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mthegreatone
10-21-2007, 01:00 AM
^ I feel the same way. I always love dragons.

Trogdor the Burninator is more powerful than Kagutsuchi.

Silhouette
10-21-2007, 01:37 AM
Wow. War summed it up pretty much: Kenshin not only moves at "god-like speeds", but he has a lot of special techniques that Mugen doesn't stand a chance against.

Here's a comparrison though. Take Kariya (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Samurai_Champloo_characters#Kariya_Kagetoki_.28a.k.a._.22The_Divine_Hand.22.29), the "God Hand". Kariya was fast, very fast. So fast in fact, that when he first fought Mugen, he seemingly vanished - turning into a ghost-like figure, and 'flew through him'.

Kariya was able to fight off both Mugen AND Jin at the same time, defeating Jin in a stand-off later on in the episode. He was only defeated by Jin in the last episode because of Jin's "suicidal" tactic.

A better fight would've been Kariya vs Kenshin. Though the fight would still end in Kenshin's favor..

Anyway, if Kenshin weren't using his special techniques, then it'd be a good fight to see. Mugen's unorthodox fighting style would definately keep Kenshin on his feet. Mugen's only salvation is the fact that Kenshin won't kill him, and his moves would only be enough to bruise him at best.

Mugen can take a hit though, being sliced up, shot, and caught in several explosions (all in the same ep), and living through it..

FullMetal Rebel
10-21-2007, 03:26 AM
I'll have to give it Kenshin. Mugen is more real life based, Kenshin has all that anime junk like special attacks and speed. Which gives Kenshin the easy victory.

Midare
10-21-2007, 04:52 AM
Kenshin all the way.

Even when I think he would have a hard time fighting Mugen.

The thing is, that even when Kenshin pwns, Mugen is too unpredictable with his movements, but I think that those "break-dancer" style movements leaves him open to too many of Kenshin attacks but, seeing that Kenshin depends a lot on reading his opponent (as his Master said once), that's why I think he would have a hard time against him
As War said, a single kuzu-ryu sen and then Mugen is over.

Maybe, it would be different if Kenshin's opponent happens to be Jin.

Jedi Taicho
10-21-2007, 08:49 AM
I would really use the Death Note. Killing those who bother you, but i wouldn't abuse my power. I would like to play the role of god for a while and kill of those that are evil!

silverwolf801
10-21-2007, 03:30 PM
wow it was really hot. I liked it. so now I see why people have watched this show

silverwolf801
10-21-2007, 03:36 PM
Naw i wouldn't because look what happened to L in the 1st episode he is trying to become god with a notebook

Kuroudo
10-21-2007, 05:44 PM
Kenshin has won this battle. NEXT

Aizen_sama
10-21-2007, 10:15 PM
Light: The teacher is a ***** he's going to die.

Typical Teen lol

~Wonderwice~
10-22-2007, 03:09 AM
L:
I Love All Those Beautiful Shinigami!!! I Want To Give Them Mega Hugz!
kira:
Not before I do. I'll hug them first! *gets in a fight with L*

Edgey
10-22-2007, 11:39 PM
L: Light didn't really kill me, it was....NEAR!!! :o

Aina1
10-23-2007, 03:00 AM
Kakashi :Domo

ninjabot
10-23-2007, 07:02 AM
Ok. Welcome to the Final Fantasy character tournament, Final Fantasy Fights (F3). Similar to the Bleach Battles section's Bleach Tournament, 20 characters will fight in elimination rounds (though these will be 1-on-1 fights). The fights will continue until I or Vlaew decide the winner, then the next 2 opponents will fight. This will continue until all contestants have fought, leaving the undisputed Final Fantasy Champion. I came up with the idea of this match after checking through the Anime Arena threads and finding that the Final Fantasy threads get the most traffic, despite not being anime. Maybe at the end of this tournament, it'll be out of our systems and we can get on to some more interesting non-final fantasy fights.

Rules
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1:Characters can't use items. They are also limited to only their base weaponry. Characters that can wield multiple weapon types will use a weapon similar to their opponent's.
2:Canon storyline elements can be used to argue in one characters favor, however, no immortality.
3:Game mechanics will not be taken into consideration in these matches. At all.
4:No summons or magic (except for summoners or spellcasters).
5:Characters are allowed only one offensive limit break to be determined before each fight.
6:These are the versions of each character from their original series, not sidestory games or movies.
7:When choosing a character to win, you MUST ATLEAST post a paragraph (5 or more sentences is all I ask) as to why that person should win. Simple one word posts will be ignored.
8:The same rules meant for any other thread apply here aswell. Let's try to be mature.
9:Cloud wins.
10:Cloud doesn't lose.

And now, without further ado...your first match is...


Zell vs. Tifa! Both get their final limit breaks. Start debating now.

~Wonderwice~
10-23-2007, 08:33 AM
Ah, GNG.
One of my most favorite anime's. It was SO much better than GDW.
Although, when Gin first saw Riki again, his face looked a little odd. Gah, lazy animators and their...lazyness.

I've made a few GNG AMV's...Although, not so great.
But besides that, I saw GNG series last year, so yessss I was 12 last year...But GNG was REALLY great, I certainly hope they don't re-make the anime 'restored'

ramen9
10-23-2007, 10:02 AM
Of course he will reappear! Though probrably not in front of the Strawhats. He will probrably be seen meeting some other characters and some conflict between them. He already got his mushroom moon men for a army.

ramen9
10-23-2007, 10:04 AM
KAKU!!! *sigh* he just leaks of smexiness

ramen9
10-23-2007, 10:06 AM
I've heard their new voices, and I think they're really good!! At least better than the stupid 4kids dubs,anyway.

galactic_ronin
10-23-2007, 06:37 PM
Looking back now Id say I would definitely use it. Even to the extent that Light does. Right now theres a huge lack of direction and talent in my life and I would mistake having the note as destiny or something and would try to change or take the world.

Kuroudo
10-23-2007, 08:25 PM
Wow this is a tough one

9:Cloud wins.
10:Cloud doesn't lose.

Cloud FTW

anyways.

This is a tough one, They both have nearly the same moves, (damn zell you took tifa's moves!) and nearly the same skill. but i think Zell is more with fists Tifa is all-around punching and kicking. but Zells Final Heaven, is weaker than than Tifas, Zell does more dmg on a area, while Tifas is a concetrated Blow on one person. idk how Zell fits into having one limit break, he does multiple "mini-breaks" before doing the real one. does he skip the combos and use his finisher?

whoever wins i still prefer tifa.

Delaguardia
10-24-2007, 03:52 AM
I'm sorry to say this but the voices sound even worse if thats possible. T_T Oh ya and your links don't work anymore so I had to look it up. I hate sanji's new voice.

ninjabot
10-24-2007, 05:31 AM
Yes, he skips the combos and only does the finisher, same with Tifa. Final Heaven is the same for the both of them, except that Zell's has him run around the entire planet before punching...speed of light FTW?

Anyway, let's look at it from this perspective. Tifa was trained by some guy, and is a member of AVALANCHE, a group of freedom fighters. Zell is a member of SEED, a mercenary group specially designed to fight a sorceress. Something tells me Zell's a bit better of a fighter in that regard. If this were AC Tifa she'd be alot stronger than Zell, but this is FF7 Tifa...

I think Zell's got my vote. No one else has an opinion?

Joe Black
10-24-2007, 06:37 PM
L [to Near and Mello]: Let's have an alphabet threesome! <3

Kuroudo
10-24-2007, 08:49 PM
lol i thought this would get more people but its not, wtf? lol.

Silhouette
10-24-2007, 10:19 PM
There's not much to add really.. And Zell isn't just fists, he's also well-rounded, as shown in his Limit Break.

"Rules" 9 and 10 fail by the way..

Kuroudo
10-25-2007, 12:00 AM
we are using the Final heaven as his limit break in this. he does a giant super punch.

5:Characters are allowed only one offensive limit break to be determined before each fight - ninjabot

Rhea
10-25-2007, 12:44 AM
Ah it's so hard to choose. I'm gonna go with Tifa though.

1. She's my favourite character

2. Although Zell is a well rounded fighter I think Tifa has more arsenal on offer.

3. Tifa is a much more rational person, I find Zell tend to get quite hot headed and over zealous, losing control and rationality in certain situations...

They are so evenly matched as their limits and styles are so similar. However, I think that Tifa's rationality would be her aid

Kuroudo
10-25-2007, 01:52 AM
Rule:

----General---
No items
No enchanted weapons
No diffrent versions
Two limit break use only
No Party member help
No Magic
No Auto-life.
No Summons
Cloud goes first (aurons slow remember?)
No Status effects.
----Auron-----
No Auron immortalty because hes made out of pyreflies
Aurons Limit break, Tornado, Shooting star
Auron goes second.
Sword- Katana

----Cloud----
Sword- First Tsurgi
Limit Breaks: Blade Beam, Omnislash V5 (idk why they called it V5)
No Materia Usage.
Cloud Goes first
Yes cloud has limit breaks in AC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0-QzYLrc28

James Cizuz
10-25-2007, 03:12 AM
Uhm auron goes first. His final weapon, or his real weapon has a always go first ability. Thus hes first. He also has a always counter ability on it :O.

ninjabot
10-25-2007, 06:52 AM
Rules 9 and 10 fail? Well, don't view them as rules, view them as COMMANDMENTS. Yeah. You wouldn't disobey God's divine law would you? Lol, just kidding. And I'm sure others at the KH rpg would have an opinion about this too, you should ask around, try to get this thing moving...

