The Media Debate

[koreasamurai]

this just came 2 me when i was thinking in math class (always boring) but what happened to the world. 30 years ago no one in the world saw how many people were getting addicted 2 drugs. NO one slit there wrist. little worshiped satanism. people went to church often, people didn't rape people as often. Less lesbians, gay people were out there. people didn't get as drunk and i can name a ton more things. Exactly what happened that made the world turn basically upside down in 2 decades?

[ssjharsh]

this just came 2 me when i was thinking in math class (always boring) but what happened to the world. 30 years ago no one in the world saw how many people were getting addicted 2 drugs. NO one slit there wrist. little worshiped satanism. people went to church often, people didn't rape people as often. Less lesbians, gay people were out there. people didn't get as drunk and i can name a ton more things. Exactly what happened that made the world turn basically upside down in 2 decades?


Well, I wasnt around 30 years ago, but I am pretty sure all those things occurred, but they were not as publicized. Drug use has definitely been around for ages, but only in recent (past 50 years) times has there been such an outcry against it. Also social mores inhibited many from openly expressing their sexuality, so many repressed their emotions and desires (few came out of the closet). Wrist-slitting was around, as was any other form of suicide or hurting oneself, but it was all very taboo to talk about such topics. Acually, I think 30 years ago is too short time period... thats the 1970s, and was actually the start of the Gay and Lesbian movements. In fact, I think the "better days" concept that you are talking about is more like the 1950s "Leave it to Beaver"-ish misconception that still hangs around. If you look a bit deeper, you see that all the problems we face today were budding and fermenting in those days, but people refused to pay attention to them, and therefore we see a huge difference now.

[Sandal Hat]

The media.

Edit: Also, maybe that generation of adults of had something to do with it. Like what they taught there children and such.

[XyperDragon]

Sandal Hat lol, you took my line, It is the Media. Those guys are evil, exposing and hiding facts and fiction. it molds the enviroment around us.

The Gays have been around since the Olden days (Way before Shakesphere) because it was a manly thing... dont ask... and Drugs also have been here. anything to sooth your mind was basically drugs.. thats why people died alot on the olden days .. cause it wasnt actual medicine, it was just drugs. The Gothic Culture has been around for ages as well. They are the true people who worshiped satanism. but that died out long ago. they all (the real culture) sacrafised themselves. Rape? Rape has been happening since a guy never got it from a girl he liked. except it was more of a combo from rape then murder. 30 years ago.. hmm take it as 50 or 70 years ago.. since media was forcefully the new line of gossip and tragic facts.. people started to look at it more. and when media has nothing to tell.. they go for fiction and lies. Simple.

Works like a Charm when your looking for "ratings". =__= tsk tsk tsk.

[Tokoyami]

Its not that the media lies, the media does not lie, rather they show only one side of the story. The side that provokes emotions in the viewer, terefor making them watch. Like the whole kanye west thing, he said bush hates black people but the media made it look like he was a racist and that he hated white people. I mean Kanye's best friend and co-producer is white,

(i kno because i watched his MTV special at around 4:00am one saturday)

Thats just how the media is, anything to get a story.

[XyperDragon]

=___= I am The Media, i work for the Media... For god sake media lies. Yes We get anything to get viewers. but not only to get the story that is truthful it could also be a lie...

Tune into CNN and find out =) or BBC Try it... I worked for them already. and quit the job cause they are lieing *****es.

[Ethereal Blade]

yes... the media plays a big part... but... I would also like to say that half the stuff happening is because teenagers have too much freedom. My parents are really strict and I'm rarely allowed out late even though I'm doing AS levels - not child no more ^^ It's not unusual to see teenagers running around outside with a beer in their hand, a cig in the other and mouthing off at everything in the foulest language possible.
A few decades back, drugs, rape, murder didn't happen as often as it does now. I really think how one is brought up effects how they see things around them. A person with a bad childhood, no attachments etc are more likely to commit crimes. Since pregnancy at a young age is so common, and since young people aren't that well at looking after them (you know, where one partner ditches nthe other cos 'I wanted sex, not a child' etc, 'forgot to use condom' or 'I don't want nethin to do with it'), then more children end up having a bad childhood which can cause them to find other things to relieve stress when they grow older, like drugs.
As for lesbians and gay people, I think they were around for quite a long time. It's not easy admitting that you're gay when almost everyone around isn't. My friend is, he doens't say it out liud but everyone knows. It's just with recent years, more things are accepted so it's not such a big deal.
Suicide always has happened. Back then in China, it was considered honor to kill yourself and your family if you've committed a great crime. Not sure bout england... I think execution was the choice.
Like Xyperdragon said, rape's been here all the time. unfortunately. I wish for a day when we girls can walk through a dark alleyway without any fear...

[Pharcyde]

30 years ago the hippies started all this crap

their ideals were good, the way they handled it sucked

[haruki_jitsunin]

I'll say it again.. the media.. it has apathized anyone with socially good morals to thinking that suicide and drugs, sex and violence, and homosexuality and alcohol are good things... after all we are all animals.. .according to secular humanists that have ruled the media since forever ago and have just been making people forget morals because they are all relative... look at the result. A nation that cannot come together on any point, a family life that is less than good in fact non-existant almost, and a society that just does not care about anyone but themselves... It's a sad thing...

[strydr]

i think that the people were given too much freedom, and society broke down when everyone decided they didnt want to do anything for themselves and there future (drug guys), lesbians and gays are just more open these days, they are more publicized than anything (look at the show Queer eye for a straight guy, Will and grace, many more).
one thing the world must learn is that with choice comes responsibility, but people dont care much these days

[Pipp-ORK]

And Disney lies! Has anyone here ever read the original Alice In Wonderland book? I'll never, ever do a google image search on that perverted cat AGAIN.

[ssjharsh]

Its true that the media tries to do whatever it can to get viewers, but its ignorant to blame it all on them. Its not like we are not watching what they put on. They on put on what we will watch, and since this is what they are putting on, it means that somewhere within ourselves we want to watch it. Blaming the media is just passing the buck.

[Hits]

I happened....thats what!

[DragonLink]

this just came 2 me when i was thinking in math class (always boring) but what happened to the world. 30 years ago no one in the world saw how many people were getting addicted 2 drugs. NO one slit there wrist. little worshiped satanism. people went to church often, people didn't rape people as often. Less lesbians, gay people were out there. people didn't get as drunk and i can name a ton more things. Exactly what happened that made the world turn basically upside down in 2 decades?


technology

[Miriya]

Would anyone here honestly want it to be 30, 40 or 50 years ago right now? I think it's because of so much opression to be honest. Women were opressed, and don't say no - who was _expected_ to take care of the children? Cook? Clean? Suffer through years of abuse from their spouse because it was frowned upon to leave a relationship. (Which, in some cases still happens today.) And if he did beat you, he must've had a good reason - you were a bad wife. What the hell? Women's bodies weren't their own. There was war - people were _forced_ to go. I don't know if the US had conscription during the WWs, but Canada did. We were pretty much forced to defend a crown how far away? And what about gays and lesbians? Much of what was going on from the start, is still happening today. IMO, society hasn't evolved that much, but rather devolved to fill its most primal instincts even though certain norms have changed.

