Prince of Tennis

[Angel_shikigami]

Lol. God, I knew L wanted Light. (hence the handcuff thing)

[TargaryenX]

Who would win? Their speed seems about even, considering that neo can fly fast enough to distort nearby steel buildings with his jetstream. The fight takes place inside the matrix, also assume that neo has whatever weapon he needs available in order to counter Ichigo's zanpakuto. Ichigo is as he is in the current manga arc.

[silverwolf801]

are you crazy there speed are the same hahahahhahahaa. Ichigo would pwn that a @#

[Alerane]

lmao, nice!

[Haskabab]

W00t, that guy has alot of nice flash vids. Would love to know how they make them.

[Haskabab]

Raito is my favourite. He's just a genius and i think what he's doing is right.
Just all of his plans are just so damn sick.

[Haskabab]

I think it's good to kill all bitches in this world.

[Haskabab]

* Must of been studying dedicated Japanese for over 3 years.
And they want people to have good english? Screw Kuro Hana subs...

[Haskabab]

No way, they're totally different. They both have "shinigamis" But the concept of them is totally different. They don't look alike in any way.

[davidn15]

They only similarity is shinigami, and even that is different. Death Note is more supernatural murder case, and bleach is more action-oriented. They're both completely different stories and concepts. There really is no similarity at all.

[Kimochi]

i want !!!! TT but im not even 17 .... no fair .. TT

[Black_Rain]

looooooooolz very hilarious

[Trouse]

Mikami > all. I hope Mikami becomes the god of the new world. With Light as his *****. xD

[Trouse]

Near > Mello, in almost every perceivable way.

[kenicchi]

im not sure, i hope he did kill kaku, i dont want another win, where both sides walk away...

[kenicchi]

Light caught up, now, we need someone to tip the scales...

[Samanosuke]

No love for Mello?

[kenicchi]

yea, but not in height :p

[kenicchi]

lol, atleast he's beating near, that should be enough

[DatLatina!]

you now I lost intrest in DN so i quit after i saw the first part of 29...it suks no offense ppl....DN doesnt make sense anymore

[DatLatina!]

I know that there completely dif. but i dont know why they use shinigamis in dn its stupid

[Kuroi Getsuga Tenshou]

I gott admit that I love "Oinkchuck"'s laugh more :

BUHIHIHIHIHIHI

[Syph]

L. No contest. Eh, the anime just took a major fall after his death.

[jack_zenith]

Its hard to choose between them. I haven't watched the Matrix in quite a while, but if their speed is about the same, I'd have to go with Neo. I mean, his reflexes are amazing, for him to have dodged bullets. Also, Neo has a plethora of weapons to use while Ichigo has only one.

[Decado]

Ichigo would destroy him. Tho I'm not surprised this was raised considering their similar appearance in bankai

Neo can only travel that fast inside the matrix. I doubt he'd be able to even touch Ichigo ... never mind the fact that Bleach isn't even "inside" the matrix

if they just had their powers.. then Ichigo would still win. He's got Vaizard, bankai, getsuga tenshou plus a sword. He's too fast and would just cut him apart





Remember, Neo can block bullets, but for some reason (since it's a part of 'the system'), not a sword.

Neo#2 aka Ichigo wins.

[Delaguardia]

Ya but ichigo can be full of himself at times. I think it would be a tie. There both evenly matched

[Decado]

I really don't see Neo blocking a Getsuga Tenshou while Ichigo's in Vaizard bankai mode.

[TargaryenX]

So...what happened to this? anime-kraze hasn't put out a new sub in almost two weeks. Did the anime not air this week or something?

[Cassie]

So...what happened to this? anime-kraze hasn't put out a new sub in almost two weeks. Did the anime not air this week or something?

probably just some lag with the subbing.

the raw was out on the 5th, so the anime did air this week.

[Kenta]

we can't complain since it was licensed anyway. anime-kraze is being faithful to the fans already for not dropping it.

[Kentaro]

I don't have a preference really though if anything I lean more to the female side, because as someone said earlier the male characters in more than a few animes have no balls which irritates me >.<

Though I can understand the reasons for this, one is the fact that without it their plot would be different, and two is because its not something commonly seen in real life.

[Lex]

Male...can't tell you why though...even in all my books they 'hero' or main character is a male...maybe it's because I'm chick *Shrug*

[Kentaro]

Hmm I don't know- in the matrix they slowed things down such as bullets for us to see them moving yet Neo still was moving pretty normally. So I might say their speed is about the same but I think Ichigo would win due to his experience with the sword while Neo is used to guns and hand to hand combat, but I don't think he would be able to counter Ichigo's Zangetsu considering its size.

I think Ichigo would win- he's more suited for close combat and general rapeage than Neo is

[salkcin89]

Well I don't really know if that will great because I never have played the game before but one of my friend and other poeple that I know said the game was good and they think that it might be a great if they could make it to an anime.

So what do you think?

[db]

No, anime based on games are doomed to failure and the plot is already well known. Look at the FF movies, lol.

[Kyoko<3!]

Well I know there's already a manga on KH. Why do you need an anime? You've got the game and the manga. Motion, and still frames.

Besides, KH carries it's story fine with the gameplay. You don't need to watch Sora killing heartless. An anime wouldn't make the story any better, it'd be the same thing, just without all the random fights and lvling up.

[Samanosuke]

An Anime with Disney Characters? Hell nope ;D

[db]

Well I know there's already a manga on KH. Why do you need an anime? You've got the game and the manga. Motion, and still frames.
Besides, KH carries it's story fine with the gameplay. You don't need to watch Sora killing heartless. An anime wouldn't make the story any better, it'd be the same thing, just without all the random fights and lvling up.

Exactly, now if it was like a side story, or something, maybe.

[wr80]

Actually it be pretty nice, it would make a great story, and they could add on to it

[XeroRecoil]

I don't really care as long as the show is good.

[Cassie]

well, episode 9 is out :P

[kenicchi]

sweet, finally found out what happened to Laboon's nakama

[Bak3d on H1gh]

as if they heard you

[SWolf-kun]

I don't have a preference because it just depends if it's fit for the gender for that Anime.

[M_Ghey]

no preference for me.

[\/AiZARD]

I would say male because he usually gets the girls.

[Terra]

No preference. As long as the character is likeable I don't care which gender.

[Infinite]

It depends on what kind of anime it is, but generally, I have no preference, really.

[Kuroi Getsuga Tenshou]

Yohohohoho

[db]

Anyone else is going? I might go depending on the situation :O

[Aizen_sama]

Nah, wouldn't be good. Just play the game, it close to watching anime.

[Aizen_sama]

I like the name Light more. Its more easier.

[Infinite]

An Anime with Disney Characters? Hell nope ;D

Yeah, that would be kind of odd. :/

[Miyagi Rikku]

wow such thread exist? -.- XD rofl. Kira is easiest thats it

[Jay3205]

The correct name is Light. If you like to say "raito", then you might as well say "eru" instead of "L", but it doesn't make much sense if you're speaking English.

[L'Arc Enzeru]

Kagutsuchi ! It's so cool, and freakin' strong !!! i like fire element too

[Lirion]

Inside the Matrix I think Neo would win. He can dodge and stop bullets so he's pretty much as fast as Ichigo and Neo have more experience than Ichigo since all he have to do is download it to his brain so a sword isn't really going to give Ichigo any advantage. And hand to hand combat? Well check The Matrix Reloaded and you'll see what Neo can do without a weapon, doubt it would work against Ichigo but even Neo have stoped a sword with his hand.

[Lirion]

I say Virgil, anyone that haven't played against Virgil in DMC3 on the harder dificulties shouldn't really say anything about who would win.
Virgil is fast, his sword cuts through most things, he can combo all his weapons in to one attack. Like kicking up the enemy, teleport up and slash with his swords, teleport down and fire summoned swords on the enemy still in the air, teleport up and slam him down with the sword. Not to mention that attack where he leaves the screen and I don't know how many slashes he does in the air.

Not saying that Grimmjow would be owned, he would give Virgil a fight but I think Virgil will win in the end.

[Mikado]

Raito sounds cooler.
^ I call L "eru" o.o;

[Saiyuri]

My favourite is Kagutsuchi ... so kawaii *__*

[Guy]

Final form Ishida? Wow, Ishida wins. Sasuke will get uberly pwn. Ishida's pure speed will make Sasuke dizzy, and one arrow shot will rip Sasuke in half.

[Polygon]

Sasuke doesn't stand a chance.

[tears_of_blood]

What do you think the dragon of cold or the dragon of darkness? Of course my moneys on Hiei mostly due to the coolness factor but Id think a demon vs. a shinigami is an interesting enough fight in itself.

[Undying]

/moved to anime arena

I bet my money on Hitsugaya.

I like ice manipulation better than the weird shit Hiei pulls out of his ass. And besides, when I compare the two, Hitsugaya's white hair and shitty attitude is actually better than Hiei's idiocy.

[Nood]

I'd prefer Hiei :P

Also, Hiei's attack is fire, but since Hiei is some icy demon (I watched hungarian dub) by nature, he should be good dealing with ice. (he sucks at fire but hes still definetly stronger then Hitsugaya, ehehe)

[.Rik-uh-shey]

Hiei would own Hitsugaya. hes just too fast for him. He would just appear behind Hitsugaya and before Hitsu would realize it his head would be chopped off.

