English voice cast example... listen...

[lordgilpin]

My friend Dallas hasn't watched any anime but 'Bleach' and therefore doesn't have a clue what these new voice actors sound like... so I made a video clip for him to watch. It's on youtube under 'Bleach english voice cast' if anyone else would like to see it... It's not the greatest but it served it's purpose.

[gdo01]

My friend Dallas hasn't watched any anime but 'Bleach' and therefore doesn't have a clue what these new voice actors sound like... so I made a video clip for him to watch. It's on youtube under 'Bleach english voice cast' if anyone else would like to see it... It's not the greatest but it served it's purpose.

All I get is a naruto parody. You should put a direct link

[lordgilpin]

I couldn't post the link before because I didn't have enough posts... Here it is-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyvTA2mv2UU

[SumDumGai]

That was funny... Very interesting though, gives you a little insight on what it will be like. I'm actually surprised with Rukia's voice, i think she could do very good in the role. Ichigo, well I'm not sure. I think that voice actor did well on the Trigun role, hopefully he just isn't too goofy as Ichigo. Ishida, I think his voice sounds horrible unless he can make his voice less of a fake cartoon character voice. Inoue, well I have no idea.

[lordgilpin]

Inoue, well I have no idea.

Inoue sucked, I could only see her speak those two lines... the sound is real low and... I don't know, I'm feeling pretty optimistic about the voice cast...

[SilverD]

I've heard worse... It's okay, but I'll still take subs over dubs anyday.

[TXPanda]

the only reason why i watch subs is because anime distribution companys over here are such cheapasses they wont hire real voice actors. most of the voice acting is done in house by ppl who normally work on other stuff. I live about 5 min drive from funimation in tx, and i cant tell u how many times I wanted to drive down there and lay hands on them. as an actor who has worked in LA I would have to say that i find the voice actors in america inept and weak. and this clip just demonstrates all the more reason why subs are the way to go. :)

[FreedoM]

Urgh... I really don't like Ishida's VA..

[NiGHTS]

they seem to be alright, except Ishida. That voice isn't fitting at all

[Kun-Acey]

I just need to be very HONEST. . . these voices suck. Well actually the one change that I MIGHT make would be giving Derek Stephen Prince Ichigo's voice instead of Ishida (his voice seems to match Ichigos alot better).

[nikuwadoko]

I think they're all okay, except for Ishida's. It cannot possible compare to his original Japanese VA. argh.

[*Hollow*Ichigo]

That was funny... Very interesting though, gives you a little insight on what it will be like. I'm actually surprised with Rukia's voice, i think she could do very good in the role. Ichigo, well I'm not sure. I think that voice actor did well on the Trigun role, hopefully he just isn't too goofy as Ichigo. Ishida, I think his voice sounds horrible unless he can make his voice less of a fake cartoon character voice. Inoue, well I have no idea.
I TOTTALLY AGREE IM LAUGHING DED NOW LMFAO HE SOUNDS SO INNOCENT UNLIKE ICHI!!!

[Pipp-ORK]

Orihime's awful.

The first thing I thought about was the craptacular ENGLISH!Aerith for KH2 and Advent Children. Go phlegm!

[Apocalyptic Angel]

Orihime's awful.
The first thing I thought about was the craptacular ENGLISH!Aerith for KH2 and Advent Children. Go phlegm!

LOL oh gawd, I agree, Aerith's voice was so terrible, just made me cringe everytime I heard it.

I'll probably just not even watch the dub. xD I'm too attached to the sub voices, so I'm happy to just be oblivious to any others.

[nikuwadoko]

They better do a good job with Renji..!

[Pipp-ORK]

Yeah; they've already butchered Ishida and Orihime, while Rukia sounds like a flower girl, so they'd better make Renji's voice awesomely COOL to make up for it. ;.;

APOCALYPTIC: Haha, yeah, when she made her appearence in KH2, I nearly cried. :cussing:

[Savage Dragon]

well this should be interesting cant wait to get home and hear these

[FallenOne158]

I didn't like any of them, "it's supposed to be in japanese, if not, screw it" - quote from a fellow Bleach fan. Enough said...

[gdo01]

I didn't like any of them, "it's supposed to be in japanese, if not, screw it" - quote from a fellow Bleach fan. Enough said...

If someone had not dubbed an anime years ago, you wouldn't even care about Bleach now.

[lordgilpin]

They better do a good job with Renji..!

I recieved a phonecall today- They're wanting me to do Renji's voice... LOL!

[Winter-war]

damn that was ok and i dont know about ishida VA he kinda...isnt for right that part

[hamano_amon]

it's GREAT!!!!!
GREAT JOB!!!!
ya know ,if only the screens is more coherent ~~
maybe the problem of my bandwidth ?

[Anima]

Well, it could be worse, really
but i don't like ishidas voice...i think it would be better for ichigo...
Orihimes voice is kinda scary o_O

[Winter-war]

i think the dub will turn out alright

[Kagebu]

Some of you people have to remember: the video put together was a collection of clips of the voice actors performing other characters. Bosch intends to go deeper than Vash for Ichigo, Ruff is going to play Rukia as a detached, otherwordly character, and Sheh is going to put energy behind her Orihime, nothing like her protrayal of Hinata. I think using Hinata's voice was a bad representation of the kind of voice Orihime will have. If you had a clip from Fooly Cooly, her Mamimi voice would probably be closer.

I'm looking forward to this dub, because I believe most of these voice actors will do great as their respective characters. The only character I'm really worried about is Ishida, mainly because of Derek Stephen Prince's attitude toward voice acting as revealed in his interview.

Anyways, neat video, though I think it would have been better if you'd have used actual video clips instead of still pictures. That would have helped us visualize close to how the end product may wind up. I, myself, already put together a little clip of Lex Lang as Renji, something I'm crossing my fingers for.

[hamano_amon]

ishida....should he be a Baritone it will be better?

[someGOD]

Ichigo was bang on most of the time. Im just happy he isn't Inuyasha! Rukia seems a little off, her voice in the un dubbed version seemed to have more of a womenly quality, this is more teenage girl. Ishida is very good too, which surprised me. I had no idea what Ishida could sound like before this.

Now, Inoue. Using the hinata voice actor seems just wrong to me. Ah well. Should be good anyway, I know i'll watch!


