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Artemis
08-04-2007, 04:33 PM
I'm guessing that there isn't a spam bot that can do this.
Because it seems like it.

Donut, just let the threads rot.
The admins can take care of it.

Rorschach
08-04-2007, 04:37 PM
ddmLpXgaiAE

Caesar
08-04-2007, 05:09 PM
http://www.sendspace.com/file/mq21ym(by Angelz)
This is the 1st time i saw Usopp so cool!!!!!

livE
08-04-2007, 09:01 PM
L: Bah they're better off dead anyways

Light: i really did cheat on all those tests bak in hischool...

Misa: My hair was dyed yellow. Fooled u i was blonde didn't i?

livE
08-04-2007, 09:13 PM
lol, the voice was kinda off at some parts too.

and scorch, that's probably what happened, except that he wasn't attempting to be good. he was attempting not to be completely disasterous (at which he failed) because that would have been a big step for him to begin with.

livE
08-04-2007, 09:28 PM
if Near ripped out the pages, and put new ones in, the deathnote would think there was no more pages left, and so would somehow renew the pages, adn therefore,t here'd be new pages right? and then the pages that were put in there, as far as the deathnote know, don't exist, so the deathnote would suddenly be 2x as thick?

dawin45
08-04-2007, 09:39 PM
So who do you think is gonna win thie epic battle between 2 blood named series fight...
in the red corner: saya Otonashi from the series Blood+,has friend called haji,which is also her chevalier, since she saved him when he was little,has a familly behind,won agains her sister(diva) in an epic battle...has a katana blade as her weapon of choice...
in the blue corner : Father Abel Nightroad, from the series Trinity blood,is member of the AX, special forces of the vatican, which mission is to hunt down vampires, and keep peace between the reamayning humanity left after the Armaghedon,his weapon of choice is a gun which is the weapon provided by the vatican for AX members,but he has a secret weapon of his sleave, in fact he isn't a human at all he is a Krusnik, a vampire of extreme,that has secret power up his sleve...
NOW LET"S GET READY TO RUMBLE! FIGHT!

dawin45
08-04-2007, 09:41 PM
neo because, neo has the power to stop time, now look at the movies and in some fight the Mr. Smiths are moving so like a snail that he almost kills Mr. smith!
I'm not betting against neo until I see some real live action of bleach in a movie of some sort...

FullMetal Rebel
08-04-2007, 10:31 PM
Ichigo,because matrix character beating manga chracter is dumb as hell.

satanicrizng
08-05-2007, 01:47 AM
i think Ichigo would kill neo. neo is no match for Ichigo. exspesaly if rukia was invalved

Kenta
08-05-2007, 02:02 AM
indeed. first time ever. :D

zoro's fight looks bad though.

Jay3205
08-05-2007, 03:15 AM
Actually, Neo would win "if trinity was invalved". It would just be "dumb as hell" if a manga character beat someone from the Matrix.

On a more serious note, posts like that aren't arguments, and they really don't contribute to thread... they just increase post count, making senseless spam. For those who are too lazy to read the forum rules, I'll quote them here.


Think before you post/vote and be logical in your approach. Give reasons for your arguement and support them with facts based on the anime and/or manga. Personal opinion doesn't account for much in situations like these...

The following is not allowed:
...
- Posting in favor of a character just because you "like" him/her more than the other(s) he/she is pitted against
e.g. "Hrm...I'm rather partial to Temari; I find everything about her simply orgasmic. Temari vs Sasuke? No contest...Temari wins, IMO."
Or
"w00t! Temari rox my sox! She is teh seks! She easily pwnz Sasugay!1one1!"
...

- Posting one sentence replies. Unless it's something constructive, it will be considered spam

Basically, vote for a character and give simple rational logical reasons why he/she beats the other.Now, if anyone feels like posting an actual argument for the battle, please continue.

FullMetal Rebel
08-05-2007, 07:48 AM
On a more serious note, posts like that aren't arguments, and they really don't contribute to thread... they just increase post count, making senseless spam. For those who are too lazy to read the forum rules, I'll quote them here.

Ok your point?As far as I've seen people at Club Bleach don't care about post count.That might be hard for you to understand seeing as your not active anyway.Your confused with a forum known as Naruto fan.

Now, if anyone feels like posting an actual argument for the battle, please continue.

Alright Mr.Omgrz your post isn't serious enough!

1.No 1 cares about your argument fetish in the battle section.
2.What is there to argue?He doesn't stand a chance.That simple.

Actually, Neo would win "if trinity was invalved". It would just be "dumb as hell" if a manga character beat someone from the Matrix.

1.Making fun of satanicrizng's typo won't get you anywhere.
2.How is it dumb as hell?Neo has 6 votes,Ichigo has 11.

FullMetal Rebel
08-05-2007, 07:51 AM
Don't remember much of Tifa,but Mirage is pretty strong.Since I forgot most of Tifa's ability,I'll narrow it down to who is hotter.So I'll pick Tifa.

Akiha
08-05-2007, 07:57 AM
Tifa is indeed hotter. >_>

But for the battle's sake, I say Mirage. I've seen both fight, and since Mirage is a Clausian, she has 10x the strength of a normal human, since her planet's gravity is 10x ours, if I remember correctly.

Midgar, Tifa's world, seemed to be based off of Earth. So Tifa may be strong, but only strong on Earth.

This is only basing them off strength. There are other factor's that could be added in, including enviroment, plans, and luck.

But Mirage owns Tifa in a battle of strength.

ShinjiHirako
08-05-2007, 11:39 AM
I read something about that.
It said that the shinigami will take the death note if it is full.
I don't know if it's true or not.

Jay3205
08-05-2007, 05:58 PM
Ok your point?As far as I've seen people at Club Bleach don't care about post count.That might be hard for you to understand seeing as your not active anyway.Your confused with a forum known as Naruto fan.As far I've seen, most people in any argument thread apparently only care about post count, since they obviously don't care about post content. It might be hard for you to understand, seeing as you fall into the "spam only" group anyway. You must've confused this forum with the "Randomness" forum.

Alright Mr.Omgrz your post isn't serious enough!

1.No 1 cares about your argument fetish in the battle section.
2.What is there to argue?He doesn't stand a chance.That simple.1) You are breaking forum rules, as I stated earlier. There is no point in battle threads when 80% of the users will just post spam. If I can post your "arguments" exactly back to you and have them "make sense", then it means you are not arguing... just spamming. It's time to learn the difference.

2) What is there to argue? Ichigo doesn't stand a chance...

1.Making fun of satanicrizng's typo won't get you anywhere.
2.How is it dumb as hell?Neo has 6 votes,Ichigo has 11.1) Making fun of my upholding of the rules won't get you anywhere.

2) It is "dumb as hell" because the evidence of Neo's strength far surpasses what Ichigo has done. If 11 people jumped off a bridge and 6 did not, it would still be "dumb as hell" to jump off. According to you, it would actually make more sense to jump off.

Ichigo has never done anything on the level of stopping a trailer truck at 100+ mph with one hand. Anytime Neo is not fighting anti-Neo, he dominates without needing to even push the upper limit of his strength. Ichigo will get wasted by every opponent until he has a flashback of his friends to give him magical plot-saving powers.

P.S. You should get your eyes checked. My post count clearly is above yours, indicating I am indeed more active than you are. Also, my posts contain content, which is more than I can say for many of your posts.

Sendivoge
08-05-2007, 06:45 PM
I think it would begin with Neo winning at the first encounter with Ichigo, who has a habit of losing to people he's just met. Then Ichigo would suddenly realize something, or go away and learn some stuff, and return or get the upper hand.
Ichigo will practically win, but not go so far as to finish the job, because Neo isn't a meany. Consequently, they join forces and we catch some humerous clips at the end; probably of Neo in situations we would never have imagined... like borrowing a book from the library and having difficulty.
2) It is "dumb as hell" because the evidence of Neo's strength far surpasses what Ichigo has done. If 11 people jumped off a bridge and 6 did not, it would still be "dumb as hell" to jump off. According to you, it would actually make more sense to jump off.
Basically you're saying, "majority voting means nothing in any circumstances; everybody else is wrong because this is my opinion. Here's an analogy i think you'll like, it's undeniably accurate but grossly unrealistic and extreme... i used my own crayons :headbang "
If we switch that analogy around to 11 staying while 6 jump, i think we know which group you're in... it means nothing. Majority votes are good enough, no one has to accept the outcome as their own opinion from now on.

Ichigo has never done anything on the level of stopping a trailer truck at 100+ mph with one hand. Anytime Neo is not fighting anti-Neo, he dominates without needing to even push the upper limit of his strength. Ichigo will get wasted by every opponent until he has a flashback of his friends to give him magical plot-saving powers.
One hand? A truck? when was this? Are you talking about stopping bullets being the equivalent?

Jay3205
08-05-2007, 08:02 PM
Basically you're saying, "majority voting means nothing in any circumstances; everybody else is wrong because this is my opinion. Here's an analogy i think you'll like, it's undeniably accurate but grossly unrealistic and extreme... i used my own crayons "
If we switch that analogy around to 11 staying while 6 jump, i think we know which group you're in... it means nothing. Majority votes are good enough, no one has to accept the outcome as their own opinion from now on.Majority voting doesn't really mean anything when the bulk of the voters do not know the details of both characters' abilities.

From what I've seen, most people on this board know very little about characters who aren't from a manga, hence they're quick to vote for the manga character. Two major references I can make are Grimmjaw vs Hulk and Superman vs Goku. Goku and Grimmjaw were severely winning their matches due to the sole fact that almost nobody knew the abilities of the opponents. It wasn't until 1-2 people came in with actual knowledge before the polls swung. Yet still, people will just make claims like "Grimmjaw can wtf p0wN anyone" and state no reasons as to why or how. It's no different than a 5 year old kid saying his dad could beat Mike Tyson in a fist fight "cause it's obvious". Without reason, that opinion holds almost no weight. Those kinds of battle threads might as well be "who do you like you more" threads.

One hand? A truck? when was this? Are you talking about stopping bullets being the equivalent?It does not happen in the movies. However, the movie writers / developers describe Agent Smith's full power, and it is described as being able to stop a trailer truck at 100+ (I think 150) mph with only one hand. Since one Smith at the end of the Matrix is approximately equal to Neo, then Neo could do the same thing.

FullMetal Rebel
08-05-2007, 08:05 PM
2) What is there to argue? Ichigo doesn't stand a chance...