[.Rik-uh-shey]

Rofl. Fantastic four would destroy them in 3 seconds flat. I mean they're freaking turtles!! i mean only the guys with blunt weapons actually use them! the guy with the swords and the guy with the daggers just block.

[Silhouette]

Hiei is definately Mid-tier Captain level at least. Fire > Ice btw, especially living black demon fire. Hiei is also not only faster, but he can definately take more damage than Hits can.

Not to mention the years of experience fighting people his strength and higher. Hitsugaya would put up a good fight I guess, but he'd end up losing.

@13: Not so. I thought that too, except that tactic was used on him by that Arrancar. The one with the Chinese name... which I always forget. >.>

[Starlight]

Shawlong? And I go with Hiei. He's has perfected his skills while Hits still has a way to go with his.

[Michael]

Mai always become my favourite

[a sexy penguin]

very sad news kuro-hana as well as other subbing groups have received C&D (Cease and Desist) letter from viz media to stop distributing death note episodes
Sad news to inform all off our watchers for Death Note.
We have just received a C&D(Cease and Desist) from VIZ Media stating for us to stop all distribution of Death Note by 22nd June 2007.
(This letter has also been served to Animanda, c1anime? & Several Death Note fan sites.)
As most of you know we have been subbing Death Note since it got licensed back at episode 12, starting from ANFS and working our way to Kuro-Hana.
We have decided to stop subbing/distributing Death Note by the 22nd of June.
Death Note 36/37 MIGHT be done by us, depending on how we go about this, if not, expect to see another group rise up.cross your fingers

[Donut]

LOL

Who cares, there's like two episodes left :P

[Kenta]

they might release the last 2, or they can form a new group and work on the last episode. it did explicitly say only kuro-hana et al have to stop right? didn't mention the possibility of any emergent groups.

[Klavier Gavin]

This shouldn't really be coming out of a Hitsugaya fan but Hiei will own Hitsugaya pretty badly. After absorbing dragon of the darkness flame, Hiei is pretty much invincible. I don't think Hitsugaya would be able to break that defense. Hiei seems a lot faster than Hitsugaya as well.

[shaberry]

Hmmm...dunno...posted the thread seeing if anyone else was going...but there's not much of a response -.-;;; *sigh* But I'll be going for sure! =) And I know sky is going for sure too...since she's on the staff. ^-^

[Miyagi Rikku]

:P db-chan; if I go will you go XD jk /o\ you owe me in n out

[salkcin89]

is there anyone that watch this anime? I thinks it's very good anime

[Tyekanik]

Romance? Fighting? Comedy? Good animation?

At work and lazy so I can't do a quick download

[db]

I dont owe you in n out :O

[Miyagi Rikku]

>.> lies of course you do

[salkcin89]

well it's comedy, horro, shounen and supernatural..I think the animation is quite good

[Tyekanik]

I shall give it a shot then, was looking for something else to watch

[Arei]

I'm sure some VIZ asshole will be lurking around for releases, but I think at this point, with only 2 episodes left, its really retarded to just NOW be doing this. I mean seriously, since episode 12 this show has been licensed, why do they wait till episode 35 to do this?

Until the release of the DVD, they really should only stop distributing season 1. Its going to take them nearly a year to get to season 2 unless they release a DVD every 2 months, or longer if they release like 4 DVDs a year like some do XP Also these are FREE fansubs, they aren't selling them. This really should only be a season 1 ban, especially since they DO have the first episodes subtitled on their site (you have to BUY them however >.>) I'm sure they just don't want competition for the subs they're selling online.... But all of the hardcore DN fans have already seen them, so its way way waaayyy too late for that :3

[Miyagi Rikku]

Gosh, they should just finish the last 2 episodes ~_~:

[salkcin89]

if you want know the story here is the plot from anime news network:

Since Hiro Hiyorimi's parents died, he and his sister Sawawa have lived apart. Now, Sawawa has gotten a new job as the caretaker of a creepy old mansion, and has sent Hiro a letter asking him to come and stay there with her. Finding the mansion boarded up and apparently empty, Hiro wanders around town looking for Sawawa. Instead, he runs into the new resident of the mansion, and ends up pushing her out of the way of some falling steel beams. Unfortunately, he loses his own life in the process. Luckily, or perhaps unluckily, the person he thought he saved turns out to be the princess of the monsters, and she grants him a second life...but only for as long as he will be her servant.

[Nood]

Why nobody uses Righto :O
All the engrish threads this week :)

[Chrono Detector]

Stupid American licensers, they think they are so good. Well, nobody likes a dubbed edited version, so screw them, idiots.

[FreedoM]

they might release the last 2, or they can form a new group and work on the last episode. it did explicitly say only kuro-hana et al have to stop right? didn't mention the possibility of any emergent groups.
Animanda has stop as well since they got the Viz Media before Kuro Hana did.

[Nood]

Merged with the Bad news thread.

[L]

There's always Stormberry...wait, what the hell am I saying? And I agree, they should have put the ban on season one rather than the whole series.

[M_Ghey]

animanda and Kuro-Hana are done....all that's left is Stormberry...
NOOOOO!!!

damn VIZ Media, why would they do this with 2 episodes left...

[tempest24]

damn i've always relayed on kuro-hana...... wat am i to do? join the team to translate?????

maybe not too busy at work..... sorry

[Nood]

Also, Hiei is simply a whole lot cooler, despite Hitsugaya being the ice user...

(Thou, I guess Hiei was born cool...)

[shaberry]

Ahhhhhhhhhh >.<;;; So who else is going? *pout* And mommy are you going to the expo?

[shaberry]

An Anime with Disney Characters? Hell nope ;D

I was about to say yes...until I read this comment.

[Bak3d on H1gh]

aaah the 'ol slave trick.

anyways were do u find this anime? I'm not eeing it on animeyume, did it just come out or something?

[salkcin89]

you can find the anime at animesuki.com but name is not princess resurrection it is Kaibutsu Oujo

[Tyekanik]

I managed to watch a few episodes after work yesterday, this show is great thanks for the heads up on it. I was wanting to see another anime with saber from FSN's voice actress, just one of those voices I like listening to.

[WhyteDragon]

I don't know.... it would be very weird. I mean the Manga didn't come till after the game... so I don't think it would go over that well. I know people would still watch it, but I dont think it would get beyond a first season. I haven't even looked at the manga. I'm just more interested in the next game.... *drools* that looks sweet.

[salkcin89]

no problem i'm glad that you like this anime... I hope there will be more people that like to watch princess resurrection

[SunnyPie♥]

Noes~ D:

[Miyagi Rikku]

Whenever I read 'stormberry' in this thread... it gives me the chills >.> and yet
it gave me chills just now. >.>

[Emperor Knives]

They also stopped uploading DN episodes on Crunchyroll (the site where I watch DN) because of VIZ. It doesn't make sense since part of Bleach was supposedly licensed by VIZ too. And how can they license 2 episodes that haven't even been aired!? Oh well I guess we're stuck with Stormberry for the finale. This sucks but its better than nothing.

[Kenta]

well, i don't know technically how it works. but if we use softsub, they can just distribute the ssa and we can apply them to the raw (which should be legal)?

[phantom_ko]

I saw this thread a couple of times before but I was too lazy to post. :Haha Hum...lets see, whatever the name of the child of Natsuki's is.

[woody0]

Iv'e never heard of this before so im checking it out but i can't find the first episode anywhere, can anyone give me a link?

[Pie <3]

I've never heard of the subbing group "stormberry".
What's so bad about them?

[Shinomori]

Whoa.

Children.

Let's keep the anger to a minimum here, ok?

Even though I don't think they're at all similar (not to mention I have a loathing of Death Note counteracted somehow by the fact that I continue to watch it), everyone's allowed to have their own opinions.

[diamondedge]

The story, the point of the story, the timing, the conversations, interactions, everything is different. The concept of the shinigami is the same, but the shinigmi themselves differ from Bleach ones A LOT. Oh, and Death Note is MUCH MUCH better. :)

[DatLatina!]

there is no similarity between them even if they both hav shinigamis its still dif. so that is my opinion

[Arei]

O_O

Its a streaming website like youtube. The quality of their subs aren't the hottest in the world, no where near Kuro-Hana.


Hopefully they'll be faithful to the manga, or atleast enough that if you read the manga you won't need subs to know what they're talking about.

Also are some of the RAW sites gonna keep releasing the last 2?

[Esca]

I think they're still releasing Death Note [Kuro-Hana] but it may take longer to due... whatever's going on.

[DevilMacCry]

http://www.realitylapse.com/videos/maihime.php i dont thinj i must somethink explain.

[Kuroi Getsuga Tenshou]

Lucci just has that Cold attitude and he looks a bit...maffioso

[Kuroi Getsuga Tenshou]

Zoro

[EndlessSky]

Viz-media is just being a ***** to them, the anime series is almost over anyway, so it really doesn't matter.

