Prince of Tennis

[Kurita77]

It'll be Homer becuase he is not technically retarded like the others

[FullMetal Rebel]

But like said: Dante wins, but it's not like he's gonna man-up and swordfight with him like a shinigami.

He could dance with Zaraki with any of his weapons, and *Gasp* Sparda Sword.

Im just saying that the guy who made yhis thread is a big Dante fan he has only given reasons how Dante could win cause if I were him I would support both characters not just one.

Is it just me or does this just seem like one big Dante worship thread? Seems like a flame war waiting to happen.

Welcome to the world of debating.

[FullMetal Rebel]

here we go again....

Umm, lets take that to the Division thread,and besides I won't give him free post count again.

Ulqiorra will take Vergil apart =\. While Vergil is indeed very powerful, I doubt his Yamato can even pierce through Ierro, even if Ulqiorra was standing there and not doing anything.


Also, Vergil doesn't have any weapons aside from Yamato - and that sword is certainly not enough to slice through Ulqiorra.

Yamato the sword that can go through most anything, not so sure about that. It has been shown to go through most anything though.

Oooh, he caught bullets with Yamato. Certainly an impressive feat... but both Ulqiorra and Ichigo are WAY FASTER than mere bullets, even those fired from Ebony&Ivory.


This is news to me. Last I checked nobody in Bleach was shown to be as fast as a bullet(Maybe Aizen). Bullets are at least Bala blast speed, which basically means "hollow" bullet. I haven't seen anyone move that fast other than Aizen. Pretty sure Vergil can see him coming, like catching bullets or Vergil battle 3 at mission 20.


Vergil can maybe get him if he cold get him in a sword fight, but Ulquiorra could just Bala him to death, since Vergil heavily lacks in range. I'm going to stay with even till he releases:)

[Tablo.]

Homer just have a crayon stuck on his brain. Take that out and he'll be fine.

Besides, there are (how many episodes does the simpson has?) where Homer gets hurt but then turn out to be fine.

[nx6]

I'm sure they're leaving Inuyasha up, although I agree they should retire it. Nice to see Cowboy Bebop back, but I wont be watching as I, too, already own the whole series on DVD.

Oh, and I think the (english) dub is best as well. There's always a place for subs, I just think there's something wrong with a tall lanky guy like Spike having such a deep voice.

[James Cizuz]

Wrong and wrong. Shinigami can be seen and touched, as says the rules. He can also be cut, as the rules say as well.
I was just stating the fact that Claymore are capable of being wounded by weaklings, so someone as powerful as Ichigo would kill her in a few hits (since he most likely won't go for a one-hit kill shot unless Ogichi mind rapes him).
She, heres the thing. Ichigos reitsu makes his skin stronger then steal. Just as with kenpachi, and since he is much stronger then kenpachi now, obviously his skin is much tougher. Now, I also said "negating the shingamis can not be hurt by mortal objects" it wouldn't matter, the sword would hit him, he would laugh, and probably walk away. Or, chop her head off, either way.

[James Cizuz]

He doesn't need to level a mountain. We know his strength is enough to level mountains and cause tsunamis. I don't know why you compare him to a menos, as all menos do is walk around and shoot ceros. When you say "compared to a menos", exactly what are you comparing? Descriptions of Kyuubi's strength put him far above anything a Bleach character has done. And where do you get that vice captains move at the speed of sound? Aside from shunpo, their natural speed seems to be slower than no-weights Lee.
Point being? The anime is extended to 4 minutes b/c they have a time slot to fill up. The manga represents it more accurately, and there is no hint of them being in any sort of constant mach speed fight. Also, not ALL FIGHTS ARE SLOWED DOWN TO SHOW THE FIGHT. That's just an assumption based on filler animation.

Actually in manga is describes it. So, yeah. You are a fan boy, congratulations.

There are clearly times when characters are using shunpo and times when they aren't. It can easily be known based on the time it takes smoke to clear and the time it takes for them to move away that they are not always in mach speed.
What "amazing" shikai feats does he have? Getsuga tenshou is not nearly enough to level a mountain. Vaizard Ichigo's getsuga tenshou is not nearly enough to level a mountain, and that is his most powerful attack. Given that normal ice attacks from a weak character are shown to be able to hurt an espada, I severely doubt Ulquiorra has a stronger defense than diamond. You've said Ichigo is amazing while Kyuubi is not, but so far the actual feats show that Kyuubi is stronger and has better defense than Ichigo by quite a margin. Being able to run around really fast means nothing if Ichigo can't scratch his opponent. With Kyuubi's large size, it'll only be a matter of time before Ichigo is swatted down like a fly.

I hate fan boys, you know that? You sir are being a fan boy.

You state kyuubi levels a mountain with 1/9th his power. He didn't, then when someone actually calls you on it you say a scapegoat like "WE KNOIS IT CULD MENS, LOOK AT POWERS LSOSLOSLSOSLOSLSOLLLLLL".

You state kyuubi has a high defense. From what we know, most character in bleach, including kyuubi and naruto have NORMAL human skin, that can be CUT with anything. Some instances such as gaara and the iron dude use outside sources to create a shield because of the weakness. So what does this mean? Ichigo, fast, slice, dead naruto.

Hah. Did you even know shunpo is different for everyone? It effects speed by the users ability to use it, as well as his normal speed. Oh, and you actually bring "WELL ANIME NEEDS TO FILL A SLOT, AND WE RELY ON MANGA HUHEUEHUE ANDS MANGA NO SHOW HE FAST:///" The manga describes his speed. It also describes shunpo(which high level users can use non-stop) as "faster then what the eye can see". Or around mach 3, and thats normal sunpo that normal vice captains can do. So, ichigo is what? How many times faster then them, and more skilled at it?

Likewise ichigo uses getsuga tenshoi to cut a... not a mountain but as some manga chapters show, a HUGE ass structure, high as a mountain, just not shaped as one.

By compared to a menos I mean power. The menos cero can level buildings, hills, maybe even a small city/town. As for his speed and thought process that is different. Doesn't negate he is not that fast.

[Silhouette]

No, that's the thing, its also in the rules that Shinigami can be hurt, despite their power.

@War: Um, no. Aizen hasn't been proven to be the strongest. Speculate all you want, but don't try to push it as a fact when you have no evidence.

And I'll remind you that this is Ichigo vs Teresa.

[FullMetal Rebel]

Some of you guys are underestimating the Kyuubi. He can take a lot of more hits than Ichigo,one of the Kyuubi's tails would for sure kill Ichigo. It has been stated that he can level a whole damn mountain,and make tsunami's with one tail.

[Icestorm]

Again, reasons would make everyones argument a lot easier.

Ok the reason I put for it being Ichigo is that in the title you put 'Naruto'. Well since.. at 9 tails level Naruto wouldnt be naruto then this fight is forfeit.. hows that? Naruto would die and be taken over eventually.. if naruto dies due to the high level of stress that his body is put under because of the 9 tails chakra then Ichigo wins doesnt he, since naruto as 9 tails is what we are talking about.

[Miyagi Rikku]

ugh,

http://forums.bleachportal.net/showthread.php?t=41474

[Kuroudo]

It'll be Homer becuase he is not technically retarded like the others

Peter is the better fighter though he fought like crazy with an Bad-Coup Giving chicken hes not that retarded he is just one IQ underneath the requirement for being retarded. Homer Simpson would survive more though.

[Kuroudo]

I'm guessing you mean the Flood from Halo? Hmm...Flood explode when they take control of a body, but RE zombies don't...then again, once the zombies from RE die, they revive as Redheads (super zombies with razor sharp claws). So the fight would come down to this:
Both sides run into each other, the flood winning at first by blowing up half their reinforcements and killing RE zombies, till they revive and become Redheads and killoff whatever's left.
Is that what you were looking for? This is a fight between the flood and RE zombies right?

I meant all types as in this could include the non-zombie parasites the las plagas from Resident Evil 4. however the Flood also has the Juggernaut form (if you dont know what it is just think of it as a giant uber flood) but the zombies also have Tyrant and Nemesis. also Flood and Zombies cant infect each other. 1 because the parasite strengthens the immune system combining it with its own increasing it to become immune to all diseases, Since the zombie has no brain or intellect the Flood sees it as Non-sentient. The gun store contains 4 shot guns and a hell load of hunting rifles and pitsols. and EVERYOne knows that shotgun pwns any type of scary undead/zombie like creature.

[Kuroudo]

No, that's the thing, its also in the rules that Shinigami can be hurt, despite their power.
@War: Um, no. Aizen hasn't been proven to be the strongest. Speculate all you want, but don't try to push it as a fact when you have no evidence.
And I'll remind you that this is Ichigo vs Teresa.

I didnt say he was the strongest i said he was the strongest so far.....This Conversation ends now because its leading off topic.

[Kuroudo]

Yea you choose...

Also- Aizen Sosuke, Gin Ichimaru and Kaname Tousen are not Espada because their not Arrancar.

[Kuroudo]

If this is a serious fight this is how it's gonna go down.
Kenshin Kills Mugen. Ed kills Kenshin or vice versa is doesn't matter cause the both lose to Inuyasha. Then Ichigo annihilates Inuyasha, and Yusuke kill Ichigo.
So Yusuke Wins. Or if you don't want to be complicated about the whole thing, Yusuke Jumps mega high into the Sky and uses his Spirit Wave on every one killing them all in one blast

Yea you forget that Ichigo can fly, but he would slice him down before that even happens hes the fastest character in this battle. Heres what happens or what i think will

Mugen vs Kenshin = Kenshins final move (i forget) pwns him
Inuyasha vs Edward = Edward Blocks with a giant rock barricade but Inuyasha wind scars it to dust
Inuyasha vs Kenshin = This is tough Kenshin is mega faster than Inuyasha but Inuyasha got like 8 moves. well if Kenshin did his final move first Inuyasha would lose. im gonna go ahead and say Inuyasha loses
Yuske vs Kenshin = Yuske spirt guns Kenshin this is probably gonna be a long fight so Yuske wins because hes got more spirt weapons or whatever.
Yuske vs Ichigo = Ichigo goes bankai shunpo's behind Yuske at the same time his arm gets sliced off. end of dat.