So far it's Tifa 1, Zell 3. I'm thinking I'll give it another day, and if nothing changes then onward to our next match.

Silhouette
10-25-2007, 12:20 PM
@Allcreation: Zell may be hot-headed, but he has some control. He's also the "know-it-all". This isn't just about history and mechanics mind you, its also about martial arts.

Zell may only use his fists in in-game combat, but we've seen that he has much more to offer. In his intro scene, he doesn't just punch the air; he punches, kicks, flips, etc.

Also, we've seen that he can kick and use knee thrusts in his Limit Break, so he isn't just about the fists. So I'd say they're around even.. maybe, when it comes to fighting-range/technique.

Also, I haven't played FF7 (but I've seen enough hype and "ZOMG! BEST GAME EVER" 'shows' to know everything about it..), but Tifa didn't seem that rational in KH2.

Yes, I know its a seperate series, but the KH games stay true to their FF characters, in turns of personality.. She didn't hesitate to smash everything in Ansem's research room to find 'clues'.

@ninjabot: Speaking of the KHRP. *cough* I've added the Reaction Command system. Used your idea, but modified it. You know, Orren can jump in at any time..

<.<

Something's going on at the Olympus Coliseum.

[/advertisement]

I'll ask the others about these threads though.

ninjabot
10-25-2007, 06:28 PM
Yeah, I gotcha. I plan to post something tonight after work...anyway, I think now is as good a time as any to switch this to the next match. Zell's fighting skill edges out Tifa's. Winner of the first match is Zell.

Vlaew, would you like the honor of picking the next bout?

Silhouette
10-25-2007, 06:52 PM
Hm. *shrug*

Battle of the mages. Lulu vs Vivi..? lmao..

Kuroudo
10-25-2007, 07:44 PM
Sword- Katana
that means first weapon or defualt weapon. no masamune or ultima sword.

Kuroudo
10-25-2007, 07:59 PM
Lulu deffintely,
that werid short vivi dude dosent stand a chance aganst every single magic that lulu has btw: she starts out with the 4 basic element attacks? what else she got? besides firaga,thundaga,waterga and blizzaga? can she use ultima?

Silhouette
10-25-2007, 08:07 PM
Lulu's Magic, in no particular order: Firaga, Blizzaga, Waterga, Thundaga, Demi, Bio, Flare, Ultima, Death (invalid here).

I'm not too sure about Vivi, as I haven't played the FF he's from. O_o

Kuroudo
10-25-2007, 08:46 PM
yeah i havent played the one with vivi either.

Death and Ultima is her most powerful magic here.

Samanosuke
10-25-2007, 09:22 PM
I'll have to give it Kenshin. Mugen is more real life based, Kenshin has all that anime junk like special attacks and speed. Which gives Kenshin the easy victory.

Quoted for Truth

reaverofsouls05
10-25-2007, 09:25 PM
Kenshin would win but he would have a hard time at first because of the way Mugen fights how he throws in kicks and stuff it would throw him off for a bit but not enough for Kenshin to lose

Silhouette
10-25-2007, 09:56 PM
No, Death is invalid here.. and it sucks anyway.. Flare and Ultima are the powerful ones. If you remember any of the Seymour battles, you'd remember how annoying Flare was. -_-"

Delaguardia
10-26-2007, 01:33 AM
Hey guys Death Note is on YTV tomorrow night at 10:00. I'm so happy because I don't get Adult Swim. Now I can see it without using youtube.com and the same for who ever doesn't get that chanel either unless you don't have ytv either then never mind.

Kuroudo
10-26-2007, 02:32 AM
It was annoying during the second battle with Seymour (something) it was crazy but i beat him, then he switched to using zombie and holy magic, then finnaly two double casts of an element and ultima

Flare element = Ultima element
Flare Element = no element
Ultima << Flare

lulu wins

Princess Gheyfu
10-26-2007, 03:07 AM
It may be a bit odd, but I want to know, what anime have J-Metal opening/ending themes? I know that the second Death Note op/ed are J-Metal, aswell as one of the Baki the Grappler openings (and the X/1999 opening if you count it), but I want to know what other anime have J-metal themes. =) Anyone know of any?

nx6
10-26-2007, 03:09 AM
Hey guys Death Note is on YTV tomorrow night at 10:00. I'm so happy because I don't get Adult Swim. Now I can see it without using youtube.com and the same for who ever doesn't get that chanel either unless you don't have ytv either then never mind.

The episodes are available streamed on adultswim.com as well (broken into 4 parts). I watched the first episode the other night since I missed the premiere (I already have the series subbed, but I wanted to hear Light's dub VA).

Silhouette
10-26-2007, 03:19 AM
No.. That didn't make any sense at all. I agree that Lulu would win, but not because of what you've posted..

Ultima > Flare. Ultima is the most powerful spell in the FF-verse, at least for playable characters anyway (could Apocalypse be drawn from Ultimecia in ff8?). Flare might be in the top 5, but its not the most powerful.

-Off Topic-

Its Seymour, Seymour Natus (w/ Flare and Break), Seymour Flux (Flare, Zombie, Full-Life), and Seymour Omnis.. who uses standard magic, Flare, and Ultima.

ninjabot
10-26-2007, 05:01 AM
Actually...Vivi takes this one. In FF9 instead of Limit Breaks there's Trance. Trance = Super Saiyajin. This is the reason Kuja is the most powerful badguy in FF history, because he destroyed a whole world in minutes with his Trance (no, this wasn't an attack like Sephiroth's. This was an actual cutscene). Well...he WAS a Genome. Vivi isn't. He's a Black Mage. Black Mages in FF9 are an entire race, not just a job. They are created as magical footsoldiers for Queen Brahn, and are designed to die after a year of "use".

Vivi is assumed to be the prototype Black Mage, due to the fact that he's lived to age 9. Anyway, I'm assuming the fight would come down to them both pelting eachother with spells until Vivi get's pissed...then it's BOOM! Vivi goes Trance and Lulu get's nuked.

Sure, the fact that he's a 9 year old boy makes him less skilled, but he already is "programmed" for battle. Yeah, I go with Vivi.

Silhouette
10-26-2007, 12:04 PM
Hm. And if Lulu goes Ultima Fury on Vivi? That's around 5-7 (the highest I could ever get) straight Ultima blasts. I doubt anyone could live through several blasts of the 'most powerful PC spell' in rapid succession.


And about my last post, and Flare being in the top 5.. I just remembered that FF12 rose the bar with spells such as Scathe, Scourage, and Darkga.. Not sure about Shock or Ardor, as far as power goes..

Kuroudo
10-26-2007, 09:04 PM
Does FF9 have break damage limit?

cus FFX and X-2

Break Damage Limit = Ultima going over 9999

Alerane
10-27-2007, 05:06 AM
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vXNvX8yjaEE

I. Loved. This!

Its a flash video of Death Note with a lion king song, total win.

Just found it today while surfing Youtube, what do you guys think?

ninjabot
10-27-2007, 08:55 AM
No there isn't, but we're actually not taking hit points or damage into account for these matches, because in real fights you don't have hitpoints. Anyway, I change my vote to Lulu, for the reason that:

1: I forgot spells in FF aren't projectiles, they're AOE-like explosions that auto-hit. If they were projectiles, then Trance Vivi could use the same spell Lulu casts and it will plow through hers because of it being boosted to super-powered levels. This isn't the case so it's basically first spell wins, and Lulu has rapid-fire so...yeah.

2: You still can be hurt/killed during Trance. Yeah you're faster and more powerful, but it ain't like mages are all that fast to begin with...

3: Skill. I just realized that it's only the mass-produced Black Mages that are killing machines. Vivi grew up as a normal boy, so he doesn't have the battle experience.

Yeah, Lulu does take the win.

Kuroudo
10-27-2007, 04:22 PM
Can i call next fight? i vote for

Tidus vs Vaan.

Silhouette
10-27-2007, 07:45 PM
Already done, Tidus won...

Yeah, new fight?

{edit} Let's not hold that against Vaan btw. No redoing old threads that have already been decided..

So, no:

Tidus vs Vaan
Auron vs Basch
Squall vs Cloud

*thinks* I know there's been others.. *shrug*

Anyway, winners thus far:

Zell vs Tifa: Winner, Zell
Lulu vs Vivi: Winner, Lulu

- - -

So, how about.. we start mixing things up a bit? Ashe (All Espers) vs Yuna (All Aeons).

- They can only summon 1 creature at a time.
- Some magical force makes it so that the summons can't hurt the summoners, unless said summoner is out of summons to use..
- Espers have no time limits.

Kuroudo
10-27-2007, 11:01 PM
uhh which espers?

i dont know who asche is,

there are espers from FFVI and FFXII.

but from either side the Espers outnumber the Aeons by allot + the fact that Bahaumt is on both sides.

James Cizuz
10-28-2007, 12:10 AM
that means first weapon or defualt weapon. no masamune or ultima sword.
I have a save file that will argue with that :O. If I start new games I start with masamune.

Kuroudo
10-28-2007, 12:13 AM
ugh, AUron and cloud are starting with no special effect weapons!

