is sex inherently evil?

[everblack]

why is it that sex is just a taboo. Why do people get offended if i walk down a street naked? As log as im not in them im not hurting them. Why do people have a sort of fear of naked bodies and sexual conduct. Is it because sex is just a destroyer of emotions. Is sex a homewreaker, is it evil??? no joke i really wanna see wat pple think about the subject.

[~black butterfly~]

actually, sex is something normal...its actually a human physiologic need... it also needs gratification..but also, sex involves a lot of emotions and stuff to be meaningful.. so its not something usual like eating or sleeping, its something you do that you're sure you're doing with the right person...or else, it will be meaningless

[Sarteck]

I never really understood why nakedness was so evil in public. I guess it's just the way we're raised, because it still raises my brows when I see a scantily-clad woman at the park, etc.

I don't know about sex, though. I mean, even animals don't have public displays when they're mating, right?

[l'irrépressible]

......doh bcuz society has evolved into 2 categories.
1. ppl who wear clothes to look pretty
2. ppl who goes naked to look pretty.
for ppl who r fat n haf layers of it.........option 1 is to save othr ppl from emotional scars by looking at them.
for ppl who r dead sexy........option 2 is also to save othr ppl from death cuz someone may die of heart attack

btw ur thread topic is strange bcuz it says if sex is evil but u ask why ppl scared of nakedness.
if sex is evil no one will be in this forum posting.

[everblack]

that really isnt helpful. what i want to kno is. is there something naturally wrong with sex? why is it private? why is porno bad? why is sex such a sensitive topic. If its about emotions how comes i can talk about love so easily. How comes pple can kiss in public but not get down and dirty? do u see wat im saying???

[Sarteck]

Because it has been so ingrained into the minds of those living in civilized societies that nakedness is "wrong." And this varies a bit from culture to culture, but it's largely the same.

Let me ask, how would you feel walking around naked, really? What about having an audience while having sex? For most of us, it would be awkward at the very least, and maybe even near torture for some others. It's because of the way society has raised us.

That is really the answer to why we (as a whole) tend to think of ALL things as "evil" or "wrong," because of the ways we were raised by society.

[Hattori]

It really depends on the culture a society is raised in. The Japanese, for example, are much more open with sexual matters but much mroe cautious when showing affection in public. Because of western society's Christian roots, respectability is associated with prudishness. Remember, the root of culture is religion, and the foundation of religion is language. A language that uses terms which imply negativity in sexual affairs (i.e. the f word, fornication, and other euphemisms for sex) will have ingrained in its users' psyches the connection that sex ---> evil.

[Captain Hitsugaya]

In ancient Greek time, I hear that Sex and Death is relatively the same.

Meaning that since Lust leads to sex, While Lust is one of the seven sins.

[shadow_of_89]

Sex is just an animalic way to breed...so it's not evil....it's just part of our instinct.....

[Silhouette]

Um. It's common sense actually. Would you want to be walking down the street, minding your own business.. Then all of a sudden, some naked fat guy starts walking in front of you. He drops something, and bends over to pick it up.. Bam! Mentally scarred for life. That is why being naked in public is wrong. (Unless you're hot, then it's fine..).

Er, anyway, people don't want to see stuff like that while in public, especially not while eating.

The reason why porn is seen as bad:

1. Most people believe that sex is something sacred that has to be done when married, and with the person you love. These people meet, screw, then go their seperate ways. (While making millions in the process)

2. Most people also believe that children shouldn't be exposed to that kind of stuff. Imagine taking your child to the park, only to find a huge sex orgy going on. Never know how that would effect your kid. And also, kids are very curious, and ask too many questions.. Thus, putting the parent through hell.


I don't know about sex, though. I mean, even animals don't have public displays when they're mating, right?

Don't animals do it in the wild? In public? Haven't you ever seen animals do stuff in public? >.> Like squirrels for instance.. I could have sworn that I saw a third squirrel there filming it too.. Very disturbing..