[General Cox]

what happend to france :p

been riots in paris since ovtober 27th. its worse than iraq!

[Fect]

Most of it was occuring, but it was not publicised as it is today.

[XyperDragon]

Published because media are assholes! grr... no actually it published now a days cause real stories (i mean the "omg that poor kid" kind of stories) arent important anymore.

but i do take back when i said its all media's fault (if i said it)... IT Was truely ignorant of me...thank you ssjharsh... never the less we outselves were not corrupted from the start were we?... so if media did no influence us, what did?

[koreasamurai]

so who should we blame? ourselves the media or something else?

[Fect]

Blame falls with everyone.

We function as a collective, and despite what Anarchists say, humans are never to be alone: IT'S EMPIRICALLY PROVEN.

[Nesquik]

i dont know
just came the wars the sattanism the gays and lesbians and the perverted people
it is like the earth is like dying little by little
like the end of the world!!!!

[Jasper]

I agree... life has changed drastically in the last 30 years... Suicide rate has increased... Drugs are as easy to get as getting a tuna can from the grocery... Fewer people are religious... I know... the problem is only a few realize that and think of it as being abnormal... I think I read Sandal Hat saying "The Media"... And yes I gotta agree... media has changed over the last 30 years is one of the reasons why life has changed too... However I think the reason behind that is the human's greed... All human's in general are greedy in a way or another (you can't deny it... its a proven fact)... this greed drives people to be more agressive towards each other, more insecure about themselves... Insecurity develops into fear and perhaps even jealousy... Then things can get pretty ugly... People think that praying in general is a time waste that they could invest better... Without the belief in them people seek other means of making them forget like drugs or suicide... Its a few people who realize it and even fewer who can avoid it...

[Tokoyami]

Understand, the media isnt jsut channel 4 news at 7, or fox 2 news at 8 or whatever, its newspapers, magazines, ads, those huge ass billboards, even message boards like this can be considered media.

Just thought i would mention that.

[koreasamurai]

buts its not just that. Now we as in including ourselves and little kids about 5 are all playing video games inside the house. Not such a bad thing when ur 18 but kids do need excersice. And gta san andreas just shows how screwed up the world became and 10 year olds play that!

[Jasper]

GTA San Andreas is the worse video game a 10 year old can play... the game has is very violent, you hear curses every 2 seconds and there are even nudity pictures in the game! And regarding the video game stuff and kids... You make it sound like you didn't play video games when you were young... I for one didn't go out much when I was young because of health issues... and I grew up to be just fine! Its all a matter of parental upbringing... you teach your son/daughter what is right they'll follow that... you don't they'll just do what their friends at school/college tells them to do...

[Jinx20]

I agree that the media in all it forms is mostly responsible for the dramatic increase in everything wrong with the world whether it be drugs, suicide, violence, war etc... The media inflames and insights behaviour that is by normal standards anti-social.

[koreasamurai]

GTA San Andreas is the worse video game a 10 year old can play... the game has is very violent, you hear curses every 2 seconds and there are even nudity pictures in the game! And regarding the video game stuff and kids... You make it sound like you didn't play video games when you were young... I for one didn't go out much when I was young because of health issues... and I grew up to be just fine! Its all a matter of parental upbringing... you teach your son/daughter what is right they'll follow that... you don't they'll just do what their friends at school/college tells them to do...


of course i played them, my parents didn't approve but i played them and still do but now i think that its very depressing how games became. Remember sonic? or mario? now the new fad is gta or all the other shooting games like without warning or something

[ssjharsh]

Its not just the media, even though they mostly get the blame. America, as well as many western nations, are losing their idea of family and togetherness. Parents often have to choose between taking care of their kids or going out to put food on the table. Of course, most choose the latter, but then that leaves the kids to being taught life lessons from other sources, such as media, video games, etc. Therefore, they become find things and think that they are "ok", even though if their parents were around, most would teach their children that those things are wrong. Furthermore, people are trying quick fixes, rather than getting to the root of problems, such as trying to get a video game from being sold, rather than dealing with their kid, and telling him or her that they are not allowed to play certain games until they are older.

[koreasamurai]

wow i never thought of it like that. All in all the world is corrupted. Why doesn't anyone try 2 even fix it? i mean the only time the world is sane is in the holiday season aroud december since its the time of merriment, but thats the ONLY TIME they do act so. Why don't they act like that all the time?

[Jasper]

You just answered yourself, holiday season... i.e. no work... That means people are free to sit around with their children... In the western regions like the US, Canada Europe and so on, christmas is the official holiday that people enjoy to the fullest... Here in the Arab Peninsula and northern Africa people have a similar holiday known as Eid... Again a similar scenario occurs people are know more open and they can speak more freely, its like someone has taken off a very heavy load off their shoulders... Its possible that its like some divine intervention you know...

[Hits]

Well, I actually think the world has gotten a lot better the it was 60 years ago. Granted there is still way too much war, hunger, disease and rich countries like US, England, Canada, Japan and such aren't doing anything to help. Our obsession with violence and sex in media is very unhealthy and there should be a stop to it. But looking back 65 years ago, the world was in an even worse state. The holocaust is a dark era in our history that I wish to forget but it never will. Compared to the world today and what it was 60 years ago, it is a lot better. But being a lot better then 65 years ago still isn't all the good. Presidents are sending sons and daughters to war for what thought to be a country filled with Weapons of Mass Destruction. While countries on spending billions and billions on war and destruction of people's lives in other countries, it took them 5 days to save the people in their own country from floods and rain. There are much room to improve on today and to be honest, I don't think too much is going to change in the next 50 years.

[Pipp-ORK]

I hope no one here thinks that the world was cotton candy and bubbles back then. There's been problems with every decade, but the problems of today are so severe they just overshadow what went on about 60 years ago, leading us to believe the world was "better". For instance, if someone 60 years ago was caught stealing, it would seem much worse than if someone stole something today. So 60 years from now, crimes like rape or molestation wouldn't be dealt with as severally. The world's always had issues..

