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Kuroudo
10-04-2007, 02:04 AM
Okay 4-tails would pwn only because i dont know who the hell the other characters are.
TargaryenX
10-04-2007, 02:07 AM
Ok, I guess this is technically the "anime arena" and guts' inner beast doesn't show up until the manga, and Id is a video game character, but that doesn't stop people from throwing around comic book characters and organization 13 and such. Seriously though, you need to watch Ergo Proxy and play Xenogears if you haven't, they're masterpieces.
James Cizuz
10-04-2007, 02:11 AM
You can touch shinigami, just can't cut them. Greed would pound Ichigo into the ground. Greed got his head taken of by a sledge hammer, can Ichigo say he surrivived that? Even if GT could cut through the ultimate shield, he'd just regenerate. Now is Ichigo had a cero, it might be different.
Kimbley creates bombs with his hands. Mustang can engulf you in flames. Scar is just crazy. Oh, and Envy's true form would rape Rock Lee by the way.
Greed does not have the ultimate shield. In his anime yeah, not others.
Also, greed is slow. Oh, and wait, remember that whole thing about reitsu making your skin harder? Greed could not even harm ichigo. It's like the whole naruto vs ichigo thread. Mustang can engulf you in flames, provided flames hurt you, and provided your not fast, somewhat, you know, like a fma character. Your comparing people who can go super-sonic speeds in bleach, to people who are slow as a normal human, and only have certain strong attributes, like steal skin, or making fire, or exploding organs from inside out. Guess what? Greeds skin is not stronger, not even close to kenpachi's. How isn't it? Even if greed was weakened, his skin was pierced by a normal blade by someone slow, and not that strong. He also died from that, we seen ichigo take more punishment in a single fight and stay conscious. Rock lee is not fast by any means(unless of course he releases his gates, but even then) hes simply much faster then human level. Homunculi, envy, and greed included are HUMAN LEVEL in all attributes but there special attribute. They only excel, and will only excel forever in that attribute.
Also, ichigo if he was hit by that hammer would do nothing. Someone swinging a hammer that size would probably produce around 2000 PSI of force.(Normal person swinging a sludge hammer(10 pounds) produces a 800 PSI of force hit on average). Ichigo was hit with such force his was driven into a ground and created a creator, after going through a lightpost. He was damage yeah, but he was still in one piece. For an example, they droped a car from a 10 floor building, it hit the ground with over 10 tons of force, the ground had a few cracks in hit, the car was demolished. For ichigo, with his mass to create a creator that large, he would of have to have been going excess of the speed of a meteor, give or take. That means the force would of have to have been humongous. If ichigos body withstood that, you can simply see that NO homunculi or naruto character could harm him. He wasn't even in vaizard at the time.
Other then that, shikai ichigo is much faster then any humonculi, especially greed, he can also shunpu and create a large beam attack that can destroy something similar to a mountain.(take for instance, the huge hill he cuts in half in soul society). So he would own greed there.
For rock lee though, he has no way of killing envy, but envy has no way of hitting rock lee. Thats the problem. Speed always owns strength, unless the stronger person gets a sucker punch in. Doesn't really matter, lee would end up winning, he would eventually find a way to destroy his whole body or find the remains.
Outlawz
10-04-2007, 02:11 AM
........
Ultimate Shield, ugh sigh.....
It can block anything though normal means. and can regenerate anything. the problem is.
Grimmjow is allot stronger than bankai ichigo and he was barely able to survive that. when your being attacked with a giant move that engulufs you and you cant block theres a large chance that you would be distengrated into nothing.
Once Ichigo shows me he can slice through carbon, I'll believe he can cut the shield.
No because,
In a real non-anime arena fight
1. Ichigo has reiatsu, Greed dosent. reiatsu is an invulnerable shield to anything that dosent have a close ammount of reiatsu
2. Ichigo is invisible to the reiatsuless greed
The rules say you can see and touch them, punching is touching.
Kisame= Drown Mustang cant use fire in water.
That totally worked for Lust, right?
What is kimbleys other power besides using people has human bombs? when you say "no that is incorrect" give me some backup!!
I'm working on it, I might be wrong though. Even if I am though, the minute some one tries to punch him, you're dead.
Greed does not have the ultimate shield. In his anime yeah, not others.
Where does it state that.
Also, greed is slow. Oh, and wait, remember that whole thing about reitsu making your skin harder? Greed could not even harm ichigo. It's like the whole naruto vs ichigo thread.
If the Ultimate shield is taken out, I find it hard to believe reatsu is still allowed. So assuming US and reatsu are allowed, Greed wins, because punching or cutting carbon wont work.Mustang can engulf you in flames, provided flames hurt you, and provided your not fast, somewhat, you know, like a fma character. Your comparing people who can go super-sonic speeds in bleach
Actually I was talking about Naruto characters, so your whole rant is kind of pointless.
James Cizuz
10-04-2007, 02:54 AM
Once Ichigo shows me he can slice through carbon, I'll believe he can cut the shield.
Your funny you know that? Did you know, the harder something is, the more brittle it is? That is why carbon is horrible for shields. It's even funny you would say something that idiotic. Did you know, if you hit a diamond which is basically pure carbon, with a hammer, it will shatter? Why is that? Because the harder it is, the more brittle is is. A shield is determined by 2 things, hardness, and absorption. Take the katana for example, the "burn" mark seperates the 2 metals. The metal in the front has high carbon content, so it is hard, but it's brittle and any hit could shatter or break it. However the back of the blade is low carbon steal, so it's flexible in the back. It's mixing 2 sources, both having weaknesses, but overcoming them through this mix. If it states greed is in fact pure carbon as a shield, then he is done for. As for carbon, carbon is not strong. If thats all he has, even if it was in the way a katana is, hes done for. Carbon is the strongest element, however quite easy in fact to cut through. You could do it yourself, with a bat, a wooden one in fact. Why? Because it's brittle, you wouldn't cut it, it would be more of a slice. Also, getsuga tenshow, such a power able to cut an entire mountain basically must produce a lot of heat, carbon does not have a high melting point.
The rules say you can see and touch them, punching is touching.
That totally worked for Lust, right?
Greed does not have strong hits. Envy does. Greed has a strong shield, for his anime. Greed can hit ichigo(unlikely, but lets just say somehow he fluked out and actually hit ichigo) but all that would happen is nothing. He wouldn't move a inch. He was hit by grimmjow, a force so strong it created a creator when he hit the ground.
I'm working on it, I might be wrong though. Even if I am though, the minute some one tries to punch him, you're dead.
Uhm, thats if he has enough time to do the technique. It's not a "auto touch dead" technique. He would die before he knew what happened.
Where does it state that.
You stated that his shield was strong for his anime. I stated yeah, for his anime, not others.
If the Ultimate shield is taken out, I find it hard to believe reatsu is still allowed. So assuming US and reatsu are allowed, Greed wins, because punching or cutting carbon wont work.
NO ONE SAID IT HAD TO BE TAKEN OUT! His shield is not "ultimate" if in fact it's carbon as you described.
Actually I was talking about Naruto characters, so your whole rant is kind of pointless.
You also made some stupid post about greed owning ichigo.
Orihemi
10-04-2007, 03:28 AM
Naruto uses an attack on Inuyasha, Kagome uses her sacred arrow, and Inuyasha uses his Backlase Wave. Naurto has fallen.
Naruto had a good go though
Alex26
10-04-2007, 04:01 AM
On the first post, it says Inu on demon form. So there's no tessaiga. And i havent read the manga, only the anime, but from what i remember, Inu's youkai form isnt that strong, hell, i think his normal form's stronger because of the attacks he's able to use plus he's able to keep his cool. Same with Sesshomaru, imo, he's weaker when he's on his Youkai form.
Anyway, imo, youkai Inuyasha doesnt stand a chance vs 4 tail, hell, i'll bet a 2 tail will be enough to beat him, things could be different if he was on his normal state.
Note: Naruto while on 4 tails haves a very hard time moving, and yes, Oro himself said it, so i dont think he's able to run fast while on that form.
Inuyasha's at least as fast as a cheetah (lol, yea, look @ wiki)
The only attack Inu can use while on youkai form's his claws that are able to cut through Iron. Naruto didnt got scratched by Orochimaru's sword that can suppodsly cut through anything.
Silhouette
10-04-2007, 12:03 PM
@War: What have I told you about reviving old threads? Is Sessou gonna havta choke a *****?
Just because Ishida is smart, doesn't mean they're even. Kurama is smarter, trust me. Ishida is book/puzzle smart. Kurama is the same, but also ruthless manipulative smart, though he doesn't look it.
Filler eps, eh? *shrug*
Kurama is supposedly around Hiei's speed in Yoko form, meaning that yes - he can "Shunpo".
@Jay:
Ishida is probably smart enough to know or figure out that reckless won't work against Kurama and figure out a clear way to win.
They're both starting off at full power. Kurama doesn't have reiatsu to be sensed. Ishida tends to be arrogant at times also, whereas Kurama tends to actually sit back and gain knowledge on his opponent.
He wouldn't know how smart Kurama was until it was too late.
As for battle ability, I don't think Kurama's plants (that move on their own) can keep up with the combatant's speed. Ishida's arrows are each extremely strong, and Kurama doesn't really have a way to block them.
Kurama wouldn't just throw the seeds/plants at Ishida. He'd probably try to slip a seed or two onto him at close range, or plant them into the ground. But Ishida's an acher, which makes for a bit of a tough situation.. Kurama has been known to plant seeds into his own body before though.
Outlawz
10-04-2007, 12:12 PM
Your funny you know that? Did you know, the harder something is, the more brittle it is? That is why carbon is horrible for shields. It's even funny you would say something that idiotic. Did you know, if you hit a diamond which is basically pure carbon, with a hammer, it will shatter? Why is that? Because the harder it is, the more brittle is is. A shield is determined by 2 things, hardness, and absorption. Take the katana for example, the "burn" mark seperates the 2 metals. The metal in the front has high carbon content, so it is hard, but it's brittle and any hit could shatter or break it. However the back of the blade is low carbon steal, so it's flexible in the back. It's mixing 2 sources, both having weaknesses, but overcoming them through this mix. If it states greed is in fact pure carbon as a shield, then he is done for. As for carbon, carbon is not strong. If thats all he has, even if it was in the way a katana is, hes done for. Carbon is the strongest element, however quite easy in fact to cut through. You could do it yourself, with a bat, a wooden one in fact. Why? Because it's brittle, you wouldn't cut it, it would be more of a slice. Also, getsuga tenshow, such a power able to cut an entire mountain basically must produce a lot of heat, carbon does not have a high melting point
First off, it's fucking anime, no need to get so damn technical. ANd when did GT cut a mountain?