[nx6]

I've never heard of the subbing group "stormberry".
What's so bad about them?
I was actually going to ask the same thing. I didn't start watching the anime till the beginning of this month, so I've only seen the Animanda releases (I'm doing one episode per day). I hope some of the other groups do slightly larger subs, we don't all have 24" widescreen monitors. :rolleye09

[L]

Here's their Death Note page: http://www.stormberry.tv/watchTV.php?pl=deathnote

[Arei]

we don't all have 24" widescreen monitors. :rolleye09

I do :rolleye09

hehehehehehehehe :redbiggri





I seriously do hope the raws are out >.< I wont be able to get home till the 26th...

[nx6]

Hey everyone, for background sake, I'll tell you that I have read the manga and I'm watching the anime, but I'm not up to the current episode yet.

Anyway, my sister is watching Death Note, too. But because we have different schedules, I'm the one with the files, ect. She's not watching on the computer, I'm burning Death Note to DVD and she's watching it in the living room when she has free time.

Up to this point, I've been doing 4 episodes per disc, but I just finished watching episode 20 (where I am in the series) and they have that new OP and ED. Episode 20 is supposed to be the last episode I burn to DVD #5, but since the OP and ED changed I'm thinking of pushing it to disc #6 instead. Was Ep. 19 the end of the first season or something?

Part of the reason I'm thinking of making this change is I'm aware I'm going to have only one episode on the last DVD at this rate (which is dumb) and I want to prevent that.

But now I'm looking over the way the rest of the series falls on Wikipedia and I realize that it might be better to stay with how it is. That way, Light recovering the Death Note happens at the end of disc 6 instead of the middle.

I'm just writing to get people's opinions on the best way to devide this up. This was just supposed to be burning discs so they could be played on the DVD player, but doing a menu screen... and its just gotten fancier since then. So I guess I'm aiming to make the presentation rather thought out now.

[FullMetal Rebel]

Grimmjaw would win this pretty easily. He could just fly and continously cero Vergil to death. Also, Vergil's actual resistance to damage is the same as a normal human (i.e. he's cut just as easily as a normal person). It would be fairly easy to lop off an arm.
Vergil, if he continued to get stronger through all the games like Dante, would probably win due to cheap techniques like doppelganger, slowing down time, and invincible "super devil trigger". However, even with Angelo power he is no match.

I'm sorta late on the response anyway here I go:

His resistance to pain is FAR above a normal humans,higher than Grimmjaw's as a matter of fact.Proof:In the DMC manga Vergil as a child is impaled by ten or so spears.Or you can look at Dante for more proof on that.

If Grimmjaw tried to fly Vergil could easily go Nelo Angelo to catch him,and crossing swords with Nelo Angelo is like asking for your own death.

Grimmjaw wouldn't get anywhere near lopping Vergil's arm off.Vergil's swords skills are too much for Grimmjaw's,whose blade is nothing but a simple sword,Vergil has Yamato.Anybody that can catch bullets with his Katana and lay them out in a row on the floor,is pretty badass.

[nx6]

Here's their Death Note page: http://www.stormberry.tv/watchTV.php?pl=deathnote
Thanks, that was... bad.

I also checked out Kuro-Hana's sub tonight. The subs are easier to read, but the video quality isn't nearly as good as Animanda, I'm going to stick with them for as long as I can.

I wonder if I should finish downloading the rest of the episodes now given that cease and desist letters are going out instead of downloading just the episode I'm on.

[Toutaku Chuuei]

sasuke is F***ed after 3 seconds if that long.

[II Xion II]

As long as it's readable and not in RMVB, I am happy.

Although I would always prefer a better sub to a worse one, and of course .MKV or .OGM releases are a plus! :)

[nx6]

Ah! I can't find any Animanda episodes after 31! Did they stop at that point or are they really just that slow?

[T_Ichigo]

"Shinigami" is just the japanese word for "death god" which in these two series, Death note and Bleach hhas two meanings. Don't exactly know what death gods in Death note do, I'm just at episode 18 lol, but as far as I can see, they follow the owner of death note :S, and death gods in Bleach serve to balance the souls in the material world.
ACtaully I would say as same as the members above, it's completely different.

[Midare]

Well... of course, the single similarity is the use of "shinigami" but, about the shinigami concept, the true meaning of these "protective spirits" is more "real" (talking abaout religious beliefs, of course) in Bleach because, in Death Note, it seems that those shinigami that live in the other world are quite bored and with nothing else to do but gambling... Beyond that, Bleach and Death Note are 2 opposites sides.
The animation, the style (while Bleach is mostly more colorfull, Death Note is quite "dark")... and abaout the story... maybe I'll say something that will annoy people, so I'm sorry is this happens... But while Bleach has a plot for all people, Death Note is way more complex, maybe more "adult"... I can't help but think in something as complex as "Shin Seiki Evangelion"...
Of course, I love Bleach and Death Note, both... I'm 24 years old (and old-lady already :P) and enjoy them the same beyond the complexity of their plots.

Well, that was my opinion, I hope I didn't annoyed someone :biggrinlo

[Jay3205]

I'm sorta late on the response anyway here I go:

His resistance to pain is FAR above a normal humans,higher than Grimmjaw's as a matter of fact.Proof:In the DMC manga Vergil as a child is impaled by ten or so spears.Or you can look at Dante for more proof on that.Vergil's resistance to pain is high, and so is his resistance to death. However, his actual resistance to damage is not very high. He is cut by swords just as easily as normal people are and injured by guns. If Grimmjaw decides to chop off an arm, Vergil may not hurt much, but he'd be disabled nonetheless. Meanwhile, Grimmjaw is confirmed to have a much higher physical resistance to suffering any damage, via iron skin. He can block sword strikes from Ichigo... the same Ichigo who easily blocks punches that cause craters in the ground.

If Grimmjaw tried to fly Vergil could easily go Nelo Angelo to catch him,and crossing swords with Nelo Angelo is like asking for your own death.Nelo wouldn't catch Grimmjaw. Grimmjaw's speed is far too great. Nelo gets hit by a guy who swings a sword at slightly above human speeds. Grimmjaw can dodge attacks before Ichigo can even can swing his sword, and we know Ichigo's speed is far higher than Dante's. Aside from teleportation, Nelo's movement speed is pretty slow.

Grimmjaw wouldn't get anywhere near lopping Vergil's arm off.Vergil's swords skills are too much for Grimmjaw's,whose blade is nothing but a simple sword,Vergil has Yamato.Anybody that can catch bullets with his Katana and lay them out in a row on the floor,is pretty badass.How are Vergil's sword skills "too much" for Grimmjaw? His only sword "skill" is swinging his sword really fast. Of course, after a short fight with Dante, his stamina degrades so far that even a weakling can catch his strikes bare handed. Also, Yamato is just a "simple sword" as well... it doesn't make him fight better.

To put it in perspective, all of Vergil's "stats" are the same as Dante except choice of weapon. After the fight with Beowulf, Dante is noticably winded and manages to "win" by cutting Beowulf's eye. Beowulf, who is serious and trying to kill Dante, lands a direct punch on Dante causing a bit less damage than what Grimmjaw (unserious and having fun) did to Ichigo from far in the air. In terms of fighting capability, Grimmjaw (unserious, no weapon) >= Beowulf >= Dante = Vergil. Grimmjaw serious, using sword, or released would be 5-10x more powerful... certainly more than the upgrade Devil Trigger gives.

[L]

Animanda has also received a C&D from Viz.

As mentioned already, Viz has sent us a C&D and requested we cease distribution of Death note. As of today, all Death note torrents hosted on the Animanda tracker has been removed as requested.

We will no longer be subbing Death Note as one of our projects. Thanks for staying with us up till now and let's all look forward to our new projects we'll be picking up instead ^__^

Hope you'll continue us to support us on our new projects and enjoy them as much as you enjoyed Death note~


(sidenote: if anyone representing Viz reads this post http://www.animanda.net/fusionnews/smillies/bigsmile.gif. Could I be cheeky and request speedier releases of the manga Vampire Knights? Thankies ^___^

[Pookie99]

can somebody tell me a good place to watch/dl the deathnote anime...?
veoh doesn't have all of them....>.<

[Angel_shikigami]

The english manga, the anime, and the movie call him Light. Only the japanese manga calls him Raito. It's three to one, so I'm calling him Light. Plus, Light is easier to say than Raito.

[FullMetal Rebel]

^^^^^^^^^
I don't believe you understood what I meant by Yamato not just being a simple sword,like Grimmjaw's.What is more better a trash zanpaktou(arrancar zanpaktous are quite useless)or a sword of great power?(Inuyasha is a perfect example of this,actually Inuyasha and DMC have striking similarities.)Yamato is more than JUST a katana.It will cut through anything(so much for the skin) and is a demon sword from Sparda.(Again look at Inuyasha strong ass swords from their fathers).Grimmjaw will not be blocking Yamato.


I'm betting that Beowulf's fist are are FAR beyond what Grimmjaw could dream of doing.And that direct hit from Beowulf is a perfect example of having better stamina than Grimmjaw as Beowulf is F'ing strong,But yet Dante wasn't even hurt a little bit from that.If that was Grimmjaw he would have been a pancake.


Dante,winded?I don't think so,it is a "Trend" so to speak for DMC character's to not take bosses seriously at all.
And yes Nelo Angelo would catch Grimmjaw as if you played as him in DMC 3:SE you will know that is able to teleport/shunpo just like Vergil.And if you know Nelo Angelo at all you will know that he his built in armor,also that big ass sword that leaves trails of violet flames wherever he slashes,also that sword is as big as Grimmjaw.(Basically a clone of Soul Caliber's Nightmare.)


