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konakona
01-23-2008, 05:38 PM
Looks cool, prolly have a darker atmosphere then the american based batman cartoons. Lookin forward to it, just so long as Robin doesnt make an apperance...

D:

Graffik
01-23-2008, 06:12 PM
Maybe a cashout^^ But we can bet it'll be damn good, Batman was always intriguing [comics only] but just couldn't put the artwork on par with the story, I'm looking forward to this, hehe, especially now that Batman actually shows blood [pic]

Dope Hat
01-23-2008, 06:43 PM
Interesting, but something inside me is pissed off that American animators cant do the same job. I know Japanese animation is better imo, but this is like America's classic comic. Its shouldnt be shipped overseas to be re-created by the Japanese. Looks like some cashout to appeal to the ever-growing anime crowd.

Yeah.
But there have so many different Batman cartoons - they probably wanted to make something different...

Looks cool, prolly have a darker atmosphere then the american based batman cartoons.

I'm looking forward to this, hehe, especially now that Batman actually shows blood [pic]

Oh yes. ♥

Lookin forward to it, just so long as Robin doesnt make an apperance...

D:

lol! I also don't wanna see him. xD

Kamina
01-23-2008, 07:02 PM
They didnt want to just make something different, its definitely so that the corporate bastards can roll around in more dough. Its obvious, the Spiderman movies were one of the most successful movies in the box office ever, and with all of the other comic remake movies having massive success (including the Batman one), they decided to do this. Anime has been more popular in ever in America, with more and more kids watching by the year. Now Cartoon Network is filled with anime like Naruto, Bleach, Inuyasha, Samurai Champloo, GITS (surprisingly i saw that on the TV guide), etc. Knowing that there is a massive crowd out their for kids who will buy anything anime, this movie is a fantastic idea.

Of course its going to be an excellent movie, but quite frankly this movie is extremely offensive towards America. If you told this marketting ploy to anyone who grew up reading all these comics back in their popular days, they would think the same thing. Its disrespectful to our country to sell out this badly. The Marvel, DC, and Warner Bros. comics were an American pasttime that probably rival that of baseball. Just as long as you know this movie is entirely for making big bucks.

I definitely cant wait till this move comes out, so I can download it. If it isnt anything short of great it would be a compete disapointment. Expect high quality with something that should bring in lots of money.

konakona
01-23-2008, 10:05 PM
Hey, they were doing the "Power Ranger" shit long before we were, so were in no place to talk about whose not allowed to steal crap from whom.

:lol

Kuroudo
01-23-2008, 11:25 PM
For someone who has been here a while, you sure did make a noob post.

Basically, vote for a character and give simple rational logical reasons why he/she beats the other.


The Gray fox has a katana, and is able to make matrix style flips and dodges, he can block bullets with his sword and his skilled in the art of Ninjutsu (no no the naruto kind) he also has a rocket launcher in his left arm. considring that his body armor can only block bullets for a short while.

Auron is slow with his sword but his ability to do limit breaks gives a wide advantage. Tornado is probably a one hit kill for the Gray fox but the gray fox is faster than auron so he might be able to get the hit in. still Auron's Tornado seems like a guranteed kill.

Captain BenZ
01-24-2008, 12:39 AM
Batman + Anime style = badass!

I don't care if this is a sellout, I'm actually psyched about this. :)

Joe Black
01-24-2008, 12:46 AM
"jumping jelly beans Batman!"

I cannot ever comprehend the awesomeness that which is Japanese animation

Kamina
01-24-2008, 03:31 AM
Hey, they were doing the "Power Ranger" shit long before we were, so were in no place to talk about whose not allowed to steal crap from whom.
:lol

Thats different. Thats like saying everyone copied off of the first guy to ever make a silent movie. This is collaboration to create something that will hopefully sell a couple million at the box office.

konakona
01-24-2008, 03:50 AM
Wuh? Hows that different? Thats WORSE in my opinon. They stole the power ranger idea, the outfits, the weapons, the corny fighting style and effects and even the giant robots that REAK with "Japanism" and we didnt even give the Japanese credit. Americans just stole the entire idea because they saw how popular it was over in Japan-land.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a0/Gaorange_vs_super_sentai_poster.jpg/421px-Gaorange_vs_super_sentai_poster.jpg

LOOK AT THAT! Show a 7 year old that picture and ask what it is, hell say Power Rangers, when its actually THE SUPER SENTAI TEAM! Which originally started in 1980 whereas the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers only started airing in 1993!

Here all theyre doing is taking a different spin on things, its not like were SELLING Batman to the Japanese, were just looking at it from a different angle. If all they did was air the same crappy batman cartoons forever, wed all get bored. We need somthing like this to make us think batman is cool again and if that means hiring some anime dudes to make it look more awesome, so be it.

Anyways, off topic...

Graffik
01-24-2008, 04:04 AM
Man that picture even got me, forget about 8 year olds ;D

This maybe considered a 'sell-out' but lets face it, we all want to see it. An classic American plot, mixed with some refreshing artistic style.

American writers can flesh out story like the best of them, but we lack the ability to portray that skill through artistic means. I have to say IMO that there's never been an American cartoon, that could out-do the quality on the comic-book. I.e. The Incredible Hulk, spiderman, superman, etc. Just check the difference in the animation, and the actual comic books.


Anyways, off topic...
^^ No no it's all in the sake of a good arguement. ',=)}

ninjabot
01-24-2008, 05:13 AM
Suppress.

1. to put an end to the activities of (a person, body of persons, etc.):
2. to do away with by or as by authority; abolish; stop (a practice, custom, etc.).

Sasuke looks at Naruto and "puts an end" to the power boost that Naruto is gaining by attempting to manifest tails. He "does away with; abolishes; or stops" the Kyuubi from interfearing with the fight.

He doesn't need to control the Kyuubi. Only stop it long enough for a decisive blow.

Dope Hat
01-24-2008, 12:30 PM
Hey, they were doing the "Power Ranger" shit long before we were, so were in no place to talk about whose not allowed to steal crap from whom.
:lol

Well....you can't all it stealing anyway....
Both companies are working together after all....when DC agrees it can't be stealing.

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deto
01-24-2008, 01:00 PM
Looks cool, prolly have a darker atmosphere then the american based batman cartoons. Lookin forward to it, just so long as Robin doesnt make an apperance...

