View Full Version : How much schooling affects our debates?
Jack Van Burace
07-13-2006, 03:05 PM
What kind of education lvl does our debaters have? I c ppl having good arguments, and it really gets me curious to how much diference in schooling there might be between public and private schools, diferent countries, or even if ppl get their information from the internet, which would put everyone whith internet access on the same base (or slightly diferent based on internet speed...). Are all ppl nowadays better informed or just the wiser dare giving their opinion into a forum?
Delta
07-13-2006, 05:26 PM
I've gone to public schools all of my life, but I also read alot on the internet. Public school worked for me, but i've seen some people who it's utterly failed (e.g. someone who when asked how long a quarter of an hour is it takes them 20 minutes and a calculator to figure it out. Or my coworker who told me I was dumb because I said New England wasn't a state.)
Sarteck
07-13-2006, 06:08 PM
I was home-schooled most of my life. Went to Nuclear Power School while in the Navy... then had a few years of tribal college.
How much schooling affects our debates? Well, obviously, it doesn't. Heh. You are going to think you are right, most of the time, regardless of your education level, and therefore it doesn't really affect the outcome of the debate. XD
However, education does contribute to debates in one good way, in my opinion--those with some kind of education past the equivalent of 9th grade tend to use full words more often, and make the debate more readable, rather than substituting "c," "ppl," "lvl," etc. for words. ;)
chiking1
07-13-2006, 07:07 PM
I think that schooling affects our 'ability' to debate. Some people without proper schooling may not be able to argue as well as someone with proper schooling. Even though the person without proper schooling, may have a better reason, they may not win because they cannot explain themselves clearly enough.
Sarteck
07-13-2006, 07:17 PM
chiking, while I understand the point you're trying to get across, I really can't see anyone "winning" most debates posted here. Heh. It's more like we argue and argue and argue some more until we get tired of it, let it rest for a while (in which time the opposing side sometimes considers that as us conceding the point, which in fact we do not).
I was in Russian Mathematica orientated public school. My favorite classes were biology based ones. LOL I was in 9th grade and I took some classes in med. college. I graduated last year.
well I was about to say that school opens you to a wider range of knowledge but as for these debates most of these come from my own knowledge and other sources that i've stumbled upon. =/
Kurai-chan
07-14-2006, 10:26 AM
i am currently studying in a public/government high school and for me, schooling greatly affects our debates. most of the people who are educated tend to have this self-confidence that helps them to deliver their speeches better than how an uneducated man would deliver his. also, having a wider knowledge about different things (the things that they've learned in social studies, economics, and other subjects) would help them to back-up their arguments in a way that they can relate it and expand it for their own advantage.
i think being on a private or public school doesn't really affect our ability to debate because their syllabus and course outlines are almost the same and what the students of private schools are learning are also being learned by those who are studying in a public school.. :)
oh! and i believe that there are those persons who are naturally born as a good debater.. heheheh. XD
SoundWave
07-14-2006, 10:36 AM
Well you need knowledge to be a good debater.. To get the knowledge, you need to have a thirst for knowledge. Does it really matter how you get it?.. It can be through Tv, School, the ineternet etc..
For me it's definately through school, the internet and mostly the tv.
As long as the person really want knowledge, they're going to get it one way or another..
Karakura Red
07-14-2006, 11:02 AM
i think that public schools do give u lots of info and stuff to help us debate on topics
OmNiScIeNt-NaReTrEsS
07-14-2006, 11:59 AM
I've always study in public schools, and it gave me many arguments for this kind of topics. But I also have learned many informations to debate from my parents (like anyone here, I guess).
I thinks its a bit of both school can teach you so much then the rest depends on how much you know on the tpoic at hand
~black butterfly~
07-14-2006, 04:04 PM
i've been in a private school eversince....it really depends though....it depends on the student...because some public school students excel better than the private schooled ones....its just that, in our place, private schools are better equipped with the needed materials and resources...that makes the difference...plus if you're in private school, there is better teaching and learning since there is a smaller ratio of student to teacher.....
Jack Van Burace
07-14-2006, 10:16 PM
Wow, nice ;-) I kind of agree whith everyone here so far. But I've always had doubts of what influenced my opinions mostly. Guess I agree whith the general idea that we actually get information from just anywhere, and that private schools have better resources than public ones, tho not enough to ensure private students from beeing better students than private ones. Thank u all for your opinions, and if no1 has a diferent new opinion to add I believe this thread could b closed ;-)
simple answer, did you school to learn, or did you learned at all in a school? I am the latter, I don't believe public school ever taught shit to me, except for maths and stuff, the important thing is that it must be you, who learned what needs to be learned, morals is of course the most important.
Chouji
07-15-2006, 10:52 AM
School played a very small part in the way i argue if it were not for argueing with my parents i would probably suck so thats the like one thing I got from my parents the way i argue.
dragoneyes001
07-15-2006, 11:40 AM
each debate will have differing sources of information.
like a debate that deals with social issue will differ from a knowledge based debate.
having high levels of education does not automatically include some knowledge of the subject being debated: a nuclear physicist with a doctorate in his field will not necessarily be well informed on a particular social issue.
so in effect schooling can have very little to do with some debates except as sartek pointed out the ability to get your point across through better wording.
yet most debates will be argued on knowledge taken from either experience or information gleaned from one form of media or another.
Koanashi
07-15-2006, 11:51 AM
A lot of the arguements I use in debates come from a variety of sources; a lot of the time, my parents and I debate about random things over the dinner table. Yeah, we're a strange family. Ironically, I usually end using my dad's arguements, simply because they tend to be well thought out than my own.
I also create my own arguements during class discussions (public school, a performing arts secondary school in England if anyone cares), and since I usually hold different views from class mates (and the teacher), these only become more detailed. Though I've still a long way to go before I'm anyway near the standard of some of the debaters here!
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