Greed does not have strong hits. Envy does. Greed has a strong shield, for his anime. Greed can hit ichigo(unlikely, but lets just say somehow he fluked out and actually hit ichigo) but all that would happen is nothing. He wouldn't move a inch. He was hit by grimmjow, a force so strong it created a creator when he hit the ground.
Then I guess we have a draw.
Silhouette
10-04-2007, 12:17 PM
Okay 4-tails would pwn only because i dont know who the hell the other characters are.
- Posting in favor of a character just because you're unfamiliar with the other(s) he/she is pitted against
e.g. "Gai would win! Who's Goku? >_>"
Link (http://forums.bleachportal.net/showthread.php?t=21095).
@Tar: It is the Anime Arena, but people can use other charactes, since there's no other arena for non-anime characters.
Of course Anime logic would take priority, meaning that those "ZOMG! READ THE MANGA!" guys can STFU!
Undying
10-04-2007, 03:45 PM
Naruto uses an attack on Inuyasha, Kagome uses her sacred arrow, and Inuyasha uses his Backlase Wave. Naurto has fallen.
Naruto had a good go though
Um, no.
1. There is no Kagome involved. It is only demon mode Inuyasha VS Demon mode naruto.
2. Demon mode Inuyasha does not use Tessaiga.
3. Backlash wave cannot harm Naruto anyway.
@Arcadia: regular Naruto VS Inuyasha? Hardly. Inuyasha will take him down. Regular Naruto is just human, after all.
Starlight
10-04-2007, 04:00 PM
Ivy may have some good combos, but as soon as Renji goes Bankai its over. She could try what Byakuya did and hurt his zanpakuto, but I doubt she could pull that off without getting seriously injured.
silverwolf801
10-04-2007, 04:05 PM
Renji would kill the poor girl.
Seff vi Britannia
10-04-2007, 05:12 PM
/me searches for Sessou's name at the "section moderators" bit. Dosen't find it.
Link. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forum_moderator)
Psuedo-modding = not cool.
Now then, on topic; I'd say four-tails Kyuubi to be honest. Beast Within would be second. I'm pretty sure Ergo Proxy and Id wouldn't last long. Four-tails Kyuubi, while able to move, can stretch his chakra for very long-range attacks, as well as launch an attack with seemingly little effort that broke three of Orochimaru's rashomons. So he'd get my vote to be honest.
The only other one i could think off would be Satan from 666 satan. And that's probably more overpowered than Kyuubi.
Actually, no-
Skullgreymon from digimon. :D
Seff vi Britannia
10-04-2007, 05:16 PM
Massive damage AoE attacks that creates gigantic craters in the ground, long range beams of energy, impressive speed and incredible damage just by hitting without any special attacks.
Naruto can't move in four-tails mode. :3
But yes. Four-tails naruto would wipe the floor with InuYasha. Without his sword, i doubt he pierce the Kyuubi's chakra to even hurt Naruto. He needs some kind of special moves. :D
Naruto, on the other hand, can one-hit-ko an strong chuunin with one hit, and break through three of Orochimaru's ultimate defenses.
Edit-
Orochimaru's Kusangi sword, the sharpest sword in Narutoverse that was able to harm enma (made of adamantite) couldn't pierce 4tkn's chakra shield.
Wacer
10-04-2007, 05:31 PM
i had to vote for L. he is just such a unique and interesting character that he is my favorite in death note
wow not a lot of Mello fans out their
Kuroudo
10-04-2007, 07:53 PM
First off, it's fucking anime, no need to get so damn technical. ANd when did GT cut a mountain?
Then I guess we have a draw.
Getsuga tenshou has more than enough power to slice a mountain. the buildings in Soul Society, made out of spirit particles. destroying the bonds between the spirit particles and the building is extremely hard to do. Spirit Particles are like 50x stronger than reinforced steel, and yet ichigo is able to slice though them with ease as well as kenpachi.
Greed does have ultimate shield, but he cant keep regenerating. He is the most defensive of the other humoncuili all humculi can regenerate. Greed is just like 10x faster and more effective in his version. a humculi cant keep regenerating it takes up some energy besides i bet that even Shirosaki could defeat greed. is Getsuga tenshou is far beyond bankai.
James Cizuz
10-04-2007, 07:56 PM
Getsuga Tenshow cut the soul society hill in half. That "hill" is the size of a small mountain.
Kuroudo
10-04-2007, 07:57 PM
Naruto uses an attack on Inuyasha, Kagome uses her sacred arrow, and Inuyasha uses his Backlase Wave. Naurto has fallen.
Naruto had a good go though
Yeah im not gonna repeat what undying said because that statemate is like super false. if i could i would have brought Shirosaki into this but he would pwn all of them.
Kuroudo
10-04-2007, 08:05 PM
@War: What have I told you about reviving old threads? Is Sessou gonna havta choke a *****?
Just because Ishida is smart, doesn't mean they're even. Kurama is smarter, trust me. Ishida is book/puzzle smart. Kurama is the same, but also ruthless manipulative smart, though he doesn't look it.
Filler eps, eh? *shrug*
Kurama is supposedly around Hiei's speed in Yoko form, meaning that yes - he can "Shunpo".
@Jay:
They're both starting off at full power. Kurama doesn't have reiatsu to be sensed. Ishida tends to be arrogant at times also, whereas Kurama tends to actually sit back and gain knowledge on his opponent.
He wouldn't know how smart Kurama was until it was too late.
Kurama wouldn't just throw the seeds/plants at Ishida. He'd probably try to slip a seed or two onto him at close range, or plant them into the ground. But Ishida's an acher, which makes for a bit of a tough situation.. Kurama has been known to plant seeds into his own body before though.
The arrogant part, was only when he got pissed because the enemy had hurt or killed someone he cared for.
Kairya pwned Ran'Tao and (i forget that bounto)
Mayuri killed Uryus Grandpa
i suppose that YYH characters are strong enough to compete or beat bleach characters now eh? how come no one includes Yuske? i doubt they can hold up to the espada, or Aizen for that matter.
Silhouette
10-04-2007, 09:51 PM
LOL! You're a fool. YYH characters are more than capable of beating Bleach characters. Quit being a fanboy. They've always been able to beat them, you're making it sound like its out of nowhere.
No one uses Yusuke because people are more focused on Hiei and Kurama, obviously. Yusuke, I believe, is stronger than both of them.
But I know you by now, and before you make a stupid, "Yusuke vs [insert Bleach character here]"... Don't?
Btw, Ishida is arrogant, it doesn't matter who it is. Don't tell me you haven't noticed.
Kuroudo
10-04-2007, 11:27 PM
my friend kept telling me that Xenmas, oh my god he so hard to beat he must be god or somthing. so i told him i could find a character that could beat xenmas.
Kuroudo
10-04-2007, 11:29 PM
LOL! You're a fool. YYH characters are more than capable of beating Bleach characters. Quit being a fanboy. They've always been able to beat them, you're making it sound like its out of nowhere.
No one uses Yusuke because people are more focused on Hiei and Kurama, obviously. Yusuke, I believe, is stronger than both of them.
But I know you by now, and before you make a stupid, "Yusuke vs [insert Bleach character here]"... Don't?
Btw, Ishida is arrogant, it doesn't matter who it is. Don't tell me you haven't noticed.
That might change once bleach is finished. but for now 95% of bleach characters can get owned by YYH characters. i always thought old animes where really strong.
most nottably the extremely un-fair cheapness that the shinigami have the ones not allowed in anime arena.
(Invisiblity to anyone without reiatsu)
(Invulnerablility to anything wtithout reiatsu)
(ability to pass though physical objects)
Silhouette
10-04-2007, 11:32 PM
What did we discuss about making threads with characters that we don't know the limits of? This is pretty much the Espada vs XIII all over again. -_-"
There's no point in making any thread with Aizen, not just because he's unknown, but because of that overrated hypnosis..
Xemnas would rape Aizen... if not for hypnosis, the one magical ability of his that has no loopholes, no weaknesses, and can effect anyone of any power level. Even the god-like Marvel/DC characters that can manipulate time and space will fall victim to Aizen, simply because he can toy with their senses.
[/sarcastic rant]
Seriously though, there's no point in debating against Aizen, since all I would say in Xemnas' defense would be countered* by, "Aizen would hypnotize him, and make him fly into space where he can't breathe. Fight over."
*typo.
Silhouette
10-04-2007, 11:36 PM
No, not 95%.. The stronger characters would... nvm. I won't feed you info that would result in more random vs threads. -_-"
This particular fight depends on how long Ishida has till he shorts out, and how much energy he can absorb before Kurama does something cunning.
Kuroudo
10-04-2007, 11:37 PM
No, not 95%.. The stronger characters would... nvm. I won't feed you info that would result in more random vs threads. -_-"
This particular fight depends on how long Ishida has till he shorts out, and how much energy he can absorb before Kurama does something cunning.
thats why its bad if he starts out in final form.
Klavier Gavin
10-04-2007, 11:41 PM
I believe Kurama takes this after a tough fight, it's brains vs brains here. Kurama is able to stay calm even facing unwanted situations, like in the Dark Tournament where his mother was captured by one of the demon's underling he's fighting. He held his cool and handled the situation well.
I doubt Kurama would know about Ishida's time limit in the final quincy form unless Ishida thinks about it too much and tries to finish him off in the time limit in a berserked manner. The thing is how is Kurama going to get to Ishida, who's a ranged fighter with speed but I'm going for his victory though.
Kuroudo
10-04-2007, 11:41 PM
What did we discuss about making threads with characters that we don't know the limits of? This is pretty much the Espada vs XIII all over again. -_-"
There's no point in making any thread with Aizen, not just because he's unknown, but because of that overrated hypnosis..
Xemnas would rape Aizen... if not for hypnosis, the one magical ability of his that has no loopholes, no weaknesses, and can effect anyone of any power level. Even the god-like Marvel/DC characters that can manipulate time and space will fall victim to Aizen, simply because he can toy with their senses.