D:

won't. Chris Nolan (director of batman) said so himself. he claimed that in his batman movies there won't be a robin. so if the story between batman begins and the dark knight should be accurate there won't be a robin and since david s. goyer is in the boat i doubt that someone will even bring up the robin idea

i'm looking forward to this, predicts to be interesting... we shall see.

konakona
01-24-2008, 02:03 PM
won't. Chris Nolan (director of batman) said so himself. he claimed that in his batman movies there won't be a robin.

Thank GOD, I always hated that whiny little twerp... all batman cartoons and movies were 100 times better because Robin wasnt there to fauk things up.

Malice
01-24-2008, 10:05 PM
Suppress.
1. to put an end to the activities of (a person, body of persons, etc.):
2. to do away with by or as by authority; abolish; stop (a practice, custom, etc.).
Sasuke looks at Naruto and "puts an end" to the power boost that Naruto is gaining by attempting to manifest tails. He "does away with; abolishes; or stops" the Kyuubi from interfearing with the fight.
He doesn't need to control the Kyuubi. Only stop it long enough for a decisive blow.
That would work if Naruto looked into his eyes. Naruto got caught once but he wouldn't be stupid enough to fall for it again. Thus Naruto could use kyuubi and beat the crap out of the others with an unmatched speed and strength. (look what he's doing to Orochimaru in the anime atm.)

Seff vi Britannia
01-24-2008, 10:18 PM
Thanks ninja, if i want to look in a dictionary, i'll go upstairs to the library.

Kyuubi, unreleased, in Naruto's head, with no chakra leaking out =/= Tailed Naruto.

Jay3205
01-24-2008, 10:20 PM
As long as Naruto even looks towards Sasuke, he'll be vulnerable to supression. He doesn't need to stare straight into his eyes... otherwise, there would be no need for Guy to develop a style that works by looking only at the opponent's feet. Naruto isn't skilled enough to even hope to do that.

Also, Naruto can't just magically unleash all 4 tails just because he wants to unleash it. He needs to get beaten up pretty badly to reach that point. Given the calibur of his opponent, he would be caught in genjutsu or killed long before reaching that point. He would've gotten killed the first time when Sasuke supressed him, and there's nothing stopping it from happening again.

Also, tailed Kyuubi =/= released Kyuubi. Until Kyuubi actually becomes separate from Naruto, he's always going to be "in his head". The only thing that varies is the amount of control he can exert.

Zanga
01-25-2008, 01:03 AM
Archer vs Inuyasha... battle start... Archer start to summon his weapons.... Inuyasha with his superior speed make a move and use Iron Reaver Soul Stealer... Archer is dead.... Inuyasha win...

Inuyasha is going ot have trouble against an opponent that is fast an a highway car.

Zanga
01-25-2008, 01:12 AM
Yeah true. But you know , he used his intellect to deduce thus. On the contrary Light , was being lucky and/or received help from Shinigamies.
I dont disagree that Light is very clever , intelligent brilliant or whatever. Its just that his nowhere near L.
@Kay , I know that Light didnt ask Ryuk to help him , but Ryuk did. If he hadnt helped him he wouldnt have known about the detectives. He would have failed from the very start.
Pssh , clever dude , I know that if there wasnt the DN there wouldnt be a story. But , please dont compare a guy who has unnatural help e.t.c with a normal human.
:whatevah:


Ryuk telling Light about Penber following him is the same as L using Naomi's suspects before she died. Besides, Light would've noticed sooner or later, its natural human instinct. Without the outside help, both would've gotten no where.

And I do not agree at all that the gap between L and Light is large. They might be on even grounds or the difference in their intelligence can be very small.

Remember, after Light 'gave up' the Death note L put him through a series of tests basing his assumption of Light being Kira off his answers, but Light saw through everything. Example...

L asked Light that if he would take over the name as 'L' if the real L were to die.

If Light said yes, that means he is Kira, but Light saw through this perfectly and explained it to the last detail.

L even admitted that Light's ability was amazing since it was Light himself who discovered deaths that were beneficial to Yotsuba where L had missed it.

Alex26
01-25-2008, 02:19 AM
well, gotta admit that the weapon being the DN was a big advantage for Light, I mean... come on, a book that kills and can control people's deaths? L was smart enough to get that close to Light despite the weapon being so... unlikely

Anyway, i like drama, so i say Light should've won, plus it was Mikami's fault that he got caught >_<

Ryuk kinda won, i mean, he lost nothing but gained entertainment and a few more years, not bad xp

Prince Noctis
01-25-2008, 04:22 AM
Thus Naruto could use kyuubi and beat the crap out of the others with an unmatched speed and strength. (look what he's doing to Orochimaru in the anime atm.)


Malice, stop using references from the Anime.

Sasuke vs. Naruto vs. Sakura. An all out free-for-all battle with the current manga versions of each character, similar to the Orochimaru, Tsunade and Jiraiya thread awhile back.
So who wins?

Naruto (4 tails and all) struggled to hurt Orochimaru, Sasuke (CS at first) further injured Orochimaru, then at his normal state, killed Orochimaru.

Joe Black
01-25-2008, 04:57 AM
The battle contains two characters destined to fight, simply because both of their names have the word "Falcon" in it. XP

and to me, they are seemingly matched in power,
[ignoring the overpowered Ultimate Falcon Punch, which can cause an explosion so large, it can be visable outside a galaxy. don't use this as a 'win' arguement.]

Edward Falcon [Power Stone]

or

Captain Falcon [F-Zero and other representations]

Zanga
01-25-2008, 05:23 AM
Captain Falcon has this. He attacks way to fast and delivers heavy power with each attack.


Edward is strong, but can not defeat Cpt. with his fist missiles. Well his final form(withthe white power stone) might be able to put up a destructive fight.

Zanga
01-25-2008, 05:49 AM
Yeah but Orochimaru was already half-dead anyhow =/

KholdStare
01-25-2008, 06:09 AM
Kyuubi, unreleased, in Naruto's head, with no chakra leaking out =/= Tailed Naruto.

Exactly. Naruto has yet to enter a fight yet from which at the beginning he is already in his tailed form. The only reason Orochimaru even let him go into tailed form was because he was curious as to what kind of power he possesses. I highly doubt Sasuke would let Naruto even move onto the tailed form and let him become stronger.

