Risque Avatars and Sigs [Archive]

Sarteck

06-26-2006, 01:57 PM

So, how risque can a sig be before it's tacky? ANd how risque can an avatar be before it's just wrong?

Some of us like to show creative artistic talent, which can lead to partial nudity in our sigs and avatars. Some of use are pervs who just like that kind of thing, heh. Some of us just want others to pay attention to us, so we use the most attention-grabbing picture we can.

Whatever the reason, it boils down to one thing: how risque is TOO risque? Just how much flesh can you show before it stops being tastful and starts becoming porn? Do you use risque pictures in your sig or avatar, and if so, why?

06-26-2006, 02:20 PM

Question: Are you just annoyed because you don't have one?

Second Question: Are you against Sexual reproduction

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Sure in a forum there should be some restricitons on what should be seen...
But if a picture merely hints at the possibility at such a thing then it shouldn't be that bad...Because if you restrict that then you should restrict Real life photos of the members because they're essentially the same thing..

No Private or Nude Photos should be enough...

chiking1

06-26-2006, 02:46 PM

No Private or Nude Photos should be enough...
I agree with Ai, because it is only natural for people to be attracted by the opposite sex, or else we would not be able to reproduce... therefore, not having a next generation

Sarteck

06-26-2006, 02:50 PM

KT Samurai

06-26-2006, 04:59 PM

It depends on the forum and how it's run. Look at this place then look at Boxtorrent's forum. Those guys can get away with damn near anythin'.

I personally don't give a crap. I've used many a risque avatar in my time and it seems to have been in good taste because I've only been asked to change it once. I don't use it here because I don't think it's appropriate, but I might sneak somethin' in a signature banner because I'm a ninja like that.

How risque is too risque? Just keep pushin' it until a mod has a word with you. Then you'll know exactly how risque it can get.

Sarteck

06-26-2006, 05:05 PM

Heh. Well, I suppose that's one way to look at it... XD So, KT, for you, "too risque" is at the limit where you would get in some sort of trouble for it, in other words.

KT Samurai

06-26-2006, 11:19 PM

Heh. Well, I suppose that's one way to look at it... XD So, KT, for you, "too risque" is at the limit where you would get in some sort of trouble for it, in other words.

You got it. Most forums have to give you one warning. You can use that as a basis with which to measure the level of boobery you can get away with.

Daeruke

06-26-2006, 11:23 PM

it depends on what forums ur talking about. some forums dont even care

KT Samurai

06-26-2006, 11:30 PM

it depends on what forums ur talking about. some forums dont even care

Yeah, thanks for saying what I said already. Good job.

Stigmata

06-26-2006, 11:31 PM

Woaaahhh! Careful there KT :p Daeruke has already tortured me once today!

Sorry for this but it had to be said!

MooL

06-27-2006, 01:19 AM

Some of us just want others to pay attention to us, so we use the most attention-grabbing picture we can.COUGH RABID WOLVERINE COUGH.

Drawing from real life experiences: If I can see your ass, stretch marks, or your chest hanging out of your shirt, that is too much skin.

And truthfully, it seems so distasteful and Sarteck coined it when he says 'tacky' too.

It's not like I can help it if some CB members are attracted to unproportional women, skinny men, and children. Blah blah, to each his own, blah.

But I believe there is a line between "art" and SMUT...it's just reaaally blurry at CB and everyone's a pervert. =(

06-27-2006, 11:11 AM

Yes, I am obviously against sexual reproduction, and of course I am annoyed because I don't have one. Heh. [Why those questions had to be added, I don't know, heh.]

Now, you say, "But if a picture merely hints at the possibility at such a thing then it shouldn't be that bad.." What are you talking about? Hinting at sex? Hinting at pornography? Hinting at what? And where do you [personally, not collectively] draw the line?

Well that makes two of us i can't remember why i made those questions either...:doindadom

A lady reclining on a sofa can hint at sexual needs or can portray that...But i do believe television advertisers have this excact same problem...how much can you get away with before it becomes too much...
...

I believe we should draw the line at the point where a picture is no longer there to be humurous...or to prove a point to someone...
So basically if you start looking at the picture and literally only see a pRon pic...or a lewd picture and it's not there for a persons personality then that should be enough and it should be taken down...

But basically i stand by No nude photos...No gratuitious lewd pose photos....