[EDIT: The hell? The forum ate my post, and dropped it off around 20 places after I posted this ugly thing... W/e

[hasuke]

Guys, you ****ing realize these are not the voice tones to be used by VAs?

Johnny Bosch himself said he's going to be extremely agressive for Ichigo (and not using his Vash tone). ****, they even say 'these were taken from trigun" in the beginning.

Just remember. VAs can do many voice tones. Not everyone is like David Lucas (using Spike's voice for damn near every chara). Wait until the dub ACTUALLY airs.

I HIGHLY doubt Ishida is going to have ****ing Zazie's voice.

EDIT: Kagebu beat me to a post like this. Props to you. Lex Lang as Renji, I personally don't know if that'd work for him. People are talking about David Lucas/Steve Blum for Renji. (Either way, chances are those two will be in the dub SOMEHOW)

I, personally, would like Scott McNeil to do Renji, however he's not in the LA area so that'll never happen D:

[HomieDas]

well if the voive ov trigun goes the3 same way ichi will be a riot bit the other voices im not sure about yet ill have to wait til it comes out on Adult Swim

[Dark-Kaomi]

I think Ichigo and Rukia will be alright though they are a bit high and flighty, but that was for different characters. If they act a little more adult and lower their voices a little it should be okay. The voice actor for Ishida also did Koenma in Yu Yu Hakusho as well as Okamoto Katsushiro (the blue haired one) from Samuria 7. He has a pretty good range and I think he'll do better than what is predicted. As for Inoue, I'll have to hear her in action before I pass judgement. Over all I think these guys will do a pretty decent job. Though true, the JVA are much better than the EVA's but we'll just have to deal with this. I wish the stupid companies would stop skimping on real voice actors even if I like these ones.

[hasuke]

Stop skimping on real voice actors? Define that please.

Johnny Bosch may be an arrogant self absorbed douche, but he's a damn good VA. AND he likes Bleach and is following the manga, meaning he understands how Ichigo acts. I have faith in his work.

The other VAs aren't too well known, but they've done good work. You just need to stop comparing their voices to the japanese ones (and stop beleiving that the tones they use in other series will be carried over. ZAZIE'S VOICE IS NOT GOING TO BE USED FOR ****ING ISHIDA, AND ORIHIME ISN'T GOING TO HAVE HINATA'S VOICE.). look at the dub, and accept it for what it is. A new spin on it.

I've been going on for pro-dub for so long, it's starting to get tiresome. Just remember this basic fundamental:

In Japan, voice acting is on par with real acting. It's been a big part of their society for a while now. In America, voice acting was something for cartoons and children's shows. It's taken less serious here (and the pay is nothing impressive). However recently, voice acting has been taken more seriously.

But here I go, rambling on again...

[Dark-Kaomi]

Many companies just use voice actors that are around, rather than finding ones that fit the character or actors with better experience because it's cheaper.

I have nothing against English dub and on many animes I prefer it. I am just saying that the Japanese voice actors are really good for this anime and I don't think that the English will be as good for this series. I'm not saying they'll be bad, just that the JVA is better this time around.

I probably shouldn't take this personally cause I don't think you were talking directly to me but anyway.

That's what I said, the tones are different for many characters. I doubt it will be as bad as everyone thinks.

[Tsukasaa]

i dont want rukia to have a calm voice like byakuya's. Its just not right for her

[T_Ichigo]

RUkia's and Ichigo's fitted well, but Ishida's and Inoue's :S especially Ishida's .. the voice sounds like a character from pokemon or Digimon, I don't really remember, but the way he talked really reminds me something about that :S

[hasuke]

RUkia's and Ichigo's fitted well, but Ishida's and Inoue's :S especially Ishida's .. the voice sounds like a character from pokemon or Digimon, I don't really remember, but the way he talked really reminds me something about that :S


....You didn't read my two posts, did you?

I don't know if people saw this since they keep treating these voices like these are voices to be used for the charas, buuut.

THESE ARE NOT THE VOICE TONES TO BE USED FOR THE CAST. THESE ARE THE VOICES OF OTHER CHARACTERS, NAMELY THOSE FROM TRIGUN AND NARUTO. ISHIDA WILL -NOT- SOUND LIKE ZAZI THE ****ING BEAST. ORIHIME WILL NOT SOUND LIKE ****IN HINATA.

[*Hollow*Ichigo]

ummmm....just watch it first i know how u feel i thought the whole shit suked..

[HomieDas]

well either wai it wont matter but voice acting is bigger here in the states than you think not many have seen the faces behind them and a lot of toon companies pay a shitload of cash for voiceovers its not going to be like the anmiated transformers movie with lenord nemoy doing voiceovers.

[cowchpotato258]

i very strongly agree with hasuke.
GIVE THEM SOME SLACK, THATS WHY THEIR ALLED ACTORS!

anyway i think the cast is great except rukia should be a little deeper.

Also i think Old Man Zangetsu should be voiced by whoever played Hohenheim Elric (Ed's Dad) in the english dub of fullmetal alchemist

[Guy]

Ichigo--Wow, better than I thought. Nice job. He should do a decent job.

Rukia--the actress got her attitude right but her voice is too high. She sounds like a girly girl getting angry, and not a tomboy getting mad.

Ishida--crap. Just downright crap, like everyone else said.

Inoue--OMG!! This is the worst.

[hasuke]

Ichigo--Wow, better than I thought. Nice job. He should do a decent job.
Rukia--the actress got her attitude right but her voice is too high. She sounds like a girly girl getting angry, and not a tomboy getting mad.
Ishida--crap. Just downright crap, like everyone else said.
Inoue--OMG!! This is the worst.


READ MY POST WITH THE GIANT LETTERS YOU ****ING IDIOT.

http://forums.bleachportal.net/showpost.php?p=685968&postcount=35

[Guy]

OMG, aren't u a rude one? I'm sorry, but I don't pay attentions to a maniac's opinions.

[hasuke]

Opinions? No, it's fact. These aren't the voices. Why in god's name would they choose the Zazi The Beast voice for Ishida, when they were made at Johnny Bosch (a person who FOLLOWS bleach's manga) for making Ichigo sound TOO agressive. They have a general idea of what characters sound like. They're not gonna have Ishida sound like a character with a voice/tude that doesn't match. Of course, the lot of you are so focused on dub hating that you can't see through your idiocy and realize the logical truth.

