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maximoose666
07-17-2006, 10:02 PM
I want to help this section out in any way I can, because I love reading the awesome work that's displayed here :) So do you have any suggestions to improve the poetry section? Would you, for example, like a poetry contest or themed event? I could run it along with other C46 members.
So, if you have any ideas, this is the place to post.
emmasu
07-18-2006, 06:58 AM
well, the thing is that i liked the thread that we all post our poems, i liked that more than just posting anew thread for each poem, because in that thread we can communicate more and give comments and talk more about the peoms, relate to each others poem, so why we can not have aplace like this, discussion thread and posting our peoms in it?
sto67
07-18-2006, 07:30 AM
its more organized if you do it thread by thread imo. i mean if you want to talk with everybody you might as well IRC or have a community thread but those are a bit obsolete xD
there really isnt much wrong with what we already have here, its great that poetry has its own forum =]
emmasu
07-18-2006, 07:32 AM
its more organized if you do it thread by thread imo. i mean if you want to talk with everybody you might as well IRC or have a community thread but those are a bit obsolete xD
there really isnt much wrong with what we already have here, its great that poetry has its own forum =]
i mean that i do not like each peom has its own thread
Maxi, I think the idea of having poetry contests and themed poems seem like a great idea. Though people here post poetry because they were moved to, I dont think it'll be a big of a deal to have a themed section every month? However if we do something like that,I'd like for us to have reasonable topics, not like Llama as one of the previous Gotei 13 contests were.
With what em and sto said, I agree with points made out by the both of them. I'm sure you've all heard of DeviantArt. When you want to post a poem, they give poetry genres such as Human Nature. Perhaps we could minimize the number of pages by dividing them into emotions such as anger, fear, romance etc. If you've noticed, most of the poems at the moment portray emotions. The ones previously in the poetry thread (when it first all started) are a mixture of things but I dont think anyone is ready to fish them all out so it shall stay buried in that thread.
Katen Kyoukotsu
07-18-2006, 10:07 AM
Unfortunatly I have not had a chance to post much of my works here. That will be changing tomorow. In the meantime i want to give my opinion on this.
1. Peotry contests both themed and unthemed are a good idea. Competition breeds creativity.
2. Dividing poems into sections by emotions is a bad idea. Many times peoms can display many emotions that change with the person whos reading them. When i tried deviant art a long time ago what imediatly turned me off from it was that i had no idea which section my poem should go in.
3. I wouldnt mind if we changed it so every author has there own thread. There are upsides to this, you could find all of there work easily, the place feels less crowded, and you just sorta have your own space. However i dont mind the current arrangement so its completely up to you whether to change it or not.
4. As far as enmasu comment that he liked when we all posted in one thread. Heres an idea off the top of my head. Every week, or month, or whatever we decided any author who wants to can submit one new or previouslly written poem to a group thread. There we can talk about the poems together and once the compalation was done for the month or week we could do a variety of things with it. Such as get them published in the newsletter that the 9th has been doing(not positive we could do this but i think theyd let us), put them up into a contest of there own, put them up on any other forums that we like, and most definatly at least have an archive thread here were we have all the poems on nice shiny word documents.
There are my ideas please tell me what you think. Peace
Icestorm
07-18-2006, 11:26 AM
i like your ideas Katen about the person having there own thread, i think it is a good idea because mainly not that many poets are here so there wont be that many threads as im sure mods would think.
emmasu
07-18-2006, 11:33 AM
Unfortunatly I have not had a chance to post much of my works here. That will be changing tomorow. In the meantime i want to give my opinion on this.
1. Peotry contests both themed and unthemed are a good idea. Competition breeds creativity.
2. Dividing poems into sections by emotions is a bad idea. Many times peoms can display many emotions that change with the person whos reading them. When i tried deviant art a long time ago what imediatly turned me off from it was that i had no idea which section my poem should go in.
3. I wouldnt mind if we changed it so every author has there own thread. There are upsides to this, you could find all of there work easily, the place feels less crowded, and you just sorta have your own space. However i dont mind the current arrangement so its completely up to you whether to change it or not.
4. As far as enmasu comment that he liked when we all posted in one thread. Heres an idea off the top of my head. Every week, or month, or whatever we decided any author who wants to can submit one new or previouslly written poem to a group thread. There we can talk about the poems together and once the compalation was done for the month or week we could do a variety of things with it. Such as get them published in the newsletter that the 9th has been doing(not positive we could do this but i think theyd let us), put them up into a contest of there own, put them up on any other forums that we like, and most definatly at least have an archive thread here were we have all the poems on nice shiny word documents.