Silhouette
10-28-2007, 12:46 AM
No, Espers from FFXII. Bahamut isn't an Esper in FFXII, his name was instead used as an airship.. like Shiva and Ifrit.

In FFXII, the summons - Espers (http://www.final-fantasy-12.com/ff12_summons.html) - were either gods, or created by the gods. Don't let that alter your judgement though, since most of them were weaksauce.. Save for Ultima and Zodiark.

Ashe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Characters_of_Final_Fantasy_XII#Ashelia_B.27nargin_Dalmasca). Since they can use several different types of weapons in XII, she'll be using a staff to match Yuna.

Aina1
10-28-2007, 03:28 AM
i thought that clown dude was cool . . .

ninjabot
10-28-2007, 05:26 AM
Does Yuna get all three Magus sisters at once? Seems a tad hax don't you think? Hmm...well, each summon has elemental weaknesses save for Bahamut, Zalera, Exodus, and Zeromus. Should we choose which summons fight first?

Also, just because summons can't attack summoners, doesn't mean summoners can't attack eachother, right? Despite that their both using staves, I still can see Ashe beating Yuna in a straight-up melee bout.

Cleric
10-28-2007, 06:12 AM
How much of the series have you seen/read . . . buggy the clown was back in like the first ark ^_^

Silhouette
10-28-2007, 06:37 AM
Yes, Ashe would win an a physical brawl, being a warrior.. sortof. But like, I don't think they'd get to fight each other, unless their summons are entirely focused on each other.

Otherwise, it'd be them standing behind their summons as they duked it out.

Magus sisters.. meh. I have a feeling that Zodiark or Ultima would eat them for breakfast, lunch, dinner, and dessert. (The fat one being lunch and dinner.. and the bee being dessert).

*shrug* Not much those three can do against flying foes, right? Their only projectile moves are the red one's Razzia, and the bee's Passado..

Most of the Espers can fly, so yeah..

But anyway, I guess we should pick which summons fight which? Belias vs Ifrit has already been done. *cough* But in this case, I don't think it matters.

It'd be a physical fight, since they'd just heal each other with fire. Belias would probably win, having a large axe and four arms..

Who's next?

ninjabot
10-28-2007, 06:57 AM
Shiva and Mateus (cause I'm an Aquarius). Would the same hold true here as well, since Mateus has a spear? And I don't remember, but couldn't Yuna's Aeons use spells outside of there normal element? If so, Shiva could fry Mateus with lightening till he died.

Also, you're right about Ultima and Zodiark being uber. Heck, Valefor and Bahamut are the only flying Aeons, and I don't know if they can fly into orbit like Zodiark or Ultima.

Oh, how about Yojimbo vs. Shemhazai? Samurai vs. Gunner...

Silhouette
10-28-2007, 07:29 AM
Yeh, FFX Aeons can learn spells outside of their element. So that is true that they can use that to their advantage.. Hm.

The FFXII 'Deathblows' were uberly exaggerated as opposed to the not so intense Overdrives of the FFX Aeons.

Like Zodiark for example. No idea wtf was going on there, but he blows up like a supernova or something... right? Ultima blasts down a giant beam of destruction..

Anyway, I think Bahamut could fly into orbit.. maybe. Not so sure about Valefor though.

Yojimbo has Zanmato, but it pretty much doesn't exist. If you see it on Youtube, its definately like... faked. *shakes fist at Yojimbo for NEVER using Zanmato for him*

I've never really used Shemhazai, but doesn't she drain soul energy? Or use it.. or something. I forgot what she did.. *looks it up*

Tobi
10-28-2007, 06:24 PM
I thought Ichirin No Hana (3rd Bleach opening) full version was kinda metally with the death screaming.

James Cizuz
10-28-2007, 06:24 PM
ugh, AUron and cloud are starting with no special effect weapons!
To bad I know game shark codes mwhahahaha.

Aina1
10-28-2007, 08:25 PM
it's cool. :cool:

Tobi
10-28-2007, 08:46 PM
Mmmmmmm nostalgia is good. Brings back old memories, nice find.

Kuroudo
10-29-2007, 12:15 AM
Cheater. you have no skill.

skyoon
10-29-2007, 12:42 AM
FFX doesn't take too much "skill" to beat anyway....

Aina1
10-29-2007, 01:42 AM
r they gonna replace Bleach with Deathnote?

silverwolf801
10-29-2007, 01:44 AM
they already did

Aina1
10-29-2007, 01:48 AM
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James Cizuz
10-29-2007, 02:00 AM
FFX doesn't take too much "skill" to beat anyway....

Beat nemisis. The hardest boss and tell me that. It hits 100k, has 10 million HP, and your maxed at hitting 100k on it. No using yojimbo!

Silhouette
10-29-2007, 02:05 AM
99k* is the max damage you can do.

Not much debating going on here, huh? Cloud vs Auron.. hm. Something about this seems very familiar.. I can't put my finger on it though.

*shrugs*

Cloud hax, and nothing I will ever say will hold any ground to 'fanboys'. So I'll just move along...

James Cizuz
10-29-2007, 02:08 AM
99k* is the max damage you can do.
Not much debating going on here, huh? Cloud vs Auron.. hm. Something about this seems very familiar.. I can't put my finger on it though.
*shrugs*
Cloud hax, and nothing I will ever say will hold any ground to 'fanboys'. So I'll just move along...
Actually it depends. All characters can hit 99,999 so 100k. But use lulu or wakka and you can hit 99,999 like 10-20 times, so 2 million. But buhamut can hit up to 1 million with his special key opened. So yeah :/.

skyoon
10-29-2007, 02:10 AM
Beat nemisis. The hardest boss and tell me that. It hits 100k, has 10 million HP, and your maxed at hitting 100k on it. No using yojimbo!

Penace > Nemesis

And yes, I've beaten both.

Silhouette
10-29-2007, 02:21 AM
Actually it depends. All characters can hit 99,999 so 100k. But use lulu or wakka and you can hit 99,999 like 10-20 times, so 2 million. But buhamut can hit up to 1 million with his special key opened. So yeah :/.

I meant per hit. Its 99k per hit with characters. -_-

And it doesn't matter who beat what, because in ALL FF games, there's always people who can solo pwn monsters like Nemesis, Omega, etc.

But back on topic, for the sake of not spamming.

Auron vs Cloud. Eh?

zan_get_su
10-29-2007, 02:39 AM
Death Note 2nd episode is ready to download ...Enjoy

Death Note - 02 - Confrontation {C_P}

http://imgcash1.imageshack.us/img155/671/vlcsnap75921em9.png

MU Link

http://www.megaupload.com/?f=FS9PPEQV

Kuroudo
10-29-2007, 02:49 AM
Heh, i remember someone Vlaew or Ninjabot saying something about you dont use Hitpoints in a anime arena battle.

And it doesn't matter who beat what, because in ALL FF games, there's always people who can solo pwn monsters like Nemesis, Omega, etc.

the only monster not killed was Omega from FF7 DoC but yeah thats pretty much true

ninjabot
10-29-2007, 05:40 AM
The only reason I haven't posted in this thread yet is because this one has already been done before. In the rules it says not to make the same thread more than once (or something to that effect) and that you should search the forum beforehand so you'll know what threads were made.

BTW, Cloud won that one aswell.

Jay3205
10-29-2007, 05:46 AM
Given that this match seems to be going by typical RPG rules, a victor can't be decided without knowing HP levels, attack power, and defense power.

Kurita77
10-29-2007, 06:12 PM
I would hold on to it and wait for the right time to use it. yea i would kill people lol

konakona
10-29-2007, 06:57 PM
When Id get tired of living, just scribble in

"Konakona dies from sexual exaustion after having sex with 10 uber hawt chicks for 4 days nonstop"

Yes, Id use it

blah
10-29-2007, 07:02 PM
No, I would eat it page by page! DX

Rhea
10-29-2007, 07:04 PM
Good luck with that you actually have to have the 10 uber hawt chicks or else you'll just die of a heart attack......so heart attack it is then. Lawl jk jk:D

Hmmm, honestly no I don't think that I would use it, who am I to judge someone else, it is not my position that and it is killing someone I just couldn't do it.

Yuki
10-29-2007, 08:25 PM
There a scene of an anime which I love:

- Lucky Star dance (episode 24 at the very end)

I'm looking for that scene (video) saved as .avi and high quality (I don't mind if they have subs, but I would love it if they were RAWs).
Only that scene. I'm too lazy to look for them, d/l them and crop the scene. Plus, I don't know where to find a high quality video of the first one (the hare hare yukai dance).

I'm willing to pay 10000 vBux for this one.

Remember!! I'm looking for the clip, not the song (I already have it), the file format is very important, if it's not .avi, don't bother posting it here.

The first one to get them to me, gets the points. Post here that you have the clips and then send me a pm with the d/l links.

@mods: I'm not sure if this thread should go here. I thought of posting it in the music section, but since it's about anime scenes, I posted it here. If it's not allowed to make this sort of thread, delete it. Sorry for any inconvenience I might cause.

Jinzu
10-29-2007, 09:32 PM
I go for the Chiro's.
Though the yoma's look cooler ^^

Samanosuke
10-29-2007, 10:11 PM
Chiropteran can only be killed by Saya's blood, so they come out on top easily.