Release?Grimmjaw's release wouldn't mean much if Vergil has two powerups to begin with.One which:Increases his fighting ability GREATLY,and second which: Does much of the first one much Greater,PLUS the Armour and that sword to to deal with.Judging from a Release it is nothing more than something to make a arrancar look Demonic/true hollow form.Mind you that anything of that matter is Vergil and Dante's specialty.Whopping Demon/hollow/monster ass.(again Inuyasha)

[Angel_shikigami]

Here's my top three:
1. Light for his smexy-ness and Kira-ness
2. Misa just cause shes aborible and stupid acting
3. L because the way he holds a cell phone just pain rocks (Why? Idk)

[Angel_shikigami]

Near because Mello just looks creepy to me and scares the shit out of me

[SunnyPie♥]

Matt is second place... T^T Wah~

[nx6]

Animanda has also received a C&D from Viz.

Yeah, but that was only a couple days ago. Episode 31 came out a month ago.

[L]

They are taking down their torret tracker, so any torrent that links to its tracker is removed. The only way to get them now is to find user uploads on MU, SS, etc.

[silverwolf801]

hahahahaha too bad death note fans. I never watched or read the series anyway

[Kenta]

ep 10 and 11

http://www.anime-kraze.org/torrent/%5BA-Kraze%5D_Seirei_no_Moribito_-_10_%5B2F5AEA97%5D.mkv.torrent

http://www.anime-kraze.org/torrent/%5BA-Kraze%5D_Seirei_no_Moribito_-_11_%5BFB4CB2C9%5D.mkv.torrent

[Outlawz]

Near's a wanna be "L" douchebag, at least Mello had a different personality, to bad it isn't Near who burns to death.

[Edgey]

Hmm, not sure about this, if it didn't have Disney characters in it then it would be OK, but still I wouldn't watch it, I have the game.

[Setsuna Ai]

If it focused on the main storyline..ah that would be boring since we already played the game... it'll be like watching sora kick heartless ass without you doing any of the moves. BUT if they made an anime that's kind of like a spin-off of the plot, like..let's say they made an anime about Organization XIII, then heck yes ^^

[Edgey]

If it focused on the main storyline..ah that would be boring since we already played the game... it'll be like watching sora kick heartless ass without you doing any of the moves. BUT if they made an anime that's kind of like a spin-off of the plot, like..let's say they made an anime about Organization XIII, then heck yes ^^
Or like a little mini-series to link together KHII and the new game???

[Tobi]

hahahahaha too bad death note fans. I never watched or read the series anyway

Umm, troll?

I wonder how well Stormberry will do the last 2 T_T

[II Xion II]

I guess it could be a lot worse. We could have no subs at all.

That would really suck, especially with only two more episodes to go.

Seriously, how can they drop an anime with only two episodes left? They must have gotten really unlucky then. :(

[\/AiZARD]

Nah not a series it would be to boring maybe like a short movie based Kingdomhearts 1,2,3

[Setsuna Ai]

Or like a little mini-series to link together KHII and the new game???
yeah they should release both at the same time.. ^^. Or at least the series a little bit before the game to promote the game ^^.

I just hope they don't make a Kh version of FF unlimited... god that sucked!

[DatLatina!]

Here's my top three:
1. Light for his smexy-ness and Kira-ness
3. L because the way he holds a cell phone just pain rocks (Why? Idk)
haha that's what I was just thinking right now but I haven't been able to watch DN in a while because I got bored with it but I should start watching it again give it another chance

[DatLatina!]

what's funny though is that in DN and Bleach is that Bleach kills monsters and DN kills people for no apparent reason what so ever in my thought.

[nx6]

I don't believe they'll drop it. With only two episodes left, they may reform under a different name or not put their name on it at all. But the releases will happen and circulate through bittorrent like they have before.

[Lirion]

This is a Bleach forum, some people here will have a hard time accepting that there are other characters out there than can kill espadas.
Btw, good post Fullmetal.

[Lirion]

Ishida could own Sauske in his normal form, the Quincy Final Form would obliterate poor Sauske.

[Toasty]

Sorry, Mello is more like L than Near is...

...and honestly, I've NEVER liked Near in the manga or anime. blegh.

[Jay3205]

I don't believe you understood what I meant by Yamato not just being a simple sword,like Grimmjaw's.What is more better a trash zanpaktou(arrancar zanpaktous are quite useless)or a sword of great power?(Inuyasha is a perfect example of this,actually Inuyasha and DMC have striking similarities.)Yamato is more than JUST a katana.It will cut through anything(so much for the skin) and is a demon sword from Sparda.(Again look at Inuyasha strong ass swords from their fathers).Grimmjaw will not be blocking Yamato.Funny... I don't remember Yamato doing anything great. You say it can cut through anything, but there's no proof it will. From the way Vergil uses it, it is just a normal sword.

I'm betting that Beowulf's fist are are FAR beyond what Grimmjaw could dream of doing.And that direct hit from Beowulf is a perfect example of having better stamina than Grimmjaw as Beowulf is F'ing strong,But yet Dante wasn't even hurt a little bit from that.If that was Grimmjaw he would have been a pancake. If that was Grimmjaw, he wouldn't be hurt. Ichigo was only minimally injured, and his physical defense is far less than Grimmjaw's. Beowulf's gloves may be stronger than Grimmjaw's nonserious, unreleased strength, but it is still far FAR too slow to ever land a hit. Being able to be smashed into the ground without injury doesn't matter, since Grimmjaw could just take out a sword and chop Vergil in half. Vergil's stamina is low.... he gets dramatically weaker after fighting for a very short period of time. The clown, who acknowledged being far weaker than Vergil, was able to catch the "cut-through-anything" Yamato and smack around Vergil... even though Vergil did only a short fight with Dante.

Dante,winded?I don't think so,it is a "Trend" so to speak for DMC character's to not take bosses seriously at all.
And yes Nelo Angelo would catch Grimmjaw as if you played as him in DMC 3:SE you will know that is able to teleport/shunpo just like Vergil.And if you know Nelo Angelo at all you will know that he his built in armor,also that big ass sword that leaves trails of violet flames wherever he slashes,also that sword is as big as Grimmjaw.(Basically a clone of Soul Caliber's Nightmare.)Dante was winded. You can plainly see it in the video he is gasping for air right before Beowulf smacked him. If Beowulf's eye wasn't cut out, he probably would've beat Dante... who is equal to Vergil.

Secondly, Nelo Angelo can not shunpo around like normal Vergil. His best movement is teleportation, and he can't even do that in rapid succession. Nelo doesn't have the same skill set as normal Vergil. You can't argue like Nelo Angelo can "shunpo", swing that giant sword at the same speed as a katana, fly around, use Yamato, and use Beowulf at the same time. Nelo has his abilities... Vergil has his; they are separate... Nelo-armor is not the "devil trigger" form of Verigl.

Finally, "shunpo" is just a gameplay mechanism... they never move anywhere near that speed in any video where they are fighting, and later incarnations of the stronger Dante/Vergil (i.e. DMC 1) don't have that ability. The videos show what actually happens (i.e. you "beat" Vergil in gameplay but the video still shows him utterly defeating Dante). If you assume Vergil has his gameplay powers, then Grimmjaw also has his (i.e. specials that guarantee a hit if the initial attack is successful)...

Release?Grimmjaw's release wouldn't mean much if Vergil has two powerups to begin with.One which:Increases his fighting ability GREATLY,and second which: Does much of the first one much Greater,PLUS the Armour and that sword to to deal with.Judging from a Release it is nothing more than something to make a arrancar look Demonic/true hollow form.Mind you that anything of that matter is Vergil and Dante's specialty.Whopping Demon/hollow/monster ass.(again Inuyasha)Firstly, I have no idea of what two "powerups" Vergil has. He has "Nelo Angelo" armor, and that's it. He doesn't have some type of simultaneous Nelo-armor + devil trigger. Also, an arrancar's release increases their power similar to bankai. This explains why an arrancar release can be matched by a bankai, so we know it's 5-10x stronger than base. In DMC, there is no video demonstration about their power increase, but there's nothing hinting that it's 5-10x stronger. If you go by the only evidence, gameplay, then Devil Trigger enhances all stats from a range of 1.5-3.0x and can't be permanently maintained.

Bankai Ichigo launches getsu tenshou at Grimmjaw, and that at least has the power of a grenade or greater. Grimmjaw is only minimally injured, mostly due to not blocking with his sword and being surprised. He also notes that his released form wouldn't be injured at all. Normal Vergil is hurt by normal swords, scythes, blades, and bullets. Even Nelo is hurt by grenades. This proves Grimmjaw's defense > Nelo's defense >>> Vergil's defense.

As for speed, Vergil's highest shown slash speed is circular to block 5-6 bullets. Dante can use the "million" stab, which is 5-30 stabs in rapid succession. Their movement speed is above human, but not shunpo (excluding gameplay mechanisms like "shunpo", being able to block everything, etc.). Grimmjaw is faster than bankai Ichigo, who can literally do thousands-millions of slashes in a few seconds and can move fast enough to appear multiple places at once (something even gameplay Dante/Vergil can't do). This shows Grimmjaw's attack & movement speed >> Vergil > Nelo. The fight is far in Grimmjaw's favor.