What we are trying to say is that Sasuke could stop the Kyuubi chakra from even leaking in the first place, thus preventing any tails from forming. We never said that Sasuke could stop a tailed Naruto.

Naruto (4 tails and all) struggled to hurt Orochimaru, Sasuke (CS at first) further injured Orochimaru, then at his normal state, killed Orochimaru.

Had the fight continued, 4 tailed Naruto could have probably killed Orochimaru. Orochimaru's strongest weapon, his Kunsanagi sword could not even pierce Naruto.

ninjabot
01-25-2008, 06:38 AM
Final Fantasy characters are usually auto winners of whatever anime arena fights they're in because of magic and whatnot, but since Auron isn't spell kinda character, I'll stay away from that...if not he could simply stop time with Stop magic or regenerate with Regen.

That said, Gray Fox survived being stepped on by friggin' Metal Gear Rex. A several ton heavy mech. If I remember correctly, he held up his foot for about a second. THAT'S a feat. What's to say he doesn't simply cut through Auron's sword mid-duel? Yeah, I'm with you guys. Gray Fox's got this.

deto
01-25-2008, 06:53 AM
For someone who has been here a while, you sure did make a noob post.

no need to get all offensive, if you read between the lines it says this:

Frank Hunter was used in the perfect soldier program after he got injured in battle. he has a high frequency blade that can cut thru virtually anything, his speed is far from anything that a normal human being could bring up plus he can make himself invisible. He is widely refered as "The Perfect Soldier"

oh and he is actually reflecting bullets, not blocking. savvy?

Malice
01-25-2008, 09:41 AM
Gray Fox(Frank Jaeger) from MGS1 v.s. Auron from FFX.
Who would win?
Usually Auron would win a match he's thrown into, but against Grey Fox who is equipped with genome science, therm optic camouflage and superhuman powers. Auron could not win.

Silhouette
01-25-2008, 03:05 PM
From what I've seen of the guy, Auron will have a hard time hitting him, let alone getting a killing blow on him. >: /

I hate how all of my favorite characters are being thrown into one-sided battles. I'm gonna havta start smacking bitches in this section, I see. =_="

Kuroudo
01-25-2008, 08:56 PM
no need to get all offensive, if you read between the lines it says this:

Frank Hunter was used in the perfect soldier program after he got injured in battle. he has a high frequency blade that can cut thru virtually anything, his speed is far from anything that a normal human being could bring up plus he can make himself invisible. He is widely refered as "The Perfect Soldier"

oh and he is actually reflecting bullets, not blocking. savvy?

yea, but even though you need to post some reason behind it even if the ansewer is obvious or not.

considring i remember seeing him run at a giant tank thingy and it was shooting at him and his armor was starting to peel off it cannot withstand it for long, but then he took out a rocket launcher and blow the damn thing up.

He got stomped by a giant tank/mech/Weapon of Mass Destruction thingy and survived is impressive that vs Auron getting owned by yunalesca then crawling from zanarkand-Bevelle then died, thats pretty damn crazy. But aurons blade being cut apart idk how to defend aganist that unless hes using masamune or something and the blade has some kind of magic enchantment so it dosent break. in a battle of speed gray fox would win Auron is just to slow with his heavy ass sword. and since the gray fox has superhuman abilties one or two slashes by Aurons sword wouldnt kill him.

Now whos a better swordsman idk Auron was a warrior monk and had several years of training to become the ultimate guardian and the Gray fox was in the "Perfect Soldier" Project so its a safe bet hes mastered his chokuto. his high frequency blade its true what you say cutting though anything. maybe auron can just shooting star out him out of battle, but the question is can he survive being thrown into the air then burned for about 20 seconds entirely?

Silhouette
01-26-2008, 12:12 AM
Shooting Star would never hit. The slash itself is quite fast, but there's too much of an opening between Auron reaching GF, and swinging his sword. >: /

Auron isn't a mage by nature either, so he's got no magic. His Break techniques, well, we don't know how that would translate into an actual battle.

The only way he could hit GF (other than GF slipping up somehow), is with his first Overdrive, Dragon Fang. Auron leaps into the air, stabbing his katana into the ground. Then several explosions engulf his target(s).

It looks pretty instant to me, and the explosions seemingly come from thin air. It would probably hit GF, but from what you're all telling me... it wouldn't do that much. The explosions seem rather small, even if they're fast and probably sure hits.

Its also just one blast per target, I believe. Though, if he can hit every target on screen with one use, then I'm sure he could hit one target several times.

Whatever though. I'm a hardcore Auron fan, but he can't win this fight with just Dragon Fang alone. -_-"

[edit]

On a side note: Crawling across a monster-infested continent with a fatal wound (from the most powerful Summoner in existance) > anything anyone has ever done in the history of everything.

FullMetal Rebel
01-26-2008, 12:42 AM
From what I've seen of the guy, Auron will have a hard time hitting him, let alone getting a killing blow on him. >: /
I hate how all of my favorite characters are being thrown into one-sided battles. I'm gonna havta start smacking bitches in this section, I see. =_="


Damn>.<

I thought it would be a fair fight since he is an FF character. People will argue for those guys no matter what.

I guess its settled Fox wins.

SaberBlade
01-26-2008, 01:15 PM
I'm glad that Production I.G, Madhouse and Studio 4°C are animating it (hopefully in that order). I will admit i've not seen much of Studio 4°C but I have liked what I have seen. I would rather the producers go to Japan and get well known companies rather than cheaping out and designing their own anime based characters while overseeing korean animators. I have never been impressed with US anime style so Bruce Timm with David Goyer, DCAU writers and comic writers plus the Japanese production studios, this only gets better and better.

_Ink
01-26-2008, 03:31 PM
I demand they animate Nightwing (AKA Robin all grown up and dons a full suited tight that mangles his balls) with Batman.
But if this is between begins and dark knight, he won't play a part.
I would gladly have a different character other than the usual Joker/Penguin/Twoface etc etc.

VinScythe
01-26-2008, 03:37 PM
Especially seeing how Satoshi Kon is directing his own segment, with his team. And that guy doesn't know what screwing up means, we'll see the Joker shooting a hooker, or Batman pumped with his newly developed Bat-roids. Also the actual detective portion of the Batman makes a return with Bruce Timm rising out of his bed and rolling some blunts for this(something Noland has completely overlooked). Christian Bale has even been set to VA the Bat.