Look at the poll fanboy.

2) It is "dumb as hell" because the evidence of Neo's strength far surpasses what Ichigo has done. If 11 people jumped off a bridge and 6 did not, it would still be "dumb as hell" to jump off. According to you, it would actually make more sense to jump off.

Ichigo is winning.Believe it Fanboy.

Ichigo has never done anything on the level of stopping a trailer truck at 100+ mph with one hand. Anytime Neo is not fighting anti-Neo, he dominates without needing to even push the upper limit of his strength. Ichigo will get wasted by every opponent until he has a flashback of his friends to give him magical plot-saving powers.


Yammy's fist is stronger than a truck,Believe it.

P.S. You should get your eyes checked. My post count clearly is above yours, indicating I am indeed more active than you are. Also, my posts contain content, which is more than I can say for many of your posts.

I lol'd at this.Your join date is the only reason your post count is higher.You don't even post in this forum other than battle threads,and try to bait other users.

Where are you in the Bleach section?No where.

Where are you in the Naruto section?No where.

The Lounge?No where.

No FCs joined.

No Shinigami Academy/Quincy/Vizard/divison blah,blah,blah,

Ok you get my point by now people.

You need to get your vocabulary checked.Your not active deal with it.And no higher post count does not mean higher activeness.Your a baiting troll,that's the best way to describe you.

Kalashnikov
08-05-2007, 08:07 PM
Anyone who can tamper with time should surely be able to beat Ichigo.

Sendivoge
08-05-2007, 11:08 PM
Neo can tamper with time...?

sweeter
08-05-2007, 11:18 PM
I read it all. Seriously.

Some parts are made of epic lulz, rivaling that of the FAH thread.

On topic, I'm inclined to say that Grimmjow will win, due to the preponderance of evidence provided by Jay3205.

(:

Jay3205
08-05-2007, 11:35 PM
Look at the poll fanboy.The poll is not an argument...

Ichigo is winning.Believe it Fanboy.Winning a poll is not an argument.

Yammy's fist is stronger than a truck,Believe it.No. A 150 mph truck would do far more damage than Yammi ever has. A rudimentary knowledge of physics will tell you this.

I lol'd at this.Your join date is the only reason your post count is higher.You don't even post in this forum other than battle threads,and try to bait other users.

Where are you in the Bleach section?No where.

Where are you in the Naruto section?No where.

The Lounge?No where.

No FCs joined.

No Shinigami Academy/Quincy/Vizard/divison blah,blah,blah,

Ok you get my point by now people.

You need to get your vocabulary checked.Your not active deal with it.And no higher post count does not mean higher activeness.Your a baiting troll,that's the best way to describe you.1) I don't bait users. I merely ask for arguments in debate therads, which is what SHOULD be happening in any debate thread. Not senseless "Sasuke p0wns for teh win".

2) I am in the Bleach section.

3) I am in the Lounge section.

4) I am in the Naruto section, albeit very rarely.

5) I do not care for FCs for anime characters.

6) I do not care for getting a shinigami title, as it makes no difference.

7) You need to get your vocabulary check. Activity = performing any action. Posting means activity. I am someone who follows forum rules and posts appropriately. You seem to think asking for arguments in a DEBATE thread is trolling, in which case any good debater is a troll by your standards.

Here's some good / bad posts...

Ichigo would destroy him. Tho I'm not surprised this was raised considering their similar appearance in bankai
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if they just had their powers.. then Ichigo would still win. He's got Vaizard, bankai, getsuga tenshou plus a sword. He's too fast and would just cut him apartGood post. It has reasons why Ichigo would win, mostly that Ichigo is considered faster and can attack faster.

I really don't see Neo blocking a Getsuga Tenshou while Ichigo's in Vaizard bankai mode.Good. Basically, getsuga tenshou = Neo's death since Neo can't block it.

who is neo anyway?
i dont know him so i'll bet for ichigoBad post. No valid reason, just random poll biasing.

Ichigo,because matrix character beating manga chracter is dumb as hell.Bad post. No valid reason. Just a biased posting.

It's not much. Even a 1 line post of why the character will win is OK. However, "Neo is retarded, so Pikachu wins!" is just spam. It's no different than asking a bunch of 3 year olds to read and report about how good of a book Uncle Tom's Cabin is. Sure, you'll get a poll opinion, but the results mean nothing if you expected them to answer based on intelligent reasoning.

FullMetal Rebel
08-06-2007, 12:21 AM
The poll is not an argument...

So your opinion is law?

Winning a poll is not an argument.


So your word is law?

No. A 150 mph truck would do far more damage than Yammi ever has. A rudimentary knowledge of physics will tell you this.


I'm going to ask to watch Yammy's attack on Ichigo and co.

He leveled the whole ground with his fist.His cero did way more damange than a truck ever will.

Your in denial that Ichigo would beat Neo anyway.The polls is proof enough as it is.

7) You need to get your vocabulary check. Activity = performing any action. Posting means activity. I am someone who follows forum rules and posts appropriately. You seem to think asking for arguments in a DEBATE thread is trolling, in which case any good debater is a troll by your standards.


Baiting other users by saying "Your post is spam,because your argument isn't valid" is not asking.

Second thing this isn't a debate thread.This is a battle thread,no one has to please your debating needs in this part of the forum.You claim who you think will win,then you leave or stay.No one has to argue with you in a battle thread.

Pasting someone else's post and saying "Apparently he/she wins duh!" explains everything,just because you don't like it.Is just trying to provoke an action out of somebody.

The battle section isn't for arguing against somebody just because they don't agree with you.Or is accepting others opinions too much for you?You pick your choice,and leave or stay.

Regardless,don't expect me too feed you any further.This is boring enough as it is.Dealing with somebody who has problems with people not agreeing with him.

Just because you don't like a post,you claim it as "spam"

That is as far as I deal with "Your post is not valid/long enough!!" crap.Go look up the definition of "Forum"

The reasons why Neo would lose was already explained to begin with.So why repeat what they say?

Jay3205
08-06-2007, 05:39 AM
So your opinion is law?It's common sense. A poll is not an argument on something factual; it just measures what people think. Saying a poll is an argument is like saying flying pigs are a reality because 51% of the population believes in it. It's apparent that you need a lesson in logic and plain English before you can actually attempt to make a decent argument.

So your word is law?This again, is common sense. There is no debating what an argument is.

I'm going to ask to watch Yammy's attack on Ichigo and co.

He leveled the whole ground with his fist.His cero did way more damange than a truck ever will.

Your in denial that Ichigo would beat Neo anyway.The polls is proof enough as it is.Yammi broke some rocks through one punch. A normal car moving sixty miles per hour would do the same. A karate expert with a metal fist could break through rock. A truck moving at 150 mph would do far more damage. It's not an opinion; it's physics.

Baiting other users by saying "Your post is spam,because your argument isn't valid" is not asking.That is not baiting. It is stating the facts. Forum rules require an argument. If the rules said "spam all you want", this would not be a problem.

Second thing this isn't a debate thread.This is a battle thread,no one has to please your debating needs in this part of the forum.You claim who you think will win,then you leave or stay. No one has to argue with you in a battle thread.

Pasting someone else's post and saying "Apparently he/she wins duh!" explains everything,just because you don't like it.Is just trying to provoke an action out of somebody.It is a debate thread over who would win. If it wasn't, there would only be 1 post in the thread which contains the poll... no need for further postings.

Secondly, it provokes an explanation, which already SHOULD have been given in the first place. This is not my opinion. It is forum rule. It's no different than reprimanding someone who goes in a manga thread and posts "Buy Vodka for $99". If such punishments when on in this forum, too many users would be banned though.

Regardless,don't expect me too feed you any further.This is boring enough as it is.Dealing with somebody who has problems with people not agreeing with him.

Just because you don't like a post,you claim it as "spam"
I have no problem with someone who doesn't agree with me. If you actually read the thread, I initially thought Ichigo would win. However, when EVIDENCE is provided, it changed my opinion. I don't claim stuff as spam because I don't like it. I point it out because that's what it is as defined by the forum rules. I haven't argued with anyone who put up a valid point. It was only you with your ridiculous spam post that it started. Apparently you aren't able to read rules, which is why that is beyond your understanding.

That is as far as I deal with "Your post is not valid/long enough!!" crap.Go look up the definition of "Forum"

The reasons why Neo would lose was already explained to begin with.So why repeat what they say?Go look up the definition of "forum rules". Then go look up the definition for "fanboy". Hopefully you'll realize that you are breaking forum rules and fall into the biased fanboy category.

Reasons were given why Neo could lose. Reasons were also given negating those points, such as that Ichigo's speed doesn't matter as much when Neo bends time. It was a debate. Then, certain ignorant fanboys came in and started spamming, reducing the IQ of all the decent posters here.

It's only common sense that when you vote on something, you should have a reason why. Otherwise, you are just throwing the polls and spamming. Either way, I don't have time to argue with some kid who knows neither logic nor enough English to make a decent argument or read forum rules.

Seff vi Britannia
08-06-2007, 11:31 PM
*shrugs* like i said, Meidou Zangetsuha couldn't touch Ichigo, for a variety of reasons. :D

wolf_11
08-06-2007, 11:43 PM
Inuyasha is too slow to even lay hit on ichigo. Ichigo would win w/out any trouble.

DevilMacCry
08-07-2007, 10:33 AM
well i am not intrestet in the childs but i prefer kagesutchi because he´s the child from mai and i love this anime char so mutch! i´ve cried when i saw mai hime....

Hunni3
08-07-2007, 10:39 AM
kiyohime kicked ass =) love will make you do crazy things lol

KholdStare
08-07-2007, 11:49 PM
So who will be the victor? The former Hokage Sarutobi in his prime or Uchiha Itachi?

XING
08-08-2007, 12:03 AM
i thought you were talking about the fourth hokage hehe itachi will win
well the old man is old

FullMetal Rebel
08-08-2007, 12:12 AM
Itachi,the old man is too old.

KholdStare
08-08-2007, 12:24 AM
Itachi,the old man is too old.
Sorry, meant to say Sarutobi in his prime. Apparently didn't and edited it now.

Guy
08-08-2007, 02:04 AM
Sarutobi didn't fare that well against Orochimaru... and Itachi is suppose to be stronger than Orochimaru.... I'm leaning towards Itachi on this one.