I'm not rude, just sick of all this douchebaggery that's come up since Bleach's dub cast was announced.

[Krad Etrof]

OMG the voices are horrible. Rukias voice sounds raspy and U-G-L-Y

[Slasher]

I think I'll actully wait for the dub to air on Adult Swim before doing any judging on the dub cast.

[hasuke]

I think I'll actully wait for the dub to air on Adult Swim before doing any judging on the dub cast.

HOLY SHIT WE GOT A SMART ONE HERE! I'm so happy T_T

[HomieDas]

easy there hasuke they think what they hear is what they are going to get. calm down a bit they will see in dec.

[+KuSaKaBe+]

Nobody should judge the VAs of the dub when they haven't even seen it yet, we should see for ourselves if we like it or not when it is released. And the voice clips doesn't all of the characters will sound exactly like that. For example Orihime's voice will not sound like Hinata, as Orihime's voice isn't anything close to that.

[Guy]

Hasuke apparently is a very rude person who does not respect other ppl's opinion. English dub SUCKS! I have NEVER seen a SINGLE anime in which English dubs were good. If u think u have, please tell me. I'll see it for myself. There is no need to invest in a falling market and be optimistic about its future.

[LegendaryXM90]

+++++++++ To all of Hasuke's posts.

You guys base too much off of one sample. These just give you a general idea. Why do you think they're PROFESSIONAL voice actors? BECAUSE THEY CAN CHANGE THEIR VOICES. Do you think Stephanie Sheh walks around all day speaking in voice of like 3 DBs (decibles - measurments of sound - for those of you who don't know). NO.

Geez, don't act like you know everthing before you even see the dub. I'm sure it will be good.

[hasuke]

Hasuke apparently is a very rude person who does not respect other ppl's opinion. English dub SUCKS! I have NEVER seen a SINGLE anime in which English dubs were good. If u think u have, please tell me. I'll see it for myself. There is no need to invest in a falling market and be optimistic about its future.

Saying dubs suck on the grounds that they're dubs isn't so much an opinion as much as it is you being a ****ass talking jibberty jabber nonsense.

if you havn't seen a good dub, you havn't seen Fullmetal Alchemist, or Cowboy Bebop (Cowboy bebop's dub being so good that SHINICHIROU WATANABE, THE ****ING CREATOR, SAID HE LIKED IT BETTER THAN THE JAPANESE TRACK, AND THE VOICES SUITED THE CHARACTERS BETTER THAN THE JAPANESE ONES.) And how are dubs a falling market? They're actually skyrocketing and getting better. Of course, you're just another dub hating dumbass with your head shoved so far up your ass you only see your dilluded fantasy world.

I may seem rude, but I'm nto rude to everyone. Just morons. You sir, are a moron.

(CHRIST HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO POST THIS STUFF. I SHOULD TYPE UP A HUGE RANT ON WHY DUB HATERS ARE RETARDS AND HAVE THE MODS ****ING STICKY IT.)

EDIT: and thanks to the people who support me. Glad to see people agree with my LOGICAL points. Despite them being filled with profane rage and capslock.

[LegendaryXM90]

Yes.

[not really]

I do agree with you. I personally have watched like all of CN's Naruto's so far. Then I went and downloaded 10 subs. I think the subs suck IMO.

Japanese versions aren't always better (like hasuke said), like in the case of FMA (FTW) and Cowboy Bebop.

[hasuke]

I don't like Naruto at all. However, hearing the dub compared to the sub, the dub is NOT BAD AT ALL. People may call me an elitist because I talk shit and try to proove my points (which are damn near always right)

But these people are the real elitist shitheads. LOL I HATE DUBZ CUZ JAPANESE IS BETTER. Well if Japanese is so great and stuff, STOP SPEAKING ENGLISH. Go take some Japanese classes. Seriously.

[LegendaryXM90]

4/5 posters in this thread wish to move to Japan for the anime/manga and getting into adult stores when you're underaged... (lol Naruto ep. 2) >.>

[Sanzora]

Well that was insightful, though I will have to admit I don't know if I can actually picture it properly without seeing the voices match something coming from the characters themselves... I prefere dubs... It sticks to the original feel and intention

[Namzie]

i dont kno whether 2 laugh or cry!! That un-explainable!!

[gdo01]

To everyone who wants to see dubs die, let me ask you this:

What was the first anime you saw?

Was it dubbed or were you an overly patient 10 year old who wanted to read subtitles off the bottom of a screen?

Would you have watched anime if you hadn't seen this dubbed anime?

Would the show have even been imported to the USA or Europe if anti-dub people had gotten their way?

Would the anime have gained popularity on sub-only especially when the anime catered to teens to young adults (low attention spans)?

Will anime continue to be popular in the USA or Europe if dubs all dissappear?

Without dubs, will anime decline to the point only a few otaku downloading subs in the middle of the night will be the only fanbase anime has in the Western world?

Anti-dubbers should remember how they first got to know anime and if they really love anime, they should love the fact that Bleach will get a bigger fan base, encouraging the creation of new animes in Japan and new sub+dub DVDs here in the West.

[HomieDas]

point well said

[hasuke]

No, you see, dub haters are stupid japanophiles who will NEVER admit to getting into anime because of a dubbed series. They'll swear they saw a subbed anime or a raw anime and understood it. Yet when you ask them to say something Japanese they'll sputter off random japanese words into some mongled sentance.

Anyways, good post gdo01.

I'd hate to repost this, but some people don't get the ****ing hint, so here goes.

THESE ARE NOT THE VOICE TONES TO BE USED FOR THE CAST. THESE ARE THE VOICES OF OTHER CHARACTERS, NAMELY THOSE FROM TRIGUN AND NARUTO. ISHIDA WILL -NOT- SOUND LIKE ZAZI THE ****ING BEAST. ORIHIME WILL NOT SOUND LIKE ****IN HINATA.

[Guy]

Bleach will not get a very big fan base if it's gonna air at half past midnight, even if it's on Saturdays. Even those who could stay up late might not be able to stay up that late to watch it.

To Hasuke: I haven't seen Cowboy Bebob yet, but FMA's English voices aren't good. Apparently, you must be a lawyer for a dub artist. How can you say Naruto's dub voices aren't half bad? They are HORRIBLE!!!!! The fact that u called me a "f-ing idiot" before even knowing proved that you, sir, are a bigot. You are intolerable of other's opinions. Have I ever cuss at you for thinking dubs are good?