You have to consider that people of all ages and types come to a forum so you should be considerate of their opinions and their views...and their maturity and just put something polite and soothing..Or funny..people like that...:doindadom

KT Samurai

06-27-2006, 11:15 AM

The only thing wrong with nude photography is that it is misunderstood, even when it's in excellent taste. I used to have to take down bad ass photography magazines at a store I worked at because it contained topless models. Bloody amazing, I tell ya.

Nothin's wrong with nudity. Explicit sex I can understand bein' banned from public forums like this, but makin' a big deal over some skin is just laughable.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f195/Asheth/Scavenger%20Hunt/4th%20Division/franksbaldingspot.jpg

Rabid_Wolverine

06-27-2006, 11:45 AM

COUGH RABID WOLVERINE COUGH.

Drawing from real life experiences: If I can see your ass, stretch marks, or your chest hanging out of your shirt, that is too much skin.

And truthfully, it seems so distasteful and Sarteck coined it when he says 'tacky' too.

It's not like I can help it if some CB members are attracted to unproportional women, skinny men, and children. Blah blah, to each his own, blah.

But I believe there is a line between "art" and SMUT...it's just reaaally blurry at CB and everyone's a pervert. =(

I don't see why you're is complaining. Nothing explicit is revealed and its='s an anime forum after all. I can understand if it was hentai or actual porn but I seriously don't think there is anything wrong with ecchi. I mean all I revelaed was a little ass haha. You couldn't even see a pussy or any tits.

06-28-2006, 12:01 AM

True ^

If we take Rabids previous pics as an example...

There were lewd pictures as they were blatently showing a sexual provocative picture...But the people happened to be still clothed...

If i show a picture on the forum of basically the same thing with two real life girls like that i'm pretty sure it wouldn't be that bad...

A person chooses to see things like this when they get onto the internet..I mean you see gratuitious pictures everywhere over tyhe net...Most youngsters only get onto the net to look up these pics because its the only way they can get any...

So assuming that your not a complete imbecile and that you know when you log onto the net that at one point or another your going ot see these sort of pictures then mentally you have signed a waiver form that allows that sort of stuff.

Echii is ok because it hints at it...It's when you start showing naked and personal private parts that you've crossed the line..

Sarteck

06-28-2006, 04:02 AM

I don't know about that perspective, |Ai|. That's basically saying, "well, they're going to eventually see it if they're on the 'Net, so they might as well get over it." Might be true, but then we'd have to say the same thing about spamming, flaming, etc.--that it's okay, since they'll eventually see it, anyway.

As to Rabid's pics... Did they cross the line? Well, obviously not, since he's still here and not banned. Heh. Were they lewd, tacky, tasteless, etc? Hell yeah. Showing as much flesh as you possibly can without getting in trouble for it... meh. Not really something I personally care for.

Then again, that's just my opinion, and opinions are like assholes--everyone has one, and they all stink.

Isis

06-28-2006, 06:03 AM

I agree with what you're saying,Sarteck. I sorta agree with what Ai said. Ive said this in a couple of different debates, but I'm muslim, and seeing these sorta things arent exactly my cup of tea, neither is it for my religion..but yeah I have to settle with the fact that I'll be seeing a lot of this around. Everyone has different views on how risque avatars and signatures so its not something that we can compare. However, the only way to know if its wrong, is if someone says something which is unfortunate. To prevent such pics, maybe have rules for what sorta stuff you can have in your avas/sigs?

unwaken

06-28-2006, 06:52 AM

Personally I think its distasteful.
Just because somebody enjoys ecchi doesn't mean I do too. I mean, an ecchi anime is funny but having a full blown ecchi picture in your face everytime you surf the forum kinda gets on your nerves.

Maybe if its a sig that's done tastefully or artistically, I could deal with it. Hell, I might even encourage it. Some of Devildude's old sigs are borderline ecchi but he does a good job on keeping them classy and they look good. =)

Randomly huge pictures of girls' boobs or asses as sigs are just not my cup of tea.