Bankai_Zangetsu
08-08-2007, 02:48 AM
yeah but once again this is asking for sarutobi in his prime he was an old fart when fighting orochimaru.

FreedoM
08-08-2007, 05:03 AM
Wow...what can i say wow....well If this hasnt been posted and you really Really wanna relive your Youth go to WWW.Toonamiarsenal.com That has every commercial/clip of all of the toonami from like 1998 or whenever Toonami started with moltar and up...I remember me and a buddy sitting on the couch and seeing the Very First Tenchi Muyo Trailer...and i was like...thats gonna be the gayest show ever...turned out to be one of my favs ever. I got introduced to Toonami in 1999 So i was 14 or 15.

Whoa, nice link. If only they have episode downloads =X

KholdStare
08-08-2007, 06:35 AM
yeah but once again this is asking for sarutobi in his prime he was an old fart when fighting orochimaru.

I don't think that Sarutobi was a pushover even at that age. He was fighting at two former Hokages with only the aid of his animal summon. Yes, this fight is between Itachi right now and Sarutobi in his prime but I don't think it's right to refer to Sarutobi as an "old fart" when he fought on equal footing with a Sannin and two former hokage.

notpr0nerz
08-08-2007, 08:11 AM
L: So I haer u liek Mudkipz?

Light: <_<

Bamboobie
08-08-2007, 09:46 PM
Light: I serve God

L: "OMG, my legs hurt! Why do you guys make me sit like this?"
"Thumbsucking is for babies"
"Next time when I'm in the rain, I'll stand under my umberella-ella-ella hey-hey. Under my umberella-ella-ella hey-hey.

Draffut
08-09-2007, 04:46 AM
Saidame was known as the "God of Ninja".

Itachi was one an incredible genious.

So definatly saidame, but probobly not by a whole lot.

From what has been shown, Yondaime is about the only ninja we know to be more powerful then Saidame prime. With Pein and Madara as possibilities.

Also, all those using the Orochimaru fight as a refernce, 3 things:

1. Saidaime was not going all out on Orochimaru, as stated by Enma.

2. We are talking prime here, which is far above what orochimaru faced.

3. Itachi would have gotten his ass kicked by Orochimaru, had Orochimaru used the ressurection jutsu on him, as he did Saidame. the ability to summon previous Kages is incredible.

The fact that in this series, jsut becuase A>B, and B>C, doesn't mean A>C. jutsu's like that are the reason.

L_Lawliet
08-09-2007, 05:10 AM
L : I like food .......

Esca
08-09-2007, 05:23 AM
Light: The death note is booooooring~! Let's go raving, Ryuk!

L: I'm autistic.

kenicchi
08-09-2007, 05:59 PM
lawls at ussop, looks bad, but he hasnt put on his bandana yet, so there should be a round two

II Xion II
08-09-2007, 06:34 PM
He's not coming back. He's on the moon and loving every minute of it.

I mean we'll probably not see any of the old villains any time soon, and I highly doubt that they'll be in any sort of fighting scenes. Especially against Luffy who kicked all of their asses.

yespossible
08-09-2007, 08:28 PM
Imo it sounds a bit like Toby Maguire from Spider Man...

yespossible
08-09-2007, 08:34 PM
Very fast verison of 2nd Opening http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGmvaxee5DU&mode=related&search=

GrimmjowJeage
08-10-2007, 02:18 AM
Let's see...

Itachi is the second strongest member (assuming Madara should be greater) of the Uchiha clan...
He can make illusions if you look directly into he's eyes, or if he makes a seal with he's hands...
He can see through illusions...
He easily becomes tired just by using his powers...
He can copy NINJA techniques...

Aizen has at least twice the power of a Shinigami CAPTAIN (as was stated in the manga)...
He can make illusions that will affect all the five senses of Itachi as long as Aizen will desire it just by drawing out his sword...
Aizen has mastered to the maximum the Shumpo (teleport), hand-to-hand combat, Shikai and Bankai using and Kidoh (meaning he can do any Hadou or Bakudou he wants without any effort)...
Aizen has surely Hollow powers now, meaning he can turn into a Vizard and then will have really greater power...


I think even Renji could take on Itachi and win the fight, since he has techniques similar to Katon while in Bankai, he has Shumpo, and other many special attacks.

So Aizen will literally rip apart Itachi and win in no time.

(All of this ignoring the facts stated by StoneTitan, who is absolutely right).

Esca
08-10-2007, 04:06 AM
Aizen does not have hollow powers, yet. If he would try to obtain them, it would be when the hougyoku has fully awakened.

Aizen has not mastered everything, and it wasn't stated anywhere that he had twice the power of a high-tier shinigami captain.

Esca
08-10-2007, 04:14 AM
This is indeed a good match. Since Mirage is Clausian, and thusly, more powerful than a human, I'll go with her.

Though, if she were human, I would have no idea who would win.

6thEspada
08-10-2007, 05:09 AM
ao kiji wouldnt be an admiral for no reason so i dont think luffy is up to par with him just yet he's getting there though and disvocering gear 2nd and 3rd was all but the first step into being able to defeat ao kiji and also i agree with 'kenicchi' what if ao kiji can go absolute zero?....well then that just means luffy's toast and done for but we'll see as unexpected as one piece is you never know maybe the kaizoku king got a trick up his sleeve or a ace in the hole

hamano_amon
08-10-2007, 02:18 PM
renji
http://xh.ferventfire.org/xh/pic/images/renji_bankai.jpg

VS

zoro
http://elbakin.net/fantasy/heros_semaines/img/zorro.jpg

lets suppose that zoro can see him meanwhile bear his reatzu,
it's a sword VS sword(s),shinigami vs human(special) singal content.
could renji's zabimaru resist zoro's i dou riu?or would zoro's body stand renji's bankai?
...always a sweet thing to cross.

h3h3h3
08-10-2007, 04:37 PM
Sucked!

h3h3h3
08-10-2007, 04:38 PM
MAtsudaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Neko Bam
08-10-2007, 09:25 PM
So we have SS's noble and hard-hitting swordfighter vs the genius of the Uchiha-clan and another hard-hitting swordsman. We are talking about the time-skip Itachi here, but he has his ANBU equipement (and thus a sword). Kisame's Samehada may not eat spirit energy. Which team will win this? I think team Bleach, since I think eyepatchless Kenpachi may be too much for Kisame to handle, and Byakuya's ranged bankai can make sure that he doesn't need to get close to Itachi and thus he can avoid eye-contact.

h3h3h3
08-10-2007, 11:45 PM
Lol Hitsugaya would beat both of these guys. Dumb topic.

Ichi-Zoro 3
08-11-2007, 01:40 AM
I don't think luffy can beat ao kiji only by using 2nd and 3rd gear. It'll take too long for luffy's steam to melt those ice.. There must be more powers and abilities that he should learn to beat an admiral

FullMetal Rebel
08-11-2007, 02:09 AM
Tobi and Pain would be a fairer fight,but anyway the Bleach side wins.They both could handle King overrated,Zaraki Kenpachi though 1 on 1.

tsekatsu
08-11-2007, 02:16 AM
bleach would pwn them all the way

Decado
08-11-2007, 03:39 AM
/moved to Anime Arena

Ryuzaki
08-11-2007, 05:34 AM
If it's Sarutobi while in his Prime, I would think that itachi would still beat him, but would have had a lot trouble defeating Sarutobi.

We know that Orochimaru beat Sarutobi, and Itachi can beat Orochimaru, but like Draffut said, Sautobi was much much stronger in his prime then when Orochimaru faced him. If the strength stats are correct, then Itachi should barely pull out a vistory, the reason why I say this is because of Itachi's Mangekyou Sharingan.

But I do have to give Sarutobi a lot of kudos because if he is going to fight Itachi, then he won't only fight for himself, but probably for the whole Leaf Villiage like he did against Orochimaru, which made him go beyond his abilities to fight even better. If this happened then who knows what the outcome would be in the battle, especially while in his prime.

_Ink
08-11-2007, 05:40 AM
RULE NO F*CKING 5 IN RULES OF THE INTERNET.
DON'T ARGUE WITH TROLLS, YOU FAIL and THEY WIN.

referring to post above.

also take note rule 7:
All your carefully picked arguments can be fully dismissed and ignored.

_Ink
08-11-2007, 05:50 AM
Well... that sounds dumb, both are supernatural.
It is not at all Godlike for bleach, they can move in Shunpo, as with claymores, they can move that fast almost all the time, Miria can easily excel at speed.

Plus, claymores are adept at learning, as long as in the right environment, they practically can defeat any bleach character, perhaps not the espadas, but generally, they are damn powerful.

Plus, Teresa is a natural swordswoman as compared with Ichigo's skill-less blundering.

99wattr89
08-11-2007, 12:36 PM
I think that Sarutobi would win, but it would be a great battle.
But Sarutobi as he was when he fought Orochimaru would lose I'm sure.

99wattr89
08-11-2007, 12:52 PM
Aizen would crush any ninja like a bug, he's on a different level.
Itachi would pass out just from his reiatsu, since he's just a normal human.

Ichigo NR
08-11-2007, 01:00 PM
Light from Death note?
...or do you mean Krad?
Sorry .. Yeah Krad
and Dark Mousy ..

99wattr89
08-11-2007, 01:05 PM
Wow! This is a fun battle!
I think that Zoro could beat Renji at Shikai without having to go all out and would force him to use Bankai to win.
I think that if Zoro used his full strength he could probably block most of the force of normal attacks from Renji's Bankai, but I don't think he could last long against it.
I don't think even Zoro can survive a 'Baboon Bone Cannon' (I can't remember the Japanese name), but that's assuming Renji got a chance to use it and Zoro didn't dodge it...
I think that to to win Zoro would have to hit Renji with everything he had as soon as he could, but then even that probably wouldn't be enough, since Renji was still able to attack Byakuya after being hit with Senbonzakura Kageyoshi, so he'd have to have enough strength left to finish him off afterwards too.
In my opinion it could go either way, but I'd say that the odds are 70% to 30% in Renji's favour.
But whoever wins, I really want to watch the battle... o.o

99wattr89
08-11-2007, 01:08 PM
I think Byakuya or Zaraki would win alone, neither would need help.
They're just too far beyond normal humans, even Naruto ninja.

99wattr89
08-11-2007, 01:12 PM
Having read Claymore recently I can't say that I think anyone in the manga can stand up to Ichigo when using Bankai.
In my opinion he would be able to beat her in a second.

