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Malice
01-14-2007, 01:29 PM
If Sephiroth was in trouble he'd rely on his ancient abilities, Jenova and the meteor materia (the last 2 ain't allowed). Plus his kick ass sword can nearly cut through anything. (as seen in advent children.)

But in real life (with no limitations), Sephiroth would win easy.

Lust
01-14-2007, 01:33 PM
hmm it will be even since they are fast,strong plus bankai=ichigo selp=really godmodding skill either at movie nor game

Nrvnqsr Chaos
01-14-2007, 03:23 PM
ichigo would win but by only a tiny margin. itd be an awesome fight but ichigo bankai>sephiroth

Minami Ikki
01-14-2007, 03:31 PM
Haha. You guys are SO funny. Bankai Ichigo is NOTHING..I repeat. NOTHING. NOTHING NOTHING. NOTHING NOTHING. NOTHING NOTHING. NOTHING NOTHING. NOTHING NOTHING. NOTHING NOTHING. NOTHING NOTHING. NOTHING

Against the Black Materia, Meteor. Good luck trying to getsuga tenshou, or kuroi getsuga-ing a friggin meteor as big as the planet

oh right. He lost his god modding powers since KH. Losing to a bratty 12 year old. What a loser.

Ichigo wins.

Nrvnqsr Chaos
01-14-2007, 03:57 PM
yep, another easy one for ichi :D

Nrvnqsr Chaos
01-14-2007, 04:01 PM
lucci FTW

Kuroi Getsuga Tenshou
01-14-2007, 06:37 PM
Rob Lucci

ichi-ichi-tactic
01-14-2007, 07:40 PM
Note: NO MATERIA, JENOVA OR METEOR

Que Sera Sera
01-14-2007, 09:03 PM
If he was the Sephy in Advent Children yes he would win but since it is in KH(beaten by a 12 year old boy as Minami Ikki said) Ichigo would win

SHiKaMaRi
01-14-2007, 09:13 PM
Sephiroth forevaa!! *ahem*

Compared to Sephiroth, really, Ichigo would be KABAAM useless. With the help of bankai, ogichi, whatever, Sephiroth wins~~

I don't know why I voted 'tough fight, but Sephiroth wins'. I believe that Seph would be able to win with no troubles at all, really.

Rain
01-14-2007, 09:14 PM
Ichigo.

Sephiroth was defeated by a key...

SHiKaMaRi
01-14-2007, 09:28 PM
And i'm betting you that the key will totally pwn Ichigo's ass.

Jay3205
01-14-2007, 09:30 PM
Cloud's skills are pretty great, but his feats of skill and strength still aren't up to what Ichigo has done. His blade beam is nothing compared to getsuga tenshou, and his speed is far slower than shunpo. Ichigo would beat him easily.

M_Ghey
01-14-2007, 10:06 PM
Never heard of this but looks interesting. Don't really like how their trophy looks, wish it was more official looking.

General Cox
01-14-2007, 10:21 PM
two groups iv never heard of are still doing it, kubusubs and over9000, not sure about websites or quality for both, but both have episode 13 out, go into mininova and search death note 13 and you'll see the episodes. Not sure about animada as my mirc if fucked and i cant connect, but c1 are on episode 7, but looks to be good quality, if youv got the bandwidth id go with one of those subs ^ and then downlaod the good quality c1 ones when they are finnished :)

Livius
01-14-2007, 10:38 PM
....thats wierd at least its a start being 1st annual but its Dub....i voted on the page mainly at random....

Starlight
01-14-2007, 10:55 PM
Chad does not need to keep up his speed the whole time. All he needs to do is use it when Kuwabara is most vulnerable and get in some good head shots. Yeah, Kuwabara is used to fighting people stronger than himself, But not stronger, faster, and smarter. Chad was ranked eleventh in his class while Kuwabara is still an idiot.

Silhouette
01-14-2007, 11:02 PM
That's knowledge, not intelligence. There is a diffences between book smarts and strategy/tactical fighting.

Silhouette
01-14-2007, 11:05 PM
Ok. You are all greatly mistaken.

First of all, Sora is 16(or 15?), not 12. Where the f*ck did you get twelve from?

Second, people underestimate Sora & Riku. If you take their action command into account, they can battle with the best of them. And let's not forget those Drives.

Defeated by a "key"? In case you haven't noticed, the Keyblade is the ultimate weapon. Whether it looks stupid or not. Which only the Kingdom Key looks stupid, the other ones are actually cool.

Sephiroth wouldn't beat Ichigo easily, what the hell makes you think that? Sephiroth would have a tough time fighting Ichigo, especially in Bankai.

Use your brains and stop being fanqueers. I hate Ichigo and Seph, so my opinions aren't bias here. Think for once, people?

M_Ghey
01-14-2007, 11:08 PM
I think Bleach is really good compared to other shonen animes. But overall, not so much, imo, maybe because i grew to dislike shonen...

Starlight
01-14-2007, 11:27 PM
Ok, that may be true, but he did prove he had battle tactics when he teamed up with Rukia to try to take down the Shrieker hollow.

Silhouette
01-14-2007, 11:31 PM
Actually, no. Rukia did all the thinking there. Chad was blindly swinging his fist until she told him what to do. :whatevah:

Kuwabara, on the other hand, when he fought the energy absorbing demon, thought to keep feeding it energy until it exploded. Which worked.

And then there was that time when he was being chased by tiger demons, and he ran across a narrow bridge I think. Then the demons followed him in a line, and he extended his sword to impale all of them.

Need I continue?

Starlight
01-15-2007, 12:12 AM
I Thought Sasuke could try to use the sharingan to copy the dragon of the darkness flame, but yeah....Hiei is faster. Hiei wins this one.

EndlessSky
01-15-2007, 12:22 AM
Bleach is a good action anime but thats really it. It is fun to watch and all but it doesn't have any real substance at all. The story and characters are very cliche, but I like to have something for when I just want some cool crazy action and art style.

As for shonen anime/manga, I think Bleach is the only one I have watched. I seen a little bit of naruto, and Inuyasha (don't know if it is shonen or not but might as well be since basically has no substance or anything either and is pretty corny.)

That is one flaw of Bleach I would say, is the depth of story and characters. In my opinion if you think Bleach has a good compelling and in depth story you havn't watched or read anything with a decent one or I don't know what your thinking.

I mean the story is basically.... the main hero Ichigo, who talks all tough and everything goes saves the girl in distress and everything because hey he is the hero. Which is your basic fairytale story. Then ya he goes fights all the bad guys in his way saves the girl and then uh oh, another evil bad guy comes in striving for power and world domination and what have you. Then another girl needs rescuing (inoue) and then you have them do the same thing over again but in a different setting with different bad guys. Then ya you got other little snippets about characters and things to serve as a background and there you have it.

I mean I like Bleach, if I didn't I wouldn't be here, but nothing is perfect and that is the only real thing I don't like the very shallow story and all, in my opinion. But some people may like that kind of basic hero saves the day type of storyline.

IntoTheHollow
01-15-2007, 12:48 AM
hiei pwns

IntoTheHollow
01-15-2007, 12:51 AM
yup ichi wins

Future
01-15-2007, 12:53 AM
Bleach pwns you and everyone you love

IntoTheHollow
01-15-2007, 12:53 AM
yeah ichigo would win why you ask heres my reason:

yes itachi has mangekyou but ichigo is super powerful and fast!

ちい~ちゃん
01-15-2007, 12:55 AM
omg this should be move to the Bleach General Talk.
^^ cant wait for the see what the bleach fc have to say about this

IntoTheHollow
01-15-2007, 12:56 AM
i think tie! (there both about even in evrything)

IntoTheHollow
01-15-2007, 12:59 AM
i think cloud would win but thats just my opinion

M_Ghey
01-15-2007, 01:14 AM
Like EndlessSky said, Bleach is fun to watch, but it will never stand as a great anime. It follows the outline of shonen anime, yound boy discovereing powers, saving the girl, etc. There isn't anything really creative or daring in Bleach. It is all we have seen before. It's kinda like a mainstream rap song with a great beat. It sounds good, but you have seen it all before. Nothing revolutionary, just the typical shonen anime.

IntoTheHollow
01-15-2007, 01:18 AM
renji for me

IntoTheHollow
01-15-2007, 01:22 AM
kon will win if hes in ichigos body but he would lose in stuffed animal

Guy
01-15-2007, 01:45 AM
Bleach is cool because it has a lot of great fight scenes. I don't think it'll be a classic though. Although some of the characters are deep, much of the story is too shallow. The only real time I see Ichigo affected by his mother's lost was the few episodes with grand fisher. After that, it was like the character's past had nothing to do with him now. What I'm saying is, Bleach does have deep moments, but too much of it is shallow. It's like watching sports to me. I crave for action, but when the action is over, I want more, and if I don't, then I get bored.

M_Ghey
01-15-2007, 01:49 AM
I didn't really see any deep moments in Bleach at all...maybe cliched deep, but nothing original. When compared to series like Gankutsuo, Ergo Proxy, and even FMA, Bleach lacks depth. It is a safe anime. Most shonen fans will like it because of the character design and action, because they already know what to expect.

Guy
01-15-2007, 01:51 AM
Well, I though Ichigo's, Rukia's, and Byakuya's past were deep... Renji's too. But yeah, they weren't that deep. Basically, Bleach is just something that makes me want more of, but once it's gone, I probably won't remember much of it.

Jeem
01-15-2007, 01:59 AM
It all really depends on what you like, I suppose. If you like shonens, the to you, Bleach is a great thing. If you think prefer depth of character and plot development, then it's probably not going to be the best. Personally, I prefer lots of action, and to me, the battles are unique, so I happen to enjoy Bleach quite a bit. But, I can see where people who like deep plotlines wouldn't enjoy it as much. So it's hard to say whether it's "good" or "bad"; like so many other things in life, it's a matter of personal preference.

