Prince of Tennis

[Angel_shikigami]

If Agito (From Airgear) fought Renji (If you don't know what anime he's from, I fear for you) Who would win?

This would be close cuz Renji is stronger but Agito is faster with his ATs. I'd have to say Agito cuz he would be too fast for Renji

[Aleolus]

OK, two bouts for this thread.

In the first arena, in the red corner, wielding a Zankato and the powers of a Soul Reaper, Ichigo!
And in the blue corner, wielding a giant demonic blade, made from his father's fang, InuYasha!

In the second arena, in the red corner, wielding a sword of energy passed down from his granfather, loved by six different girls from different planets, Tenchi Masaki!
And in the blue corner, wielding the Sword of Light, sometimes called the Sure-Kill Sword, the idiot of Slayers himself, Gourry Gabriev!

[Silhouette]

1. How do you not know who Krillin is?! He's like... The infamous weakling of DB/Z/GT!!!

2. It doesn't go by who you know/don't know, or who you like/hate, according to the rules, which I am too lazy to quote.. Psh. >.>

[Joe Black]

Alright, let's see. I enjoy riddles! :3

Brackets are my comments

-Can move at speeds much faster than light

[That means his opponent must move at the speed of 'Dark Matter', which is the fastest scientifically anything can go. Of course, in theory.]

-Can will himself back from nothingness as he is the Dark Adam and ONLY another Adam can kill him permanently

[That rules out the "anti-matter" version of him, which would cancel him out.]

-Holds the 7 pieces of the Judas Pain in him which is essentially reality itself. He can't be willed out of existence, sent to another dimension and imprisoned, or go back in time to kill him. It also eats at his soul, but he waves off most the effects except memory loss, meaning no psychic power in the universe can mind control or mind rape him.

-Has Spellbound, a shield that changes with his desires. He can make it so there is no air at all in an area he chooses or can prevent physical or energy attacks. He can also place specific limitations.

[So, you need someone that would not be affected by all forms of reality AND have something that negates the effects of Spellbound before he CHOOSES to activate it's powers, such as his limitatations, which might negate his opponent's ability to not be affected by reality.]

-Has the highest level spells of every magic type but white.

[I guess he wouldn't need white, because he already has regeneration... If his opponent had white powers, maybe that would give an edge. *shrugs*]

-Has slept with every woman in the series and can seduce any woman.

[AUTOMATIC WIN! if he can do that, he can do whatever he wants. :P]

Hmm... need someone that wouldn't fight conventionally, although most non-conventional ways are already negated by his powers. I'll think hard on this, and find a loophole to his power. I might not find an answer tho. haha

[Decado]

i only know of Ichigo (Bleach) Vs. InuYasha (InuYasha).

Ichigo would win...Even if his bankai doesn't do it his
hollow or Viazard form will

[Yuki]

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo T.T *does harakiri* *dies*

[Planeswalker]

The Japanese have too many holidays T_T

[Planeswalker]

Ichigo easily. Inuyasha is far to weak. The wind scar attack takes far too much time to launch. A Shunpo behind Emoyahsa and its all over.

Never seen Tenchi Muyo so no opinion on that one.

[iLeo]

lol, I've watched this awhile ago, it's a pretty good anime. Pretty amusing, but the powers these guys have are abit overused. Like naruto's sharingan...

[Kuroi Getsuga Tenshou]

What Am I Gonna Do?
What Am I Gonna Do?
What Am I Gonna Do?
What Am I Gonna Do?
What Am I Gonna Do?!!!!!!!!!!!!

I NEED my ONE PIECE-FIX.........:sadd: :sadd: :sadd:

[Planeswalker]

Theres always the anime...ADC just released 284...pity half of it is stuff we have already seen.

[Poetikal]

Tenchi Masaki after he becomes the God of his Multiverse

[slave_car]

w8... an immoratl is usualy some1 who cant die of natural death (age, sicknesss... ) and that are usualy all vampires and most supernatural creatures... this thing that Alucard has is more like invincability cuz he can`t die from nothing, but corect me if i`m wrong... :)

[slave_car]

hey i have to have this megaupload tolbar shayt right?

[Malice]

Hmmm that osn't always the point but you bring a valid point into this fiscussion. He may not be able to die because he has the ability to revive oneself from death. Rejuvenation, regenertion, bot of these are key to immortality.what you probably see with Alucard is his ability yo regenerate. because form what I've seen hi body hasn't been diintergrated completly. Maybe he has the restortative abilities similar to Cell from DBZ. You can argue this if you want but this is how I see it.

[Undying]

Very good stuff.

The plot is interesting and the battle are intense (at least so far). The protagoinist is very interesting also, unlike in many anime where he gets boring evntually.

Definitly a good show.

[Aleolus]

Ichigo easily. Inuyasha is far to weak. The wind scar attack takes far too much time to launch. A Shunpo behind Emoyahsa and its all over.

Never seen Tenchi Muyo so no opinion on that one.

Apparently you haven't seen the later episodes, where InuYasha gets the ability to do the Wind Scar whenever he wants. At the same time, he also gets the Backlash Wave, which lets him bounce any, and I mean ANY, energy-type attack sent at him. Later on, Tetsusaiga also gains upgrades that let it cut through most any barrier (except Naraku's), and a move called "Adamant Barrage," where shards of something coat Tetsusaiga, then all break apart and fly at the enemy, cutting them to ribbons.

[Jimmyz]

Hey, a while ago now i was watching e-TV through winamp, and i came accross this anime on. i cant remember if it said if it was a film or a series.

all i know there was normal people, and then there was people in like... battle suit things, like robots aye.

what i remember is that, there was 2 "armies" in suits, 1 was in like a building, obv. theirs, and the other musta been attacking or summit. and then there was this lass, (mighta been a different building) who kicked off killing peeps.

and i was wondering if anyone might know what it mighta been. lol.

i know its vague and im sorry. but any ideas / names would be great, i'll just google image the names and see if i recongnise any.

thanks in advance for any help, and any thought given to this thread.

first post woot. :P

<3

[OutLawBankai]

gundam maybe?

[Decado]

Zoids...
Gundam...
Tekkaman / Teknoman...

[VipER]

hey they have up to ep7 now u can DL it from this site...
http://www.tokyotosho.com/index.php?cat=3

key in Bakumatsu in the search, u'll get the whole list...hope this will help u guys...its a pretty good anime...enjoy...

[Silhouette]

There were already 2 Inuyasha vs Ichigo threads made.. Meh.

[M_Ghey]

Has anyone else seen this amazing retelling of Alexandre's Dumas. I don't expect a lot of people to know of this one, but if you have seen it, please post your thoughts. :Domo

[SLVR]

Very cool. I wish more animations were like that. see my ava

[M_Ghey]

Yeah. The COunt, nice ava. Anyways, I don't remember any other anime with such amazing animation, besides maybe Kenshin: Trust and Betrayal.

[Poison Ivy]

ok wel most ppl who are good christians dont have nething 2 do w/ vampires "because its against tha religion" but im in a religion its rerequired 2 know at least 1 thing bout vampires be it from movies, manga, anime, or folk/myth stories

[M_Ghey]

Hmmm that osn't always the point but you bring a valid point into this fiscussion. He may not be able to die because he has the ability to revive oneself from death. Rejuvenation, regenertion, bot of these are key to immortality.what you [robaly s with Alucard is his ability yo regenerate. because form what I've seen hi body hasn't been diintergrated completly. Maybe he has the restortative abilities similar to Cell from DBZ. You can argue this if you want but this is how I see it.

BTW, when I used the term immortal, I meant literally unable to die by ANY means, but I can see how my wording was confusing.

Your statement is sound, yet it depends on what you mean by disintegrated completely. If you mean each atom in his body is instantly pulled away from the rest and somehow destroyed then he might die, i do not know, but I find that scenario doubtful. The truth is, Alucard is not susceptible to anything that other vampires are weak to. And he did get blown up by grenades in the manga and stabbed hundreds of times by Anderson, including through the heart. My reasoning on this matter is simple, if no one can come up with a realistic way that Alucard can possibly be killed, then he cannot die. And remember, he never used even 60% of his power in the manga or anime.

[Malice]

BTW, when I used the term immortal, I meant literally unable to die by ANY means, but I can see how my wording was confusing.

Your statement is sound, yet it depends on what you mean by disintegrated completely. If you mean each atom in his body is instantly pulled away from the rest and somehow destroyed then he might die, i do not know, but I find that scenario doubtful. The truth is, Alucard is not susceptible to anything that other vampires are weak to. And he did get blown up by grenades in the manga and stabbed hundreds of times by Anderson, including through the heart. My reasoning on this matter is simple, if no one can come up with a realistic way that Alucard can possibly be killed, then he cannot die. And remember, he never used even 60% of his power in the manga or anime.