[Kuroudo]

It's difficult to say since I've never seen Aizen fight. And yall obviosly forget Orochimaru is one of Naruto's dealiest characters. He has all those justus including the paralysis glare genjutsu and if he really got into trouble he could always summon Mando, plus he has also got the Ordo sword. So he can defend himself against Aizen Zanpachtou. So I'll go against yall and say Orochimaru because he killed Sarutobi and he's a legendary ninja for f%@% sake. Ain't ninjas the maters of deception and cunning? I'd like to see Aizen take hi chances against Hokage Sarutobi.

Watch these videos then come back with a response.

Aizen vs Renji & Ichigo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXCVzlGsZP4

Hitsugaya vs Aizen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPni-qpKw00&mode=related&search=

Dude seriously you should know aizen by know. First off Aizen could Pwn EVERYONE in naruto maybe except if the all the demons attacked him at once. but Aizen's Zanpakuto is Kyokya Suigetsu Basicly it creates an Ultimate Illusion you cant escape from and it lasts for weeks Aizen can create anything within the Illusion it barely takes up his Spirit Energy. Aizen is a master of Kidou, Shunpo, Swordsmanship and usage of Zanpakuto. he can warp behind Orochimaru in 1 second and slice every single limb off. i know Orochimaru is tough with all his jitsus but since it takes like 10 seconds to peform a single one and it takes 1 second for him to slice him into bits with shunpo he wins. if not Black Coffin will destroy him (entraps you into a box and imaples 15 giant spears into it.

[Kuroudo]

Kuichiki Taijo would have trouble at first he would have to go all the way to Sebonzakura Kageyoshi Senkei. He creates about 4,000 Katana-Sized blades surrounding the entire field of battle. im not sure what its real abilties are but i think it increases Byakuyas speed and greatly decreases the enemies. he could also use them to impale Itachis feet then kill him. or Destructive Art 4: White Lightning directed at the heart or head would kill him eaisly

[Kuroudo]

Yea...........................................i seem to make allot of threads now..

[Kuroudo]

Urahara uses Benihime to block Hieis Black Dragon fire attack then just shunpos behind him and stabs him in the back.

[Miss Murder]

I saw an episode of Family Guy and they prooved that Peter was retarded,but he's still a good fighter just like Warcraftian said.

[Kuroudo]

Another Thread by me god note to self: do not post for 2 days!

Okay if you dont know what an Angel is....

they are random gigantic creatures 18 of them i think that nearly-caused the apocolapyse in the 2000-2015 area. they are uber strong the only one not destroyed by the Giant Mechs in that show was destroyed by 99 Non-Nuclear but just as strong bombs. (Its not over kill it survived about 30 of them before it started getting hurt) They also have AT fields basicly they are invisible uber strong shields. they get shot down after being hit with about 45 nukes Sachiels' takes about 2 nukes to destroy it while hiting it simutainously. they also regenerate like hell takes about 3 min to regenerate it self completely. The core is the most unamored part but it is protected deep inside the angel it would take 2 1/2 non-nuke bombs to destory it.

Sachiel the third Angel It is a massive, vaguely humanoid creature with large bony structures on its shoulders and torso, gill-like structures on its legs, tridactyl hands, and a distinctive beaked face/mask (a second mask, behind and slightly to the side of the first one, emerges after an Non-Nuke bomb is dropped on the Angel. It has a powerful long-range energy blast, which distinctly forms a Christian cross on detonation, and two sharp spikes which slide through its arms and extend through holes in its hands as striking weapons (when retracted, the spikes extend from the Angel's elbows). Its core is located prominently on its chest.

http://www.pixelhuset.se/downloads/screen/dtp_sachiel_800.jpg

[Kuroudo]

Okay Eva is like the size of a New york skyscraper. while Gundams are like 1/2 the size of that it would crush them but thats what my brother says. a blast or two from Twin Buster cannon would destroy.

[Kuroudo]

Ok the reason I put for it being Ichigo is that in the title you put 'Naruto'. Well since.. at 9 tails level Naruto wouldnt be naruto then this fight is forfeit.. hows that? Naruto would die and be taken over eventually.. if naruto dies due to the high level of stress that his body is put under because of the 9 tails chakra then Ichigo wins doesnt he, since naruto as 9 tails is what we are talking about.

Wow...That makes sense!!!!

[Kuroudo]

Superman has nearly every single super power you can think of. Super Strength Flight Heat visiion X-ray eyes breathing in space, ablity to move super sized stars. etc Superman should never be in a fight with Ichigo or the thing. more like the godmoding characters like Aizen, Alucard and Goku but i dont like Comic book characters vs anime.

[Undying]

I'd love to know when Chad learned Sonido... :eek13:
He doesn't learn Sonido. However he has a reaction speed that is fast enough to easily keep up with at least captain-class speed.

And note that he doesn't even grow tired, anyway.

Wait 'til you get to the end. Kazuma's full-powered SECOND form, caused a continent to burst upwards. If he went final form, he's MUCH faster and way more powerful.
I will wait and see. But is he faster than Sonido? Doubtful.

[Undying]

Yamato the sword that can go through most anything, not so sure about that. It has been shown to go through most anything though.
Are you saying Kalina Ann, held by a mere human girl, has more blocking power than ULQIORRA? Dude WTF. If Yamato was indeed able to "cut through anything", then it'd easily cut through mere steel. It didn't. Ulqiorra's power allows him much more blocking power than steel held by a human girl.

This is news to me. Last I checked nobody in Bleach was shown to be as fast as a bullet(Maybe Aizen). Bullets are at least Bala blast speed, which basically means "hollow" bullet. I haven't seen anyone move that fast other than Aizen. Pretty sure Vergil can see him coming, like catching bullets or Vergil battle 3 at mission 20.
First of all he didn't actually "catch bullets" with his sword. Watch the cutscene again: Dante fires the bullets towards him and Vergil simply blocks the incoming bullets. He's immobile and it's the same as putting up a shield. He wasn't shown to actually go around, grab Dante's bullets from the air, and toss them back.

Second, are you saying mere BULLETS are faster than Shunpo/Sonido? Dude WTF. No really. Shunpo/Sonido is a lot faster than bullets.

Third, mission twenty is nothing. Whenever you fire at Vergil - and I did that mission 5 times in a row, starting from easy, to normal, to hard, to very hard, to Dante Must Die, and I can promise you that the best "bullet catching" is whenever Vergil is in "block mode": he's reaedy for your attacks and he just reacts once you start moving (much like Jester).

However you CAN easily hit and hurt him with bullets when he's not in block mode. I do it all the time (only way for me to beat Vergil is to stay in the air while he's in Devil Trigger mode... really annoying bastard).

But the point remains that Vergil can't stop bullets unless he's ready for them and is preparing to go on block whenever you move your arms. Otherwise bullets catch him pretty easily.

Vergil can maybe get him if he cold get him in a sword fight, but Ulquiorra could just Bala him to death, since Vergil heavily lacks in range. I'm going to stay with even till he release
Why bother Bala-ing Vergil when Ulqiorra can just Gran Rey Cero him into oblivion? :eek13:

[Kuroudo]

Hmmm... I think Itachi. Ichigo's all very good and powerful with his big bad sword in shikai and his little, fast sword in bankai, I'll acknowledge that. But I think Itachi's just got more abilities overall; Mangekyo isn't the only thing he's got to fight with, remember. He didn't become a member of ANBU as such a young age without reason.

Both of them are kind of prodigies, though. I mean, Itachi with all his Sharingan and ANBU at a young age and Ichigo basically achieving Captain-level power and beyond in a short space of time... I suppose the fight wouldn't be all that easy to decide the outcome of. It just seems to me that Itachi's got more up his sleeve while Ichigo's basically brute strength and speed.

Itachi isnt even close to Captain-class power. hell, Kenpachi and Hitsugaya could take down akakski by them selves! and having more abilties isnt always the winner inuyasha has like 8 moves and ichigo can beat him in like a second. Itachi is about the same speed as him besides if Ichigo goes bankai he would be fast enough to evade eye contact (NOTE: When Itachi uses his finger to do mangekeyou its just regular Genjustu) a Single Getsuga could kill itachi going SHirosaki or vaizard is asking too much and brute strength? no Getsuga Tenshou is the only brute strengh here bankai is all about speed, and even in shikai ichigo can run at least run circles around itachi while leaving 3 after images. if mangeyko can catch ichigo his hollow side would come out and go insane despite being stabbed and everything!


If Ichigo gets tortured over long periods, he would mentally break down= Itachi would have hammered the last nail into his coffin.

Okay Shirosaki dosent give a crap about pain heill just endure it until it stops then heill go crazy and kill him kenpachi would do the same.

[Esca]

Actually, he is. You'll see in the last episode. (Friggin' awesome.)

[Kuroudo]

Can't remember exactly, but I know it's under 20. Watch the OVA's and read the manga.

Seriously? under 20? wow i didnt think i'd find an anime with less episodes than Neon Geneisis Evangelion

[Kuroudo]

Aizen obviously isn't human. And the anime isn't that bad, the manga is superior for sure, but the tv series wasn't that horrible. Not to mention the OVA's are pure win.

He once was. Every single person in Soul Society was once human then they died and became a soul. souls then become Shinigami though the shinigami academy. besides saying that ONLY humans can kill alucard is just like saying only Spirtually aware people can hurt or even see shinigami which is true but its aganist the rules here.

[Kuroudo]

Luffy could just dodge with soru and gum-gum jet gatling gun Ichigo down.

cmon you cant think it would be over that fast he can just shunpo again and again hes breakin bones but hes goin really really fast!

[Gettles]

Peter is the better fighter though he fought like crazy with an Bad-Coup Giving chicken hes not that retarded he is just one IQ underneath the requirement for being retarded. Homer Simpson would survive more though.