Then again, I have to quote Sarteck.
Opinions are like assholes and they stink :p

Rabid_Wolverine

06-28-2006, 09:09 AM

As far as I'm concerned I haven't broken the rules since I haven't actually shown any bare parts. I don't see why I should be penalised or fined for the minority. Can we not all get along with our own thing without complaints? That's what I loved this forum for, the freedom to express yourself without others complaining about it. That's what made this forum the CB that I enjoy. That's what made this forum the CB I'm proud to be a member of. Please correct me if I'm wrong, I didn't mean to offend anyone but I've had my ecchi sigs for a while without any complaints. Why the sudden change of heart and the sudden complaints about something that has become part of the forum?

Z_Blitz

06-28-2006, 10:07 AM

This thread better go back on track or else it will be closed. Direct accusations to any member will result in a penalty on the accuser.

Hits

06-28-2006, 11:26 AM

Rabid, part of the reason is the to me, you are a respected member here and whatever I say against you might not good in my light. I shall be looked upon by some of the infantile members as the "ghey guy who hates boobs". But I have taken upon myself to voice my opinion to newer members if I feel that their sigs are too borderline of pornographic material. I wouldn't want to come across a gstring clad woman bending over while reading a thread about anime.

Rabid_Wolverine

06-28-2006, 12:48 PM

Ok ok ok I understand you all. It's all good anyway. Ecchi may be one of the points that made me stand out but I'm sure as hell not leaving the forum because of a new rule which bans it. You guys are all cool. I know you're all doing the best for the forum.

_Ink

06-28-2006, 09:41 PM

here is what I think, if you ban a person for having a lewd sig and avy, it only shows how narrowminded, and anti-sexual, and as well as sexist you are, you are already proclaiming the forum to be against it, what is furthermore you are helping people to see that you are not welcoming all members of the forum, and you are spacing them out, which is kinda like a sort of rascism, you know, like branding them = pervs.

So what? haven't you learn teh fact the internet is for porn?
trying to censor those in your sigs and avys, heh... i reckon that is pretty darn fanaticism if I haven't seen one, as long as it is not blatant nudity that hints it all, it would be fine, beside, why prove yourself wrong?

and if you have found anything better to do than going against people with lewd sigs and avy, why not petition on the net for a ban of porn on the net for real? seriously.

And frankly, just to spite you, check out my lewd cindy crawford by Raku, ooooohhh, she is asking for it, ennnngfffff ennnnnnfffffff! OOOOOHHHHH !

Some of Devildude's old sigs are borderline ecchi but he does a good job on keeping them classy and they look good. =)
Randomly huge pictures of girls' boobs or asses as sigs are just not my cup of tea.

OOOHH....
thanks, i am glad, i prefer something that is small and dainty, i usually keep the full blown ecchi for fapping.

Dounick

06-28-2006, 10:07 PM

graphic sigs and avatars such as hentai and what not. may be violent.

But if you ignore them and dont pay attention to them.... it makes your life a whole lot easier, and about 400 other peoples as well

And if the user likes to put these things in their avatar/signature.... then let them do so, because obviously they like to have it in there. And we dont see anyone bugging you about your gay looking penguin in your avatar do we?

we all have our tastes.... if you are trying to say your opinion about how you liek and you dont like.... im sure there are other people out there that can do the same to you :)

_Ink

06-28-2006, 10:19 PM

in simple words, don't try to be internet police, it is a laughable thing to do.

Dounick

06-28-2006, 10:22 PM

in simple words, don't try to be internet police, it is a laughable thing to do.
exactly.... those are the types of guys that stalk us, and sit at home getting fat and eating donuts :LOL:

i dont think any of us want that after us :)

KT Samurai

06-28-2006, 10:34 PM

in simple words, don't try to be internet police, it is a laughable thing to do.

Yeah, don't try to moderate or anything. That's just silly. :rolleye09

When you sign up on a forum you're agreeing to fly by their rules. If you don't like it use someone else's airspace. No one's twistin' your arm to be here.

What's too risque? Whatever the administrator says is too risque.

Dounick

06-28-2006, 10:37 PM

its kinda funny as well.... because in in his custom usertitle
what does it happen to say?
"9th Division Captain/perv"

hmm
sounds like a perv thing to me

Rabid_Wolverine

06-29-2006, 01:28 AM

I kind of feel like I was targeted with the recent ecchi banning actually. Considering the ecchi I uploaded after the yuri couple was even less ecchi. I do think it's stupid to ban ecchi sigs and shit and I agree with Nick and DD. However forums are forums and I guess we have to abide by rules whether we want to accept them or not. It's truly been a disappointment but this shouldn't drive anyone out of the forum. If anyone does leave because of this rule it just means they are ****ed up.