[/sarcastic rant]
Seriously though, there's no point in debating against Aizen, since all I would say in Xemnas' defense would be countered* by, "Aizen would hypnotize him, and make him fly into space where he can't breathe. Fight over."
*typo.
Not my fault, my friend pawaroon wanted to know if this guy could beat Xenmas, i just wanted to know people's vote on this....jeeze.
Kuroudo
10-04-2007, 11:43 PM
I believe Kurama takes this after a tough fight, it's brains vs brains here. Kurama is able to stay calm even facing unwanted situations, like in the Dark Tournament where his mother was captured by one of the demon's underling he's fighting. He held his cool and handled the situation well.
I doubt Kurama would know about Ishida's time limit in the final quincy form unless Ishida thinks about it too much and tries to finish him off in the time limit in a berserked manner. The thing is how is Kurama going to get to Ishida, who's a ranged fighter with speed but I'm going for his victory though.
your name reminded me of somthing...
Kurama = power of all plant life
vs
Hitsugaya?
im pretty sure Ice kills plants?
Silhouette
10-04-2007, 11:56 PM
Where did Hitsugaya come from? Kurama isn't just plants btw, he is capable of many other things. Kurama is also much more powerful than Hitsu, not to mention significantly calmer and intelligent. But this is rather off topic.
And please, don't make a Kurama vs Hitsu thread? Might've been something similar already made actually..
Kuroudo
10-04-2007, 11:57 PM
Where did Hitsugaya come from? Kurama isn't just plants btw, he is capable of many other things. Kurama is also much more powerful than Hitsu, not to mention significantly calmer and intelligent. But this is rather off topic.
And please, don't make a Kurama vs Hitsu thread? Might've been something similar already made actually..
im not dont worry. you're like a moderator but your not a moderator.
Silhouette
10-05-2007, 12:00 AM
Am I the one running around with, "The Official Moderator of the Anime Arena" in my sig? No. I'm just a concerned member. This section has been hit with a tornado, and needs to be saved... somehow..
Kuroudo
10-05-2007, 12:04 AM
Am I the one running around with, "The Official Moderator of the Anime Arena" in my sig? No. I'm just a concerned member. This section has been hit with a tornado, and needs to be saved... somehow..
¿tan tu no del vigilante?
by the way if this thread has been hit by a torando
then the "most powerful female character" thread has been hit with a meteor.
it went from most powerful female character -> Rukia Suxs debate -> Naruto verse vs Greed, Hohenheim and Kimbley -> Ichigo vs Greed.
Mi amigo, por favor excepto el hilo de rosca te daré mil Pesos
Silhouette
10-05-2007, 12:22 AM
Any reason as to why you're switching between Spanish and English?
I'm not a vigilante really. And I'm not the only one that does this on the entire forum, despite what you may believe, or what that moron Seff says.
And I didn't say this thread was hit, its the entire section..
Back on topic though, does anyone else have anything to add to this debate before it becomes an Ichigo vs Superman thread.. or something else entirely random? Speed, limits, special abilities, intelligence, stamina/endurance?
Kuroudo
10-05-2007, 12:24 AM
Any reason as to why you're switching between Spanish and English?
I'm not a vigilante really. And I'm not the only one that does this on the entire forum, despite what you may believe, or what that moron Seff says.
And I didn't say this thread was hit, its the entire section..
Back on topic though, does anyone else have anything to add to this debate before it becomes an Ichigo vs Superman thread.. or something else entirely random?
uhhh im 25% mexican?
who the hell is seff?
why would someone make something as stupid as a ichigo vs superman fight? superman is uber as an american boy can dream but apparently that boy dosent know anything about anime.
by the way what ever happened to my Anime/Manga vs Comics thread?
was my last thread decisive?
Nubaa
10-05-2007, 12:25 AM
Ryuk.
I rooted for Light most of the time, but I don't actually like him.
Kuroudo
10-05-2007, 12:25 AM
Any reason as to why you're switching between Spanish and English?
I'm not a vigilante really. And I'm not the only one that does this on the entire forum, despite what you may believe, or what that moron Seff says.
And I didn't say this thread was hit, its the entire section..
Back on topic though, does anyone else have anything to add to this debate before it becomes an Ichigo vs Superman thread.. or something else entirely random?
uhhh im 25% mexican?
who the hell is seff?
why would someone make something as stupid as a ichigo vs superman fight? superman is uber as an american boy can dream but apparently that boy dosent know anything about anime.
by the way what ever happened to my Anime/Manga vs Comics thread?
was my last post decicive
also i do watch Avatar the last airbender. its relating to an old thread. i know aangs capabilites, its just that a rasengan would take out aang in two or one hits. i am looking foward to book 3: fire. he has hair now! maybe hes a ancestor of kriillin.
Damascus
10-05-2007, 04:47 AM
Since the previous thread seems to have been inactive for a long time, I am restarting it, because I'm really interested to see some responses...
Here's the hypothetical situation: Kira has become real. Someone has begun passing judgment on the criminals of the world, and at the same time, people do not commit as many crimes. Though many argue that murder is evil because you are still killing other humans, others argue that Kira's sacrifice of criminals leads to a better world without crime. Do you support Kira? Or are you in support of those trying to take him down?
Aesthetique
10-05-2007, 10:14 AM
Out of fear, I'd support him. After all, what he does doesn't seem at that bad, ne? Killing criminals... reducing the crime rate...
On the other hand, who is he to pretend to be God?
Realistically, I'd prefer to stay out of this mess. =/
Juujika
10-05-2007, 10:43 AM
http://www.sendspace.com/file/114psi
Enjoy all :)
Caesar
10-05-2007, 02:43 PM
Nice chapter..
It is this weeks chapter right? Didnt see any raws yet.
Oh and nice engish expresions they had.. zomg
To be honest, I'd support him. People would be too scared to commit crime, that's what this world needs, people too scared to commit crimes.
Cleric
10-05-2007, 04:26 PM
Even though ti's the JOJO scan it's still pretty fast . . .
Miyagi Rikku
10-05-2007, 06:03 PM
http://forums.bleachportal.net/forumdisplay.php?f=20
srsly if you ask in the wrong section you won't really get help. =.=
What anime is this from?
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/1000/animeje2et8.png
Chikiru
10-06-2007, 02:37 AM
i like l but EVERY ONE seems to like him :(
Cleric
10-06-2007, 04:37 AM
Where did you find the render and what were you looking up when you found it?
I don't know off the top of my head but I will try my best to find it . . .
EndlessSky
10-06-2007, 04:45 AM
Are you sure that is from an actual anime and not just an artwork done in anime/manga style?
The only ones I can think of would be Gunslinger Girl or Gun X Sword. I doubt its one of those though.
Cleric
10-06-2007, 05:00 AM
I've seen both of the anime's you mentioned and I know for a fact that it's not either . . .
there's a user at gamerenders.com whoes username is broly fighter, which matches the name on the render . . . and when I checked their profile I found a link to this site
http://www.animeyume.org/
where he/she said the original was . . . at least I narrowed down the search a little . . . I hope ^_^
*EDIT* found it ^_^ (although most of what I am finding is figures) it looks like it's from a game called Zoku Satsuriku no Jango and the figures match the render . . .
Thanks. *sends 5000 Vbux and +rep*
Cleric
10-06-2007, 05:30 AM
If only I did this well on division contests . . .
thank you ^_^ V,,
Aesthetique
10-06-2007, 12:40 PM
Thinking back, I really loved Light. The manga was done in such a way that the reader would sympathize with him... that's what it felt like to me, anyway. x3
Bandaid
10-06-2007, 12:45 PM
I like L best - I love his little quirks, like how he holds stuff, and eats sugar...
Raito comes next. They both have freaky high IQs.... >_<
(Misa really annoys me though...)
Outlawz
10-06-2007, 08:58 PM
I like L best - I love his little quirks, like how he holds stuff, and eats sugar...
Raito comes next. They both have freaky high IQs.... >_<
(Misa really annoys me though...)
Who is this Raito you speak of?
Joe Black
10-07-2007, 01:17 AM
Alright, these fighters both start with the letter "K", look somewhat feminine, and are drawn by the same artist. Coincidence, I don't think so!
Kurama [Yu Yu Hakusho]
or
Kurapica [Hunter X Hunter]
For the sake of Kurama not having a 'god mode' advantage with Yoko form, assume both fighters have the same combat speed. Note that both fighters are intellectuals in the heat of battle, and both can achieve high levels of power. Oh, and assume that Kurapica, this one time, can use his power boosts to 100% Nen efficiency, although his opponent is not a spider.
Metal Chain or Rose Whip?
ichi-ichi-tactic
10-07-2007, 04:45 AM
Raito is a mistranslation right?
Barbaroi
10-07-2007, 12:34 PM
Has anyone else noticed that Kariya looks exactly like Meier Link from "Vampire Hunter D, Bloodlust"?? Twins maybe?
Retrowiccan
10-07-2007, 02:34 PM
Raito is how Light is spelt using katakana in Japanese, that is the correct way to write Light's name but most westerners write it Light. Also I believe the official way was to write 'Light' but as Katakana was used 'Raito' also applies.
Dope Hat
10-07-2007, 03:24 PM
I don't think they look the same. Ôo;
They have a different face form, the body also looks different.
The only thing they have in common, imo, is their hairstyle.
btw...should this be in the "Bleach Anime" section?
Kuroudo
10-07-2007, 04:36 PM
Defiently Kurama for this one. Hes intelligent like hell probably an IQ of like 900 or something. + he can find his enemies weakness quickly.
moonflow
10-07-2007, 09:54 PM
if you have something like adobe audition and a microphone you should be able to do it easily. just record your voice then distort it, add effects w/e
changing your voice without recording it first shouldnt be to hard either.
i would use an external effects unit like a multi track since i have one, but i presume its possible in adobe.
moonflow
10-07-2007, 10:00 PM
i'd stay out of it.
im not gonna say i support killing people, as some crimes like theft and bank robery dont really deserve death imo.
as most people who commit these crimes do so because of a faild and flawd system that has left them poor and desperate in the first place. in which case the real criminals are the greedy fat cats that shower themselves in rich's and leave the poor to rot, but thts another topic ^^;;
however the offing of criminals is something i could easily turn a blind eye to.
moonflow
10-07-2007, 10:12 PM
i would use it. but for extreme cases only.
i wouldn't be like ' yes now i am god mwahahaha'
thats just big headed and silly, not to mention asking for trouble.
if kira had of killed only one a month and the most dangerous criminals only, it would of probably went unnoticed and he would of avoided the whole L thing.
but that wouldnt of made for a very exciteing anime now would it D
besides light is very intelligent and arrogant and kinda gets off on the whole fight of intelect between him and L.
edit- prized angel brings up a good point about going neither to heaven or hell.
this could be a good reason NOT to use the book[unless you were clearly going to hell, then you might as well take your chances ^^] but does bring up many questions.
like ok so there is a heaven and hell then huh. and where exactly will i be going instead.