Yeah, but Homer can take a punch like nobody's business. And then when his opponent gets tired from too much punching, Homer pushes them over.

[Starlight]

Homer's painkillers can only help him so much. Bobobo wins with the help of Don Patch. Then Bobobo beats up DOn Patch.

[Kurita77]

None of it matters cause when he goes to his 3rd form chad wont be able to touch him

[InsanesnakeShinigami]

lol, the chicken fight pwns all :P

He fights the Chicken 3 different times, and peter wins em all.

[Outlawz]

cmon you cant think it would be over that fast he can just shunpo again and again hes breakin bones but hes goin really really fast!
I doubt you can break the bones of a rubber man. Luffy would just use soru to dodge and us Gear 2 and Gear 3.

[Kuroudo]

Luffy could just dodge with soru and gum-gum jet gatling gun Ichigo down.

cmon you cant think it would be over that fast he can just shunpo again and again hell he can make circles around luffy besides before that would even happen he would just slash luffy into pieces its hard to dodge somthing you cant see.

[Kuroudo]

lol, the chicken fight pwns all :P

He fights the Chicken 3 different times, and peter wins em all.

Its 4 times now

[Kuroudo]

i did not like the bounto arc but Messer's true form would kill naruto. Specifclly for the reason that in its true form it can use lightning, and real lightning the one that can nearly-kill you in one strike. Ichigo was serverely injured when he first got hit.

[Kuroudo]

Alright Adult goku basicly pwns everyone and the only one he dosent totaly destory is aizen but yea hes mega strong. Kid Goku is pretty weak he only knows kameha and can barely fly urahara's got this one.

[Kuroudo]

Let me just say that Mickeys fighting is copied off yodas. but hitsugaya would freeze him in his tracks. as long as their is water Hitsugaya can still regenerate himself. one slash or stab on mickey would freeze him. + he can ice prison and tottaly pwn him. also Hitsugaya has not lost most of his battles.

I know Hitsugaya pretty much loses almost every battle. But against King Mickey, I would be astonished if he lost. All he has to do is freeze him and cut him in half. Simple, no?


Vs Gin Ichimaru = Draw
Vs Aizen = Lost terribly (duh)
Vs Koga = Tottaly uber pwned him
Vs Shawlong = Pwned him when he went serious
Vs That Filler Arrancar with red hair = Pwned him
Vs Luppi = Got injured but defeated luppi in the end but not killed him
Thats 4 wins 1 draw 1 loss.

[Kuroudo]

Okay here is the lineup of whos most powerful in this list 5 being bad 1 being good

1. Aizen (He'd Pretty much beat anybody except Goku and some major DBZ characters)
2. Ichigo
3. Itachi
4. Naruto
5. Mai

[Jay3205]

I hate fan boys, you know that? You sir are being a fan boy.If fanboy means stating facts that are directly stated in the manga, then yes, I am a fanboy.

You state kyuubi levels a mountain with 1/9th his power. He didn't, then when someone actually calls you on it you say a scapegoat like "WE KNOIS IT CULD MENS, LOOK AT POWERS LSOSLOSLSOSLOSLSOLLLLLL".It's stated in the manga (anime at least) that he can level mountains and raise tsunamis with each tail. There's no debate over what it could mean... just purposeful ignorance of valid points against your theory.

You state kyuubi has a high defense. From what we know, most character in bleach, including kyuubi and naruto have NORMAL human skin, that can be CUT with anything. Some instances such as gaara and the iron dude use outside sources to create a shield because of the weakness. So what does this mean? Ichigo, fast, slice, dead naruto.You neglect the fact that 9T Naruto would have a full body chakra shield, much harder than diamond. Ichigo, fast, slice, broken sword, dead Ichigo.

Hah. Did you even know shunpo is different for everyone? It effects speed by the users ability to use it, as well as his normal speed. Oh, and you actually bring "WELL ANIME NEEDS TO FILL A SLOT, AND WE RELY ON MANGA HUHEUEHUE ANDS MANGA NO SHOW HE FAST:///" The manga describes his speed. It also describes shunpo(which high level users can use non-stop) as "faster then what the eye can see". Or around mach 3, and thats normal sunpo that normal vice captains can do. So, ichigo is what? How many times faster then them, and more skilled at it?Wow, you keep stating Ichigo is fast... nobody said he isn't. However, you imply that he is in some type of constant shunpo state while fighting, which there is no basis for besides an extended anime scene, which is not a valid argument. Ichigo dashes at Grimmjaw, attacks, then repeats. The manga shows he's fast, but it nowhere implies he's constantly moving at supersonic speed. When he uses shunpo, it clearly shows it via instantly appearing near Grimmjaw and/or trailing movement lines, and they don't speak full sentences during shunpo.

Likewise ichigo uses getsuga tenshoi to cut a... not a mountain but as some manga chapters show, a HUGE ass structure, high as a mountain, just not shaped as one.Firstly, I have yet to see Ichigo cut down anything as big as a mountain. Anything he has "cut down" was actually just cutting a part of it and having it crumble on itself. Cutting down a "HUGE" structure is not the same as leveling a mountain. By that logic, cutting down a mile high telephone pole is the same as flattening a mile high mountain.

By compared to a menos I mean power. The menos cero can level buildings, hills, maybe even a small city/town. As for his speed and thought process that is different. Doesn't negate he is not that fast.That is not nearly on the level of flattening a mountain using 1 (of 9) tails. Kyuubi doesn't need speed to win... he has far more strength and defense than Ichigo.

[Kenta]

Scanlation out.

http://www.rnbload.com/file/4792/One-Piece-Ch471-LQ-MQ-by-Cowbouy1-zip.html

[SHiKaMaRi]

Ah, I've watched the first ten episodes. It's an interesting show, quite dull at some bits, though. I dropped out of it, doesn't really catch your attention that much, I find that the character design and personality is very similar to other anime's.

[Future]

I've seen about 6 or 7 eps... i really like it so far :D

[granamonkey]

Yea, their personalities are similar to other animes, but I still think this anime is better than average. It shouldn't get canceled! The 1st season just ended (episode 11), and it left it completely open with alot of questions to get answered. I'm gonna be pissed if they cancel it now haha.

[Tyekanik]

The show was unique enough to me for my interest to get piqued.

Creepy as hell in parts but a good enough show to deserve a second season says I.

[-=Yanayo=-]

yeah iv watched it
love it =]

[Kuroudo]

Which series has the better songs hmm?

[reaverofsouls05]

i believe bleach does but they both have very good music bleach just has better music

[Lelouch]

Sarutobi was called GOD (!) of ALL ( !!) Ninja for a reason.....

[Lelouch]

Tobi will win. He will accidentaly do the "small penis" quote in an attempt to join the Akatsuki again and Naruto will fall over crying over another dude uncovering his gheyness to him.

XD

[Tablo.]

Bleach's music is more calm, while Naruto's bit more "ALALALALALALLALA -eats a bit of chocolate- LALALALALA!!!!" (means more tempo and some sort.)

I like Bleach's better.

[Kuroudo]

If fanboy means stating facts that are directly stated in the manga, then yes, I am a fanboy.
It's stated in the manga (anime at least) that he can level mountains and raise tsunamis with each tail. There's no debate over what it could mean... just purposeful ignorance of valid points against your theory.
You neglect the fact that 9T Naruto would have a full body chakra shield, much harder than diamond. Ichigo, fast, slice, broken sword, dead Ichigo.
Wow, you keep stating Ichigo is fast... nobody said he isn't. However, you imply that he is in some type of constant shunpo state while fighting, which there is no basis for besides an extended anime scene, which is not a valid argument. Ichigo dashes at Grimmjaw, attacks, then repeats. The manga shows he's fast, but it nowhere implies he's constantly moving at supersonic speed. When he uses shunpo, it clearly shows it via instantly appearing near Grimmjaw and/or trailing movement lines, and they don't speak full sentences during shunpo.
Firstly, I have yet to see Ichigo cut down anything as big as a mountain. Anything he has "cut down" was actually just cutting a part of it and having it crumble on itself. Cutting down a "HUGE" structure is not the same as leveling a mountain. By that logic, cutting down a mile high telephone pole is the same as flattening a mile high mountain.
That is not nearly on the level of flattening a mountain using 1 (of 9) tails. Kyuubi doesn't need speed to win... he has far more strength and defense than Ichigo.

Woah dude..you must love naruto or somthing. its obvious that bleach characters can pwn naruto ones okay.

Ichigo DID cut something even harder than a mountain all the buidings in Soul Society? are made out of spirit particles it is like 50x harder than rock which most mountains are made out of.

Ichigo cant break his sword, any zanpaktou even hanatarous regenerates on its own. Zangetsu in that factor regenerates instantly as say's his battle with Zaraki Kenpachi. Spirit Energy is allot stronger chakra, Chakra may be powerful but someone can just sense it, Reiatsu can litteraly paralyze someone instantly depending on how strong the person is.

Ichigo chooses to do shunpo when hes fighting enemies that rely on that. EX: Kuichiki Byakuya, Ichigo usually just relies on beating the crap out of the enemy by just shunpo'ing behind them.

Kyuubi does have more phyiscal strength and defense than Ichigo. Thats what Vaizard and Shirosaki are for. What good is the Kyuuby's strength if he cant hit Ichigo. Ichigo in vaizard or hollow form can shunpo 3x faster and longer than in Bankai. besides Vaizard or Shirosaki can heavily damage 9-Tails with Getsuga i know by Ichigos bankai use it isnt that powerful or big but in those forms Getsuga is HUGE and is no longoer a simple black moving slash but a huge wave of darkness able to size about Kyubbys foot.

Ichigo DOES have defense. as kenpachi stated the one with the higher reiatsu dosent get cut. They say the Kyuuby has limtless chakra this may be true. but Ichigos reiatsu his HUGE and constantly growing, Ichigo has trouble controlling how fast it grows and is constantly spilling it (creating Chads and Orihimes powers) the Kyuuby probably has defense but Ichigo has some too.