Nomadic Dragon

06-29-2006, 02:15 AM

I understand guys being guys and such, but really I think some of the sigs were getting out of hand. Dev's were always tasteful and covered parts that should be covered, but Buuhan's was almost totally nudity which in no way is tastefull. I'm not saying that we have to be internet police 'cause seriously that's never going to happen, but for me I consider that some of our members are young(like 12-13) and I think that having such things isn't right. Also once you sign up for a forum, as someone said before, you agree to follow the rules of the forum so live with it.

As a girl(yes I'm a girl damn it), I find such sigs appalling. Think of this, would you guys like to be browse the forums and see half naked guys everywhere? No, I don't think so. I think that if you are going to make something that's going to be publicly viewed, that you should have some consideration of the audience that's going to be viewing it.

KT Samurai

06-29-2006, 03:12 AM

but for me I consider that some of our members are young(like 12-13) and I think that having such things isn't right.
Let's not get all "somebody think of the children" on this thing now. Kids can see whole lot of sexuality and innuendo on moderated television as it is. There's nowhere a kid can look without bein' exposed to decidedly adult material. Trying to play the hero by makin' this forum totally kid-friendly ain't the answer, and it won't remedy anything.
Also once you sign up for a forum, as someone said before, you agree to follow the rules of the forum so live with it.
This is the only place where we can draw the line where forums are concerned. What's too much? Ask the administrator. He/She will let you know. Everyone's definition of "too much" is varied, so it's only logical to look to the person who runs the place to help us draw the line.
As a girl(yes I'm a girl damn it), I find such sigs appalling. Think of this, would you guys like to be browse the forums and see half naked guys everywhere? No, I don't think so. I think that if you are going to make something that's going to be publicly viewed, that you should have some consideration of the audience that's going to be viewing it.
I could care less if there were half-naked or even fully naked guys on this forum. As a male I'm pretty secure with myself and my sexuality and I'm not so easily bothered. Not everyone shares your mentality, and that might be difficult to comprehend.

This seriously isn't a big deal. It's turning into a battle of the sexes, for crying out loud.

Sarteck

06-29-2006, 05:47 AM

its kinda funny as well.... because in in his custom usertitle
what does it happen to say?
"9th Division Captain/perv"
hmm
sounds like a perv thing to me
What's that got to do with the topic? Heh. Look, I don't know if this thread had anything to do with the recent enforcement of the ecchi-in-spoilers rule, but I sure as heck didn't make the rule--don't get all bent out of shape at me. Heh.

As for something on-topic, heh...

We are a public forum. We do have younger members on here, yes. Someone said, "Let's not get all 'somebody think of the children' on this thing now. Kids can see whole lot of sexuality and innuendo on moderated television as it is." Well, why compare television to this forum? I think that we should keep the adult-oriented material on this forum tasteful, at the very least. Borderline porn isn't tasteful, no matter how much we like it, heh.

That brings me to another point. I like porn. Hell, I love it. Sometimes I watch it with my girlfriend. Sometimes I look at some really raunchy stuff. But that doesn't mean that I should go out and advertise it.

here is what I think, if you ban a person for having a lewd sig and avy, it only shows how narrowminded, and anti-sexual, and as well as sexist you are, you are already proclaiming the forum to be against it, what is furthermore you are helping people to see that you are not welcoming all members of the forum, and you are spacing them out, which is kinda like a sort of rascism, you know, like branding them = pervs.

So what? haven't you learn teh fact the internet is for porn?
trying to censor those in your sigs and avys, heh... i reckon that is pretty darn fanaticism if I haven't seen one, as long as it is not blatant nudity that hints it all, it would be fine, beside, why prove yourself wrong?

and if you have found anything better to do than going against people with lewd sigs and avy, why not petition on the net for a ban of porn on the net for real? seriously
Now rein in your horses just a second, there... How many people here live with their families, do you think? Young or old, if you're just innocently having fun at the forum, and your mother comes by and sees the kind of things that were in some sigs and avvies, here, you may (or may not, depending on how strict your parents were) get in trouble for it. Sometimes, when I visit my sister's house, I like to catch up on the forums real quickly. My three-year old nephew likes to comes sit with me sometimes, while I'm there when I get on the computer, and I can tell you that I sure as heck am hesitant to open some threads while he's around.