This is the animated movie of the year, well unless Wall-E decides to bring out the sledge. But America and Japan actually uniting in their works only holds a bright light for the animation future.
Anime has been more popular in ever in America, with more and more kids watching by the year. Now Cartoon Network is filled with anime like Naruto, Bleach, Inuyasha, Samurai Champloo, GITS (surprisingly i saw that on the TV guide), etc. Knowing that there is a massive crowd out their for kids who will buy anything anime, this movie is a fantastic idea.
Cartoon Network isn't 'full' of anime. Their Toonami block has been sliced into 2 hours, one day a week. Naruto, One Piece, DBZ, Pokemon, Yugioh GX is all the anime the network plays now. And their jetstream will be pretty bad when you realize MAR is the only show that's going to continue a premiere every week.

And to the AS shows, those have all been their for years now. And yet no blockbusters made their way in 2007, none so captivating that you would remember their names at least.

Finally the actual selling of the anime market in America, sales have gone down from 2006 to 2007. That's perfectly rich! This movie isn't being made to cash in on the popularity, for sure they wouldn't have spent the millions for Satoshi Kon and his brilliant story boards and studios if they simply wanted to milk the Batman's frisk titties.

Of course its going to be an excellent movie, but quite frankly this movie is extremely offensive towards America. If you told this marketting ploy to anyone who grew up reading all these comics back in their popular days, they would think the same thing. Its disrespectful to our country to sell out this badly. The Marvel, DC, and Warner Bros. comics were an American pasttime that probably rival that of baseball. Just as long as you know this movie is entirely for making big bucks.
I definitely cant wait till this move comes out, so I can download it. If it isnt anything short of great it would be a compete disapointment. Expect high quality with something that should bring in lots of money.
If anything, having some of the most popular animation studios in the world to depict their fashion of the world's finest detective made into the next Animatrix, is nothing short of an honor for DC fans.

If the DC fandom really wants to be that kind of *****, they for sure know at least that for this one Batman animation, they'll be getting TWO MOVIES: Justice League: The New Frontier, and Teen Titans: The Judas Contract.
won't. Chris Nolan (director of batman) said so himself. he claimed that in his batman movies there won't be a robin. so if the story between batman begins and the dark knight should be accurate there won't be a robin and since david s. goyer is in the boat i doubt that someone will even bring up the robin idea
Christ Noland has nothing to do with this movie. Of course, that was even noted in the first post.

If he does influence it, it'll be the same petulant horseshit as he did to The Batman series, and probably ban The Scarecrow, Two Face, Ras Al Ghul, and maybe even the Joker, from Satoshi Kon and friend's infinitely perverse potential to bring out their insanity.

Kuroudo
01-26-2008, 05:56 PM
Sux for auron if the Fox won IMO; hes a wayyy awesomer character than anyone and like Sillouete said: On a side note: Crawling across a monster-infested continent with a fatal wound (from the most powerful Summoner in existance) > anything anyone has ever done in the history of everything.
So if what if you had someone with magic from FF series fight fox.

Chokuto: His blade his like a lightsaber cuts though anything i dont remember well but how did umm whats his name..oh yeah snake defeat him again?

FF Blades: Idk if this works for all final fantasy's i just remember that in FF7 Cutscenes/Advent Children their blades pretty much cut though anything as well except another blade so wouldnt that work for Auron but yet this has not been seen outside of FF7 just a guess.

sniperz
01-26-2008, 06:11 PM
i vote archer coz of his UBW << a very ultimate release of swords..

ninjabot
01-26-2008, 11:10 PM
Well, the reason Cloud's sword could cut through anything is because he's Cloud. Sephiroth>>Cloud>Auron times 100.

*glances at Silhouette*

Yeah, I'd say this one's over with.

Kuroudo
01-26-2008, 11:27 PM
wait what?

Cloud beat in sephiroth FF7 and Advent Children.

Malice
01-27-2008, 12:14 AM
His blade his like a lightsaber cuts though anything i dont remember well but how did umm whats his name..oh yeah snake defeat him again?

There's at least 2 ways to beat Grey Fox in MGS. 1 fight him in close quarters and try your luck. 2 throw a chaff grenade as it messes up G.F's cybernetics and temporarily immobilizes him allowing you to pummel into him safely.

Considering you see cut marks in iron slab walls near the place snake fights him in MGS. It's wise to say that G.F's sword is considerably tough.

Lelouch
01-27-2008, 12:40 AM
L even admitted that Light's ability was amazing since it was Light himself who discovered deaths that were beneficial to Yotsuba where L had missed it.

Quote:

Light : Ryuuzaki , come here I think I found something
* L gets closer , and looks at Lights pc *
Light: Looks this must be it. Every death is possitive for Yotsuba. Kira must be one of them blablabla
L: blablablabla.

Yeah true , if this is what you meant in your post. But , L stated :

Quote number 2:

*L has a bored expression*
Light:Ryuuzaki blablabla help me blablabla
L: Sorry , I dont feel motivated at all..
Light: Why?
L: Because my theory of you being Kira proved to be wrong.
( They start to fight ).

What I want to tell you with this , is that L wasnt really trying to investigate about Kira in the Yotsuba Arc. Besides , if I remember well , Yotsuba was just a filler..gg.

deto
01-27-2008, 12:55 AM
i dont remember well but how did umm whats his name..oh yeah snake defeat him again?

in the first metal gear, snake and grey fox had a fist fight in zanzibar. back in that time, gray fox was still a regular soldier. snake eventually beat him on a mine field and gray fox had serious injuries hence he got used for the perfect soldiers project. (thus becoming the cyborg ninja)

when snake meets gray fox again on shadow moses, gray requests a fist fight, a hand to hand combat without tricks or super strength. cuz if gray would have used everything he had, snake would never have won. maybe some remember how the hallway looked like when gray walked thru. severed guards and cut off limbs all over, so if snake won it wouldn't mean much cuz gray never used his whole array of abilities he has.

Kuroudo
01-27-2008, 03:43 AM
They always do something so the main character always wins.

Gettles
01-27-2008, 09:14 AM
i vote archer coz of his UBW << a very ultimate release of swords..