What I meant was you see Alucard being shot to pieces by gunfire, which is literally ripping him apart. Most of his body is disintergrated by this. But still he reforms to perfect health with no defections on him, as if it were nothing. that's what I meant. he gets a multiimpalement from tat crazy knife weilding preist. and he still lives. It's like he made a pact with the lord of darkness. (Lol, not saying his name cause it'll traumatise the religous folk.) Anyway, he seemingly ignores all injuries though technically he broke the immortal law. (If an Immortal's head os severed they cannot revive. This law was created from things like Spawn and Highlander.) But meh your point is acknowledged.

ok wel most ppl who are good christians dont have nething 2 do w/ vampires "because its against tha religion" but im in a religion its rerequired 2 know at least 1 thing bout vampires be it from movies, manga, anime, or folk/myth stories

Lol. I'm no Christian. I believe what I want, Not what I'm told to believe. Regardless if you all call me a heratic or not. So yeah I believe in lots of stuff from various cultures.E.g Bahamut and Tiamut from Babylonian myths, Odin, Thor, Tyr and Ragnarok from the Norsk myths, etc, etc.
I stopped listing cause I'd be here all day.

If this offends, I apologise.

[Miss M]

Sakura Wars?
Apple Seed?
-.-'' *doesn't have any idea*

[Lust]

neon evagelion? come on be specific so we can help you........

[M_Ghey]

Lol. I'm no Christian. I believe what I want, Not what I'm told to believe. Regardless if you all call me a heratic or not. So yeah I believe in lots of stuff from various cultures.E.g Bahamut and Tiamut from Babylonian myths, Odin, Thor, Tyr and Ragnarok from the Norsk myths, etc, etc.
I stopped listing cause I'd be here all day.

If this offends, I apologise.

YAY, we have a compromise on Alucard!
BTW, I don't think anyone can be offended just because you have different beliefs, so you really shouldn't apologise for that. I think slave_car's sig is more offensive than anything said here. I mean it's cool, but it makes my skin crawl, lol.

[Planeswalker]

Apparently you haven't seen the later episodes, where InuYasha gets the ability to do the Wind Scar whenever he wants. At the same time, he also gets the Backlash Wave, which lets him bounce any, and I mean ANY, energy-type attack sent at him. Later on, Tetsusaiga also gains upgrades that let it cut through most any barrier (except Naraku's), and a move called "Adamant Barrage," where shards of something coat Tetsusaiga, then all break apart and fly at the enemy, cutting them to ribbons.

Ive seen all of Emoyasha.

But apparantly you havent watched Bleach at all. Ichigo was able to cut millions of Byakuya's tiny blades in an instant. Byakuya shunpo'd behind Renji from 200m away in an instant. Its too damn fast for any Inuyasha character.

And who says Ichigo uses an energy attack? He hardly ever uses energy attacks. He is a head on person and with bankai speed Inuyasha is dead in a second.

Prove me wrong...show me that Inuyasha can move that fast.

[M_Ghey]

I guess Agito, it's hard to decide, Renji isn't too slow himself.

[Poetikal]

Agreed. Inuyasha get completely PWNED.

But for the second fight it depends. If this is Tenchi at his full power he OMG OWNS Gourry. Seeing as Tenchi at full power is a God

[Jimmyz]

Hey, sorry for not being very specific, i didnt really get into anime until now so i kinda forgot =[

its not neon evangelion, nor is it Sakura Wars or appleseed (have AS on dvd), Tekkaman/Teknoman, or gundam and zoids.

from what i remember, the way it was drawn / done, looked very clean and modern, not really bright etc like some gundam and zoids.

looks like this is a dead end :( thanks anyway guys! if i find out what it is, i will post here, to show how stupid i am :P

/j

[Aleolus]

He can, if Kagome is in trouble. He has a couple times when fighting his brother, Sessomaru. And you're right, I haven't seen much of Bleach, but I'm trying to remedy that fact.

And Tenchi is not quite a god a full power, though he is close. Gourry can put up a good fight though. Say what you will about his intelligence, when it comes to combat, the boy knows his stuff.

[Yuki]

Yeah, damn straight... I want to see Lucci vs Luffy in the anime :D I want to see Sanji fighting too ^^

[Nrvnqsr Chaos]

enough of the reminders, just show the anime!!!!:sad

[Planeswalker]

Even if Kagome is in trouble it doesnt mean that he can suddenly reach the speed where he disapeers and reapeers 200m somewhere else in a heartbeat. Animes have their limits.

[Aleolus]

Moving 200 meters in the blink of an eye isn't speed either, it's teleportation. And the only limits animes have on them are the ones their creators put in them.
Note, I'm not saying InuYasha would win, I just think it would be a more even match than you guys seem to be giving credit for.

[Planeswalker]

Its speed. Teleportation is the dematerialisation of stuff and rematerialisation somewhere else. Speed is just a transport of mass. The speed of light isnt teleportation but its damn fast.

[Poison Ivy]

i think is cute but thats just who i am

@malice like the other guy (not putting name there b-cause it would sound like im calling him master) said u shouldnt apoligize i mean yea ppl r mean sumtimes and make fun of u cause of ur beliefs like for instance(on a personal note) my friends call me the queen of hell b/c we all think that when i die imma go take over hell and ppl look at me weird for that (wait i just noticed this is like way off topic) but point being most ppl dont get offended by ppls beliefs much nemore

[Ren]

*randomly gives suggestion*

Patlabor?

[Kenta]

it was a very interesting anime to say the least. the artwork was unique and the moments were gripping. i was hoping for some albertxhaydee moments though. :\

[M_Ghey]

Yeah, that would have been hawt, yet nothing between them happened in the book, so it is understandable that nothing happened between those two in the anime.

[Kenta]

well, the only scene was when albert was carrying her near the end.

[Malice]

i think is cute but thats just who i am

@malice like the other guy (not putting name there b-cause it would sound like im calling him master) said u shouldnt apoligize i mean yea ppl r mean sumtimes and make fun of u cause of ur beliefs like for instance(on a personal note) my friends call me the queen of hell b/c we all think that when i die imma go take over hell and ppl look at me weird for that (wait i just noticed this is like way off topic) but point being most ppl dont get offended by ppls beliefs much nemore

I kinda understand what you mean, but I apologise anyway to ensure I haven't caused offense to others. Is it just me or does the modernistic world have no patience for one's beleifs or values? That we must stick to the stereotypes or be shunned by all forms of existence. I strayed away from that and became a lonewolf. meh sorry to prattle on like that. So let's get back to the topic at hand.

[Grimjaw_Bankai]

hell the smoke smoke fruit i can make a mean chicken then

[MidoriSangatsu]

Alucard all the way lol XD i love Hellsing

[M_Ghey]

I kinda understand what you mean, but I apologise anyway to ensure I haven't caused offense to others. Is it just me or does the modernistic world have no patience for one's beleifs or values? That we must stick to the stereotypes or be shunned by all forms of existence. I strayed away from that and became a lonewolf. meh sorry to prattle on like that. So let's get back to the topic at hand.

Well, if everyone always stuck to stereotypes, our world would be quite different today, don't you think? There is nothing wrong having out of the ordinary beliefs, i know i have some. People who get offended because someione else is different are simply close-minded and unable to accept different beliefs and ideas.

Anyway, so pretty much evertone is picking Alucard, huh? Can't say that I'm surprised.

[MidoriSangatsu]

the only thing i really took offense in what he is saying is that i'm not a good christian because i had an opinion which ANIME vampyre was the coolest

[M_Ghey]

lol, first of all it's she. ANyway, I don't think she really meant it that way, i dunno.

Just because you think vampires are cool doesn't mean that you are not a good christian, it just means you aren't a faulty stereotypical one. I know many christians who watch anime with vamires and such and listen to metal, that doesn't mean that they are bad christians, in my opinion. :)

[Lincoln1587]

Why would an anime company make someone as strong as that? How could they possible have battles? Its just too crazy.

[SomberChaos]

Anyways, I would say Alucard. since he is immortal.

Immortality could suck tho, even Alucard was tied up and kinda.....withered in the manga till he was awoken. why would you want to be immortal and asleep?

Also, death gives life purpose. to quote Our Lady Peace (a band you fools)

"Take death for example.
A great deal of our effort goes into avoiding it.
We make extraordinary efforts to delay it and often consider
its intrusion a tragic event.
Yet we'd find it hard to live without it.
Death gives meaning to our lives. It
gives importance and value to time.
Time would become meaningless if there were too much of it.
If death were indefinitely put off, the human psyche would end
up, well, like the gambler in the Twilight Zone episode. "

RECONSIDER IMMORTALITY! :D

[M_Ghey]

Immortality could suck tho, even Alucard was tied up and kinda.....withered in the manga till he was awoken. why would you want to be immortal and asleep?