M_Ghey
01-15-2007, 01:59 AM
Well, of course it's still a matter of taste. I know ppl who love Bleach but would hate the animes and mangas i like because there isn't enough action in them and there aren't swords and power ypgrades. If you like action and power levels and such, Bleach is for you. If you want to be affected and/or moved by the anime you watch, then it's not.
I like references and meaning in my animes. I like when you have to unravel ehat teh anime is trying to tell you when things occur, what statements it makes about humanity or life or our world. Something, shocking, surprising and moving. A lot to ask for? Yes. But there are some animes that have at least one or two of those components in them. I still like action, but a pure action anime would never make my top 3 favorite list.

Jeem
01-15-2007, 02:01 AM
Mhmm, I agree. And that's why it's hard to say Bleach, or any anime (except for ones that are just obviously terrible altogether) are "good" or "bad" animes.

M_Ghey
01-15-2007, 02:07 AM
Exactly. Do I think Bleach is a bad anime? Not at all. Do I like it a lot? Not really. I tell you what, i think that Bleach is a great anime to watch if you are just getting into anime.

Silhouette
01-15-2007, 02:18 AM
@kenny: Wtf have I told you about spamming? You did this in the Game Forum, now you're just spamming the Arena section.

@Ganju: Sasuke can only copy things that require movement to summon; such as jutsu. He can't copy attacks that require a certain blood-type, energy, or ability.

Livius
01-15-2007, 02:20 AM
hiei would beat him in no time i mean who has more experience....Hiei of course.

Gu^n3r
01-15-2007, 02:24 AM
naruto ftw lol ive been watching too much naruto probaly meh

gokublack
01-15-2007, 02:44 AM
its pretty good.

gokublack
01-15-2007, 02:45 AM
wait h/o renji?

Starlight
01-15-2007, 03:17 AM
@Tasogare: Ok, I admit that Chad may have less battle tactics...unless his training with Renji changed that. However, Chad still has speed and power over Kuwabara. 2 advantages > 1 slight advantage.

Silhouette
01-15-2007, 03:49 AM
You make it sound like Chad is significantly stronger, he isn't. Just slightly, MAYBE. But Kuwabara is still more experienced, better with tactics, has more powerful spirit attacks, and is used to fighting people like Chad.

Chad's only faster. Supposedly.

Livius
01-15-2007, 03:58 AM
Chads strong but again it comes down to the person and expeience. im going with kuwabara
im a bleach fan...but i like YuYu too...maybe more...

BrokenImage
01-15-2007, 04:36 AM
First of all if naruto even fought renji it would have to be in the real world, so his powers would be greatly reduced, and if naruto's seal broke or the 9 tail chakra released he would be an unstoppable force that renji would not be able to compete with in his current state, therefore renji would lose.

BrokenImage
01-15-2007, 04:38 AM
Sasuke. >_<

BrokenImage
01-15-2007, 04:41 AM
The DTD? *needs to reply KH2*

Anywho. This match is hard to call. Sasuke looks to be the winner by far, yet Riku is capable of fighting people that far surpass Sasuke in power/speed (Org XIII members).

Sasuke is faster, unless you count Riku's reaction commands to dodge Xemnas' thorns.

Speed - ?

Sasuke has a large arsenal of jutsu, whereas Riku has Keyblade attacks. Riku can create that Dark Barrier, use Aura Bullets, etc.

Power/Abilities - ?

It might come down to Sasuke's Sharingan. Which, contrary to popular beliefs, is capable of doing more than copying jutsu. People don't realize that it doesn't copy the actual attack, but the handsigns(movements) used for them. Which is why Blood-line jutsu can't be copied.

Why did I bring this up? If Riku should bust out his speed, Sasuke can follow him easily, which might be the deciding factor, since Riku can't do that if Sasuke picked up his pace.
I totally agree, Sasuke would win.

BrokenImage
01-15-2007, 04:43 AM
Since ichigo isnt bound upon the captain-vice captain rule of toning down power in the real world, i believe bankai zangetsu would rip cloud apart.

BrokenImage
01-15-2007, 04:47 AM
Well i will refer this back to the thread about ichigo and cloud. If cloud can beat sephi, than ichigo can beat sephi. And in KH2 i beat sephi, but im sure sora would not be able to lay a hand on ichigo. Ichigo wins.

BrokenImage
01-15-2007, 04:49 AM
Chad really just doesnt have much stomping power. And the attack that he does have he cant use that often, which tells me how long he will last in a fight and how much stamina he has... not much. Although strong i dont think he would be able to stand this fight very long.

BrokenImage
01-15-2007, 04:54 AM
Dude guyver all the way, he basically has a chest nuke shot of doom, and he like just wont die no matter what. And that opening scene for the second movie was just badass... anyone see that?

Guyver ftw.

L'Arc Enzeru
01-15-2007, 06:48 AM
I Definitely used would used it to become a god, kill every peoples who commited crimes like terrorist and for the people i hate if they don't do anything stupid to me i'll not kill them but if they do it... then no mercy, and as a god i'll create the world without crime and only those who good people can lived. ( crazy huh?... well i'm just being crazy like Light ) ^_^

Terra
01-15-2007, 06:54 AM
I'm really not into anime/manga that are just pure action with no story at all (like DB/DBZ/DBGT for example), I don't consider action an important asset when it comes to anime. Hell, some of my favourite anime/manga series have very deep storylines with no action at all.

I think that Bleach started off looking very promising, with a fairly good storyline, unique cast, and lots of action at the same time. But it somehow went downhill after the Soul Society arc began, with the battles getting increasingly predictable, and the storyline becoming less indepth.

For the whole SS arc, it was basically just: Ichigo and co. broke into Soul Society, defeated anyone who got in their way, saved Rukia from execution, someone from Soul Society faked their death and turned traitor, Ichigo and co. finally go back to the human world... etc. It's not really what I would call an indepth storyline, so I would definitely not recommend this series to anyone looking for good storyline.

As for the action part, most of the fights, IMO, were very predictable. I could always figure out who would end up winning a fight as soon as they began. It always seemed like Ichigo would lose as each battle began, but somehow he manage to end up with some new-found power in the end and defeat his opponent, which is no surprise, seeing as most Shonen anime likes to have this type of main character...

As for the characters of Bleach, I agree that most of them are pretty much just average Shonen manga characters, especially Ichigo, he is a typical example of what most Shonen heroes are like; tough and strong-willed. Albeit these characters are very cliche, they still end up having unique and interesting traits. Every single character in Bleach is different in some way, and we can differ them from each other quite easily (unlike some anime, where one characters is virtually a clone of another.) I think that most fans of Bleach know these characters so well to the point that they can even predict how they would react under certain circumstances. I wouldn't say these characters' past experiences are very original ideas, but they still keep us interested nevertheless.

Overall, I think that Bleach is a "good" anime for those who solely likes to watch action, who don't care much about storyline or character development. Of course, it would be a "bad" anime for those looking for something original to watch instead of old, reused ideas.

Terra
01-15-2007, 07:04 AM
Hmm... I very much liked Zack's voice acting, it suited his carefree attitude perfectly IMO. XD

ちい~ちゃん
01-15-2007, 07:10 AM
lol the last order is the anime ver of that happen during that part of the game. its really a part form the game that they true to an anime. all its also a small intro to Crisis Core the new game for the character Zack. telling how he got into the SOLDIER ment Cloud, Sephiroth, Tifa, and Aerith. it also tell why he left Aerith to join the SOLDIER. And a intro to the other Before Crisis a game that tell the story of the Turks the guys after them in the small OVA.

M_Ghey
01-15-2007, 07:13 AM
To continue what Terra said about the characters of Bleach, herte is what i also think. One good thing is that they all look impressively different and have things that you associate with them. When you think of Urahara, you think of his green and white hat. Rukia has her split bangs. Renji his hair and eyebrows, etc. The same goes fo the minor characters. When you think of the 9th division vice captain, you think of the 69 tattoo and his scars. It is impressive to have all your characters look drastically different. Too bad the storyline and depth isn't there.

Terra
01-15-2007, 07:13 AM
I would definitely use it to become the supreme, evil dictator that Light Yagami has become, lol. J/K

Though if I do manage to get a Death Note, I would use it to kill off the bad guys, and maybe for revenge too. Though I don't really like the idea of having a creepy Shinigami following me wherever I go...

ghey b
01-15-2007, 07:33 AM
For everyone who hasnt heard of this anime!!
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r144/Akatsuki3/g1234.jpg
Taking place in the early spring of 1868. A skilled swordsmen of great speed and strength, Akizuki, also known as The Eternal Assassin, is on a quest to destroy The Lords Head, a powerfull weapon that if obtained would allow the person to rule over the country in complete chaos and war. Along with a theator troupe out for revenge, headed by yuuyama or "cheif", Akizuki must stop anyone from obtaining the head and seal it away for all eternity..
This is a great anime imo, if you like anything samurai you will like this anime
Current Episode Downloads

.rmvb format (http://www.rm-anime.uni.cc/index.php?page=Bakumatsu_Downloads)
.avi format (http://xtcanime.com/xtcforum/downloads.php?do=cat&id=1)

Kyouka Suigetsu
01-15-2007, 08:23 AM
I'm not familiar with Tekkaman, but Guyver Gigantic is insanely powerful. The gigasmasher is 100 times as powerful as the normal Guyer's megasmasher. The beam it generates can one shot tokyo. Its physical strength is over the class 100 ton range. The upgraded armor can also fly at supersonic speed. Gigantic's vibroblades can extend to an indefinite length and be used like whips, its pressure spheres are the size of battleship shells, and all the other abilities are wanked out too.