There are my ideas please tell me what you think. Peace
well, about the first idea, i do not like because we write the peoms only to express our emotions, am talking about myself
i do not like the second idea either
i like the third one and the fourth one
*to Katen Kyoukotsu, am agirl*
maximoose666
07-18-2006, 04:39 PM
There's no harm in having a discussion thread, I admit. Problem with the old poetry thread (in my opinion) was that each individual poem didn't get much attention, as people were keen to post their own poems, all in the same thread. With separate threads for poems, it means that each poem gets more attention. However, you can have a discussion/communication thread if you wish. You will have to promise not to spam (ie. keep your posts a decent lengths) but if you just want to sit around in one thread posting and discussing poetry - and life in general, then I see no reason against it. You ould post your poems there if you chose. However, I think that as a good poem often takes hours to write, it deserves a full thread to itself if the author wishes to make one.
I love the idea of publishing a poem in each newsletter; I'll talk to Sarteck about it :) (unless anyone here is in 9th Div already and wants to do so).
If the idea of a themed contest is well received, then we can go ahead with it. As for judges, I can judge with C46 (probably Pylar would do it) if needs be; if you'd be happier being judged by more prolific poets, then if any of you have connections with respected poets on DeviantArt and they will agree to judge, I am happy to let them do it.
Dividing poems into sections - unfortunately I don't think we can do that. It would require a lot of admin work by DB, and because of the way the forum is constructed, it would mean that the many poetry sections completely dominated the Pen and Quill section.
Dont worry about it. Dividing into emotions was actually a pretty bad idea seeing how some poems change emotions inside the poem as well as could portray a different emotion to the reader. I like Katen's 3rd and 4th idea. Each author could have their own thread. It would be easier for members to see the number of poets around then can access their works later. As for putting it in the newsletter, I think its a great idea and an idea worth putting in (i'm in the 9th div btw and I dont think we'll have a problem but have to ask taichou first of course :p:).
Lenne
07-19-2006, 02:16 AM
i'm not a poet on DA, i write on fictionpress.com so if anyone's interested i have a link in my profile^^
i think the idea of a thread for each author would be beneficial, but not the idea of dividing into categories of emotion, and also the idea of posting everyone's poems in one thread, that was what happened before this section was formed and many poems got glazed over without comments. Poems dont always have to follow a certain tone or mood or emotion, as i'm sure someone mentioned before.
Icestorm
07-19-2006, 08:53 AM
yeah agreed, it tends to sometimes change in the poem and it would only get confusing. I really like the idea about the newsletter idea.. that would be cool. I appriciate the attention your showing to this section of the forum because the mods tend to normally not show that much interest so thankyou.
maximoose666
07-19-2006, 11:41 PM
No problem, Ice :)
So... iladys, if you can fix up the newsletter thing with Sar then that would be great, I agree that I don't think there'll be a problem, I've always found him very open to new ideas.
A thread for each author is a pretty nice idea. Go ahead and make your threads when you want =D
Archive thread is a nice idea too, someone make one and I'll sticky it.
As for the contest, it remains to decide on format and on who will judge.
One option is an open vote by CB members; disadvantages of this is that it can sometimes turn into a popularity contest...
Another is a panel of (3?) judges; any of you poets can be in this if you wish, although that would prevent you from taking part in the contest... otherwise I can probably handle it with the help of C46 members or other interested staff/captains.
Final option is thatany of you with connections to other sites enlist high-quality poets from outside to judge. Shizori, if you were able to get members of fictionpress.com to do this, or if anyone on DA was able to enlist the help of a poet or poets there, then this option would also be possible.
I am wondering which of these options appeal the most?
Lunar
07-20-2006, 12:04 AM
ptf, i asked everybody to put all their poems into one seperate thread, everybody said no. its their problem , and as for contests, it could be a good idea to increase more people comming here. theres 3 contests going on atm, i advice u guys to do it later.. the gfx contest, gotei 13, and the fanart contest hosted by tele.
BeeCrest
07-20-2006, 12:15 AM
Separating Poems by emotion/subject/etc. = No. Seems, messy and alot of work for the admins.
I'm up for contests, like SOTW, except maybe monthly.