Would anyone here honestly want it to be 30, 40 or 50 years ago right now? I think it's because of so much opression to be honest. Women were opressed, and don't say no - who was _expected_ to take care of the children? Cook? Clean? Suffer through years of abuse from their spouse because it was frowned upon to leave a relationship. (Which, in some cases still happens today.) And if he did beat you, he must've had a good reason - you were a bad wife.
What really makes me angry, is that if a woman is raped, molested, etc. by a man, the first thing a judge will ask the woman is, "What were you wearing?". Stupid ****ers. That's why people need martial arts! The second someone knocks you to the ground, you can just reach up and rip their damn eyes out!

[dare2move]

What really makes me angry, is that if a woman is raped, molested, etc. by a man, the first thing a judge will ask the woman is, "What were you wearing?". Stupid ****ers. That's why people need martial arts! The second someone knocks you to the ground, you can just reach up and rip their damn eyes out!

rofl~ true that. :D

[FascionViktem5k]

i don't think a judge is allowed to ask a question like that... i think that's more of the reporters and the people reading the story... they try to make it like "the woman had it coming because she was wearing a skirt and a tanktop" ... so now we're not supposed to wear skirts and tanktops because we'll be raped? no.. F*ck off... and not only that.. but it's always men that say that.. let's see you get raped and we'll see how you feel about it afterword! that's wat really makes me angry... dumb people... they've gotten worse..... education is free... but you don't HAVE to do it... that's the real problem.. and not only that.. but nobody even talks about issues like that!!!! wtf?!?!?! "yeah war on terror.. the elections.. the budget... gun control.. blah blah" ... how about that kid that was beaten last night? the woman that was raped and murdered with a child at home? that husband whose beating his wife to beyond recognition and isn't letting her leave the house? .. what about that sh*t? ... the real problem is the damn media.. why are the masses of this country and others focusing on "the breakup of Brad and Jen" ... when sh*t is happening everyday! we're the problem... we're buying this crap.. if enough people didn't do that then the real problems MIGHT get fixed... but since we do buy that... and we get dumber and dumber as we do.. we don't see what is REALLY happening.. i think we as the youth should do something about it... but... i don't know how... .... hey let's come up with some ideas!!! maybe we CAN do something... or maybe i'm just lost in false hope?

[DragonLink]

I finally know what happened to the world

I happened! Buwahahahaha

[Lost1]

http://maxe.ausgamers.com/images/nigga_please.jpg

[FascionViktem5k]

..........oh... wow...... that is probably the funniest thing i've seen today........ and yet it is so sad and true............ *runs away laughing*

[DragonLink]

..........oh... wow...... that is probably the funniest thing i've seen today........ and yet it is so sad and true............ *runs away laughing*


You Damn Right!

and Lost1

what the hell??!?!?

[Lost1]

It was meant as a joke, I guess you couldn't grasp the hilarity.

[DragonLink]

It was meant as a joke, I guess you couldn't grasp the hilarity.

Not that, I just dont get it. Oh well.

[Lost1]

Slang that means "Give me a break." Or anything similar in meaning.
"I got laid last night!"

"Nigga please."

:doindadom

[FascionViktem5k]

i would like to point out that "nigga please" is actually a very degrading term... and African Americans really degrade themselves when they call eachother that... and it's really sad.... and it's usually the urban, poor, gov. abandoned them type of people... it's really sad.... and we can't even comprehend how they really live... no amount of "tv" will ever show us that... but they still use that.. except when white ppl use that! it makes me very angry! like ..."your white!!!! shut up!!!!" ..... and not even urban white ppl... these are Suburban white kids!!! y'know... rich/middle class families.. "i'm bored.. i'll dress ghetto today!!!" .... if you wanna be real why not just call eachother cracka!!!! "Cracka Please!!" .... i see bad things in the future.. oh... my head.... why must these white boys act like they know everything?!?!? why?!?!!

[koreasamurai]

i get annoyed when african americans say we are being racial and we ARE NOT and yet they have there own channel called BET. Isn't that racial at all saying we are african americans and better than u?

[FascionViktem5k]

you wanna hear a funny story? well not so funny.. but about how some... SOME! not all but SOME African Americans abuse the priveleges given to them?!?! well i don't care i'm telling it anyway... SO! as you all probably know from other forums, i am Bulgarian, and this is a story of a Bulgarian lady in NYC because my family like.. knew some friends of hers or something? ... but anyway! story!
one day she and her son went to one of the play grounds in the city, nothing out of the ordinary... so as her son went down the slide this other child (much larger than her own) began to slide down right afterwards... keep in mind her son still hadnt' gotten off... knowing how much larger the other child was the woman rationally thought to herself, "if i don't stop this kid he'll really hurt my son".... so she grabbed him by the arm so that her son could get out of the way.... this larger child was African American... and his mother saw what the Bulgarian lady did... and automatically made it a racial thing! the Bulgarian lady didn't even know english! at all! so she went to court and everything and had an interpreter and she said her side and everything and the judge still filed against her.. so she had to pay this woman and not only that but also had a restriction on how she wasn't allowed to go within like 50 feet of where the woman lives or whatever? something like that... and this poor woman is just like "i don't care where she lives! i don't care that she's black! i just didn't want her son hurting mine by accident!" .... now tell me... is this fair?

[bebe50UL]

i dont know
just came the wars the sattanism the gays and lesbians and the perverted people
it is like the earth is like dying little by little
like the end of the world!!!!
yeah i agree.

you might think this is weird, but i heard from somewherel that hurricanes, and etc are happening is cuz 'God' is punishing us for being bad, (the drugs, killing, raping..)

but anyways.. sometimes i wonder what the hell happened to society. i think kids nowaday are a bit too mature. kids in grade 4/5 are already having girlfriends/boyfriends and a lot of young girls; my age (13ishh to 16ishh) are already doing stuff (makin out..touchin..) some girls are dressing a bit too revealing. a lot, lot of underage people are doing drugs/smoking/weed/alcholo; anythingg you just name it.

[zembu]

i know and kids dont even care about thier education the only reson they go to school is because they have to. theyre far more conserned with thier clothes or hair

[jkdj2005]

Here is what I have to say about it.

Positive situations will bring about more positive situations.
Negative will only bring more negative.

Life is really to valuable and short to worry about and add to all the negative aspects of the world. I always try to stay optimistic.

[iladys]

Jkdj,I back you up 100%. Live like you wont' live for long. It's a really hard thing to do but we have to try cause we never know when it can be taken away.

I have a weird theory. I live in a muslim country which isnt so tight on rules, so you'll see some muslims wearing low rise pants and cropped tops. Yeah anyway, there are a lot of girls who think 'less is more' so they do just that. Back in like the 1920s,1950s etc. they didnt wear all these things right? They preferred the high-waisted pants and long sleeved shirts. It's like the prehistoric ages with the cavemen when they wore nothing then very little clothing. Are we going back to those times? It's like one big giant reversal. My grandma gives me problems because I wear low rise and she gives me a talk. Will we turn to 'no clothes' in the future? I know this is a big radical idea but it makes you think.