Its not really an ultimate release of swords. Its more of a neutered version of Gillgamesh's Gate of Babylon. Its still very good though.

Cain La Croix
01-27-2008, 08:52 PM
well I might as well give my opinion. Well I personally think Grimmjow will win. Although Sesshomaru is very powerful and recently obtained the Bakusaiga in the manga, Sesshomaru can put up a good fight and could probably harm Grimmjow quite a bit in his unreleased state but once Grimmjow releases his main advantage is his speed. Which in my opinion, one of the only reasons why Ichigo beat Grimmjow was that his Vizard Form could match Grimmjow's speed if not faster. But Grimmjow will be too fast for Sesshomaru to handle, but it would definitely be a good fight.

smach
01-27-2008, 09:51 PM
Super strength
Sesshomaru possesses physical strength far beyond that of a normal demon; he was able to easily lift InuYasha by the throat into the air with one hand in one of their earlier encounters. In addition, Sesshomaru was seen carrying the boulder-sized demon head of Goshinki in one hand with little to no effort.[18] In the InuYasha profiles manga, Rumiko stated that Sesshomaru has Herculean strength, even with only one arm; his strength with only one arm is equal to InuYasha's full strength. InuYasha's strength allows him to lift a 9 to 10 ton boulder using one arm with little effort, so Sesshomaru would naturally be capable of lifting double that with the same amount of effort.[13]n that's gonna help him how when grimjow:
- shoots ceros [ch280 ch280 p16-17] (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/280/16-17/)
- beats him through buildings [ch281 p13-16] (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/281/13/)
- uses his stakes [ch283 p02] (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/283/02/)

Super speed
Sesshomaru can move faster than the eye can see, both on land and through the air.[13] When he does this in the anime, he leaves behind afterimages.[17] He can also instantaneously close long distances without being detected by others.newsflash: shunpo, sonido, n hirenkyaku became a bleach standard even before ichigo's crew got into HM. and unlike bleach characters, there's never been a part in the manga/anime where we've seen sesshomaru use his speed consecutively, let alone displaying an amazing feat that could compare to bleach characters today.

Sesshomaru is faster then bankai Ichigo plus greater combat experience.... he poses great amount of yōkai and enormously physical strength... his body is stronger, his regeneration is almoust like Cell in dbz (you can see that later in manga)

Grimmjaw hasn't even 1% to win....gimme some manga chapters that comply with this BS. in all 538 chapters that i've covered, i can't recall seeing this OMGWTFBBQ regeneration that u speak of. as for the physical/body strength, "***** please, u must have a mental disease...assume the position, n get back down on yo knees."

Sesshomaru's power can destroy one small town... and your bleach's charterswhen was this...when he had a youkai hand as a replacement? also, manga scan please.

Taro Souta
01-27-2008, 11:33 PM
I havent heard anyone say this yet I don't think but I like L better because I believe he is doing the right thing. I usually don't mind rooting for the "bad guys" they are usually my favorite characters in anime and manga (Vegeta, Hakudoushi, Naraku etc.) but Light's approach doesn't appeal to me. Besides look at how he got his father killed and his sister in a wheel chair that doesn't do anything but make you WANT to root for L, Mello, and Near to all catch him at some point.

Taro Souta
01-27-2008, 11:44 PM
I think we could all take a lesson from Light's inability to not allow himself to be corrupted by the Note. Look what happened to him in the end for instance-he really popped a cork. So to say. Now if I found a Death Note I would like to think I wouldnt use it but i can't trust myself with %100 certainty that I wouldn't. It just to easy to use.

Taro Souta
01-27-2008, 11:46 PM
The show has taught me to never support anybody with that kind of power. Down with Kira!

Icestorm
01-28-2008, 01:56 AM
If anyone brings up the whole Light had unnatural items.. L had unnatural resources.. he was a mega millionnaire.. that isnt a big advantage?

Gojira
01-28-2008, 03:33 AM
There was once a primeval race who called itself the "Golden Tribe". It possessed many powers, including the ability to create planets and see into the future. They then called on primitive beings far across the galaxy and told them to explore the universe. Three races were able to reply to their call and the Golden Tribe referred to those as the "Silver Tribe," the "Bronze Tribe," and the "Hero Tribe." Long after, just as the Golden Tribe was about to move on to another universe, a new race replied to their call. The newcomer, Humankind, was referred to as the "Iron Tribe."

After the Golden Tribe, left to explore other reaches of space, the human race became threatened with extinction. Since the Golden Tribe left, the Silver Tribe has long since been the most dominant race, calling themselves the Golden Tribe's successors. The young princess of the Iron Tribe, Dhianeila, searches for the one mentioned in her family's history; the messianic individual that holds the power to save her people. This person she looks for is the only human to have been raised by the Golden Tribe before they departed from the universe. After her ship and crew reaches the ruined planet, Oron, which holds the one she is looking for, they are attacked by the Bronze Tribe. However, right before the attack, they come in contact with a young boy named "Age", who may hold the secrets to their salvation.


Pretty Decent show so far. I've only just started watching it. Was wondering if anyone else has seen it. Any opinions?

Graffik
01-28-2008, 04:25 AM
Well, I've started watching this quite a while back, and stopped at around episode 6. It isn't cause it is bad or anything, I sort of forgot about it.. :p

Though it does have some pretty decent plot, I find it amusing to see the somewhat utopian structure the main characters seem to live in. If you already watched it you get what I mean, with that princess, and the 'purity' thing. Well this was interesting enough to watch, so I do sort of recommend it, now if only I had the time to finish it...

Gojira
01-28-2008, 05:45 AM
Yeah, I'm not really into Mecha Anime but this one feels a little bit more Organic so Ir eally don't mind it as much... The Mecha that Age turns into reminds me of a "Cyclopean Shark" of sorts. I like the whole fledgling Human Utopia and yeah... I can see what your talking about regarding the Princess... Anyways, from what I've seen so far it seems pretty decent and the animation is pretty good as well...

Seems like it has the potential to have an "epic" type storyline.

Graffik
01-28-2008, 02:57 PM
Qt

The series already finished airing though, quite a while back actually, so I doubt many people are aware of this anime. In my opinion it isn't something that breaks the norm, so to speak, but it is enough to keep me interested. Anyways, do you have any links to torrents or DDL's?

