End of fillers

[hostseed.com]

When's your speculation of these fillers ending and we get back to Aizen's story?

[Gambit166]

Who knows...

However, people have said that either episode 91 or 93 is going to be the end of the Bounto arc. I'm guessing 93 from the way things are looking atm.

[Nicole]

I wouldn't be surprised if there are other threads on this...

Anyway, I'm thinking around the late 90's/early 100's when there'll be a new opening/ending to accomodate the new arc.

Or there'll be another filler arc. Grah.

[Heroboy]

I bet It will be an other fill :(

[nikuwadoko]

^yeah most likely

[ultimate]

i think somebody said it will be episode 96
I wouldn't be surprised if there are other threads on this...

Anyway, I'm thinking around the late 90's/early 100's when there'll be a new opening/ending to accomodate the new arc.

Or there'll be another filler arc. Grah. yeh i think there were other topics on this

[Littlelegs]

The manga is not far ahead. If they went back the to manga storyline, 20-25 episodes later the anime will catch up to the manga already


Think of it this way.The more fillers now the less fillers later

[hostseed.com]

Who knows...

However, people have said that either episode 91 or 93 is going to be the end of the Bounto arc. I'm guessing 93 from the way things are looking atm.

I don't think it'll end in 4 eps... since currently:


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all the Bound are still alive.

[Gambit166]

They can all die really fast... :whatevah:
Plus, it's what I READ. I personally have no clue when the Bounto arc will end.

[SumDumGai]

Don't get me wrong, I hate fillers with a PASSION. Really, I do hate watching them, but I know the fillers won't end anytime soon. I'm guessing they will end in another 6 months at the earliest, Naruto is still going on with fillers and it's been a year and a half I believe? Trust me, I'd love for them to go back to the original story soon, but they just wouldn't be able to make enough episodes unless they stopped showing the series for a season which they apparantely do not do in Japan.

[nikuwadoko]

6 months? now that's bad..

[~*StÓÑy RèL0ÂÐeD™]

all the Bound are still alive.


not really... the water type bounto and the woman died... but still, i heard that it will end around ep96 instead...

[gdo01]

- Every anime episode covers about 3 manga chapters
- The anime is currently on Chapter 183 (when the fillers started)
- The manga is currently on Chapter 236
- The Soul Society arc was about 42 episodes

The guys in charge would want to have a wiggle room of 15 chapters and would probably want enough material to cover as long as the Soul Society arc (42 episodes) so that means we would have to wait until Chapter 277 which is 41 weeks (10 months) away!!!!!

I guess what they said about Aizen being a year away from perfecting the Hougyoku is true.

If anyone wants to check my math, I used these equations:

42 anime episodes * 3 manga chapers per episode = 126 chapters

126 chapters + 183 manga chapters already aired = 309 chapters of manga

309 chapters of manga + 15 manga chapters wiggle room = 324 total chapters

324 total chapters = 3 chapters per episode * x weeks of TV + 183 chapters already aired
x = 47 weeks of TV

324 total chapters = 1 chapter per week * 47 weeks + y manga chapter
y = 277 manga chapter

[~*StÓÑy RèL0ÂÐeD™]

not really... yur calculation is perfect... with just something... they dont have to wait till chapter 227... when its nearing the end, like maybe chapter 220, the anime can go back to the story.... coz it will take a few eps. to catch up with the manga again right??

[SumDumGai]

- Every anime episode covers about 3 manga chapters
- The anime is currently on Chapter 183 (when the fillers started)
- The manga is currently on Chapter 236
- The Soul Society arc was about 42 episodes
The guys in charge would want to have a wiggle room of 15 chapters and would probably want enough material to cover as long as the Soul Society arc (42 episodes) so that means we would have to wait until Chapter 277 which is 41 weeks (10 months) away!!!!!
I guess what they said about Aizen being a year away from perfecting the Hougyoku is true.
If anyone wants to check my math, I used these equations:
42 anime episodes * 3 manga chapers per episode = 126 chapters
126 chapters + 183 manga chapters already aired = 309 chapters of manga
309 chapters of manga + 15 manga chapters wiggle room = 324 total chapters
324 total chapters = 3 chapters per episode * x weeks of TV + 183 chapters already aired
x = 47 weeks of TV
324 total chapters = 1 chapter per week * 47 weeks + y manga chapter
y = 277 manga chapter
Makes me sad to say but that's probably pretty much exactly what they'll do. Don't want to crush anyone's hopes but it's just reasonable, because you have to wonder what they'll do if they end fillers soon, make 20-30 episodes and then have no material left, make another filler arc? They'd at least have to wait until this manga arc is done unless they could find some way to make another filler arc in the middle of the real arc, which would probably really ruin the story. I REALLY wish they'd give an exact date on when they will continue with the original story, I'm sure it would save myself and many others from all the suspense and ancipation (and don't forget, the upset when we realize the current arc will just keep continuing)