[FascionViktem5k]

in the future womens fashion will be just two censor bars covering the private areas... cuz there won't be fashion!!! oohhh!!!!! for some strange reason all i wear is pants.. yeah their low rise.. but even like in the summer i wear pants... is that wierd? ... sometimes i think it is... but i'm just comfy! i'm sorry!!!!
PS: yay for slutty 7 year olds!!! go have sex and have children at 12 and then abandon them and then go to jail!!!! whee!!! (i hate children these days..... i was never like that!!!)

[GeneYuss]

1. What the hell is wrong with gay people? You wanna know? NOTHING. They're just like us.
2. You know what happened to the world?


...
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People.

[FascionViktem5k]

there ya go... and like George Carlin said "we're worried about plastic" .... the Earth can take care of itself... it was here before us.. and it will be here after us... and if it's sick of us.. which it isn't yet.. it will get rid of us... so just sit back and enjoy the ride!!!
PS: some ppl actually believe that there is something psychologically wrong with gay people... um yeah.. whoever thinks that let me tell you something... there's something psychologically wrong with all of us... so shut up..

[koreasamurai]

this is just a curious question not to be rude 2 u or anything. But r u gay? not like kidding or insulting but in real life form?

[Fect]

That's what happened. The media lost touch with us and pulled us into a world where problems aren't truly problems, like homosexuality -

It wasn't publicised until the media decided to. It had been going on since the Greco-Roman period of history.

[FascionViktem5k]

this is just a curious question not to be rude 2 u or anything. But r u gay? not like kidding or insulting but in real life form?

don't worry i'm not offended... and no i'm not .. but i'm a girl so the correct question should have been "are you a lesbian?" ... and no... the thing is i go to a college that is like... 50% gay.. so i know so many ppl that are gay.. and it really upsets me when things like that are said... even though i'm not part of the GLBT community.... i know so many that i feel like their family.. sort of? (GLBT= gay, lesbian, bisexual, transexual) ... in case anyone is wondering i go to SUNY Purchase... "where the women are women, and the men are too" ... that's a quote from some of my upper classmen friends... i think it's very true.. lol! .. yeah.. sorry i went on a tangent... the answer is no in case i didn't say it already! lol!!

break dance! :doindadom

[ProtoFunc]

i just think its the law of the world, everything deteriorates....that includes civilization...

[Fect]

No matter what happened, we can only change that which will occur.

[FascionViktem5k]

and even then we still can't do much... darn this whole time thing!

[Shinraco]

what is wrong with the world?WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE WORLD?!?! nothing really, either it be 30 or 1000 year the world is the same XD a round . . spinning . .blue ball. whats wrong with society there the question you should be asking an why are you asking? well cause your educated enough to ask, people never use to philosophize why because they don't have time, they need to eat, to live there pointless lives with pointless reason while time pass an you age an age an age to only to die an be forgotten an leave no mark on the world we cling to because we don't know what else is there. theres your answer.

an what is that answer you may ask well its simple, the answer is that every one is selfish they wont a reason to live so they find it, is it money?power,love,fame,salvation blah blah blah the reason to live is unknown, 'why are we here?' is just another way of saying what is are reason. 'whats wrong with the world' LOL whats wrong is that we well go any length to answer that question by any means . . .

"why are we here?" could be the answer that spilt the human race into different continent, why theres religion, why theres science, why theres culture, why theres a race, we were all one, one color, one language, one, so that the word 'race' has no meaning, but what happen? debates, different in opinion, which cause a war which cause the eradication of 'one'. so i guess education is whats wrong with the world id just came to that conclusion, God(I'm a Christian) doesn't wont us to question, with out question there wont be any difference in opinion there wont be a opinion there wont be . . what well there be??

[nighthawksw]

I agree with what some of the others have said. It's not that those things weren't happening, it's that there wasn't public coverage over it. At one time, mentioning such a thing might not even believed, and you could be criticized for even accusing a person of doing such an act, be it rape, drugs, murder, etc.

Now adays people are being decensitized or however ya spell it, and things like that being said are becoming more and more accepted. As a result, people are coming forward with topics like these more often, and it's becoming clearer just how serious of a problem it all is

[Fect]

Or we've become a bunch of mindless hypocritical morons.

[MVIK]

what's wrong with the world? Nothing much other than a big hole in the ozone layer n the sea lvl is rising.

[nighthawksw]

Or we've become a bunch of mindless hypocritical morons.
geez, that's a great outlook on society >_>
I dont envy your situation at all, that's a rather dreary outlook on life in general.

[Hansy]

There are various things wrong with the world. Overpopulation, Global Warming, Various Media things promoting raping, cursing, and being an overall piece of crap lying on the earth. Apathy, no one really cares about anything anymore. The United States trying to help everyone while the infrastructure of their own country is collapsing. Everyone seems to have 'some' problem except for Japan and Canada.

[Fect]

China is waging a economic war against the world. IT CAN DESTROY US ALL AT ANY TIME!

[Tokoyami]

Humans in general are the problem with the world.

Global warming, the hole in the ozone layer, thats all human wastes effecting the enviorment.

We arent even part of the food chain, if we were to all up and dissapear, then enviorment might actually be better off.

[FascionViktem5k]

well if we're really that big of a problem to the world then the world can just get rid of us... it did to the dinosours... (unless you think it was that big asteroid thing...) ... i think the true question we're trying to answere here is what's wrong with people? ... rape was a very very serious crime back in the day... i think it was maybe worse than murder... but don't quote me on that! ... and now it's like "oh look another woman got raped.. oh it was probably because she dressed like slut anyway.." ... um.... no... what is wrong is that people don't care, and therefore beginning to justify the crime by blaming the victims... the world is fine... like George Carlin said "why are we here? ... Plastic... the world wanted plastic for itself so once it gets it it'll get rid of us.." ..... i like that idea... maybe the world really does want plastic... maybe we're here for no big reason... maybe we are... or maybe we're not really here... eh.. i don't care... i just like living this life that i'm in and enjoying the ride! (with my imaginary pet monkey)

[Kyouka Suigetsu]

Part of the problem in America is the way that the media conditions the people to act and think. In almost no other country does the news support such blatent stereotypes and almost archaic ways of thinking. It's almost like they want us to hate each other. Gun control and ethnic diversity aren't the problem either. Canada has just as mixed of a population and 1 gun for every 3 people. Hell, a study showed that almost every household there owns a firearm. So what is our problem? Well, I think what I mentioned earlier is a big part of it. *sigh*....