Don't take this post wrong. Sex is great. Have it! lol? :winking56

[Jack Van Burace]

Sex is good, but free sex was, during first steps of society, very dangerous, cuz many diseases were fastly spreading, so early religions all preached 2 b faihfull 2 your partner or partners (like arabs who have many wives). Also, ppl who disliked each other wouldn't like 2 share partners, and conflicts would break out. Also, inheritage was always a serious deal, cuz what if your son wasn't actually yours? And there were no good anti-pregnancy methods (there aren't still, but let's leave that aside, lol). And seeing ppl naked everywhere would result in too much sex, thus improving all the earlier mentioned problems.

[Draffut]

that really isnt helpful. what i want to kno is. is there something naturally wrong with sex? why is it private? why is porno bad? why is sex such a sensitive topic. If its about emotions how comes i can talk about love so easily. How comes pple can kiss in public but not get down and dirty? do u see wat im saying???

Becuase Sex in itself is for Procreation. Who or what does it benifit to be out in the street having sex? Noone. If anything, it might embaress those who cannot obtain it. Porno is sex without procreation, made and distributed to enhance the idea that intercourse without Procreation is bad, according to most religions. there is a difference in talking about "love" and "intercourse", you seam to belive they are the same thing. Once you are able to distinguish the two, it might become alittle clearer to you.

To get you started, Sex is somethign ever living thing does. But almost no other animals have sex for fun, or experience "love".

[Dekuben]

Well, i think that the sexual drive shouldn't come into play until the 20's. I would happily have a friggin v chip to stop me wanting sex.

[Delta]

I agree that most people think of sex as a "dirty" thing because of society and partially religion. What I dont agree with is that nakedness is exactly the same, I think people can associate nakedness w/ sex just because we've grown used to seeing people in clothes. But the differnece is clothes have an accual purpose, keeping you warm, cool ect.

[Dounick]

Why do people get offended if i walk down a street naked? As log as im not in them im not hurting them.
i guess its the fact that people dont liek the fact that you are so exposing and willing to show yourself in such a manner
because some people think thats vulger in ways

me on the other hand..... i would just point and luagh:LOL:





and sex is what brought basically all of humanity to earth..... because.... if there was no sex (that would suck ass) and there would ne no future and no..... essence of life

[SoundWave]

I don't mind naked ppl... Let them swing their "fire hose" or any other body part in public, I don't care. Sex is normal and the reason why we don't want ppl looking at us "in the middle of the act" is because we don't want other ppl to laugh at us imo. We all want to be perfect in one way or another. No1 want to expose their weaknesses.

[saycheese]

technically, the technology shows, there will be no "need" for sexual reproduction or males. females can make babies on their own or just to have sex for fun. sex is portait as evil mainly because the effects which comes with it. such as rape, and like the boogy man, its there to keep order. and a more serious issue which was considered was that, up until recently, giving birth to a child was rather dangerous. not so much as to we will kill all the girls by doing this(emotional damage rather than statistics, i mean u wouldnt want ur daughter to die rite?), but it creates problems of over population, a big difference in socieity age, as emotional belonging and etc etc. greed & partnerships have always been part of instincts as well, not only to humans. and you can associate with religion, but if we look down to the roots of it, sex after marriage has been around since caveman, and again look at the animals.

[Insight]

sex isn't inherently evil it is a healthly hobby and one in which we should all uptake. however sex is the cause of many of the worlds major problems and is a cause of many atrocities both past and present. rape and peadophillia are direct consequenses of the desire to have sex.
however there is a reason that all these terrible things are resultant from sex and this is because it is so good. it is enjoyable and healthy and really f*cking GOOD! and people are willing to commit crime because it is good. a person rapes another for the joy of sex but one person bieng evil does not make the idea of sex evil.
the problem is people need to control them selves buy a magazine and not hurt people. sex isn't evil its the same as a gun it is what we humans do with it or for it that is evil.