Outlawz
10-07-2007, 10:34 PM
Raito is how Light is spelt using katakana in Japanese, that is the correct way to write Light's name but most westerners write it Light. Also I believe the official way was to write 'Light' but as Katakana was used 'Raito' also applies.
I feel that this is appropriate.
http://pbfcomics.com/archive/0PBF61009BC-Weeaboo.jpg
Retrowiccan
10-08-2007, 03:29 AM
what's that supposed to mean?????
moonflow
10-08-2007, 05:43 AM
light- i'll trade you my death note for a bag of weed.
L- i forgot, what was i doing again?
light - i miss L , he gave the best foot massages
Ryuk - daaaaam rems a hottie
Wacer
10-08-2007, 06:09 PM
I would have to say in terms of coolness Kagutsuchi wins their. The whole dragon with the sword in its mouth is just so neat. But if course he is just too overpowered
Aesthetique
10-09-2007, 01:49 AM
xD I'm sure there could definitely be a real life genius detective out there, somewhere in the world. n______n b
S-puff
10-09-2007, 04:22 AM
that was so awesome I watched it over 20 times loling and rolling on the floor
Aesthetique
10-09-2007, 10:02 AM
Maaaaaiiiiii ftw. <3333
Damascus
10-09-2007, 06:40 PM
As much as I love Misa, that flash was freakin hilarious, I couldn't stop laughing XD
This has to be the most listened to song on my iPod, if only i could throw this flash on there... Greatest flash ever xD
momo-taichou
10-10-2007, 06:24 AM
misa misa: Light im going to leave you alone and let you mind your own business
Light: no i love you i want you with me forever and ever!!!!!!
misa misa: ehhh....NO!
KruZnik47
10-10-2007, 10:13 AM
i'd go with natsuki, cause i like the combi gunnie with doggie :Haha
mthegreatone
10-10-2007, 05:54 PM
I saw this thread a couple of times before but I was too lazy to post. :Haha Hum...lets see, whatever the name of the child of Natsuki's is.
Duran.
***smacks you in the fact for not knowing***
:p
Jedi Taicho
10-11-2007, 01:05 AM
Hiatus, as stated numerous times before....
Man i just wish they would at least finish the Soul Society Arc, but i'm excited to see/hear what death note is gonna be like. Hopefully it has a great first impression like FMA or Bleach.
AS is tight, they can only run a show for so long before they throw it on a season hiatus, even if that means not finishing the episodes that are in the season. If it goes past a certain episode or time frame they have to quit for a TV season or 2, and they've been pushing the boundaries with Bleach xD They're catching up really fast.
I'm wondering if they're gonna air the Bount Arc or not >__> I would hope not but... Never know with this stuff....
Since DN is only 37 episodes, it would be VERY nice of them to run the entire show straight through 37 weeks, though around thanksgiving, xmas, new years and the occasional AS saturday movie night, they always change their line-up/re-run crap and air specials, so there will be weeks without DN, but for the sake of our sanity and practicality, air the damn thing straight!!! To stop at episode 25 for a season would be stupid, since the next part is only 12 episodes long.
Death Note is probably gonna do MUCH better then FMA or Bleach. It already has a massive fanbase, and now that its coming to mainstream TV theres gonna be a mass of fans running and screaming in... Which IS good because more fan will give us more DN merchandise over here, yet is BAD because stupid n00bs will rape the fandom with their dumbwadness and for the love on my sanity Hot Topic... Please, please PLEASE no crappy ghetto goth DN shirts... I better gets a DAMN HAWT Mello shirt outta this deal..
And a shirt with just a giant L on it xDD That'd be nice too
And a decent looking hoodie would be nice too :(
what is death note
iv never seen it befor
AS is tight, they can only run a show for so long before they throw it on a season hiatus, even if that means not finishing the episodes that are in the season. If it goes past a certain episode or time frame they have to quit for a TV season or 2, and they've been pushing the boundaries with Bleach xD They're catching up really fast.
How exactly are they "catching up"? New episodes air in Japan once a week, new dubbed episodes air in the U.S. once a week. As long as adult swim takes as many one or two week breaks as the Japanese broadcaster does, they will never catch up. And, since they are so far behind the Japanese episodes, even if they didn't they still don't have to worry.
Adult Swim HAS been known to skip fillers if deemed appropiate. In the SS Arc, the random ones every 15 episodes or so aren't worth cutting, but like a straight arc of Fillers, especially the Bount one could easily go under the knife. I doubt the more current fillers would at this point, but the anime could've seriously done WITHOUT the Bount arc and if enough people gripe/they see that its a waste of time and will get people uninterested they will cut it... One could hope anyway, but they've done it before so who knows.
Chikiru
10-11-2007, 04:54 AM
it wuold be pretty cool if they showed deathnote but then i guess that'll mean bleach will be taken off
FullMetal Rebel
10-11-2007, 05:18 AM
So when does this party get started? The voice overs are going to be great. I'll be watching just to see the part before L's death. After that we all know that it goes downhill from there.
They should take Inuyasha off for awhile, that series is seriously played out.
Its time for Inuyasha to go away FOREVER >__> Buy the damn DVDs, they're like $5 a piece at discount stores now xDD
Looks like Cowboy Bebop is getting played out again too, which by all means it should be played through once a year.. Inuyasha just needs to stop X__X
Would be nice if they replayed Trigun again soon, especially since Geneon distriubtion has gone over, if you don't have all the Trigun dvds go hunt them down now (they'll be dirt cheap) otherwise they're gone forever.
Big O has been replayed alot this past year too... Which is good xD For some reason, I can never get tired of that show *pokes schwarzvald with a giant pointy stick*
Barbaroi
10-11-2007, 10:37 AM
Does Inuyasha even end? I mean the AS series, not movies or anything. Cuz from what I've seen, it's like they never get to killing Naraku or w/e and it just starts back over, which really makes me mad (I hate not having closure)
L'Arc Enzeru
10-11-2007, 10:47 AM
I hate Naruto =P
Rolling Star teh best XD
YUI pwns !!!
Aesthetique
10-11-2007, 10:54 AM
Actually, I'd have to say that I prefer the Bleach openings more. Well, until the latest one. >_> But the first two openings were le sex. <3
Cassie
10-11-2007, 11:40 PM
Does Inuyasha even end? I mean the AS series, not movies or anything. Cuz from what I've seen, it's like they never get to killing Naraku or w/e and it just starts back over, which really makes me mad (I hate not having closure)
no it doesn't end. neither the series, nor the manga i believe.
Wow... IMO Bleach was doing great, it'll be pretty disappointing for people not to see the SS Arc conclusion on TV, rather than get the DVDS
FullMetal Rebel
10-12-2007, 01:19 AM
Inuyasha goes on forever...............................
The anime series got canceled some time ago anyway. Both the dub and japanese version. The manga still goes on to this day.
Dr. Walker
10-12-2007, 03:47 AM
So this is my current situation? On my extensive anime DVD shelf, I found a lil gem that I've had there for quite some time: the complete Noir thinpak DVD box.
Now, I dont remember when or why I bought it, but what matters is that I have it. What matters most is should I watch it? I've heard both good and bad things about it, and if the bad things outweigh the good, I just might sell it, which I don't want to cause the box is pretty!
So, anime fans! Here is my question to you all: Should I watch Noir, and possibly risk selling it? Or should I never watch it, and simply let it sit there looking pretty while collecting dust, which I will eventually clean every saturday?
And uh yeah...This can also serve as a general Noir discussion thread if you guys are savvy with that. :-D
Cassie
10-12-2007, 04:07 AM
Read the description, and think about whether or not you'd like it. If you want to sell it, then don't watch it, and just download the fansub or the dvdrip and sell it. Personally, I'd watch it, because I'd never go through the hassle of selling it. If you have it, watch it, there's no reason not to.
Dr. Walker
10-12-2007, 04:12 AM
I did read the description, and I definitely am digging it from just that...but descriptions aren't everything, mang.
Lets take Quentin Tarantino's Death Proof for instance: its a movie about a guy who can't get his money maker up any other way other than killing young ladies in his stunt car. Okay, sounds pretty crappy, yet was it crappy? :<
a sexy penguin
10-12-2007, 06:20 AM
i think this is awesome but why would they put bleach on hiatus when there already deep in to the S.S. arc
momo-taichou
10-12-2007, 07:26 AM
i like inuyasha :<
hahha XD
death note is really coming to adult swim O_O!!!
Dr. Walker
10-12-2007, 09:32 AM
Adult Swim HAS been known to skip fillers if deemed appropiate. In the SS Arc, the random ones every 15 episodes or so aren't worth cutting, but like a straight arc of Fillers, especially the Bount one could easily go under the knife. I doubt the more current fillers would at this point, but the anime could've seriously done WITHOUT the Bount arc and if enough people gripe/they see that its a waste of time and will get people uninterested they will cut it... One could hope anyway, but they've done it before so who knows.
Thats not gonna happen; they can't magically edit out Ririn, Claude and Nova without butchering...
And, Ryuuken ultimately phails @ lyfe for thinking DN outright sucked. So there. You got WALKERED!
uchiha_madara
10-12-2007, 12:59 PM
the name of this part of the forum is funny. it reminds me of naruto arena the onlline rpg game(not web based)i got banned from that site by YONDAIME(EVIL ***** HE WAS) NEVER EVEN GAVE ME ONE :sad :whatevah: CHANCE!!!!!anyway does anyone play it?
Sasukemb
10-12-2007, 04:22 PM
Kakashi would win with his adaptation :Domo Mangekyo Sharingan
Tablo.