Also, death gives life purpose. to quote Our Lady Peace (a band you fools)

"Take death for example.
A great deal of our effort goes into avoiding it.
We make extraordinary efforts to delay it and often consider
its intrusion a tragic event.
Yet we'd find it hard to live without it.
Death gives meaning to our lives. It
gives importance and value to time.
Time would become meaningless if there were too much of it.
If death were indefinitely put off, the human psyche would end
up, well, like the gambler in the Twilight Zone episode. "

RECONSIDER IMMORTALITY! :D

Well, no one ever said that Alucard had a really meaningful life. In fact, my opinion is that Alucard's life is boring, since everyone he fights is weak (in his opinion) and he is stuck obeying a human. I agree with your point about death making life meaningful, though.

BTW, please use SPOILER tags when talking about things that happen in anime or manga, just in case.

[SomberChaos]

lol teach me how.
im new remember!

[M_Ghey]

lol teach me how.
im new remember!
lol, i dunno, maybe the SPOILER button is working now.

EDIT: nope, it's not. ask someone smart! i dunno...

[SomberChaos]

hahahahahahah. LOL!

[M_Ghey]

Anyway, since we all established that Alucard is the baddest vampire, who would be the 2nd baddest?

I would say Incognito, from the Hellsing anime, i mean he is the closest vampire to Alucard's strength that i've seen, even though he is still not even close to him.

[SomberChaos]

Count Magnus Lee ftw!

[Shinigami_Josh]

abel nightroad, when he was contra mundi... one screwed up kid

[Poison Ivy]

yea abel wait hes not a vampire*smacks head* duh but have u guys seen him at 80% power output

@midori: wat i meant is that most christians that watch vampire nething arnt good christians b/c they dont follow all the rules (i mean good christian as in those people that follow all the rules and look at u weird and walk away when u break one little rule it so anoying)

[MidoriSangatsu]

thank you for correcting me on he (i remember reading something an drawing the she conclusion then forgot it when i posted lol) YAY I'm not a bad christian :D

[Evanesque]

I think that's an awesome wig...true, good cosplays are rare..

[Malice]

This is a battle between the swordsman. who'd win? Kenshin is From Rurouni Kenshin (samurai x) Jubei Kimigami is from Ninja Scoll

Rules: No special attacks or techniques. they both fight with normal swords, not Kenshin's Sakabatou
The arena is a beach (Like the one Kenshin fights Einishi on in Samurai X Reflection) and the time is night.
These details wil help you visualise the duel.

Let the opinions come forth.

[Malice]

Quote from MidoriSangatsu
Thanks for reading Malice

It was a pleasure.

From master_aizen
Just because you think vampires are cool doesn't mean that you are not a good christian, it just means you aren't a faulty stereotypical one. I know many christians who watch anime with vamires and such and listen to metal, that doesn't mean that they are bad christians, in my opinion.

I agree with that. I mean just cause you're a religous person doesn't mean you have to act the stereotype. I'm a spiritual guy and I don't follow any stereotype. I respect your values and beliefs but I hate it when people try to force me to see things their way. I personally have no problems against anyone. Yall got your values and ethics, They may differ but I'll respect and accept that. anyway I mean no ill will towards anyone in my previous postings. If I offended, I sincerly apologise. Anyway enough bout religion Back to the topic.

[I fail at life]

Why would an anime company make someone as strong as that? How could they possible have battles? Its just too crazy.
Well,why would they make Superman? :p

For the same reason really :p

[Kazmiz]

It's easy. Have the producers remove him from the show, and the editor from the manga, and there you go, no more dark schneider.

[Aleolus]

Who could beat Dark Schnieder? I say Naraku could beat Dark Schnieder. While he doesn't have DS's speed, or his arsenal of spells, Naraku does have several of the same qualities as DS. Namely, his ability to recover from ANY injury incredibly rapidly, even if it would kill anyone else. He has been completely disintigrated a couple times, and STILL managed to come back! Plus, his miasma practically eats anything inside of it, from skin and bone to solid stone and metals. Nothing can protect against it very long. So, while DS would put up a good fight, and blast Naraku to bits a few times, I think the contest would ultimatly be Naraku's.

[Mutant Turtle]

It's no contest! Sailor Moon would in every time! The reasons?

A : She's cute (I know it means nothing in fighting, but if your cute in Anime, it means your strong)

B : She dazzles the enemies with her transformation then her speech about punishing you in the name of the moon! (Notice how she is NEVER attacked when she's making her tranformation and speech?)

C : EVERY time she goes up against an opponent who is the SLIGHTEST bit stronger than her she gets a new wand/sceptre/gadget/broach that allows her to transform into an even MORE powerfull Sailor Moon.

D : Kriillin has never hit a girl, not even Android 16, who was his enemy and ended up marrying.

I rest my case.

[ichi-ichi-tactic]

Krillin would lose due to a instantaneous fascination with Sailor Moon's boobs.
yup, yup that sounds pretty good.

[ichi-ichi-tactic]

Uhhhh wouldn't Renji just use shunpo? Though Agito is a great character and fighter he has no chance against a vice-captain.

[ichi-ichi-tactic]

Personally i'm a Squall hater too. Albel has wicked speed and when someone has more speed they tend to win as the fight goes on. Albel would just dodge any magic, the only way Squall could win is if he pulled off a Lionheart or a GF.

[Mutant Turtle]

Krillin would lose due to a instantaneous fascination with Sailor Moon's boobs.
yup, yup that sounds pretty good.

Actually it would be a fascination with Sailor Jupiter's boobs, since Sailor Moon has been described as "Flat Chested" by Sailor Mars (Rei Chan) and even her enemies called her a "flat chested wimp". I thought she would have steam coming out of her ears! On a more serious note, Sailor Jupiter got has the largest chest size. This is fact, not fancy, as she mentions her "considirable Assetts" at the end of the first season, saying she should be leader because of them! And you can get Sailor Facts from many web sites dedicated to Sailor Moon.

[ichi-ichi-tactic]

Omg how dare you do this to Kon!
Unforunately Kon would lose when Pikachu decided to use him for a chew toy ;_;

[ichi-ichi-tactic]

*looks at post above*
O_O

[SomberChaos]

krillin would freak out and just sit there like he always does in dbz, hopefully sailor moon would seize the moment and put us all out our misery by eating krillin alive.

[M_Ghey]

Sailor Moon ftw. THey are hot, so they get my vote!

[Silhouette]

@Raven: Kryptonite pwns Superman. DS doesn't seem to have a kryptonite.. Or maybe he does, but I'm too lazy to read about how great he is again.. >.>

[Silhouette]

Damnit people! Read the rules! THE RULES! RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWR!

[M_Ghey]

lol, pikachu would fry kon's ass

[mrk]

pikachu has thunderbolt

thunderbolt = kon in flames

therefore, thunderbolt > kon

and therefore pikachu > kon

[Silhouette]

Albel's Aura Wall would stop Squall from hitting him head on. Albel would probably then use Hand of Doom/Palm of Destruction while Squall is paralyzed. Meh. Albel also has Air Slash, which would keep Squall from simply using magic/GFs from afar..

*thinks* Squall's still got a few advantages though.

His moves are, in my opinion, more powerful. Rough Divide would probably slice through the Aura Wall. Although Albel would dodge Squall's Fated Circle, and he wouldn't have time to charge up Blasting Zone, Lionheart could win it for him. Provided, of course, he has enough time to charge his sword up.. >: /

Squall is too fast for most of Albel's moves, unless he gets caught offguard by Albel's Aura Wall, it could go either way, depending on which one uses a better strategy.

[Mugen]

Depends on how Squall is junctioned.........but If he has the right stats he could take on Albel anyday but ALbel would also put up a mean fight before going down so he gets props for that and I liked him the most out of all the SO3 characters.

[Captain BenZ]

Being one of the biggest FFVIII fans, I would give a reason as to why Squall would beat Albel but unfortunately, I haven't played a single Star Ocean game, so now I am provoked to play the game, beat it, and then come back giving a logical reason for who would win, though my guts still tell me Squall would win. :p

[TargaryenX]

Now if they were to fight underwater, it'd be a different story, Tidus can hold his breath for longer than any human has a right to.

[TargaryenX]

Well it seems like the only person who can beat dark schneider is...dark schneider. I don't think it says anywhere that he's immune to having his energy and power stolen either. So I would say it would simply take someone who can either copy powers and abilities perfectly, or someone who can steal powers. So um...Rogue? Majin Buu? Kumichika (lol)? Anyone got any others?

[Mugen]

heh lol this is such an Unfair Fight........Fayt just has a very awesome move set while Tidus just has his silly little swordplay skills just one Ethereal Blast would blow Tidus Straight to hell.

[Silhouette]

No GFs!

@mugen:

Meh. If you want to use stats, then Squall would be dead in one hit. SO3 has higher stats; max hp - 99,999/mp - Don't remember..., stats that can go to...I can't remember, and a max damage of 99,999 (per hit).

Whereas Albel can do 99,999 with one hit, it would take Squall's strongest attack, Lionheart, to even come close.