[THanatosX]

if ugly fat chicks walked naked the world would be BAD

[Miriam_Poland]

I think that common opinion comes from deep middle-ages and strict Christian's religion. They were convinced that a woman is a tool of devil and everything that you could do with a woman leads to sin.
In my opinion, sex isn't anything evil, and shouldn't be a taboo. "We are the people", and we have our emotions, physiology, minds, souls, thoughts and desires, as long as they don't harm anyone, they're OK. I think that sex with our partner is an expression of our feelings to them, and it's a good way to unite partners. In my country people say, that "life isn't extra for sex, but sex is an extra for life". I agree. We should enjoy our lives as long as we can. Medically - scientists say that sex is a good way to keep fit and good health - although physical and sanity.
O.K. Enough about sex.
Next topic: Nudity.
I don't mind nudity, because it's natural - the first people were all naked and they didn't mind. So? Nudity isn't evil, too. In ancient Greece was a cult of body. Yeah, naked body. They said that human body is beautiful, because it comes from gods. In renaissance some people restored this cult a bit. They started to show naked body from another point of view - not as a sinful and ugly body as in middle-ages, but as a beautiful gift from God. They also thought that if human body has been given from God, that they should admired it.
I can't understand people who say that nudity is evil. I think they feel ashamed and jealous to those peole we could see it the magazines or in TV. That's all.
Unfortunately I live in country, in which nudity, sex and different sexual preferences are almost cursed - they would like to use sex only for procreation - stupid, damned bastards :[ Note. I didn't meant that I'm homo, but it makes me sick, their hypocriticism and intolerance

[Jack Van Burace]

"If God created everything and put pleasure on sex, y would it b evil?"
This is what u must say 2 moralists ^^

[Delta]

"If God created everything and put pleasure on sex, y would it b evil?"
This is what u must say 2 moralists ^^

Then they just say: "Devil did it". That and "God works in mysterious ways" are 2 answers commonly used when you presnet them with a simple, logical question that their twisted morals bring up.

[Jack Van Burace]

Then they just say: "Devil did it". That and "God works in mysterious ways" are 2 answers commonly used when you presnet them with a simple, logical question that their twisted morals bring up.
You're right! ^^ I'm actually starting 2 believe christianism isn't a monotheist religion, but rather a bitheist religion, as the devil is such a powerfull god aswell. Screw the "only god" story! lol

[dragoneyes001]

Ok! guess we need a history/religion lesson.

1) many societies don't discriminate about nakedness even today.

2) those that do are societies run by their religions which in an effort to separate their followers from the barbarians set forth rules of conduct.

3) these rules in the case of Christianity were governed by bible teachings and the first book in the bible "genesis" is quite implicit about Adam and eve covering their genitals after they ate from the apple. this is one part of the misinterpretation that started many later taboos on human anatomy. the church not only wanted to keep its followers separated from the barbarians but also wanted to instill a form of supplication in its followers the church is superior and sin free the people are sinful and must act accordingly.(wear the clothing that shows your ashamed of the sins of Adam and eve)

4) sex itself is actually promoted by most religions for the sake of procreation over the years some religions made rules about who should procreate (married couples) some dont care who as long as its for procreation.

5) depending on what part of history you look at nakedness was considered perfectly normal: ancient Greece , Rome , Egypt , most of Africa , ancient Aztecs ....etc.... only in the last 200-1000 years or so did the large religions start to make a real fuss about the human anatomy and this is where the separation of the good society and barbarians happens. this is when countries being effectively run by the religious orders were conquering places like Africa where people ran around naked and to make them look inferior they pointed out that polite society would never do that (nice way of treating the conquered like shit or slaves).