I've backed up my claims with actual examples and comparisons. You should do the same and leave out comments like "Yamato can cut through anything!".

[FullMetal Rebel]

^^^^^^^^^
Har,Har,Har!Yamato can't cut through anything?http://devils-lair.org/dmc3weapons.php
This is pretty evident as whenever he slashed his sword it went through it's target.

Grimmjow able to slash Vergil in half,whenever he wanted to?Don't think so if you have fought Vergil in DMD mode you shouldn't be talking about his sword skills.Vergil's stamina low after fighting for a short period of time?Ok for 1 that fight wasn't a short period of time,2nd that was Dante he was fighting,3rd Jester/Arkham is pretty fast and is a Demon himself,so he is no pushover.

Again,Dante wasn't about to lose to Beowulf as he gets up after his attack like it was nothing.Your forgetting something,Dante is half demon,he just ain't any human.Dante and Vergil have a high regeneration,as a result of being half demon/Sparda.

Nelo Angelo can't shunpo around like Vergil?Nelo Angelo is obviously able to as he does in DMC1 and DMC3:SE.Nelo Angelo is able to do it in rapid succession as he is playable in DMC3:SE.Game play powers are able here as Vergil is a GAME character,Grimmjow is an SHONEN character."Vergil is only able to do what he does in the cutscenes."This is so ironic.this is like saying Grimmjow is only able to do what he does in Bleach Heat The Soul 4.Grimmjow is made to act on scenes,Vergil is made to act in gameplay.

Vergil's two powerups are DT and Nelo Angelo obviously."DT can't be permantly maintained"True,but Nelo Angelo is a unlimited Devil Trigger so to speak.

"Dante and Vergil hurt are by normal scythes".Every Devil May Cry fan would laugh their ass of at that.Look at the first scene in the 3rd game buddy.Dante and Vergil isn't hurt are by normal bullets dante got shot in the head and spat the bullet out.Dante and Vergil aren't hurt by Grenades in no shape or form.Lady used those and they didn't have much effect on Dante did they?So that proves nothing about this made up:This proves Grimmjaw's defense > Nelo's defense >>> Vergil.They're Half Demons and sons of Sparda you have no proof that Grimmjow's defense is higher.


I have backed up my comparisons.You should leave out the mockings as my comments have stayed true to this debate.I believe you should actually do research on this series as your knowledge is lacking on Devil May Cry.

[Jay3205]

Har,Har,Har!Yamato can't cut through anything?http://devils-lair.org/dmc3weapons.php
This is pretty evident as whenever he slashed his sword it went through it's target.It's obviously wrong, as there are multiple times when it did NOT cut through the target. It can't cut through Dante's sword. It can't cut through Jester's hand. It can't even cut through Lady's gun...

Grimmjow able to slash Vergil in half,whenever he wanted to?Don't think so if you have fought Vergil in DMD mode you shouldn't be talking about his sword skills.Vergil's stamina low after fighting for a short period of time?Ok for 1 that fight wasn't a short period of time,2nd that was Dante he was fighting,3rd Jester/Arkham is pretty fast and is a Demon himself,so he is no pushover.The game mode doesn't do anything Vergil's sword skills. He perhaps gains a few new attacks, but his skill is still the same. Either way, a video game mode doesn't determine his skill, cutscenes do.

Secondly, the fight was short. Him and Dante were fighting evenly, and the fight only lasted till a little bit... until blood got on the floor.

Also, "he was fighting Dante" is not a valid argument because that assumes that Dante is somehow much stronger than Grimmjaw, which is what you're trying prove... therefore you can't argue with that assumption. All we know is that he was fighting against an equal opponent, and he became tired very fast. Every character in Bleach can fight against an equal opponent for a long time and not suffer a major degrade in power. Ichigo, even after the severe beating from Grimmjaw, would still be able to own bankai Renji, and Ichigo was in much worse condition than Vergil was when Jester beat him.

Finally, Jester is a weakling. He even admitted that Vergil's normal strength would allow him to win fairly easily. Therefore, after a short fight with Dante, Vergil's stamina/speed/strength degraded from "able to own Jester" to "being owned by Jester". Grimmjaw, after nearly being killed, could still own bankai Ichigo. Vergil, who could still stand and had few visible injuries, was owned by a weakling.

Nelo Angelo can't shunpo around like Vergil?Nelo Angelo is obviously able to as he does in DMC1 and DMC3:SE.Nelo Angelo is able to do it in rapid succession as he is playable in DMC3:SE.Game play powers are able here as Vergil is a GAME character,Grimmjow is an SHONEN character."Vergil is only able to do what he does in the cutscenes."This is so ironic.this is like saying Grimmjow is only able to do what he does in Bleach Heat The Soul 4.Grimmjow is made to act on scenes,Vergil is made to act in gameplay.Nelo can't shunpo... he doesn't do it in DMC1, and he only does it in DMC3 because he's a special unlockable. Special unlockables, cheat codes, and other similar "cheats" are not valid arguments. You might as well argue Dante could beat every Bleach character combined cause we could just use gameshark codes.

Vergil is a GAME character, but his strength and speed are displayed within CUTSCENES that define the STORY. Hence, within the context of the story, he is not as powerful as what the gameplay mechanics allow. For instance, Dante = Vergil in all stats. Hence, during gameplay, if Vergil can kill you in 8-9 hits, you should be able to kill him in 8-9 hits... which is FAR from accurate. This is because the aspects used to make good gameplay does not reflect what the actual story abilities/strength is. When the game has an actual storyline that shows the character's strength, the storyline takes precedence. In the story, Vergil can't teleport, "shunpo", or even fly.

For another simpler example, Cloud from Final Fantasy 7 is a game character. In gameplay, he can take bullet wounds with 0 damage at level 99 and can take asteroids hitting him from space. However, storywise he is still killable by gunshots. Under your logic, we should just ignore his storyline strength, which is what you're doing for Vergil. STORY > gameplay because STORY is what is really happening.

Vergil's two powerups are DT and Nelo Angelo obviously."DT can't be permantly maintained"True,but Nelo Angelo is a unlimited Devil Trigger so to speak.Vergil can't DT and use Nelo Angelo armor at the same time. Nelo is not just a set of armor...Nelo is a transformed form of Vergil, hence technically that IS his "devil trigger". He can't use them simultaneously since they're the same thing. Besides, he never does it at any point in the story, so you can't argue as though he can.

"Dante and Vergil hurt by normal scythes".Every Devil May Cry fan would laugh their ass of at that.Look at the first scene in the game buddy.Dante and Vergil isn't hurt by normal bullets dante got shot in the head and spat the bullet out.Dante and Vergil aren't hurt by Grenades in no shape or form.Lady used those and they didn't have much effect on Dante did they?So that proves nothing about this made up:This proves Grimmjaw's defense > Nelo's defense >>> Vergil.They're Half Demons and sons of Sparda you have no proof that Grimmjow's defense is higher.You've missed the point. Dante and Vergil ARE hurt by normal weapons. Their skin is pierced just as easily as any normal person. Whether they feel the pain from it or die is a different matter. If their arm is chopped off, they will be disabled though they might not die or feel pain from it.

If someone slashes Vergil's arm with a sword, it will be chopped off easily. Vergil needs to block bullets, meaning he will be injured to some degree if he's hit. Weakling no-name demons can easily pierce Dante like a pie, and there's nothing preventing them from chopping him through the head if Dante was hit in the head. However, Grimmjaw's skin is too hard for that; if he was hit in the head by a demon of that low strength, he would not get pierced at all...

This is fact. Since demon A can pierce Dante/Vergil easily while it can't pierce Grimmjaw at all, it means Grimmjaw's defense>>>> Vergil's defense. It can't be argued.

[Chrono Detector]

I'm sure somebody would pick it up, hopefully.

Stupid VIZ Media assholes, why do it now? Like there is two more episodes left. Idiots, I hate it when stupid licensers license the show and do this, whats worse they always ruin the anime with their editing and crappy voiceovers. End rant.

[Kenta]

It's still being distributed, try searching on google for some anime ddl sites and use death note as key words.

i'm not posting links since the more they are spread, the more likely these sites will be taken down, but it's not hard to look for them.

[Setsuna Ai]

I don't know if I'm late or not, but am I the only one who's furious of the fact thaet Ergo Proxy, a genius anime is going to air in Fuse?! The channel who supposedly boasted its loyalty to music videos and music videos only in the past?! I mean, the reality shows they've been showing are crap too! I don't mean to be an ass by stereotyping but why would a bunch of pot heads waiting their asses off to see MCR/The Used/whatever stupid sell-out band have you's new music video be so interested in something so great such as Ergo Proxy?! What... do they think it could be part of their so-called "emo" trend their following?! I mean c'mon there's been signs Fuse is selling out to their viewers. Horror movies on Monday?! Pants Off Dance Off?! Are they trying to pull a stupider version of MTV?

I'm sorry if I offended anyone who's totally fond of that "music" channel. I just feel that Ergo Proxy is horribly out of place there (I mean, I understand if they use Adult Swim...BUT FUSE?!).