It's like saying Ichigo can kill Ganondorf with the Triforce Fragment of Power.

Samanosuke
10-29-2007, 10:16 PM
Who wins


Samanosuke from Onimusha 3

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f101/gspot11/samunosukeakechi.jpg



or


Hideyasu Yuki aka Soki from Onimusha Dawn of Dreams

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/Seirio/SokiHideyasuYuki.jpg

FullMetal Rebel
10-30-2007, 03:43 AM
Samanosuke wins, Soki doesn't have the sword skill of Samanosuke.

FullMetal Rebel
10-30-2007, 03:44 AM
Since this is RPG rules Auron wins. FFX characters have the highest limit on stats out of any FF game, giving Auron the easy victory.

nx6
10-30-2007, 08:06 AM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! (takes breath) NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

They didn't replace Bleach, at least not permanently. It's on hiatus. When Death Note is done Bleach will resume.

Note: This is mentioned several times in this thread.

Jaran
10-30-2007, 08:14 AM
I'm actually enjoying the Death Note dub.

Although it's kind of weird that Ichigo's VA is also Raito's (Light's) VA. Johnny Yung Bosch (or however it's spelled) is good, but he's getting a tad overused...

Anywho, I've never seen him do a character badly, so no complaints as of yet.

Can't wait to see who voices Misa. :D

db
10-30-2007, 08:39 AM
J-metal OPs are pretty rare. Its mostly rock/pop or those slow ones :P

James Cizuz
10-30-2007, 12:22 PM
I meant per hit. Its 99k per hit with characters. -_-
And it doesn't matter who beat what, because in ALL FF games, there's always people who can solo pwn monsters like Nemesis, Omega, etc.
But back on topic, for the sake of not spamming.
Auron vs Cloud. Eh?
Not really.. Remember, Nemisis can hit 100k, and your characters can only have 100k hp(Thats if you break the 3 node locks on the sphere grid, otherwise you get capped at 9999, and when you DO unlock them, you wasted all the hp you gained while at 9999.) and you hit 99,999 not 99k. Rules of rounding up state 5 or more equal ^. So yes 100k. Oh, and nemisis's whole "hit 2 people with 100k thing" which would auto-kill anyone, let alone 2 of your characters. Then you waste the next turn healing him. Oh, and yeah their is a stronger monster then nemisis, but he only has 5 mil hp... However I hit 30k on him... High ass def... Especially since I hit 99,999 on nemisis.

silverwolf801
10-30-2007, 02:41 PM
hm I am liking Death Note as well with the crazy Light dude and his apple eating friend. And that very intuitive L person.

Dope Hat
10-30-2007, 04:06 PM
How much of the series have you seen/read . . . buggy the clown was back in like the first ark ^_^

and? That still makes him awesome >P

Marquis de Sado
10-30-2007, 06:58 PM
If I had a good reason to kill who I want to kill, then yeah, I'd use the Death Note. But it wouldn't be like, "Oh, this person is annoying, let's put his name in there."

Gray Fox
10-30-2007, 07:39 PM
Light isn't voiced by Johnny Yong Bosch >_>

Silhouette
10-30-2007, 08:47 PM
You know what I meant... Its 99,999. That's that. There is no rounding (rounding is with decimals btw), since when you SEE the damage value pop up over the monster, its 99,999. Also note that I said CHARACTERS! As in playable characters, not monsters.

Its 99,999 damage per hit at max for playable characters. That's that.

Debate on Auron vs Cloud? Yes, thanks. Like FMR has stated, Auron wins this fight easily with stats and whatnot. And I do believe someone has said that this thread was made already anyway..

Seff vi Britannia
10-30-2007, 09:25 PM
Beat nemisis. The hardest boss and tell me that. It hits 100k, has 10 million HP, and your maxed at hitting 100k on it. No using yojimbo!

You'll find penance is the hardest boss...

- , -

Kuroudo
10-30-2007, 10:29 PM
You know what I meant... Its 99,999. That's that. There is no rounding (rounding is with decimals btw), since when you SEE the damage value pop up over the monster, its 99,999. Also note that I said CHARACTERS! As in playable characters, not monsters.
Its 99,999 damage per hit at max for playable characters. That's that.
Debate on Auron vs Cloud? Yes, thanks. Like FMR has stated, Auron wins this fight easily with stats and whatnot. And I do believe someone has said that this thread was made already anyway..

First off, Anime Arena battles are not RPG battles, no stats or how much damage or hitpoints, It depends on who is really better in combat.

Second, The guy who said that this thread was made already was Ninjabot and cloud won it, (Though i didnt know it was made already)

Finnaly, why are we debating about how much damage people can do in FFX?

Silhouette
10-30-2007, 10:45 PM
First off, Anime Arena battles are not RPG battles, no stats or how much damage or hitpoints, It depends on who is really better in combat.

No kidding?

Second, The guy who said that this thread was made already was Ninjabot and cloud won it, (Though i didnt know it was made already)


I realize that.

Finnaly, why are we debating about how much damage people can do in FFX?

Ask the other guy. >.>

Edgey
10-31-2007, 01:24 AM
I thought Ichirin No Hana (3rd Bleach opening) full version was kinda metally with the death screaming.
Ye[ that is indeed J-Metal, if you want more, download Maximum the Hormone, best J-Metal band in the world! \o/

Kuroudo
10-31-2007, 01:40 AM
Okay so,

Cloud wins this battle XD because it was fought already. no more debating
Go ahead and debate about FFX dmg i dont care really.

emeraulde
10-31-2007, 10:48 AM
I looked up wikipedia and found out that they are keeping the author's name of death note a secret. Why is that?

Decado
10-31-2007, 10:52 AM
So no one uses the Death Note on him









/me hit the obvious

Anyway, it says it was created by Tsugumi Ohba and the illustrator is Takeshi Obata

Munky
10-31-2007, 12:09 PM
:o Oh!
*takes out Death Note and writes the name of the author*

Die!

StoneTitan
10-31-2007, 04:57 PM
True a remake could be devastating if they make GNG into GDW quallity >_<
THought the GDW manga is pretty cool it's just far from logical compared to GNG gneerally were.(mainly the time jump of 14-15 years or so hurt it)
I mean how many dogs live to be in there i suppose 20's in Ben's case :s
THough one can see they're not in there prime anymore.
Also Weed is a moron in the anime, he is just naive in the manga, the anime takes it to the extreme.


Gin & Riki, nice main character personallities and some really strong willed characters

Cleric
10-31-2007, 10:14 PM
I don't know if you could consider him an official villain bur Dragon rocks ^_^

SaberBlade
11-01-2007, 02:23 AM
I can help with you a high quality version of the first one, i'll send you the link.

The third one is possible however I am not sure you'll be able to get it as AVI as the site requires you to install one of their players to download it (but before they wanted you to install software they did provide avi downloads). I'll send that link as well. The first appears to be raw, third has japanese lyrics.

Yuki
11-01-2007, 07:59 AM
Thanks =)

Btw, this thread should be closed now. I already got the other one.

Thanks for everything.

granamonkey
11-01-2007, 05:56 PM
Ichirin No Hana was post-hardcore IMO. I like them a lot. The Metal scene in Japan is growing, its just still way underground, so you won't find many in Animes. I got a huge list of Japanese metal bands ranging from Melodic Death Metal to Sludge/Grind metal. PM me if you wants a list of em. My favorite J-metal band is Serpent or Blood Stain Child (1st 2 albums mainly, other two are decent).

James Cizuz
11-01-2007, 08:04 PM
First off, Anime Arena battles are not RPG battles, no stats or how much damage or hitpoints, It depends on who is really better in combat.
Second, The guy who said that this thread was made already was Ninjabot and cloud won it, (Though i didnt know it was made already)
Finnaly, why are we debating about how much damage people can do in FFX?
First off, RPG game characters ARE NOT(notice the word not?) anime characters. They are from respective games and fall under the RPG rules. I always post silly shit when dumbasses make threads like this, if you post something that is not supposed to be in anime arena here, then yes your getting a crappy answer. Unless it was a RPG Vs Anime char, then I might debate it.

Kuroudo
11-01-2007, 08:39 PM
Yeah okay, but what does it matter? Cloud won already.

James Cizuz
11-01-2007, 10:52 PM
Yeah okay, but what does it matter? Cloud won already.
How? RPG rules for a RPG Vs RPG battle. To bad your cloud only got a 9,999 HP max and a 9,999 damage max and no way to make it any higher eh? Auron has his 99,999 HP, and his 99,999 damage.

XING
11-01-2007, 11:15 PM
i think cloud would win :p

Kuroudo
11-02-2007, 01:30 AM
How? RPG rules for a RPG Vs RPG battle. To bad your cloud only got a 9,999 HP max and a 9,999 damage max and no way to make it any higher eh? Auron has his 99,999 HP, and his 99,999 damage.