Kamina
01-28-2008, 07:07 PM
I figured I would make a thread to discuss fantasy anime.

To start it off, I have a question. I have started to watch .Hack//Sign, and I love it's fantasy elements. Its a bit slow paced, but enjoyable nontheless. I was also out searching for other fantasy anime to watch, and was wondering which you guys recomend. So far I have found:

El Hazard - The Magnificent World
Rune Soldier
s-CRY-ed
Gokudo
Otogizoushi
Record of Lodoss War
Tales of Symphonia
Slayers

Out of those (or others if you know of them), which would you recommend I watch? I havent seen any good ole fashion geeky fantasy and I kind of want to see what its all about.

James Cizuz
01-28-2008, 07:21 PM
FALLLLLLLCONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN PUUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNCHHHHHHHHHH

Nuff said.

DarkSlayer
01-28-2008, 07:40 PM
I figured I would make a thread to discuss fantasy anime.
To start it off, I have a question. I have started to watch .Hack//Sign, and I love it's fantasy elements. Its a bit slow paced, but enjoyable nontheless. I was also out searching for other fantasy anime to watch, and was wondering which you guys recomend. So far I have found:
El Hazard - The Magnificent World
Rune Soldier
s-CRY-ed
Gokudo
Otogizoushi
Record of Lodoss War
Tales of Symphonia
Slayers
Out of those (or others if you know of them), which would you recommend I watch? I havent seen any good ole fashion geeky fantasy and I kind of want to see what its all about.
Out of your list there I've only seen Record of Lodoss War and it was pretty good.

Tales of Symphonia sounds like it would be good, too.

teslatroNN
01-28-2008, 07:45 PM
If you ask me, everything after L's death was just one huge plotkai (Because the 'good side' has to win no matter what :\). Light made so many miscalculations and mistakes at the end its not even funny, its like he was a totally different person all together.

As for the poll, I think Ryuk should've won and he did win.

Gojira
01-28-2008, 08:57 PM
I download via torrents... Its not a very popular show but I have found them on normal torrent sites. I go to http://scrapetorrent.com. Its sorta like a google by checking all the major torrent sites and basically a compiles a list according to number of seeders.

Or I just found this from shinsen-subs.org... http://bt.shinsen-subs.org/.

There aren't very many seeders.

UchihaNikita
01-28-2008, 11:20 PM
I'm just here to break up the action.
*random wind blows*
Um....Hello everyone! ^_^

UchihaNikita
01-28-2008, 11:40 PM
I'd prefer light.
It's shorter and easier to remember :)

Alerane
01-29-2008, 12:13 AM
I think Raito since that's how I read it online when I read the manga

deathangel20
01-29-2008, 01:13 AM
Spice and Wolf is set in a medieval setting if that is what you consider fantasy. Its pretty good, but since its new, not that many eps out. Scrapped Princess is pretty good, if you can bare some of its mecha elements.

teslatroNN
01-29-2008, 01:55 AM
http://www.forumammo.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10063/normal_demotivational-posters-falcon-punch.jpg

Kamina
01-29-2008, 02:11 AM
I have picked up on Spice and Wolf, in which I think it is the best Winter 08 anime out so far.

I watched Scrapped Princess a while back, but I got bored with it after a few episodes. It rated really well, but it just didnt grab my attention.

Joe Black
01-29-2008, 06:00 AM
In my opinion, Edward would have a fair chance against Captian. for example, Edward took on Power Stone form Valgas in an untransformed state, and still stalled for a good amount of time.

also, with the Red Power Stone transormation, Edward has flight. Now if I understand Captain correctly, he knows how to jump high, but not fly. As well, Edward has Power Explosion and Power Hurricane in addition with his Power Missiles, area of effect attacks that Captain Falcon couldn't easily defend from.

as for general fighting skill, Edward has faced many fast opponents [including Valgas], and still managed to do alright. perhaps I misinterpret Captain's overall speed in the matter.
as for White Power Stone, it was primarily used as a plot power up, but I suppose it could make things moar interesting.

[if this is going to get spammy liek the two posts above, this thread will close.]

James Cizuz
01-29-2008, 06:52 AM
In my opinion, Edward would have a fair chance against Captian. for example, Edward took on Power Stone form Valgas in an untransformed state, and still stalled for a good amount of time.
also, with the Red Power Stone transormation, Edward has flight. Now if I understand Captain correctly, he knows how to jump high, but not fly. As well, Edward has Power Explosion and Power Hurricane in addition with his Power Missiles, area of effect attacks that Captain Falcon couldn't easily defend from.
as for general fighting skill, Edward has faced many fast opponents [including Valgas], and still managed to do alright. perhaps I misinterpret Captain's overall speed in the matter.
as for White Power Stone, it was primarily used as a plot power up, but I suppose it could make things moar interesting.
[if this is going to get spammy liek the two posts above, this thread will close.]

Doesn't matter what logic you use. He wouldn't stand against FALLLLCONNNNN KICKKKKKK let alone FALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLCOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN PUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNCHHHHHHHHHHHH.

It's common sense man, even goku died from it. He'd just say "show me your moves" and Edward would piss himself and have a miscarriage.

Shinomori
01-29-2008, 09:05 AM
Um.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw

I'm pretty sure when you can make an explosion that is as tall as a galaxy is wide, you can win a fight.

FALCONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

PUNNNNNNNNNNNNNCH!

Dokuro
01-29-2008, 04:50 PM
Light:I dont want to use deathnote anymore. I will give my deathnote to L.

Dokuro
01-29-2008, 04:53 PM
Raito is his realname not Light. But All the fansub wrote 'Light' Because 'Raito' means light in English.

Zanga
01-30-2008, 01:59 AM
Quote:
Light : Ryuuzaki , come here I think I found something
* L gets closer , and looks at Lights pc *
Light: Looks this must be it. Every death is possitive for Yotsuba. Kira must be one of them blablabla
L: blablablabla.
Yeah true , if this is what you meant in your post. But , L stated :
Quote number 2:
*L has a bored expression*
Light:Ryuuzaki blablabla help me blablabla
L: Sorry , I dont feel motivated at all..
Light: Why?
L: Because my theory of you being Kira proved to be wrong.
( They start to fight ).
What I want to tell you with this , is that L wasnt really trying to investigate about Kira in the Yotsuba Arc. Besides , if I remember well , Yotsuba was just a filler..gg.