[FlashingYoruichi]

Dubs are necessary but I prefer the Japanese voice actors as they suit the characters better than the American ones... Unless you use the voices from Team America, like Kim Jong Il :redbiggri

[Guy]

Dubs are necessary but I prefer the Japanese voice actors as they suit the characters better than the American ones... Unless you use the voices from Team America, like Kim Jong Il :redbiggri

Dubs may get ppl to know anime, but that's about it. There was a user above who asked the first time when we see an anime, was it dubbed or subbed? Well, to be truthful, it was dubbed. BUT, I hated it. (It was Pokemon, then later it was Yu-Gi-Oh)

Later, my friends showed me where I could watch FAN SUBBED versions of Full Metal Alchemist. That was when I started to enjoy anime. Later, I watched more anime, all of them SUBBED. I decided to give dubbing another chance by watching FMA and Rurouni Kenshin dubbed. They both sucked. Later, I watch Naruto dubbed and that killed all faith I had in English dubbing.

[hasuke]

Bleach will not get a very big fan base if it's gonna air at half past midnight, even if it's on Saturdays. Even those who could stay up late might not be able to stay up that late to watch it.

FMA's English voices aren't good. Apparently, you must be a lawyer for a dub artist. How can you say Naruto's dub voices aren't half bad? They are HORRIBLE!!!!!

First off, how do you think Samurai Champloo, FLCL, Inuyasha, and all the other godamned AS anime got so popular here? NO ONE ****ING KNEW WHAT FLCL WAS BEFORE AS AIRED IT. No one really liked SamCham until AS aired it. Now everyone loved it. And all these series aired after midnight.

FMA'S english voices aren't good? Bam. Anything you say has no credibility anymore. As far as I'm concerned, you seem to be some weeaboo douchebag.

And what the **** does being a lawyer have to do with being a dub actor?

[Guy]

First off, how do you think Samurai Champloo, FLCL, Inuyasha, and all the other godamned AS anime got so popular here? NO ONE ****ING KNEW WHAT FLCL WAS BEFORE AS AIRED IT. No one really liked SamCham until AS aired it. Now everyone loved it. And all these series aired after midnight.
FMA'S english voices aren't good? Bam. Anything you say has no credibility anymore. As far as I'm concerned, you seem to be some weeaboo douchebag.
And what the **** does being a lawyer have to do with being a dub actor?

I guess you have poor reading skills. I said you must be a lawyer FOR an English dub actor, not a lawyer and an English dub actor at the same time. Lawyers are opportunists who use others' misfortunes to earn money in a trial. It was suppose to be an insult, but I guess since that sarcasm is way above your level, it's no wonder you didn't catch that.

Actually, everything YOU say has NO CREDIBILITY. you flame others because they have a different opinion. *sighs* What can I say? You're nothing more than a mere maniac. No one I met in my whole life has ever flamed a complete stranger just because they have a different opinion. *applauses you* You're a first.

[FlashingYoruichi]

First off, how do you think Samurai Champloo, FLCL, Inuyasha, and all the other godamned AS anime got so popular here? NO ONE ****ING KNEW WHAT FLCL WAS BEFORE AS AIRED IT. No one really liked SamCham until AS aired it. Now everyone loved it. And all these series aired after midnight.
FMA'S english voices aren't good? Bam. Anything you say has no credibility anymore. As far as I'm concerned, you seem to be some weeaboo douchebag.
And what the **** does being a lawyer have to do with being a dub actor?

^ Issues.

In reply to guyklc, I completely agree with you about the dubs, Yu-Gi-Oh and Naruto were terrible. All the women sounded the same in Naruto and don't even talk to me about Yu-Gi-Oh.

[hasuke]

Oh, whaddya know, I made a mistake (mark these day down, guys. My flawless being made an error :{ ) and misread your post. I couldn't tell because of all the other crap you type up. No, I'm not a lawyer. I'm just not some japanophile idiot who hates on dubs because the voice acting is allegedly bad. You wanna hear bad voice acting? Pick up some older dubbed anime. Ya know those jokes in shows about speed racer and how they talked weird? yeah, thats how dubs were back in the day.

If you shut off your weeaboo sense, and listen to the voices as they are, not comparing them to the original, you would find out they're not that bad. Of course, god forbid someone defile something as flawless as a Japanese dub
track.

And it's not that I flame you for having a different opinion. I flame you for being an idiot. "THE VOICES SUCK! THEY WERE HORRIBLE!" on what grounds? Are you a talent agent? Do you know what voice acting takes? Do you have the ear to determine who is good or not? Do you know who else auditioned for the role and COULD have gotten it, and sound a whole load worse?
I just hate dub haters because they hate dubs on the grounds that they're dubs. It's retarded. The voices in many recent dubs are not bad. Sure, there are still some terrible dubs. But many aren't bad. And christ, Yugioh's is terrible because

A) It's dubbed by 4kids.
B) It's ****ing yugioh. It was terrible to begin with.

And one more point.
STOP POSTING IN ENGLISH! START POSTING IN JAPANESE WITH SUBS!
EDIT: OH SHIT, HERE'S A CONCEPT! DON'T LIKE THE DUB? DON'T ****ING WATCH IT. KEEP DOWNLOADING YOUR POORLY FANSUBBED EPISODES (yeah, Dattebayo ****ing sucks at subbing. Thats a fact) AND CONTINUE TO THINK YOU'RE A TOTAL BADASS CUZ "U HAET DUBS!"

[Guy]

^ Issues.
In reply to guyklc, I completely agree with you about the dubs, Yu-Gi-Oh and Naruto were terrible. All the women sounded the same in Naruto and don't even talk to me about Yu-Gi-Oh.

Thank you, FlashingYoruichi, for agreeing with me. You see, Hasuke? Did I or FlashingYoruichi ever flamed you for having a different opinion?

[hasuke]

Thank you, FlashingYoruichi, for agreeing with me. You see, Hasuke? Did I or FlashingYoruichi ever flamed you for having a different opinion?

You know what started all this shit? You people not ****ing realizing that the voices in the stupid youtube video will not be the dub voices. OF COURSE, WHO CARES, EVEN IF THEY USE BETTER, MORE ACCURATE VOICE TONES THEY STILL SUCK CUZ THEY SPEAK ENGLISH!!1!1!!!!!1shiftone!1!