10-12-2007, 04:49 PM
Aaahahahaa....
Wrong section. >.> Shoulda be in the gaming section or sumthing.
Well, yeah, I do. Actually.
I lost pretty much one in five games.
(Look, the misspelled words are what I want them to be, thank you.)
Ryohei
10-12-2007, 04:58 PM
You mean www.naruto-arena.com? =)
You got banned for your poor spelling and grammar. Good day Sir.
Monkey_man
10-12-2007, 06:41 PM
Death Note is probably gonna do MUCH better then FMA or Bleach. It already has a massive fanbase.
You know where you are posting right club BLEACH.
anyway......
there is going not going to be anymore Bleach atleast I think so I am 90% sure they are stopping Bleach and putting Deathnote in Bleach
^Um.. I'm talking about the mainstream fanbase, NOT CB!
Death Note is gonna appeal to a different and wider audience then Bleach and FMA, which are both pretty light and humorous shows. Death Note is more solemn and serious then funny, and there are people who eat that stuff up.
Also all of the emo and goth kids i know are obsessed with Death Note .___. This is also why I fear what Hot Topic will do with DN, because its right up their alley... though not nessicarily the alley of hardcore fans
OH!!! I forgot about the mod souls!!!! X__X
Well crap, they can't skip it then
Haha I was talking with this guy at lunch who was raving about how much he loved the Bount arc.... made me slightly ill XD
Ryohei
10-12-2007, 06:54 PM
Me??,Tobi.
@Topic, Yes. I used to play narutoarena =3
No the uchiha_madara guy, he said he got banned from the site. Because for his poor spelling and grammar.
uchiha_madara
10-12-2007, 07:53 PM
your right and it was not fair.
Seff vi Britannia
10-12-2007, 10:11 PM
No the uchiha_madara guy, he said he got banned from the site. Because of* his poor spelling and grammar.
Heh, couldn't resist.
And i used to play this but i sucked at it, lol. It fails anyway in all honesty.
Slow paced anime and a bit weird. The OST is quite nice though :)
wow you realy thought this out i like it
ithink ichigo will win
-xp- Link
10-13-2007, 12:54 AM
man you have to update lol...ichi was bad ass when he fought grimmjow for the second time with his hollow mask lol...but idk man its tough cloud and ichigo...::sigh:: idk but i have to give it to ichigo lmao
Jethro
10-13-2007, 12:57 AM
It would have to be between cloud and ichigo
Silhouette
10-13-2007, 02:08 AM
NOES! More necrobumpers... with poor responses!?
Everyone knows that Auron is the most badass character in the existance of everything. Who else can get a fatal wound from the most powerful summoner/sorceress in the game.. crawl across half a friggin' continent through monsters, harsh weather and whatnot to bring a message to someone.. THEN die..
No one, that's who. kthxbai.
Cloud sucks btw.
Oh, and someone's going to say he died before reaching Kimahri. LIES! Auron states himself that he died afterwards, when he explains everything to Tidus.
@tyler: Thought out? Yeah, no.
FullMetal Rebel
10-13-2007, 03:53 AM
Ichigo is in no way badass. That list could do a little fixing too.
Anyway vote goes to Vincent. I've always been a sucker for guys in red with dual pistols.
NOES! More necrobumpers... with poor responses!?
Newbs love this section huh?
FullMetal Rebel
10-13-2007, 04:07 AM
Death Note is gonna appeal to a different and wider audience then Bleach and FMA, which are both pretty light and humorous shows. Death Note is more solemn and serious then funny, and there are people who eat that stuff up.
FMA is pretty serious(disturbing at times even), it sure isn't for the weak hearted. Episode 7 is down right disturbing.
Death Note overall is serious, just not as serious as FMA. Those first 5 minutes show how serious Death Note is when Light discovers the DN though.
Princess Gheyfu
10-13-2007, 04:32 AM
What will the title, genre(s), demographic and plot be (in an ANN format)?
Ex: Mine:
Title:
Kurokku-Kinmu Giza-Giza
(Clock-Work Jagged)
Genre:
Slice of Life, Comedy, Drama, Psychological, Horror, Mystery, (and here's the kicker) Mecha
Demographic:
Seinen
Plot: Enter Miranda Henran*. She is the ordinary, bored out of her mind, fem-taku currently attending middle school alongside her odd group of friends. However, not all is to be seen on the outside, that reflect the inside. You see, each of these students in this school may seem like any other, but inside each of their minds lies a locked inner core, which contains each of their uttermost secret pains and struggles, as well as the most human-like problems, taken into drastic measures. However, when a friend of Miranda's, attempts to kill herself, some of her friends begin taking drugs, one begins to find himself in a sadistical harem, and other disturbing elements, its Miranda's job to unlock the inner mind of her friends and even those who aren't, to help bring their lives into a much broader perspective, and to show them the right track to life. This insight, however, may require some deeper symbolism and exploitation to discover, as she soon finds out. Then, she meets Mi-ikusen-shiki**...
Notes:
* = My last name was roughly translated to japanese to contain my hidden identity secret. :p
** = Mi-Kusen-shiki literaly translates to "Type 3000"
List of general ANN Genres:
- Adventure : a quest! action! thrills! faraway and exotic lands!
- Comedy : it's funny, it makes you laugh
- Drama : serious and intense emotions... you know, dramatic stuff!
- Fantasy : a medieval-like world, where swords–and often magic–rule
- Historical : based (although sometimes loosely) on historical places and/or events
- Horror : meant to strike fear, although too often it only manages to be gory
- Magical girl : normal girl who transforms into a magical defender of peace and good
- Mecha : those giant robots that kick ass
- Military : focus on the military life, the army
- Mystery : a secret must be unraveled through detective work
- Police : focus on cops, law enforcement
- Psychological : messes with your head
- Romance : love is an important part of the story
- Science Fiction : spaceships, aliens, laser guns... you know, the future!
- Slice of Life : small vignettes of ordinary life
- Shoujo : emphasis on relationships and character development, primarily aimed at girls
- Shounen : emphasis on action and fighting, primarily aimed at boys
- Sports : soccer, baseball, basketball, you name it
- Supernatural : has ghosts/demons/mysticism as central theme
Demographics:
Shonen: For teenage boys (13-20) (Ex: Bleach, Initial D, and Boys Be...)
Shoujo: For teenage girls (13-20) (Ex: Sailor Moon, Cutey Honey)
Seinen: For younger men (21-35) (Ex: Alien 9, Ghost in the Shell, Mush-Shi, Darker than Black)
Josei: For Younger women (21-35) (Ex: Nodame Cantabile, NANA, Gokusen)
momo-taichou
10-13-2007, 05:25 AM
I dont watch FMA ^^
BUt i do like death note....no, i loveeee death notee!!!!
@da_quincy: just because we are on CB doesnt mean Bleach is automatically our favorite anime
I mean.....YU yu hakusho is my fav anime...
Joe Black
10-13-2007, 06:26 AM
Ryuk: On second thought Light, I think it'd be best if you just give me the Death Note now.
Light's Dad: My son is Kira. . . EXCELLENT! *air guitar*
Tablo.
10-13-2007, 07:22 AM
Title:
Ketteiteki Furi-ku
(Definite Freak)
Genre:
Slice of Life, Fantasy, slight Shounen, Supernatural, Psychological
Demographic:
Shonen, really.
Plot:
Kisaki... Is one. Weird. Being.
Her life isn't sweet, but isn't sour either... Well, think about it. A grandparent that don't care about their daughter-in-law and their grandchild; another grandparent that cares, but is far away; grades going down... down... down; apparently don't have any skills but computers; and finally, she was in the verge of being sane.
Even after that, she had a new addition: Her imagination was way overwhelming, and now she has to deal with it. The.... things that lived in there was definitely lost, and even when it was her own, it wasn't going the way she wanted it to be. Correction: the way it SHOULD be. She's definitely turning insane.
How is she going to deal with a invisible cloud of raining anti-lucks? And how is she going to deal with.... pretty much EVERYTHING?
CnC: XD It's really true. I'm turning insane.
KholdStare
10-13-2007, 10:41 AM
Kakashi would win with his adaptation :Domo Mangekyo Sharingan
The mangekyou sharingan requires some really precise aiming which I don't think would be possible for Kakashi to do when Gai is moving at full speed. When Sasuke first met Gai he stated that Gai's speed was greater than Kakashi's.
Setsuna Ai
10-13-2007, 07:47 PM
Indeed it was slow-paced but I liked it. Maybe it's because I dig chicks kicking ass but it was great for me. Even though it got cheesy at times, it was a nice watch and it definitely did not waste my time Still I don't see why you should sell it just because it sucks. I bought a lot of anime dvds in my day that sucked but i keep it just to show off to other dorks that I'm a collector (haha).
Heh, couldn't resist.
And i used to play this but i sucked at it, lol. It fails anyway in all honesty.
I put that in there on purpose.. I swear!
Kuroudo
10-14-2007, 02:35 AM
Ichigo is in no way badass. That list could do a little fixing too.
Anyway vote goes to Vincent. I've always been a sucker for guys in red with dual pistols.
Newbs love this section huh?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-kAK6Jf7lg&eurl=
The ichigo bad ass moment....
Vincent dosent have dual pistols he has a single triple-barrled magnum.
Cait Sith < Barret < Yuffie < Cid < Tifa.
Tifa = Loz, Yazoo < Kadaj.
Vincent >>>> Kadaj
Cloud >>>>> Kadaj
Sephiroth >>>>>>> Kadaj.
Vincent >> Kadaj
Vincent >>> Rosso
Vincent >>> Azul
Vincent >>> Neros (weiss's bro)
Vincent >>>>>>> Shelke
Vincent <<<< Sephiroth
Cloud > Sephiroth
Cloud >> Vincent
me94555221
10-14-2007, 03:32 AM
mai's cause of the dragon and flames. :) but he's too overpowered. they should balance it out somehow.
Ren Höek
10-14-2007, 05:09 AM
it looks like they are continuing on with Genshiken but when they left off the had just entered the Comic-fest(?) and now Genshiken 2 starts with Oqiue and Kuchiki already in the group.
there is a torrent on Dattebayo
and it also says this:
Dattebayo picks up Genshiken Season 2, Bleach dropped
Due to complexity of the new series and also due to schedule conflict with Bleach, Dattebayo regrettably announces that Genshiken will replace Bleach on our anime lineup
is this true Bleach has been dropped? :eek13:
Jedi Taicho
10-14-2007, 06:05 AM
^ I feel the same way. I always love dragons.