[SmallKid57]

we (humans) are literally the problem of the world. we created that hole in the ozone layer, we polluted the whole freaking earth, we exterminate species of animals (except some species).

and the drug part, its b/c humans are encountering more problems each and every day/ week. so some ppl think its a way to relieve stress or idk. but i say its freaking retarded... idk just my opinion.

sry if my post offended anyone, just speaking my mind

[Tokoyami]

yea truthfully, we kill ourselves each day. I mean i think are species is the only one that kills its own for no reason. The only one that would take a substance that knows is gonna kill us in the end. (smoking, drugs).

We are immune to evolution now, since we make most everything we need, every other animal gives back to the enviorment by either being eaten by somethin, or by decomposing in the soil. Us, we just kinda consume till we die, and the all diamond caskets (exagerating) that we are buried in, dont help the enviorment 6ft under.

We are exempt from the food chain, evolution, and the enviorment. Kinda like a virus in a computer.

In spite of all that, i can say **** the enviorment, because i dont kno about you, but im really enjoying my life right now ( ^_^). And i guess we'lll just have to try to fix the enviorment we damage.

[_strangechild_]

I have to agree, humans are the problem. Got 'too smart' and destroyed the world, stupid beings that we are. Corrupting with nature.

I think the society we live in got too complicated and messed up that we now have to live by a whole set of rules or be damned and a lot of people do not want to do that, or they just take drugs and stuff for the fun of it.

I'm sure Japan and Canada have some kind of a problem.

I'm not a Satanist or anything, but you have to remember that there are different types of Satanists, they're not all psychos who worship Satan. In fact, there's a lot of them who don't believe in God or Satan, they just don't think you should ignore your bad or good side. You should let it be as one.

[Ios]

We are immune to evolution now, since we make most everything we need, every other animal gives back to the enviorment by either being eaten by somethin, or by decomposing in the soil. Us, we just kinda consume till we die, and the all diamond caskets (exagerating) that we are buried in, dont help the enviorment 6ft under.

We are exempt from the food chain, evolution, and the enviorment. Kinda like a virus in a computer.

In spite of all that, i can say **** the enviorment, because i dont kno about you, but im really enjoying my life right now ( ^_^). And i guess we'lll just have to try to fix the enviorment we damage.

Yeah, I really agree on that one.
I've never thought of it but I think it's true that we are exempt of those things, but should we regret that? I mean how we (human species) are right now, that's pethatic. I think we were a lot stronger and stuff back when we lived in caves. I think it's a waste that we threw that away.

[Tokoyami]

Yeah, I really agree on that one.
I've never thought of it but I think it's true that we are exempt of those things, but should we regret that? I mean how we (human species) are right now, that's pethatic. I think we were a lot stronger and stuff back when we lived in caves. I think it's a waste that we threw that away.

Yea we were much stronger, since we did more work back then physically, muscle came easily. Unlike today, which requires a bowflex and a protien shake.

My biology teacher told me that some people say that man evolved this way because of his head.(explanation...--->) Back in teh day (billions of year ago, or when ever man wasnt smart yet) Man survived based on how far it could run, i mean with tigers and other predators, man wasnt much of a match, since the head was the escape point for most heat, those who could run the farthest without overheating and getting tired survived, and because so much heat and oxygen was pumped to the head, the mind evolved, letting us use strategy to catch and kill our prey, (ever wonder how 3 humans back in cavemen times would take down like 6 mammoth lookin mutha****ers).

Since we developed basic intelligence, and strategy, we built on it, and well...here we are. Since then we dont usually need our muscle much, except when we do factory jobs and beat the hell out of each other......which is qutie fun.

[FascionViktem5k]

so we basically just got smarter.... thats all..

[Sahiden]

And taller... And we live longer.

[MVIK]

but because the technology is getting better each day, lots more complicated problems than being eaten by tigers appear.

[FascionViktem5k]

and then there's the appendix... which has no use ... but when it gets infected ... oh the pain!!!! (happened to a freind of mine...) .. maybe if we evolve to... get rid of it... i'll believe in evolution.. but now we just have better things... like food and health and all that crap... sigh...

[koreasamurai]

for some reason i always believe that humans willl grow wings in the future :b Just because we'll soon kill the earth we live in right now from what they say of global warming and things like that and then because the world underneath is gone. We'll grow wings or something. I mean theres always myths bout humans with wings. Faeries maybe? And if we don't we'll get jet packs but i believe in wings more

[_strangechild_]

and then there's the appendix... which has no use ... but when it gets infected ... oh the pain!!!! (happened to a freind of mine...) .. maybe if we evolve to... get rid of it... i'll believe in evolution.. but now we just have better things... like food and health and all that crap... sigh...

What were appendix for? I heard that they had something to do with eating bark or something. =P
Loads of people I know have had their appendix out.
We have better things? Not all of us. A lot of people don't have good health or good 'and all that crap'. Poor people =(

Ha, it's you FascionViktem5k! [Just realised]... Gosh, I follow you everywhere.

[FascionViktem5k]

yeah.. you stalker.... lol!
actually i have no idea wat the appendix is for.... it had some purpose way back when.. but now it's like... "you can live without it..." unlike your kidneys... which you need... badly!!!

[akin_t]

Off topic but yeah the pain of a bad appendix is excruciating, I remember when I had it during my cambridge O level exams; damn that was tough having to study while in serious pain, anyway it was all good when the pain suddenly vanished prior to an operation I was still advised to go through with the operation but I still haven't got to it yet (doubt I will until the pain comes back, hopefully not).

Alright back on topic, so ... err what happened to the world again?

[FascionViktem5k]

lol! the world is fine!!!!

but wat about your appendix? usually the pain means that it was infected or something... there was never anything wrong with mine... so i still have it.. lol!
my friend though when she was real little she had it infected and she was in soooo much pain.... i don't want to go through that... but yeah...

back to the world!!! lol!

[koreasamurai]

lol! the world is fine!!!!

but wat about your appendix? usually the pain means that it was infected or something... there was never anything wrong with mine... so i still have it.. lol!
my friend though when she was real little she had it infected and she was in soooo much pain.... i don't want to go through that... but yeah...

back to the world!!! lol!


the world isn't fine. And im all for trying 2 b optimistic but theres something messed up 2 seconds i c in the world. Example 2 seconds ago i went searching info for the french revolution for school when a pop up for a gambling website came up. hmmm just shows how greedy humans have become....

[Kµ®º$åkî ‡¢hîgº]

^^ he's right, i guess its cuz people dont know whats going on around the world

Fun Fact::: There is a "holocaust" as you can call it going on in Sudan

[Hansy]

'Fun Fact::: There is a "holocaust" as you can call it going on in Sudan'

Sounds intresting, elaborate?