In the begininng there were two threads of Poetry because there were only 4 people posting consistently, but for a couple of months there have been ALOT more people posting which has been great. Whether we continue to have a poem for each thread with a discussion thread pinned (without spammage of course xD) or have each author have their own thread with all their works, I'm up for either.
And I'm so up for the publishing in the Newsletter :D
Okay, I think I covered everything.....
No problem, Ice :)
So... iladys, if you can fix up the newsletter thing with Sar then that would be great, I agree that I don't think there'll be a problem, I've always found him very open to new ideas.
A thread for each author is a pretty nice idea. Go ahead and make your threads when you want =D
Archive thread is a nice idea too, someone make one and I'll sticky it.
As for the contest, it remains to decide on format and on who will judge.
One option is an open vote by CB members; disadvantages of this is that it can sometimes turn into a popularity contest...
Another is a panel of (3?) judges; any of you poets can be in this if you wish, although that would prevent you from taking part in the contest... otherwise I can probably handle it with the help of C46 members or other interested staff/captains.
Final option is thatany of you with connections to other sites enlist high-quality poets from outside to judge. Shizori, if you were able to get members of fictionpress.com to do this, or if anyone on DA was able to enlist the help of a poet or poets there, then this option would also be possible.
I am wondering which of these options appeal the most?
Hai hai *nods* Shall talk to Sarteck about it. And I've done an article on the Poetry Thread for the newsletter to give a heads up to other members about what's happening ^_^. As for the other ideas, I feel it best to start at the beginning of the next month rather then now cause it'll be all messy here haha. Judging sounds awesome :) I'd rather have it to be c46 and staff/captains cause then you're able to randomise some judges (i hope?).
With what BC said, a SOTM sounds better cause it'd be too rushed to have it weekly. That is all.
BeeCrest
07-20-2006, 12:31 AM
Hai hai *nods* Shall talk to Sarteck about it. And I've done an article on the Poetry Thread for the newsletter to give a heads up to other members about what's happening ^_^. As for the other ideas, I feel it best to start at the beginning of the next month rather then now cause it'll be all messy here haha. Judging sounds awesome :) I'd rather have it to be c46 and staff/captains cause then you're able to randomise some judges (i hope?).
With what BC said, a SOTM sounds better cause it'd be too rushed to have it weekly. That is all.
Starting at the begininng of next month sounds good to get everything sorted out with the contest setup and judging.
And I thought of having a poetry contest earlier, and monthly seems the best for me at least. I'm not sure if I've ever gotten one poem out a week for a continuous period of time XP
Icestorm
07-21-2006, 04:09 PM
I sometimes write like 4 poems in a week, and then none.. but it seems to be an average of 2 to 3 lately.. hmm
maximoose666
07-23-2006, 10:51 AM
Only problem with starting a contest at the beginning of August is that I'm going away and I don't know whether I will have the internet or not over there. If we allow a month for entries, I suppose I could judge when I return... that would mean starting the contest on say the 1st or 2nd of August and Judging on the 1st or 2nd of September - not neccessarily a bad idea, perticularly if we want to bring in other CB members who don't normally go in here. I'll make the archive thread for poems now. Sarteck tells me iladys has done the newsletter article \o/
Katen Kyoukotsu
07-29-2006, 08:13 PM
For the contest how many poems per person would we submit. Just one? And are there any limiting factors like length or subject?
maximoose666
07-30-2006, 10:19 AM
One per person seems the best idea to me. I will set a theme. Length - I'd say it can be as long as you want, but remember that longer is not neccesarily better :p
Well I know I have never posted here, mostly in fear of sharing my work. But Maxi I could be a judge for a poetry contest as well. I am willing to do so, and I have a fair amount of exposure to poetry as you know.
Just thought I would throw this out there, as I am getting ready to brave posting my own work somewhere besides in my division section.
Icestorm
07-31-2006, 10:03 PM
hey i have my own document that has all my poems on it, am i allowed to submit all of them in one post?
maximoose666
08-01-2006, 01:08 PM
In the archive thread? Sure :)
I'm going to set up the contest now. I will judge with the help of Pylar and Ruk; you'll have till August 31st to enter.