But that's just my opinion of course.

Draffut
08-11-2007, 03:53 PM
Bleach Pride. According to Enma, SAsrutobi didn't fight full strength against Orochimaru until the very end, becuase he felt it was his own fault that Orochimaru became evil. So until the Death God jutsu, he couldn't bring himself to kill his apprentice.

And regarless, I have still yet to see Itachi do anything to beat Orochimaru's resurrection jutsu. Maybe counter it, but that does ot show his strength overall, just he has a specialty agaisnt Orochimaru that wouldn't work nearly as well on anyone else.

Cleric
08-11-2007, 04:42 PM
Null has finally released V46 of the One Piece manga in it's superb High Quality . . . unfortunately you need IRC to get it . . .

If you don't have IRC you can d/l it here (http://www.mirc.com/get.html)

In addition, Firefox has an extension called Chatzilla (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/16) that works just as well ^_^

#Null: irc://irc.irchighway.net/null (irc://irc.irchighway.net/null)

/msg Manga|Pandaman xdcc send #204
/msg Manga|Kenji xdcc send #298

Lelouch
08-11-2007, 09:56 PM
/agree Itachi wouldnt beat sarutobi cause he won orochi , and orochi beat sarutobi. Mange+q is strong but it wouldnt work that well on sarutobi imo. sarutobi wins the day.

Kuroi Getsuga Tenshou
08-11-2007, 11:40 PM
DAMMIT!! I don't have IRC!!! *cries*

KholdStare
08-12-2007, 08:18 AM
I agree, Sarutobi was extremely powerful in his prime. His animal summon Enma was very powerful as it was able to fight both the previous Hokages simultaneously.

I don't quite understand, it seems like most people are saying Sarutobi or Itachi with difficulty but "Itachi as a clear winner" has 3 votes and Itachi as a winner has 6 votes.

hamano_amon
08-12-2007, 01:41 PM
www.oofuri.com/

just wanna know how many oofuri fans here?
i never play base ball,but im quite attracted to it.every time i watch the epid i feel like im injected with pep,it's full of sunshine...

Neko Bam
08-12-2007, 05:33 PM
what you guys forgot is that even 30% Kisame can spit out an entire lake, and Itachi has the Mangekyou Sharingan. I still believe team bleach would win, but it wouldn't be an easy victory

Ryuzaki
08-13-2007, 12:10 AM
Bleach Pride. According to Enma, SAsrutobi didn't fight full strength against Orochimaru until the very end, becuase he felt it was his own fault that Orochimaru became evil. So until the Death God jutsu, he couldn't bring himself to kill his apprentice.
And regarless, I have still yet to see Itachi do anything to beat Orochimaru's resurrection jutsu. Maybe counter it, but that does ot show his strength overall, just he has a specialty agaisnt Orochimaru that wouldn't work nearly as well on anyone else.

I havn't found that quote yet by Enma in the anime. Is it in the manga?

But I believe you anyways. Okay so if Sarutobi fought against Orochimaru at full strength from the start, then the match would probably end up a tie even with the summoning jutsu?

But to the Itachi vs. Sarutobi match, is it true that the same method that Itachi would use on Orochimaru to defeat him wouldn't work as well on Sarutobu in his prime(for reasons I don't know).

After all this talk though, I think it would be a tie between them. But I havn't read the manga to know enough about Itachi's true stength.

99wattr89
08-13-2007, 01:19 AM
what you guys forgot is that even 30% Kisame can spit out an entire lake, and Itachi has the Mangekyou Sharingan. I still believe team bleach would win, but it wouldn't be an easy victory
I didn't forget what their abilities are.
I just know what Byakuya and Zaraki's abilities are too.
Like I said, Zaraki or Byakuya could kill those two in a heartbeat.

mangaman16
08-13-2007, 01:21 AM
If itachi has any unseen jutsus they haven't been shown in the manga yet either so i guess you could base this battle off of the anime itachi.Sarutobi semed to know alot of jutsus and besides as hokage he must probally knowalot about bloodline abilities and how to fight them and how to fight gen jutsus so sarutobi could win.

sana44
08-13-2007, 03:52 AM
I'd have to say ichigo cuz Inu Yasha's tesaiga or whatever only works when he's protecting, or fighting a demon, not a soul reaper.

sana44
08-13-2007, 03:56 AM
I'd say Hitsugaya cuz to tell the truth, Hiei doesn't have verry good spirit powers.

drzjthan
08-13-2007, 03:58 AM
Ichigo will rip him...not even goin vizard just bankai,his high rietsu prevents alot of damage

this is like Goku(dbz)which is like the strongets anime character period vs. Hanataro
lol....and thats a sorry fite

i take bak wat i said Ichigo will win using his human body w/o goin shinigami...lol

sana44
08-13-2007, 03:59 AM
Who would win in an all karate fight match between Robin and Akito with no weapons?

Bamboobie
08-13-2007, 04:56 AM
At first glance, I voted for Itachi. But after carefully considering it and remembering Sarutobi's power, I have decided it would be a draw.

Sarutobi was known as "The Professor" for knowing so many jutsu's. This is incredible seeing as he doesn't possess the sharigan. Sarutobi also knows some forbidden jutsus.

Itachi probably knows many jutsu aswell. He has his Mangekyou Sharingan with its powerful genjutsu. But he gets fatigued when he uses it. All of Sarutobi's moves will be very slow to Itachi, an effect of the sharingan. Itachi could read any hand signs no matter how fast. He could analyze the attacks of Sarutobi and develop some sort of plan.

It sounds like Itachi would win, but I'm sure Sarutobi knows some sort of 'secrets' to deal with the sharingan.

FullMetal Rebel
08-13-2007, 10:21 PM
I think Renji would get the upper hand with his bankai.

Ripmaw
08-14-2007, 03:16 AM
I'm still leaning towards Itachi though... Through analysis the sharingan is much more powerful than how we've seen it used with Sauske.
He can predict Saurtobi's every move. He'd have a counter before Sarutobi got his moves finished.
Also, The only reason why Sauske had trouble with Naruto is because he had 2 attacks comming at him at the same time. Yes these two are a leauge much lower than Itachi and Sarutobi but the Sharingan still has the same responsibilities. Plus Itachi hasn't really used anything besides Genjutsu and Tsukuyomi. We have still yet to see him use any ninjutsu which we all know he very well has.

Juujika
08-14-2007, 03:38 AM
Sarutobi didn't fare that well against Orochimaru... and Itachi is suppose to be stronger than Orochimaru.... I'm leaning towards Itachi on this one.
the 3rd hokage could have easily killed Orochimaru in his prime. Plain and simple, Orochimaru was in his 50s with a new body fighting against the 3rd hokage would would most likely be 70-80 if not turning 90.

Soo 3rd > Orochimaru in his prime.. Did you not see the flash back we're the 3rds staff said he should have killed him back then before he got too old?

Setsuna Ai
08-14-2007, 04:08 AM
Alright both were #1 claymores at a certain point in time and it's been implied that Raphaela has a huge amount of strength. Who will win?

I say Raphaela since she's good at hiding her yoki, messing Teresa up with her yoki flow reading.

Draffut
08-14-2007, 07:52 AM
At first glance, I voted for Itachi. But after carefully considering it and remembering Sarutobi's power, I have decided it would be a draw.

Sarutobi was known as "The Professor" for knowing so many jutsu's. This is incredible seeing as he doesn't possess the sharigan. Sarutobi also knows some forbidden jutsus.

Itachi probably knows many jutsu aswell. He has his Mangekyou Sharingan with its powerful genjutsu. But he gets fatigued when he uses it. All of Sarutobi's moves will be very slow to Itachi, an effect of the sharingan. Itachi could read any hand signs no matter how fast. He could analyze the attacks of Sarutobi and develop some sort of plan.

It sounds like Itachi would win, but I'm sure Sarutobi knows some sort of 'secrets' to deal with the sharingan.

To be known as the "God of Shinobi" During the Sharingan's hayday, I am sure SArutobi knows lots of ways to ick a sharingan's ass. Counting out the "gain whatever ability i need whenever i need it for no reason" part of the Sharingan.

silverwolf801
08-14-2007, 10:49 AM
I think that Itachi would beat because he has the Makwahtever plus he has kisame his partner. Plus he is hella smart and always thinks things through

KholdStare
08-14-2007, 10:52 AM
I think that Itachi would beat because he has the Makwahtever plus he has kisame his partner. Plus he is hella smart and always thinks things through

Kisame wouldn't be in this fight.. since it is Sarutobi vs Itachi. Sarutobi is no less intelligent that Itachi. In fact, due to his experience and wisdom I would feel that he would have the upper hand.

Bankai_Zangetsu
08-14-2007, 01:43 PM
i really do think sarutobi would win because in his prime days the uchiha clan was still around ... so why wouldnt an uchiha have been elected hokage over him. sarutobi was a pimp and a ninja at his level im sureis fully capable of dealing wiht teh sharigan.

Kiyone TB
08-14-2007, 02:31 PM
I choose Itachi but I choose Sarutobi too ! But at least Itachi will win and Sarutobi
can died because heart attack *maybe* in the middle of fight . Cuz Heart Attack can affect old people -_-

KholdStare
08-14-2007, 03:26 PM
I choose Itachi but I choose Sarutobi too ! But at least Itachi will win and Sarutobi
can died because heart attack *maybe* in the middle of fight . Cuz Heart Attack can affect old people -_-

Sigh, I don't know how many times this must be repeated. This is a fight between Itachi and Sarutobi in his PRIME, meaning when he was not old.

dawin45
08-14-2007, 11:18 PM
renji would own this only if zorro uses a slow speed...than renji, and if zorro wouldn't believe in guys with red hair that got a big bone sword/zanpaktou/katana that is in bankai...

Silhouette
08-15-2007, 01:16 AM
lol? No, he can just turn people to ashes in seconds. Nope, no good spirit powers there.. *smacks*

UGH! I need to be a mod of this section...

99wattr89
08-15-2007, 02:43 AM
Could you remind me who Raphaela was? Or if you could point me to the volume(s) she was in I can just go over them again to refresh my memory... *sweat*

99wattr89
08-15-2007, 02:48 AM
Ichigo would be like god to Naruto.
No Naruto character has any hope of beating Ichigo. Ever.

99wattr89
08-15-2007, 02:52 AM
Mihawk would take them both out even if it was a 2v1 battle.
Kenshin shouldn't even be compared to these guys to begin with.