@Benjamin: It's a great game. A little slow at first, but it picks up.. *cough*evenwithafewstupidplottwists..*coughs*

And with all my reasoning and imput aside, I too, ...for some odd reason, feel that Squall would win. >: /

[Silhouette]

The problem with that is.. Rogue would go insane with DS's powers, and probably die. Kumichika..would run at the sight of DS. And Buu? Psh. He'd have to turn DS into candy first, or absorb him with a piece of his body. Neither of which is possible. He'd be dead in seconds..

[hasuke]

I must be the only person on this forum fully aware of the Nasuverse...it's sad.

[hasuke]

Patlabor isn't clean and modern.

I havn't seen it, but maybe you're thinking of Code Geass? These threads are really starting to get irritating, especially when people suck at typing.

[Poison Ivy]

um so does abel count as a vampire

and im not apoligizing bout nething cause im sick and tired of hearing bout jesus and all that stuff it bad enough that my mom makes me go 2 church

[SnowManZero]

You know, it might actually be Gasaraki. I'm not sure.

[Silhouette]

Ok, both mages. Both transform many times, and have an Aeon/Summon that is the strongest in their respective games. (Although the Magus Sisters from X aren't that bad.. Anima pwns them! >.>)

They both start off in their normal forms. They can transform into any form they choose to at any time. Ultimecia can summon Griever, and Seymour can summon Anima. Although, they can both banish Aeons/GFs, so that wouldn't last long..

Who would win and why? :eek13:

[Silhouette]

Meh.. This part of the forums is getting dull. I'm gonna change that! >.>

Jack Russell (Radiata Stories) vs Sora (Kingdom Hearts)

Both of them are goofy looking teenagers. The same age, I believe.. And at the end of each game, I still couldn't believe that I defeated a villian as powerful as they had to face...using them. Psh. >.>

Anywho.. FIGHT!

{edit}Almost forgot:

- No summons.
- Neither of the two can get help. It's strictly one on one..
- They both have access to all of their weapons, spells, etc..
- No item usage.
- Jack can be wearing any armor you want him to when you give your opinion on how the fight will end out..

{edit}Don't tell me that no one here on CB has ever played Radiata Stories? Wtf is that about? =_="

These are his moves: http://www.radiata-stories.com/?cb=volty

[Silhouette]

Bah. Too many giant robot anime.. Eureka 7, maybe?

[Silhouette]

Battle of the Supreme!

On one side: Seymour Omnis(FFX), Ultimecia in her final form(FFVIII), and Aphelion(Radiata Stories)

On the other: Lenneth Valkyrie (Radiata Stories version), Gabriel Celeste (Star Ocean 3 version), and the Ethereal Queen (Radiata Stories version)

On one side, you have two Goddesses, and one..Archangel, and on the other, two of the most powerful mages of the FF series(maybe), and the dark dragon of the moon, Aphelion.

Which side would win in this all out battle of Good vs Evil? (Even though Aphelion was somewhat good, but did evil things to accomplish his noble goals..)

{edit}Wait.. Is the Ethereal Queen evil? Psh. Ah, who cares.. She looks angel-ish. >: /

[Aleolus]

Well it seems like the only person who can beat dark schneider is...dark schneider. I don't think it says anywhere that he's immune to having his energy and power stolen either. So I would say it would simply take someone who can either copy powers and abilities perfectly, or someone who can steal powers. So um...Rogue? Majin Buu? Kumichika (lol)? Anyone got any others?

*Snaps his fingers* Ah-ha! I have it! I know who could copy his powers and beat him! It is... Wait for it...






























KIRBY!!!!!

[Yuki]

I bet that would be Chuck Norris. With his spining kick and his power could beat anyone... We hope we could get someday some Chuck Norris tears...

[Malice]

let's see Raziel from soul reaver, Sephiroth from FF7, Zodd from Berserk. That's for starters.

[Shinji]

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表紙　「スペンシー中尉敵前逃亡の無念」

ゾロ「お前らウソップの事はちゃんとハラを括ったな！？」　「これが筋ってもんだ・・・」

ル「おい　いつまで落ち込んでんだ　最初からその額すげぜぞ」
サ「うるせぇ！！何で俺だけ絵なんだよ！！！これのどこがおれだ！？あぁ！！？」
ゾ「そんなもんだぞお前は・・・」
サ「△□×～」
ゾ「言葉にしろわからねぇ」
サ「笑われるんだ・・・俺は世界中のレディから」
ナ「ダマされた・・・町の雑誌の記者だった言ってたのに　かわいく撮れてるからそれはいいけど　とうとう私 も賞金首か・・・」
チョ「おれだって海賊だぞ！ちゃんと男らしく戦ったんだ！もの申すぞ　５０ベリー！！」
ル「まー次頑張れよ！」

ガレーラ前にて
「急ぐんだわいな！アニキが待ってるわいな」
「もう行っちゃうのー？海賊ねーちゃん達」
「忘れ物すんなよー！！船とフランキー貰って出航するぞ」
「サンキが動かねぇ」
「ほっとけそんなぐるぐる」
「あァァ！！？」

海軍本部

「異例中の異例だな　少数とはいえ・・・一味全員が賞金首とは・・・」
総合賞金額が６億を超えている　この黒足という男・・・なぜ写真がない」
アタッチャン「はっ　それが・・・確かに撮ったんですが・・・現像してみて驚きました・・・！ 」
これが写真です・・・まさに怪奇現象・・・」
写真真っ黒
「レンズのキャップは外したのか？

アニキー！」「読んできたわいなー」
パウリー、タイルストン、アイスなどが寝てる

ル「おお！！でけぇのがあるぞ！！」
チョ「あれかーっ！！」
ル「おーい！！来たぞーフランキー！！船くれーっ！！」
アイス「ンマー　来たな・・・あいにくフランキーは外して手ナ　だが船は出来てる俺が代わりに 見せよう」
「この船はすごいぞ図面を見た時目を丸くした　あらゆる海を越えて行ける」
「この船なら世界の果ても夢じゃねぇ　フランキーからお前への伝言はこうだ麦わら」
ル「早くみせてくれー」
ア「お前はいつか海賊王になるならこの百獣の王の船に乗れ」

「うおーっ！でけー！かっこいいー！」
ル「色々飛び出しそうー」
チョ「うおおーコレくれるのかー！？」
ゾ「へぇ・・・メリーの２倍はあるな！」
ナ「おっきな縦帆！！”スループ”！！」
ロ「立派な船・・・！」

ゾ「夢に見た鍵付き冷蔵庫があったー」など
面倒だから省略

ル「なぁ　アイスのおっさん　フランキーはどこだ？礼もいいてえのに」
ア「もうお前らに会う気はねぇらしい　麦わら　あいつを船大工として誘う気なのか？」
ル「うん！よくわかったな！おれ　あいつに決めたんだ船大工！！
ア「それを察した様だ」
ル「イヤってことか？」
ア「その逆だ面と向かって誘われたら断る自身がねぇのさ・・・だから身を隠した」
ア「ンマー　本心は・・・お前らと海へ出てぇにさ　今まで大切に暖めてきたこの”夢の船”を託す事で充分わ かるだろ」
ア「フランキーはおめぇらの事を心底気に入っちまったんだ　だが
　あいつはずっとこの島にいなきゃならねぇって義務を自分に課してる」

つかれた

ル「義務？」
ア「おれに言わせりゃ　すでにバカバカしい執着だ」
ア「お前らがもし・・・本当にあいつを連れてく気があるなら
手段を選ぶな力ずくで連れてけそれがあいつを解放できる唯一の手段だ」
ル「ムリヤリ？そんなんでいいのか！？」

裏町フランキーハウス跡

「アニキ　どうして帰ってきてるんですか？」
フ「理由なんかあるか　ここはフランキーハウス！おれん家だ」
ザンバイ「・・・はっきり言いますよ！？アニキ・・！
アニキ！麦わらさん達と一緒に行きたいんでしょう！？」
フ「何をバカな事・・・」
フ「んなわけねぇだろ・・！ホラ見ろおめぇらの腕じゃ・・・家の一軒もまともに建たねぇ」
「俺達今麦わらさん達に頼んできたトコです　アニキを海へ連れてってくれるように！」
フ「バカ野郎余計なマネすんな！！！」
ザ「だけどあの人もうすでに決めてました！！”船大工”はあんたにと！！」
フ「何でおれが海賊なんかやらなきゃならねぇんだ」
ザ「見てればわかりますよ！！！」
ザ「俺達アニキが船造ってるトコなんて初めて見たけど・・・・！！」
ザ「この人こんなに嬉しそうな顔すんだなって思いましたよ
あんあ楽しそうなアニキ見たことないっすよ！
麦わらさん達が船大工佐賀支店の知ってるんでしょ！？わざと逃げてきたんでしょ！？」