Can the Internet be used for porn? Hell yeah, I do it all the time. Should Club Bleach be used for porn, like you suggest here? **** no. That's just stupid. If Club Bleach was a porn site, I'd join some other Bleach forum, instead.

If you like Ecchi, and you want to advertise that fact, fine by me--there's the Ecchi FC for that. But no one has answered why someone should feel the need to advertise anything like that in their sigs and avvies, yet, in this thread--I've only seen *****ing about how the Man is trying to censor everything. :rolleye09

KT Samurai

06-29-2006, 09:32 AM

Someone said, "Let's not get all 'somebody think of the children' on this thing now. Kids can see whole lot of sexuality and innuendo on moderated television as it is." Well, why compare television to this forum?

That would be me.

I'd wager more kids surf the net than watch the tube. I compare this forum to television because their both a form of controlled media, only the forum has more interactivity. And it's not just television anyways. There are some filthy novels out there that are hailed by critics everywhere, widely read stuff that some people blame for inspiring serial killers (Catcher in the Rye, anyone?). The influence of one tiny forum won't make any difference, especially if things like nudity are approached maturely.

But hey, the line's drawn, jan? Ecchi's fine but straight up porn ain't. I can live with that. I've got other forums to satiate my filthy desires. I'm just sayin' that 1) one forum isn't going cause children's heads to explode, and 2) kids are actually smarter than you think. If you explain stuff to them they will (eventually) get it. Give' em some credit.

Sarteck

06-29-2006, 05:30 PM

But hey, the line's drawn, jan? Ecchi's fine but straight up porn ain't.Yeah... Unfortunately, there are some on this forum that either don't know or don't care about the difference. Heh. And this was in a recent thread I was reading, too, that someone just thought that it would be okay to post porn since ecchi was already there. (I'm not saying whom or where, since I'm sick and tired of being labelled as a goody goody two-shoes.)

For those of you that are pissed at me because you think I took your ecchi away, by the way, get bent. I reported no one. All I did was make this thread, and it was open for debate. So, stfu and quit your whining about me. Heh.

Rabid_Wolverine

06-29-2006, 05:35 PM

I don't think any of the more experienced members would blame anyone. Maybe some of the more junior member since they can't tell who from who on the forum.

Dounick

06-29-2006, 07:58 PM

(I'm not saying whom or where, since I'm sick and tired of being labelled as a goody goody two-shoes.)

heh...... quit setting yourself up for it then :)

Sarteck

06-30-2006, 04:42 AM

heh...... quit setting yourself up for it then :)
Setting myself up like, how?

Dounick

06-30-2006, 04:40 PM

Setting myself up like, how?
for everyone always putting you in the subject, and things like that
thought it was kinda obvious :eek13:

Sarteck

06-30-2006, 06:19 PM

for everyone always putting you in the subject, and things like that
thought it was kinda obvious :eek13:
Err... Still don't know what you are talking about. Heh. You'll have to be more clear.

Shinomori

06-30-2006, 06:34 PM

I'm not saying that we have to be internet police 'cause seriously that's never going to happen, but for me I consider that some of our members are young(like 12-13) and I think that having such things isn't right.

Uh oh!

Logic flaw find!

Sorry to say nomad, but if the 12 or 13 year olds are here, that means they've watched the show.

And what's in the show?

Uh oh....

here it comes....

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i319/projectx-zero/yoru.jpg

Boobs.

Of the same coverage as his were.

Must we now check to make sure they don't watch episode 41 as well?

If they're on this forum, you must assume that hey have parental consent and, from these two entirely reasonable assumptions, must assume that they are allowed to see at least partially unclad breasts.

Now, this is nothing against you, nor is it a statement that I think ecchi sigs should be allowed (I'm choosing to remain silent on the matter), it's just a point of fact.

Sarteck

07-11-2006, 05:41 AM

Oh! Three people that can't make an arguement just got pwned!

Serisouly, guys, if you have an arguement, make it. THis isn't some "that sucka got served" forum, it's Debates.

Tokoyami

07-12-2006, 12:25 AM

Oh! Three people that can't make an arguement just got pwned!