[nx6]

I tried looking, and I found the current Kuro Hana releases, but I was looking for the Animanda ones.

[M_Ghey]

Weird...
i myself don't really mind, i already watched Ergo Proxy and don't intend on watching it on FUSE.

Who knows, maybe some of the viewers will start getting into anime, lol.

[Setsuna Ai]

Ew you know what's worse than emo wanna be's? Emo wapanese wanna be's! If they want to showcase an anime to boost their popularity, they should just show elfen lied. That way the emos have something they could relate to -_-.

I feel like such an ass writing this xD

[Cassie]

who knows, maybe they wanted something hip? Ergo Proxy kinda fits that :P

speaking of wapanese.. it's a hell of a lot better than Much Music showing episodes of "Turning Japenese", reality show about Kelly Osborne trying to live in Japan... makes me wanna puke.

[Rorschach]

If fuse wishes to show ergo proxy (and possibly other animes, because i think i saw one the other day) to lure viewers from say [AS] or Sci-fi, let 'em do it, they're all basically going for the same demographics. More viewers means more advertisers, which means $$$.

speaking of wapanese.. it's a hell of a lot better than Much Music showing episodes of "Turning Japenese", reality show about Kelly Osborne trying to live in Japan... makes me wanna puke.
Oh god, it's a sign of the apocalypse *shudders*

[Cursive]

A lot of scenefags are weaboofags too and vice versa, so it makes a bit of sense. At least they aren't desecrating the holiness of any series I like, and most likely never will.

[Setsuna Ai]

^weaboofags? whaa? But moot the thing is, if they show one anime (let's say Ergo Proxy in this case) and it turns out to be a hit, they'll start showing other anime, some you might like!

who knows, maybe they wanted something hip? Ergo Proxy kinda fits that :P
speaking of wapanese.. it's a hell of a lot better than Much Music showing episodes of "Turning Japenese", reality show about Kelly Osborne trying to live in Japan... makes me wanna puke.
oh god it's terrible -_-. From what I understand, Ergo Proxy didn't really do well in Japan (according to a statistics it didn't get a lot of views) so what makes them think Americans will like it? Oh I know why, maybe because Americans would find it non-conformist to like it that way they'll just watch it every week to add to their cool points.

That my fellow members, is what I'm afraid of.

[Kenta]

Animanda released only up to ep 31. All later episodes were handled by Kuro-Hana.

[FullMetal Rebel]

It's obviously wrong, as there are multiple times when it did NOT cut through the target. It can't cut through Dante's sword. It can't cut through Jester's hand. It can't even cut through Lady's gun...

How is it wrong it's strait from the game disc,and know the difference between a trying to cut someone,and not.Why would Vergil's/Sparda's Yamato be able to cut through Dante's/Sparda's Rebellion?In case you didn't know Force Edge>Yamato=Rebellion.

The game mode doesn't do anything Vergil's sword skills. He perhaps gains a few new attacks, but his skill is still the same. Either way, a video game mode doesn't determine his skill, cutscenes do.

Where does it say that anything Vergil does in game is made up?When did cutscenes determine his power?He is a GAME character.Devil May Cry isn't Xenosaga or Metal Gear Solid 2 where you are watching the game more than you actually play.

Secondly, the fight was short. Him and Dante were fighting evenly, and the fight only lasted till a little bit... until blood got on the floor.


The fight wasn't short.Dante fights Vergil in game play so that isn't even a tad valid.This is why Vergil's battle music rolls before the battle then ends when another cutscene starts>.<.

Also, "he was fighting Dante" is not a valid argument because that assumes that Dante is somehow much stronger than Grimmjaw, which is what you're trying prove... therefore you can't argue with that assumption. All we know is that he was fighting against an equal opponent, and he became tired very fast. Every character in Bleach can fight against an equal opponent for a long time and not suffer a major degrade in power. Ichigo, even after the severe beating from Grimmjaw, would still be able to own bankai Renji, and Ichigo was in much worse condition than Vergil was when Jester beat him.

Dante and Vergil don't tire very fast as you claim,the fight wasn't short.They can go alot longer than most if not all Bleach characters,being half demons.Also the fights are done in gameplay.

Nelo can't shunpo... he doesn't do it in DMC1, and he only does it in DMC3 because he's a special unlockable. Special unlockables, cheat codes, and other similar "cheats" are not valid arguments. You might as well argue Dante could beat every Bleach character combined cause we could just use gameshark codes.

Those are the rules of the battle assuming Nelo Angelo can,and hence that DMC1 was made way before DMC3 and the developers can add anything they want to their characters.

Vergil is a GAME character, but his strength and speed are displayed within CUTSCENES that define the STORY. Hence, within the context of the story, he is not as powerful as what the gameplay mechanics allow. For instance, Dante = Vergil in all stats. Hence, during gameplay, if Vergil can kill you in 8-9 hits, you should be able to kill him in 8-9 hits... which is FAR from accurate. This is because the aspects used to make good gameplay does not reflect what the actual story abilities/strength is. When the game has an actual storyline that shows the character's strength, the storyline takes precedence. In the story, Vergil can't teleport, "shunpo", or even fly.

For another simpler example, Cloud from Final Fantasy 7 is a game character. In gameplay, he can take bullet wounds with 0 damage at level 99 and can take asteroids hitting him from space. However, storywise he is still killable by gunshots. Under your logic, we should just ignore his storyline strength, which is what you're doing for Vergil. STORY > gameplay because STORY is what is really happening.


Again the rules of the battle are that he can do what he does in gameplay.Dante used styles after he gained them from bosses in the cutscenes so this alone proves that the gameplay moves aren't made up.Why is the Cloud example there?When did I anything that Vergil's gameplay defense is his real defense?I just mentioned gameplay abilities,nothing else.You read my point way off.

Vergil can't DT and use Nelo Angelo armor at the same time. Nelo is not just a set of armor...Nelo is a transformed form of Vergil, hence technically that IS his "devil trigger". He can't use them simultaneously since they're the same thing. Besides, he never does it at any point in the story, so you can't argue as though he can.

Again battle rules.

You've missed the point. Dante and Vergil ARE hurt by normal weapons. Their skin is pierced just as easily as any normal person. Whether they feel the pain from it or die is a different matter. If their arm is chopped off, they will be disabled though they might not die or feel pain from it.

If someone slashes Vergil's arm with a sword, it will be chopped off easily. Vergil needs to block bullets, meaning he will be injured to some degree if he's hit. Weakling no-name demons can easily pierce Dante like a pie, and there's nothing preventing them from chopping him through the head if Dante was hit in the head. However, Grimmjaw's skin is too hard for that; if he was hit in the head by a demon of that low strength, he would not get pierced at all...

This is fact. Since demon A can pierce Dante/Vergil easily while it can't pierce Grimmjaw at all, it means Grimmjaw's defense>>>> Vergil's defense. It can't be argued.

Their skin may be pierced,but Dante and Vergil can Regenerate fast so doesn't really matter.You have no proof that Grimmjow wouldn't be pierced by a Demons scythe.Weak they may be regardless They are still demons.Anything from the Demon world of DMC is beyond that of anything out of the human world.

Grimmjow's defense higher than Vergil's?Not a fact.

[Cassie]

The funny thing here is: FUSE is a channel that's not even close to mainstream.

I really don't think anything it does really matter in terms of making a difference in the American population.

Also, the reason Ergo Proxy doesn't do well is most likely due to its lack of action. It also isn't your stereotypical anime in any way, so there is no niche for it to fall into. Scientific lingo doesn't exactly sell.

[M_Ghey]

oh god it's terrible -_-. From what I understand, Ergo Proxy didn't really do well in Japan (according to a statistics it didn't get a lot of views) so what makes them think Americans will like it? Oh I know why, maybe because Americans would find it non-conformist to like it that way they'll just watch it every week to add to their cool points.

It didnt do so well in Japan because it doesnt have cute girls, mechs, and it's not a shonen or shoujo.

[Jay3205]

How is it wrong it's strait from the game disc,and know the difference between a trying to cut someone,and not.Why would Vergil's/Sparda's Yamato be able to cut through Dante's/Sparda's Rebellion?In case you didn't know Force Edge>Yamato=Rebellion.It means the "able to cut through anything" argument is false. A normal human with a gun blocked it, and Vergil threw Dante out the way to attack Lady, meaning he intended to cut her. He MEANT to cut Jester, but he got smacked around instead. Just face it; Yamato is a normal sword.

Where does it say that anything Vergil does in game is made up?When did cutscenes determine his power?He is a GAME character.Devil May Cry isn't Xenosaga or Metal Gear Solid 2 where you are watching the game more than you actually play.Because cutscene = story. If you go by gameplay....

* Dante and Vergil die multiple times; they just get revived by orbs.
* Vergil can be killed by normal swords within 2-3 hits by boss-level opponents, which Grimmjaw would be.
* Vergil can't maintain Devil Trigger more than a minute.
* Nelo can't run... he can only walk and teleport.
* A normal human (Lady) is able to survive bombs, gun shots, and sword strikes from Dante since she can easily withstand them in gameplay.
* Dante is apparently not strong enough to cut a skeleton in half without needing 3-4 sword strikes...