[Baron]

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/6/6/205759.shtml

I found an article about the holocaust in Sudan. I think this is what Kµ®º$åkî ‡¢hîgº is talking about.

Indeed, there's some crazy ish going on there.

[koreasamurai]

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/6/6/205759.shtml

I found an article about the holocaust in Sudan. I think this is what Kµ®º$åkî ‡¢hîgº is talking about.

Indeed, there's some crazy ish going on there.


excellent point! i mean reading that article and the ads on the side that says bare knuckle fighting not 2 mention some other websites show things that basically say pornography here 2 websites kids might go 2

[Kµ®º$åkî ‡¢hîgº]

actually i just got that from my debate teacher http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y174/ryo7bison/Chat%20Stuff/24.gif

but if your really are that interested i can find out where to go for some info...

[FascionViktem5k]

because this is a capitalist society and world.. you will always see those ads on the side of the website... everything is money now... and it's no longer just the US that worships money anymore.. it's spreading to other countries too... (and for those who say "how does the US worship money?!" ... look at your dollar bill right under the picture... what does it say? ... oh whats that? "In God We Trust"??? .... on the dollar bill? ... who exactly is this God, that George Washington seems to refer to... perhaps it is himself? ... nooo.... i'm sorry.. but everything in the US has to do with money.. you can't do ANYTHING without it having to involve spending money... so yeah..that should answer that question.. if you were wondering about it that is..)

[incognitoD]

most of the world now depends on money without it most societies would brackdown it would be the wallstreet crash on a global scale. Until someone finds a replacement for money we are all like it or not dependant on it

[Daeruke]

It is te stupid money loving adults

[Chord]

My my, quite the PoS we have here.

Actually, a lot of people were ruining themselves on drugs 30 years ago. I mean, we've had cocaine, alcohol, caffeine, heroin, tobacco and marijuana for a few centuries. We've had cocaine for at least 250 years, alcohol for at least 5000 years, if not more, heroin (in the opium form) for a while, it's not hard to make, tobacco has been around the same amount of time as cocaine, something to do with the Spanish invading the Aztecs or something, and marijuana has been used as a drug for about 5000 years and caffeine has been around for the last 60 years or so.

People cut their wrists long before any of you were born, including me. Suicide still happened back then, I don't know if it was higher or lower, but I'd probably say lower, mainly to do with religion and unreported deaths.

To the moron that said drugs are as easy to get as a can of tuna, of course they are, mainly because you can buy beer, cigarettes and caffeine at the store. But if your talking illegal ones, does this mean you've bought them before? Personally, I'd prefer to entrust myself to marijuana than a bottle of coca cola, mainly because I want to keep my liver in shape.

Playing GTA isn't going to make a 10 year old sudddenly go and get your gun (you shouldn't have a gun in your house if you've got children, anyway) and shoot people because its cool. I'm pretty sure GTA3 came out when I was about 11 or 12, and I'm perfectly normal, I have a large social circle of close friends, I'm doing well at school, and I'm dealing with hormones pretty well. Also, I don't think many of you are old enough to play GTA, even though you evidently have if your commenting on it, doesn't that stick out as hypocritical? Stick to what you preach.

I think a lot of the posts in this are really stuck up and extremely childish. Blaming the media for every single problem ("omfg sum1 died letz blame da media bcuz dey lie!!!!") isn't very mature, sometimes you have to accept that people bring things on themselves.

Sex in the media isn't a bad thing. In something meant for 6 year olds, maybe that's not a great thing, no that's actually a bad thing, but for 10 year olds and older I suppose it's a good way of introducing them to puberty and sex, which was much more effective to me than sex-ed classes. All we learnt is stay away from people with AIDS. No, it's not helpful. In fact, I think the media is the only thing teaching our children about sex, sadly enough. The whole "well kids having sex now is wrong, we didn't do it" is completely invalid, mainly because your generation did do it. Same with kids today. It was a small percentile, but it happened. You see something on TV about kids having sex nowadays. They neglect to tell you, but its always happened. Your generation did it, you just didn't know about it, unlike the majority of todays kids.

Also, on that site, I see no porn ads, maybe because I have an ad blocker? Try Firefox, and get AdBlock, problem solved.

[FascionViktem5k]

i actually like the fact that there's sex in the media... sex is love! the media isn't spreading sex.. it's spreading love! people complain more about sex in the media than they do about criminal acts.. or violence...i don't know about you.. but me personally... i don't enjoy watching someone's skull get bashed in.. i prefer watching two people having sex.. why? because it's beautiful.. in my opinion... wat is GTA? i've never heard of it.. i'm assuming it's a game? if it is.. whatever.. play it i don't care.. there is no proven fact that games make people violent.. and besides.. games increase your hand eye coordination.. so go on play as much as you want!!!
i have no problem with children having sex... i know my generation did it... i just didn't take part... when did i lose my virginity? 16? 17? so yeah... my problem is these 11 year old girls on tv trying to get pregnant because "i can take care of my child!" and yet they have no job... that's my problem... and the fact that they don't consider oral sex as sex.. and they don't think they can get STD's from that... umm.. yeah... that's my only problem with the youth and sex...
i just wish everything wasn't so money oriented... everything is about money.. money money money... even the doctor's office is now a business... wtf?!?!

[Ravenfdasfd]

Well baiscly,people need something to blame to make themselves feel better.

[FascionViktem5k]

Well baiscly,people need something to blame to make themselves feel better.

i guess so... but i wouldn't know since i don't really blame anything or anyone for anything.....

[Chord]

FascionViktem, I'm pretty sure your opinions in this topic have wildly fluctuated back and forth :p Sex is beautiful, free love!

[FascionViktem5k]

well it's just that personally speaking... i would rather watch two people having sex than two people stabbing eachother to death.... but that's just me... and i don't like propaganda on my tv... hence why i don't watch it... and my opinions are technically still forming so there could be some discrepencies in my posts... i am only 18... don't hurt me!! lol! but i don't think you should go out and like f*ck the world or something... lol! no no no! don't think i'm saying that at all! just... love! that's all! eh... whatever..

[Daeruke]

dude r u guy or a gal?
First of all sex main purpose is to reproduce. And our brains recieves meesages that it feels good. PPl like to feel good. N there are other ways to expres love like hugs and kisses. I m not saying sex isn't good but sex is not wat our life is about. It is about survival. Thats wat happened to the world. Survival. PPl found out easier ways to survive and die of age. But in the process, they step on ppl. Thats what happened our lifes r changing into extremes either very good or very bad

[FascionViktem5k]

umm... ok... we're talking about tv... and if you would just move your eyes down to my signature you would see that i am a girl.. i wrote it there a long time before you joined this forum... yes... because ppl thought i was a dude... don't know why.... of course i don't expect you to speak spanish so chica means girl... how about that?!? oh man... and we are talking about violence and sex on TV! tv.... not the real world.... we went off topic for a second there.... but thank you for getting us back on track...