......................................................................................

lol

If you read ninjabots post he said that this thread was made already (i didnt know about it) and Cloud won the battle. so no more Auron has allot more stats than cloud, The battle was fought, with two people at diffrent power levels (with aurons being higher) its like the battle of Yavin

Rebel Alliance

Spirit of Obi-Wan Kenobi
30 X-Wings
- Luke Skywalker
- Biggs Darklighter
- Wedge Antillies
- Red Leader
- Gold Leader
15 Y-Wings
- Garven Dreis
1 Modified Corellian YT-3100
- Millneium Falcon
- Han Solo
- Chewbacca

VS

The Galactic Empire
Death Star I
-200 Tie-Fighters
- Death Squadron
-Darth Vader
- 120 Tie Bombers
- 1,000+ Surface-Air Heavy Blaster Turrets
Imperial Navy
-80 Tie-Fighters
-30 Tie-Bombers
-Two Imperial Star Destroyer Class Cruisers

and the rebel alliance won! suprising isnt it?

Kuroudo
11-02-2007, 05:42 PM
Well since the arrival of the new Ratchet and Clank game i thought id put this up.

granamonkey
11-02-2007, 05:47 PM
Jak&Daxter FTW!!! Jak would go crazy on Ratchet and kill him while Dax would just...uh, sit there and talk with Clank.

James Cizuz
11-02-2007, 07:59 PM
......................................................................................

lol

If you read ninjabots post he said that this thread was made already (i didnt know about it) and Cloud won the battle. so no more Auron has allot more stats than cloud, The battle was fought, with two people at diffrent power levels (with aurons being higher) its like the battle of Yavin

Rebel Alliance

Spirit of Obi-Wan Kenobi
30 X-Wings
- Luke Skywalker
- Biggs Darklighter
- Wedge Antillies
- Red Leader
- Gold Leader
15 Y-Wings
- Garven Dreis
1 Modified Corellian YT-3100
- Millneium Falcon
- Han Solo
- Chewbacca

VS

The Galactic Empire
Death Star I
-200 Tie-Fighters
- Death Squadron
-Darth Vader
- 120 Tie Bombers
- 1,000+ Surface-Air Heavy Blaster Turrets
Imperial Navy
-80 Tie-Fighters
-30 Tie-Bombers
-Two Imperial Star Destroyer Class Cruisers

and the rebel alliance won! suprising isnt it?
Finland with a much less army then russia beat off russia losing not many men, while killing nearly 250 thousand russias(bigger then the whole finland army) they were against 1 million russians.

Whats your point? Cloud wins because people think he is good. It's a RPG battle, not an anime one. If strategy wins this fight, auron wins. If RPG battles rules win this fight, auron wins.

James Cizuz
11-02-2007, 08:01 PM
Uhm... Is this a serious thread? Last I checked jak and daxter only saved 1 planet, not a universe vs hundreds of thousands of enemies, and people with the power to destroy planets. Plus ratchet's weapons always owned the jak and daxter weapons.

Side note: Just finished ratchet and clank future tools of destruction, best in the series, best looking game out on consoles to date.

Kuroudo
11-02-2007, 08:50 PM
Finland with a much less army then russia beat off russia losing not many men, while killing nearly 250 thousand russias(bigger then the whole finland army) they were against 1 million russians.
Whats your point? Cloud wins because people think he is good. It's a RPG battle, not an anime one. If strategy wins this fight, auron wins. If RPG battles rules win this fight, auron wins.

The Point IS, Cloud won the battle and auron lost, Wheter its because people thinks hes better or he atcually beat him. HE STILL WON GET OVER IT.

Kuroudo
11-02-2007, 09:14 PM
Uhm... Is this a serious thread? Last I checked jak and daxter only saved 1 planet, not a universe vs hundreds of thousands of enemies, and people with the power to destroy planets. Plus ratchet's weapons always owned the jak and daxter weapons.

Side note: Just finished ratchet and clank future tools of destruction, best in the series, best looking game out on consoles to date.


Hey, ive never played J&D or R&C i just know the characters and stuff. never really knew their abilties. btw: Best looking game? what you mean like looks fun to play or like graphics?

TargaryenX
11-03-2007, 12:10 AM
This thread should be more appropriately titled "Gadgetron vs. Jak&Daxter". You have to take into account that much of Ratchet's success is because of his badass weaponry, which gives new meaning to the phrase "one-man army". Jak on the other hand is stuck with a gun that was probably thrown together somewhere in a junk shop on that god-forsaken planet he comes from. If Jak had access to anywhere near the same level of technology that Ratchet did, or if it was an unarmed match (well, wrench vs fists) my bet would be on Jak.

Kenta
11-03-2007, 06:38 AM
http://s02.mangashare.com/releases/One_Piece_477%5BMS%5D.zip

No Luffy yet it seems.

James Cizuz
11-03-2007, 03:38 PM
Hey, ive never played J&D or R&C i just know the characters and stuff. never really knew their abilties. btw: Best looking game? what you mean like looks fun to play or like graphics?

No I mean best graphics in a game to date. They are not like other previous games that are compared to "being in a pixar movie" they are graphics that transend/exactly like the quality of "being in a pixar movie". I had my doubt on the game, only see a few videos, even the videos in HD DOES NOT do the game justice till you play it. It even looks better then gears, and bioshock, that is saying something. Though uncharted and UT3 will look better, but meh it is the best to date for looks. It is hard to compare the graphics between games so it usually comes down to taste, but the textures in the game are of such high quality, coupled with the enemies and their is so much happening on screen and off screen it's ridicules, especially to keep the level of detail they have.

Don't want to start a war here, just take my word, and the word of all the reviewers, if it doesn't look good in graphics to you, you haven't played it.

Tobi
11-03-2007, 05:34 PM
:o Oh!
*takes out Death Note and writes the name of the author*
Die!

You need to see his face too.

S-puff
11-03-2007, 06:16 PM
I support him all the way cause kira rocks.... all hail kira

cappy3
11-03-2007, 07:50 PM
i support kira because then there will be less people in this world to worry about and more people that do the right thing instead of the wrong thing. Yeah that is all i have to say.

cappy3
11-03-2007, 07:54 PM
sadly that really works if your really think about it. it really says exactually what light wants to do.

Joe Black
11-03-2007, 07:58 PM
whoa, i didn't know that Naruto, Edward, and Inuyasha were Kira supporters.

really nice find. I don't think I would have ever compared Scar with Light.

Aina1
11-03-2007, 08:13 PM
i'd tell him to kill my math teacher. she ancient. she was supposed to 500 years ago.

Aina1
11-03-2007, 08:14 PM
i think light is hot . . .

Tobi
11-03-2007, 08:27 PM
I feel that this is appropriate.
http://pbfcomics.com/archive/0PBF61009BC-Weeaboo.jpg

User was banned for this post

EndlessSky
11-03-2007, 11:08 PM
Mello, Matt, and Mikami Teru are my favorite characters. They are awesome and I like their passionate and ambitious personalities.

silverwolf801
11-04-2007, 04:28 AM
I am against that crazy azz bum. Would he really sell half of his life for some special eyes

FullMetal Rebel
11-04-2007, 04:44 AM
Rachet and Clank win handsdown. They have advanced technology on their side and heavy firepower, which Jak and Daxter lacks.

Shime117
11-04-2007, 06:26 AM
I would support Kira endlessly, and I'd actually think he is a god, being gullible ole' me. I'd actually try to be one of his lil' minions, but I would never be able to think like them.

teilwal
11-04-2007, 08:13 AM
i wish they had shown more of matt..there was too little of him for me to really like him..he was still cool though. i found mikamis way of saying eliminate while he wrote the names of criminals in the death note..um..amusing if nothing else..he was crazy but thats why we love him along with light :redbiggri

Pie <3
11-04-2007, 03:04 PM
okyo Majin Gakuen Kenpuchou OP Theme

The best one ever ^^


Link to the OP : http://youtube.com/watch?v=qGZpBwqtspc

EndlessSky
11-04-2007, 09:38 PM
I've read its possibly because its a famous author that did many other popular works but since Death Note was so different from his others he used a pen name.

Who knows for sure though :P.


You can read more about it here

http://www.horrormanga.com/death%20note%20creator.html

it's funny how it says the author resembles L :D

Kuroudo
11-04-2007, 11:09 PM
No I mean best graphics in a game to date. They are not like other previous games that are compared to "being in a pixar movie" they are graphics that transend/exactly like the quality of "being in a pixar movie". I had my doubt on the game, only see a few videos, even the videos in HD DOES NOT do the game justice till you play it. It even looks better then gears, and bioshock, that is saying something. Though uncharted and UT3 will look better, but meh it is the best to date for looks. It is hard to compare the graphics between games so it usually comes down to taste, but the textures in the game are of such high quality, coupled with the enemies and their is so much happening on screen and off screen it's ridicules, especially to keep the level of detail they have.
Don't want to start a war here, just take my word, and the word of all the reviewers, if it doesn't look good in graphics to you, you haven't played it.

Seriously? R&C looks the best? Even better than Halo 3, Metal Gear Solid: Guns of the Patriots, Gears and Bioshock? Thats pretty impressive. Though i doubt that others will same the same.

MacDre.
11-05-2007, 06:54 AM
Spoilers from ep 25... Please don't post anything after ep 25
I just watched ep 25 and L dies just like that? Thats crap, Light is smart as hell but I was rooting for L sense L really was smarter, Kira (Light) had the advantage. And Lights a douche. But whoever wrote this is amazing, the way it makes you think...