Icestorm
08-31-2006, 09:55 PM
ah.. can we have a poetry discussion thread? I need to say some things... god this sucks.. ive feeling im losing my inspiration.. slowly yet surely.. like something I know thats there but is slowly leaving me, just beyond my grasp but going further away.. I feel as if that in all my past poems ive just said what ive needed to say.. and i dont have anything left.. tis so sad
BeeCrest
10-09-2006, 02:42 PM
I can understand why the "Club Bleach poetry contest #2 results!" thread is closed, but why is the "Club Bleach Poetry Contest: Discussion Thread" closed too?
._.
maximoose666
10-09-2006, 02:50 PM
it isn't closed :(
maximoose666
10-09-2006, 02:50 PM
oops
okay, opened it now XD
BeeCrest
10-09-2006, 02:54 PM
I was going to say, it was closed for me and I checked twice to see if I was going crazy. Thank you maxi \o/
Yeah.....I can't remember what I was going to post. Aw well, later XD
With the archieved Thread could we require that people turn off their sigs...Just creates a better atmosphere i think.
/me double posts
Could the contests please get linked in the main annoucments banner on the main forum page..It would make getting into here a hell of a lot easier..^^
BeeCrest
02-03-2007, 07:39 PM
With the archieved Thread could we require that people turn off their sigs...Just creates a better atmosphere i think.
That sounds like a good suggestion, I'll go and edit all the posts later unless maxi would like to tell me an easier way :) I can manage something with the announcements too.
With the archieved thread the poetry mods should be doing this.
Everytime a user posts a new poem they should take the poem and place it in the archive thread.
Something like this.
Mighty Aramir 02-06-2007, 02:53 AM
Threads
Embalmed in velvet vandages
my heart froze and cried.
Another loss, another scar
I can never leave this web of lies.
And then from the sea you arose,
innocent, beautiful, not a single flaw.
Delutions, deceive clouded my mind
that's more than any mortal saw.
But you came and held me in your embrace,
and by the simplest action kissed my sorrow away...
And now I hang by a thread,
a velvet line between life and death.
Your arms turned cold,
so did your heart...
And without a doubt in my mind,
I let go of the line....
This will make the archieve thread an actual archieved thread of all the poems in the Poetry section and make it look neat and nice.
If an admin gets around to it they could create a BB Code that you could automatically put around any poem that would automatically do this..Something like this.
-Poem in here
Rihaku
02-22-2007, 04:15 AM
Poetry. Battles. If the visual arts get an arena the literary arts should receive no less.
Kazmiz
02-22-2007, 12:42 PM
Poetry. Battles. If the visual arts get an arena the literary arts should receive no less.
Seconded:P
Mighty Aramir
02-23-2007, 03:01 AM
i dont like the battles idea... to me poetry is not about competing, its about expressing your feelings and be able to transmit that feeling to the reader...
so to me... not the best ides...
@Ai: why mine?? *covers his face with a paper bag*
Rihaku
02-23-2007, 10:52 PM
Well, don't participate if you don't like it. Poetry is as much technique and form as it is expression, and the drive of competition helps some people get inspired. If it's not your thing, just don't do it.
I'm up for the poetry battles.
Lay it out in the same format as the tag battles and you've got yourself a winner...Make a poem each to the specifications or theme the challenger decides and then wait for votes to come in...
Quick things that don't take a month to complete.
BeeCrest
03-05-2007, 03:23 AM
Would you mind laying out the tag battles in more detail? And the reason for taking so long is the decrease in participants. I'm able to make an announcement in this subsection, but not on the main page which would help. for that. Voting also sounds better than having judges since in the past we've had issues organizing judging into hectic schedules. My schedule personally hasn't been improving for sure :/
Well if you write up how you want it doing Bee, and then post it here and tell me where abouts you want it putting, I'll cover that for you.
Personally, I understand the whole competition inspires idea, but for me, I'm with Aramir on this one, and so I'll just stick to my usual and post whenever I decide to write.
Rihaku
03-12-2007, 02:18 AM
I'll judge. I'm on nearly every day.
Just don't expect tact or mercy.
We could put advertisements in our sigs. Maybe make a (small) banner and require that participants show it in their sig for a week?
You could try asking for Poetry battles subsection as well. The appearance of vitality will create vitality.
BeeCrest
03-18-2007, 08:40 PM
If you're willing to judge then you're hired Rihaku. Personally I've never expected mercy either :)
I also haven't heard from Neve about the current competition in judging, but finally my school work has lightened up, and A2k is willing to help.