[koreasamurai]

well those type of things r shown on the tv so yeah

[Ichigo_the_demon_slayer]

peopel lose interest in thing like you and math class people lose sight of what really matters and they take things into their own hands its sad but true and when it comes down to it no one cares about anybody except themselves anymore and well i cant say that i really care about anything except other people including myself(meaning i just dont care anymore) but things change for those who are willing.

[thief.13]

i think the reason there's so many evil things happening right now is because of propagation of errors. lifestyles increased in speed and somehow people forgot to check themselves from time to time whether they've been gving enough time for others loving and sharing things, stuff that helps people grow emotionally. and so as the years wore on the things that used to be conceived as bad were tolerated,because somehow people didnt have the time or the concern to correct them, and now it's tolerated. and then we suddenly wake up and realize what's happened? and then people started blaming other people because of the mess and the end result is just worse. so that's basically it.propagation of errors.

[Daedalus]

One word.
Technology

[thief.13]

deviate:
i jst read about a straight a student who shot this teacher(a substitute, i think) who gave him a D, or some grade lower than A. so you see, it's not just IQ that matters. people lost sight of what's essential for living harmonious lives.

[Daedalus]

deviate:
i jst read about a straight a student who shot this teacher(a substitute, i think) who gave him a D, or some grade lower than A. so you see, it's not just IQ that matters. people lost sight of what's essential for living harmonious lives.

yea, Its technology tho. Before we never had technology, but now with technology, things happen that can make us more aggresive and more prone to violent matters. Thats my only solution I can think of.

[thief.13]

One word.
Technology
i dont think it's technology per se. the kid who shot his teacher didnt need hi tech gadgets to kill. when you're a bad egg, you're a bad egg. technology for me has worked really well in keeping my ties with my family since i study far from home.so in a way, it's a good thing for me. it's always the person's decision on what to do about situations.

[Daedalus]

i dont think it's technology per se. the kid who shot his teacher didnt need hi tech gadgets to kill. when you're a bad egg, you're a bad egg. technology for me has worked really well in keeping my ties with my family since i study far from home.so in a way, it's a good thing for me. it's always the person's decision on what to do about situations.


Ok ok your right BUT!

Their were BAD EGGS in the old times but they never SHOT anyone.

What do you think made them THAT VIOLENT in the first place?

[thief.13]

well, the parents were not good enough to explain to the kid that guns are bad. when you use guns as a defense to save lives, it's morally or universally right.

[Ichigo_the_demon_slayer]

technology can not make one evil, only that person can make themselve evil (meaning that if you had a gun with you and someone you cared about broke your heart or in the teacher case you make the desicion to become evil.)

[Chobi]

blame canada!




(joke from south park)

[Kyouka Suigetsu]

Politics are why the world is so messed up. They prevent people from taking action and too much of it is based on appeasing what a single person or a group of people wants. Why can't governments ever seem to get their priorities straight? Politics. Why don't 3rd world countries receive the food they need when it's more than possible to do so? Politics. Why hasn't oil been phased out for cleaner and cheaper fuels? Politics. Why is the world continually polluted and razed of natural resources when it's been proven there will be dire consuquences? Politics. The list of situations goes on and on but you can always find the same word within all of them: politics.

[Ichigo_the_demon_slayer]

do not blame the government or technology blame humans because it is not politics or technology that messed up with the power we have to manipulate them.

[Urahara-sama]

Like alot of others have already said it's the media. It's not neccesary that the problem has gotten worse(although it probably has) it's that the media is more public about things like this. Anything to make a buck....

[thief.13]

dont blame technology i agree. but politics IS about humans.

[meowmix03]

this just came 2 me when i was thinking in math class (always boring) but what happened to the world. 30 years ago no one in the world saw how many people were getting addicted 2 drugs. NO one slit there wrist. little worshiped satanism. people went to church often, people didn't rape people as often. Less lesbians, gay people were out there. people didn't get as drunk and i can name a ton more things. Exactly what happened that made the world turn basically upside down in 2 decades?




Drugs : 60's and 70's there still was drugs and there were probably even more addictions because they didnt know as much as we do today about them. There's no way you can say that drugs now are any worse than then. Its still about the same.

Suicide: I'm not 100% but I am sure that there Are SOME people who did. Why they do it now is beyond me because well even if life is shitty and you're dealt a shitty life, its up to you to make the best of it and if you **** it up, theres always a way to fix it somehow. Ending life is stupid unless you have no respect for anything or yourself

Church: thats simple. People dont go as often because less people believe in God... if you look back at CHURCHES... they ****ed all of the society up and caused so many problems because people took it too seriously and well, now there are still many believers and such but people dont want to rely on a higher power anymore. Morals.

Gays n Lesbians: I dont see how you can call that a problem. Freedom of expression and for most of them they are born that way. It's usually an inbalance in the brain that causes that and back then it was even more socially unacceptable then now. Now that it is accepted, its more widespread

And as for the rest, like you've all been saying Yes Media also plays a huge role becasue they advertise it everywhere and pratically force it into our brain that all theses "new things" are becoming more "acceptable" therefor people go with it and dont think about the consequences because it's what they see and what they're used to seeing.

[Tachibana]

its not the media or anything...
its human nature!!!!!

dont u guys get it?????
i SOMEWHAT agree to what Thomas Hobbes saaying about human nature... that they are selfish and etc.

in my perspective, human beings (im being general not specific) must live under strict LAW or RULE. Just to make ourselves be discipline. That's why the story of God made the Ten Amendments and society makes all these rules like not throwing trash on the streets. I know someone would disobey the rules and once again thats just how human nature behaves...
thats where the term "Nobody is perfect" comes in. What do i mean by perfect? Everything what God says in the bible is perfect. if we, humans can listen to God's words we will be perfect, which is almost impossible. THats why god forgives sins.

on behalf of the drug thing... its an addiction problem like masterbating, which is bad. I dont no why its bad.....but its just bad. when i masterbate, i feel the uhhh i ono whatever u guys wanna call it uhhh weird, uncomfortable feelin. its almost like my heart tells me to stop masterbating cuz its bad.

[koreasamurai]

but strict rules also cause rebellion. example. i have a friend who was really smart till about 7th grade. Then he just gave up since his mom literally was so strict that he just forgot about the whole thing. Now hes..... lets say lost in spirit. which means that strictness can also cause bad things. Also the revolutionary war was to get away from the ruling and STRICTNESS of king george the 3rd

[Halesy]

What happened? Inevitably we started to tolerate people who shouldn't be tolerated. We became focused on the individuals instead of the communities. People who stood up for tradition were called haters, and haters rebelled against the title. We lost our spirit as a nation, and accepted our spirits as a person.
"It is not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country"- Yet I still turn on the news to hear people complain about late bonus welfare checks to cover stupidity of living in a flood zone.
The revolution of sex resulted in fast men, and faster women, and an age of divorce where kids were raised by two fighting genders and parents.
Morals were lost under the name of illogical, yet necessity was the reason they were created to begin with.