Damier
01-15-2007, 10:08 AM
Those are some large ladels.

ultimate
01-15-2007, 12:12 PM
I already made a thread about Bakumatsu Kikansetsu Irohanihoheto but thanks for the useful download links lol :D And yeah this is a good anime, I think it was created by one of the guys who was involved in creating the Rurouni Kenshin anime

Kimochi
01-15-2007, 02:22 PM
i would help to fullfill justice.. but not as raito.. i will do same as raito but will never kill anione hu suspect me.. even my father.. that makes me evil myself.. so i will use it when necessary.

ichi-ichi-tactic
01-15-2007, 04:21 PM
If we're talking AC cloud then Ichigo loses. That move he did at the end would rip Ichigo to pieces. Any "other" Cloud would lose.

yespossible
01-15-2007, 04:47 PM
**** That site, other animes are boring and child - ish, As the site said that Naurto has effects better than Bleach, there wrong. Bleach would be a more mature anime, instead of Naurto or other such more of a slow Paste.

yespossible
01-15-2007, 04:48 PM
Pissed!

ghey b
01-15-2007, 04:49 PM
damn, even searched for it in the anime section but couldnt find it.. whats the link, ill just delete this one then.

Shaz.
01-15-2007, 04:58 PM
cp9 was the best saga so far i think

Shaz.
01-15-2007, 05:00 PM
i dont wathc the anime much even though ive seen some of it but didnt get hooked to it but i love the manga XD

ichi-ichi-tactic
01-15-2007, 05:12 PM
I'm thinking Envy because of his strength. Tell me what you think.

BrokenImage
01-15-2007, 05:48 PM
If we're talking AC cloud then Ichigo loses. That move he did at the end would rip Ichigo to pieces. Any "other" Cloud would lose.
Bankai Ichogo's speed would enable him to dodge that attack, therefore he would not even get hit by the attack, that attack is nothing compaired to what ichigo can do.

pimpy149
01-15-2007, 06:03 PM
definetly nodoka from negima

M_Ghey
01-15-2007, 06:47 PM
No double posting.

And in my opinion both Naruto and Bleach have bad storylines and are quite childish.

Buuhan1
01-15-2007, 07:07 PM
Rather these pictures are real are still under investigation.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/Louisgallo/46481119300123577loas2.jpghttp://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/Louisgallo/46439wanpi123378lokx3.jpghttp://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4977/spoiler4wj2.jpghttp://img54.imageshack.us/img54/6852/spoilermx6.jpg

I'll keep you posted.

TargaryenX
01-15-2007, 07:20 PM
It's tough to call, since we didn't really get to se envy fight very much (at least in the anime, never read the manga). I would have to say that envy's superhuman strength and endurance just from being a homonculus would be enough to beat lee. Lee's speed is clearly superior, but it wouldn't do him any good if he couldnt' hurt his opponent, because homonculi are, you know...invincible. Now if they were fighting over envy's remains, I would have to say that lee could finish the fight fast enough with the fifth gate that envy wouldn't have a chance to wear him down.

Achilles
01-15-2007, 07:32 PM
so are they gonna continue with the new fansubber group?

Neko Rae
01-15-2007, 09:17 PM
Bleach is a good series compared to other series in same category. I don't really like shounen that much.

Guy
01-15-2007, 09:21 PM
Naruto drags too much... Bleach sometimes does too, but I still think Bleach is a cool anime.

Jay3205
01-15-2007, 09:29 PM
I don't think it's fair to limit Renji's strength by saying he's in the real world. Otherwise, Naruto couldn't hit Renji cause Renji's invisible to Naruto. Naruto currently has never fully broken the seal and has never gone past 4 tailed state. Renji's attacks would severely disable or kill Naruto before Naruto becomes angry enough to release enough tails to win.

Hayate-sama
01-15-2007, 09:50 PM
Besides psychological, harem is my favorite anime genre. In here, list 3 of your favorite harem animes and include a short description of them. Oh and I mainly made this thread so I can see which ones I haven't watched yet...

My top three;

Air - A really unique albeit confusing series. It turns to a more psychological genre towards the end.
Kanon '06 - Very funny...for me at least, since I love sarcastic comedy. It also has various elements of drama as the story goes on, but its still a fun watch.
Shuffle! - It has lots and lots of drama, and also has comedy. It has various twists so it turns out to be a great watch.

^I didn't put Love Hina up there only because I don't like lighthearted anime.

Pie <3
01-15-2007, 10:22 PM
BleAcH sUX . nArUTO IS mUcH cOoleR.
mAINlly cuz nArUTo hAs mUCh cOoleR haiR

M_Ghey
01-15-2007, 10:52 PM
Neither Naruto nor Bleach have anything pecial about them, just the usual, mundane, stereotypical characters and storyline.

Undying
01-15-2007, 10:55 PM
And that was your great addition to the conversation, Pie? Way to go, dear. Way to go.

And if that was sarcasm, it wasn't funny :).

Anyway, I got bored of that shit about midway through the reading.

First of all, his exmaple made me laugh: "One piece is better than Bleach". One Piece has Luppi doing the same: "Gomu <name>" and pwnzoring his opponent. Yeah. So much better. Loads of sad pasts and depth too, there. With some more "Gomu >name<" in between.

Second, if the shithead doesn't want to watch Bleach, he doesn't have to flame it, expecially since Bleach is more Seinen than Shounen (surprise!). It focuses more on character realtionships than battles. Ooh, surpirse, all the battles are the same.

Yeah they are. Surprised? This is what happens when you are watching Seinen: you get less unpredicatble battles and more deep character relationships.

BUT WHY IS IT THAT IN BLEACH I DON'T SEE ANY SERIOUS RELATIONSHIPS?

Because a. they are very subtle and you have to look for them, b. theere are a lot of characters so it will take ages to see them all.

So, you get a baby Seinen/Shounen anime, and you immediatly decide it's shitty. Genius, say I.

And indeed, this belongs more in the Bleach section.

Forgot to add: Naruto has the shitties character cast ever intoduced in the anime world. I still hate all of the characters in naruto.

M_Ghey
01-15-2007, 11:05 PM
I think Bleach is a lot more shonen than seinen, Undying. It follows the shonen outline of teenage heroes finding out they have powers, male teenage hero saves a girl in distress. Upgrade to powers. A new evil guy emerges. Another upgrade. It is a formula more evident in shonen and seinen. Seinen animes like Trigun, Gungrave, Berserk, etc. have a very different stucture. And when the structure is diffrent, you can make the characters and story more deep as well.

Novoxis
01-15-2007, 11:24 PM
Tough one alright. Envy does have incredible strength and endurance, being a homuculus and all. As Targ said Lee's speed is superior to begin with and with the fifth gate he could end it, but it's his trump. So if he used it and failed to end the fight there and then, the victory is Envy's. No doubt about it.

Undying
01-15-2007, 11:27 PM
That's why I said it's seinen/shounen and not "it's seinen".

Of course it follows a lot of the shounen structure, and so on. But it's untrue that a new villian appears constantly - Bleach only had one supervillian so far (unlike other shounen anime with a constant stream of new supervillians).

Whatever. My point is, it does have a lot of seinen in it, so the battles aren't the main focus.

BTW, if you saw Tenjou Tenge, you'd see a lot of repetitive battles there two. Does it make Tenjou Tenge any less?

And also, unlike other shounen anime, the girl in question isn't the main focus... it's the idea behind it.

Undying
01-15-2007, 11:31 PM
d^_^b damn awesome stuff.

Pie <3
01-16-2007, 12:24 AM
And that was your great addition to the conversation, Pie? Way to go, dear. Way to go.

And if that was sarcasm, it wasn't funny :).



You can't blame me for trying :p


And this arguement is as pointless as me having sex with a girl.

It's liek

1st Guy "Naruto is teh pwnz"

2nd guy "no uh! Bleach pwnz naruto . Fuckin narutard"

1st guy "NO UH"


Who really cares tbh:p
This thread is obv just to get more post count:)

Jay3205
01-16-2007, 12:25 AM
Hmm, I think Envy would win. Lee would have the advantage in the beginning and would beat him up pretty badly, but eventually he'll wear down. I don't think he can kill Envy enough times to wear out his philosopher stone, so he'd eventually lose from exhaustion.

M_Ghey
01-16-2007, 12:41 AM
Not at all. If you actually took the time to read the posts, you would see that me, Terra and guyklc were having a serious conversation that actually required thought. This isn't a Naruto vs. Bleach thread.

ultimate
01-16-2007, 01:32 AM
This is the link: http://forums.bleachportal.net/showthread.php?t=22139
I didn't call the thread Bakumatsu Kikansetsu Irohanihoheto, maybe thats why u couldnt find it since I wasn't sure if I could fit the whole name in the thread title, sorry about that lol

Thelindra
01-16-2007, 01:58 AM
omg~! they look so good in that~! *glomps the pic*

defintely something worth seeing ^^

Planeswalker
01-16-2007, 02:00 AM
Heres a script that might not be real:
The cover seems to be called "Personal introductions?"

ティーチ「ゼハハハ喜べエース!お前が”生贄”第一号だ!」
Teach: Zehahahaha. Cheer up, Ace! You’re gonna be “victim” #1!

オーガー「船長のクロクロの実の能力、如何なる物か…」
Auger: The captain's black black fruit, can handle anything...