I flame because I get frustrated. Frustrated with idiocy. Dub haters come in acting like they're some kind of badass for hating dubs cause english dubs are a horrible sin against man. Yet 99% of them can't even SPEAK japanese. They have to rely on ILLEGAL PIRATED SUBTITLED EPISODES. Of course, I've posted agaisnt dub haters so many times I've stopped putting effort into my posts.

This thread is getting way off topic. So how about we both just shut up before shit gets real ugly.

[FlashingYoruichi]

Well I'm not really a dub hater, I liked the pokemon dub, but in general dubs don't suit the characters in my experience. No offence to Americans but the dubs are usually too whiney and 'American', as a Brit I like our English accents more.

[hasuke]

Well I'm not really a dub hater, I liked the pokemon dub, but in general dubs don't suit the characters in my experience. No offence to Americans but the dubs are usually too whiney and 'American', as a Brit I like our English accents more.

haha, oh wow. So if they sounded like a bunch of british people you'd like dubs more? (not trying to sound like a troll here, this is a serious question.)

[FlashingYoruichi]

haha, oh wow. So if they sounded like a bunch of british people you'd like dubs more? (not trying to sound like a troll here, this is a serious question.)

Yeah pretty much, I like our accents. I like the American dubs but sometimes they are too... erm... throaty and annoying (brings back memories of Naruto and Yu-Gi-Oh)

[hasuke]

Well considering Naruto is a show about a bunch of pre-teen shithead brats trying to be "ninja", I think being throaty and annoying kind of works :B

[Guy]

Erm... no, if the English dubs didn't disappoint me all the time, maybe I'd be optimistic about this. Look at how much they disappoint me. They disappoint me so much that I have to watch pirate versions. My god, even pirate versions are better than subs in my humble opinon! That's really sad...

[TwilightFlower]

For everyone who keeps stressing that these voices do not sound the way the official Bleach voices will:

Yes the voices will be slightly different. The overall pitch and maybe some of the quality will change. But there's only so much a person can do with his or her voice. A lot of people seem to be having issues with Ishida's VA and I completely agree. He sounds a lot more like Ichigo than he does Ishida and I doubt very seriously that he can change his voice enough to pull off Ishida's personality. His voice sounds too brash and aggressive, not because of the emotion or emphasis in his words but because of the natural qualities of his voice. Someone in a previous post listed some of this guy's other roles. I haven't checked them out yet but I'll try to find some clips on youtube.com. Maybe he can pull it off, but at this point, I'm doubtful.

[Guy]

The problem with English voice actors is that they aren't professionals unlike the Japanese. In Japan, they have special seiyuu college. To be able to graduate from them is consider an honor. This is unlike the Western world, where everyone believes anime is just a cartoon for two year olds.

[TwilightFlower]

^That may have something to do with it, but in this case, I don't think that's necessarily the problem. I think Americans tend to think that all teenage guys should sound something like Ichigo. This is a problem because Ishida is nothing like Ichigo. Therein lies the conflict.

[buituyenjr]

bohahahahah the english sound dubb is something really different from japanese... honestly it's cool, yeah cool! but i still like japanese with english subbed more :D
@hasuke: would you please put ur signature's pic in spoiler or sth?

[hasuke]

Erm... no, if the English dubs didn't disappoint me all the time, maybe I'd be optimistic about this. Look at how much they disappoint me. They disappoint me so much that I have to watch pirate versions. My god, even pirate versions are better than subs in my humble opinon! That's really sad...

They disappoint you cause you have high standards. Also, stop THINKING THE VOICES IN THIS ****ING CLIP ARE GOING TO BE USED IN THE GOD DAMNED DUB. JESUS TAP DANCING CHRIST.

For the 9000th time, THESE ARE NOT THE VOICES TO BE USED FOR THE CHARACTERS.

[Angel_shikigami]

Wah, I can't watch it cuz youtube is DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[TwilightFlower]

Hasuke, we are all well aware that the VA's will change their voices a bit to suit the Bleach characters. You really don't have to yell at us. We get it. What you don't seem to get is that we can tell that some of the VA's don't seem to match their characters' personalities. Fro instance, Ishida's VA doesn't match his personality at all. I understand that he won't use the voice from the Naruto clips for Ishida. The clips do give us an example of his voice nonetheless, and they tell me, at least, that the VA's voice doesn't seem to have the qualities I would expect Ishida to have. It isn't a matter of thinking the clips will be Ishida's actual voice. It isn't a matter of comparing the English VA's to the Japanese. It is a matter of hearing a voice and thinking that it doesn't match a character's personality. That is my opinion. Other people on this thread have similar opinions. Just because they don't match yours or just because you are choosing to wait until the show comes out to make your judgement doesn't mean that we can't have our opinions. You need not yell at anyone for having a different opinion than you.

[lordgilpin]

Hasuke, we are all well aware that the VA's will change their voices a bit to suit the Bleach characters. You really don't have to yell at us. We get it. What you don't seem to get is that we can tell that some of the VA's don't seem to match their characters' personalities. Fro instance, Ishida's VA doesn't match his personality at all. I understand that he won't use the voice from the Naruto clips for Ishida. The clips do give us an example of his voice nonetheless, and they tell me, at least, that the VA's voice doesn't seem to have the qualities I would expect Ishida to have. It isn't a matter of thinking the clips will be Ishida's actual voice. It isn't a matter of comparing the English VA's to the Japanese. It is a matter of hearing a voice and thinking that it doesn't match a character's personality. That is my opinion. Other people on this thread have similar opinions. Just because they don't match yours or just because you are choosing to wait until the show comes out to make your judgement doesn't mean that we can't have our opinions. You need not yell at anyone for having a different opinion than you.
I concur- Everyone is entitled to thier own opinion... Ishida's is the ONLY one I think I won't like and it's NOT because of the stupid 'childish' inflection he uses... It's just because he has some very big 'shoes' to fill...
On a side-note: I can't believe this 'shitty' clip has gotten such a response on youtube. Does anyone know of anyone making a better one as I had hoped?

[S.J.Shinigami]

i dont think ichigo's voice fits him that well

[LegendaryXM90]

There is still a lot of debate on who should/will be Renji...

