meeting took place, snape explains it himself somewhere around the beginning of book 6. So after his meeting with voldemort he was no longer a traitor, although he said it was on dumbledore's orders this would have been a perfect opportunity to switch sides again. Although snape's character remains shady and probably intentionally to add interest in his character, since its difficult to discern what he is thinking and thus what side he is on. I believe he is a bitter character, and it suit's his personality more to be on voldemorts side rather than dumbledores.

But Dumbledore knows everything and Dumbledore clearly trusted him despite Harry CONSTANTLY telling him Snape's evil.

And there would be only a couple of reasons why Dumbledore would beg like he did to Snape. One would be that he trusted him and was pleading for his life or for Snape's redemption. This doesn't seem right though because Dumbledore is a very clever man and never feared death (he described it as the "next great adventure") and clearly Snape was surrounded by Death Eaters (thus Snape sparing him would be awkward).

The second reason would be that he pleaded with Snape to kill him. That would be a lot more in line with Dumbledore's personality and belief of furthering the Order's goals (by securing Snape's loyalty to Voldemort). That would also explain why Harry was petrified. So that Harry didn't do anything stupid to interfere with Snape killing him. Something Harry never would have agreed to.

Snape has been "evil" the whole book and Dumbledore knew this, yet he still trusted him despite his past as a Death Eater and as Harry's parents' killer (since he told Voldemort about the prophecy).

This tells us that Dumbledore knows something about Snape that he clearly never told us.

The draco theory is interesting, I do think JKR has plans for him but I don't think it is death. I think Draco is an extremely desperate situation, since if you look at whos surrounding him he has no real source of protection except for his mother and father, his father being hated by voldemort for his failures.

I don't know about him dying, but I think that we are beginning to see the human side of him as he is faced with the harsh reality of Death Eater life with Voldemort. Although death would be a suiting end.

I do not believe either character will come back to life, however I do think dumbledore will communicate via his portrait in hogwarts. As for sirius, he was not hit by avada kedevra but by a stunning spell then he fell into the veil.. there is still that two way mirror he gave to harry, but it is unlikely that he will come back in any form except through memories and his possessions, i.e. grimmauld place.

Sirius is pretty much dead. He fell into the Veil which clearly seems to separate the world of the living from the world of the dead. Hence the name of that chapter as "Beyond the Veil." Rowling did say the mirrors would be important in some way though. Hmm. Stupid Harry should have just used that to communicate with him instead of Umbridge's fireplace, what a moron!

GoldenFire

07-16-2007, 01:47 PM

But Dumbledore knows everything and Dumbledore clearly trusted him despite Harry CONSTANTLY telling him Snape's evil.
And there would be only a couple of reasons why Dumbledore would beg like he did to Snape. One would be that he trusted him and was pleading for his life or for Snape's redemption. This doesn't seem right though because Dumbledore is a very clever man and never feared death (he described it as the "next great adventure") and clearly Snape was surrounded by Death Eaters (thus Snape sparing him would be awkward).
The second reason would be that he pleaded with Snape to kill him. That would be a lot more in line with Dumbledore's personality and belief of furthering the Order's goals (by securing Snape's loyalty to Voldemort). That would also explain why Harry was petrified. So that Harry didn't do anything stupid to interfere with Snape killing him. Something Harry never would have agreed to.
Snape has been "evil" the whole book and Dumbledore knew this, yet he still trusted him despite his past as a Death Eater and as Harry's parents' killer (since he told Voldemort about the prophecy).
This tells us that Dumbledore knows something about Snape that he clearly never told us.

You are right that Dumbledore seemed to trust snape, but I believe this is because snape exploited dumbledore's weakness which is to give everyone second chances that they deserve. Voldemort did say in book 5 that he knew what dumbledore's weaknesses were, and dumbledore also said himself that he does make mistake and the outcome of his mistakes tend to have much larger consequences.

You are right about the situation of snape being surrounded by death eaters, however I remember that snape's face was described as being etched with lines of hatred before he killed dumbledore although you may argue that those feelings were required for the spell to work, it was never described when anyone else did it at least not as detailed. Harry has always believed snape to be evil, but not really for the right reasons, he has a prejudice against snape because of the way snape treats him and fails to see any side of snape's character beyond that point, however in the end I still believe snape is evil.

I actually want snape to be on the good side, but how I see things after much thinking I don't really see it happening. Dumbledore did know something we don't know and that is the details of what snape told him, which were mainly composed of sorrowful and tragic stories to acquire dumbledore's regret and trust.

Snape has characteristics that show he is not like all the other people that are on his side, he is bitter and his background suits him to be a death eater which he indeed was but the character flaws that he has were never dispelled which is usually what happens when someone turns over to a good side permanently.

Waverly

07-16-2007, 02:47 PM

I think I may be one of the only people who doesn't care whether Snape is good or bad. He's done some good things and he's done some bad things.. it could go either way... or of course it could be that he isn't loyal to Dumbledore OR Voldemort, but that he is just working for himself. Whatever the outcome, I still think that Snape is a fantastic character... and that is all I really care about.

Then again, I also don't care if Harry lives or dies. I also don't care whether or not he himself is a Horcrux, because JKR hasn't disappointed me yet, so I'm sure whatever she planned will be pretty awesome.

As for either Dumbledore or Sirius coming back, I'm positive they won't. JKR said on her website that Dumbledore wasn't coming back, and I think she also said that Sirius was definitely dead and not coming back but I can't currently find where she said that. I also think it'd be pretty cheesy if they did come back, anyway. Dead characters should stay that way.

One of my theories was that Lupin would end up dying at the hand (literally) of Peter Pettigrew. Isn't a silver bullet the only thing that can kill a werewolf? So wouldn't a silver hand work just as well? ...but when I was looking at JKR's site she debunked my theory and said that it definitely doesn't happen. But now Lupin has a chance to survive, so yay!

Geb

07-16-2007, 03:18 PM

Come Saturday, will this thread be spammed with spoilers by people lucky enough to get the book at midnight and who can read 150 pages per minute?
'Cause if so I am just going to avoid this thread like the plague.

this thread those days = plague, i agree
i won't show up here until i read it all :)

and again bout Snape - judging through the facts about him (his past, his evilish behaviour), Snape is on the Voldy's side, but like i've said, throughout the books (not just #6 where he kills D.) i got a somewhat impression that he's on the good side, in part because Dumbledore never explained why he trusted him, and that's why he's such a intrigive character --> so i expect some Deus ex machina explanation from JK
hence there must be something else in his past that had made him a double agent

+ sth. i said before
even though V. is the strongest wizard in the world right now, it doesn't mean he holds the monopol on every aspect of magic... so i think Snape has been fooling Voldemort quite well with his Oclumenccy

but it wouldn't even surprise me in the end if he turned out to be bad... it is JK after all
ah, that woman!!! she's driving us all crazy :)

Stay away from the ones wearing capes and shouting "avada kedavra" at the top of their lungs!
omg, i can actually imagine you doing that :P
rofl