エース「何の能力だろうと関係ェねェ!!火拳…」
Ace: It doesn’t matter what your power is!! Hiken…

ティーチ「てめぇら下がってろ!!」(デカイ火拳が飛んでくる)
Teach: You all get back!! (A giant hiken/firefist comes flying at them)

全員「…!?」(火拳の先からエースの顔が浮かぶ)
Blackbeard Pirates: …!? (Ace’s face appears out of the front of the hiken attack)

エース「地獄絵図!!(インフェルノ)」(火拳の先からエースが大の字で現れ至近距離で大爆発)
どーん!
Ace: Inferno!! (From the front of the Hiken attack, Ace appears as a giant 大 (big) symbol and creates a giant explosion at incredibly close range)

場面が変わり青キジが自転車で海を走っている。
*The scene then changes to Aokiji, riding his bike across the sea.

青キジ「はぁ~…まさかバスターコール発動とは…つくづく面倒な連中だ」
Aokiji: Ha~…to think that they ended up having to use the Buster Call…those guys really are complete pains in the ass.

ある島に着き浜辺で寝転がる。
*He lands on an island and passes out on the beach.

青キジ「休憩休憩~と。」
Aokiji: Breaktime. Time for a break.

回想
*Aokiji flashback

スパンダム「ゴゴゴゴ、ゴールデンでんでん虫!?」
Spandam: A go, go, golden dendenmushi!?

青キジ「君はこれ持ってるだけで十分。万が一にもニコ?ロビンを逃がさないための鎖だ。」
Aokiji: All you gotta do is hold onto it. It’s a chain to keep Nico Robin from running on the off-chance that she tries.

スパンダム「たかが女一人に?CP9が罪人一人逃がすヘマをするとでも…」
Spandam: All for just one woman? Are you implying that CP9 might somehow screw up badly enough to let one criminal get away…

青キジ「念のためってやつよ。間違っても使うなよ……じゃ、俺帰るわ。」
Aokiji: It’s a “just in case” measure. Don’t use it even if you do screw up…Well then, I’m leaving.

回想終了
*End of flashback

青キジ「ぐー…」zzz
Aokiji: ZZZZZZZZ…

どーーーーん(島の向こう側から爆発音が聞こえる)
**BOOOM (We hear a giant explosion from the other side of the island)

青キジ「!?」
Aokiji: !?

場面変わりエースvsティーチ
*Scene change back to Ace vs. Teach

エース「……何をした。」
Ace: …what did you do.

ティーチ「ハァ…ハァ…ゼハハハ気分はどうだ兄弟!」
Teach: Haaa…haaa….zehahaha! How do you feel, bro!

エースの両腕が無くなっている。
*Both of Ace’s arms are gone.

ドクQ「…グフッ!あぁ…こ、これが”闇”!!?」
Doc. Q: …Cough! Ah…th…this is “darkness”!!?

ティーチ「なんでも飲み込むクロクロの実の能力!俺は最強の力を手に入れたんだ!!ゼハハハハハ」
Teach: It’s the power of the dark dark fruit (literally: kuro kuro = black black) that can swallow up anything! I got the strongest power of all! Zehahaha.

エース「……」
Ace: …

ティーチ「ハァ…ハァ…どうしたエース?感想を聞かせろよ!ゼハハハ」
Teach: Ha…Ha…How does it feel, Ace? Tell me your impressions! Zehahaha.

エース「ふんっ!」(両肩から炎を出しながら腕が復活)
Ace: PHOOOO! (His arms regenerate as flames shoot out of both his shoulders)

ティーチ「!?」
Teach: !?

エース「確かに”能力”は最強かもしれない。だがお前は能力者の戦いを解っちゃいない。」
Ace: Your “ability” may very well be the strongest. But you don’t know how devil fruit users fight.

ティーチ「ゼハハハハこいつは参った!!」
Teach: Zehahaha. Well that’s true I guess!!

エース「”ゾオン”や”パラミシア”なら飲み込まれて終わりだろうが”ロギア”に原型は無い。」
Ace: You might be able to suck up Zoans or Paramecians, but Logia’s have no real form.

エース「俺はメラメラの実の能力者”火拳”のエースだ!」
Ace: I’m the user of the Mera mera fruit, “Firefist” Ace!

エース脳内【…だからよけいルフィに会わせる訳にはいかねェ。そろそろあの紙を…】
Ace (mental): …and that’s why I really can’t allow him to meet up with Luffy. It’s about time I (use) that paper…

離れたところから見ながら
*Burgess and Doc Q are watching from afar

バーチェス「おいおいやべェんじゃないのか?」
Burgess: Hey, isn’t this getting bad?

ドクQ「あぁ…やはり経験の少ない”能力”での戦いに、グフッ…船長はかなり消耗している。」
Doc Q: Yeah…it seems as though *cough* the captain is exhausting himself as he doesn’t have much experience fighting as an ability user.

オーガー「退いたほうが身のためと?」
Auger: Then retreating might be best?

ラフィット「そのようですね。どうやら招かれざる客が1名…」
Laffite: It would seem so. And there seems to be an uninvited guest…

エースがいたっぽいところからシルエットの人物がすごい勢いで息を吹きかける
*Scene jumps back to Ace looking beaten up as a silhouette is breathing on him.

???「フゥ~~」
???: Phooooo~~

エース「!?火拳!!!」(息に向かって火拳)
Ace: !? Hiken!!! (Aiming for where the breath is coming from)

ティーチ「!!ムダぁ!!」(息を吸収)
Teach: !! That won’t work!! (sucks in air)

エースの所だけジュ~~~と蒸発しザーーと雨が降る
*Evaporation occurs only around Ace and then it starts to rain.

ティーチ「ハァハァ…こいつぁちっと予想外だな。」
Teach: Ha…ha…well this is unexpected.

???「騒がしいと思ったらなによ?君たち。」
???: And here I thought it was awfully noisy. What are you all doing?

エース「てめェか!こんなところでなにしてる!」
Ace: It’s you! What the hell are you doing in a place like this!

青キジ「いやいやいや海のクズ共。君たちこそ…」
Aokiji: No no no, garbage of the sea. What are YOU all doing…

青キジ「こんなところでなにしてる?」青キジの顔アップ
Aokiji: …in a place like this? *Ends with Aokiji

次号へ
*End of this week’s chapter

ghey b
01-16-2007, 02:12 AM
hmm not a whole lot going on in here... has anyone gotten up to episode 10 yet? what do you guys think so far. I really am enjoying this anime, as you can probably tell by the new sig..

i made a thread and then was told about this one, but here are some links that i had in my first post of d/l links.

Current Episode Downloads

.rmvb format (http://www.rm-anime.uni.cc/index.php?page=Bakumatsu_Downloads)
.avi format (http://xtcanime.com/xtcforum/downloads.php?do=cat&id=1)

ninjabot
01-16-2007, 02:46 AM
Since this is KH2 version Sephiroth, I had to re-read up on his skills before destroying this topic...hence the long time without replies. I took the liberty of letting Sephiroth beat them all one by one rather than in one fell swoop, just for you Org. XIII fans. Enjoy...

Xigbar fires from afar, attempting to hit the speedy Sephiroth or atleast keep him pre-occupied while Xaldin circles lances around him as well. Sephiroth simply uses his speed and/or teleportations to escape the swarm of bullets and lances, to find Saix prepared to take the head-on approach. They clash several times before Seph launches a flaming pillar that sucks Saix toward it with it's gravitational pull. Sephiroth is now free to perform a fatal Omnislash on Saix, but is teleported to a narrow corridor by Xigbar, saving his partner who was too busy avoiding the pillar to fight back. This allows Saix to hold back long enough for the pillar to die off...but was a mistake, since Xigbar is now forced to deal with Sephiroth alone. Xigbar then goes into sniper-mode, aiming at Sephiroth with the sights of his "guns". He fires away with abandon at Sephiroth...who teleports behind him and impales him, the same way he did Aeris...*sniff*. One down.

After the space-time manipulation wears off because of Xigbar's death, Xaldin and Saix can now see their opponent cleaning the blood from his sword, standing victorious over his opponent. Before Sephiroth can mutter something all cool-like, Xaldin launches a row of lances at Sephiroth, who is surprised...but still fast enough to jump over the assault, merely suffering a scratch on his coat. Saix however, enraged by the indifference of his opponent, meets Sephiroth in the air and swings his sword/axe/mace thingie downward, attempting to bludgeon Sephiroth's head. Sephiroth blocks with the Masamune...but is forced back down to the ground. A smile spreads across his face, as he sees the anger well up in the eyes of his enemies. The death of their comerade. The realization that everything they had planned up until now was all for naught, thanks to him. The thought that the strength they boasted of so much, paled in comparison to his own...it was euphoric to Sephiroth. He cackled menacingly as he simply deflected, parried, and countered Xaldin and Saix alike, before Xaldin, in a rage, disappears from the battlefield and reappears on a massive dragon. Saix leaps out of the path of the dragon's breath attack...and Sephiroth teleports just as the breathe attack barelly touches him, giving the illusion that he had been incinerated and placeing him out of view. Saix calls out to Xaldin, who doesn't hear him because of the roar of the dragon...once again, a well placed Masamune to the back ends the life of one of Org. XIII. Two down.