[Guy]

Hasuke, you need to grow up. You see anyone else yelling and losing control on this forum? Not even the ppl who support ur idea is losing their temper.

[Token1337Guy]

Hasuke, you win infinite points for finally saying "weeaboo" in a topic that, up until then, was sadly missing the term.

As for Ishida's VA, I think he did Shino in the dub of Naruto, and if I recall correctly he did it fairly well. You'd be amazed (actually, judging from some people's reactions, blown away) by what a voice actor and do with their voice. Watch the dub and see.

[TwilightFlower]

Alright, I checked YouTube and found a Naruto clip with Shino in it. Based on this, I think this VA could get Ishida's attitude right, but one thing about his voice struck me. Shino seems to require a smooth voice, but at times, the VA came across as a little bit rough. Not overly so, but a little bit. I'm still unsure of how Ishida will turnout in the dubs but I'm willing to give the guy to benefit of the doubt for now.

[Guy]

Alot of ppl have problems with Ishida...

[cynicalplushie]

At first they sounded fine.

But good lord, something inside me involuntarily cringes. I think I'd tire of Michelle Ruff's voice very quickly. Despite my initial reaction of accepting it as a good portrayal.

I'll be sticking with fansubs. Oh lordy.

[Biolink]

Cool.Ishida's VA=Ken/The Dark Emperor from the Digimon Adventure 2 anime.Didn't recognize Rukia or anybody else's VA though.

Ichigo's is the most recognizable.I think the voice fits pretty well.

[FullMetalGhost]

when I first heard Johnny Young Bosch acting out Vash the Stampede I was annoyed because I didn't think it fit his character especially after the awesome Japanese voice acting. Plus cartoon network just didn't do Trigun justice. After a while I became more accustomed to his voice. Watching this video made me feel that he could do a great job as Ichigo...he even sounds similar to the Japanese actor. Rukia was ok, I'm hoping Michelle Ruff can do her justice, but she sounds promising. Ishida's actor, Derek Stephen Prince, I'm sure will change how he acts for Bleach. My biggest issue is Orihime's voice, Stephanie Sheh. I hate what she's doing with Hinata on Naruto. I'm hoping she improves on Naruto immensely and she better not make me change the channel when Orihime is on screen. She has some powerful scenes!!

[ichigo547]

I think the dubs are actually going to be good. I, for one, am more of a fan of the dubs than subs. The subs are all right, but the words kind of get in the way if you think about it. Also, in dubs, you can actually understand what they're saying. This is just my opinion. One more thing. To the dub haters: if you hate the dubs so much, stop watching them! You guys act like retards when you do that. What's the point of watching the dub if you know yourself you're not going to like it? Just stick to your subs and we dub lovers will stick to our dubs. Simple as that.
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[Kzimask]

AHHHHHH Ishida's eng voice is demented!!!!! :O
Honestly Japanese voice actors are much more suited for Bleach...

[Night Prowler]

What do you think the voice actors are so untalented that they can only do one voice 0__0??!

[ichigo547]

Hasuke, we are all well aware that the VA's will change their voices a bit to suit the Bleach characters. You really don't have to yell at us. We get it. What you don't seem to get is that we can tell that some of the VA's don't seem to match their characters' personalities. Fro instance, Ishida's VA doesn't match his personality at all. I understand that he won't use the voice from the Naruto clips for Ishida. The clips do give us an example of his voice nonetheless, and they tell me, at least, that the VA's voice doesn't seem to have the qualities I would expect Ishida to have. It isn't a matter of thinking the clips will be Ishida's actual voice. It isn't a matter of comparing the English VA's to the Japanese. It is a matter of hearing a voice and thinking that it doesn't match a character's personality. That is my opinion. Other people on this thread have similar opinions. Just because they don't match yours or just because you are choosing to wait until the show comes out to make your judgement doesn't mean that we can't have our opinions. You need not yell at anyone for having a different opinion than you. That's because you watched the sub versions. I'm pretty sure that if you watched the dubbed version first and saw the subbed version second, you'd think that the Japanese voice actors wouldn't fit.
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AHHHHHH Ishida's eng voice is demented!!!!! :O
Honestly Japanese voice actors are much more suited for Bleach... If you don't think you're going to like the dub, don't watch it, idiot.
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when I first heard Johnny Young Bosch acting out Vash the Stampede I was annoyed because I didn't think it fit his character especially after the awesome Japanese voice acting. Plus cartoon network just didn't do Trigun justice. After a while I became more accustomed to his voice. Watching this video made me feel that he could do a great job as Ichigo...he even sounds similar to the Japanese actor. Rukia was ok, I'm hoping Michelle Ruff can do her justice, but she sounds promising. Ishida's actor, Derek Stephen Prince, I'm sure will change how he acts for Bleach. My biggest issue is Orihime's voice, Stephanie Sheh. I hate what she's doing with Hinata on Naruto. I'm hoping she improves on Naruto immensely and she better not make me change the channel when Orihime is on screen. She has some powerful scenes!! Trigun's English voice acting was perfect. Well, at least you got accustomed to it, anyway. Also, Hinata's voice fits well in my opinion.
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What do you think the voice actors are so untalented that they can only do one voice 0__0??! I argee. You can't know how the dub will go just by listening to a different voice the voice actor's using. That's just dumb.
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Alright, I checked YouTube and found a Naruto clip with Shino in it. Based on this, I think this VA could get Ishida's attitude right, but one thing about his voice struck me. Shino seems to require a smooth voice, but at times, the VA came across as a little bit rough. Not overly so, but a little bit. I'm still unsure of how Ishida will turnout in the dubs but I'm willing to give the guy to benefit of the doubt for now. We'll just have to wait and see, won't we?
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Hasuke apparently is a very rude person who does not respect other ppl's opinion. English dub SUCKS! I have NEVER seen a SINGLE anime in which English dubs were good. If u think u have, please tell me. I'll see it for myself. There is no need to invest in a falling market and be optimistic about its future. You truly are ignorant. Full Metal Alchemist, Trigun, Samurai Champloo, and IGPX have great dubs! It's like I said before. If you don't like the freakin' dubs, don't watch them then, dumbass!

[Delta]

Hopefully we'll be getting some idea of what the voice actors will sound like not long from now, I just found this on Adult Swim News (http://www.adultswim.com/williams/news/082106/index.html#7):

Bleach Promo in the Works!