ザ「コレ見てくれアニキ」
フ「手配書！！やっぱ出やがったか」
ザ「もうおれ達といたってダメです　おれ達ァあんたの足枷になんかなりたかねぇよ！」
フ「生意気な事言うんじゃねぇ　海軍がなんだってんだ！」
フ「てめぇら全員裏町で野垂れ死にそうだったところをおれが拾ってやったんだ
おれがいねぇと生きてく事もできねぇ奴らが・・」
フ「うお！！？」
でかい奴「パンツ取ったー！！！」
「パンツ！？パンツなんか・・・いや！！そうか！！
でかしたパス回せ！絶対に返すな！」

Translation by Zede05

Chapter 436
"Pants from Frankyhouse"
Cover "Lieutenant Junior Grade Supenci expresses regret at escaping before the enemy"

Zoro: You guys understand Usopp's situation right!? This is common sense. (?)
Luffy: Hey, don't feel so bad, this is a huge startup number.
Sanji: Dammit! Why am I the only one to get a drawing! This isn't me! ARGH!
Zoro: Seems fitting...
Sanji: △□×～
Zoro: What was that, speak the human tongue.
Sanji: The world's ladies...will surely laugh at me.
Nami: I was lied to...he said he was a reporter from this town, that's why I gave him such a cute pose for the picture, now I've got a bounty...
Chopper: I'm also a pirate! I'm also a real man fighting bravely in battles! This isn't right, 50 beli!
Luffy: Hn, work harder for the next time!

In front of Galley-la Company
"Hurry, big bro's waiting!"
"Are you leaving? Pirate sisters?"
"Did we forget anything else? Once we get Franky and the ship, we're sailing."
"Sanji's not moving"
"Forget him, let him spin!"
"EH!?"

Marine Headquarters
"This is a special circumstance within a special circumstance, even though the crew is small...but everyone of them has a bounty..."
"The total bounty is above 600 million, this black leg person...why isn't there a photo?"
Attach: Ah, that, I took the picture...but, when it was processed, what a surprise! This is the photo...you could say it's a mysterious occurrence.
The photo is completely black
"Forgot to take off the lens cap?"

Scrap Island
"Big bro!" "We see it!"
Paulie, Tileston, and Iceburg are sleeping

Luffy: Wah! It's huge!
Chopper: Is that the one!
Luffy: Hey! We're here Franky! Give us the ship!
Iceburg: Nma, you're here...but unfortunately Franky just left, but the ship is done, I'll explain everything to you in his place then.
"This ship is very impressive, when I saw the blueprint, I was amazed, it'll be able to sell any type of sea for sure!"
"If it's this ship, reaching the end of this world won't be a dream, that's what Franky wanted you to hear, Strawhat."
Luffy: Hurry and let us see!
Iceburg: Since you want to become the Pirate King, then ride this "king of the beasts" ship.
"Ah! So big! So awesome!"

Luffy: Looks like it can spring out many things...
Chopper: Wah! Are we really going to receive this!?
Zoro: Ah...it's twice the size of Merry!
Nami: Such a big sail! It's a brigantine!
Robin: It's an amazing ship!
Robin: What's that flower at the head of the ship?
Iceburg: Nma, I'm guessing it's a lion.
Luffy: There's lawn on the deck!
Chopper: Slides!
Robin: Seems like there's also a courtyard.
Nami: The sail is so big, it must have amazing movement.
Iceburg: It's called a pelican, brigantines are the ideal selling vessels, it's life and death are completely dependent on the depth of the skills of the navigator.
Nami: Hn, I can test my skills! I'll give my best!
Sanji: It even has a fridge with a lock...and a giant oven! Thanks a lot, Franky, this ship's awesome!
Luffy: Really, Ice Mr.

Luffy: Anyway, Ice Mr., where's Franky? We still need to thank him.
Iceburg: I think he doesn't want to see you, Strawhat, you want to invite him as the shipwright, right?
Luffy: Uh-huh! You understand! I've already decided to get him as our shipwright!
Iceburg: He seems to understand that.
Luffy: He doesn't want to?
Iceburg: It's the opposite, he's afraid that if he gets invited, he'll not have the confidence to say no, so he's hiding.
Iceburg: Nma, in his heart...he wants to go with you out to sea, I can tell from the way he gave this hidden dream ship to you guys.
Iceburg: The events that happened with you people are already imprinted deeply in Franky's heart. But that guy is forcing himself to finish the self-imposed obligation of not leaving this island.
Luffy: Obligation?
Iceburg: From what I can tell, it's just a foolish persistence.
Iceburg: If you really want to take him with you, then don't think of anything else, just use force on him, that's the only way to liberate him.
Luffy: Use force? Will that work!?

Backstreet Frankyhouse
"Big bro, why did you come back?"
Franky: Do I need an excuse? This is the Frankhouse! It's my home!
Zambai: Then I'll say it. Boss! Boss! You really want to go with the Strawhats, right!?
Franky: What are you babbling about...
Franky: How can that be possible...!? See, with your skills...you can't even build a home right.
"We just asked the Strawhat, hoping he would take you out to sea!"
Franky: Idiot! Don't do those useless and stupid things!
Zambai: But, he's already decided! He wants you as the shipwright!
Franky: Why would I want to be a pirate?
Zambai: We can see! Even though it's the first time that we've seen boss building a ship, but your face, we've never seen you so happy before! You know the Strawhats are looking for a shipwright, that's why you're hiding, correct!?
Zambai: Look at this boss!
Franky: A bounty! So it finally came out.
Zambai: So now you can't stay with us even if you want to, we don't want to be your fetter!
Franky: Don't say such conceited things, so what if it's the marines!
Franky: When you're all dying in the backstreet, who saved you? If I'm not here, you'll not be able to survive...
Franky: Huh?
Big underling: I've got the speedo (underpants)!
Franky: Speedo!? What speedo...AGH! You! Give it back! Where you going!?
Franky: ...Give me back my speedo, that's all I'm wearing!
"We're leaving, get ready!"
Franky: This is perfect! I'm going to prove to you that all of you combined still won't be a worthy opponent to me!
Zambai: Even if only one guy makes it, we're going to get your speedo to the Strawhat, to Scrap Island!
Franky: Strong right!
"Wah! Pass bro! Run! Toward the southeast direction!"

On the street
"What's with the chaos? What's going on, so rude! Franky's rampaging! He's coming! The street will be damaged!"
"Hey wait, that guy...! He's not wearing anything!"
"Wah!" "The bird! (?)" "Take the children home!" "Don't let the 変態 (dictionary says Metamorphosis, maybe it means streaker?) see this!"
"You've committed a petty crime, I'll arrest you!"
"Get the speedo over there!"
"Take a detour!" "OK!" "Pass!"
"The Backstreet is the battlefield!"
Big guy: Dammit, I can't go on...so useless!
Luffy: Hey! Pass! Here!
"Strawhat!?"
Luffy: Throw it!
Franky: ...Strawhat!
Franky: You! Did you like the boat?
Luffy: Ah! It's greatest ship I've ever seen, thank you!
Franky: ...of course, my super design met the requirements of everyone! Did you see my invention the "solar dry dock system?"
Luffy: Not yet!
Franky: It's the brightest spot, you'll like it for sure!
Franky: What about the fish tank?
Luffy: Saw that.
Franky: The fish that you fish up can be put in the tank, then you can appreciate it there just like at an aquarium! You can also eat there, with fresh fish anytime you want!
Franky: That ship to me, and you as well, is a dream ship! NOW GIVE ME BACK MY PANTS!
Luffy: Chopper!
Chopper: Ah!
Franky Family: We give up the task to Zoro and the others.
Zoro: Leave it to us!
Franky: ?
Franky got put into a cannon
Family: Aim at the Scrap Island! Franky Family Deluxe Cannon! Fire! Everything Cannon!
Chopper: Ah! He arrived before the speedo!
Luffy: Hang on to me, Chopper!
Gomu Gomu Rocket

Scrap Island

"Wah!" "Look! A 変態" "What is that!"
"Big bro?" "Eh...what's going on...?"
Franky: AWAH!!!
Luffy: Franky!
Luffy: This ship, thank you! We'll treasure this awesome ship!
Franky: Ah, I hope you have a smooth journey.
Luffy: But if you want your pants back, you'll have to become our nakama!

[I fail at life]

Who could beat Dark Schnieder? I say Naraku could beat Dark Schnieder. While he doesn't have DS's speed, or his arsenal of spells, Naraku does have several of the same qualities as DS. Namely, his ability to recover from ANY injury incredibly rapidly, even if it would kill anyone else. He has been completely disintigrated a couple times, and STILL managed to come back! Plus, his miasma practically eats anything inside of it, from skin and bone to solid stone and metals. Nothing can protect against it very long. So, while DS would put up a good fight, and blast Naraku to bits a few times, I think the contest would ultimatly be Naraku's.
Doesn't Naraku have a finite number of times he can replenish? Something about hidden organs? Sorry,haven't read Inuyashi :p

@Malice: No.