While Sephiroth belittles the corpse of Xaldin and the dragon disappears. Saix attacks him from behind, taking a page out of Sephiroth's book. The blow launches Sephiroth across the battlefield into a mountain, leaving a massive crater in the side. Surprised, Sephiroth looks up to find an army of Heartless and Nobodies surrounding him, and an enraged Saix disappearing, then reappearing above him, attempting to crush him into the ground. Sephiroth teleports out of the way, but is placed in between the thick of the army. Saix, in Berserk mode, slays Heartless and Nobodie alike as he runs fullspeed, swinging like a madman while searching for Sephiroth. Sephiroth simply teleports in random intervals, allowing Saix to take out the enemies for him. Occasionally, he would cut down one or two droves inorder to give him breathing room, but after a few minutes, he grew bored and decided to end things sooner rather than later. After floating into the air, Sephiroth releases a maelstrom of meteors, completely wiping out everything he saw. Saix rises up from beneath the thousands of dead minions, drained from the onslaught, but further enraged. Soon, Sephiroth's sword pierces through his back and out of his chest as yet another Org. XIII member is finished...or so Sephiroth thought. Saix turns and strikes Sephiroth once again with his weapon, launching him away and forming a trench in the ground from him slideing backwards from the force of the attack. Sephiroth, no longer underestimating his opponent, uses several of his homing orb attack (the one that appears around you and follows you), and a few of his flaming pillar attacks at the same time. While Saix is busy avoiding said attacks, he feels his strength begin to leave his body...and notices the Halo that floated above his opponent's head (Sin something...harvest maybe?). Sephiroth then teleports directly in front of Saix, kicking him backward into a wall...which forces the Masamune, which is still stuck in his back, to be pushed in deeper. Saix falls down to his knees as Sephiroth walks over to him. He picks up Saix's weapon, and with one swipe, beheads his opponent.

Now this is alot more honorable than me just saying he'll use Sin Harvest and his meteor attack back to back and kill them all in one fell swoop. You should be happy. Likewise, evertime one of them died, it was in a situation where they would not/could not teleport through darkness, so...there.

D-King
01-16-2007, 02:59 AM
*cough* OMGWTFMEGASEPHIFANBOYALERT *cough*

Well, when you look at it in a fanfic point of view then sure whaever you say, your story. But instead of putting in all that, let's simply put it like this. (N.B. Full moon= Berserk Saix)

1. From the beginning, as soon as Sephiroth even thinks of using that pillar is a big mistake. You should listen more. Saix is invincible when in that state. Therefore, Sephiroth's fire pillars are ineffective. Which means already he's taken a direct, fatal attack from BERSERK Saix.

2. Xaldin summons his dragon and makes it attack forward...which is why Xigbar teleported the wounded Sephiroth right into the dragon's attack, while Saix can also go into the attack to give more damage due to invincibilty.

Need I say more?
If you need anymore Sephiroth pwnage lemme know.

D-King
01-16-2007, 03:04 AM
@ ninjabot- umm riiight....

Well anyway enough info has been given to show Byakuya gets pwned by Xemnas. And wth I completely forgot about Xemnas being a chaser. Well that about sums it up.

D-King
01-16-2007, 03:06 AM
Well I've never seen Samurai Champloo as of yet, but from what you guys say, it seems I overestimated Mugen. Ah well, when you look at it, Afro is pretty damn pwnage. I mean wth, he could probably have eventually taken down Mugen when he was a kid (referring to episode 2).

ninjabot
01-16-2007, 03:23 AM
I should listen more? Wow, man...How well did you read my post by the way? Also, compare the lifebars of Sephiroth and the Org. XIII group before assuming the dragon would end Sephiroth so quickly. Same fact applies to a direct attack from Berserk Saix. And I completely remember posting that the flaming spiral was to pull Saix toward it, not kill him. It's called strategy. So now Saix is immune to gravity, huh? While he's pulling away from the attack, Sephiroth is busy annihilating his other opponents...get it? No. No, you don't.

You know what? Sin move+meteor move=dead everybody anyway. If we can agree on anything, it'll be the fact that I just completely wasted a totally good, intelligent post...sigh.

Starlight
01-16-2007, 03:25 AM
Wow. All that explaining of how Sephy wins just got owned. Personally, I think Sephiroth loses anyway. But that was an interesting story.

ninjabot
01-16-2007, 03:46 AM
Quick question before a legitimate post from me: What's the point of having a fight, where all opponents are stripped of their strengths? If they do happen to lose the fight, then it's because of a handycap, and not because their opponent was superior.

When I start a thread here, I usually go for similarities and semi-equal powerlevels because those make for the most kick-ass fights. Tekkaman vs. Guyver, due to them both being bio-armor wearers and they focus on bladed weapon melee fighting. Sora and Riku vs. Dante and Vergil because both sides are a duo of swordsmen who make a perfect team, and can weild powerful magic aswell.

I can't help but think that every arena thread that Cloud and Sephiroth appear in are simply because the thread's creator hates the character that much. It's...sad...

D-King
01-16-2007, 03:52 AM
Lmao, it did get owned didn't it? Just another fanboy that doesn't want to face that fact so whatever...

Jeez, you're not even listening to yourself. The way you did it was not game like, am I right? Ofcourse I am. Therefore, I'm saying that Sephiroth would get pwned just like that. He'd get pwned anyway anime or game.

Do I really need to explain this next point? Really,what's the point of strategy if it's a failure? If Sora can get away from the pillars by a simple glide, then I dunno what else you're looking for. Therefore, downward pull due to gravity + direct force+ immunity = evn more pwnage.
lol, see what I mean? Listen. I dunno where the pulling back comes in though..even if...Berserk Leap> Glide.

lolol...Sephiroth would have some serious balls to try to use Sin whatever against three of the most powerful Organization XIII members. Would you? Think before you talk about an attack that takes like 5 secs to pwn. And trust me, we've seen the damage these guys can do in one second and I'm not over exaggerating if you've played on hard against em. Remember, one attack and Sin angel's intercepted. Need I say more?

So yea...intelligent indeed. o.O"

EDIT:Well...i'm out for tonight...

ninjabot
01-16-2007, 04:06 AM
I think you guys over-estimate the power of Soul Caliber. The most destructive attacks Siegfried has in the game is the one where he cuts you with his sword...and...the other one where he cuts you with his sword. Seriously. No projectiles. No super-fast cutting combos. No battelfield destroying explosions. No summons. No magic. No equippable status aids...

...Against Cloud. Really. Not even Nightmare, just...regular Siegfried. Cloud wins hands down. What? You wanna take away Cloud's repertoire AGAIN? Fine. He still wins. Simply too strong/fast for Siegfried (jenova cells, mako, you know the drill). Soul Calibur heals you, but you can still be killed with it equipped.

ninjabot
01-16-2007, 04:40 AM
Aww...don't run off now! It's getting good! See guys, calling people names because they don't like what you like is a sign of childishness. That, and insulting someone, then leaving before they can confront you is MAD suspect. That's a different topic though...and I didn't appreciate you calling me a fanboy.

I was confused as to why you would continue to delude yourself down a path of self-doubt, stubbornness, and futility. I got it now though. It's ok to get emotional. I can understand why you're getting huffy, but cheer up pal! It'll be alright! You like KH2, and I like FF7. Let's leave it at that, huh?

♥ Tess
01-16-2007, 04:55 AM
lol, good point ninja bot ^
though i admit siegfried is one of my fav. characters in sc.
can't picture him beating cloud (w/out omnislash, summons or any materia)

ninjabot
01-16-2007, 05:08 AM
Okay, I know it's a taboo to use DBZ characters, simply because of how uber they are. But look at Savage Hulks feats first. First of all, he once punched an asteroid twice the size of planet Earth and destroyed it instantly. That was a punch, not a ki blast, I mean...come on! That, and that quote he says in the comics: "Madder Hulk get, stronger Hulk get!" is true. There is no known limit to his physical strength, as it is ever growing. Also recently, on Planet Hulk, he traveled to the planet's core and held the tectonic plates together with his bare hands, preventing the planet from being destroyed. He also has almost instantaneous healing abilities, as seen when Vector flayed his flesh off completely, and it regenerated in a matter of minutes. Trauma also shot him in half with a special radiation inducing cannon, and he grew new legs...

Goku is faster, smarter (which isn't saying much...) and is a better fighter. Also, he's got his ki techniques. He could blow up the planet...but Hulk doesn't need oxygen to live, as he travels through outerspace on the outside of rockets. I'm guessing if Goku uses instantaneous movement to place him in the sun, then run back to earth, maybe he'd win? If he tries punching him over and over, he's just gonna get stronger and stronger...until he grabs him and bites his head off...

So?

Momentum
01-16-2007, 05:29 AM
Hmm..Goku can keep flying away from Hulk and then do Kamehameha or something but if Hulk gets too close to Goku he could just like teleport somewhere and fly away again and do something....tough match really..

Jay3205
01-16-2007, 05:46 AM
I don't think Goku could win. He's not strong enough to physically overpower the Hulk, and his ki blasts aren't strong enough to hurt Hulk that much.

ninjabot
01-16-2007, 06:57 AM
Uh oh! Somebody made an arena battle with Cloud, and forgot to handycap him! Well, you know what that means right? Summons, Limit Breaks, alternate weapons, potions, materia, and one dead Ichigo. Shunpo? Slow, stop, or haste on Cloud will take care of that. Then debuff the hell outta him and add poision and darkness to him to open up a larger can of whoopass. Man, I'm starting to see why he has to be entered into arena fights with a handycap. That WAS unfair...

Pie <3
01-16-2007, 06:58 AM
Not at all. If you actually took the time to read the posts.


Effort =/

I will scimm (spelling?) through it.

decaed
01-16-2007, 07:56 AM
@J.B. Killa I have watched every episode so far and like you I am enjoying it. I think I check Baka everyday hoping SS has released another sub.

Damier
01-16-2007, 08:07 AM
I like Kagutsuchi the best, with Duran coming in second.

I have always favoured dragons, so it is not about Kagutsuchi's insanely unfair amount of power.
I would still like Kagutsuchi more, even if Duran was more powerful.

I think, third place, would go to Juliet.

Shinji
01-16-2007, 08:34 AM
I would imagine the above is fake.

Here's a picture posted by BF and it doesn't seem to match the script.

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/4513/35184549710122489loxj2.jpg

Kuroi Getsuga Tenshou
01-16-2007, 09:08 AM
what the hell is happening????

StoneTitan
01-16-2007, 10:58 AM
Could someone make an argument for Naruto being the winner???