After the success of the Trinity Blood promo, which aired earlier this week, Adult Swim is readying another anime promo, the second in as many weeks. Bleach, which premieres full-length on September 9, will receive a thirty-second spot in regular rotation promoting the show.

"I wish it could be going better," said promo editor Nick Day. "I'm kind of sick right now. But it's coming together." Other Williams Street employees share Nick's enthusiasm. When asked if he were looking forward to the Bleach promo, bump-maker Hamid Raoof could only say "It's very exciting. I'm expecting a lot of action from the promo. Maybe a little humor, too."

"I'm very excited," said anime guru Kim Manning. "I hope to see action, lots of good moodiness, because there's a lot of moodiness. Some monsters, I don't know. From the Spirit World."

We asked Nick what his plan was for the promo, and what he thought of Bleach in general. "It's pretty good. It switches animations sometimes, from all serious and dark to kind of goofy. But I'm trying to do a little narrative in the beginning...then some action. Some shots of Hollows. Stuff like that."

However, the creation of the promo is not without its challenges. "Cahill thinks we need more tapes," Kim confided. Nick was quick to agree: "Four episodes isn't really enough for a good promo. But we never have enough."

"It'll be good," Kim declared. "Cahill makes a good promo." We then told her it was actually Nick making the spot. "Well, maybe not so much."

In spite of the success of the Trinity Blood promo, Nick feels a bit like the underdog. "I just want the fans to like one of my promos. They never like any of them. But then, they never like anything. At least with this one I'm using real music, not library stuff, something people might recognize if they're into Drum and Bass. 'Broken Sword' by EVOL INTENT."

Nick expects the promo to be finished before the end of the week, but as yet there is no concrete date for its premiere. "I like anime," Nick said when asked if he was a fan. "I used to be really into it. Then when I started working here I got into it again. I really like the darker stuff, all the fighting. We don't get that with the comedy shows. Action man, that's me."

[Z-man]

GOD MAN THERE ENGLISH CAST IS USLEASE. ESPECIALLY ICHIGO'S AND RUKIA'S

:sad:

[orochimaru7810]

i really dont like orihimes and i think that ishidas could be just alittle better, but i really liked rukias so far thats the best one

[Sandal-Hat]

You know I was thinking about all of this, and a good match for Urahara Kisuke would be the voice actor that does Kakashi on Naruto. And as for the other characters, I noticed how Rukia has a sort of low voice for a female--much different from Inoe's voice. So, the dub voice for her should match that same low level.

[ManjiSTP]

Even though they were probably doing slightly different voices, they were still picked because of the voices they've done in the past. Therefore there will be some relationship between their previous work and Bleach.

Frankly, they were all shockingly bad. It cheapened Bleach so ridiculously - it felt like god damned Digimon or something. Also, to any Americans that didn't like it: Imagine what you feel about it then time it by ten, because I'm English and I can tell you that it sounds even worse in an unfamiliar accent. Rukia sounded like she talked through her nose like Roseanne Barr.

And to any Americans that did like it: Obviously it's fair enough for you, but imagine if all anime was dubbed by people with French accents or English accents... I have nothing against the American accent over any other accent, but when almost everything features a character saying "Gee dude this totally sucks ass!" every other line it really grates, especially if it's one of the more whiny American accents. ;_;

It's like if you got Bleach and it was dubbed with French accents and Ichigo said "Oo' iz zis laddee in ma rhum? Rhukeear you zay? And what iz a...zingammee?" you would just not be able to take it seriously...

[Riddle]

Well, if the SS arc starts I hope they're gonna use these voices:
w ww.youtube.com/watch?v=MUBYcGtPbXQ
Especially Ichimaru's! And Ichigo's is really awesome, too.

[gigguk]

Ok, reading through this thread I find it unfair that dubbing is being viewed at so negatively, and I would like top make a few points that I would appreciate if some of you dub haters read this:

1. Everyone here will have watched the subbed version of bleach before they watch the dubbed version. Now most people aren't adaptable enough of hearing two different voices come out of one body so this creates a bias towards the first voice they hear...which is usually the japanese version.

2. This has been said before, but these are just voice clips from the actors previous work, this is NOT the final version and so this does not mean that the end product will sound like what we have heard from this video. Remember that these are voice ACTORS, and it is their job is to change their voice to the best of their abilities in order to suit a character.

3. You shouldn't judge a dubbing on how accurate the voices sound to their japanese counterparts. This is just unfair because as I have said in point one, you create a bias towards the japanese voice, and just because the english voice may not sound like the japanese voice, this is no reason to start bashing the english voice. A better comparison IMO, is if you compare what you imagined everyone's voices would sound like if you ever read the manga.

Anyone who says that no good dubs exist has either just not watched enough anime, or is just completely unadaptable and arrogant. Everyones entitled to an opinon, but if you decide to start bashing dubs, at least give some reasons why you don't like dubs instead of saying something like:
English dub SUCKS! I have NEVER seen a SINGLE anime in which English dubs were good. If u think u have, please tell me. I'll see it for myself. There is no need to invest in a falling market and be optimistic about its future.

[ichigo547]

Ok, reading through this thread I find it unfair that dubbing is being viewed at so negatively, and I would like top make a few points that I would appreciate if some of you dub haters read this:
1. Everyone here will have watched the subbed version of bleach before they watch the dubbed version. Now most people aren't adaptable enough of hearing two different voices come out of one body so this creates a bias towards the first voice they hear...which is usually the japanese version.
2. This has been said before, but these are just voice clips from the actors previous work, this is NOT the final version and so this does not mean that the end product will sound like what we have heard from this video. Remember that these are voice ACTORS, and it is their job is to change their voice to the best of their abilities in order to suit a character.
3. You shouldn't judge a dubbing on how accurate the voices sound to their japanese counterparts. This is just unfair because as I have said in point one, you create a bias towards the japanese voice, and just because the english voice may not sound like the japanese voice, this is no reason to start bashing the english voice. A better comparison IMO, is if you compare what you imagined everyone's voices would sound like if you ever read the manga.
Anyone who says that no good dubs exist has either just not watched enough anime, or is just completely unadaptable and arrogant. Everyones entitled to an opinon, but if you decide to start bashing dubs, at least give some reasons why you don't like dubs instead of saying something like: You absolutely right. Ignorant narutards don't like the dubs for exactly those reasons.