If you say Vergil can do all his gameplay techniques and ignore his story limits, then you must accept ALL his gameplay abilities and techniques also, meaning he'll die in 2-3 hits.

The fight wasn't short.Dante fights Vergil in game play so that isn't even a tad valid.This is why Vergil's battle music rolls before the battle then ends when another cutscene starts>.<.What an argument... the music means the battle is long. This also means that Grimmjaw's fight against Ichigo is long too... cause they play music. Dante & Vergil's fight IS SHORT because the blood is just starting to fill up the cracks on the ground when their fight ends.

Again the rules of the battle are that he can do what he does in gameplay.Dante used styles after he gained them from bosses in the cutscenes so this alone proves that the gameplay moves aren't made up.Why is the Cloud example there?When did I anything that Vergil's gameplay defense is his real defense?I just mentioned gameplay abilities,nothing else.You read my point way off.Dante doesn't use styles in cutscenes. He uses weapons, which is allowable. He doesn't start teleporting around and appearing multiple places at once.

Also, you can't say "Vergil has his gameplay abilities but not gameplay defense." That's just ignoring the character's development and choosing whatever you want to make him hope to stand a chance.

Again battle rules.Ok... it's a battle rule that Grimmjaw can instantly kill any opponent by looking at them. Your battle rules have given Vergil abilities he doesn't have, so then Grimmjaw should accordingly get an ability he doesn't have.

Their skin may be pierced,but Dante and Vergil can Regenerate fast so doesn't really matter.You have no proof that Grimmjow wouldn't be pierced by a Demons scythe.Weak they may be regardless They are still demons.Anything from the Demon world of DMC is beyond that of anything out of the human world.

Grimmjow's defense higher than Vergil's?Not a fact.Firstly, they don't regenerate so fast that it "doesn't matter". The mere fact that Dante can nearly die from getting stabbed/sliced means it DOES matter. How about arguing against these FACTS...

1) Everytime Dante and Vergil are hit by a blade from ANYBODY, they are cut. Grimmjaw has been shown blocking blades with his skin. Unless you think bankai Ichigo is weaker than a no-name demon, this means Dante/Vergil is pierced by attacks that would not pierce Grimmjaw. Grimmjaw defense>>> Vergil defense.

2) Dante and Vergil are injured by bullets (both in AND out of gameplay). Even in gameplay, Nelo (the strongest form of Vergil) is injured by grenade launchers. Ichigo's getsuga tenshou has far more power than a grenade (plainly visible by the amount of damage). Grimmjaw acknowledges that getsuga tenshou would not injure his released form. This means grenades hurt Vergil but not Grimmjaw. Grimmjaw defense >>> Vergil defense.

3) Ichigo, who is barely injured by being thrown hundreds of feet while crashing through concrete, is far weaker than Grimmjaw. Vergil is knocked on the ground for several seconds while being smacked 10- feet while NOT crashing through concrete/brick. Grimmjaw's defense > Ichigo's defense > Vergil's defense.

4) Ichigo can slash millions of times in a few seconds. Dante at best can do 100 in 5 seconds. Grimmjaw's speed >= Ichigo's speed, so Grimmjaw can also slash millions of times in a few seconds. Grimmjaw's speed > Ichigo's speed > Dante's speed.

5) Ichigo can appear in multiple places at once. Neither Vergil/Dante can do this in or out of gameplay. Grimmjaw could "simultaneously" attack from 2 directions and Vergil wouldn't be fast enough to keep up.

6) Espada release = 5-10x more power (aka bankai power). Devil trigger, at most, gives 3x power. Espada release >>> Devil Trigger.

7) Grimmjaw can "fly"/walk on air. Vergil can't. Grimmjaw could cero/bala Vergil all day from high in the air and not worry about counterattack.

These are facts. It is simple 3 > 2 > 1, so 3 >1. Don't ignore them...again.

[em_23]

Oh wow, I just saw part of the Stormberry versions...that's horrible! I really hope Kuro-hana subs these last two. They said they MIGHT release them. If they don't...*sigh* I have to read the mangas...

[Rorschach]

Hmm Ergo Proxy isn't the only one on FUSE, Tenjho Tenge is also on FUSE, Interesting.

[Kenta]

kuro-hana won't sub them, at least not with the same alias. they don't want to be liable for anything and they already removed the torrents.

[Cursive]

FUSE isn't mainstream? It's on TV, that's mainstream.
@Sen: No, they won't. This weaboofag trend will pass, then all the silly weaboofags will notice they live in America and speak English and are white and they can't change that and they'll find a new trend or kill themselves, hopefully the latter.

[Cassie]

FUSE isn't mainstream? It's on TV, that's mainstream.

I've never heard of FUSE until just recently when people mentioned that Tenjo Tenge was on FUSE....

I wonder how many people actually have that channel.

[Cursive]

I don't, I've just heard of it for years.

[Arei]

Umm... I think episode 25 was the last season's episode. Atleast it SHOULD be, its the end of part 1, but ep 19 would be about halfway through the series.

Do whatever you want, if you think that you need ep 20 on the next disc to even it out so you don't waste an entire DVD on just one ep, go right ahead xDD Or keep it like you have been and then put lots of good DN AMVs there on the last disc as special extras or something xDD


Burn me some copies too =X Cuz I can't figure out how to work the DVD burner on my Mac, and the one on me Dell is too ghetto XPP

[Arei]

Near's a wanna be "L" douchebag, at least Mello had a different personality, to bad it isn't Near who burns to death.

Amen to that. That would make for a great flash game, use whatever explosives, flammables, etc. to light up Near. Someones gotta make this :D

[II Xion II]

Near, for one, he's not

DEAD!!!

He's also not stupidly emotional like Mello is to do all sorts of crazy schemes.

Let's not forget Mello has a huge scar on his face as well, Near does not.

And finally, I do not like chocolate, therefore I like Mello far less than I like Near.

Plus, Mello rhymes with Jello and is not as cool-sounding as "Near."

[nx6]

I decided to push ep 20 to the sixth disc.

When I saw ep 24 (after I had posted that) it isn't such a great way to end a disc because Light gets the notebook right near the beginning of the episode. But 23's ending works better. Also, it would suck to start a disc with 25 and L dying.

[Kuran Kaname]

like zomg!!! l's voice is friggin pwn!!! light should be less childish!!! i think they should of used teehee my voice!!! i need some dam work!!!!!!

[xmaexmaex]

mai would probably win even though she can't really control kagastuchi[sp?!?]
arika barely unlocked her jewel at the end of the series, so. yeah mai would probaly win

[Jay3205]

Arika would beat Mai pretty badly. Meister level Otome robes provide far too much strength, speed, and maneuverability for Mai to hope to keep up. Kagutsuchi has too low maneuverability to defend or keep up with Arika, and Kagutsuchi's attacks are too big. If Arika is anywhere near Mai during the fight (which she would be considering her weapon is a sword), then Kagutsuchi could not launch an attack without severely injuring Mai in the process...

It's like Yuna + Valefor (FFX) vs bankai Ichigo. Valefor would be a pain to fight against, but Yuna would be taken out with little to no resistance, and Valefor would be far too slow to save her. Mai's shield is too weak to protect her, since she has trouble keeping it up while defending against weak monsters while Arika can shatter asteroids.

Kagutsuchi can't even hit Mikoto, who is FAR slower than a meister otome. On top of this, Mai can't even control it properly. Since only Mai needs to be beaten for Arika to win, this is an extremely one-sided match.

[yushin]

i like this very much.
how everything made compact!
oh girl i wished i had items like they have.

metabugs!!!!!!

this kids should be rich already because of the metabugs that cost millions!

if metabugs exist today i won't bother working or studying anymore.

i'll just dedicate my life to be a cyber wizard or encoder.

i can't belive those grade schoolers beat me at hacking.

[yushin]

its so sad. they say that the series is coming to an end.
i really loved it.
i think serious music is good to hear now and then. (wuh...english is hard -aru)

i love the OST!
especially sagittarius OP2..

and the shubert,bethoven and diffrent musicians.
i never learned of them since i watched nodame cantabile.

--------
also, it was said that the live action came first before the anime series
live actions is funny too but i want to finish the anime series before watching the live action.

[kenicchi]

hmm, all good points, i especially like ur last point :p

[woody0]

Thanks for the help there DevilMacCry

*I used that realitylapse site and got ep 1 and 2 but when i got 3 it didnt work properly and i dont know where else i can watch it, so anyone have a good idea?

[HyperReaper1]

Zoro all the way XD

[HyperReaper1]

Crocodile

[Lady Ushio]

I vote for Near. He is smarter than L though.

...But I still like L.

[DevilMacCry]

well whit ie browser can i download it whitout problems...

[woody0]

Doesn't matter anymore i've been using Google Video and im now up to episode 6, how many episodes of Hime is there?

[Outlawz]

Sorry, Mello is more like L than Near is...
...and honestly, I've NEVER liked Near in the manga or anime. blegh.

How, the only thing Mello and L have in common is that they both eat chocolate.

[salkcin89]

If Vivi would come back to Luffys crew then that would be great even she is not strong.

So what do you think?

[chaosadept]

She won't come back, she has a country to rule over now. :)
It was a nice character though.

[Bak3d on H1gh]

The bugs n't acutally cost millions of yen(besides million yen is like 100$ lol)

anyways shouldn't there have been a release by now or something?