One after reading my other post:

Hmm... I think Renji useing Zabimaru's Shikai would be more then enough to deal with any number of Clones, even with his eyes closed.

Remember he can sense Spirits, so he will eventually know who the real one is all the time. And how many shadow clones might one swing of Zabimaru take... Perhaps 20 percent or more of em if we were to say there were a Hundred Spread all out(Needs to be a very hard cover for it not to cut through(REmember Zabimaru has cut throungh Tree & Stonewalls)

So if we were to say that Narutos weapons don't use "Raichi" so that Renji wouldn't be able to sense them comming...


What would then happen?

An easy win, corse that would be an admition that they were simply materials not having whats needed to Touch a Shinigami.

Silhouette
01-16-2007, 11:20 AM
Don't get us wrong. Mugen & Jin from Samurai Champloo are pretty damn pwnage, its just that Afro is too...what's the word..."intense" for them?

Silhouette
01-16-2007, 11:22 AM
lmao? Think about what you're saying. Sora and Riku vs Dante and Vergil? Maybe someone hates Sora and Riku?

And why the hell would you revive a fight that was obviously made because the owner was tired of fanboys/girls speaking nonsense to make two overrated characters win every fight they're in?

Silhouette
01-16-2007, 11:29 AM
@ninjabot: I'll read your first later.

But, responding to your most recent post, its a forum. It doesn't matter if the person leaves, because you can always post for them to see it?

And the fact that you favor one game over another shouldn't cloud your judgement.. lmao.. Cloud your judgement. You like that, eh? :whatevah:

Anywho. Let's not make Saix invincible at all times, just to be a tad bit fairer? Just intervals. Not that it matters. >_>;

{edit}That post is complete and utter fanboy nonsense.

Xigbar:
1. Xigbar wouldn't be killed by one stab.

2. Seph can't teleport behind him in a narrow platform. Why? Because he can't jump from the sides, and Xigbar is at the end of it.

3. Xigbar can teleport too. Not just manipulate space. kthx.

4. And I doubt he would just teleport Seph. He and Xaldin could be brought to the narrow platform.

5. Or, he could just teleport Seph to that tiny platform, in which dodging is almost impossible, and unleash a thousand white arrows on his ass.

And you even put fanboy stupidity in paragraph 2. -_-"

Xaldin:
1. I'd also say that he can't be killed with one simple stab.
2. He can create shields with wind.

Not much else about him.

Saix:
1. lmao? He doesn't give a rat's ass about anyone but himself. He's a manipulative mind raper. If you know what I mean. In fact, he'd take the opportunity of Seph stabbing one of the others to sneak up on him.

2. You've forgotten about Saix's onslaught in Berserk mode? You know, when he races around at high speeds. When all of his attacks send out devistating waves of energy?

3. And the fact that he's invincible during Berserk mode? Seph would have to wait out the attack.

4. His weapon is a...can't remember the name, but it's a sword. Which means that it can cut. Especially with those spikes on the end. Seph wouldn't just get knocked back from the blows, he'd get cut up.

The combo of you underestimating the XIII, and overrating Seph because you love him, has clouded your judgement. No FF7 pun intended this time. :whatevah:

Silhouette
01-16-2007, 12:20 PM
Um, since Nightmare with Soul Edge is capable of doing large battlefield destroying explosions, I'm sure that Siegfried with Soul Calibur could. Obviously he doesn't do them in a game fight, because that would be cheap. Kinda cheap like FF7 abilities, eh? Which I why I use their KH versions. They're still powerful, but not in a fanboy/girl godmod way.

{edit}But his is an old thread, which is why I foolishly made it FF7 Cloud.

You're just searching through this section, looking for any and all Cloud/Seph battles, aren't you, ninjabot? =_="

ultimate
01-16-2007, 01:35 PM
Like u guys I have also watched every episode and also enjoying it, too bad it takes a while for the subbed version to come out... I think the RAWs are up to ep12 or something so its not like its way behind or anything

Arei
01-16-2007, 02:05 PM
Power to the afro!!

I agree with what everyone else has said, he's a little intense with better stance and better capable of raising some hell; he'd so pwn Mugen annnyday :)

Alienor
01-16-2007, 02:21 PM
Hey, why isn't there an "I wouldn't use it but I'd keep it just in case" option?

Insight
01-16-2007, 04:38 PM
thats what i'd like to know and that script sounds to good to be true haveing such an awesome 3 way (hehehe three some) still if there's whitebeard and shanks thats just as good.

Neko Rae
01-16-2007, 04:38 PM
Yeah, there should be. that's probably what I would do too

Buuhan1
01-16-2007, 06:32 PM
Another script.


第441话「闇」
Chapter 441: Darkness

ティーチの周りを巨大な闇が包む
*A giant mass of darkness begins to envelop Teach

エース「闇・・・?」
Ace: Darkness…?

ラフィット「出ましたね。船长の摩诃不思议ヤミヤミの実の能力」
Lafitte: There it is. The power of the captain’s mysterious yami yami fruit (yami = dark(ness)).

ドクQ「ゲフ これは见物」 ストロンガー「バヒーン」
Doc Q: *cough* It’s quite the sight.

Stronger (Q’s Horse): Neeee heee heee.

バージェス「ケッ 船长のやつ一人で暴れるつもりかよ!」
Burgess: Shit, is the captain planning on going on a rampage all by himself?

ラフィット「・・・1时间前まで家を破壊し続けて船长が言うまで暴れるのを止めなかったのはどこの谁です? 」
Lafitte: …And who was the one who until an hour ago wouldn’t stop rampaging and tearing up this town until the captain said something?

バージェス「・・・ったくよォ!」
Burgess: ….dammit, whatever!

ティーチ「ゼハハハ!知らねえようだなエース これが自然系ヤミヤミの能力だ!」
Teach: Zehahaha! You don’t seem to know anything about this, Ace. This is the power of the logia type yami yami fruit!

エース「(自然系にしてもなんか妙な雰囲気だぜ・・・ヤツの言う异质ってのは・・・)」
Ace (mental): It sure has a weird vibe about it, even for a logia type…what does he mean by it being different…

ティーチ「もう一回讯くぜエース!おれ达の仲间になって、一绪に世界をひっくり返す気はあるか !?」
Teach: I’ll ask you one more time, Ace! You wanna join us and, together, turn this world on its head!?

エース「・・・何度讯いても同じだ おれァおまえらの仲间にゃならねえし・・・おまえは」
 「おれが始末する!!」 「火弓(ひきゅう)!!」 
Ace: …My answer’s the same no matter how many times you ask. I’m not gonna join you…and I’m…

Ace: …going to finish you!! Hikyuu (flame bow)!!!

炎の矢がエースの腕から放たれる ティーチの体に突き刺さるが、ティーチの体がそれを饮み込む
*A flame arrow shoots out from Ace’s arm. It pierces Teach’s body, but Teach’s body just swallows up the arrow.

エース「!?」
Ace: !?

ティーチ「・・・残念だぜェ エース てめえのその能力は白ヒゲん所にいるままじゃ手に余るハズだろうによ ォ・・・」
Teach: …a shame, Ace. That power of yours will just go to waste if you stay with Whitebeard…

エース「(火弓を吸収したのか・・・?) 火拳!!」
Ace (mental): He sucked up my fire bow attack…?

Ace: Hiken (fire fist)!!

バージェス「またあれか!おいでけえ火がくるぞ!隠れろ!」
Burgess: That again! Hey, a bigass flame is coming our way! Hide!

オーガー「心配无用」
Auger: No point in worrying.

ティーチ「ゼハハハ・・・无駄だぜエース おれの体は」 
Teach: Zehahaha…it’s pointless, Ace. My body’s…

ティーチが完全に闇と同化 火拳も饮み込む
*Teach turns completely to darkness and swallows up the fire fist attack

エース「なっ・・・」
Ace: Wha…

バージェス「おお!」
Burgess: Whoa!!

ティーチ「“闇”さ!相手がどんな能力者だろうが関系ねえ!」 「饮み込んで・・・かき消すまでだ!これが最强の能力なんだよエース!」
Teach: …darkness! It doesn’t matter what my opponent’s abilities might be. All I have to do is swallow them up and drown them out! That’s what the strongest ability is, Ace!

エース「(火拳まで・・・饮み込みやがった・・・!)」
Ace (mental): He even sucked up…the fire fist…!

エース焦る
*Ace is now panicked

オーガー「フム やはり恐るべき能力」
Auger: Humph, it really is quite the fearsome ability.

ティーチ「残念だがエース もう终わりにしなきゃならねえ」「さっきも言ったとおり・・・おれ达はこれから おまえの弟をブチ杀しにいく」
Teach: It’s really a shame Ace, but I need to finish this up. It’s like I said earlier…we gotta go and kill your little brother.

エース「(ルフィ・・・!)」
Ace (mental): Luffy…!

ティーチ「おめえにゃ麦わらへの手土产になってもらうぜ ゼハハハ!兄弟合わせて7亿ベリーだ !」
Teach: And I’ll make you my gift to the Strawhats. Zehahaha! The brothers together totaling 700 million belly!

エース「・・・フザけやがって!ティーチてめえ・・・」
Ace: …stop fucking around! Teach, you…

ティーチが目をかっぴらくと同时に岛全体が夜みたいに真っ暗になる
*As Teach’s opens his eyes wide, the whole island becomes covered in darkness as though it were night.

エース「!!?」
Ace: !!?

ティーチ「“日蚀(エクリプス)”」 
Teach: “Eclipse (literally, Sun Eater)”

时间が経过し、岛を出ようと船に乗り込むティーチ达の场面に変わる バージェスが気を失ったエースを担いで る
*The scene changes to a while later where Teach and his crew are getting ready to board their ship and leave the island. Burgess is carrying a passed out Ace.