I've seen all the non-filler Kenshin episodes and read all of One Piece, and Kenshin has never shown even one tenth of the power of Zoro.
And Zoro is strong, but not at Mihawk's level yet.

Bamboobie
08-15-2007, 03:38 AM
i really do think sarutobi would win because in his prime days the uchiha clan was still around ... so why wouldnt an uchiha have been elected hokage over him. sarutobi was a pimp and a ninja at his level im sureis fully capable of dealing wiht teh sharigan.

Well, you can't really say that because the Uchihas were busy running the police station (something like that) they owned. And judging by the flash backs in the anime, the Uchihas don't look like they care about anyone but themselves. The hokage would have to care about his whole village.

Setsuna Ai
08-15-2007, 10:57 AM
In the anime she's the current #5 in claymores.

She was former #1/2 with her sister, Luciela. Feeling guilt over the "accident" which occurred while awakening Luciela, Raphaela served the organization by doing stealth missions due to her remarkable ability of hiding yoki

99wattr89
08-15-2007, 11:02 AM
Oh, her.

I think Teresa would win against her.
Hiding Yoki is useful, but to fight at full power she would have to release her Yoki, not hide it.

Setsuna Ai
08-15-2007, 11:17 AM
I think it was implied before she can fight without even expending that much Yoki if any at all, even Irene simply gave up whereas she had hope against Teresa. But I also think you have a point with Teresa, seeing as how she has no problem fighting without releasing yoki either.

Think of it the way Clare fights now, in the manga. After the time skip she doesn't even release yoki while doing the flashsword.

Seff vi Britannia
08-15-2007, 08:35 PM
Ok, my two favourite summons >___>


Adramelech (final fantasy twelve) against
Bahamut (use the final fantasy ten version)


Both are quite similar, dragon-esque monsters. Adramelech has a thunder edge to his attacks, but is capaqble of non-elemental attacks (shock) and physical attacks.

Overdrive/limit break moves:

Bahamut - Megaflare - basically a superheated energy beam
Adramelech - Judgement bolt - essentially a giant lightning lance.


vote now :)


NOTE: Bahamut cannot "evolve" to either Neo-Bahamut or Bahamut-ZERO, or Bahamut-sin (advent children version)

enchidna_happ
08-15-2007, 10:17 PM
Renji wins because his sword has a monkey with a snake on his butt!

Edgey
08-15-2007, 10:18 PM
Ichigo would pwn Naruto so bad, all NAruto has as a decent weapon is Kage Bunshin's and Rasengan, whereas Ichigo has a giant sword, Bankai, Vaizard Form and Getsuga Tenshou Zangetsu or whatever the hell it's called.

In conclusion...Ichigo wins.

dawin45
08-15-2007, 10:18 PM
Ichigo has 2 say only one word and he is a GOD!(bankai)
If he sais that he is unstopable by tensa-zangetsu, no ninja kid could ever stop those swords, and as we seen in the series, he is getting more and more powerfull as the story evolves, no one could stop him in my point of view, not even naruto,but naruto fans would say the oposite,well we will never know until Tike Kubo talks to Masashi Kishimoto, or Yuuto Date talks to Noriyuki Abe and make an epic episode in wich both worlds and characters are included, might be if aizen does manage to destroy seretei, might open a worp gate between those worlds...(thanks vikipedia again) (I don't watch or read naruto, but I know of it's existence)

FullMetal Rebel
08-15-2007, 10:20 PM
Bahamut.

He's the icon for FF summons,and he is was The Dragon King in FF1.The King of The Moon too in FFIV.

Edgey
08-15-2007, 10:21 PM
^ Don't make random posts with no meaning.

Hmm, I think that Renji would win but only because he has Bankai and I don't think that Zorro could really compete against that, but still Zorro is a fantastic sword master so if Renji was only using shikai then Zorro would win.

mikittykawaii
08-15-2007, 10:28 PM
Well the graphic wasn't all that great but it was kinda funny.

I asked him if he ever slept. He just replied "O___O" I guess that means "does it look like I sleep?".

Thanks for sharing anyway. It relieved my silliness.

Silhouette
08-15-2007, 10:34 PM
Psh. There's always a summon or two out there that surpass him though, despite him being the "king".

- FFVIII: Eden, Tiamat
- FFX: Anima, Magus Sisters

Anyway, the FFXII summons are actually creatures created by the gods. Their power range is between basic beast (Baalial), to godly (Zodiark).

Good ol' Adra (my Zodiac symbol), is in the middle I think. He's a king himself, ruling over the netherworld or something like that.. before he was raped by the gods for betraying them and all..

Anyway, my vote's for Adra, unless Bahamut lands both hits from his Mega Flare. In which case, Adra might be defeated. I haven't seen Judgement Bolt in ages, so I don't remember how it strikes..

A draw at the least.


{edit}For reference.

Judgement Bolt (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r_FTMvkxbU&mode=related&search=)

Mega Flare (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ7lX7OsMFo)


Adra is definately faster, which could come in handy for him.

Vaizard
08-15-2007, 10:47 PM
It's most certainly obvious that Team Bleach wins , with just Byakuya's Shikai , he could kill both of them! Clones would be a bit of a problem but you see , his shikai ( Senbonzakura ) could kill all the clones and Itachi and Kisame
Kenpachi would not have to do anything , but he would get in the way ... so thats a problem...

silverwolf801
08-15-2007, 10:48 PM
Adramelech definetley especially if the two fought in his area becuase with the on coming enemies of zombie things that never stop popping out of the ground. And plus Adramelech has a barrier that turns all attacks to 0 damage

Gettles
08-15-2007, 11:47 PM
Which version of Bahamut? Quasi-worthless one from FF10? FF9 FMV Bahamut? FF4 guaranteed max damage Bahamut?

FullMetal Rebel
08-16-2007, 01:59 AM
I didn't know Adramelech was strong,since the FFXII summons suck.Only thing cool about FFXII summons are that some of them are the main antagonist from the earlier Final Fantasys.

Regardless I choose Bahamut.All hail the King!

Seff vi Britannia
08-16-2007, 07:51 AM
Which version of Bahamut? Quasi-worthless one from FF10? FF9 FMV Bahamut? FF4 guaranteed max damage Bahamut?

The basic Bahamut, ie, the one in FFX. (and possibly others - can't remember from the top of my head.)

And Bahamut isn't "the king", there are a great deal many more summons that are more powerful than him from several versions of games.

Anima, Magnus Sisters, Yojimbo, Ultima, Zodiark, probably Chaos, maybe Shumihaza.

And those are from just two games.

Judgement bolt involves Adramelech flying into the stratosphere and causing several small lightning bolts to hit the area around the target, followed by a massive one.


@ Silverwolf - yeah thats true, Adramelech has the paling. But they would be fighting in neutral ground so no zombies. Beside,s the zombies aren't that tough... hasted zodiac spear + black mask = byebye zombies.

Bladecatcher
08-16-2007, 08:12 AM
d00d, Bahamut.
--is, was, always will be my favorite summon, since i was freaking 7, which was 10 years ago.
and hmmm, maybe they are quite similar because one was based off the other. just a thought.

Seff vi Britannia
08-16-2007, 09:15 AM
Aye, Adramelech is based from Bahamut.

(why they took summons out and replaced them with espers is beyond me.. apart from Mateus, Adramelech, and Ultima, they all look crap >_<)

Gettles
08-16-2007, 09:37 AM
Aye, Adramelech is based from Bahamut.

(why they took summons out and replaced them with espers is beyond me.. apart from Mateus, Adramelech, and Ultima, they all look crap >_<)

Hell, I'm still pissed off at FFX for dropping Odin for fucking Yamoto.

Glitch
08-16-2007, 09:47 AM
And Bahamut isn't "the king", there are a great deal many more summons that are more powerful than him from several versions of games.

Actually he is, his title being the "King of Dragons" and "King of the sky".

Silhouette
08-16-2007, 12:57 PM
(( It SAYS FFX Bahamut in the first post... >.> ))

It doesn't matter if he's a king or not. Adra is ALSO a king; King of the Netherworld. And if you're going to keep bringing that king crap up, then Adra gets his endless legion of Zombies.

Whether or not you think the FFXII summons suck, is not the point of the battle. Neither is it, "ZOMG! Bahamut is cooler! He wins!"

One is a dragon. The other is a godly dragon... made by the gods, that is the lord of the Netherworld, with an endless supply of undead allies.

Adra is faster than FFX Bahamut, its obvious. Mega Flare is easily avoidable, due to the time it takes to summon. Its two hits, one that shoots towards the target, then another from above. Both avoidable.

Judgement Bolt, though it takes a bit to summon also, is a lightning strike; Much faster.

At the very least, it'd be a draw. But Adra has this fight.

*stops posting here* >.>

Ripmaw
08-16-2007, 11:47 PM
You also have to remember that there were only 3 ppl with the ultimate sharingan and we don't know what happened to the third guy

except for that tobi has his eye

Silhouette
08-17-2007, 12:52 AM
No, Byakuya's the type to sit back and watch. Zaraki would do the fighting, and if he just so happens to slip of for an instant. . .Itachi and Kisame are dead. Byakuya would slit their throats before they even realize that Zaraki was just playing with them.

Like how Ichigo fought Renji the first time, and was focusing on only Renji. Byakuya broke his sword without Ichigo even realizing it.

Draffut
08-17-2007, 12:53 AM
Why do people keep saying this. there were only 2. Sasuke would have made 3.

Jay3205
08-17-2007, 02:25 AM
Ichigo has 2 say only one word and he is a GOD!(bankai)
If he sais that he is unstopable by tensa-zangetsu, no ninja kid could ever stop those swords, and as we seen in the series, he is getting more and more powerfull as the story evolves,Ichigo is far from "god" status when he goes bankai. He isn't even high captain status, and he still gets pwned when in bankai by non-high tier opponents. In fact, Ichigo has not yet truly "beat" any major opponent while using bankai.

Ichigo in bankai is faster than Naruto, but that's about the only advantage he has. If Naruto were to somehow get past 1-2 tails, his healing would be a major problem. Any higher than that, and Ichigo may not even be able to scratch Naruto due to the chakra shield. Keep in mind that a diamond-cutting sword could not even cut Naruto when Naruto had less than half of his full Kyuubi strength. Naruto can level a forest with his hidden strength. Ichigo can't. Kage bunshin 3T Naruto would severely beat Ichigo, bankai or not.