Wacer
10-14-2007, 08:49 AM
knowing me i would most likely lose it being that i am so forgetful
but if i did have one i do not think i would be able to use it. I would just fill to guilty about about it, plus all that power is going to start going to your head sooner or later
polarisxday79
10-14-2007, 08:52 AM
If you were walking along in your life and the death note just fell afront of your feet. Would you pick it up and start using it, killing those who you hated? Would you destroy such an evil document?
hell yea i would, but id have them write their wills to me and give me all their assests and money first
T_Ichigo
10-14-2007, 03:45 PM
haha I would use Death note, of course .. I would kill all the Zoo-workers and give all the imprisoned animals freedom.
Anarchy
10-14-2007, 07:22 PM
I would use it an d take over the world. . . it's the last piece of the puzzle I need. . .
Miyagi Rikku
10-14-2007, 08:03 PM
"Im bringing sexy back.." "yeah!" XD lawlz.
"Chocolate, did you just say chocolate? CHOCOLATEEE" XD lawlz
XD lol worthy
Kiyone TB
10-14-2007, 09:59 PM
I love all child :) !!! They are really cool and cute ^^
Monkey_man
10-14-2007, 10:11 PM
no what I was saying is there is a whole forum that has a fair amount if members meaning there is a fairly large bleach fanbase
Dissidia
10-14-2007, 10:35 PM
They'll just do another "lol you've been trolled we so funny" response soon no doubt. They won't drop Bleach.
Watched the first episode of this new season but didn't think it had the charm of the original. Though it's probably because I started reading the manga after season 1 to find out what happens (not knowing this would be made :().
I'll still be following it though.
Wacer
10-15-2007, 12:52 AM
I loved FMA, I thought it was a really good anime XD. ya I think a lot people here like bleach but i dont think it is everyones favorite.
I think death note and FMA are both have very serious tones it is just in FMA it is more in undertones then how is is put out their with death note.
FMA also contains light and quirky humor that some people don't like, for SOME reason >__> An overly serious show needs some lightning up sometime.. though for DN it worked without it =P Misa isn't much comic relief since shes not really funny... And Matsuda.... XDDD
Setsuna Ai
10-15-2007, 03:43 AM
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u251/blackknight3000/family.jpg
The sketch above was drawn by someone else but let's get to the point. The image above is a collage of different anime characters. Try to list all the animes these characters are from :D
so far i found...
-DBZ
-NGE
-Astro Boy
-Pokemon
-Yu gi oh
-Rurouni Kenshin
-Daemon
-Inuyasha
-Detective Conan
-Sailor Moon
and uhh im still looking xD
Gray Fox
10-15-2007, 03:47 AM
HunterxHunter
Shaman King
Cyborg 009
Jigoku Sensei Nube
Akiha
10-15-2007, 03:48 AM
-Cyborg 009
-Rurouni Kenshin
-Doraemon
-Speed Racer
-Shaman King
Found:
Shaman King
Tenshi Muyo
Cleric
10-15-2007, 04:01 AM
- Hunter X Hunter
- Rirouni Kenshin
- InuYaha
- Tenshi Muyo
- Gundam Wing
- Speed Racer
- DBZ
- Yu-gi-oh
- Neon Genesis Evangelion
- Cyborg 009
- Sailor Moon
- Astro Boy
Drymon is there too but I don't know the name of the series he is in . . .
Talk about old school ^_^
Gettles
10-15-2007, 09:22 AM
Its a hard one to gauge weather someone will like it or not because most opinions are very extreme. But, either way, you might as well watch it and form your own opinion. Word case scenario, you don't like it.
Also, a word of warning. The show really doesn't pick up until the tenth episode.
Well... that sounds dumb, both are supernatural.
It is not at all Godlike for bleach, they can move in Shunpo, as with claymores, they can move that fast almost all the time, Miria can easily excel at speed.
Plus, claymores are adept at learning, as long as in the right environment, they practically can defeat any bleach character, perhaps not the espadas, but generally, they are damn powerful.
Plus, Teresa is a natural swordswoman as compared with Ichigo's skill-less blundering.
I think i did create a thread a while ago regarding Awakened being vs Arranca, and the feedback i got from most people is that Arranca will pwn awakened, regardless of situation. Most comment that Awakened being at most will only have the level equal to Menos in Bleach
From the feedback I got there, If Ichigo can stand up and even defeat Grimmjow, there is no way for Teresa even if awakened, to fight Ichigo
Between Guts and Claymores, I think I know which is mostly likely to be the victors, judging from the sheer difference in the power and limit that human can attain as compare to a half yoma, half human.
Yet i would like to raise a interesting question, will Guts in his current standard and normal form (in manga, wearing berserker armor but not unleashing the power) be able to handle the lowest rank claymore?
And if he did unleashes the power from berserker's armor and turn into the beast, will he be able to stand any chance at all against the top 5 elites of claymore?
Lastly, if Teresa (strongest claymore ever in the history) fight legendary being like Griffith (Who is the newest member of the godhand), who will win?
Kuroudo
10-15-2007, 08:19 PM
Ugh people plz. Let this thread Rest in peace.
Ichigo has won this one.
TargaryenX
10-15-2007, 09:25 PM
Guts would pulverize the lowest-rank claymore without even breaking a sweat. We saw nearly quicksword-speed slashes from him in the some of the first chapters (when he was fighting that ex-human thing in the basement with the old man). His sword is also a hell of a lot bigger and stronger than a claymore. I would say he would definitely be ranked in the top 20 even without the berserker armor. With the armor, he could probably beat any of them up to #1-2 in the current timeline.
We haven't really seen any of the godhand fight, they mostly just throw their power around and make guts' brand hurt or summon some really freaky stuff to attack their enemies.
TargaryenX
10-15-2007, 09:32 PM
Since this is the battle of the badasses, Auron wins, because he's by far the most badass. Ignoring Ichigo, he'd probably win in a fight too, since he's arguably the most powerful playable character in FFX story-wise and assuming that FFX and FFVII have similar power scales, that would place him at about the same level as cloud, except he's undead and has way more fighting experience.
Kuroudo
10-15-2007, 10:24 PM
Talking about a battle including bad asses. But yeah Aurons uber bad ass. Auron can die, by the way if he his beat so much that his pyreflies cannot hold them selves together. Auron is pretty strong but hes really slow, hell i bet naruto is faster than him.
http://www.demorgen.be/dm/nl/nieuws/belgie/603795?wt.bron=homeArt4
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2007-10-01/notes-left-near-bodies-in-belgium-linked-to-death-note
What... the....crap...
If that gets over to NA, were gonna have parent riots XP
Sick of stupid people emulating ficitional shows and games!
Joe Black
10-16-2007, 04:36 AM
that is fecking stupid. if you are going to kill someone, at least have the mind not to base it off a cartoon. at least then, you are taken srsly.
liek, murder isn't something you can just do because of a tv show. it is a serious act of taking a life of another human being. anyways, Death Note murder or not, i hope this killer goes behind bars like all the others should be.
Amen to that >_>
It isn't cool to mimic a work of fiction, thats just beyond dumb.
ninjabot
10-16-2007, 06:46 AM
Basch is using a Greatsword to make this a swordfight. Niether character gets magic or items, but Overdrives and Quickenings are fair game. Battlefield is just your average wide open field. Who takes the win?
FullMetal Rebel
10-16-2007, 09:21 AM
I would say Basch then, those quickenings make the FF12 characters overpowered quite honestly, the power of those moves are bound by gameplay. If Auron could manage to make it a sword fight, then Basch is a goner.
FullMetal Rebel
10-16-2007, 09:23 AM
Naruto is more badass than Ichigo IMO.
This resumes after the OVA no?
Dissidia
10-16-2007, 12:43 PM
This resumes after the OVA no?
Yeah it continues straight on from the 3rd OVA and will run for another twelve episodes:
1-12 (Genshiken)
13-15 (Genshiken OVAs)
16-27 (Genshiken 2)
Damascus
10-16-2007, 02:15 PM
that is fecking stupid. if you are going to kill someone, at least have the mind not to base it off a cartoon. at least then, you are taken srsly.
Seeing as how he left only body parts and no traces of identification he should be taken more seriously than ever. o.o;;
Guts would pulverize the lowest-rank claymore without even breaking a sweat. We saw nearly quicksword-speed slashes from him in the some of the first chapters (when he was fighting that ex-human thing in the basement with the old man). His sword is also a hell of a lot bigger and stronger than a claymore. I would say he would definitely be ranked in the top 20 even without the berserker armor. With the armor, he could probably beat any of them up to #1-2 in the current timeline.
We haven't really seen any of the godhand fight, they mostly just throw their power around and make guts' brand hurt or summon some really freaky stuff to attack their enemies.
Griffith, Aka the hawk of light is able to slash Zodd into 2 and break his horn permanently. From what most fans in other forum suspected, Griffith seem to also have the ability to manipulate and control outcome of a situation as well.
The reason I raised this topic because of the sheer resemblance when demons from both manga mention how weak human are as a species and how they are just nothing more than food for the yoma and apostles respectively in both stories. However in berserk, guts is able to prove them wrong while in claymore human warrior are infused with yoma flesh to provide supernatural power.
This rather give me an interesting combat clashes between both races especially in claymore we have seen battle between humans and claymores (and some of the human fighters seem to have nice skills as well). That really give me this idea should someone as strong as Guts step in and Claymores having their jaws dropped seeing how good a warrior human can be.
And yes! Raki got to be as strong as Guts to offer any real protection for Clare, can he achieve that in 7 years?
Anyway, feel free to post ur opinions as well, for I personally also feel that Guts is strong enough to prove a challenge to most Claymores.
James Cizuz
10-16-2007, 04:14 PM
Auron. Simply because my auron hits 99,999 every time caped(and is locked at 45k HP) maxed. While maxed Basch is 9,999 HP, and hits at 9,999(Is their a way without quickenings to do MORE then 9,999? FFS). Oh, and as for quicking, If you don't have another person to continue the chain all you can do is maybe 2, if your lucky. If you had 1 more person, you could go on forever, but it's only basch so meh. So yeah.