バージェス「こいつはどうすんだ船长?」
Burgess: What’re we gonna do with him, Captain?

ティーチ「ゼハハハ また燃えた时に目立つように マストのてっぺんにでも缚りつけとくとするかァ!ゼハハ ハハハ!」
Teach: Zehahaha. Maybe let’s tie him to the top of the mast so that when he lights up again he’ll stand out.

场面かわってサニー号 宴会の後かナミ以外全员寝ている
*Scene change to the Sunny after the party where everyone except Nami is asleep

ナミ「ったくロビンまで・・・」 
Nami: I swear. Even Robin…

ナミ笑颜
*Nami smiles

  「・・・!? あれ 何かしら?」
Nami: …!? Huh, what’s that?

サニー号の先に见えるのは门の柱のようにそびえたつ二本の大岩
*In front of the Sunny, we can see two giant rocks towering up like the pillars of a gate.


それぞれのてっぺんに鱼人が座ってる 坊主とロンゲ
*There is a merman sitting on each of the two rocks. One is bald and the other has long hair.

「おい クマ颜の船が来たぜ兄弟」
Hey, a bear-faces ship came, bro.

「バカ兄弟 おめえありゃどう见てもラッコだろうが」
Bro, you idiot. Look at it! It’s obviously a sea otter!

ninjabot
01-16-2007, 06:49 PM
You noticed, huh? I try to do my part as a fellow FF7 fan. And I'll have a lotta posting to do too, seeing as how much hate that game gets. You know...Squall can do just about as much as Cloud, yet no one is making hate threads about him, which brings me to my next arena battle. Please follow me in a timely manner to my Final Fantasy Battle Royale.

Jay3205
01-16-2007, 07:07 PM
Please, put fanboyism aside. Cloud could poison/darkness/summon/limit break Ichigo, but this isn't a FF video game. Cloud's abilities are not instant, and Ichigo would be able to dodge much of it. Cloud can block bullets from 2 opponents. Ichigo can block hundreds of millions of flying razor blades in a few seconds. Cloud would not get the chance to use all his materia and attacks. Ichigo could shunpo and attack Cloud from behind, and there's not much he could do about it. Even hasting Cloud to five times his normal speed wouldn't be nearly as fast as Ichigo.

A serious Ichigo would own Cloud. Cloud would never get his chance to use his attacks.

ichi-ichi-tactic
01-16-2007, 07:15 PM
In all arena fights there is no materia, summons.

ninjabot
01-16-2007, 07:21 PM
Well, considering the above posts were meant for your eyes more than anyone elses, I can finaly get serious.

1. As far as not being able to teleport behind Xigbar, we only know that can't be done by Sora, because he doesn't have a teleportation skill. Seph does, and well...there ya go.

2. As far as one-hit-kills go...that WAS a complete exaggeration on my part. But taking Seph's in-game strength into account, and the Org. XIII members hp, one Omnislash will do in the place of the backstabbing. If he can power through the almighty Keyblade's attacks, I'm sure he'll swat right through Xigbar's bullets, or Xaldin's lances...or Saix sword(?).

3. I'm aware of Saix mad-dash shockwave stuff...that was my "fanboy nonsense" coming into play. When he ran around shredding up Nobodies and Heartless alike, that was what he used. Also, Sephiroth stabbing through Saix didn't kill him. You might've saw the part in the post where I said he still turns to attack Sephiroth again, right? It's because he wasn't dead. You can still hit Saix during his Berserk mode, whether it hurts or not. The sword in his back didn't finish it. It was when kicked him to the wall, took his sword, and beheaded him.

4.(These aren't in any kind of order...) As far as sending Saix and Xaldin into the platform with him, Why would Xigbar teleport his partners into the path of his bullets? Cops don't shoot at their partners while they're wrestling criminals to the ground. Likwise with his teleporting, I'm sure he'd like to know where he was teleporting to, right? Focusing on sniping off Sephiroth, he wouldn't have the time to make an escape route. But like said earlier, it'd be an Omnislash rather than a simple stab that offs him. It certainly would'nt take more than that.

5. Yeah, he can come back and read my earlier post. But at the time, I couldn't wrap my head around why someone would start name-calling over something as petty as an arena battle, and I was venting. Seriously, the fan part is fine, because I'm an FF7 fan in every sense of the word. But I'm 21 years old, will be 22 in like...3 weeks, and some guy that doesn't even know me, just called me a BOY, and then left. Not because I seriously offended him, but because I like one game (and games characters) better than another.

Okay, I got the whole logic as to what Fanboy means...but come on. It's supposed to be someone that devotes their whole being to one thing, and seriously takes offense whenever somebody badmouths that one thing, to the point where they get defensive and ignorant. Example? Calling people names because they don't like what you like.

Now, I never insulted anybody...I questioned dude's intelligence as far as strategy goes...that's it. But name calling? Over something so petty? And I'M considered the fanboy. Hmm...see where I'm going with this?

ninjabot
01-16-2007, 07:34 PM
Every playable character in Final Fantasy history in an all out team-based battle. FF7 vs. FF8! FF9 vs. FF6! FF3 vs...FF3! Whatever you guys can think of. And by playable characters, I mean the original party members (sorry fellow Sephiroth fans, he'll be in the FF villain free-for-all.) In their original Final Fantasy forms, i.e., Vincent would be from FF7, not AC or DOC. Same with Cloud. Each character has his or her full repertoire, whether it be gameplay related or story significant. I was gonna take out summons, but that would instantly eliminate summoners, and I'm trying to keep this fair. Afterall, EVERY Final Fantasy Char fights. This one should be BIG...

ninjabot
01-16-2007, 07:39 PM
I played it...but it was too long ago to remember anything about it. Sorry, I got nothing. I'm guessing Sora wins though?

Starlight
01-16-2007, 07:55 PM
Yeah, I'm gonna go with ninjabot on this. Who is this Jack Russell of Radiata Stories? *remains clueless*

ninjabot
01-16-2007, 07:56 PM
Shouldn't that not be allowed though? Making a post just to rub something in someone elses face? I just posted why I made that thread, because it would've been a cool fight. It would have lasted longer than you'd expect, and while the fight is decided before it begins, it's not a total massacre, both sides were at their best, and we all leave the battlefield without regrets.

Silhouette
01-16-2007, 08:13 PM
What? I'm sure Sora and Riku would regret dying.. If it weren't for all of those abilities, Team KH would definately win.

And I'm not rubbing anything in anyone's face. I'm just sick and tired of fanboy/girls running around here posting, "Sephiroth is god, so he wins." or "Bankai!" in threads that don't even have Shinigami in them.

So what do I do? I make everyone realize that Sephiroth and Cloud aren't gods. And what happens? People still make them seem like gods.

Silhouette
01-16-2007, 08:26 PM
1. As far as not being able to teleport behind Xigbar, we only know that can't be done by Sora, because he doesn't have a teleportation skill. Seph does, and well...there ya go.

Not what I meant. He can't teleport behind him because Xigbar is at the end of a narrow platform.

1. Seph would have to slice through the arrows while moving towards him. Xigbar has plenty of time to either warp the field, or move to the other side.

2. There is an invisible barrier that keeps you on that platform. Xigbar is at the end. To teleport behind him is to teleport past the barrier. Let's say he does this. Ok, so they're both on different sides of the barrier. Pwn?

2. As far as one-hit-kills go...that WAS a complete exaggeration on my part. But taking Seph's in-game strength into account, and the Org. XIII members hp, one Omnislash will do in the place of the backstabbing. If he can power through the almighty Keyblade's attacks, I'm sure he'll swat right through Xigbar's bullets, or Xaldin's lances...or Saix sword(?).

When you post in the Anime Arena, videogame HP doesn't come into play. Why? Because it's just stupid. And they wouldn't be killed with one Omni Slash anyway.

Yeah, the purple arrows are deflectable. The white ones are not. Ever try it? It doesn't work out so well.

The lances, sure, maybe. But definately not Saix's sword.

3. I'm aware of Saix mad-dash shockwave stuff...that was my "fanboy nonsense" coming into play. When he ran around shredding up Nobodies and Heartless alike, that was what he used. Also, Sephiroth stabbing through Saix didn't kill him. You might've saw the part in the post where I said he still turns to attack Sephiroth again, right? It's because he wasn't dead. You can still hit Saix during his Berserk mode, whether it hurts or not. The sword in his back didn't finish it. It was when kicked him to the wall, took his sword, and beheaded him.

I know it didn't kill him, but it did the others. You'd have to get close to Saix to hit him. Which, incase you haven't noticed, isn't all that easy. And you're also forgetting that all three of these guys can teleport using darkness. Xigbar, unlike the other two, can teleport on his own, which is as fast-if not faster-than Seph's teleporting.

4.(These aren't in any kind of order...) As far as sending Saix and Xaldin into the platform with him, Why would Xigbar teleport his partners into the path of his bullets? Cops don't shoot at their partners while they're wrestling criminals to the ground. Likwise with his teleporting, I'm sure he'd like to know where he was teleporting to, right? Focusing on sniping off Sephiroth, he wouldn't have the time to make an escape route. But like said earlier, it'd be an Omnislash rather than a simple stab that offs him. It certainly would'nt take more than that.

It's strategy.

Xigbar teleports himself, Xaldin, and Seph to a narrow platform. Xaldin uses his dragon's blast. Seph can't teleport out of the way because there is no place to teleport to. The blast is a straight beam, and thus can't be teleported past.

Seph is forced to take the blast head on, and blocks it with his sword. Then, out of nowhere, you hear Xigbar say, "Let's see how you dance."