4T+ Naruto > 3T Naruto >= bankai Ichigo > shikai Ichigo >= 2T Naruto

Silhouette
08-17-2007, 02:44 AM
Yeah, um. No chakra fields, since reiatsu is thrown out in these cases.

Anyway. . .

Stop. Making. This. Thread.

# of Naruto vs Ichigo threads? 10. [/exaggeration]

We all know that diehard Naruto fans will vote for Naruto to win no matter what. Same goes for Ichigo fans. There are the few that can admit that their beloved character is capable of losing, but that's rare..

In short. Why is this thread still going? -_-"

FullMetal Rebel
08-17-2007, 03:23 AM
There's a thread for this on every anime forum imaginable>.>

Juujika
08-18-2007, 12:31 AM
A brillant chapter i must say so! I'm really loving One piece more and more.

http://rapidshare.com/files/49642890/One_Piece_467_by_Makhan.rar

The quality of this is about LQ/MQ (which means low quality/medium quality, i think its more MQ then anything else)

Cleric
08-18-2007, 01:41 AM
It's interesting that Zoro still keeps Yubashiri despite the fact it was broken . . . Maybe he intends to use it in some way or maybe even give it back to the store clerk in Loguetown . . .

Thanks for the scan . . . I can't wait for the HQ from Franky House . . . and eventually the Super HQ Volume scan from NULL ^_^ V,,

Vaizard
08-18-2007, 04:34 AM
Obviously ... Ichigo I mean look at the things , bladed/range/ not really chakra/reiatsu , but ichigo would win because when naruto uses kage bunzhin , ichigo " GETSUGA TENSHOU! " all gone

Vaizard
08-18-2007, 04:36 AM
Wow! This is a fun battle!
I think that Zoro could beat Renji at Shikai without having to go all out and would force him to use Bankai to win.
I think that if Zoro used his full strength he could probably block most of the force of normal attacks from Renji's Bankai, but I don't think he could last long against it.
I don't think even Zoro can survive a 'Baboon Bone Cannon' (I can't remember the Japanese name), but that's assuming Renji got a chance to use it and Zoro didn't dodge it...
I think that to to win Zoro would have to hit Renji with everything he had as soon as he could, but then even that probably wouldn't be enough, since Renji was still able to attack Byakuya after being hit with Senbonzakura Kageyoshi, so he'd have to have enough strength left to finish him off afterwards too.
In my opinion it could go either way, but I'd say that the odds are 70% to 30% in Renji's favour.
But whoever wins, I really want to watch the battle... o.o
YAH I AGREE! ZORO WOULD NEED TO GET REALLY CLOSE , BUT Renji could own from far range, ( Shikai ) if shikai didnt work , he could go all out ( BanKai ) and finish up with baboon beam cannon or just attack with the king :P

Vaizard
08-18-2007, 04:41 AM
I would prefer Hiei as well , Hiei could own , I mean , anyone ever play Anime Fight on WC3 TFT ? ya he owns in it , His dragon is so cool.. also ... I prefer the Dragon of Darkness ,.. But Hyourinmaru is also cool..

Vaizard
08-18-2007, 04:44 AM
Obviously , Grimmjow with ease , :P Grimmjows , ya saw what Ichigo's Getsuga did to em? Yah , Grimmjow

Vaizard
08-18-2007, 04:49 AM
Aizen
Definietly , Aizen , after all , he is the most feared person in Soul Society , and his reiatsu is so strong , maybe Itachi will pass out, either way , its a easy win for Aizen
Aizen

Vaizard
08-18-2007, 04:56 AM
This would be , Joker , Obviously , but Joker is from Batman isnt he ? XD

Vaizard
08-18-2007, 04:58 AM
Draw , their evenly matched
PS , Shino's last name is Aburame

Vaizard
08-18-2007, 04:59 AM
I'll have to go with Fantastic Four on this one

Vaizard
08-18-2007, 05:01 AM
If Ikkaku used Bankai , he would win , I'm not really sure about Gutts since I dont watch BerSerk , Maybe I will :P

Vaizard
08-18-2007, 05:06 AM
Kenshin , Without a doubt

Vaizard
08-18-2007, 05:18 AM
Ikkaku wins the battle/ shiniest head

Gettles
08-18-2007, 06:24 AM
Guns beat swords.

Midare
08-18-2007, 06:45 AM
Kenshin all the way.... never underestimate the power of the Hiten Mitsurugi Ryuu :p

I mean, in the anime, Kenshin went against a shotgun (well, a Gatling gun in fact)... even when the onniwabanshuu sacrificed themselves as well.
And, in the manga, Kenshin went against a guy with a gun, and beat him.

But as Shinraco said, both are pacifists... but if Kenshin goes into Battousai mode, there's no chance to Vash XD

Gettles
08-18-2007, 09:56 AM
Kenshin all the way.... never underestimate the power of the Hiten Mitsurugi Ryuu :p

I mean, in the anime, Kenshin went against a shotgun (well, a Gatling gun in fact)... even when the onniwabanshuu sacrificed themselves as well.
And, in the manga, Kenshin went against a guy with a gun, and beat him.

But as Shinraco said, both are pacifists... but if Kenshin goes into Battousai mode, there's no chance to Vash XD

The only reason Kenshin survived the Gatling gun was because that short Oniwaban used one of his pellet things to jam the chain and prevent the gun from firing.
Either way, Vash is a whole different level than any gunman in Kenshin.

Esedess
08-18-2007, 01:29 PM
I wonder..

Ulquiorra is very fast but so is Roy, discuss.

Decado
08-18-2007, 01:32 PM
Ulquiorra.

Basically any bleach character would top a FMA character. Remember, Ulquiorra still has a CERO, his RELEASE, and
a Grand Ray CERO

not to mention the amount of power he took from Ichigo's Getsuga Tenshou while Ichigo was in Vaizard - and he still wasn't hurt in the slightest bit

Kenta
08-18-2007, 01:38 PM
The wind caused by Ulquiorra's equivalent of shunpo is enough to knock Mr. Mustang off his feet. A flick of a finger is enough to send him crashing through buildings. Basically, no contest.

99wattr89
08-18-2007, 01:47 PM
YAH I AGREE! ZORO WOULD NEED TO GET REALLY CLOSE , BUT Renji could own from far range, ( Shikai ) if shikai didnt work , he could go all out ( BanKai ) and finish up with baboon beam cannon or just attack with the king :P
Uh, what king? o.O

99wattr89
08-18-2007, 01:49 PM
If Ikkaku used Bankai , he would win , I'm not really sure about Gutts since I dont watch BerSerk , Maybe I will :P
This is manga Guts though, he's a lot stronger than anime Guts.
Go read the manga! You'll love it!

99wattr89
08-18-2007, 02:06 PM
Is this a joke? o.o
Roy can't even hurt Ulquiorra.

Ulquiorra can singlehandedly defeat every single FMA character at once.

Decado
08-18-2007, 02:08 PM
Sweet Lord I just realised why this may have been created.

This is most probably due to the anime ....they've destroyed Ulquiorra's reputation -.-


Any manga reader here would know:
Ulquiorra can singlehandedly defeat every single FMA character at once.
in his sleep.

99wattr89
08-18-2007, 02:09 PM
If it's Vash from the manga, then Vash wins without trying.

Anime Vash would still win, but he'd actually have to try.

99wattr89
08-18-2007, 02:11 PM
Ikkaku wins the battle of shiny heads.

But Nappa is stronger.
DBZ powerlevels are just ridiculous...

Decado
08-18-2007, 02:17 PM
^ Tien is stronger than Nappa.

Nappa finished the series with a power level of 4500 max. Goku at 5000 owned him.

Tien just kept getting stronger, and was in the millions due to the Android training period. He has DBZ abilities and the multiplication ability as well as the power beams.

Ikkaku wouldn't stand 5 seconds against him in bankai. Tien has cheat Flash step too - aka what all DBZ characters have to move.

Tien, as I said before, EASILY wins this battle.


As for the bald heads, I'd go with either Ikkaku or Nappa. The Nappa reference was made during the fight by Piccolo if I recall.

99wattr89
08-18-2007, 02:26 PM
^ Tien is stronger than Nappa.

Nappa finished the series with a power level of 4500 max. Goku at 5000 owned him.

Tien just kept getting stronger, and was in the millions due to the Android training period. He has DBZ abilities and the multiplication ability as well as the power beams.

Ikkaku wouldn't stand 5 seconds against him in bankai. Tien has cheat Flash step too - aka what all DBZ characters have to move.

Tien, as I said before, EASILY wins this battle.


As for the bald heads, I'd go with either Ikkaku or Nappa. The Nappa reference was made during the fight by Piccolo if I recall.
Oh crap! I mixed up Tenshinhan and Chaozu! Dx
Sorry, I should have payed more attention when I read the title/first post...
Tenshinhan would win of course, like you said.

I was reading DBZ just yesterday too... x_x

Juujika
08-18-2007, 04:33 PM
It's interesting that Zoro still keeps Yubashiri despite the fact it was broken . . . Maybe he intends to use it in some way or maybe even give it back to the store clerk in Loguetown . . .

Thanks for the scan . . . I can't wait for the HQ from Franky House . . . and eventually the Super HQ Volume scan from NULL ^_^ V,,
Actually i think he keeps Yubashiri for the fact he used it as a sword and it was given to him. Dont think he'll throw it away just keep it on his person till he gets a new and better 3rd swords then he'll probably store Yubashiri or something.

Cleric
08-18-2007, 05:28 PM
He gets Shuusui from Ryuuma at the end of the chapter so now he has to carry 4 swords around for the rest of the Thriller Bark ark . . . unless he gives Shuusui to Brook, which is highly unlikely . . .

FullMetal Rebel
08-18-2007, 05:57 PM
This is my fav anime/manga series and all.But FMA can't compare to Ulqiuorra,because FMA is even a damn shounen!FMA is for its story,not senseless fights.This thread is void dammnit!!!!!!!!

Esedess
08-18-2007, 06:02 PM
Well, Ulquiorra is fast but Roy can start up a huge fire storm with just a click of his fingers, Ulquiorra will be caught and then he would be fecked!

Tobi
08-18-2007, 07:19 PM
Lawl, Ulquiorra would toy with Mustang, and blow away his attacks.