Miyagi Rikku
10-16-2007, 04:57 PM
rofl. Someone has been doing their murdering homework and death note as well. XD
SaberBlade
10-16-2007, 05:57 PM
Auron.
Firstly, he's already dead and in the FF12 world they can't do that, so when Basch dies at Auron's hand, he's dead.
Also, My Auron has max stats so Basch would be lucky to touch him especially if Auron did his overdrives. Even at my highest Quickening count (over 20) it's still not enough to kill Auron.
RandomVaizard
10-16-2007, 07:01 PM
Well,Auron is already dead,so...
I seriously doubt Basch could kill him a second time.
In gameplay terms,my Auron would kill Basch with just a glare. (99.999 damage ftw.)
Silhouette
10-16-2007, 07:50 PM
Meh. This isn't about game mechanics. If it were, then FFX has the most powerful FF characters in history, and all those Seph/Cloud fans can EAT THAT!
But its not like that, its as if they're just fighting, like in an anime or something.
With that out there, Auron wins, but not for the stated reasons. Unsent can be rekilled, as proven by Seymour and Evrae Atlanta. So that's out of there also.
It comes down to experience, endurance/stamina, and power. Auron has far more experience, and is definately stronger. And endurance? Psh. Since Basch is fighting with a greatsword, his only advantage - his speed - is out.
So its Overdrive vs Quickenings? You're all looking at this the wrong way. No one's going to stand still for Quickenings like they do in FFXII, and the same goes for Overdrive moves. In real fights, people move.. >.>
If Basch were to stand still for Auron's Shooting Star, then that's pretty much instant kill. He'd be sliced in half..
Basch's Quickenings are hard to make.. realistic. His first seems rather weak, and could be easily blocked by Auron, but the latter two. In the second, it seems he shatters space and time, or a dimension or something.. Yeah, that's just out there.
Flame Purge would be devistating if landed, and could win him the match, if he gets the time to use it. This move is the only way I can see Basch winning this match.
Kuroudo
10-16-2007, 07:54 PM
Naruto is more badass than Ichigo IMO.
idk if naruto had a bad-ass moment hes annoying. maybe he would be cool if he would stop saying dattebayo and believe it.
watch the video i posted above.
SaberBlade
10-16-2007, 07:58 PM
With that out there, Auron wins, but not for the stated reasons. Unsent can be rekilled, as proven by Seymour and Evrae Atlanta. So that's out of there also.
That's not exactly true, as Seymour was sent thus ending his existance on Spira while Evrae Altana was a Zombie, and not proven to be the same Evrae as the one fought near Bevelle. If even it was the same Evrae, the second fight was't unsent but as I said a Zombie which can be killed.
Kuroudo
10-16-2007, 07:59 PM
Meh. This isn't about game mechanics. If it were, then FFX has the most powerful FF characters in history, and all those Seph/Cloud fans can EAT THAT!
But its not like that, its as if they're just fighting, like in an anime or something.
With that out there, Auron wins, but not for the stated reasons. Unsent can be rekilled, as proven by Seymour and Evrae Atlanta. So that's out of there also.
It comes down to experience, endurance/stamina, and power. Auron has far more experience, and is definately stronger. And endurance? Psh. Since Basch is fighting with a greatsword, his only advantage - his speed - is out.
So its Overdrive vs Quickenings? You're all looking at this the wrong way. No one's going to stand still for Quickenings like they do in FFXII, and the same goes for Overdrive moves. In real fights, people move.. >.>
If Basch were to stand still for Auron's Shooting Star, then that's pretty much instant kill. He'd be sliced in half..
Basch's Quickenings are hard to make.. realistic. His first seems rather weak, and could be easily blocked by Auron, but the latter two. In the second, it seems he shatters space and time, or a dimension or something.. Yeah, that's just out there.
Flame Purge would be devistating if landed, and could win him the match, if he gets the time to use it. This move is the only way I can see Basch winning this match.
I agree with you,
Anime-style FFX: is not strong but Auron can do all those uber overdrives (the dragon twister one was my personal favorite)
Game-style FFX: Cheap, that Damage break (going over 9999) is breaking Final Fantasy Tradition. the limit 9999 is used today as in
Bob: "Ho ho! if Ichigo fought Kon he would do like 9999 damage!!"
I really think shooting star would take out bastch his quicknings are no match for aurons mega strong attacks.
Edgey
10-16-2007, 08:12 PM
FFs it's stuff like this that is going to get manga banned in some countries, BAKA!!!
Then again this could all be coincidence, who knows???
I knew someone would do this eventually.
Donut
10-16-2007, 08:18 PM
He could've at least spelled "DESU" right...
Silhouette
10-16-2007, 08:20 PM
That's not exactly true, as Seymour was sent thus ending his existance on Spira while Evrae Altana was a Zombie, and not proven to be the same Evrae as the one fought near Bevelle. If even it was the same Evrae, the second fight was't unsent but as I said a Zombie which can be killed.
Its the same Evrae, there's only one. Evrae's pyreflies fell down onto Bevelle after it was killed. It only makes sense for them to regather and attack Tidus & co.
Seymour was defeated several times after becoming an Unsent. Each time, his pyreflies scattered. So, in a sense, he was "killed". The same can happen to Auron, hence the game over thing.
Auron can be defeated. Let's not use the "ZOMG! HE'S ALREADY DEAD!" thing, thanks.
Anyway, unless Basch uses and connects Flame Purge, he can't win. My votes for Auron, I'm not going to debate about if he can die again or not, since its already been shown, and it would just be a waste of my time. This has happened with Ichigo vs Teresa, and Luffy vs Ichigo. I'm not doing it here...
{edit} Just think of it as this: If Auron's pyreflies scatter, he's "dead" until they regather. Them scattering would mean that he "loses". It doesn't matter if he comes back, because it isn't instant. Which is why there's gaps between the Seymour fights, he needs to regather them, or even absorb new ones (guards, Kinoc, etc).
ninjabot
10-17-2007, 12:02 AM
Right. I pretty much agree with some things except the fighting skill and experience. See, Basch isn't just some guy with a sword. He was "The great hero of Dalmasca, captain of the Order of Knights". Sounds a bit more significant than "Summoner's Guardian". Basch is a war vet (a war he lost, but a vet nonetheless). Not fighting beasts alone, but other knights. Constantly fighting men with the same skill as yourself is sure to sharpen one's wits, reflexes, and fighting prowess way better than cutting up fiends.
The quickenings aren't too unrealistic in my opinion. 1st one is a simple energy blast ala Kamehameha. Seems entirely viable to me. Then there's Senbonzakura Kageyoshi. Err...Flame Purge. I wanna assume that those swords are either heat seaking, or aimed. Either way Auron isn't fast enough to dodge a whole mess of flying flaming swords, or run from a black whole for that matter.
Stronger than Basch? I GUESS that could be said...if unsent are stronger than normal people, cause other than that I don't remember any feats by Auron that equal super strength. Endurance, from crawling around Mt. Gagazet. More strength? I guess the "sliding on wires" scene counts for enduring high velocities at great altitudes or...nah. I call shenanigans on that one.
Kuroudo
10-17-2007, 12:14 AM
Its the same Evrae, there's only one. Evrae's pyreflies fell down onto Bevelle after it was killed. It only makes sense for them to regather and attack Tidus & co.
Seymour was defeated several times after becoming an Unsent. Each time, his pyreflies scattered. So, in a sense, he was "killed". The same can happen to Auron, hence the game over thing.
Auron can be defeated. Let's not use the "ZOMG! HE'S ALREADY DEAD!" thing, thanks.
Anyway, unless Basch uses and connects Flame Purge, he can't win. My votes for Auron, I'm not going to debate about if he can die again or not, since its already been shown, and it would just be a waste of my time. This has happened with Ichigo vs Teresa, and Luffy vs Ichigo. I'm not doing it here...
{edit} Just think of it as this: If Auron's pyreflies scatter, he's "dead" until they regather. Them scattering would mean that he "loses". It doesn't matter if he comes back, because it isn't instant. Which is why there's gaps between the Seymour fights, he needs to regather them, or even absorb new ones (guards, Kinoc, etc).
Does that relate for sephiroth? He died yet he transformed into Jenova cells, the 3 largest groups of his cells regrouped into Kadaj, Loz and Yazoo then he went back to sephiroth.
i hated evrae, but he was easy in zombie form.
Silhouette
10-17-2007, 01:12 AM
Right. I pretty much agree with some things except the fighting skill and experience. See, Basch isn't just some guy with a sword. He was "The great hero of Dalmasca, captain of the Order of Knights". Sounds a bit more significant than "Summoner's Guardian". Basch is a war vet (a war he lost, but a vet nonetheless). Not fighting beasts alone, but other knights. Constantly fighting men with the same skill as yourself is sure to sharpen one's wits, reflexes, and fighting prowess way better than cutting up fiends.
Wrong, as you could see in the beginning, knights are nothing to Basch, so he isn't really fighting people of his calibur.
Fiends > knights. This shows on several occasions in FFX. I think fighting dragons and other creatures sharpens your skill more than fighting guys in armor. :whatevah:
The quickenings aren't too unrealistic in my opinion. 1st one is a simple energy blast ala Kamehameha. Seems entirely viable to me. Then there's Senbonzakura Kageyoshi. Err...Flame Purge. I wanna assume that those swords are either heat seaking, or aimed. Either way Auron isn't fast enough to dodge a whole mess of flying flaming swords, or run from a black whole for that matter.
Yeah, some of them are pretty out there. I never said the first and last were, just that black hole thing. Basch isn't fast enough to dodge a flaming tornado either. Or Auron's first Overdrive, Dragon Fang, which pretty much hits all targets within range with a blast of fire or something...
Stronger than Basch? I GUESS that could be said...if unsent are stronger than normal people, cause other than that I don't remember any feats by Auron that equal super strength. Endurance, from crawling around Mt. Gagazet. More strength? I guess the "sliding on wires" scene counts for enduring high velocities at great altitudes or...nah. I call shenanigans on that one.
Auron is the "slicing through armored-fiends" guy. He also swings his sword around with one arm usually; Basch uses both. Though, this can just be chalked up as style and preference, but I'm pretty sure Auron's stronger. Just look at them..