Also, you should change the title of the thread, it makes people think that the fillers have ending or something. :LOL:

[hellrockz]

theres an anti filler arc FC by the way if u hate the fillers

[Littlelegs]

they shouldve waited till the manga reached chp 400 to start the anime

if i start making my own manga and a company wants to animate it into an anime will have to wait til the manga is really far ahead

[SHiKaMaRi]

I don't really mind the fillers, but i don't love it, either. Hopefully it ends around episode 110 or something, and hopefully its not another filler to follow this one. Hope it doens't end up like Naruto ones. >.<

[AzNrIcErZbOi]

- Every anime episode covers about 3 manga chapters
- The anime is currently on Chapter 183 (when the fillers started)
- The manga is currently on Chapter 236
- The Soul Society arc was about 42 episodes

The guys in charge would want to have a wiggle room of 15 chapters and would probably want enough material to cover as long as the Soul Society arc (42 episodes) so that means we would have to wait until Chapter 277 which is 41 weeks (10 months) away!!!!!

I guess what they said about Aizen being a year away from perfecting the Hougyoku is true.

If anyone wants to check my math, I used these equations:

42 anime episodes * 3 manga chapers per episode = 126 chapters

126 chapters + 183 manga chapters already aired = 309 chapters of manga

309 chapters of manga + 15 manga chapters wiggle room = 324 total chapters

324 total chapters = 3 chapters per episode * x weeks of TV + 183 chapters already aired
x = 47 weeks of TV

324 total chapters = 1 chapter per week * 47 weeks + y manga chapter
y = 277 manga chapter

Yes, but I doubt that they will make everyone wait 10 months. Your calculations are right, but the Bleach rates (people watching it) will slowly decrease. They're gonna have to make it sooner than that.

[Buuhan1]

Cause of this massive wait...this is why I got a unshettling feeling Bleach will get a filler ending.

[SumDumGai]

Yes, while I compared it to Naruto myself, the series have been a lot different. Naruto was more than twice as far along in the series when it started it's filler episodes, so Bleach is in moreso danger of losing its ratings than Naruto if the fillers go on too long-we haven't had a lot of time to watch the series. Imagine if the anime went straight to the manga arc and finished that, THEN went on fillers, i'm sure people would be twice as hooked on Bleach and wouldn't mind nearly as much that they were on filler episodes, but we haven't even gotten deep into the Bleach story by only seeing the Soul Society arc (in the anime). So the only thing you can really learn from all of this is that when it comes down to it we really don't have a clue when the fillers will end.

[Littlelegs]

Yes, while I compared it to Naruto myself, the series have been a lot different. Naruto was more than twice as far along in the series when it started it's filler episodes, so Bleach is in moreso danger of losing its ratings than Naruto if the fillers go on too long-we haven't had a lot of time to watch the series. Imagine if the anime went straight to the manga arc and finished that, THEN went on fillers, i'm sure people would be twice as hooked on Bleach and wouldn't mind nearly as much that they were on filler episodes, but we haven't even gotten deep into the Bleach story by only seeing the Soul Society arc (in the anime). So the only thing you can really learn from all of this is that when it comes down to it we really don't have a clue when the fillers will end.


I agree. It's the anime's fault for animating bleach too early. They should waited till chp 400 or something....now there gonna kill the bleach series


same for naruto(not as bad as bleach tho)

[SilverD]

Yes, while I compared it to Naruto myself, the series have been a lot different. Naruto was more than twice as far along in the series when it started it's filler episodes, so Bleach is in moreso danger of losing its ratings than Naruto if the fillers go on too long-we haven't had a lot of time to watch the series. Imagine if the anime went straight to the manga arc and finished that, THEN went on fillers, i'm sure people would be twice as hooked on Bleach and wouldn't mind nearly as much that they were on filler episodes, but we haven't even gotten deep into the Bleach story by only seeing the Soul Society arc (in the anime). So the only thing you can really learn from all of this is that when it comes down to it we really don't have a clue when the fillers will end.

Part of the reason Naruto went so long before using fillers is that the show tends to drag fights out longer a la DBZ =p

[SumDumGai]

Part of the reason Naruto went so long before using fillers is that the show tends to drag fights out longer a la DBZ =p

Yup, definitely true. That wouldn't work for Bleach as well as Naruto though, in my opinion. I saw this because the fights in Bleach are usually more like raw fights, other than Ichigo's inner thoughts that motivate him. In Naruto, usually people flashback to past events before and during fights, etc... You know what i mean?