Saying Ichigos sword cant cut Kyuuby just because its made out of chakra is false and true. They are made out of chakra yet they physically manafiest it EX: Shukaku. So Ichigo is able to cut the kyuuby and i guess it bleeds chakra? Kyuuby will only think of it as a scartch but thats what Getsuga is for.


Like Icestorm 32 said if he transforms into FULL KYUUBY hes no longer naruto is he?


THERE ARE LIKE 200 NARUTO VS ICHIGO THERADS PLEASE TSTOP MAKING THOSE

sorry for the caps.

[Tobi]

I prefer the Naruto openings, Bleach has only Asterisk which I only like.

[Kuroudo]

I'd say RahXephon would win. It's an actual God. Not to mention, it has wanky powers like time reversal, quantum condensation, flight, and the ability to produce multi-dimensional fields. The energy attacks it produces are also able to destroy any matter within the universe with impunity.


Yea, Evangelions are just giant machines (though partly organic) with Guns and rocket launchers. They should but RahXephon aganist an Angel.

[Silhouette]

Wrong section?

This is the Arena, something like this belongs in the Music section. -_-

[Kurita77]

Bleach has the better music i think

[Gettles]

I has been announced that Death Note will now show on Adult Swim, replacing Bleach. Its premere is set for Oct. 20 at midnight.

http://boards.adultswim.com/adultswim/board/message?board.id=6&message.id=4409549&jump=true

[Joe Black]

Urahara uses Benihime to block Hieis Black Dragon fire attack then just shunpos behind him and stabs him in the back.

Block the freaking Fist of the Dragon Flame!111O1eleven.

Remember that against one of Hiei's unfortunate opponents in the Dark Tournament in YYH, the opponent didn't even have a chance to block. Didn't matter anyways, because he was blasted out of existance, and most of the stadium was destroyed.

When the show Yu Yu Hakusho was coming to an end with the Demon Tournament, Hiei displayed miraculous speed as compared with his master. [forgot her name, but she was l33t] Plus, Hiei is downright the most badass, powerful, ninja assassin character undefeated by anyone in the series.

As a light Bleach anime watcher, there isn't much I know about how Urahara fights. I just know he has shinigami like powers, like Shunpo. So there might be bias in my opinion on who would win; assuming that Shunpo = Hiei's heavily trained speed. Face it; the one up that Bleach characters usually have is because of their speed, and Bankai. FOTDF easily matches, if not greater, than any bankai I've seen.

Hiei would win. Fist of the Dragon Flame isn't a move to be taken lightly. Nor should you underestimate Hiei's experiance in killing things.

[Undying]

Rahxephon.

Eva-units are, beside being piloted by emo kids (which is autofail), only human-made robots with some organic parts.

Their most "special" attribute is only the A.T. field which literally fails compared to time-bending, matter destroying, and all the other funky stuff Rah is capable of.

Also, even if we lower Rah to the point where he fights with normal rocket launchers, he has other advantages: flight, greater speed, and no emo kids inside (at least not TOO emo...).

[silverwolf801]

Rahxephons potential to continuosly learn new attacks is awesome. He has sheilds, arrows, swords, magical girls, Iyato,wings, O and crazy mode when he would potential smash the eva to pieces if he has too.

[Tobi]

Just reading some comments about Rahxephon lent me towards it, being a God, being able to destroy any matter in the universe, just crazy. All I know about Evangelion is just a giant robot.

[ruzarko]

tru to that i would love to see an alternate ending where Light wins although i was basically shouting like crazy when L died :( he was my favourite. But a sequel would be nice as Death note was an awesome anime and i loved all of it even teh second half

[Kuroudo]

Block the freaking Fist of the Dragon Flame!111O1eleven.
Remember that against one of Hiei's unfortunate opponents in the Dark Tournament in YYH, the opponent didn't even have a chance to block. Didn't matter anyways, because he was blasted out of existance, and most of the stadium was destroyed.
When the show Yu Yu Hakusho was coming to an end with the Demon Tournament, Hiei displayed miraculous speed as compared with his master. [forgot her name, but she was l33t] Plus, Hiei is downright the most badass, powerful, ninja assassin character undefeated by anyone in the series.
As a light Bleach anime watcher, there isn't much I know about how Urahara fights. I just know he has shinigami like powers, like Shunpo. So there might be bias in my opinion on who would win; assuming that Shunpo = Hiei's heavily trained speed. Face it; the one up that Bleach characters usually have is because of their speed, and Bankai. FOTDF easily matches, if not greater, than any bankai I've seen. e
Hiei would win. Fist of the Dragon Flame isn't a move to be taken lightly. Nor should you underestimate Hiei's experiance in killing things.

Urahara is the Second strongest good guy character next to yamamoto. His Zanpaktou is Benihime it is the ultimate defensive zanpaktou so far. It can block and redirect any attack (it was able to deflect 20 cero's and Ichigos Getsuga Tenshou). Not to mention that he has crazy inventions who knows what heill whip out next to defeat the enemy in battle. His bankai hasnt been revealed yet though. Note 20 Ceros=Strength of 95 Missiles Getsuga Tenshou= 15 Rockets. Still even with this much power thrown at him He is able to BLock with EASE. Hes fast with shunpo able to warp from the ground into like 45 feet in the air behind yammy in less than a second. He can also send a energy blast thats 5x stronger than 1 cero. 1 cero= 5 Missiles.

Nor should you underestimate Hiei's experiance in killing things

Urahara has 1000's of years of Fighting Expirence....




downright the most badass, powerful, ninja assassin character undefeated by anyone in the series.

He might be badassed and powerful but Ninjas have been disgraced ever since naruto come out. i mean what kind of Ninja makes bombs that make huge noises, Wear orange yell Belive it like crazy. and dont give a crap a bout stealth! cmon they should play Tenchu (a REAL ninja game where you rely on stealth because fighting head on will get you killed!


the one up that Bleach characters usually have is because of thir speed, and Bankai. FOTDF easily matches, if not greater, than any bankai I've seen.

Ichigo, Youricihi, Aizen, Byakuya are the fastest charcters when it comes to Shunpo. Aizen is a complete master of it so no arguement there. Ichigo (Bankai) and Yourichi are about a bit higher than Hieis speed. Ichigo and Yourichi both can create 10+ afterimages when using Shunpo. Byakuya is faster than Ichigo in bankai but not faster than Yourichi. Vaizard Ichigo, Shirosaki and Aizen is no argument about how fast they are.

[Icestorm]

^ Has it in one. Urahara is also insanely intelligent.. he can negate peoples attacks if has seen them once.. who can stand up to that?

[Outlawz]

cmon you cant think it would be over that fast he can just shunpo again and again hell he can make circles around luffy besides before that would even happen he would just slash luffy into pieces its hard to dodge somthing you cant see.

You need to actually watch OP to even know what you're talking about.

[James Cizuz]

Interesting to see the responses.

[James Cizuz]

You need to actually watch OP to even know what you're talking about.
I do watch one piece, and read it.
Facts.

Luffy. (Btw, one of my favorite characters)
* Fast as a normal human unless he is rebounding off objects, or using Gear Second.
* Rubber can absorb almost any impact, but as we seen he does get hurt from impacts also. His bones are hard to break but possible.
* He has no advantages such as using spirit pressure to tough'in skin.
* Both gears take a HUGE tole on his body.
* He can be cut by anyway.

Ichigo.
* Fast enough to reach speed where the eye can not track normally. In shunpu reachs speeds beyond what eye can track, or see. Comparison, your eye can track a bullet if it is around 50 feet around passing you horizontally lit up. A bullet reachs speeds of around 600-2500 feet per second. Once a bullet hits around 2000 feet per second the eye can no longer track it, unless it is at a large away distance and emits a huge amount of light. Ichigo surpasses what the eye can track.
*He has a Katana, and as we know luffies biggest weakness, other then water, is swords.
* Ichigo can shoot large masses of reitsu out of his sword.
* Ichigo can stay in his second highest form for pretty much as long as he wants without a tole on his body.
* Ichigos speed increases and power when he goes into highest form, but he can only obtain it for 11 seconds.
Naruto.
* Normal human.
* Faster then human, but not much.
* No skin advantages for being cut. Anything will cut him.
Meh, not even going to bother with naruto.

I kind of hate comparisons between characters of shows like this. Ichigo is overpower, he is over fast. One piece was not meant to be that kind of show, sure characters ARE overpowered in one piece world, however on terms comparing between the bleach and one piece is ridicules.
Ichigo wins within 5 seconds, 20 seconds if he is in shikai(Note, he is still faster then eye can track in shikai).

[BamBam vi Britannia]

i think bleach has better music and the 2nd opening is so far my favourite

[Jay3205]

Off what we've seen so far, Hiei would beat Urahara. Depending on what Urahara's bankai is, he could pull off a win. However, going off the little we do know, the fight is in Hiei's favor. Urahara has never shown himself to be the ultimate shinigami power next to yamamoto and aizen... he's shown himself to be quite a bit stronger than Yammi in shikai, but that's it.

Urahara is the Second strongest good guy character next to yamamoto. His Zanpaktou is Benihime it is the ultimate defensive zanpaktou so far. It can block and redirect any attack (it was able to deflect 20 cero's and Ichigos Getsuga Tenshou).Urahara being the second strongest good guy is pure speculation. He may well be weaker than Ichigo, Shunsui, Ukitake, and possibly some vaizards.

Note 20 Ceros=Strength of 95 Missiles Getsuga Tenshou= 15 Rockets. Still even with this much power thrown at him He is able to BLock with EASE. Hes fast with shunpo able to warp from the ground into like 45 feet in the air behind yammy in less than a second. He can also send a energy blast thats 5x stronger than 1 cero. 1 cero= 5 Missiles.Urahara never blocks 20 ceros. He blocks a bala, which is 20 times faster than a cero but consequently weaker. I don't know how you get the idea that 20 ceros = 95 "missiles getsuga tenshou" = 15 rockets; there is no way to compare them with such exact numbers.