[I fail at life]

Divine level owns magic level.

It would be the same as having Gandalf try to beat Melkor Morgoth... Morgoth would rape Gandalf.

[I fail at life]

Close battle but Seymour's strongest spell is Ultima :p I believe Ultimecia has Apocalypse,or was it Doomsday? Ragnarok? Hmm,I forget,I remember she had a spell you could only draw and use during that battle and it was stronger than Ultima.

[Aleolus]

Doesn't Naraku have a finite number of times he can replenish? Something about hidden organs? Sorry,haven't read Inuyashi :p
@Malice: No.

Not so far as I know. As far as I've seen, his regeneration comes from the gigantic chunk of the Shikon Jewel that he has, not from any hidden internal organs. He just devours other demons to add their powers to his own.

[Silhouette]

Apocalypse, and you're saying that the entire battle will be decided by that one spell? Not likely. And Oblivion pwns Apocalypse btw.

[Silhouette]

Aphelion is a dragon god. Dragon god of the moon, I believe.. Seymour Omnis feeds off of the power of Sin, a giant..god-like dragon of death. And Ultimecia, has the powers of all of the sorceresses that ever existed/will exist in her grasps. :whatevah:

It won't be an easy fight. Especially since Gabriel is very weak compared to the others..

[Dragor84]

hmm artemisia controlled 2 persons if i remember right
but seymore was one of the top people of an entire religion so he controlled something similar to an arme^^
1 : 0 for seymore
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anima >> apocalypse >> griever
2 : 0 for seymore
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artemisia is definitly much older that seymore and so she had more time to have some fun^^
2 : 1 for seymore
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artemisa was only sealed away? and seymore have to be KILLED 4 times...
so seymore came back to life^^ and artemisia just woke up^^
3 : 1
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i havent played ff8 for nearly 5 years now so im not really sure but did artemisia have more transformations than seymore (griever is her summon not her trans)
even without that point i think seymore is the winner for me^^

[Dragor84]

hmmm i would say a tie...
i dont think that ichigo has a possibility to kill alucard but i also think that alucard has no method to kill ichigo (arent the things which can hit a shinigami really rare?)

[Silhouette]

Ultimecia was never sealed away. That was Sorceress Adel. She controlled Sorceress Edea, and Rinoa. Not at the same time though.

Hmm.. As far as her transformations go.. She transforms twice, I believe. Once, junctioning herself to Griever, and the second is when she's absorbing the power of all sorceresses of the past/present/future.

Seymour, well.. He first transforms by combining himself with Maester..I don't remember his name. Auron's old friend, right? And a few dead guards aswell. His second time was with some kind of creature on Mt. Gagazet. His third time was inside of Sin, when he was using Sin's energy.

[Dragor84]

All the elemental Devil Fruits own
Fire (Ace)
Electricity (Eneru)
Ice (Aokiji)
now I would like too see Earth and Wind!

hmm earth could be similar to sand-sand-fruit
and we already had a wind-wind-fruit^^ dont remember the name of the guy who used it. but it was right before luffy entered the grand line

i would like to eat fire or lightning^^

[5000]

I dont know but Seymour is a very strong spellcaster!

[5000]

I love the GUM GUM POWER!

[Novem]

Using dragors system

Anima was stronger than Griever.

1:0 Seymore

Apocalypse is stronger than that of ultima.

1:1

Well Ultimecia had the ability judgement day which reduced all party members to 1hp.

2:1 Ultimecia

Ultimecia had destroyed the worlds armies and installed herself ruler of the world, Seymore dreamed of doing that.

3:1 Ultimecia

Semours health was about 80-90000hp in the end Ultimecia could be anything up to 1,200,000 depending on level

4:1 Ultimecia

[TargaryenX]

Gonna have to go with ultimecia on this one, she's trying to not only take over the world, but seriously mess up time itself as well. She can also junction herself to her summon, which trumps anima, as cool as it is.

[Malice]

Who will win this battle.

[Vash002]

First of all, great battle idea.
My vote goes to Arucard, cause he is super strong, he has a very fast regeneration mode(no, he is not invencible) and great weapons. Hollow Ichigo would make Arucard get a hard time for a while, but still, Arucard pwns. Btw, people who say that Arucard is invencible... that's false... there is one person that could defeat him...(Yeah, i am a Hellsing fan):winking56

[Silhouette]

Meh, but Seymour can fuse himself with other dead beings. Just take the pyreflies of an Aeon and BAM! lmao.. Can you imagine that though? Seymour fused with Anima, or Bahamut. >.>

@Novem: Touche.

[I fail at life]

um so does abel count as a vampire
and im not apoligizing bout nething cause im sick and tired of hearing bout jesus and all that stuff it bad enough that my mom makes me go 2 church
Good question.

Abel himself says he is a Crusnik,a vampire who sucks vampires. Note how he still used the words vampire :p

[Silhouette]

You mean "Auron"? >.>

Auron is the most badass FF character in existance. The guy crawled all the way from Lady Yunalesca's place, through the Zanarkand Blitzball Arena Ruins, through the ruins of Zanarkand itself, over the mountain side, through the cave, and all the way to Mount Gagazet--while DYING!

Can anyone else do that? No. That's like...crawling 10 miles while you're dying. And I imagine that he had to fight off fiends on the way.

Psh. In a fight, Auron has far more experience, and he has that all ready being dead thing going for him, no? *grins* I can't seem to remember any of his Overdrives, except for Dragon Blade(?) and Banishing Blade(?), either one of those would pwn Cloud.

[SnowManZero]

Auron.

It would be a good fight, one I would pay to see, but Auron would just have the edge.

Then there's also the fact that cloud can be very bad at fighting anyone but sephiroth, like in advent children

[ichi-ichi-tactic]

@ Sessou: Actually he was already dead. One someone dies in Spira and aren't sent they stay attached to the world.
In case no one noticed Auron's agility on his part of the sphere grid sucks. He's the slowest character in FFX.
Note: Badass has nothing to do with sword skill >_>

Cloud wins...this is a stupid match-up

[Malice]

Excuse me necromancer if I'm an inept when it comes to match ups. This is for honest votes, not an excuse for those with a superiority complex to knock the new guys down. Why is it that you veteren people gotta be such assholes to the noobs? You were one once so give us a F#%$ing break.

(Deep Sigh) sorry for those who had to endure that but I'm fed up with the discrimination that noobies receive.

[uzumaki 45]

i would say cloud would win with the buster sword aurons to slow

[Silhouette]

@Malice: I'm no newb. I am indeed a vet to CB, and this section. Psh. >.>

@ichi: Bah. Completely forgot about that. It still doesn't matter. Auron is a superior swordsman, and he's got far more experience. You can't deny that. Powerwise, he has strong attacks aswell.

Why do you think Cloud would win? Because he's Cloud? No, that won't fly here. :whatevah:

{edit}Auron only strikes slow when he needs to do a powerful attack. He is more than capable of blocking and dodging..

[Malice]

both have their strengths and weaknesses cloud are lac of Exp,the residual effects of his mako energy alterations and he kinda struggles with his swords, but he's fast and agile, Plus he's a Sephiroth Clone (play ff7's story though and you'll find out). And Auren has awesome strength, Power, Exp, he can use his sword proper, but he is weakened by the farplane. (you'd be blind to forget that.) He's age would also limit him slightly wen it comes to endurance, Plus he was sooo easily defeated by Yunaleska. Either way it would be a marvellous spectacule to behold.


And with my previous remarks, I wasn't referring to you Sessou.

[Silhouette]

Ok.

1. I haven't played X in 4 years.
2. Not only is Lady Yunalesca the most powerful summoner of all time(possibly), but Auron was younger and less experienced back then, so..

[uzumaki 45]

cloud is faster stonger more fame more the better lol ^_^

[uzumaki 45]

:headbang vincent valentine woooo

[Kichi_Sama]

Alucard. Gets my vote every time!

[Sesshomaru]

Cloud have better limit break... I vote for Cloud...

[Sesshomaru]

Squall's lion heart would beat that guy easly...

[Silhouette]

@uzu: Cloud may be faster, but there is no way in hell that he's stronger. Fame has nothing to do with it. This is the Arena. Read the damn rules. That fanboy/girl crap doesn't fly here. If you can't back up your arguement, then just don't post. kthx.

[Silhouette]

You don't even know who Albel is. READ THE RULES! Jesus Christ.

[Nicole]

People played SO3. Yay \o/

I'll have to go with Squall. He has that Leonhart attack that deals a crapload (can't remember how many) of 9999 HP similiar to Cloud's Omnislash... so if he can pull that off, Albel's finished.

And Squall is more well-rounded than Albel, as well as can be immune to almost any status effect out there if he equips the right magic in his slots.

Albel just has agility. He could use Aura Wall and hold him off, but Squall has too many "if you're hit with this you're dead" attacks.