James Cizuz
11-05-2007, 12:21 PM
Seriously? R&C looks the best? Even better than Halo 3, Metal Gear Solid: Guns of the Patriots, Gears and Bioshock? Thats pretty impressive. Though i doubt that others will same the same.
1. Halo 3 runs at 640p, is not really next gen in graphics. I have it, it's not good in graphics. Though I liked it somewhat, was never really a fan of the story to begin with, it's kinda old and outdated(E.g. halo comics).
2. Metal gear solid is not out, and it's hard to tell from videos anyway. Ratchet and clank looks horrible in videos. Though in true 1080p it looks better then the videos for metal gear, but that might change when it's out.
3. I have gears, though it does "appeal" more in graphics to most people, and me included, ratchet is better. Mainly it's close, but with the 1080 textures on ratchet, all the stuff on screen(litterally hundreds of ships in sky, all rendered 3D, amount of enemies, and free rome, no loading in levels) ratchet wins.
4. I actually have bioshock for the computer(it's better then the 360 version in DX10) though I can not tell the difference between bioshock computer version at ratchet, when playing it on a 360 with bioshock, there is a huge difference. I would still say ratchet looks better then bioshock on computer... However to hard to tell, looks better to me, but it's a "opinion" type thing with graphics so close.

The_Supervisor
11-05-2007, 03:58 PM
OP by ACID? that's jrock isn't it? >___>

Tobi
11-05-2007, 05:34 PM
L isn't really dead, it's all a ruse to get Light into bed

Sendivoge
11-05-2007, 05:52 PM
It's not really something worth it's own thread though is it. We can't discuss anything after episode 25, and there are very few people up to the exact same point as you. I disagree with you saying L is smarter than Light, but that's about it, in terms of discussion on my part... It's a great show. :)

Lelouch
11-05-2007, 06:07 PM
L isn't really dead, it's all a ruse to get Light into bed
rofl dude :D

granamonkey
11-05-2007, 08:06 PM
I'd say thats post-hardcore, or just J-rock, it's defiantly not metal.

Kuroudo
11-05-2007, 10:43 PM
Playstation 3 was really built for the graphics and stuff anyways. no wonder it was 600$, Though i'd prefer a wii over a ps3 any day.

Oh god, i really hope that im not the only halo fan in club bleach.

btw: The halo comics and books are just side stories, some never-heard of before authors just trying to make some cash, there all just spinn-offs, Master chief and the arbiter and the games kick more ass than any other spartan/Elite and for that matter many other people out of the non-halo universe, you must know at least that master chief is one of the most bad ass characters created. also another good game graphics is Oblivion, atcually idgac (i dont give a crap) about the graphics (as long as its not like 3d with 8-bit graphics) as long as its fun and or addictive/intresting

Damascus
11-06-2007, 02:17 PM
For Light winning, I just attribute it to the fact that Light still knew more about the Death Note than L, and when you manipulate a Shinigami like he did, there wasn't much L could do to protect himself.

James Cizuz
11-06-2007, 08:52 PM
Playstation 3 was really built for the graphics and stuff anyways. no wonder it was 600$, Though i'd prefer a wii over a ps3 any day.

Oh god, i really hope that im not the only halo fan in club bleach.

btw: The halo comics and books are just side stories, some never-heard of before authors just trying to make some cash, there all just spinn-offs, Master chief and the arbiter and the games kick more ass than any other spartan/Elite and for that matter many other people out of the non-halo universe, you must know at least that master chief is one of the most bad ass characters created. also another good game graphics is Oblivion, atcually idgac (i dont give a crap) about the graphics (as long as its not like 3d with 8-bit graphics) as long as its fun and or addictive/intresting
Oblivion didn't look that good. Neither does halo, FOR a next gen game anyway. There still good, own oblivion and halo, though I am not fond of halo myself. Oh, and I am talking about the ORIGINAL halo comics from the 70-80's, what the games are based on.

Kuroudo
11-07-2007, 12:31 AM
No i am very sure that halo started from the games,


Master Chief was created by bungie studios in 2001, by Marcus Lehto, Rob McLees, and Shi Kai Wang
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_Chief_%28Halo%29#Character_design

and

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/John-117
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_%28series%29

only halo comics was some superhero named halo (who is a chick and has no relation to master chief at all) and the only other 70's thing relating to halo was a book called ringworld, but tottaly difrent story just that ringworld's halo is similar to the halo in halo series, just on a bigger scale of size.

Kuroudo
11-07-2007, 12:50 AM
Nothin happenin so, can i we end this fight and say that the FFX Aeons win?

anyways, i call for a fight between...

dont worry its not another VII vs X

"One Winged Angel" vs "The Undying"

Silhouette
11-07-2007, 01:25 AM
No, because the Espers have stronger attacks..

Kuroudo
11-07-2007, 01:35 AM
can we call it a draw or sometin? this fight isnt going anywhere.

Silhouette
11-07-2007, 01:49 AM
We could just say that the Aeons lose. Because like, the most an Aeon can do would be destroy a mountain maybe.. Zodiark can make supernova-esque explosions.

With summons aside, Ashe beats FFX Yuna easily, since she's a fighter and whatnot.

Ashe wins, Yuna loses?

Princess Gheyfu
11-07-2007, 02:37 AM
I'd say thats post-hardcore, or just J-rock, it's defiantly not metal.

mmmhm. I own the cd, and when I uploaded it to my compu, the genre for all the songs were "Rock".

ninjabot
11-07-2007, 05:57 AM
My bad for the delay, but yeah, we'll give this one to Ashe. Now...howabout...

Yuffie vs. Rikku (FFX version)? Two fast-fighting ninja-esque characters. Yuffie gets All Creation (final limit break) and Rikku gets her strongest offensive "Mix".

Kuroudo
11-07-2007, 12:43 PM
Uh isnt this another VII vs X? it seems they have the advantage due to the non-final fantasy-like "Break Dmg and health limit".

really depends on the items that rikku starts with in order to do mix.

Silhouette
11-07-2007, 12:55 PM
^ Damage doesn't matter..

But anyway, I've never played FFVII to see All Creation, but Rikku's strongest Mix would be equivalent to Ultima.. actually, no. She might have something stronger actually, since there's several different animations for her Mixes that aren't seen with normal spells.

In short, Rikku would win if her Mix landed. But I need to know what All Creation looks like exactly.. And I'm on dialup btw.. no vids, thanks.

But with special moves aside, Yuffie would probably win. She has that long-range.. star thing, right? Yeah, that's hax against close-range combat Rikku, unless you gave her grenades (which is essentially her basic weapon of choice).

Then Rikku wins..

Sesshomaru
11-07-2007, 01:09 PM
Auron doesn't have a chance against Cloud from AC... Cloud is stronger, faster in every way better then Auron... and this come from me who doesn't like Cloud xD

ninjabot
11-07-2007, 03:00 PM
All Creation=Kamehameha...but with multiple hits even though it is a beam. Not sure number of hits can be taken into account in a match like this unless it was an actual combo like Omnislash (which the majority of her limit breaks are anyway).

James Cizuz
11-08-2007, 03:07 AM
No i am very sure that halo started from the games,


Master Chief was created by bungie studios in 2001, by Marcus Lehto, Rob McLees, and Shi Kai Wang
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_Chief_%28Halo%29#Character_design

and

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/John-117
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_%28series%29

only halo comics was some superhero named halo (who is a chick and has no relation to master chief at all) and the only other 70's thing relating to halo was a book called ringworld, but tottaly difrent story just that ringworld's halo is similar to the halo in halo series, just on a bigger scale of size.

It was still based of halo comics. I still have hard-copy of chapter 8. Though master chief is not in it, nor exists at all(basically multiple story lines through the spartans eyes) the game is still based of them. Halo the game is a story sticking to one spartan. It was not a very good comic mind you, and was full of plot holes, but yes it has everything halo has, mostly. Plus bungie devs stated they based the over-all storyline from multiple scores, and influenced by the old halo comics. Though they did come up with some aspects, the game is not a new storyline.

granamonkey
11-08-2007, 04:12 PM
Well I upload CD's also and they have the generic label, which in this case would be rock. Hardcore is sub genre of rock/metal (depending on the band), and post-hardcore is a sub genre of hardcore. So it is Post-Hardcore, but that is my opinion. What rock song has a decent metal solo like in Ichirin no Hana?? Or the decent hardcore vocals? They're post-hardcore imo, with Metal themes.

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Munky
11-09-2007, 12:46 PM
What the fuck is this??

Kuroudo
11-10-2007, 01:20 AM
that sux, i dont care if they borrowed some minor elements from other things, but the story not original?! that just pisses me off T_T, i dont really trust what you say, i cant find the "old halo comics" on line or anything about them, not on wikipedia nor halopedia or on google.

Kenta
11-10-2007, 01:48 AM
http://www.sendspace.com/file/jnc8c7

Awesome chapter this week. Luffy is pwning.

Inoue Hatake
11-10-2007, 03:30 AM
:lol


There is something I am wandering about but, I wander if any one agrees with me but, dont you think Light is......well...... a hot head in a way?

Inoue Hatake
11-10-2007, 03:37 AM
When I went to vote I said Light but, I do like l too.....

Inoue Hatake
11-10-2007, 03:39 AM
i think light is hot . . .




:biggrinlo
I THINK HE IS HOT 2!!!!!

James Cizuz
11-10-2007, 04:47 AM
that sux, i dont care if they borrowed some minor elements from other things, but the story not original?! that just pisses me off T_T, i dont really trust what you say, i cant find the "old halo comics" on line or anything about them, not on wikipedia nor halopedia or on google.
Half my mistake.