Serisouly, guys, if you have an arguement, make it. THis isn't some "that sucka got served" forum, it's Debates.

........................:eek13:

So anyways. I think that if u have a problem with the suggestive manner or a sig or Avi, you should PM the person about it. Otherwise i think that you should just get over it or PM an Admin if you think the exposure is to great.

7D$

07-12-2006, 12:28 AM

So, how risque can a sig be before it's tacky? ANd how risque can an avatar be before it's just wrong?
Some of us like to show creative artistic talent, which can lead to partial nudity in our sigs and avatars. Some of use are pervs who just like that kind of thing, heh. Some of us just want others to pay attention to us, so we use the most attention-grabbing picture we can.
Whatever the reason, it boils down to one thing: how risque is TOO risque? Just how much flesh can you show before it stops being tastful and starts becoming porn? Do you use risque pictures in your sig or avatar, and if so, why?
the limit for me is when i see ppl having sex. That would make it porn for me

but if i see a boob or a vagina, i dont think its porn, i just think of it: awww another delicious boob/vagina. (hopefully XD)

Tokoyami

07-12-2006, 12:32 AM

Lol, i agree, i dont have a problem with a boob. I could get over seein a vagina, but...i mean why have it there? If i saw one tho, i'd probably just look, say "wtf" out loud, then continue browsing and posting.

Rabid_Wolverine

07-12-2006, 12:38 AM

Oh! Three people that can't make an arguement just got pwned!

Serisouly, guys, if you have an arguement, make it. THis isn't some "that sucka got served" forum, it's Debates.

Which 3 and who got pwned? If you're talking about Shino, Nick and KT then they put up some pretty valid points. You can't just say they got pwned because you don't have a valid argument. That's not how a debate works. They put forward a point which they did and then you make an opposing statement.

The rules clearly state that the sigs and avatars are ok up to the point until someone complains about it. If no one complains then it's all dandy.

7D$

07-12-2006, 01:15 AM

Oke i just made myself a new sig and i wanna know wich line i crossed by the use of the render.

i think its just bs to ban/penalty ppl who have some ecchi in their sig cuz you will see lots and lots more nudity by xxx ads then ecchie sigs or avatars and if your a bit of grown up guy you have seen them, REAL not just a drawn chick.

Sarteck

07-12-2006, 03:26 AM

To those wondering, I was talking about the three posts I had to delete that just said "OMG you got pwnzored!!111!" from various people. RW, I was talking about you, Nick, and KT, who actually put up no points (valid or otherwise) for the debate.

@7D$, I think that penalizing for an ecchi sig is a bit over the limit, myself. Sure, I think some of them are crude, and that others have no taste, but so long as it's not out and out porn, I don't think there should be a penalty for it at all (and that it should not -have- to be placed in spoiler tags).

I just think that some people really have no taste, heh.

Rabid_Wolverine

07-12-2006, 03:27 AM

That's fair enough but the complete abolishment of the sigs is completely unfair and unecessary.

Sarteck

07-12-2006, 03:47 AM

Rabid, I think that even the spoiler thing is going a bit too far, personally. I mean, just because some of us (and, yes, I am one of them) think that a lot of the ecchi is rather tasteless, it doesn't mean that it should be hidden. I mean, who's to decide what exactly is or isn't ecchi, then? And what about me, who didn't even know what the **** "ecchi" meant until a week or two ago? XD

Like 7D$, I really like his sig, but would it be ecchi? I think it would, would it not?

Jaran

07-12-2006, 03:52 AM

Yes, 7D$'s beautiful display of the female form, elegantly reproduced with ink and paint, would be considered "ecchi".

I however, think that his sig is very tasteful. In fact, I might just start licking the screen... ;)

But seriously, putting a sig in spoiler tags or outright banning them is just prudish and ignorant. There's nothing wrong with the bodies that we have, as far as I know.

dragoneyes001

07-12-2006, 04:09 AM

well this thread made me remember a pic I'd seen quite a while ago i'm posting it below if its too risque it can be put in spoiler form by a mod.

this does have nudity.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c58/dragoneyes001/images.jpgthe original comment was "what freud really had on his mind"

7D$

07-12-2006, 07:46 AM

well i cant see wants on his head lol

If you someone banned me for this sig i have now lol then didnt do their job very well Since this is a render i got from n0sferatu a while back and he used it in a avatar himself lol so i just wanted to see what would happen ^^