Before I write up anything I still want more ideas from people :/
Katen Kyoukotsu
03-22-2007, 08:06 PM
Im willing to get anything. Right now it seems like we have alot of great poets but all of our works hardly get any comments. Its really hard to work on something for a long time and then turn it in and have next to no one comment. We need something to increase traffic to this section.
Rihaku
03-23-2007, 03:16 AM
Yeah, the battles should do that. We have pre-defined themes and stuff and later we can do a tournament.
Hold a monthly poetry of the month comp and then the winner gets their poem posted up in a sticky thread in the lounge for the month..
BeeCrest
05-05-2007, 02:59 PM
Yeah. I still can't think of any prize to give you Ai for winning :< PM me ideas please.
/me throws Ai a cookie
Takashi
05-11-2007, 12:10 AM
I like writting poems especially love poems
A poetry of the week competition...Simply poetry should be chosen and a theme changed each week..
It could be run like the sotw and voting would occur like the old voting system.
BeeCrest
06-12-2007, 01:27 PM
kk, school is basically done for me so I can focus on this.
If we're doing it every week, even every other week I'd like very much to know we will have set judges (preferably two, one can be me) and participants. It sounds like a lot of people want to participate, but in the end we tend to only get a handful.
Don't use judges as they can not turn up or turn out to be bribed..I'd certainly try to bribe them.
Why not just do it like the old sotw voting style..Let the forum users decide the winner?..
^^ I guess it would work, but only if they didnt vote for themselves. But if you let the public decide.
diamondedge
06-21-2007, 06:30 PM
My suggestion is that we PM the entires. Then one of the "judges" posts poll with all entries, and everyone gets to vote. Everyone that votes must post with explanation why members deserves a vote. That prevents corruption and voting based on popularity of the member, because in most of forums I'm on that can be a major influence.
As for the prizes, some rep wouldn't hurt, and I also believe that winner poem should be linked from the index of this CB, so as much people as possible see and join for next contests. Writing is an ART, so I don't see why the ones who master it wouldn't get some publicity.
Only no.1 wins though, for now. If number of contestants increases (even though there is a lot of interest, it tends to decrease dramatically when it actually comes to the real deal), then prizes can go up to top 3.
As for theme - I suggest there is a new one every week. Doesn't really matter which one. Or a title, and each member writes a poem based on just that, and then we compare ideas and vote based on how well the member captured the title.
I am willing to participate or judge if needed. Writing and reviewing is my specialty, which I intend to show once my school is over. ^_^
If any of the original planners likes the suggestions or would like to discuss that with me about elaborating this further, add me to my MSN - dymondedge@hotmail.com (no PM's please as my inbox is too full already).
:)
BeeCrest
06-21-2007, 07:33 PM
My suggestion is that we PM the entires. Then one of the "judges" posts poll with all entries, and everyone gets to vote. Everyone that votes must post with explanation why members deserves a vote. That prevents corruption and voting based on popularity of the member, because in most of forums I'm on that can be a major influence.
As for the prizes, some rep wouldn't hurt, and I also believe that winner poem should be linked from the index of this CB, so as much people as possible see and join for next contests. Writing is an ART, so I don't see why the ones who master it wouldn't get some publicity.
Only no.1 wins though, for now. If number of contestants increases (even though there is a lot of interest, it tends to decrease dramatically when it actually comes to the real deal), then prizes can go up to top 3.
As for theme - I suggest there is a new one every week. Doesn't really matter which one. Or a title, and each member writes a poem based on just that, and then we compare ideas and vote based on how well the member captured the title.
I am willing to participate or judge if needed. Writing and reviewing is my specialty, which I intend to show once my school is over. ^_^
If any of the original planners likes the suggestions or would like to discuss that with me about elaborating this further, add me to my MSN - dymondedge@hotmail.com (no PM's please as my inbox is too full already).
:)
.....Hi. I love you in a friendly manner sort of way :)
I find the voting more appealing since judging can be a pain in getting several permanent judges. If we have people voting though, there isn't much need for judges. What I found most helpful with judges is the comments and critiques they supplied that hopefully help people improve. We could just have it with people pm-ing entries to me so I can set up a poll and the judges simply vote as well with CnC.