GG to you, because you fail at reading manga. Yotsuba was a filler? Actually read the manga plz >.>

well, gotta admit that the weapon being the DN was a big advantage for Light, I mean... come on, a book that kills and can control people's deaths? L was smart enough to get that close to Light despite the weapon being so... unlikely

Anyway, i like drama, so i say Light should've won, plus it was Mikami's fault that he got caught >_<

Ryuk kinda won, i mean, he lost nothing but gained entertainment and a few more years, not bad xp

So what if the book had supernatural powers. It's not like L figured out how the death note had such immense power. The death note being super natural, had two basic rules. You need a name and a face, which is somethign that anyone with L's mind would figure out easily.

Light used his death note to it's fullest extent, that and Misa's a moron.

Darth Revan
01-30-2008, 02:27 AM
yeahhhhh i voted now everyone die *force lightning* i really dont know who is the best

Starlight
01-30-2008, 04:58 PM
Zaraki can deal the damage and take even more. Kenshin can deal damage as Battousai, but his defense isn't as high. Also, if he starts off normal Zaraki would kill him just for even using a sakabato against him. Kenpachi wins this one.

Joe Black
01-30-2008, 06:00 PM
I'm pretty sure when you can make an explosion that is as tall as a galaxy is wide, you can win a fight.



[ignoring the overpowered Ultimate Falcon Punch, which can cause an explosion so large, it can be visable outside a galaxy. don't use this as a 'win' arguement.]


*sigh*

this thread can close now. [although i am now humored by a fusion of Edward Falcon and Captain Falcon... Captain Edward Falcon. XD]

FALCONNNNNNNN PAAAAAAAAUNCH.

Kamina
01-30-2008, 08:01 PM
Nobody watches any fantasy anime? Kinda hard to believe when Bleach is a bit fantasy already.

Bump.

The_Supervisor
01-30-2008, 08:15 PM
Only seen Tales out of the ones u listed, which I'd definitely recommend if u've played the game. If not ur better off with something else imo~

Zanga
01-30-2008, 11:36 PM
Eh there's real no point in arguing against a child who's in love with an anime character and refuses to believe his dearest will lose.


Grimmjaw will rip Sesshomaru limb from limb. Besides, Sesshomaru has shown to transform into his dog form when he gets mad, which makes his even slower(even Inuyasha was able to catch him and rip his arm off, who ever hit by poison and badly injured before the transformation), so Grimmjaw will just have to rip his giant limbs off.

Bankai_Zangetsu
01-30-2008, 11:48 PM
what makes you thik that grimmjow cant take out sesshoumarus soul ? yammy just sucked in air and took out a whole crowd of living people. ceros still create explosions which im sure are fatal to any living creature including demon.

Tai Dai
01-31-2008, 12:37 AM
:Haha :Haha :Haha

Sesshomaru's power can destroy one small town... and your bleach's charters few buildings xD

about after image... that can be about dissimilarity in animation in animes....

.... I was wrong.... Grimmjaw doesn't have even 0,00001% to win :babies:

Just let it go, we all know you really like Sesshomaru but there is absolutely no way he can beat grimmjow. The bleach characters don't target the buildings, they target the ENEMY, the buildings are just collateral damage (its insignificant).

I can take it that any higher espada can take down grimmjow, thats just the way it is.

Silhouette
01-31-2008, 03:05 AM
Pantera is a better animal then some stupid, ugly weak little mongrel like Sesshomaru and has shown to be weaker than freaking Konohamaru.

I just had to comment on this, so excuse the spam and all. Its not like I'm the only spammer here anyway..

But seriously. Wtf?

Cassie
01-31-2008, 04:56 AM
I haven't seen any "honest to god" fantasy series. From what I've heard/read, Crest of the Stars and its sequels is a great fantasy series. Then there's 12 kingdoms, although that's not what one would consider geeky fantasy.

Kamina
01-31-2008, 12:16 PM
Well, its not like I NEED to watch something really geeky, its just that I dont really want people recommending stuff like Bleach, Naruto, and FMA and calling it fantasy.

I would consider things like Berserk or the 12 Kingdoms to be pretty fantasy if you ask me. If there were more anime like those, I would love to find them.

momoxtoshiro
01-31-2008, 12:33 PM
I think Ichigo would win. Inuyasha does have impressive attacks AND can somehow survive while having his stomach stabbed, but Ichigo would just be more powerful. Especially with that Hollow side of him!

btw thx for doing this battle. I've always wondered myself who would win cause they both have willpower and giant swords and awsome attacks. But it seems that the majority vote is against InuYasha. Oh well maybe he'll win something else.

Anyways, Yay Ichigo!!!

Silhouette
01-31-2008, 12:48 PM
No shot. InuYasha characters are seriously underestimated on this forum. Same for Yu Yu Hakusho, and I'm sad - and shocked - to say, DB/Z/GT.

Can this thread and match finally die now? >: /

Mugen
01-31-2008, 03:12 PM
Not Necessarily...In the manga Inuyasha can go into a purified yokai form if he has a purified jewel shard at the time he turns Yokai or during yokai. And With this it allows Inuyasha to keep his Sanity AND Use the Tessaiga while in Yokai form Allowing his speed and strength to increase exponentially once again and it allows him to use his ultimate technique, The Adamant Barrage alot more effectively than before. I personally think it would be a great fight to see.

God...I agree SO MANY other characters aren't given a fair fight just because since other people know that Bleach characters abilities they somehow completely outmatch the other characters without any analyzation of the other character. It's a real shame actually.

Kuroudo
01-31-2008, 05:47 PM
Sure inuyasha characters are undestimated but thats because every other manga/anime is so much stronger than them. though Inuyasha + Pure Yokai form is yokai + tessaiga + strength and speed its still no match for what Ichigo can do to him. Shunpo is probably the main factor why inuyasha cant take out ichigo. Not to say that if Ichigo got hit with Adamant Barrage he would get hurt.


btw: Pure Yokai form = Vaizard Form for ichigo. same damn thing basically.

Silhouette
01-31-2008, 05:57 PM
Wrong. See, you're still underestimating Inuyasha. Yeah, Ichigo wins, but it won't be a 1-hit KO. And also, you need to understand that Inuyasha is NEVER put up against someone he can actually fight.