Redfield

07-12-2006, 11:01 AM

Sarteck

07-12-2006, 05:52 PM

Do I see it as bad? No. Hell, i've dipped into the Masamune Shirow adult artbooks a few times for my sigs in the past. Should there be explicite sex? No. However, Simple nudity? Why care as long as the naughty bits aren't showing. Besides, Nudity can be a beautiful thing. Otherwise they would bring nude models in for college art students to sketch.
Oh...I would like to add one more thing.
So what if someone has slight nudity in their sig? Don't people see worse on the internet? Hell, don't people see worse on the media?!
The arguement "there is worse stuff on the Internet than that, anyway" is null and void. The rules are there for sigs that would fall under the rating of PG-13. If we followed that kind of logic, that "there is worse stuff on the Internet, anyway," we sure could post a hell of a lot of things here, true, but I sure as hell wouldn't want to come here.

I come here to have fun, chat about Bleach, organize stuff for my Division, etc. I'm on here a lot, sometimes when I'm other more public places. I wouldn't want to come here if I was going to be loading porn that my almost-four-year-old nephew would see, etc--I save the porn viewing for the privacy of my own place. :3

7D$

07-12-2006, 07:01 PM

Sarteck

07-12-2006, 07:17 PM

DUDE!!! you dont see porn here so what are you talking about lol a lil echhi is good for the human brain lol then it knows how the body is built XD haha
I was arguing the point that anything you see on the Internet would be fine to post here. ;)

7D$

07-12-2006, 08:02 PM

lol I misunderstanded you XD

sowwy Sawteck X3

Redfield

07-12-2006, 08:27 PM

The arguement "there is worse stuff on the Internet than that, anyway" is null and void. The rules are there for sigs that would fall under the rating of PG-13. If we followed that kind of logic, that "there is worse stuff on the Internet, anyway," we sure could post a hell of a lot of things here, true, but I sure as hell wouldn't want to come here.

Actually, there is a LOT worse than just seeing someone naked. You don't surf the net do you? Sure, I'm not saying "Go ahead and post pictures of anal rape in your signature, by all means!" I'm saying something ecchi can still be tasteful. What If some croped the Sistine Chapal ceiling and used part of it for a signature? Plenty of nude people painted up there, and the nudity is still tasteful. Artistic Nudity. I never said to post hardcore images, and I also never said to post full nude.

" Why care as long as the naughty bits aren't showing"

Naughty bits being any area you would otherwise not show in public. Something like 7D$ current sig, I would see no problem with.

I come here to have fun, chat about Bleach, organize stuff for my Division, etc.

I haven't been here long myself, however I do feel that most people are here for the same reasons. Those same members post the same risque avatars and sigs. As long as the sig remains PG-13, why limit them?

I'm on here a lot, sometimes when I'm other more public places. I wouldn't want to come here if I was going to be loading porn that my almost four-year-old nephew would see,

Pending on your browser, you can choose to not load images at all on a web page. This way you could still view the posts without the images to worry about.

etc--I save the porn viewing for the privacy of my own place. :3

If you have no problem viewing porn, then why is a picture with a guy/girl showing some skin a problem?

I'll say it again, as long as they aren't explicit sex or full frontal nudity, I don't so how the sig is a problem.

Also, I'm aware of the rules, I have already read them.

izza

07-13-2006, 12:45 AM

Showing a little skin is fine as long as it is nothing TOO flashy. I mean, there are some younger members roaming around these forums so you never know.

Sarteck

07-13-2006, 03:31 AM

@Redfield, we're on the same page, just not in the same paragraph. We both believe that there is nothing wrong with a little ecchi, so long as it isn't really full-blown nudity. As for the Sistine Chapel... well, I'm not a very artsy guy, so I don't really see the appeal in it. Heh.

Also, as I've said, I have no problem with a little ecchi. We both agree that some ecchi is just distasteful. I'm -not- saying that it should be banned or have special rules, I just wish that the people with said distasteful ecchi would exercise some restraint when using those images as avatars and sigs.