A more even battle would be Squall vs. Cloud :P

[Silhouette]

Define "if you're hit with this you're dead attacks" O_o

Symbology is different from FF magic. >_> And pretend this is a real fight. There are no stats or anything.. Cause if Albel had his defense high enough, none of Squall's attacks would hurt him.

Oh, and Cloud sucks. >.>

[Undying]

Although a complete series (52 episodes, and currently the only source is Anime Nuke ( http://animenuke.com/cms/dn-fl?cmd=scatb&c=free_oti ) It is quite the series.

It has some elements reminiscent of Pokemn and Digimon, but the anime is deeo enough, and unique enough, to warrant it's own title rather than a rip off.

Synopsis:
The series deal with the life of Riku, a young kid who from early age has been taught strange movements by his grandfather. He is used to doing them so much, he does the m uncounsciously, much to the amusment of his classmates.

The situation becomes complicated when Riku discovers about teh ancuent feud between the Chi-ryu (way of earth) and Ten-ryu (way of heaven). These two warring factions have been at war for a thousand years.

The battles are fought using Shikigami, spirits of nature who are summoned by a Toujinshi and used for fighting.or helping others. Riku binds a contract to Kogenta of the Byakko, and together they begin aquest to stop the Chi-ryuu's evil plans... or so they think, for in the shadows, the mysterious Jin-ryuu lurks...


Mystery, some romance (but these are 12 year olds... not much romance aside from the girl who has a crush on Riku and is in denial about it...), intense battles and an interesting storyline.

I reccomend ot all magic and phantasy lovers.

[Pie <3]

So you said it wasn`t a rip off. But you still said the names Pokemon and Digimon. I hate those two series so much>.< Is it like it at all?

[Nicole]

lawl

I'm talking about Squall's limit attacks. Those require some charging up, but if Squall dodge's Albel's agility and hits him with a Lionhart, he's gone.

I don't quite see how Final Fantasy magic and symbology are too different. Both are magic-based. Final Fantasy has more options in terms of magic, though.

But if it were a fight, both at max HP and everything else, Albel may have high defense, but I don't see why Squall couldn't put a scratch on him. It's been a good 2 years since I've played either game, so I'll try to remember all of Albel's attacks. Aura Wall and Palm of Destructions/Dragon Roars would be most effective against Squall. If he stays far away from Squall, he might have a chance.

Squall, if he got nearer or using Blasting Zone especially, he'd take Albel down, as well as dodging Aura Wall and Albel's ranged attacks.

Albel still has the claw he can use to attack as well, if he can effectively penetrate Squall's defense and get him with either his sword or his claw, then he could win. But if Squall effectively pulls off a limit attack, Albel's gone.

[Vash002]

Arucard and his 2 guns.

[Yuki]

Awesome ^^ Thanks Spike. Nice ship :) It looks like much bigger than Going Merry. Franky did a good job

[Silhouette]

I meant, that if you have your SO3 characters at max defense, none of the enemies in the game can hurt them. They do 0 damage. If you want to go by stats, and Albel had max defense, then Squall wouldn't be able to hurt him. >.>

Both at max hp? Squall's max is 9,999. Albel's is 99,999. That's another reason why I try not to use stats in arena battles..

Albel is the combo king. He'd be at an advantage in an up close fight. Squall would have to use magic from afar. Albel has a few distance attacks, and can use magic if you teach him it.

What I meant about Magic & Symbology is, Squall can equip certain things to null the effect of certain spells. The spells, however, are different, and some of them have different effects. >: /

And about Squall's Limit Breaks:

Rough Divide could do some damage. This is really the only move that Squall can use to seriously damage Albel. It is the quickest to charge up, and requires no extraordinary stunts(flying in the air and hitting someone 20 times..).

Blasting Zone would take too long to load. Albel would already be slashing at Squall's torso before he even charged it up.

Fated Circle would be dodged easily by Albel. Meh, I need to replay FF8 to see how much range that move has, but I'm pretty sure that Albel would dodge it.

Lionheart.. What people don't seem to understand is; when you use these moves in a game, the enemy stands still and lets you whip them around. In a real fight, Squall wouldn't be able to simply knock Albel into the sky, and unload 20(?) hits on him in the air. Even if he managed to get him in the air, Squall would only get a few shots in before Albel counters.

However, if Squall were to combine Rough Divide and Lionheart, and totally catch Albel offguard, then if might work. I'd like to see him juggle Albel in the air though..

[TargaryenX]

Auron's best overdrive creates a giant, flaming tornado. Cloud's best limit break pretty much just lets him attack really fast. Giant flaming tornado of death > omnislash. Also, auron has better hair.

[Nicole]

It's because of all these stat changes that it's hard to really determine winners when they're from different games like this. Mainly, if there are cameos, they take on that game's stats and what not.

With monsters doing 0 HP (I've never actually gotten that far in the game to max HP and have the monsters do 0 HP to my characters), if Squall isn't a part of the game, he has the chance of inflicting damage to Albel because he doesn't follow SO3's stats.

If Albel can be at 99,999 HP and have an insanely high defense, Squall can be at 9,999 with optimal junctions and stocked Aura spells.

I'm saying ranged would work better in Albel's case because being hit afar by Palm of Destruction/Dragon Roar combos would offset his spellcasting, and he can't attack with that range.

If say, Albel does Dragon Roar, it completely misses Squall, an Aura'd Squall uses this opportunity to use his limit. He starts using Renzoukuken (sp?) and uses Lionhart. I doubt Lionhart would cease after a few hits and I don't see how anyone could counter it after a few hits, as well.

But if Albel used close attacks, that could work better, but if Squall keeps dodging them, using Renzoukuken, then Lionhart, he stands a chance.

[Silhouette]

*glares* I didn't say that Lionhart would simply cease after a few hits. It's just not possible for him to knock Albel into the air, do many hits while flying or w/e, then knock him back to the ground.

It also kinda depends on where they're fighting too. If Squall had objects to jump off of, then he could pull off a Lionhart, otherwise.....probably not. >.>

And as for countering Lionhart after being hit by the first few blows, ok, probably not likely, but still.. It wouldn't be a one-hit kill. It would cut Albel up badly, sure, but he's one tough guy(despite his looks..).

And I almost forgot, Albel has this one move, he uses it often when you fight him in Crosell's den; he gets covered in this energy shield or w/e, and charges at you. It's pretty damn fast, and Fayt can barely dodge it. Fayt is insanely fast and agile. The move is a close range one, which leaves no time to dodge it really. >: / That would help him in close range too.

Both are great fighters, with great attacks. Squall's may be more powerful, but require too much charging time. Albel's are not as powerful, and are easier to pull off, but are somewhat easy to dodge(except for his charge attack, which would only knock Squall down seeing as how it's pretty much a weak attack).

It would come down to who could catch their opponent off-guard first, and land a powerful blow, leaving their opponent weakened enough to move in for the kill..

[Nicole]

Yeah, in the end it would go to the best strategy and the best technique, and each are pretty good fighters. Squall could win, but I can see where Albel could also win as well.

Or they might tie and both of them pass out. :P

[Silhouette]

Meh. I can't picture Albel really thinking things through. So, in the end, he would probably do something careless, and Squall would make his move. Although, I bet Squall would be in for a surprise if he tried to slice Albel's left arm off. (It's a fake arm, ..or so I've heard..)

[hasuke]

Nah, if it was E7 there'd be something about surfing mechas, since that's a pretty big defining feature about LFOs :B

[Poison Ivy]

yea but still he would be a higher level vamp. and the way tou put it makes him sound like hes gay

[Shinji]

http://www.sendspace.com/file/3ffexg
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/204463/ONE_PIECE__436.zip

[Planeswalker]

Franky has no pants...

I dont really like the new ship.

[Silhouette]

Psh. Might help if you describe what the mechs & characters looked like. >.>

[Pie <3]

ok wel most ppl who are good christians dont have nething 2 do w/ vampires "because its against tha religion" but im in a religion its rerequired 2 know at least 1 thing bout vampires be it from movies, manga, anime, or folk/myth stories


So your saying I`m not a good christian if i like vampires?

[ichi-ichi-tactic]

Don't forget that Cloud also has Finishing touch and Meteorain.
Also "unsent" are alot harder to actually kill (again). Look at Seymour for instance, he just wouldn't die. If you're gonna go that deep Auron is pretty much unkillable for a 1-on-1 duel, Which is kinda cheap.

@Malice: I'm not trying to discriminate noobs, sorry if it offended you.

[ichi-ichi-tactic]

Yes it is fake. I was torn off when he failed to make a pact with a dragon. His father died saving him from it.