Hes fast with shunpo able to warp from the ground into like 45 feet in the air behind yammy in less than a second. He can also send a energy blast thats 5x stronger than 1 cero. 1 cero= 5 Missiles.Pretty much any character with shunpo can do that... Byakuya has done much impressive shunpo feats. I have no idea where you get that he is shooting out blasts 5x stronger than cero, and that 1 cero = 5 missiles.

[Klavier Gavin]

It was mentioned that 1 bala is 20 times the speed of a cero, it's not equal to 20 cero. I'm going with Hiei for this, judging from his speed and killing instinct. Unless more is shown on Urahara I'll stick to Hiei's victory.

It is true that Urahara is able to negate attacks after he seen it the first time, but I feel that Dragon of the Darkest Flame is on a range above Benihime. Furthermore, Hiei can swallow the dark dragon to become rather invincible.

[Joe Black]

From what I've been hearing from the debate, and mai lack of knowledge of Alucard, both would strive to keep themselves alive from the other's illusion based attacks. So yeah, it'd either be a really tough battle, or it would end in a draw.

However, I wouldn't think they would be fighting anyways. If they are both smart enough, they'd be like... "Wanna join forces?" Then maybe one will stab the other in the back later on.

[crs010]

All Ichigo's got to do for Superman is throw kryptonit and bam his gone

[crs010]

By the time Itachi is showing his sharingan Byakuya would have released his zanpaktou and its over

[crs010]

Itachi is good but it will take more then illusions to beat Ichigo

[Lelouch]

.............

[Lelouch]

maybe and maybe not.
doesn't mean L is too smart to be true doesn't mean it's not true. with the creation of God why not? maybe it's ridiculous to have such a smart guy but it may be possible.

Exactly.. maybe there is someone that smart. but stil we ll never know.. so we cant say for sure ..!!

[James Cizuz]

Aizen obviously isn't human. And the anime isn't that bad, the manga is superior for sure, but the tv series wasn't that horrible. Not to mention the OVA's are pure win.
Actually now that I think about it, Aizen would win in a landslide. However alucard is much faster then I give him credit. Aizen would be considered a human soul, and if he died would become human again, so he basically is considered human. Alucard himself is not fast, however he killed many people much faster then him, and uses there power to become much faster for a few seconds.

The battle would be large favor for Aizen, however it would seem Aizen would be having trouble, because he would have to destroy alucard a few million times before he dies for sure.

[Outlawz]

Actually now that I think about it, Aizen would win in a landslide. However alucard is much faster then I give him credit. Aizen would be considered a human soul, and if he died would become human again, so he basically is considered human. Alucard himself is not fast, however he killed many people much faster then him, and uses there power to become much faster for a few seconds.
The battle would be large favor for Aizen, however it would seem Aizen would be having trouble, because he would have to destroy alucard a few million times before he dies for sure.

Aizen still isn't human, he's a shinigami. And isn't this whole "when shinigamis die they become human" stuff all speculation?

[Undying]

Shinigami aren't human, they are shinigami. There's a difference.

When shinigami die they become part of Soul Society. Read some freaking manga, won't you.

They don't become humans again.

Alucard has regular human weapons and illusion based attacks.

Aizen has enough power to stop an attack that has probably enough power to slice a building in two with just a finger.

Aizen also has illusions, and one that activates much faster than the whole "hand waving" Alucard does.

Granted, I haven't read Hellsing manga, so I wouldn't know.

[crs010]

I have been thinking a great bout between the guys for bleach and heroes and dragon ball z but i think bleach will come out on top

[crs010]

Ichigo is to powerful and better with the sword then Cloud I believe it would be a massacre no lie

[L_Lawliet]

Death Note is too awesome to be dubbed .-.

[ruzarko]

dammit can anyone sub this deleted scene as im not basically japanese and id love to know what the hell Light is screaming at and dancing on L's grave for. Hes such a git I hate Light -_-

[Miyagi Rikku]

How bout you guys stop spamming and learn to read other threads before posting
and making a new thread. Kthnx

[L_Lawliet]

Ayo man, thats my username D:<

[TargaryenX]

To be honest, this isn't even really a contest. Dragon Ball Z is one of the most overpowered anime in history, and the characters in heroes are all fairly weak. Consider that Peter Petrelli releasing all of his power only created a blast big enough to destroy New York City, while characters in DBZ had power that threatened the earth from as early as the second story arc. Peter, Sylar, or Mirai Hiro could probably put up a decent fight against bleach captains, if only because of their time-bending abilities, but that wouldn't save them against even weak DBZ characters.

[Kurita77]

I've never even heard of death note whats it about?

[silverwolf801]

hahaha I willl finally get to see this emo show dubbed. I never watched it subbed and I never will. I LOVE ADULTSWIM

[Kuroudo]

All Ichigo's got to do for Superman is throw kryptonit and bam his gone

Yea, if he could find some Super Mans Uber-screwed!!! XD he could probably beat the thing since the thing is just a rock skined mega-buff dude.

[Alerane]

Does anyone happen to know if it will be coming to YTV too?

[Kuroudo]

It was mentioned that 1 bala is 20 times the speed of a cero, it's not equal to 20 cero. I'm going with Hiei for this, judging from his speed and killing instinct. Unless more is shown on Urahara I'll stick to Hiei's victory.

It is true that Urahara is able to negate attacks after he seen it the first time, but I feel that Dragon of the Darkest Flame is on a range above Benihime. Furthermore, Hiei can swallow the dark dragon to become rather invincible.

Hey Hiei has shown all of his moves already. Urahara hasnt even revealed his Bankai! Urahara could take on the espada and thats somthing thats hard to do. i dont see how Killing instinct has to do wth this battle. also Urahara DID block a cero in his battle aganist Yammy.

[Kuroudo]

I do watch one piece, and read it.
Facts.
Luffy. (Btw, one of my favorite characters)
* Fast as a normal human unless he is rebounding off objects, or using Gear Second.
* Rubber can absorb almost any impact, but as we seen he does get hurt from impacts also. His bones are hard to break but possible.
* He has no advantages such as using spirit pressure to tough'in skin.
* Both gears take a HUGE tole on his body.
* He can be cut by anyway.
Ichigo.
* Fast enough to reach speed where the eye can not track normally. In shunpu reachs speeds beyond what eye can track, or see. Comparison, your eye can track a bullet if it is around 50 feet around passing you horizontally lit up. A bullet reachs speeds of around 600-2500 feet per second. Once a bullet hits around 2000 feet per second the eye can no longer track it, unless it is at a large away distance and emits a huge amount of light. Ichigo surpasses what the eye can track.
*He has a Katana, and as we know luffies biggest weakness, other then water, is swords.
* Ichigo can shoot large masses of reitsu out of his sword.
* Ichigo can stay in his second highest form for pretty much as long as he wants without a tole on his body.
* Ichigos speed increases and power when he goes into highest form, but he can only obtain it for 11 seconds.
Naruto.
* Normal human.
* Faster then human, but not much.
* No skin advantages for being cut. Anything will cut him.
Meh, not even going to bother with naruto.
I kind of hate comparisons between characters of shows like this. Ichigo is overpower, he is over fast. One piece was not meant to be that kind of show, sure characters ARE overpowered in one piece world, however on terms comparing between the bleach and one piece is ridicules.
Ichigo wins within 5 seconds, 20 seconds if he is in shikai(Note, he is still faster then eye can track in shikai).

That sums that up well with facts XD. :)

[Kuroudo]

Here is the ratio of who will win

DBZ 85%
Bleach 12%
Heroes 3%

Bleach it self is pretty damn strong its just that DBZ is possibley the most Godmoded anime ever created. Heroes isnt even compared to DBZ.

[Kuroudo]

Which is better Sephiroths super nova able to destroy, Pluto, Saturn and Jupiter which is like 10x bigger than earth and the sun. or SS4 Goku Spirit Bomb which i dont know how powerful but probably big enough to destroy earth.

[Kuroudo]

Okay Ichigo beats them all at combat range speed but when you mean how fast they are going damn Flash wins!

[BamBam vi Britannia]

DBZ no doubt. DBZ just has to many powers! and so many people as well . Goku would go SSJ3 fly out of the earth and use a kamehameha and destroy the earth along with all the enemys

[Kuroudo]

Lots of Hiei vs <Insert Bleach Character here> these days might as well put one up.

[Kuroudo]

I dont care who wins Tifa is Mega-Hot!!!!!!

[ruzarko]

I agree L is way too calm and sophisticated to go crazy like Light did. Instead L would be double thinking such as why did this Death Note appear and what purpose is this here for or then again hell think is this a test? L's too smart for his own good :)

[Outlawz]

I do watch one piece, and read it.
Facts.
Luffy. (Btw, one of my favorite characters)
* Fast as a normal human unless he is rebounding off objects, or using Gear Second.
* Rubber can absorb almost any impact, but as we seen he does get hurt from impacts also. His bones are hard to break but possible.
* He has no advantages such as using spirit pressure to tough'in skin.
* Both gears take a HUGE tole on his body.
* He can be cut by anyway.
Ichigo.
* Fast enough to reach speed where the eye can not track normally. In shunpu reachs speeds beyond what eye can track, or see. Comparison, your eye can track a bullet if it is around 50 feet around passing you horizontally lit up. A bullet reachs speeds of around 600-2500 feet per second. Once a bullet hits around 2000 feet per second the eye can no longer track it, unless it is at a large away distance and emits a huge amount of light. Ichigo surpasses what the eye can track.
[B]Luffy has soru, and he can just flex hi body to dodge.
*He has a Katana, and as we know luffies biggest weakness, other then water, is swords.
Luffy has been stabbed, cut, impaled with a hook, etc. He can by far take a worse beating then Ichigo.
* Ichigo can shoot large masses of reitsu out of his sword.
* Ichigo can stay in his second highest form for pretty much as long as he wants without a tole on his body.
* Ichigos speed increases and power when he goes into highest form, but he can only obtain it for 11 seconds.
Naruto.
* Normal human.
* Faster then human, but not much.
* No skin advantages for being cut. Anything will cut him.
Meh, not even going to bother with naruto.
I kind of hate comparisons between characters of shows like this. Ichigo is overpower, he is over fast. One piece was not meant to be that kind of show, sure characters ARE overpowered in one piece world, however on terms comparing between the bleach and one piece is ridicules.
Ichigo wins within 5 seconds, 20 seconds if he is in shikai(Note, he is still faster then eye can track in shikai).
But like you said, these 2 shows are nothing alike. Bleach is filled with over powered characters, where OP actually has good fights without magical unexplainable power ups.