But the animators should have at least tried draggin it out a little without ruining content, they animated the episodes (other than the first few) exactly as it was in the manga. This would be real good if they had tons of space from the manga but well, they didn't.

[wr80]

If they make a filler arc they should at least make it decent or somehow a semi-filler/story arc where we can get some of the manga story in it.

[nikuwadoko]

If they make a filler arc they should at least make it decent or somehow a semi-filler/story arc where we can get some of the manga story in it.

that's not really a good thing, since it interferes with the true story:whatevah: what I want a a true filler or a true manga arc. by true filler I mean stuff like character development, friendship, humor, and schoolife, that sort of thing.

[greenwave_boi]

ahh these threads about the fillers will never end......ill be so glad when they do animate the manga arc b/c then yall will STOP *****in and whining like yall dont have lives outside of bleach

[~*StÓÑy RèL0ÂÐeD™]

by true filler I mean stuff like character development, friendship, humor, and schoolife, that sort of thing.

tis part i agree... if they make the filler ok, no one will complain.. at least not that much...im sure.. but they had to make sure they wont spoil the manga story..

[Haidaes]

I somehow have a bad feeling in this filler arc ends. There are not alot of possibilities.

1.) They could end the Bleach Anime in a filler ending , which would be somehow a nightmare. I wanted to see the arrancar and vaizards in colour. It would also ruin my wednessdays if there is no more bleach I can watch then :)

2.) They come up with another filler arc. This could be even worse , because it will be hard for them to introduce another strong enemy w/o twisting the charakter-developments even more as they already did. They cant lert Ichigo loose his bankai again , they cant give him his current manga powers either. They also cant just give Ishda his powers back everytime they need something for him. So in the end this possibility would go into the direction of stupid fillers like the ones of naruto. In the first place they tired to tell a story in the early episodes , but now they do nothing but send naruto to random places for stupid childlike missions and waste time. Then since a few weeks they started bringing in strange ending themes which made me doubt that these were really naruto episodes ...

3.) They start a Manga arc again , which would catch up really soon. So they either have to stretch every episode with flashbacks and stuff like that or they will need KT to let some space between certain events that occoured in the anime.

4.) They stretch the current filler arc and let Jin escape and regroup with Aizen or soemthing like that. I think the anime script writers are crazy enough to do so. This in the end would twist the manga story completly but I doub they care ;)

Well we dont know what will happen , but either way I stick to the manga from now on. I get my weekly bleach and dont need to care about some made up stories. This does not mean I wont waqtch and commend them ofc :D

[nikuwadoko]

^ I like #2...#1 is just horrid o.o

[Haidaes]

^ I like #2...#1 is just horrid o.o
I dont really want Ichigo to jump from his schools roof with his pants down and peeing while beeing chased by rukia...
This is basicly what happened in Naruto a few episodes before.:p:

[Kootje]

Well I say they should finish the bounty filler-arc and than continue along the manga, I don't read butt they can't just change the story that would be really lame! Btw does Ishida get his powers back caus in one of the openings(second) I think I see him shooting arrows at Hitsu.....(little captain)

[nikuwadoko]

Haidaes: I wouldn't mind that for about 15 episodes, really.

Kootje: That's the Soul Society Arc, and it has already passed. in the manga he's in the "process" of getting his powers back

[Kootje]

I know but I never saw them fighting so I figured maybe itl come later on, gues not thanks anyway I read the spoiler, thanks for letting me know=P

[nikuwadoko]

Yeah, while watching the Soul Society arc I always wondered when they're going to have that battle. But guess not=p no problem

[Kootje]

uhuh, Sow when are the fillers ending, I like BOunto butt don't want a new arc, it will end up like naruto=S

[nikuwadoko]

people here are speculating...some say 96...some say another filler arc...some say end of Bleach. heha

[gdo01]

One way I see that will satisfy fans and let the manga arc be animated without catching up is to switch back and forth between filler and manga. If the fillers end in the 100s, 40 episodes worth of filler would have bought the manga enough time to show around 25 episodes worth of new arc. So if Bleach started the manga arc in Episode one hundred-something, 25 episodes of the new arc would be animated without catching up. The new arc could then stop at some point for example When Ichigo trains with the vizards to keep his hollow form longer. At that point, the anime can go on another 40 episode filler arc before coming back with 25 new manga episodes. This way we would have filler arcs of decent length with chunks of new arc in between letting the manga go forward and the anime also.