Endurance. You can't possibly say that he doesn't have that. I've explained why I think he does in one of my previous posts.. I'd like to see Basch take a hit from the Grand Summoner, and crawl across the distance Auron did BEFORE dying.
{edit}Experience; Auron's got at least 10 years on Basch as far as fighting goes. Basch is in his late 20s, I believe. I'd say he's been fighting since his early teens at the most. Auron's been fighting for at least 20+ years, since he's in his 30s.
{2nd edit} And also, most of his feats are from when he was younger and weaker. The guy's stronger now.. It pretty much comes down to who can land a special move first. Quickenings vs Overdrives. With those out, Auron definately wins.
Silhouette
10-17-2007, 01:48 AM
Naruto fails. He's obnoxious, loud-mouthed, dull-witted, and just straight up annoying. I don't know how anyone can stand him.. I get angry just thinking about 'em.
Sasuke was right to leave. Sakura should punch Naruto more often. And if he think's he's ever going to become Hokage. . . I laugh at him. Not even if everyone died, would he become Hokage.
[/angry anti-Naruto rant]
Ichigo's definately more badass than Naruto. His most badass moment, imo, was saving Rukia up on that cliff.. Forgot the name of that thing, or w/e was going on, but it was badass. >.>
FullMetal Rebel
10-17-2007, 01:49 AM
idk if naruto had a bad-ass moment hes annoying. maybe he would be cool if he would stop saying dattebayo and believe it.
watch the video i posted above.
Somebody doesn't read the manga I see..................................
Either way Ichigo or Naruto aren't near badass. Naruto comes closer to it than Ichigo IMO though.
chappirukia
10-17-2007, 03:23 AM
god, as if anime and manga didnt already have parent groups pissed off
I saw an article on the front page of yahoo once called "'too' graphic novels"
when my mom learns about this death not is out of my house for good
damn :sad
Kuroudo
10-17-2007, 04:11 AM
Somebody doesn't read the manga I see..................................
Either way Ichigo or Naruto aren't near badass. Naruto comes closer to it than Ichigo IMO though.
rofl, you posted exatcly one minute after Vlaew. but Vlaew is right, Naruto even though he has some bad-ass moments hes not badassed in general. one needs to act bad-ass reguarly or on a period of time.
Cloud's Bad ass moment: Doing ominslash V5 on sephiroth.
Vince's Bad ass moment: transforming into chaos and fighting omega and bahamut SIN
Itachi's Bad ass moment: Beat the hell out of kakashi (he just acts and looks bad ass too)
Aurons Bad ass moment: Hes cold, cool, calm and laid-back. and he has some pretty bad-ass moves and entrances, hes not a bad ass HE IS THE BADASS
Riku bad ass moment: He just acts cool.
Ichigo Bad ass moment: Saving rukia and beating up 3 lieutenants without using his zanpaktou
Naruto Bad ass moment: i dont remember much, but his first was when he punched haku really really hard.
If naruto was bad ass he would be #1 favorite character in naruto, But recently it was around gaara and sasuke.
Cmon, 95% of anime chars with big swords are badass, the other 5% are retard berzerkers.
Kuroudo
10-17-2007, 04:19 AM
Wrong, as you could see in the beginning, knights are nothing to Basch, so he isn't really fighting people of his calibur.
Fiends > knights. This shows on several occasions in FFX. I think fighting dragons and other creatures sharpens your skill more than fighting guys in armor. :whatevah:
Yeah, some of them are pretty out there. I never said the first and last were, just that black hole thing. Basch isn't fast enough to dodge a flaming tornado either. Or Auron's first Overdrive, Dragon Fang, which pretty much hits all targets within range with a blast of fire or something...
Auron is the "slicing through armored-fiends" guy. He also swings his sword around with one arm usually; Basch uses both. Though, this can just be chalked up as style and preference, but I'm pretty sure Auron's stronger. Just look at them..
Endurance. You can't possibly say that he doesn't have that. I've explained why I think he does in one of my previous posts.. I'd like to see Basch take a hit from the Grand Summoner, and crawl across the distance Auron did BEFORE dying.
{edit}Experience; Auron's got at least 10 years on Basch as far as fighting goes. Basch is in his late 20s, I believe. I'd say he's been fighting since his early teens at the most. Auron's been fighting for at least 20+ years, since he's in his 30s.
{2nd edit} And also, most of his feats are from when he was younger and weaker. The guy's stronger now.. It pretty much comes down to who can land a special move first. Quickenings vs Overdrives. With those out, Auron definately wins.
Auron = Slow
Auron + Warrior Overdrive (the one that makes you get more drive if you get hit)
Basch goes first
Attack= 4539 norm dmg
Auron + 4539= Full overdrive bar
Shooting star
Basch= Ejected
Buna ba-ba bum bum buna!!!
in a game it would go down like dat
btw: i think Auron is 35
that brings me to another question
Limit Break vs Overdrive?
ninjabot
10-17-2007, 04:47 AM
Well, that makes a bit of sense with the fiends, but usually it's knights who slay dragons. Basche slays knights, therefore Basche>Knights>Fiends/Dragons. Nah, that's kinda silly. This is one of the better fights in the FF character threads though, if I do say so myself...
As for Auron's super strength, it's more like he holds his sword one handed, but it's resting on his shoulder. Thus, when he swings downward, it's simply letting gravity do it's work. Notice he swings it like it's a huge sword, unlike Cloud who swings Buster Sword like it's a dagger. Strength, sure. But super strength? I dunno. The "cutting through armored fiends" thing is true, but are we sure it's not just because he has a big-honkin' sword?
Hmm...I shoulda limited them both to one specific special move. Okay, forget that Flame Purge is Basch's strongest quickening. He has that one, and Auron has the one where he throws out multiple energy orbs. Now what happens?
I knew someone would do this eventually.
We all saw it coming .__. After the crap kids did after playing GTA
Gotta ruin it for everyone...
Seff vi Britannia
10-17-2007, 08:26 AM
Naruto's first, only, but undeniabley awesome bad-ass moment;
Four tails versus Orochimaru.
Seff vi Britannia
10-17-2007, 08:31 AM
If we're talking the Ichigo as he was against Ulquiorra then even an awakened Teresa would die quickly...
Ichigo at beggining of HM Arc?
Closer, but Ichigo still wins.
Dr. Walker
10-17-2007, 09:04 AM
Death Note or not, dess or desu, what I can surmise is that this is pretty fucking creepy. o.o;;
Silhouette
10-17-2007, 12:35 PM
Well, that makes a bit of sense with the fiends, but usually it's knights who slay dragons. Basche slays knights, therefore Basche>Knights>Fiends/Dragons. Nah, that's kinda silly. This is one of the better fights in the FF character threads though, if I do say so myself...
*cough* Tell that to those Crusaders. Sure, regular dingos and bird fiends are cake, but larger ones like the Sanctuary Keeper or even Sin would slaughter any knight.
Or, in the FFXII universe, Hell Wyrm, Yiazmat, or any of the lesser dragons really. Yeah, can't see knights defeating those. The main characters can, but they're different. >.>
As for Auron's super strength, it's more like he holds his sword one handed, but it's resting on his shoulder. Thus, when he swings downward, it's simply letting gravity do it's work. Notice he swings it like it's a huge sword, unlike Cloud who swings Buster Sword like it's a dagger. Strength, sure. But super strength? I dunno. The "cutting through armored fiends" thing is true, but are we sure it's not just because he has a big-honkin' sword?
Its not just gravity. In one scene, he hacks an ice.. tree.. thing to pieces with three slashes or something. He was using both hands then.
I never said he had "super strength", I just said he's stronger than Basch. And bringing god-mod Cloud into this... that's low. >: /
And no, its not just the sword. If Tidus used Auron's sword, he wouldn't be able to cut anything. He'd fall over with laughable results. Auron's strong enough to wield his weapon, Basch is used to wielding a smaller sword (that's what he starts off with, and its safe to assume that's what he grew up with).
Which once again brings in the speed and experience. Basch will be slowed down greatly by using a greatsword, whereas Auron has been using one longer, and knows how to use it effectively (ie, resting it on his shoulder, and using gravity + his own strength for better slashes).
Hmm...I shoulda limited them both to one specific special move. Okay, forget that Flame Purge is Basch's strongest quickening. He has that one, and Auron has the one where he throws out multiple energy orbs. Now what happens?
Which Overdrive is that? Banishing Blade? Bleh, the one OD of Auron's that I can't remember.. And I'm on dialup, so no Youtube for me. >: /
@War: >.>
Lelouch
10-17-2007, 01:03 PM
Bleach's power lvls are more exaggerated. Ichigo was fast enough to block THOUSANDS , if not MILIONS of petals(byakuyas bankai ). Teresa might be fast and stuff but he is WAY faster. besides she cant hurt him 'cause he is a shinigami. Even is she could he was the reiatsu-defence that every bleach char has. Even is she could wound him and was faster , there's just no way to beat ogichi..... lols...
Kodoku
10-17-2007, 03:52 PM
I would use the death note in the same way Raito does. I don't doubt I'd become like him, but it would be for the good of many, even if a few innocents die along the way. Even if I go mad. Who gives a damn? It's the greater good.
Kuroudo
10-17-2007, 04:44 PM
Naruto's first, only, but undeniabley awesome bad-ass moment;
Four tails versus Orochimaru.
i still auron was allot more bad ass than he was,
he was barley naruto at the time, 9-tails nearly took control of his body
Kuroudo
10-17-2007, 04:47 PM
Its the one where he does a massive horizontal slash on the enemy at point-black range it ejects the enemy
eject= Blast the enemy so far away that it exits battle.
do you have google video? how bout daily motion?
Seff vi Britannia
10-17-2007, 04:56 PM
Er, he was still Naruto. He's Naruto up until 9 tails, when Kyuubi kills him and breaks free.
datruth
10-17-2007, 05:56 PM
lol you guys are aware naruto is incapable of acessing all 9of the demons tails arent you?
datruth
10-17-2007, 05:57 PM
and im pretty sure that if naruto had all of the demons chakra and abilities that he would be about 5x stronger than sin
Silhouette
10-17-2007, 06:08 PM
That's Shooting Star, I believe. Banishing Blade is different.
And I can't load any vids on dialup.. -_-
Habanero
10-17-2007, 08:06 PM
Oh man... I can't believe this thread didn't get any replies untill now! :sad <