Seph turns his head to see Xigbar getting ready to fire an onslaught of his already powerful white arrows. Seph is defenseless. But here is how I'm not being a hater. I'll give Seph some credit, although this should be the end.

Seph uses all of his strength to knock back Xaldin's blast, and quickly spins around to deflect the arrows(if he can), warping around in the now clear path to avoid the others.

5. Yeah, he can come back and read my earlier post. But at the time, I couldn't wrap my head around why someone would start name-calling over something as petty as an arena battle, and I was venting. Seriously, the fan part is fine, because I'm an FF7 fan in every sense of the word. But I'm 21 years old, will be 22 in like...3 weeks, and some guy that doesn't even know me, just called me a BOY, and then left. Not because I seriously offended him, but because I like one game (and games characters) better than another.

Some people have things to do. Does it really matter when people call you a boy? Does it really upset you so? Psh. There are worse things you can be called. :whatevah:

ninjabot
01-16-2007, 08:30 PM
Surely there are comic fans out there who can make a post considering everything in the past and present that could give each fighter an edge in this fight. Current day Spidey vs. Current day Bats. Who wins? I mean, neither of them are anime characters, but the majority of the threads on here are about videogame characters anyway...why not move over to comics? So who wins?

Silhouette
01-16-2007, 08:30 PM
Jack Russell is the son of Cairn Russell, a legendary dragon slayer. Bla bla, that doesn't matter.

I made this thread before I played KH2. Sora would definately win with his action command abilities and Drives. If Sora couldn't use those, then it'd be a great fight.

Silhouette
01-16-2007, 08:33 PM
I have made a thread with Squall.

Here's the difference between the two. Squall has limits, he is a human being who can lose fights sometimes.

Cloud has Omnislash, Materia, Jenova cells, all that other nonsense. By the time fanboy/girls are done with him and Seph, they are gods.

xDemonDogx
01-16-2007, 08:39 PM
What would be the result of Ichigo vs Aizen vs Mai vs Naruto vs Itachi..it would be a long battle and i would think Aizen would win!!!:redbiggri :redbiggri

Kalashnikov
01-16-2007, 08:41 PM
i dont know but i think just give Siegfried the soul edge complete and he would send cloud flying.

Silhouette
01-16-2007, 08:49 PM
I'm not caught up with comics, but going by what I know on the two(which is a lot), I'm going to have to go with...Batman.

Actually, I don't know. Spiderman is stronger, and Bats has experience fighting stronger guys, but they're usually morons. Spidey is a frickin genius.

...

Intelligence & strategy creation-wise, they're both even.

Strength - Spiderman.

Experience - Batman.

Hand-to-hand combat - Batman. He knows lethal martial arts and whatnot.

Long range combat - Although Bats has all those gadgets, it would take a considerable amount of his strength to break Spidey's webbing. If he get's trapped, then he'd better hope that his hands are near his belt.. >: /

Agility & Speed - even.

Stealth - even.

It basically comes down to experience. Spidey tends to let his emotions get in the way sometimes. Its not easy to get under his skin, but once you do, he'll start being reckless. If Bats can take advantage of that, then he could win.

{edit}Forgot something..
Spidey has an edge. His spider sense. That kinda tips the battle in his favor. He can sense all of Batman's projectile weapons coming at him, whereas Batman can't sense Spidey.

Novoxis
01-16-2007, 08:52 PM
Cloud is an overrated character anyway (and I'm a fan of FF). He's a swordsman like any other meaning another swordsman has the possibility of pwning him and with soul calibur Siegfried will be healing himself so he could easily win.

Night Prowler
01-16-2007, 08:53 PM
Hmm you got a point there Taso but if we're gonna be fair here then we have to imagian if Mugen was in an Anime as "intense" as Afro's, at tbh in that situation Mugen owns, I know Afro's got a dark history but Mugen's is ALOT darker, he was raised on an Island of Criminals ffs.

Mugen>Afro

Kalashnikov
01-16-2007, 08:53 PM
i think Spiderman would definately win..

but if your looking at Spiderman in the comic - his web isnt natural from him - so i think it finishes - which wouldnt be so good..

but i still think that spidey would win - since he has the strength - jumping ability - ability to stick to walls and spider sense and stuff -

ninjabot
01-16-2007, 08:54 PM
While there are worse things to be called, yeah, it matters. Less so when not said in a disrespectful manner. But you can "feel" the hate in that last post. I've cooled down, I'm past that now.

But as far as not teleporting through a beam...why not? I can understand not dashing through it through super-speed, because you run into it head on. Teleportation is when something fades out of space and reappears in another area, right? He'd dissappear, and reappear behind Xaldin. Or inside the barrier that seperates Sephiroth and Xigbar. When Nightcrawler from X-Men teleports, he goes through walls, force fields, etc. Sephiroth should be able to do the same.

Likewise, you say that Sephiroth can't get behind Xigbar because of the narrow pathway that he stands on. Then how does Saix and Xaldin AND Xaldin's dragon manage to fit on it, but Sephiroth can't?

Jay3205
01-16-2007, 08:55 PM
Hmm, my first reaction would be to say Aizen would win. Mai isn't that powerful, and everyone there has enough speed and power to beat her. If Aizen and Ichigo face off, it would give Itachi enough time to use his tsukuyomi on them both. In addition, his sharingan makes him immune to most mind techniques, so Aizen's hypnosis may not work on him. If Ichigo or Aizen go after him first though, he's not fast enough or strong enough to defeat them. I'd still have to go with Aizen though. He's the most powerful, and Itachi probably wouldn't do his most powerful genjutsu right off the bat.

D-King
01-16-2007, 08:58 PM
wow...you're 22 and this' how you act against a post that wasn't even meant to be offensive? What, you rather me call you a fanman or sumn? lol I can't seem to wrap around why you think I was running away when I obviously had to go. What you wanted a reason or something? Jeez, why do you think I said I had to go? So that you knew I wasn't running or something. Well if you're so sensitive then I'll watch what I say cuz you're seriously overreacting. No time for all this commotion anyway (btw I've also played and like FF7....your point? I say it how I see it)

btw, if you check earlier posts, you'll realise you're the one who got pretty flustered up at first anyway. *sigh*...how troublesome.

Well, in any case, I don't see any counters towards them losing to Sephi so until then. And just in advance b4 you get all flustered again I'm doing my art assignment so i'll TRY to be on. Good enough for you?

EDIT: How troublesome, okie I got many assignments to do, but not the point anyway....

D-King
01-16-2007, 09:01 PM
Well, Prowler, i don't think that's really a good explanation enough for Mugen beating Afro. e.g. Whether Goku with a good childhood or Kenshin with a bad, we still know Goku will come out the clear victor. Yu can't change battle levels just like that to fit the situation.

Jay3205
01-16-2007, 09:02 PM
I'd say Spiderman would win. He's much stronger, and he could kill Batman in one good hit if he wanted to. His spider sense would also allow him to dodge most of Batman's traps. Also, his reflexes are too good. Even with Batman's martial arts experience, he doesn't have the reflexes and speed to beat Spiderman in hand to hand combat. Spiderman has dodged bullets in a room full of machine gun fire. Spiderman's mobility also gives him the edge over Batman. In a straight up fight, Batman would lose.

Silhouette
01-16-2007, 09:04 PM
Saix isn't there. Xigbar can stand in the air, or be outside the barrier. The only ones on the platform, that take up space, are Xaldin & Seph.

Xaldin(X), Xaldin's Dragon(>), Xigbar(Xig), barrier(|), and Sephiroth(S)

|X------------------------------>S|Xig

He can't teleport forward, or he'd end up inside the blast. He could teleport outside the barrier, but then Xigbar would shoot him up, or simply change the field.

I said he can't get behind Xig because of the barrier. When Xig transports Sora to the narrow platform, it's like this. Sora(S), Barrier(|), Xigbar(X)

|X____________S|

Let's say it were Sephiroth(S) instead?

|X_____________S| He'd teleport behind Xig?

S|X____________| Then what? The barrier prevents him from attacking.

Silhouette
01-16-2007, 09:09 PM
@Night: Not true.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that headband makes him stronger? I missed the part when they were explaining that, and I also missed the 2nd ep..

Mugen is intense, but not...ok, so intense was the wrong word.

Look, basically it comes down to this. Afro can slice missles and bullets in half with ease. Mugen can't. Mugen also mixes break dancing with swordsmanship. That's bad. One slip up, and he's missing a leg or two.

Starlight
01-16-2007, 09:12 PM
I'm sorry if this seems like a stupid thread, but it's not. Uryu is at his max capabilities while Yoko Kurama has five minutes before he changes back into human form. i think YK has a tough fight, but loses in the end.(typo, I think Ishida wins) Of course this is not about me. What do you guys and girls think?:toocool:

ninjabot
01-16-2007, 09:12 PM
Oh yeah, they retconned spidey's powers last year. Now he has organic webbing like in the movie, poisonous stingers that protrude from his wrists (he hit Morlun with it and he turned to dust...) healing abilities (he sleeps in a web coccoon and after he emerges from it, he's healed. Not instantaneous like Wolverine though. Also, there's Iron Spiderman during the current Civil War arc...man, let's just go with Spidey without the Iron Spider suit or the claws.

I go with Spidey, because while Batman has increased his strength and speed to the pinnacle of human perfection...where as Spiderman has SUPER human strength and speed, several times higher than that of peak human perfection. Once, he held up an 11 (or was it 17?) ton factory roof long enough for the people inside to escape while it fell. Batman is the second (maybe first) in DC when it comes to martial arts, and he's used to dealing with opponents faster and stronger than him.

But not smarter. Add all these together and Spidey takes the win.

D-King
01-16-2007, 09:12 PM
lol, yea that's very true. You wouldn't dare want to use brea