[Littlelegs]

One way I see that will satisfy fans and let the manga arc be animated without catching up is to switch back and forth between filler and manga. If the fillers end in the 100s, 40 episodes worth of filler would have bought the manga enough time to show around 25 episodes worth of new arc. So if Bleach started the manga arc in Episode one hundred-something, 25 episodes of the new arc would be animated without catching up. The new arc could then stop at some point for example When Ichigo trains with the vizards to keep his hollow form longer. At that point, the anime can go on another 40 episode filler arc before coming back with 25 new manga episodes. This way we would have filler arcs of decent length with chunks of new arc in between letting the manga go forward and the anime also.


I like it.....also make them stretch the manga parts to 40 episodes then im good

[Winter-war]

yeah that makes the most sense. im sorry but we have to endure through more fillers to let the manga get further along in the story

[nikuwadoko]

good idea, I think it's the best possibility so far.

[vision33r]

I really dislike the anime production design of Bleach so far. These fillers don't have to exist at all or done the way it is.

Compared to many other successful anime series, I prefer either the rerun older episode or use fillers "in between" the real story episodes to stretch the anime series longer then currently running fillers longer.

Many great animes with large fanbase never had to suffer through fillers the way Naruto and Bleach has had so far. A few other animes such as Kenshin but I cannot remember any other good anime that has fillers this long..

Right now Naruto's fans may start leaving the anime altogether and forget about it since the fillers are starting to kill interest..

I'm starting to get the same feeling about Bleach, I no longer download the anime until 2-3 days later. If they continue the fillers another year, I will abandon it until news of the end of fillers.

[InsaneShiyn]

maybe the movie will fix things up

Well anyways, it's greeeeeat to be back now, such a long time. Wheres my homies ay? Undying!

[IcYxWiNd]

they probably wont get back to the main storyline until the manga gets WAY ahead.

[SumDumGai]

I think an unwritten rule that they will follow is to have the manga be one arc ahead, so the manga will have to finish the current arc it's on. If they start animating it before the arc is even finished, they might add extra things, have characters talk a certain way, or present scenes in a bad way if they don't know how it will sum up at the end.

Basically, I don't think they'd want to start animating an arc without a gameplan if the manga isn't done yet, if they were animating the episodes where Aizen faked his death before he made his appearance after the Ichigo vs. Byakuya fight, they could have screwed up scenes and made it so that his return didn't make 100% sense. Also, i think they try to record the voices for the entire arc at the same time (not necessarily the same day but you know what i mean) so this could also cause problems. If you looked at it in the shoes of the people who produce it, it probably just makes complete sense to do 1+ years of fillers to give them a very large cushion, i'm sure they don't want to be pressed for material space and risk having the show pulled off the air because they can't continue it without the manga getting farther ahead. It will be worth it once the episodes are animated!

I don't see the current manga arc ending anytime soon so I hate myself for saying but they definitely should and probably will make a whole new filler arc. However, they don't necessarily have to make a whole new team of bad guys because well... they really aren't good at that, this whole Bountou thing is ridiculously corny, i would definitely not want to see that happen again. What they should do is try to make some more casual episodes without shinigami other than Ichigo, but i don't know if they could keep this up for 6+ months. So, well, good luck to the filler team. I hope they don't let us down.

[Littlelegs]

I think an unwritten rule that they will follow is to have the manga be one arc ahead, so the manga will have to finish the current arc it's on. If they start animating it before the arc is even finished, they might add extra things, have characters talk a certain way, or present scenes in a bad way if they don't know how it will sum up at the end.
Basically, I don't think they'd want to start animating an arc without a gameplan if the manga isn't done yet, if they were animating the episodes where Aizen faked his death before he made his appearance after the Ichigo vs. Byakuya fight, they could have screwed up scenes and made it so that his return didn't make 100% sense. Also, i think they try to record the voices for the entire arc at the same time (not necessarily the same day but you know what i mean) so this could also cause problems. If you looked at it in the shoes of the people who produce it, it probably just makes complete sense to do 1+ years of fillers to give them a very large cushion, i'm sure they don't want to be pressed for material space and risk having the show pulled off the air because they can't continue it without the manga getting farther ahead. It will be worth it once the episodes are animated!
I don't see the current manga arc ending anytime soon so I hate myself for saying but they definitely should and probably will make a whole new filler arc. However, they don't necessarily have to make a whole new team of bad guys because well... they really aren't good at that, this whole Bountou thing is ridiculously corny, i would definitely not want to see that happen again. What they should do is try to make some more casual episodes without shinigami other than Ichigo, but i don't know if they could keep this up for 6+ months. So, well, good luck to the filler team. I hope they don't let us down.


I agree...i dont mind the fillers...if naruto can survive 80+ filler episodes....so will bleach(bleach filler > naruto filler)

after that we should have a year with no fillers

[prelude]

If another filler arc is introduced to bleach after the bountos then i am sure that it will be far worst than the cuurent one.i am afraid that we are going to be stuffed with fillers at least for another 3 months. :(