I do have a comic of "halo" chapter 8, but it's that chicks comic. Just kept checking, though she isn't in the chapter at all, and I see people in green suits, in space. Though thats wrong, bungie did state the idea of the halo, in halo come from outside sources, as well as based on a few comics they bought rights to. Which I supposed was that. Though in the end the story is still not original even if they came up with it by themselves, aliens? Trying to destroy human kind? Where have I heard that a hundred thousand times before.

Kuroudo
11-10-2007, 05:07 AM
that makes me feel allot better. but wtf? a whole comic about some random chick with superpowers named halo is not in one chapter that has people in green armor fighting? btw: like i said i dont care if took minor elements, i mean there are hundrends of stories where the we are fighting the aliens or the aliens beat us and were a undergronund resistance. however the parasite of the flood in between the war and the forerunners being the instigators behind the war (Covenant fighting for the forerunners sake and the humans being the descendents of the forerunners) that was the break away from the whole basic alien vs humans scenario.

Damascus
11-10-2007, 05:18 AM
If you mean he has a short temper, I don't think he does. He keeps his cool in some very tight situations, even when the people around him are blantantly insulting Kira. The only time he really gets pissed off is when he gets outsmarted by someone... which really doesn't happen that often...

Kinski
11-10-2007, 09:14 AM
Yeah...he seems retarded when he's almost fucked up and then starts laughing like an as*
He's immature xD

Sendivoge
11-10-2007, 09:19 AM
Inside his head, i'd say definitely, but he usually manages to keep a cool exterior.

Kinski
11-10-2007, 09:46 AM
L, definitly, Yagami is too immature and I dislike his plans, (I don't think they're bad) but he plays alot with other peopls feelings in order to reach what he wants while L uses other methods

Mercurius
11-10-2007, 12:15 PM
I went for Light, I just like how he is able to charm everyone, and always is one step ahead of everyone else (in the end even L...)

Cleric
11-10-2007, 06:49 PM
Finally, Luffy makes a comeback ^_^ V,,

Cleric
11-10-2007, 06:50 PM
Thanks for the links to the chapters . . . even though I know where to go to get them I've been rather lazy these past few weeks ^_^

James Cizuz
11-10-2007, 09:33 PM
that makes me feel allot better. but wtf? a whole comic about some random chick with superpowers named halo is not in one chapter that has people in green armor fighting? btw: like i said i dont care if took minor elements, i mean there are hundrends of stories where the we are fighting the aliens or the aliens beat us and were a undergronund resistance. however the parasite of the flood in between the war and the forerunners being the instigators behind the war (Covenant fighting for the forerunners sake and the humans being the descendents of the forerunners) that was the break away from the whole basic alien vs humans scenario.
Not green armor, green suits. Only reason I thought it was old halo comics was bungie stating story is based on outside old sources, being named halo, and people in green suits.

James Cizuz
11-10-2007, 09:37 PM
The Point IS, Cloud won the battle and auron lost, Wheter its because people thinks hes better or he atcually beat him. HE STILL WON GET OVER IT.
A current poll going on between game character battles has shown "And the winner of the sixth annual Character Battle is Li... L-Block? Seriously? Yes, the users have spoken, and the beloved Tetris block has won the final battle. Thank you to everyone who participated!"

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Aina1
11-10-2007, 10:11 PM
i think Ryuk clothes would look good on a chick with long black hair.
that's all i needed to make clear.
and also, l os hot too. :cool:

Kuroudo
11-10-2007, 10:12 PM
plz, can you just acept that some people are just fanboys/girls? and contiune on with life?

Kuroudo
11-10-2007, 10:13 PM
well then that makes me feel allot more better,

Aina1
11-10-2007, 10:14 PM
They didn't replace Bleach, at least not permanently. It's on hiatus. When Death Note is done Bleach will resume.

Note: This is mentioned several times in this thread.
i didn't feel like reading the whole thread. i was just pissed of when it didn't come on, that's all bt i like deathnote now.

Kenta
11-10-2007, 10:39 PM
I want to see Luffy uses his Gomu Gomu no Gatling Gun with this body. I think it will instant ko Oz.

Or at least use the sword before he loses his temporary power.

Lelouch
11-11-2007, 04:43 PM
Lelouch hasnt Geass. Light hasnt the Note or any help from Shinigamis. Practically its just a battle of wits. Both of them are geniuses.
Who do you think will win?:headbang

Kuroudo
11-11-2007, 06:48 PM
wasnt there a thread like this already or sometin?

salkcin89
11-11-2007, 08:07 PM
It was a while when I saw Luffy took action

James Cizuz
11-11-2007, 11:18 PM
Mainly light because he doesn't let emotions get to him. From what I have seen of lelouch(only on episode 15) he lets emotions control him a lot.

lmsanchez1314
11-12-2007, 02:18 AM
What's are the most unusual entries you've seen so far on Death Note Online (http://www.deathnoteonline.com/)?

James and Jared
Get sat on by Pete
They were sleeping on the couch. Pete sat on them accidentally and they turn to dust.
p228


imagay light
Crushed by a giant apple
Sees visions of L and then gets crushed
p291


sasuke uchiha
kill by naruto
p553


Link
Shot by Dark Link
Was in a rival gang against dark link and was shot in a drive by shooting by him.
Dark Link: YOU JUST HATE ME CAUSE I'M BLACK
Link: HELLZ YEAH >:0
p552

Samanosuke
11-12-2007, 02:52 AM
Who wins?


Ubougin
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/65/Ubogin.jpg/230px-Ubogin.jpg


or

Ichigo at his current level

http://www.imagup.net/01/1182803286_ichigo.jpg


- Stipulations: -Both are Bloodlusted.
-Location Earth: with the difference that Ichigo can not float through the air.
- Ichigo is of course visible for Ubo.

Undying
11-12-2007, 03:14 AM
Ichigo and... Ichigo.

Ubougin, though extremely powerful, can't measure to Ichigo's speed. Ichigo's current level is far beyond anything Ubougin could achieve, ever.

Samanosuke
11-12-2007, 03:21 AM
From my point of view, Ichigo dies horribly




http://img.onemanga.com/mangas/00000078/00000075/04.jpg
http://img.onemanga.com/mangas/00000078/00000075/05.jpg

bullet time reaction speed.

http://img.onemanga.com/mangas/00000078/00000075/07.jpg
http://img.onemanga.com/mangas/00000078/00000075/08.jpg

Sniper bullets(don't mind the trans error) doesn't even faze him. And he has the strength to throw it back enough with the same force as the bullet had when fired from the gun.

http://img.onemanga.com/mangas/00000078/00000075/09.jpg
http://img.onemanga.com/mangas/00000078/00000075/10.jpg

he thought being compared to a tank is an insulting thing.

http://img.onemanga.com/mangas/00000078/00000076/14.jpg
http://img.onemanga.com/mangas/00000078/00000076/15.jpg

can kill ppl with his shout.


Swords broke in half when someone tried to cut him while he was tied on a bed. He took a bazooka shot head on laughin.

Ichigo's feat? Shunpo doesn't even move as fast as sound. Bullets can move up to the speed of sound.

Ichigo's reaction speed? Biggest feat in that one is deflecting all of Byakuya's rosepetals which are not as fast as bullets by any means.

It's self explanatory that Ubougin can take more damage than Ichigo.

Undying
11-12-2007, 03:28 AM
Ichigo's feat is unbelievable attack speed and a special beam of energy which slices through matter easily. Also Ichigo's speed is far more than a bullet.

And as far as damage goes, Ichigo's damage is far more than a bullet.

Samanosuke
11-12-2007, 12:05 PM
Ichigo's feat is unbelievable attack speed and a special beam of energy which slices through matter easily. Also Ichigo's speed is far more than a bullet.

And as far as damage goes, Ichigo's damage is far more than a bullet.


The burden of proof is always on the positive argument.

2)Burden of Proof Fallacy: This is when someone attempts to make someone else prove a claim when the burden of proof is really on them to prove it. The burden of proof is always on the positive claim, and the person who makes the claim.

Ex:

"Goku is faster than lightspeed because you can't prove he's not!"

In this case, the person in the example makes a claim (Goku is Faster Than Lightspeed), and without providing evidence for it himself, he asks his opponent to prove him wrong. In reality, the person who made that claim would be the one required to prove it.


Please back up your assumptions.

Undying
11-12-2007, 12:55 PM
Oh but I can prove it.

As far as attack power goes: Ichigo has the needed amount of power to slice apart a building with a mere flick of the wrist.

This is directly from Ichigo <= Zaraki (only power-wise), and Zaraki can easily slice apart a building, with one hand and a mere flick of the wrist. Also, Ichigo has the Getsuga Tenshou, which is far more powerful than his regular slashes.

As far as movement speed goes:

http://manga.bleachexile.com/bleach-chapter-163-page-13.html

As you can see, we can clearly see after images left by Ichigo. This kind of speed is not something Ubougin is capable of.

And as for attack speed:

http://manga.bleachexile.com/bleach-chapter-163-page-15.html

Ichigo knocked down several millions of petals, all coming at him at once from all sides.

As for your arguments:

Ubougin's reaction speed is not as high as you make it to be, as he had forewarning to the gun's firing (regular humans could dodge a gunshot if they had enough warning time).