[James Cizuz]

But like you said, these 2 shows are nothing alike. Bleach is filled with over powered characters, where OP actually has good fights without magical unexplainable power ups.
That doesn't negate the fact Ichigo would own Luffy.

[James Cizuz]

Shinigami aren't human, they are shinigami. There's a difference.

When shinigami die they become part of Soul Society. Read some freaking manga, won't you.

When they die they are reincarnated. As humans. :O

They don't become humans again.

After reincarnation they do.

Alucard has regular human weapons and illusion based attacks.

Aizen has enough power to stop an attack that has probably enough power to slice a building in two with just a finger.

Aizen also has illusions, and one that activates much faster than the whole "hand waving" Alucard does.

Granted, I haven't read Hellsing manga, so I wouldn't know.
Alucard has a lot of other worldly weapons to. Very strong attacks. However Aizen would end up winning.

[Juujika]

Ace has a better chance at defeating Aokiji than Luffy. First, Ace has the elemental advantage. Second, Luffy has never defeated Ace in a fight.

I don't think luffy ever fought ace. Plus black beard killed off ace i think and he'll keep killing other powerful people.

[Outlawz]

Alucard has a lot of other worldly weapons to. Very strong attacks. However Aizen would end up winning.

Once again, the person who kills Alucard will be human, which Aizen is not. If Alexander Anderson's purified blades didn't kill him, what would make you think a normal sword would?
When they die they are reincarnated. As humans. :O
Please, show me where this is said, because I never recall that being said.

[Miyagi Rikku]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, silly weaboo.


Hhah! silly spammer. Stop spamming.

[theblack_dragon]

so wait adultswim is cancelling bleach or are they taking a season break and bringing death note in its place

[reaverofsouls05]

oh man this sucks light sounds so stupid in the dub why would they do this

[MezzoDragon]

We've never seen Luffy and Ace fight. Luffy, himself, said he never defeated Ace in a fight.

[skyoon]

meh.....though TBH i wish adult swim would show some lesser known anime like Tenjou Tenge, or a comedy like Haruhi....airing Death Note just seems like such a predictable move for them :\

[Princess Gheyfu]

oh man this sucks light sounds so stupid in the dub why would they do this

Are you an idiot? I am sorry, I do not care if this is flaming but I had the last straw: FOR GODS SAKE PEOPLE, THE DUB ON THE DEATH NOTE SITE IS NOT THE ACTUAL VOICE ACTOR FOR LIGHT.

Jeez, do NONE of you visit animenewsnework? Everywhere ont he internet I hear the same complaints, graah. >: (

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I love this anime and the manga for it, and it will definately go on my top 10 best of all time. WIll be eccentric to see this on [as] next month. =) Can't wait. <333

[Jay3205]

there's no need to bump stuff that is month(s) old, Warcraftian...

[Joe Black]

{yeah, I'm aware that this is my second battle thread involving CG, but I'm really addicted with the cliffhanger ending. so. . .}

Who would win in this head on head battle?

The Old: Van, who pilots the mystical mech Escaflowne?
or
The New: Suzaku, who pilots the brand new Knightmare Lancelot?

I know that Escaflowne is hella old, when I was young, so I'll remind you of these things.

- Van is soul bonded with Escaflowne, so that means if the machine takes damage, he's directly hurt as well.

- Van has Hitomi [clairvoyant/psychic/telepath] on his side.

- [look up the rest on Wiki lawl]

[silverwolf801]

you can't wait I can't wait to finally see why people liek this so called death note so much

[Arei]

Holy crap, FINALLY a official announcement ^o^

This is great, won't have to wait till November to watch it xD I want to hear a few episodes dubbed >__>

Are they axeing Bleach, or is it on hiatus this season?



Skyoon: Tenjou Tenge is currently airing on Friday nights on Fuse... I think it maybe on right now O_o its on sometime around midnight (11:30 I THINK) (least this at my time currently)

[Gettles]

Holy crap, FINALLY a official announcement ^o^

This is great, won't have to wait till November to watch it xD I want to hear a few episodes dubbed >__>

Are they axeing Bleach, or is it on hiatus this season?



Skyoon: Tenjou Tenge is currently airing on Friday nights on Fuse... I think it maybe on right now O_o its on sometime around midnight (11:30 I THINK) (least this at my time currently)

I imagine that Bleach is only going on a temporary hiatus. Considering its been Saturday's best ratings grabber behind Futurama(which AS loses at the end of the year). Also, all of AS's longer running animes(FMA and Inuyasha) have had the same thing happen at some point. So I'm betting on it just being a temporary break not a canceling.

[FullMetal Rebel]

No offense warcraftian, but you scream post whore. You have been here for like what? A week,and you already got 100+ post.

[Renjirulez]

Without doubt I'm going to say Bleach has the best music,although Naruto's isn't bad.

My favorite is Dtechnolife by UVERworld

[teilwal]

ahh yes our lovely L..brilliant beyond comprehension..well i was thinking about his attempt to try and test out the death note himself..if he hadnt died a couple of minutes later im sure he wouldve pulled through with that..i do understand that he only wanted to use it so he could confirm his theories and solve the kira case..L's also similar to light in a couple of ways just as he himself admitted in the beginning..the way he was childish and doesnt like to lose and such..

[James Cizuz]

Once again, the person who kills Alucard will be human, which Aizen is not. If Alexander Anderson's purified blades didn't kill him, what would make you think a normal sword would?

Actually Alucard said the only person who could kill him is the opposite of a monster, or a human. Because being a monster himself he "knows" all the tricks, "fought" every type of monster, and the only one to bring him down was a human before hand. Only reason I said Aizen was a human was because he once was a human, and he is still a human soul. Just with power now, being a shingami. But it doesn't matter, negate that anyway.

Please, show me where this is said, because I never recall that being said.

Cycle. Death > Otherworld(soul soceity) and might become a shingami, or stay a normal soul > Death in that state > Reincarnation. They don't remember anything and don't have the power they had before, or any at all. They just are reincarnated.

[L_Lawliet]

you can't wait I can't wait to finally see why people liek this so called death note so much

You might actually like it if you see it. Stop acting like a douchebag.

[Donut]

hahaha I willl finally get to see this emo show dubbed. I never watched it subbed and I never will. I LOVE ADULTSWIM

Emo show? Are you honestly calling Death Note "emo"?

Please kill yourself immediately if you don't see what's wrong with your statement.

[Kuroudo]

No offense warcraftian, but you scream post whore. You have been here for like what? A week,and you already got 100+ post.

Is there somthing wrong with that?

[Kuroudo]

But like you said, these 2 shows are nothing alike. Bleach is filled with over powered characters, where OP actually has good fights without magical unexplainable power ups.

The Term Overpowered is used only in God-Moding is normal for all characters. For example DBZ is Overpowered. Bleach atcually has explanations for powers. which include 1000's of years of training and spirit energy which is allot stronger than chakra.

[Rabid_Wolverine]

Please please people. There's an easy way to settle this. JUMP ULTIMATE STARS.

[Kuroudo]

Please please people. There's an easy way to settle this. JUMP ULTIMATE STARS.

.........................................................................................................................................................................................................Poor taste.................................

[Kuroudo]

I havent watched Yu-Yu Hakasho in years. But Ichigo gets like 1.5x stronger ever single fight he loses. every win its like 3x stronger. Ichigo is WAYYY to fast for anyone in Yu-Yu maybe except Hiei hes pretty damn fast. it'd be over in 1 sec with a shunpo and a sword.

[Kuroudo]

Exactly how would Goku win? Even his strongest attacks are not enough to kill Hulk, and any damage Hulk gets would be nearly instantly healed. Hulk is many times stronger than Goku is, and he has knocked back blasts significantly stronger than Goku's Kamehameha. Goku's strength is limited and he gets tired as he stays in SSJ form. The Hulk has practically unlimited strength and stamina. One line posts such as "Goku wins" aren't an argument.

Okay. your really underestimtating goku which is like the overpowered god of anime. First hed go into space. even though the hulk is a green super-strengthed machine hes still human. He would die in space. SS4 Spirit Bomb would kill Hulk the single fact that SS4 Goku's Kamehameha can destroy earth can prove that if Hulk were able to survive the blow he would just die from lack of Oxygen and Air.

[Starlight]

Brains don't matter if ur killed 2 seconds into the fight. Even if Kurama started with Yoko, he wouldn't be able to keep up with Ichigo's Bankai. With Ichigo's mask it's just pure murder. Ichigo wins this.

[Undying]

When they die they are reincarnated. As humans. :O
After reincarnation they do.

No, shinigami do not reincarnate as humans, or even reincarnate at all. Kaien states as much. Therefore Shinigami are not humans, or human souls. Some of them were originally human souls with a power inside, but that's it.

[Silhouette]

Yes, there is a problem like that. All you've done since you've joined is:

Revive old threads that are dead for a reason, spamming meaningless nonsense in them.

Typed one liner posts about insignificant things.

Ignore the warnings of other members, who have told you to stop spamming and necrobumping threads.

Make the most nonsensical threads ever.

Wrong section?
This is the Arena, something like this belongs in the Music section. -_-

^ I'm quoting my earlier statement, incase no one saw it. :whatevah:

[Silhouette]

READ BEFORE REVIVING OLD THREADS THAT HAVE BEEN DEBATED TO DEATH AND NEED TO STAY DEAD!

Hulk can survive the Earth's explosion.

Hulk can breathe in space.

THESE HAVE BEEN STATED IN THIS FRIGGIN THREAD! READ FOR THE LOVE OF YOUR GOD (if you have a religion)!