[uzumaki 45]

i love tidus from ff10 but dante seems to strong but also tidus fought bigger monster than dante off of devil may cry but personally i think Tidus.:headbang :Domo

[uzumaki 45]

sailor moon will crush krillin sucks he weak pathetic a loser but at least he got a strong gurl friend lol

[Mighty Aramir]

since Cloud is faster and more magic-familiar, id have to go with cloud kicking aurons old ass

[Mighty Aramir]

Alucard abd all of his ass kicking arsenal!!

[Z_Blitz]

I think that the only time Albel would stand a chance against Squall is if they got into a melee fight with no limit breaks/skills/magic. Albel's agility would definitely take over the better side of Squall :).

[Mighty Aramir]

as sure as i consider Kon, and hate the yellow rat, this elecyric roedent woul surely win. shame on you kon!!

[Mighty Aramir]

kenshin certainly

[Mighty Aramir]

byakuya is an asswhooping guy, no reason to doubt his victory

[Undying]

No. Nothing at all.

It is the similiar to Digimon and Pokemon in that that they use beast-like creatures to fight, but otherwise there is not link at all.

[Mr.Schaf]

Hm althoug I hate Itachi I have to be honest: There is no way I could imagine that Byakuya little metalplates could resist an attack as hot as Sun. And if they could Itachi still just needed to land one hit on Byakuya with his Mangekyo Attack (forgot it's name) and Byakuya would be history. In addition I've got the impression that some Naruto Ninjas such as Itachi are already as fast as a Shinigami with Shunpo.
Still I want to underline once again that I don't like Itachi and that I'm anything else than a fanboy of him.

[Yuki]

I do. It looks like Going Merry but much bigger ^^

[Kuroi Getsuga Tenshou]

I really can't wait to see the ship!

[ichi-ichi-tactic]

End of debate?
That was pretty drawn out.

[Mavvy]

Its kinda sounding like Shaman King to me.

Nice link btw. :D

[Cleric]

There's grass on the deck . . . WTF 0_o

[Silhouette]

Psh. *points to the previous page*

@ichi: End of the debate? Sure, why not. >.>

*cough*gotomyotherthreads*cough*

[Undying]

Thanks :3.

I know. Onmoyji anime seem to tend doing that. Shounen Onmouji has the same charactersitics (actually someone on FansubTV commented that the release ad looked like a rip off from Shaman King :p).

But Onmyou Taisenku is awesome enough to be a title on its own.

[ちい~ちゃん]

cloud would kick his ass. All he has to do is use is Omnislash the lats Limit Breaks. And its all over.

[Undying]

Yeah, another Onmyouji anime.

Only 7 subbed episodes so far, and it looks rather interesting, and also more "Onmoyuji" like than it's cousin Onmyou Taisenki.

Link to episodes: http://anime.fansub.tv/series.php/890/Shounen%20Onmyouji/

The story is about Abe no Masajiro, the grandson of the legendary Abe no Seimei, a superb Onmyouji (priest/magician) Masahiro is bent on surpassing his own grandfather, but because he is unable to see supernatural beings due to apparently not having the Kenki ability (the ability to see demons and spirits). As a resuly, he gives up on being an Onmyouji and seeks other paths to go in life.

All this changes when he meets a small, cat-like demon who seems to chase him around continously. This small ayakashi (spirit/demon) seems to be bent on staying near Masahiro despite being rather unwelcome. Earning the condescending (yet affectionate) name "Mokkun", he manages to remain near Masahiro untill a demon attack, which leads to the new start of Masahiro's Onmyouji career, when he discovers Mokkun's true name, and form...


In my opinion this is worth checking to anyone who likes a lot of chanting, magical fightings and cool explosions and lights.

There is quite the bit of comedy, too, although it seems to hint at currents moving inderneath.

This is most certanly a Shoujo anime because there are almost no women there... not playing important parts (until now, at least. Episodes 6 and 7 change that but most of the characters are still guys).

Still, a recomendation.

[uzumaki 45]

ok well then does auron have anything better than the army slash i dont thinkso oohhh in ur fac sessou

[XV Barixn]

Without a FF10 movie, we can't really compare Auron to Cloud.

IN FFVII:AC, Cloud displays incredible strength such his ability to jump to a height that is more then 10x his own height, he also has the ability to cut through large falling buildings... also, in Last Order, he survives an attack by Sephiroth even though he was IMPALED by the masumune, which is arguably the strongest sword.

IN FF10, you see Auron spin... drink sake... and cut things...
... Whoa?

Like I said, we can't really compare the two because without a FF10 movie that shows Auron's powers, Cloud is the greater of the two.

[uzumaki 45]

plus cloud has mako that proof he's stonger then him and i agree wit u Fut

[Poison Ivy]

no i said most good christians not all

[Silhouette]

Um, uzumaki. Funny you should have Naruto's name, seeing as you're a complete moron..

Cloud isn't so great. I don't get why people fanboy over him and Sephiroth. Just stop. The reality is, they are nothing.

@Fut: Masumune? The strongest sword? Um, no.

[Vash002]

Byakuya of course.
Itachi is not match for him.

[Malice]

@Fut: Masumune? The strongest sword? Um, no.

The FF one no, Highlander's one yeah.

[M_Ghey]

This again...
@trinityblood- i see what you are saying, but a lot of strong christiens do not, i think the adjective "good" is too strong a word in this particular situation. The whole phrase becomes so much simpler and less offending if "good" is replaced with "stereotypical", i think.

[izzuru]

This is most certanly a Shoujo anime because there are almost no women there... not playing important parts (until now, at least. Episodes 6 and 7 change that but most of the characters are still guys).

Still, a recomendation.

watched this anime...(haven't finish of course)
there is a gurl in the anime... akiko hime... i think...

[Miss M]

aww... really cute wig....
I wanna see a cosplay wearing that wig!
but if it were a hairstyle at our school we'd get suspended...hehe...

[Mighty Aramir]

ARUCARD!!!! he is the biggest, baddest, and more powerful vampire around, clovers and wooden sticks, are just nuisance for him. Hollow Ichigo would put a fight, but at thye end he is fighting Arucard

[FatalShadows]

Ok,now both these people have a big boost in power in these forms.
Ichigo because his inner Hollow is just crazy and the crazier he gets the more stronger.His also quite unmercifull so he doesnt stop untill he kills his prey unless ichigo ights within himself and takes out the hollow...

Now then,naruto in full power is a different story.
If naruto fought ichigo in normal state he would get the stuffing nocked outa him.BUT if he had kyuubi in full power ichigo would probably get killed.However, in this fight he has his inner Hollow awakened so he also has a quite nice power boost.While naruto has an immensly big power boost as the kyuubi is the strongest demon in the anime, and naruto is very weak compared to the kyuubi.

This would be a very immense fight,how ever, naruto has the ability to use kage bunshin no jutsu so that would make like 10 more naruto at full power.

If naruto took that further up by one step he would use Taijuu kage bunshin no jutsu wich would make like 100 more shadow clones.Imagine that,100 kyuubi's at full power against one Hollow ichigo,plus,if naruto was still losing he could just make more and more shadow clones because of the immense chakra he gets in kyuubi form.
Therefore my vote goes on Kyuubi,he would win! :D

[Silhouette]

Um, no. There have been other Naruto vs Bleach match-ups. Or, miss-matches rather.. It's already known that any Naruto character would get killed by most Bleach characters..

Kyuubi is as strong as a Menos Grande, maybe. Ichigo was able to take on one of those in the beginning of the anime. Hollow Ichigo? That's just a massacre. Naruto is a loser, and if it weren't for that Kyuubi, he'd be nothing. However, even with Kyuubi, he still can't win this fight.

Ichigo's Speed > Naruto's x1,000,000
Ichigo's Strength > Naruto's x1,000,000
Ichigo's Stamina > Naruto's x1,000,000
Ichigo's Spirit Energy > Naruto's x1,000,000

Now that's just Ichigo. I won't even bother doing that with Hollow Ichigo. Psh.

[Kenta]

Itachi wins. His mangekyou sharingan allows him to foresee enemy's movement. Naruto in Kyuubi mode was supposed to have speed that cannot be detected by the normal human eyes, and even Sasuke was able to counter it. Once Itachi makes eye contact with Byakuya, Byakuya is a goner.

[MezzoDragon]

Its figurehead is uglier than Marry-Go's, but it is a lot better than a "naked" Franky.

[slave_car]

now i`ll say something som other ppl sayed to me when i voted for Gaara in the Byakuya vs Gaara thread... what would Itachi do against Byakuyas more than powerful Reitsu... even if we say that Itachi and all the other ppl from the Naruto world have a soul, and therefore, have Reitsu i think Byakuyas is much stronger...

btw Itachi would be cut dovn in a second cuz he cant block a Soul-slayer no way...
ohhh no... how could i forget he would use a kunai right?!?

oh and about foreseeing enemy movement... he can se but has no time to react... (like Lee vs Sasuke)

[Vash002]

He wouldn't need to transform in Hollow Ichigo(Or Vizard) to win this match. He even could win with his first zanpaktou(The white big one)