Pie <3
08-18-2007, 07:29 PM
Well, Ulquiorra is fast but Roy can start up a huge fire storm with just a click of his fingers, Ulquiorra will be caught and then he would be fecked!

His head would be pretty much chopped off before he could do that. :)

silverwolf801
08-18-2007, 07:46 PM
you all are fools Roy would roast Ulqwhatever. he will just stand there and look dumbfounded.

Novoxis
08-18-2007, 08:28 PM
As cool as olde Mustang is, he could just barely beat the fuhrer and was easily gunned down by Archer. Ulquiorra is 1000's of times faster than all the above mentioned and has skin of steel not to mention a blade and a release.

Sorry Roy, just not ur match.

99wattr89
08-18-2007, 08:30 PM
you all are fools Roy would roast Ulqwhatever. he will just stand there and look dumbfounded.
Are you trolling or what? o_O

Seriously, this thread should just be closed, it's more unfair than that Kon vs. Nell thread that somone made...

Jack Swallows
08-18-2007, 08:41 PM
go light go kira...i support you all the way....go light kill them criminals......kill L near and mello. you are the most genius.

Ryohei
08-18-2007, 08:46 PM
Yes I AM !
^ I agree with ya! Go Kira!
Kill the Criminals!

Juujika
08-18-2007, 09:43 PM
He gets Shuusui from Ryuuma at the end of the chapter so now he has to carry 4 swords around for the rest of the Thriller Bark ark . . . unless he gives Shuusui to Brook, which is highly unlikely . . .
he wont give it to Brook, he won it and is his master. I'd like to think of the stronger swords have souls/wills of their own. So yea, he'll carry 4 swords till he reaches the ship.

Esedess
08-18-2007, 11:03 PM
Well i think it would be safe to assume that in a fair fight Ulquiorra would pwn, but if Roy had the element of suprise, at least he would have the upper hand :/

silverwolf801
08-18-2007, 11:07 PM
Well i think it would be safe to assume that in a fair fight Ulquiorra would pwn, but if Roy had the element of suprise, at least he would have the upper hand :/


hahahahahah are you jking because I know that I was jking. Roy can have all the mf elemnts of surprise in the world he still wouldn't be able to touch Ulqwhatever are you slow the man is fast as shit.

Shinkage
08-18-2007, 11:08 PM
I was at first, but once he started to kill innocent people and petty criminals I started to lose respect for him.

adthedon
08-18-2007, 11:22 PM
Ulqiuorra.
no contest :D

granamonkey
08-18-2007, 11:25 PM
I know this is an older Anime, but has anyone watched it? I think its really good, reminds of Cowboy bebop a little bit. I watched the edited version when I was a kid (like 8 or 9) because it use to be on Toonami on cartoon network. I recently remembered it and looked it up. Its only 26 episodes, but its awesome I think. This show helped me get into anime, along w/ DBZ, gundam (wing and 8th MS team), and Escaflowne (before it got cancled on TV here). The Story in Outlaw star (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outlaw_Star) is good also, and the main character is really cool.

Esedess
08-18-2007, 11:26 PM
I am willing to argue this untill the cows come home mainly because Roy is one of my favorite anime characters.

But i see that will pe pointless so i will just agree that Ulquiorra would pwn.

Esedess
08-18-2007, 11:29 PM
Kira is too small minded and arrogant, he thinks that if someone had done something bad then he is automatically evil, just because he is in prison does not mean he is pure scum, maybe said person is really innocent and just got framed or had a bad lawer or something it does not matter. The point is, don't judge a book by it's cover.

Livius
08-18-2007, 11:30 PM
Outlaw Star is a great anime.
the characters were great. I have all the episode here on my comp. (With subs of course)

Esedess
08-18-2007, 11:32 PM
Yeah i saw a couple of episodes, good stuff =]

granamonkey
08-18-2007, 11:33 PM
It gets better after the 1st 4 or 5 episodes (once they get the Outlaw Star).

Livius
08-18-2007, 11:37 PM
i really like the final episodes. starting around 23 i think.
that hot springs episode was funny.

Pie <3
08-18-2007, 11:45 PM
God , thats why fanboys and fangirls should die.

They know that their fav chat would be fuckin' owned in seconds , yet they keep on argueing (sp?) because it's their fav char :/

They dont get that , that has nothing to fucking do with the battle.

A WIN IS A WIN. YOUR CHAR DOES NOT GET EXTRA POWERS BECAUSE HE IS YOUR FAV CHAR.

Esedess
08-18-2007, 11:49 PM
Did you even read my last post?

I said im not willing to argue because its pointless and i agreed that Ulquiorra would win.

Pie <3
08-18-2007, 11:51 PM
In what way am I a fanboy?

I don't even watch bleach. (Quit at like 114 or something.)

It's just obvious that Ulq would win because the char powers are way to diff.

Just like comparing DBZ to anything WOULD BE FUCKING STUPID BECAUSE THE ANIME MAKES THE CHARS SUPER FUCKING POWERFUL.

Its like " HEY GUYS PIKACHU vs GOKU WHO WUD WINZ !:PO!@K#OP!@?!!!11"

So **** off *****.


Edit: And yes , I saw the post before you edited.

Esedess
08-18-2007, 11:55 PM
Chill man, just chill, i edited my post anyway :/

All's im saying is that Ulquiorra would win no question asked, and that arguing otherwise is like a blunt pencil.. pointless :lol

And, check the gift section!

Esedess
08-19-2007, 12:09 AM
lawl, random and does not fit L's personality very well :/

adthedon
08-19-2007, 01:05 AM
as the title says who would win hmmmmmmm?

Orihime Inoue vs Matsumoto Rangiku

WET T-SHIRT CONTEST!

lol


IMO Matsumoto FTW!


edit: O.o i spelt Orihime wrong in the title

granamonkey
08-19-2007, 01:26 AM
Akutabi Gamma (from Zombie Powder) vs Cloud (from FF7). Who do you think would win? I think Gamma would personally, he could block pretty much anything with that arm of his, and his sword is beastly.

FreedoM
08-19-2007, 01:44 AM
I saw the series when it was on Toonami a while back. It was a pretty good series. I'm on a search to find good links to download the series again, but they're either dead or the speed is insanely slow =X

granamonkey
08-19-2007, 01:45 AM
get veoh, and you can DL all of em off that there, it is insanely fast. Thats what I use to DL most stuff.

Guy
08-19-2007, 01:56 AM
Sweet Lord I just realised why this may have been created.

This is most probably due to the anime ....they've destroyed Ulquiorra's reputation -.-


Oh crap! This can't be true! Ulquiorra is now being compared to Roy Mustang? As much as I love Roy (but I love Ulqy more, lol), Ulquiorra will wtfpwn Roy. Roy, AT MOST, is a human.

Ulquiorra's speed is freakishly superior. Roy won't even be able to see Ulqy's movement. And even if Roy's flames burn Ulquiorra, it would do NO damage whatsoever getsuga tenshou couldn't even hurt him Ulqy's reiatsu>>>>>>Roy.

This thread should be closed, and to hell with the fillers!

granamonkey
08-19-2007, 02:24 AM
ulq > Roy, even though Roy is cooler haha. Dont compare super-human ppl to human ppl, it makes no sense...

Velham
08-19-2007, 03:16 AM
I saw a few eps and i like it a lot so far.

Vlad
08-19-2007, 05:28 AM
I like that anime. I have all the episodes on my computer.
That hot spring episode is priceless.

SLVR
08-19-2007, 05:36 AM
My personal favorite anime. I have the DVD's. It really got me into dubbed anime in 99. Before that I always bought imported anime's no dubbes. But hearing it along with other anime dubs was cool.

Vaizard
08-19-2007, 06:22 AM
Your favorite main anime characters , battlin' it off , Who will win? Inuyasha and Ichigo ? Two Close range combat masters vs a long range and a close range. Whose team will end up still standing? It is up to you to decide
:Haha It's up to you to decide :Haha
:10: Note that I am looking for replies from every one -_-:10:

XING
08-19-2007, 06:26 AM
sessomaru and byakuya because they are my favorite characters.^_^and because sesshomaru is really strong but he again inuyasha is strong too!i am coonfused i think maybe sesshomaru and byakuya will win.

Vaizard
08-19-2007, 06:27 AM
Ulqiorra is the one , lolz , we arent really sure of his real powers , we dont even know what his released zanpakutou looks like! But FMA is all done ,

Vaizard
08-19-2007, 07:04 AM
Ikkaku wins the battle of shiny heads.

But Nappa is stronger.
DBZ powerlevels are just ridiculous...
YOU ARE ALL REDICULOUS~!!!!!! WE"RE TALKIN IN A FIGHT , A REAL FIGHT , A BRAWL , NOT A DAMN POWER LEVEL FIGHT

Vaizard
08-19-2007, 07:12 AM
Even with the sharingan, Ishida normal form is way too fast for sasuke. Final form is overkill. Naruto and Bleach are worlds apart in terms of power. To our knowledge, Sasuke's strongest attack is the chidori, whereas final form Ishida ripped a bankai in half.
SO WRONG. YOUR FORGETTING , SASUKES STRONGEST ATTACK(S) ARE :
CHIDORI NAGASHI
RAIKARI FLASH
CHIDORI IS THREE YEARS AGO NEWS
EITHER WAY , Ishida wins :P I just said that for kickz

Vaizard
08-19-2007, 07:15 AM
Mr.Satan is the most annoying , Don Kanonji is the stupidist , Satan is the most over-confident , Okay I'm just gonna end this
MR SATAN IS THE MOST ANNOYING IDIOTIC OVER CONFIDENT MORON
....
Man , that felt good:10:

Vaizard
08-19-2007, 07:24 AM
I'll have to go with Light , SORRY FOR THE DARK FANS ><

99wattr89
08-19-2007, 04:13 PM
YOU ARE ALL REDICULOUS~!!!!!! WE"RE TALKIN IN A FIGHT , A REAL FIGHT , A BRAWL , NOT A DAMN POWER LEVEL FIGHT
Uhh, no, we're talking about a fight where everyone uses their powers against eachother...

Please don't spam/flame. :|

Noitora
08-19-2007, 04:27 PM
Tien pwn Ikkaku and Nappa in battle.

Ikkaku has the shiniest head.

OutLawBankai
08-19-2007, 05:14 PM
aye its a g8 anime aint the manga still going /went on more than the anime did?

granamonkey
08-19-2007, 07:15 PM
it says there are only 3 volumes of the manga out on wikipedia, but that it is still going on (says 1997- (blank), so I guess its still going on, but idk.