Shunpo moves far faster than sound, Ubougin's group could block his "killer shout" before it reached them, and shunpo is faster than they.

Ichigo's reaction speed? Biggest feat in that one is deflecting all of Byakuya's rosepetals which are not as fast as bullets by any means.
:Haha

You're insulting Senbonzakura.

Samanosuke
11-12-2007, 01:58 PM
Even if Ichigo leaves after-images while moving, doesn't indicate that he is faster than sound.

Again a logical fallacy from your side.

7)Non-Sequiter: This is when someone's conclusion is not implied at all by the premise.

Example:

"Ichigo is faster than sound because he leaves 6 afterimages"

The person in this example starts with a true premise (Ichigo leaves afterimages), but then jumps to a conclusion which is in no way implied by that premise (Ichigo is FTS).



Ubougin's reaction speed is not as high as you make it to be, as he had forewarning to the gun's firing (regular humans could dodge a gunshot if they had enough warning time).

You're making it appear like the mafia guy holding the gun announced his shot and said "at the count of 3, i'll shoot".

He didn't. What makes his reaction more impressive is that he caught the bullet with his teeth, from a close range.

That proves that Ubougin can react EASILY to attacks as fast as sound.

Shunpo moves far faster than sound, Ubougin's group could block his "killer shout" before it reached them, and shunpo is faster than they.

You still haven't shown any proof for your assumption that Shunpo is faster than sound.

The fact that they could block their ears before the shout reached them, indicated that the entire Genei Ryodan can react to the speed of sound.

Ichigo knocked down several millions of petals, all coming at him at once from all sides.

So are you really wanting to tell me that Byakuya's rose petals fly at bullet speed, let alone have the power of a bullet. The same rose-petals that failed to kill Ganju in shikai and Renji in Bankai? Shallow Cuts from little blades < Penetration of a Sniper Bullet.

This is directly from Ichigo <= Zaraki (only power-wise), and Zaraki can easily slice apart a building, with one hand and a mere flick of the wrist. Also, Ichigo has the Getsuga Tenshou, which is far more powerful than his regular slashes.

Missiles can bust buildings too. Ubogin took them with ease, laughin bout it.

Undying
11-12-2007, 03:54 PM
Even if Ichigo leaves after-images while moving, doesn't indicate that he is faster than sound.

Again a logical fallacy from your side.
How is it a logical fallacy? Leaving afterimages indicates moving to fast for the eye to realize that the person is someplace else already. Eye sees quite faster than the speed of sound.
You're making it appear like the mafia guy holding the gun announced his shot and said "at the count of 3, i'll shoot".

He didn't. What makes his reaction more impressive is that he caught the bullet with his teeth, from a close range.

That proves that Ubougin can react EASILY to attacks as fast as sound.
No, no, and... no.

1. The mafia guy was holding a gun at Ubougin's face. They were in the middle of a gunfight. If that's not as good as saying he will fire, I don't know what is. Hence Ubougin had enough warning.

2. How is catching the bullet between your teeth a feat of speed? It is a feat of durability. You can simply leave your mouth slightly agape so that the bullet would stop between your teeth when the opening becomes too narrow. Naturally a bullet would break teeth, but Ubougin's are tough enough to withstand it (around slightly tougher than concrete, then).

3. Also, easily as fast as sound? Please. A bullet doesn't move faster than sound.
You still haven't shown any proof for your assumption that Shunpo is faster than sound.

The fact that they could block their ears before the shout reached them, indicated that the entire Genei Ryodan can react to the speed of sound.
I'm not assuming anything. I'm putting up facts. Ichigo left after images of himself. Leaving after images would require moving faster than the eye can see.
So are you really wanting to tell me that Byakuya's rose petals fly at bullet speed, let alone have the power of a bullet. The same rose-petals that failed to kill Ganju in shikai and Renji in Bankai? Shallow Cuts from little blades < Penetration of a Sniper Bullet.
Have you read the manga? Byakuya's petals move as fast as Bankai Ichigo, who is extremely fast. Also, as far as failed to kill... it is very difficult to kill someone in Bleach unless you sever the head. Also, Renji and Ganju were both dying.

And as far as destructive power goes, the stone wall behind Renji was shattered to tiny pieces.

Shattering a building > a tiny bullet's power.
Missiles can bust buildings too. Ubogin took them with ease, laughin bout it.
And anti-tank missile like what they fired would create a large hole in the wall. Zaraki slashed the building in two.

Sendivoge
11-12-2007, 04:28 PM
3. Also, easily as fast as sound? Please. A bullet doesn't move faster than sound.
On the contrary, most bullets used travel faster than the speed of sound upon leaving the muzzle.

Samanosuke
11-12-2007, 05:22 PM
How is it a logical fallacy? Leaving afterimages indicates moving to fast for the eye to realize that the person is someplace else already. Eye sees quite faster than the speed of sound.

It is a logical fallacy. If a person leaves after images it doesn't necessarily mean that he moves faster than sound.

1st. Ever heard of a sonic barrier?

2nd. Ichigo moves around in circles. Imagine we have a car which drives at 300 mph, which doesn't lose speed when twisting or steering. Also imagine that the physics of the inertia would not apply. There is no way of keeping up with that kind of speed with your eyes only while the car moves around you.. 300 miles per hour still isn't the speed of sound.


1. The mafia guy was holding a gun at Ubougin's face. They were in the middle of a gunfight. If that's not as good as saying he will fire, I don't know what is. Hence Ubougin had enough warning.

Are you serious? The longer someone holds a gun at your face, the less is the shot predictable. Ubogin wasn't able to predict when the shot was comin, could be in 2 seconds, could be in 2 minutes. The fact that he caught the bullet with his teeth afterwards is enough to show that he can react to the speed of sound easily. Let alone, because the bullet was fired from a very close range, it didn't have to face any air pressure which would slow the bullet down.

2. How is catching the bullet between your teeth a feat of speed? It is a feat of durability. You can simply leave your mouth slightly agape so that the bullet would stop between your teeth when the opening becomes too narrow. Naturally a bullet would break teeth, but Ubougin's are tough enough to withstand it (around slightly tougher than concrete, then).

*facepalm* Do you know the difference between Reaction-Time
and Moving Speed? I never indicated once that Ubo can move faster than sound, i said he can REACT to moves at sound speed.

3. Also, easily as fast as sound? Please. A bullet doesn't move faster than sound.

On the contrary, most bullets used travel faster than the speed of sound upon leaving the muzzle.

I'm not assuming anything. I'm putting up facts. Ichigo left after images of himself. Leaving after images would require moving faster than the eye can see.

You're assuming a lot. See above.


Have you read the manga? Byakuya's petals move as fast as Bankai Ichigo, who is extremely fast. Also, as far as failed to kill... it is very difficult to kill someone in Bleach unless you sever the head. Also, Renji and Ganju were both dying.

Lmao. So you're saying that the rose petals move faster than a gun bullet?

You're out of your mind.



And as far as destructive power goes, the stone wall behind Renji was shattered to tiny pieces.

Is that supposed to impress me? Ubougin laughed at a missile explosion which he took head on.

Even if Getsuga Tenshou could injure him, he would dodge because he can react to attacks which are as fast as sound.

Shattering a building > a tiny bullet's power.

Not if that Tiny bullet hits you in the head. Ubo took a sniper bullet to the head and laughed bout it.



And anti-tank missile like what they fired would create a large hole in the wall. Zaraki slashed the building in two.


Point taken. That still doesn't mean it can kill Ubogin who can take bullets to the head, take rocket explosions head on, has a punchin power of a bomb, and makes swords break while lying tied and poisoned on a bed.

Undying
11-12-2007, 05:33 PM
It is a logical fallacy. If a person leaves after images it doesn't necessarily mean that he moves faster than sound.
Signals from nerves to the brain travel at about 400km/h. The distance between the eyes and the brain is minimal, so we might say there is not lag between the eye seeing and the brain translating the signal. And yet the person sees afterimages because the brain sees the person in multiple places since he moves too fast.

Yes, he should be quite faster than sound to be able to do that.

1st. Ever heard of a sonic barrier?

And that has to do with it what?
2nd. Ichigo moves around in circles. Imagine we have a car which drives at 300 mph, which doesn't lose speed when twisting or steering. Also imagine that the physics of the inertia would not apply. There is no way of keeping up with that kind of speed with your eyes only. 300 miles per second still isn't the speed of sound.

300 miles per second? Lawl.

Are you serious? The longer someone holds a gun at your face, the less is the shot predictable. Ubogin wasn't able to predict when the shot was comin, could be in 2 seconds, could be in 2 minutes. The fact that he caught the bullet with his teeth afterwards is enough to show that he can react to the speed of sound easily. Let alone, because the bullet was fired from a very close range, it didn't have to face any air pressure which would slow the bullet down.
I already mentioned that it was not a feat of speed. Also we must take into consideration that Ubougin is always ready to battle - when he's in the middle of a fight. Also, these mob guys weren't in for aiming. They were shooting at him. Obviously he would expect a gunshot in a short time frame from the pointing of the gun.

*facepalm* Do you know the difference between Reaction-Time
and Moving Speed? I never indicated once that Ubo can move faster than sound, i said he can REACT to moves at sound speed.
He cannot react at the speed of sound. Your own manga panels prove it =).