[Silhouette]

Fanboyism? I love how much YYH characters are underrated in the Anime Arena. Kurama is fast, knows how to rape your mind, and has much more experience.

Ichigo won't start in Bankai, the thread didn't say he would. And he wouldn't get the chance to. Kurama is more powerful than normal Ichigo. Yoko Kurama is more powerful than masked Ichigo.

Bankai + Mask would be different, but as I said, he won't make it. Kurama is ruthless, and Hiei (the speed, relentless, powerful demon) knows this.


I havent watched Yu-Yu Hakasho in years. But Ichigo gets like 1.5x stronger ever single fight he loses. every win its like 3x stronger. Ichigo is WAYYY to fast for anyone in Yu-Yu maybe except Hiei hes pretty damn fast. it'd be over in 1 sec with a shunpo and a sword.

That has got to be the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

[nx6]

Why the hell do they have to take a hiatus on shows that are over a hundred episodes ahead in Japan? I mean WTF? It's not like they are going to run out of material to dub. Heck, they could completely skip the Bount Arc if they wanted to and still be okay. The only reason not to is they would have a continuity problem with the mod souls being there and the Bount Arc being refrenced in certain episodes.

Getting back on topic: Awesome. If they fixed the bad dub actor choices, I'll have to catch it and see how it is in English.

[Miyagi Rikku]

Guess what, I am dubbing Misa Misa ....... not.

Well I guess I will give it a go when it airs XD and maybe give me something to watch
when I am bored. XD like I dowith Bleach Dub

[April_San]

sounds good but ill still miss bleach..hope they do good on death note then

[Draffut]

Sarutobi was called GOD (!) of ALL ( !!) Ninja for a reason.....

While I also believe Sarutobi would win, I want to point out something. He was the "God of Shinobi" during his hayday. But he also stated things like, Yondaime was the greatest ninja Konoha ever produced, and somethign along the lines of Itachi being the most powerful genious to ever attend the academy.

[FullMetal Rebel]

Is there somthing wrong with that?


It would be okay, if you didn't use time travel on the anime arena.

[James Cizuz]

No, shinigami do not reincarnate as humans, or even reincarnate at all. Kaien states as much. Therefore Shinigami are not humans, or human souls. Some of them were originally human souls with a power inside, but that's it.
Must of missed that. Whatever, just supposed since all other souls reincarnate they would to.

[Jay3205]

Does anybody know about the new entry into the Mai Hime derived manga? There is info on wikipedia about it, but I can barely find anything else about it?

[Tablo.]

Uh.... Is it Mai Otome?

[Kuroudo]

No, shinigami do not reincarnate as humans, or even reincarnate at all. Kaien states as much. Therefore Shinigami are not humans, or human souls. Some of them were originally human souls with a power inside, but that's it.

No im pretty sure they reincarnate as either a new soul, or a human with no past memories of their former life.

[Kuroudo]

It would be okay, if you didn't use time travel on the anime arena.

Im getting pretty tired of Uverworld. probably because the American Bleach is still on it! God switch to Ichirn No hana already!! gr.. not saying its a bad song just saying ive heard it like 20x already.

[Kuroudo]

READ BEFORE REVIVING OLD THREADS THAT HAVE BEEN DEBATED TO DEATH AND NEED TO STAY DEAD!
Hulk can survive the Earth's explosion.
Hulk can breathe in space.
THESE HAVE BEEN STATED IN THIS FRIGGIN THREAD! READ FOR THE LOVE OF YOUR GOD (if you have a religion)!

well if he can he would just float endlessly in space...alone.....alone....

[Kuroudo]

Fanboyism? I love how much YYH characters are underrated in the Anime Arena. Kurama is fast, knows how to rape your mind, and has much more experience.
Ichigo won't start in Bankai, the thread didn't say he would. And he wouldn't get the chance to. Kurama is more powerful than normal Ichigo. Yoko Kurama is more powerful than masked Ichigo.
Bankai + Mask would be different, but as I said, he won't make it. Kurama is ruthless, and Hiei (the speed, relentless, powerful demon) knows this.
That has got to be the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

If the battle started dodged his first attack then went bankai and vaizard would Kurama be dead then? besides he can go really fast too in shikai though he can only create like 4+ afterimages instead of like 10. what i mean is in anime usually the characters before battle let the opponent reveal their move first. for example Grimmjow vs Ichigo #2 Grimmjow was waiting face to face with Ichigo has he let Icihgo go bankai.

[Kuroudo]

yea

Rules
Master Chief starts with Dual SMGs and a rocket launcher on his back.
Xigbar has those two gun things
Squall has his gunblade
Vincent has Cerberus (triple barled Magnum) also HE can transform into Chaos.

[Que Sera Sera]

Xigbar or Vincent but more Xigbar. Like he can dissappear at will and do that nearly anavoidable shot thing. VIncent because he's awesome. ^^

[Jaran]

Probably talking about Mai Otome s.ilf or whatever it's called.

[FullMetal Rebel]

Okay. your really underestimtating goku which is like the overpowered god of anime. First hed go into space. even though the hulk is a green super-strengthed machine hes still human. He would die in space. SS4 Spirit Bomb would kill Hulk the single fact that SS4 Goku's Kamehameha can destroy earth can prove that if Hulk were able to survive the blow he would just die from lack of Oxygen and Air.


Dude! Your responding to a post from January!

I cannot explain the irony in that!

Read the dates!

This whole section is a effin mess!

[Yellow]

Death note ending His rein of gayness is finally over.. and its been over for a long time.... Isn't there a episode about a few years after lights death or something.... Welll GUESS WHAT L'S NAME BACKWARDS IS L

[Guts]

Any idea which side will wins?


Especially between Arranca from bleach and Awakened being from claymore?

[Lelouch]

Arrancar > Awakened Beings.. I mean ok 1 cero can kill Easley e.t.c with ease.. They die hard , ok but they die with SWORDS..

Cero > sword = Arrancar > Awakened Beings.

But stil Awakened's are cooler :D

<3 Priscilla/Easley :) :) :) :)

[Lelouch]

Alucard was immortal wasnt he? ... So alu wins ^_^

[Guts]

Arrancar > Awakened Beings.. I mean ok 1 cero can kill Easley e.t.c with ease.. They die hard , ok but they die with SWORDS..
Cero > sword = Arrancar > Awakened Beings.
But stil Awakened's are cooler :D
<3 Priscilla/Easley :) :) :) :)


You way too underestimate Awakened being, Clare did attain something similiar to Shinigami Shunpo and yet was unable to scratch a hair off Priscilla.


And Priscilla is able to awake 2 times! (Something close to sword released from Esplanda)

[Undying]

No im pretty sure they reincarnate as either a new soul, or a human with no past memories of their former life.
No, they don't. That's regular human souls who "die" again in Soul Society and reincarnate in the living world once again. As for Shinigami, they become part of Soul Society if they die. And as far as I've seen, it's quite difficult to kill Shinigami unless you lop off their heads or eat them.

[.multi]

Mai HiME Destiny I think it was. There are some links in the FC thread.

[cyberfields]

i like the second opening myself.... i loved it ever since i heard it....

[cyberfields]

*battle begins*
*ichigo exerts crushing spiritual pressure*
*ichigo uses flashstep*

gg?

[Kuroudo]

Yoma = Hollow
Awakened >> Giant Hollow
Awakened >> Menos Grande
Awakened = Gillan class Menos
Awakened <<< Ajuchucas Class Menos
Awakened <<<<< Vaizard
Awakened <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Vasto Lord

and as an extra

Awakened <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Aizen Vaizard


Awakned beats hollows and menos grandes but defiently not Ajuchucas class and Vasto lord. Vaizard is too strong for them as well.

[FullMetal Rebel]

Fanboyism? I love how much YYH characters are underrated in the Anime Arena.

Every character is underrated in this place against Bleach characters. Whenever a Bleach character goes against a character that isn't from Bleach you get statements like below.

I havent watched Yu-Yu Hakasho in years. But Ichigo gets like 1.5x stronger ever single fight he loses. every win its like 3x stronger. Ichigo is WAYYY to fast for anyone in Yu-Yu maybe except Hiei hes pretty damn fast. it'd be over in 1 sec with a shunpo and a sword.

[Neko Toku]

Snowdragon is a god!

[Evanesque]

OMG, that was sooo cute!!! xD

[Joe Black]

^ noice observation.

but what about this. . . "L" can be pronounced "elle", meaning that he's actually french, and female. :O!!

[Evanesque]

That's a good suggestion because me as well as a lot of other members can't get anything downloaded from megaupload :<

Sendspace.com or some other hosting site (other than rapidshare) is a good alternative
:)

[Joe Black]

Ichigo is WAYYY to fast for anyone in Yu-Yu maybe except Hiei hes pretty damn fast.

I suppose I can't really blame you for saying something like this since you havent watched YYH in a long time, and have been watching Bleach more recently, and are on a Bleach forum. but that doesn't mean Bleach is greater than everything because shinigami speed and bankai make it so. Anyways, these battle threads shouldn't become that serious; i enjoy arguing against consensus most of the time; even if I know its a losing battle.

[i apologize in advance for using your admittance that Hiei can maybe match Ichigo in speed, to become part of the foundation of my arguement.]

First of all, keep in mind that Kurama is a foe to not take lightly, even without his Yoko form. For example in the Dark Tournament, he refused himself to change into his evil form for personal reasons, but still managed to narrowly defeat a really tough opponent.

He is quite intelligent, and is quite capable of making a battle plan before and even during the heat of battle. I'm sure that he'd have some tricks up his sleeve to defeat him without resorting to simply head to head combat. [in the form of special seeds and such.]

Other than that, he does possess amicable reflex speed with his fox-like agility, and is quite proficient with his rose whip. Disarming Ichigo from his sword becomes a possibility. Recall that Kurama killed a mind reader in less than a second by decapitating the top part of his head with a flick of a wrist.