People need to start using common sense when making these fights. Seriously, read up on the characters. Put Inuyasha against a demon, and they're dead. End of story.

The fact is, Bleach characters are overestimated also. But whatever. Can a mod lock this thread and sticky it or something? I swear if someone makes this thread again, or revives one of the older ones... I'm coming to their house with a hammer. >: /

Zanga
01-31-2008, 06:15 PM
Just trying to get on his nerves.

I bet I did. Might've gone a tad too far though hmm.

Kuroudo
01-31-2008, 09:34 PM
Go pm them then.

Kamina
02-01-2008, 04:23 AM
I dont mean to make a similar thread to the one I created of fantasy anime (obviously nobody cares :) ), but I have just been watching a really good anime called Yami no Matsuei (or Descendants of Darkness). Watching this anime really got me thinking, what other good supernatural anime are there, and which are everyones favorite?

Other than Bleach (cause of the fanboi bias), which supernatural anime do you like and which are your favorites?

I figure that there will be more discussion about this than fantasy, considering that Bleach leans towards supernatural, and how cool is Hellsing (OVA) ? Everybody loves death gods and vampires, no?

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ultimate
02-01-2008, 12:00 PM
Yeah the Hellsing Ultimate OVA is pretty cool, too bad it takes so long for each OVA to come out. I have also seen Trinity Blood, it feels like a mix of Hellsing and Trigun. Its about vampires and the Vatican and stuff and set in the future. Its not that great but has nice animation and some good fight scenes.

Theres also Tokyo Majin season 1 which is about high school kids fighting monsters/zombies/ghosts etc. Season 2 I think never got finished subbing. From what I have watched of season 1, it isnt too bad. The fighting scenes are pretty cool.

Another one is Black Blood Brothers which is about vampires too, never got around to finish watching that though.

To be honest I havent seen much supernatural anime since I could never find one that I could keep me watching. The only ones I have seen or currently watching are Bleach, Trinity Blood, Tokyo Majin Season 1 and Hellsing Ultimate so if somebody could recommend me some similar to those I have watched, that would be cool.

Princess Gheyfu
02-02-2008, 04:49 AM
Lol?

M_Ghey
02-02-2008, 07:59 AM
Well, there's boogiepop phantom, if you like creepy anime. There is also fate/stay night, though that's kinda mediocre IMO. Hellsing OVA and Paranoia agent are good ones. Though i dunno if Paranoia Agent fits, its more a commentary on normal life, but it has some supernatural stuff i there.

espada302
02-02-2008, 08:18 PM
Inuyasha is good but Ichigo has ths match once he enters bankai.


Nw jst lock this thread so we can get on wth our lives.

Dark-Aries
02-03-2008, 12:41 AM
Here are both the Death Note Movies in H.264
Both are from A joint project from Mishicorp and Sars.
The first Movie is a TV rip and the second one is a dvdrip. There is a dvd rip of the first but I can't find it at the moment.
File Sizes:
Movie 1: approx. 400mb.
Movie 2: approx. 600mb.
Notes: The second movie does not contain AAC 5.3 audio. It has been converted to 2ch due to the lack of AAC codec (I'm to lazy to download it...plus the file size gets bigger)
For those who want the movie quick it shouldn't matter anyways.
Links:

Death Note Movie


http://rapidshare.com/files/85061769/Death.Note.Movie.Sars.sub.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/85086278/Death.Note.Movie.Sars.sub.part2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/85092779/Death.Note.Movie.Sars.sub.part3.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/85225999/Death.Note.Movie.Sars.sub.part4.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/85236437/Death.Note.Movie.Sars.sub.part5.rar


Death Note: The Last Name


http://rapidshare.com/files/88337551/DeathNote.The.Last.Name.Sars.Mishicorp.AniMeKV.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/88346007/DeathNote.The.Last.Name.Sars.Mishicorp.AniMeKV.part2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/88353244/DeathNote.The.Last.Name.Sars.Mishicorp.AniMeKV.part3.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/88361741/DeathNote.The.Last.Name.Sars.Mishicorp.AniMeKV.part4.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/88381366/DeathNote.The.Last.Name.Sars.Mishicorp.AniMeKV.part5.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/88390403/DeathNote.The.Last.Name.Sars.Mishicorp.AniMeKV.part6.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/88390820/DeathNote.The.Last.Name.Sars.Mishicorp.AniMeKV.part7.rar


My ups. Pass these links onto other Death Note fans.

Enjoy!

Zanga
02-03-2008, 05:13 AM
Who do you think would win?

Natsu from Fairy Tail?

Or..

Ace from One piece.

James Cizuz
02-03-2008, 05:33 AM
We haven't seen enough from ace.

However, I would like to pick ace, I have to go with natsu. Like I said, all we have seen from ace, isn't much. He probably, most likely is much more powerful then natsu, however hasn't showed it yet.

Aesthetique
02-03-2008, 06:52 AM
I'd go with Ace for now. xD

But Natsu has a great chance. After all, he could just eat Ace's fire and get stronger each time.

Hmmmm...

ultimate
02-03-2008, 07:49 AM
Death Note is also kinda supernatural too since it involves shinigami and stuff. Another one I forgot to mention is Blood+ but I never got into that. I might take a look at Paranoia Agent if I come across downloads for it.

Edgey
02-03-2008, 12:31 PM
I don't know if you could count Higurashi No Naku Koro Ni as a "supernatural" anime but it does have stuff about gods and demons in there, could be worth checking out :)

Dark-Aries
02-03-2008, 02:14 PM
Raito...sound almost the same as lighto....which is raito in katakana if you think about it. IT's both the same. It's the sam as calling some girl alexandria or alex. Jessica or Jesse. Whichever floats your boat.

Graffik
02-03-2008, 07:21 PM
^lol thanks,

The show wasn't exactly record breaking... unless you looked at it negatively, jks

Princess Gheyfu
02-04-2008, 10:25 PM
Anywhere else to find this? The link isn't working. u_u

SKEZR
02-05-2008, 01:22 AM
is on the sci fi channel tonight at 8 pm eastern time

Im sure almost everyone has seen it but if you havent its worth staying up for

and always worth watching a 20th time

LoolboveLer
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