I'd say a week for submitting and then a week of judging to keep it going. I'd prefer no longer than three weeks. I'd need at least one judge that can be willing to judge the contests over time, not a few and then take a break and never come back. I know life gets in the way but a little dedication would be nice. A break once in awhile is fine, disappearing for months and saying jack shit is not ok :P
Edit: Well diamondedge no one else seems to have volunteered to help judge (unless I missed a post) and I haven't seen Rihaku or MWS around so you're number one on the list. Would you like to help judge? XD
whoops sorry I want to judge. if that is okay with you.
diamondedge
06-21-2007, 09:29 PM
^^ Yes, i would much rather participate instead of judging, although if you ever need a hand with judging, just ask. :) Or hand with anything else in general that is associated with this project. :)
Artemis
08-02-2007, 10:00 AM
I volunteer for future competitions.
Since I've submitted an entry for this current running competition, I won't be able to help judge. Despite how unbiased I am.
Like I said, I'd love to judge for future competitions.
Just let me know if you need an extra judge. :)
BeeCrest
08-04-2007, 03:05 PM
Meh, we'll see how the voting goes, and then decide whether or not judging or voting is more efficient. The amount of submissions make me happy though \o/
Just going back to a weekly Poetry contest.
The problem with the contest that we have at the moment is that it's too large to be effective..Sure it's great whilst your going to enter and your making your piece then you enter it..But then in the week or two that proceeded that with the wait for the voting to go through it goes stale.
Once again start a Poetry Of The Week Competition. Keep it simple keep it fast so people aren't waiting this long for results.
Setup like the Sotw.
Mon - Fri you can enter. Sat - Sun voting occurs with the 3,2,1 Voting system open to public.
Winner just gets their piece in a hall of fame thread and the winner chooses the next weeks theme. This way it's a quick turn over and it stays fresh..I'd enter each week...It's easy to bang up a piece for it.
Do a trial one to three weeks to see how it turns out..if it produces results then great keep it going if not then you can dump it.
Now That the Potw is up and running and has been for more then ten weeks which obviously in my humble opinion shows that it's working because we're getting at least 5-6 entries each week why don't we have another large contest run at the same time with a special prize for the winner.
The contest could state specifics such as.
- Which style of poetry the user has to use
- The Theme
- The length
and have it judged by a couple of judges instead of voted on so we can get some good and proper remarks and comments on our pieces..
THe contest could be open for a month then another month for the judges to judge it all.
Thoughts?
You do realise if we do this, there will be a total of 3 competitions running?
I admit though that this is a pretty good competition, and it will make the entering poets adapt their style to what the contest specifies. However what about the judging? We'll need some experienced poets as judges to give critique and comments, as well as someone outside of it, but if we do that, won't it stop them from entering the contest? Or should we have a group of judges and switch judges per contest so that they have a chance to actually enter the contest?
I'm not talking about doing this in a row but rather just doing this as a one off thing for the moment to make a big enough contest appear in this section.
As for judges yes the two judges that would be judging couldn't be entering in the contest.
Sort of a monthly contest?
Katen Kyoukotsu
03-18-2008, 06:00 AM
It sounds like a great idea, it has everything that the current poetry contest is lacking at this point. Detailed feedback, judges, maybe a bigger prize. All I know is it ups the stakes and thats a good thing. Also I'd be more than willing to judge for at least one.
(oh and Ai did you notice your poem in my request thread? iladys yours is in the works)
Thanks dude, its great.
Yeah I'll agree with what you guys have said, but Id like you (Ai) to look into it, telling me what you want/need into this contest.
All I need from you is to sticky the thread once i've made it which should be soon, If you could also do the same for the thread in the Poetry corner one as well it would be appreaciated.
Katen Kyoukotsu
03-18-2008, 09:01 PM
So can I ask, what is the poetry corner? I was looking in the thread and it said I had to be a member of something or other to participate.
Poetry corner is found in your groups memberships usercp.
It's a subsection within the poetry section where people write even more poetry and plan to take over the world.
Yeah, its a place where poets can join, and show off their galleries. Its much more extended. Join through Group Memberships :)
Katen Kyoukotsu
03-19-2008, 05:59 AM
o.o when did we get that......oh wells. Anyway I signed up *crosses fingers*
Its been here for about 3-4 months already. I'll accept you now :)
http://forums.bleachportal.net/showthread.php?t=56605
I think that explains quite easily what I suggest..:p..Beecrest and Myself have already started it..But basically anyone is able to challenge anyone else..
Once again I rip off the gfx people..I really ought to apologize to them one day.