_Ink

07-13-2006, 05:28 AM

If you like Ecchi, and you want to advertise that fact, fine by me--there's the Ecchi FC for that. But no one has answered why someone should feel the need to advertise anything like that in their sigs and avvies, yet, in this thread--I've only seen *****ing about how the Man is trying to censor everything.

my bad for the late reply, let me put it this way, the fact they censor it in the ecchi FC itself was what I am pissed at, if you would, go ahead, check the limitations they impose on us, when in actual fact, this forum could have used the special consideration for us.

Of course, it is not like risque is risque at all, most of them are just well, girls in their bottoms and tops, it is not all that nude, if you are showing just plain nude, that would have been against the rules, naturally, people feel insulted because of the use of nudity.

Now think about it, i did not propose directly that CB be used for porn, after all, an all ages site is an all ages site, but, to limit at a level (say like that of minitokyo where the "purposeful" show of underwear is not allowed) would be nothing more than proposing fanaticism, over censorship that is.

I don't wanna see CB in such a state of self narrowing behavior, also, it limites, indirectly, the showing of artistic capabilities (much like mine, I tend to add more designs to ecchi sigs to cover them up), and it is censorship, and we know censorship is the stupidest thing any person could think up for the WWW. Internet Police LOL!

I ask you, would you prefer the net where at every second, some admin is breathing down your neck cause you are on the black list of ecchi lovers who posts them everywhere?

I am sure you don't, imagine if they censor debates, if they censor blood, censor action, foul languages (as in you can't even say Damn) Oh my, the vanity of self preservation of morality and values of a website.... such great honor and practices.

Sarteck

07-13-2006, 06:21 AM

I don't think that all censorship should be lumped as "fanaticism." Heh. We have a cursing filter on these boards, after all; is that fanatacism? Or is it because we don't wants to see posts from idiots swearing every other ****ing word. XD I've never been to this minitokyo site, but if their members don't want to see tasteless pictures, then I suppose that rule is good for them. It's the same principle, and it doesn't seem fanatical to me. :3

I don't visit the Ecchi FC, either--I like ecchi every now and then, I'm just not a fanatic about it. XD

Censorship of all things is fanatical, yes, as is the censorship of nothing.

RukiaYuza

07-13-2006, 06:33 AM

Hello! :)
I think that if someone is in an Ecchi forum or a show that has a lot of Ecchi imagery then a Ecchi avatar or siggy could or should be alright. However I think on normal message boards like this one they really should not be used. I believe they are a distraction. Also if there was a extremely Ecchi avatar or siggy it might make it where some younger posters might not be able to post because of concerned parents. I know that most that watch Bleach and are on this board do not have that problem but that is something to be considered. Now I think that it shows that the community as a whole is more dignified when there are not a lot of Ecchi avatars and siggies. Sometimes it can be hard to decide what is Ecchi too. One person's idea of Ecchi may not be anothers. So I think that it is a wise idea to play it safe on message boards.

_Ink

07-13-2006, 06:38 AM

7D$

07-13-2006, 12:54 PM

Just like DD said if there isnt any actually porn in your sig and ava then you aint voilating a rule and my meaning of Ecchi is that you can nearly see the naughty spots just like in my sig lol

Dang DD nice ava XD

Sarteck

07-13-2006, 06:22 PM

then it would be nice if they can make a separate subforum for us ecchi lovers, then we can compromise. Otherwise, I still regard that as censorship fanaticism, likewise telling us what to do is all cool, what you can do and not, but telling us to wear more clothing in a free country (pretend I am saying this community is a free country) is like becoming the Taliban.

The rules are clear enough, just don't try to pull the veil over the visibly less affected things.
Wait, what? What about when we tell people not to flame, are we being fanatic? SHould we create a sub-forum for flaming, then? Flaming is also frequent on the Internet, after all, and we'll run into it anyway, so we should just let people do it, otherwise we're censoring them...

...or not. Like I've been saying, I don't mind a bit of ecchi here. I do think that some people could choose to be a bit more tasteful with their ecchi, yes. I don't know why the new rules were imposed, but I'm thinking that perhaps someone took the ecchi too far for someone else's liking, and complained about it.

Let's take the FanClubs here as an example... some are rather tame, others get pretty wild, or just downright sick. I had complained about the creation of a Lolita fanclub, because I've got a problem with encouraging child pornography. That FC went too far, I complained, so now there's less freedom (i.e., the creation of such FanClubs).