Ask yourself, and seriously EVERYONE who reads this, ask yourself, would you rather live 100 years ago in a society where who you were didn't matter, but you could smile everytime someone mentioned your country, and because of where you came from you had a power in that, or are you happy today where the individual matters, but you have nothing to be proud of nationally.

[mooks]

Man, what happened?

MORE than 70 per cent of the world's population has never heard a dial tone and ONE in five people live on less than 50p a day.

MORE people die from suicide than in armed conflicts. In the past 45 years, suicide rates have grown by 60 per cent worldwide. and what's worse A THIRD of the world's population is at war. In 2002, 30 countries were fighting in 37 armed conflicts - a combined population of 2.29 billion people.

but what really gets me is that THERE are 27 million slaves in the world; more than any other time in history.
(ISBN: 0972952969
Format: Paperback, 352pp
Pub. Date: September 2004
Publisher: Disinformation Company, The)

Kinda puts in perspective how good we got it...

Is that messed up or what?

[Halesy]

I am assuming India Mooks,b ut out of curiosity where are these slaves?

[beware_the_strawberry18]

well, Bush happened to the US...

As for the world? I'd have to say the glorification and resulted spread of sex, drugs and violence. Oh, and, of course, the lack of morale or basic human compassion in people today. And technology, to a degree--despite it being part of the path to so-called "human progression" it always tends to get into the wrong hands. That is why we have the classics from hollywood. "film and theatre are reflections of reality" and all that.

[akin_t]

well, Bush happened to the US...
As for the world? I'd have to say the glorification and resulted spread of sex, drugs and violence. Oh, and, of course, the lack of morale or basic human compassion in people today. And technology, to a degree--despite it being part of the path to so-called "human progression" it always tends to get into the wrong hands. That is why we have the classics from hollywood. "film and theatre are reflections of reality" and all that.

I agree, people everywhere (in America for the most part) have become so uncivil.

I don't know who to point the finger at ... this is when you actually begin to see why dictators are sometimes neccessary. In places like North Korea and Iraq they hardly have all these problems the west faces, but adooting their methods of ruling is out of the question.

[VampyreLord]

Don't forget alcohol! Blame alcohol as well, alcohol's bad. Thousands of deaths, and lives ruined.

A dictatorship is only as bad as the dictator, since he (or she) has ultimate power to shape the nation to his (or her) will. I would make a great dictator, ruling from castle Drakenhof, casting spells of evil doom...

there would be riots in the streets, your reign of terror would not last long

[mooks]

I am assuming India Mooks,b ut out of curiosity where are these slaves?

There are slaves on every continent, Asia, Africa, US...

everywhere- but the slaves in africa are different from those in the US. The african slaves are usually orphaned AIDS children sold or bought, or relatives taking in other children who become houseworkers for life-with no pay (slave).

The ones in the states are in closed communities scattered throughout, Illegal immigrants- working for people from their native land. The biggest concentration is in the orange farming, mexicans planting and spreading insecticide.. UNHCR labeled them slaves because of their unreasonable pay- a couple cents an hour.

I don't have all the info, but check out the book... It's shocking- makes you think the end is neigh

[koreasamurai]

well techinically speaking they rn't slaves if they get paid since they still get something from it.................. no matter how small the wages r... though it doesn't really help them. And I hate bush to but we can't blame the world on him since China is also having some problems (in myopinion) not to mention the communisms all over the world

[mooks]

technically they ARE slaves, that's what UNHCR was getting at. You don't have to be shackled in chains and whipped to be a slave. The peanuts they get paid is a false sense of hope that they might make money and leave the job, when in reality they're not.

[Draffut]

well techinically speaking they rn't slaves if they get paid since they still get something from it.................. no matter how small the wages r...

thats like saying that the african slaves in America a few hundred years ago were not really slaves, cause they got room and board for there work.

[chipp zanuff]

The world changed and this changing depends on the great country which rules this world nowadays. Every body knows this country. All sins in this country and it is spreading the bad things to world in reason of freedom and democratic and the virtue and chasteness is sin and constrain.

[Draffut]

All sins in this country and it is spreading the bad things to world in reason of freedom and democratic and the virtue and chasteness is sin and constrain.

Ok, this time try it in a language besides Jibberish. I dont have a translator for that.

[Yuen]

I really doubt technology did anything to corrupt us, we did that to ourselves. And you know what? Why are people complaining about alcohol?? There's worst things than that to complain about. How about you complain about something of revelance like the sex trades industry. How about the practice of femal abortion in india that lead it to the creation of slave wives, where girls ranging from age 10+ are sold to men who will buy them to become sex slaves because there isnt enough girl in India compared to the man. Yet still, they practice female abortion because they want a baby boy. Seriously, there's so many things wrong with the world, now and then. And I dont think its ever gonna change. Not to be pessimistic, but how can you not be when the media focuses on "human interest pieces" that will always be something disastrous.

P.s. I know Im ranting cuz Im in a bad mood but trust me, alcohol is not to blame for terrorism, corruptions and war. Its too busy corrupting the unprecautious highschool girls.

[chipp zanuff]

Ok, this time try it in a language besides Jibberish. I dont have a translator for that.
English is not my language, so I'm sorry if you didn't understand me, but I think it's clear, USA is the home of all sins.
Jibberish is written with G not J

[koreasamurai]

English is not my language, so I'm sorry if you didn't understand me, but I think it's clear, USA is the home of all sins.
Jibberish is written with G not J



i dont think u can blame it all on the U.S. sure it had a good amount of the corruption in our world, but not all of it. i mean some of its to Germany with its insane beer drinking ( i think i could b wrong on this since i heard if from friends) But were we this corrupted in our ideas, beliefs, etc? Think bout it, there's so many undeveloped countries in the world and all we care bout is what we're going 2 eat for dinner when there's so many choices. TIME did a report on this a couple weeks ago. U.S. spends bout 300-400 dollars per week on food. An undeveloped country like Chad (yes its a country i found that suprising) only spends bout 1 dollar and 23 cents. When i read that i was just think wtf?! I mean not giving to the poor is technically not a sin, but r we this greedy, and this corrupted to not give an ounce of our food away. Is the world that egotistical to not care bout it? I mean this is digressing but out of the many english words, theres probably a lot more pessimistic ones, and probably hundreds for the word greedy or selfish.