Harvey Dent
08-19-2007, 07:31 PM
One of the first Anime I had ever watched. I've put it's status as Legendary in my book. Caster's are the coolest fucking weapons ever.

Vaizard
08-19-2007, 07:54 PM
I agree , except Byakuya and Sesshoumaru winning :P
You see , Byakuya vs Ichigo would mean Ichigo wins
then Inuyasha vs Sesshoumaru , Sesshoumaru wins
So Ichigo vs Sesshoumaru ????

granamonkey
08-19-2007, 08:09 PM
Yes, Casters are the coolest weapon EVAR! Awesome, I thought this thread was gonna be full of ppl like, WTF is Outlaw Star!?!? But I guess You all watched it on Toonami/somewhere else back in the 90's also! Any of you guys watched Escaflowne also? that got me into anime has well.

5000
08-19-2007, 08:12 PM
IT`s so so so so awsome!

Kenpachi-Dono
08-19-2007, 08:42 PM
i don't see how people are saying it would have been a draw or itachi would win..look at the limitations of his M. Sharingan....when he used it on Kakashi look at how much of his chakra it drained..when he used it to escape Jariya toad stomach summon..he had to go rest because it drained him...It was said that Sarutobi was the STRONGEST Hokage there ever was..and yes it was said..and to further prove it..he had to be atleast around 80 or 90 when he fought Orochi and the 2 previous Hokages..i mean what more could u ask for..he fought 2 previous hokages at one time and beat them both..everybody is sayin "oh orochi killed him and itachi could beat orochi" blah Sarutobi killed himself with his own jutsu..orochi didn't actually kill him..get the facts str8..and in his prime that fight would have been over in 3 or 4 moves..Sarutobi in his prime would own Itachi without a sweat..simple as that

Silhouette
08-19-2007, 09:36 PM
The winner isn't decided by who your favorite is. Ichigo got lucky when he defeated Byakuya, though he's probably stronger by now.. I don't read the manga, so w/e..

Inuyasha also gets a few lucky wins off of Sesshoumaru, however, Sesshoumaru has defeated him a few times.

Inuyasha is the weakest link here, and Ichigo can't beat both Byakuya and Sesshoumaru, Vizard mode or not. So there you have it. :whatevah:

FullMetal Rebel
08-20-2007, 02:12 AM
I'd have to go with Byakuya and Sesshoumaru.

Inuyasha beats Sesshoumaru every time,because of plot.He has way more strength and skill than Inuyasha.Who just spams Kaze no Kizu.

Ichigo only beat Byakuya thanks to Ogichi.

So its pretty obvious who has the upper hand.

Vaizard
08-20-2007, 04:35 AM
I'd have to go with Byakuya and Sesshoumaru.
Inuyasha beats Sesshoumaru every time,because of plot.He has way more strength and skill than Inuyasha.Who just spams Kaze no Kizu.
Ichigo only beat Byakuya thanks to Ogichi.
So its pretty obvious who has the upper hand.
What's the Ogichi? Anyway , your forgetting! Byakuya is the kind to sit out and watch, and Inuyasha would lose against Sesshoumaru , so Ichigo could beat Sesshoumaru , but Byakuya is the kind to sit out and watch so , yeah

Esca
08-20-2007, 04:38 AM
If we're going with current Manga Ichigo who has just defeated a seemingly high ranked Esada and is fighting a higher ranked Espada, I'll go with him. Inuyasha would be dead weight, though.

Vaizard
08-20-2007, 04:41 AM
Hmm Sesshoumaru wouldnt really be a problem for Ichigo.. but yeah , Inuyasha is like... ummmm I dunno maybe he could handle Byakuya? I dunno..

Esca
08-20-2007, 04:44 AM
He couldn't, it'd be Sesshoumaru and Byakuya vs Ichigo, which at his current level, could beat them fairly easy.

Vaizard
08-20-2007, 04:45 AM
Yeah , but according to Fullmetal Rebel , Ichigo cant handle Byakuya and Sesshoumaru , also Inuyasha could like wound one of them a little maybe.. XD that wouldnt really help :sad

Esca
08-20-2007, 04:48 AM
Fullmetal Rebel should read the manga if he hasn't done so. If Ichigo could defeat the Espada that he fought, he could easily take Byakuya now. And Byakuya > Sesshoumaru, so, that match is over.

Vaizard
08-20-2007, 04:49 AM
Hell ya , Byakuya probably couldnt match a high ranking Espada , though he is the most famous Captain in the Gotei 13

Vaizard
08-20-2007, 04:56 AM
Flash and Quicksilver there really is no contest , Flash is the fastest man alive indeed XD

FullMetal Rebel
08-20-2007, 04:56 AM
Fullmetal Rebel should read the manga if he hasn't done so. If Ichigo could defeat the Espada that he fought, he could easily take Byakuya now. And Byakuya > Sesshoumaru, so, that match is over.


What Grimmow?What does that have to do with anything.Sesshoumaru has Dragon Strike which is miles above whatever Ichigo can pull out of the hat.

You talk as if beating Grimmjow was something big.....................

Vaizard
08-20-2007, 04:58 AM
What Grimmow?What does that have to do with anything.Sesshoumaru has Dragon Strike which is miles above whatever Ichigo can pull out of the hat.
You talk as if beating Grimmjow was something big.....................
Hell yeah beating Grimmjow is big and Dragon Strike? About that you see... Ichigo wouldnt just die from that , and he could dodge it (maybe >< ) with Bankai

Gettles
08-20-2007, 05:46 AM
why can't ichigo win with his bankai. i mean he's really fast in it.

Because if Ichigo is moving at the speed of sound, Flash is going Ludicrous Speed

Vaizard
08-20-2007, 08:37 AM
This is a good battle , a suiton fighter ( Suiton=WaterStyle) against a Katon fighter ( Katon=FireStyle )
So , I'll just put the basics , I made this cause I had nothin to do , also who would win?
Kisame? With his Samehada , could he shred up the mass chakra that Sasuke uses to make Chidori?
Or Sasuke? Wiith his powerful sword?
Think about it, also
:sad Post Reply!! Say your opinions! :sad
-_- Anyway it's a battle in the current ANIME -_- , So... its not really a spoiler and what not , lolz only you got spoiled , no one else.

Bamboobie
08-20-2007, 10:47 AM
I just wanna say, this is the ANIME area. all his other new techniques yet. You just totally spoiled us. This should be in the Naruto section, not the Naruto ANIME section. Thanks.

Samanosuke
08-20-2007, 11:06 AM
lol

Silhouette
08-20-2007, 12:41 PM
Grimmjow is only number six of ten.

Anyway, I don't care how lucky Ichigo gets, he can't beat Byakuya AND Sesshoumaru "easily".

For one, Sesshoumaru can defeat him with one slash, seeing as how Ichigo in Shinigami form is a spirit. Byakuya isn't a push over either.

Seff vi Britannia
08-20-2007, 02:18 PM
Current manga Ichigo would only need bankai to destroy Byakuya and Sesshoumaru. We know that Ichigo beat Byakuya when he hadn''t even mastered his bankai... and it's been proved Ichigo > Sesshoumaru in another thread.

If Ichigo went vaizard then god help the highly overrated (and fanboy-backed) team.

Seff vi Britannia
08-20-2007, 02:23 PM
Are you trolling or what? o_O
Seriously, this thread should just be closed, it's more unfair than that Kon vs. Nell thread that somone made...

xD


Bleach > FMA

Chrono Detector
08-20-2007, 02:54 PM
As much as I like Roy, Ulquiorra would just beat the shit out of Roy instantly. All Roy has is his fire attacks, I think Ulquiorra would just block his flame attacks and finish him off in one blow.

XING
08-20-2007, 06:30 PM
i would say Kenshin

Vaizard
08-20-2007, 07:56 PM
Sigh , I dont really care what you think @Dreamless , cause like , from this point , no one will see the new moves XD cause I edited , so umm.... yeah

Vaizard
08-20-2007, 08:01 PM
Yay!! Finally someone who thinks straight , anyway , Ichigo can handle both of em easily so there you REALLY have right. Right Sessou? XD

Ripmaw
08-20-2007, 08:26 PM
Sauske does have it. He achieved the eyes a different way than his brother.

99wattr89
08-20-2007, 08:34 PM
Sauske does have it. He achieved the eyes a different way than his brother.
No, Sasuke does not have the Mangekyou Sharingan.

Draffut
08-20-2007, 08:55 PM
Sauske does have it. He achieved the eyes a different way than his brother.

Yep, and Konohamaru is the strongest charecter in the seires.

wow.

Seff vi Britannia
08-20-2007, 09:31 PM
Eh, inter-show makes it difficult, so theres an easier way to break this down.

We'll seperate it to bleach versus bleach

and

Inuyasha versus Inuyasha

So then, round one, the bleachies.

Ichigo versus Byakuya. Now, i don't think even a hardcore Byakuya fan such as Guy could argue this any other way. Ichigo, as he is in the manga would tear byakuya apart. Ichigo may have needed Ogichi's intervention on Sougyoku, however, that was due to his bones breaking. He has since learned to control his bankai, and so bankai Ichigo would be enough to take out Byakuya.

Now then, since then; Ichigo has had vaizard, but what i'm looking at here is the fact that he went from getting crushed against Grimm in bankai to fighting him evenley (at least unreleased.) So that shows us that Ichigo's bankai has improved. Now, let's not forget; The mask. Another power boost.

There really cannot be any argument otherwise. You might say Byakuya could fight inuyasha instead, but let's keep it simple and do same-show to start with.

Inuyasha versus Sesshoumaru -

I honestly know nothing about this show. But from what i gather, Sesshoumaru would be the victor in this fight.

So then, Sesshoumaru versus Ichigo.

http://forums.bleachportal.net/showthread.php?t=40085&highlight=Ichigo+v+Sesshoumaru

General concesus?

Ichigo is the victor.

XING
08-21-2007, 02:16 AM
i think sasuke will win

Seff vi Britannia
08-21-2007, 09:42 AM
Er, Vaizard... to my knowledge, Sasuke uses the Chidori, not the Raikiri..

I might be wrong >__>

And the Chidori Nagashi is a situational attack. for sheer damage, a fully landed Chidori would do more damage than the Chidori Nagashi as there is more power in a concentrated area..


Either way, Sasuke would die before h