All that Yoko form does is amplify these recognizable abilities to mythic porportions. For example, it's possible to believe that in this form, Kurama's speed is close to that of Hiei's. [thus by your reasoning War, makes Kurama about as fast as Ichigo] As well, his plans become more sinister and cruel.

Sorry Ichigo, you just don't have enough experiance yet. Kurama wins.

[Outlawz]

That doesn't negate the fact Ichigo would own Luffy.

I highly doubt Ichigo would own Luffy, probably beat him, but not own.
The Term Overpowered is used only in God-Moding is normal for all characters. For example DBZ is Overpowered. Bleach atcually has explanations for powers. which include 1000's of years of training and spirit energy which is allot stronger than chakra.
There lame ass reasons, like "Look inside your heart" or "Your friends are depending on you". All of the power ups just come from emotions.

[James Cizuz]

I highly doubt Ichigo would own Luffy, probably beat him, but not own.
There lame ass reasons, like "Look inside your heart" or "Your friends are depending on you". All of the power ups just come from emotions.
Depends. If it was a fight dependent on their characters prior fights luffy would somehow just come up with something new to allow him to fight near ichigo but overall ichigo would win. That is if the 2 artists got together for it, both would want it.

However in a world negating their personalities, just fighting patterns, and both are blood thirsty and don't care who they kill, ichigo would just shunpo and you would see luffies head fall.

[James Cizuz]

You way too underestimate Awakened being, Clare did attain something similiar to Shinigami Shunpo and yet was unable to scratch a hair off Priscilla.
And Priscilla is able to awake 2 times! (Something close to sword released from Esplanda)

No, she can't awake 2 times. Heres a hint, at episode 17 the show started to stray from manga. At episode 23 it HORRIBLY strayed so far it can barely be called claymore anymore. Clare is not even supposed to fight her now. Oh, and btw, claymore speed is much slower then sunpo. A awakened would kill a gillian, but anything above that no. Simply because the gillian would have more power, but it's far to stupid.

[Outlawz]

Depends. If it was a fight dependent on their characters prior fights luffy would somehow just come up with something new to allow him to fight near ichigo but overall ichigo would win. That is if the 2 artists got together for it, both would want it.
However in a world negating their personalities, just fighting patterns, and both are blood thirsty and don't care who they kill, ichigo would just shunpo and you would see luffies head fall.

You make Luffy seem so weak. Luffy isn't slow, he could dodge Ichigos attacks in Gear 2 and Jet Gatling Gun him from a distance.

[Silhouette]

^ Yeah, no.

1. Squall isn't a gunslinger. He's a gunblader. There's a difference. Tell me, have you ever seen Squall use his weapon like gun? That is, actually firing bullets to hit targets from afar? No? Squall is eliminated.

2. Master Chief? lol?

With that said, Xigbar wins. He'd just warp them all to a tiny square, and they'd either:

- Kill each other, because close range gun fights are fail.
- Or, he could simply fly around them and rape them with energy bullets.

This isn't really a match.. Nice try with Chaos btw, but he'll be dead before that, thanks.

[Outlawz]

I don't think luffy ever fought ace. Plus black beard killed off ace i think and he'll keep killing other powerful people.
I highly doubt Ace is dead.

[S-puff]

thanks that is soo cool

[Gray Fox]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmLEvaxbNnI

It messes up at about 32 seconds, so if you want to hear the rest try this link instead and it should play the rest....
http://killthemongoose.satamsonic.com/onepiece/funidub2.avi

EDIT:Nevermind the first link, the same video has been reuploaded only it doesn't mess up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JfxMLrvUHI

[Kuroudo]

I suppose I can't really blame you for saying something like this since you havent watched YYH in a long time, and have been watching Bleach more recently, and are on a Bleach forum. but that doesn't mean Bleach is greater than everything because shinigami speed and bankai make it so. Anyways, these battle threads shouldn't become that serious; i enjoy arguing against consensus most of the time; even if I know its a losing battle.
[i apologize in advance for using your admittance that Hiei can maybe match Ichigo in speed, to become part of the foundation of my arguement.]
First of all, keep in mind that Kurama is a foe to not take lightly, even without his Yoko form. For example in the Dark Tournament, he refused himself to change into his evil form for personal reasons, but still managed to narrowly defeat a really tough opponent.
He is quite intelligent, and is quite capable of making a battle plan before and even during the heat of battle. I'm sure that he'd have some tricks up his sleeve to defeat him without resorting to simply head to head combat. [in the form of special seeds and such.]
Other than that, he does possess amicable reflex speed with his fox-like agility, and is quite proficient with his rose whip. Disarming Ichigo from his sword becomes a possibility. Recall that Kurama killed a mind reader in less than a second by decapitating the top part of his head with a flick of a wrist.
All that Yoko form does is amplify these recognizable abilities to mythic porportions. For example, it's possible to believe that in this form, Kurama's speed is close to that of Hiei's. [thus by your reasoning War, makes Kurama about as fast as Ichigo] As well, his plans become more sinister and cruel.
Sorry Ichigo, you just don't have enough experiance yet. Kurama wins.

I never really see disarming the opponent as an option. it is like never done in bleach, i dont remember Hiei losing his sword before. If kuramara is as fast as ichigo in bankai. then he could just go Vaizard. in terms of strategy that wouldnt really matter if Shirosaki comes out theres no predicting what heill do next that crazy-ass guy. true ichigo dosent have allot of expirence about 1/2 a year of fighting. (15 at start hes now 16) all the soul society characters have at least 500 years of fighting expirence

[Kuroudo]

^ Yeah, no.
1. Squall isn't a gunslinger. He's a gunblader. There's a difference. Tell me, have you ever seen Squall use his weapon like gun? That is, actually firing bullets to hit targets from afar? No? Squall is eliminated.
2. Master Chief? lol?
With that said, Xigbar wins. He'd just warp them all to a tiny square, and they'd either:
- Kill each other, because close range gun fights are fail.
- Or, he could simply fly around them and rape them with energy bullets.
This isn't really a match.. Nice try with Chaos btw, but he'll be dead before that, thanks.

I wish people would just vote in the post. if he went chaos he might be a match for Xigbar. from his battle with Weiss it proved he can do shunpo. but chaos i dunno how he would do that, he usually does it at a really emotional moment or when hes about to die.

[Kuroudo]

ever fought against anyone who was pro at using Ivy???
even comps can let out some nice combos once in a while.
Renji's nice and all, but he lacks raw power, GG.

Thats a huge understatement for Renji, His Shikai is just like Ichigos but far ranged and less powerful. But bankai is all about raw power. its HUGE it weighs like a ton! it can crush ivy or just kill her with King Baboon Cannon seriosuly many of you say Ivy will pwn renji because of her really good combos or far-ranged to close attacks, or even the fact that renji looses allot. but still Bankai is HUGE ive played SC-SC3 so far the most powerful hitter is either nightmare,Siegfried or Astraroth. Renji would probably lose in shikai but then he would go bankai. I doubt ivys sword can pierce his Zanpaktou. it would just rush her out she dosent have super strength despite having the soul edge in her. at least not enough to push back a giant ton snake she would get. "RING OUT"

[Jay3205]

Ivy is just a normal human with a special sword. Even with soul edge, her strength is still within the human (or slightly above) range. Renji is pretty much captain level material. Jidanbou can't even move a VC-level Ichigo with his massive strength, so how is a normal human supposed to even hurt someone stronger that? Case in point: Renji wins without effort.

[Jay3205]

Shirosaki hasn't been out for a while, even when Ichigo is dying. People should stop using it as Ichigo's saving grace for every battle.

[VinScythe]

Does the Death Note premiere mean I can make Dub episode threads each week, as long as this forum still exists?

Why the hell do they have to take a hiatus on shows that are over a hundred episodes ahead in Japan? I mean WTF? It's not like they are going to run out of material to dub. Heck, they could completely skip the Bount Arc if they wanted to and still be okay. The only reason not to is they would have a continuity problem with the mod souls being there and the Bount Arc being refrenced in certain episodes.

Skipping every filler you have around 20+ episodes to catch up to Japan, that's fairly dangerous thinking to remain that close jimmy. Especially when Japan could just jump to months of fillers again without notice.

We also have to take into account that skipping Bleach fillers would mean editing filler puppets out of every episode, since they were never introduced/explained to begin with.
Such stuff takes time, like say enough time to run the Death Note dub.

[Dr. Walker]

Emo show? Are you honestly calling Death Note "emo"?
Please kill yourself immediately if you don't see what's wrong with your statement.

I don't see how you people put up with Silver. :< Very few, if any of his posts, are of any intellectual significance.

Besides? >.> Are you people fucking stupid? NEVER judge a dub by its trailer! Gosh darn! :rolleye09

[Dr. Walker]

You know what the funny thing here is?

My mom NEVER saw an episode of Death Note, and she came up to me and told "Lifetime is doing this funny ripoff off that show you like."

>_>

Well, in any case, I gotta see this. "Too Young to be a Dad" was already too much lawl. This might be better...

[Lelouch]

Bankai , hollow mask , kuroi getsuga. End.. :p

[Lelouch]

You way too underestimate Awakened being, Clare did attain something similiar to Shinigami Shunpo and yet was unable to scratch a hair off Priscilla.
And Priscilla is able to awake 2 times! (Something close to sword released from Esplanda)

oh come on dude , i dont want to argue , but you seriously believe that hmm lets say priscilla ( the strongest awakened , right? ) can beat espada number 1...? I hardly believe that.........

p.s imo you cant compare chars from bleach with other animes 'cause they are imbalanced... nvm.

!

[Lelouch]

Guys alucard is immortal... i mean aizen wtfpawns him everywhere , but being immortal he cant die. >.> So i guess alucard would win 'cause aizen would die of boredom killing him again and again..

[Lelouch]

Thing would get pawned in a sec. Then ichigo would get some kryptonite and go ''muahaha-evil-laugh-muahahaha'' and defeat superman.

[Lelouch]

i seriously LOLed to those who didnt vote DBZ. DBZ chars >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>&g