For the Potm add that when people submit their poem for the week they also submit a theme for the next week...^^..Like how the Skotm does things..Cause thats fun to see users seeing their theme for the week up.
Once thats going for a while and people are used to it then we can include a style of poetry as well..:p..or we could leave that for the major poetry contests.
Good idea! That would help me out sooo much hahah.
/me envy's the level of organisation that the GFX Area has..
I must because its where i steal half the ideas..I really should compensate them one day..>_>...<_<...
Anyhow Poetry classes except use the name poetry license's to avoid confusion with the GFX Crew..Choose a few people from the Poetry Corner to be Poetry Licensers have a set of rules such as this.
Three different Poetry Classes
- Nub
- Nooby
- Epic Noob
..or if I was being sensible at the moment.
- Learner
- Proficient
- Licensed
Then when people want to be Licensed they make a license thread including three of their best pieces using three different styles of poetry. The crew votes as usual then they get their license.
Would give the poetry corner something to do apart form post in the corner as in to become actively involved in the poetry section. Could create a ladder and you can only battle someone who is higher then you in a license or is on the ladder higher..
That sort of stuff.
Dexter
05-13-2008, 10:10 AM
Anyhow Poetry classes
Sounds like a decent idea. I'm not in the Poetry corner but with a system like this:
- it may create biasness upon voting in a poetry battle (it would be common to believe the person ranked higher is producing greater works than those a rank or two below, even if they are very much equal)
- it won't make everyone seem equal.. ie - the reason people join is to be with those who like poetry and can write, etc, not everyone in the current Corner would want to be involved in yet another hierarchy
Ah well, a point to discuss in the Poetry corner first I think, then take to the general public (and if agreed, admins to implement) once you've reached a unanimous decision within the Corner :)
/me points to the fact that Decado has the wrong suggestions thread for the first bit..
This is the poetry section suggestion thread man..This isn't the general public yet..
O.o...But really..Made me chuckle...:p
Yamamoto
05-13-2008, 10:48 AM
yes let us all point and laugh at him :lol
>.>
anyway, sounds like Aussie's driving license system with your suggestion Ai lol
personally i don't think it's a good idea as poetry is personal and people can/may stick to specific styles and may just want to stick to a particular style or even make a style to go against the usual styles of poetry- like contemporary
Can we make it a rule that if you participate in the POTW contest you HAVE to vote. And to make it more appealing can we get a better system for the prizes?
It's been decided from the moderators that the POTW participants don't have to vote unless they want to. There are people who firmly believe that it should be other people voting for their favourite work as opposed to having forced to vote.
Currently that's the only thing (rep) that can be given to members. What can be done for it could be that I'll ask random PC members/previous potw entrants who did not participate to give you rep. That keeps the number of reps up and also helps decrease the chances of not being able to provide rep.
Dexter
06-04-2008, 07:55 AM
From a thread which has purpose here:
Reputation Raise.
Current reputation levels around the entire forum is on the whole rather large..>_>..Hence the reason the extra Rep blocks were brought in to expand the reputation system for our extended reputations an easier way to solve the problem and make the rep system somewhat new again would be to merely increase the values needed to reach certain block numbers. At the moment all you need is 1500 points to get the full length of rep blocks...Increase this. So say at my current level i'd only have half rep blocks.
^_^...Should be easy to do within the Admin cp.
I like the suggestion. But at the same time I would say that anyone repping for purposeless things is rep abuse, and that's a main reason the rep is so high. Just don't rep someone every week for things.
For example, anyone who wins a Poetry contest has a massive increase in rep every week. This should perhaps be modified with the new rep system, so that only the winner receives any sort of rep. This would make more sense in "cherishing" the power of the rep system.
It was an issue raised by a rep giver of the Poetry competition, so it seems adequete to question the prize of the poetry corner itself.
To win poetry should be acknowledged with rep, as it is deserved as much as other avenues of gaining rep.
However since the issue was with rep itself, it does raise the question: "Is rep being too easily gained in this form?"
/me doesn't mind.
I can easily withdraw my rep as a prize for the potw that then removes third prize as well as significantly decreasing first and second.
I agree with you if only first gets the rep prize then that would be easier.
Though, i support Decs and Ai's position on the system... I think two mods repping the first place winner is sufficient. And the second and third place just go in hall of fame winners.
However i don't think the increase in rep power from the POTW is any different then what goes on in the graffix section with the shops and SOTW contest either. So to fix one you would have to fix the other.
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