[Gedanke]

The bugs n't acutally cost millions of yen(besides million yen is like 100$ lol)

anyways shouldn't there have been a release by now or something?


Well, the series is currently at episode 5. The episodes air on Saturdays, I believe. So it's not 'till usually Mondayish that the subbed releases seem to be put out.

[yushin]

i love the encoder techniques and the imago technique where you operate your system without moving a finger just using the mind.

[L]

How is this going along? If this is not going on anymore, then I'll unstick it.

[Bak3d on H1gh]

I thought there was supposed to be one soon because i hadn't seen that #5 had been released.

[FreedoM]

I'm usually the type of person to give English dubs a chance, but Light's voice actor just sounds a little nerdy to be honest.

[FreedoM]

A hard decision, but my favorite character has to be L because he's so cool and and interesting character. I like how he olds his phone when he talks or his style of sitting.

[Kenta]

It was sad to see her leave. I like her more than Nami too, but her responsibility is too great to satisfy her own ambition.

[DevilMacCry]

Mai Hime 26 and Mai Otome is the same 26 epi.

[yushin]

i love how they brought the cyberspace into the real world. like create a proxy of your self and create a firewall so you can't be detected. but you can break thru if you can hack it.

[kenicchi]

He was funnier than the other villains, the way he was sarcastic and made ppl feel stupid

Someone: Give us back our King
Crocdile: Yes, thats what i'll do, kidnap him and give him back, you dont have your thinking cap on."

Im sure that was the dub, so its not as funny as it could be, but u get my drift

[kenicchi]

wo0ot, zorro ftw, even though its not a poll

[woody0]

Ok, so there arn't many then

[Outlawz]

Light, Kira is one of the better villians in an anime.

[erika]

i would go for L... a very mysterious guy and very smart... ooh and very weird too.. he looks cool even with those loose jeans, sweater and is barefoot.. yea!:Haha

[..::Mr 999::..]

Light : i like her style, when he take his phone

[..::Mr 999::..]

it's hard to say. i guess i was averaging about 50/60kbps, although again that's just the average......more often than not there were high/low fluctuations. i'm just amazed i was able to finish downloading the thing to begin with.

actually i've just checked animeyume and there are 43 seeds for the full episode torrent which isn't too bad IMO(fansub group Static Subs). i'll happily post the torrent if you want it if you don't feel like registering on animeyume.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WBELZW4G

That is usefull

[Edgey]

yeah they should release both at the same time.. ^^. Or at least the series a little bit before the game to promote the game ^^.
I just hope they don't make a Kh version of FF unlimited... god that sucked!
Your dam right it did ^^

[NykylaiHellray]

I was wondering, did mikami really die at the end of vol 12? Because this yamamoto charecter at the end kinda looks identical to him but with shorter hair?

Is matsuda just an idiot that he does not notice?

[Neku]

Argh damnit, i can't find anywhere thats got the last few episodes of death note uploaded... :(

Anyone know of anywhere, thanks... :X

[Shezmu]

Argh damnit, i can't find anywhere thats got the last few episodes of death note uploaded... :(
Anyone know of anywhere, thanks... :X


I suggest you download torrents, just search them on torrentspy or something =)

or download here : http://www.megaupload.com/nl/?d=BEKU2AOA <-- 36

[Miyagi Rikku]

If all fails just watch it on veoh.com x_x;

[L]

What episodes? Here are some Megaupload links for 31-35 courtesy of NF:

Episode 31
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2W1BJOW5

Episode 32
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=R2B7S1N7

Episode 33
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=A90JGR21

Episode 34
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QUBURWW9

Episode 35
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=E11RYEKO

[Neku]

Prefer the higher quality ones though Legend.

Managed to find some subs on isohunt.

[Miyagi Rikku]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/mrr/Miyagi2/1182348563113.png


:) something for the angry mob

[L]

I wrote Viz Media, but nothing worked. I think I bought College Rule instead of Death Rules :(

In any case, I have the HQ versions on my computer if you ever need them. That is, if I can manage to upload these things on my now-slow connection.

*I take that back, I don't have all HQs :0

[nx6]

Argh damnit, i can't find anywhere thats got the last few episodes of death note uploaded... :(

Most of the older episodes disappeared. I think everyone took the June 22nd deadline seriously, did marathon downloading and seeding on the torrents of everything they were missing, then got the f*** of the Net.

I think this is why the peer/seed ratio for the C&D Ep 36 was so high.

[Neku]

Yeah it wont let me download C&D's episode 36, just downloads at like 500bytes/s when its usually 300kb/s...

Fortuently ive got all the episodes of Death Note other than 36, i have a fetish for having all series downloaded, the only series i havent got fully downloaded(which i watch every week like bleach death note etc) is naruto which i cba to download the 100 odd filler eps.

[Chrono Detector]

Kuro Hana is still subbing it, just under the alias of "C&D". I might be wrong, but I'm sure its them, if you watched episode 36 subbed by C&D, the font is exactly the same as Kuro Hana's subs.

[Echo Warlord]

Well one of my favs is on the sea train sanji kicks him handsome, wanze the cp7 cook hes the most annoying but he is real funny

[Ligier]

Donquixote Doflamingo

I like puppetmasters

[Neku]

Yeah i noticed that after watching the C&D subbed version(took forever to find a working torrent of it...).

[kenicchi]

i dont like his outfit, lol, too pink and fluffy

[Geb]

for me both near and mello are two annoying little brats who are not worthy of being a substitue for L

(know the topic is mello or near, but i had to say against both of them..)

[Geb]

Ryuk! even though he scared the *hit out of me in the first episode - he reminded me of that "horror" movie called "It", about a clown.... yak, hated clowns since then
through out the anime i slowly grew fond of Ryuk so now he's my favourite (talk about changing your opinon completely)

in light of his obssesion with apples i give you this:
(not sure if this pic was already on spoofs)

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/5628/ryuukfo5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
lmao

[Outlawz]

for me both near and mello are two annoying little brats who are not worthy of being a substitue for L
(know the topic is mello or near, but i had to say against both of them..)

Which is why they should have ended the manga after L. got killed, and end volume 7 with Kira winning, then it would have been a really good, maybe even great series, and not just classic shonen garbage.

[Ligier]

Ok, the outfit is not the biggest of his pros...
But if you go for the outfit my choice would be hawkeye or robin while she was working for the crocodile

[Neku]

Don't like either really but if i had to chose it'd be Mello mainly because he goes o much bigger legnths to get the job done, perhaps a bit too much at times but still and also Near just annoys me, he doesnt deserve the title of L or even a sucessor to L, as Light/Kira said in the latest episode of Death Note(36) hes a much weaker and not as intelligant as L was plus i hate how hes allways messing with toys or his hair..

L for lyfe, no one can beat him tbh... wheres the option of Neither..

[Momo]

um, my first impression for mello was:
arrogant, stupid and wanna be badass.

On another hand, Near... who is like patient, intelligent and don't wanna be badass... caught my attention. XD

so yeah, me goes for near... STILL L beats them >_> SRLY.

[Pookie99]

i know the original L was the coolest imo...

[Pookie99]

uhhh i liked DN better but i found that i can watch episodes of bleach over and over a few times b4 i get tired of them...but once i know the plot of DN since it's a mystery based anime i think it gets boring faster....

[Pookie99]

uhhh somehow i missed it somewhere in the anime...the third notebook confused me...when did it come in the anime lol...?

[FullMetal Rebel]

It means the "able to cut through anything" argument is false. A normal human with a gun blocked it, and Vergil threw Dante out the way to attack Lady, meaning he intended to cut her. He MEANT to cut Jester, but he got smacked around instead. Just face it; Yamato is a normal sword.

I show you evidence from the game disc and you still deny it.Just becoming ignorant to the fact at this point.Last time I respond to something proven.

Because cutscene = story. If you go by gameplay....

* Dante and Vergil die multiple times; they just get revived by orbs.
* Vergil can be killed by normal swords within 2-3 hits by boss-level opponents, which Grimmjaw would be.
* Vergil can't maintain Devil Trigger more than a minute.
* Nelo can't run... he can only walk and teleport.
* A normal human (Lady) is able to survive bombs, gun shots, and sword strikes from Dante since she can easily withstand them in gameplay.
* Dante is apparently not strong enough to cut a skeleton in half without needing 3-4 sword strikes...

If you say Vergil can do all his gameplay techniques and ignore his story limits, then you must accept ALL his gameplay abilities and techniques also, meaning he'll die in 2-3 hits.

Again last time I respond to this.Vergil has his gameplay techniques,because dante has his.Dante uses doppelganger and quicksilver in the cutscenes so that arguement is pure bull.The part where you say i must accept all parts of gameplay is almost laughable.

What an argument... the music means the battle is long. This also means that Grimmjaw's fight against Ichigo is long too... cause they play music. Dante & Vergil's fight IS SHORT because the blood is just starting to fill up the cracks on the ground when their fight ends.

You won't accept that the fight is done in gameplay and not cutscenes and keep going in circles with this.Last time responding to such ignorance.

Dante doesn't use styles in cutscenes. He uses weapons, which is allowable. He doesn't start teleporting around and appearing multiple places at once.

Umm http://youtube.com/watc