6) the whole point is over history religions wanted to separate their followers from the non followers and the most glaring difference was clothing it also created separation of station the better dressed the more important you were. so the naked were the least important. this became the norm so being naked was putting yourself among the slaves and barbarians <<<< bad thing

over the last millenia this has been so ingrained into the society consciousness that it was made into law when people tried to rebel against societies oppression's (like in the 50's & 60's streaking was made illegal in many states) the 40's and 50's were the launch of television and mass media's that allowed for far greater spread of moral rules so they literally made what a select few felt they wanted the rest of society to follow that included the demonisation of sexuality which they felt repulsed by after the roaring 20's and 30's

[Jack Van Burace]

Hey, u just really needed 2 do that, didn't ya? lol, just kidding ;-)

I personally stick whith the belief that religion only exists as a primal way of keeping an agricultural society(hence, a large society, for they had plenty food) toghether whithout clashes and chaos. And in whichever culture sex caused chaos and havoc, religion then forbid it. Complex and yet simple personal explanation ^^

[opticlink]

I see nothing wrong with sex. What is wrong is people that are controlled by this psycology that has become a state of mind. In other words the only thing that is wrong is when people try to use sex for unhonorable reasons.

[Jack Van Burace]

I see nothing wrong with sex. What is wrong is people that are controlled by this psycology that has become a state of mind. In other words the only thing that is wrong is when people try to use sex for unhonorable reasons.
Honor can mean so many things that it doesn't actually mean anything anymore.

[bastett]

For certain religions they feel that the human body is sacred and shouldn't be exploited or shown like that in a public place.

Some people just get offended or shocked by a naked body.

I personally believe that the human body is a beautiful thing and is God's creation. However, I won't be rude to those who are offended. I do agree with you, though. It's insane.

As far as Sex goes I sometimes call it a fetish if you collect alot of Porn or get off by watching a half-naked woman washing a car in the hot, hot, HOT sun... yeah. That's a messed up fetish. I meen, really. Who gets off on stuff like this:

http://i6.tinypic.com/1zmpe95.jpg?

I rest my case.

[izza]

why is it that sex is just a taboo. Why do people get offended if i walk down a street naked? As log as im not in them im not hurting them. Why do people have a sort of fear of naked bodies and sexual conduct. Is it because sex is just a destroyer of emotions. Is sex a homewreaker, is it evil??? no joke i really wanna see wat pple think about the subject.
Hmm... not sure how it became so taboo.. I mean, back in Greece it was completely normal to have pr0n:LOL: plastered all over the walls(kitchens etc.) and kids could walk in and think that's perfectly normal.

Maybe because its a thought that we are now "civilized" and sex is like an animalistic impulse or something.:eek13:

Sex has caused lots of problems so that's probably why its looked so badly against.

[chiking1]

Maybe because its a thought that we are now "civilized" and sex is like an animalistic impulse or something.

Sex has caused lots of problems so that's probably why its looked so badly against.
Yea... it might be that there are problems caused by sex... and maybe because perverts stare at other people when they are nude... so they have to have them actually WORK. lol

[Reefern86]

Here's what it is. People r afraid of their own instinct. Instinct...lust in this case...destroys the thought that we r ABOVE all other beings. If we give in to sex, or lust, then we r giving into the evil that is instinct and THAT is what ppl are scared of. Thus we slap the whole EVIL thing on it and therefore we r better then animals again because WE can resistthen temptation of instinct.

It's all Bull shit, but most ppl need to feel like they r above creation. Personally i beleive sex is in fact Good (opposite o evil..not just fun... ;)). If God...or whoever the hell is up there...gave us lust as an instinct, then of course its good cause that is what we were MADE to do.

That is y im sitting here...BUT NAKED...and writing this in front of my window. Cause GOD told me to....

(that was a jk by the way lol)

[everblack]

hmmm. I dont think there is anybody that can say sex is evil anymore? Does any1 disagree? From what i gathered sex isnt the evil one. People and society 2day are looking at sex from a negative point of view. I knew this already i just wanted YOU to know it. and i think we are all convinced now. I hope you will all be more free with your bodies from now on.
i think this debate is pretty much closed, but if ne1 has some fresh arguments, go ahead.