[Guy]

Anyone who says that no good dubs exist has either just not watched enough anime, or is just completely unadaptable and arrogant. Everyones entitled to an opinon, but if you decide to start bashing dubs, at least give some reasons why you don't like dubs instead of saying something like:

Um, I actually have watch quite a few animes. And English dub sucks. If honestly, you think FMA and Cowboy Bebop are examples of good anime, then guess what? You have only two proof.

I guess I can also say, "All worshippers of English dub obviously have not seen Naruto, Rurouni Kenshin, Yu gi Oh, Card Captors Sakura, Pokemon, and Digimon." There, I just gave a whole bunch of examples of sucky dub animes. Any more questions?

[ManjiSTP]

2. This has been said before, but these are just voice clips from the actors previous work, this is NOT the final version and so this does not mean that the end product will sound like what we have heard from this video. Remember that these are voice ACTORS, and it is their job is to change their voice to the best of their abilities in order to suit a character.

But as I said, these guys were chosen for the moods and tones of their voice (based on previous work). They really, really can't act. It's so awfully tacky and wooden. If you say they can it doesn't mean they can; it just means you have low standards, I'm afraid. All those samples were sub-school play.

[ichigo547]

Um, I actually have watch quite a few animes. And English dub sucks. If honestly, you think FMA and Cowboy Bebop are examples of good anime, then guess what? You have only two proof.
I guess I can also say, "All worshippers of English dub obviously have not seen Naruto, Rurouni Kenshin, Yu gi Oh, Card Captors Sakura, Pokemon, and Digimon." There, I just gave a whole bunch of examples of sucky dub animes. Any more questions? Guess what, you ignorant, stupid ****! I have seen those dubs and they're actually good! YES, I ****ING SAID IT! THEY'RE GOOD! DON'T ****ING ASSUME EVERYTHING, DIPSHIT!

[Guy]

English voices are so awful, no wonder most Americans don't like Anime. I once saw a documentary on an Asian channel once about how difficult it was for Japan to import anime into America. They say the biggest challenge was that most Americans treat anime like cartoon. Since the english voice cast is so crappy, it's no wonder. English voice actors should treat anime like anime, and not like cartoon for two year olds.

[gdo01]

English voices are so awful, no wonder most Americans don't like Anime. I once saw a documentary on an Asian channel once about how difficult it was for Japan to import anime into America. They say the biggest challenge was that most Americans treat anime like cartoon. Since the english voice cast is so crappy, it's no wonder. English voice actors should treat anime like anime, and not like cartoon for two year olds.
Its ironic that you don't know that your very opinion of dubs makes it even harder for anime to be imported. Anime grew in this generation of viewers thanks to exposure by dubs. O well, good luck trying to hook the next generation of American anime fans. You're only going to be left with the 40 year old men downloading subs at midnight once dubs fall, thanks to intolerant people like you.

[ichigo547]

English voices are so awful, no wonder most Americans don't like Anime. I once saw a documentary on an Asian channel once about how difficult it was for Japan to import anime into America. They say the biggest challenge was that most Americans treat anime like cartoon. Since the english voice cast is so crappy, it's no wonder. English voice actors should treat anime like anime, and not like cartoon for two year olds. What the **** is your problem? They do treat it like anime! Besides, that Asian channel crap was THEIR OWN OPINION, DUMB****ER! Don't just say an opinion is a fact, you narutard! It's anime people that masturbate to anime porn like you that pisses me off!

[Guy]

Well, ichigo547, ppl like you are not gonna make the anime industry any better. You know, they say that a good arguement is whoever can hold their temper the best. Since you are screaming at me for having a different opinion, I guess it's cause you have no confedence in your own words.

Oh and btw, if you say all those animes have good dubs, then I guess you're a dub worshipper. I'm a dubhater, and I can say that YOUR opinions are ignorant.

[ichigo547]

Well, ichigo547, ppl like you are not gonna make the anime industry any better. You know, they say that a good arguement is whoever can hold their temper the best. Since you are screaming at me for having a different opinion, I guess it's cause you have no confedence in your own words.
Oh and btw, if you say all those animes have good dubs, then I guess you're a dub worshipper. I'm a dubhater, and I can say that YOUR opinions are ignorant. You're calling me ignorant, you narutard? Don't let your arrogance cloud your judgement. Besides, whoever made a stupid rule like that? Also, don't call me a dub worshipper. The name sounds retarded like how you think an opinion is a fact. In my opinion (notice how I'm not saying it's a fact like a certain somebody), I'd rather see it dubbed because I can understand it. Subs are all right, but the words get in the way. Also, I have much confidence in my words. I'm just not sure about yours. Also, if you really are a dub hater, as least give a good reason why you hate them. Such ignorance.

[Guy]

I think arrogance has clouded your better judgment. OK, fine, I take that back. You're not a dub worshipper. You're a lawyer who works for the dub industry. You think anime dubs are good, I think they suck. It's an opinion. If you don't know what opinion means, why don't you look it up in the lexicon?

You only understand it if it's dub? I guess you can't read then, right? Because sub means "words written in English that translates what the Japanese are saying at the bottom of the screen". Oh well, not surprising. You and Hasuke both have reading comprehension problems.

[ichigo547]

I think arrogance has clouded your better judgment. OK, fine, I take that back. You're not a dub worshipper. You're a lawyer who works for the dub industry. You think anime dubs are good, I think they suck. It's an opinion. If you don't know what opinion means, why don't you look it up in the lexicon?
You only understand it if it's dub? I guess you can't read then, right? Because sub means "words written in English that translates what the Japanese are saying at the bottom of the screen". Oh well, not surprising. You and Hasuke both have reading comprehension problems. First off, don't call my judgement arrogant, all right?! I'm talking to an arrogant person, am I? First off, I can ****ing read, dipshit! A hell of a lot better than you, obviously. I just think that reading them and looking at the video feels awkward. Also, I'm no ****ing lawyer, shit for brains! I think you're a lawyer for the sub industry. So why don't you just put away all of your crappy opinions, which you think that are facts, and back off? Stick with your subs I'll stick with dubs and subs(sometimes)

[Guy]

. So why don't you just put away all of your crappy opinions, which you think that are facts, and back off?

A better question would be: Why don't YOU put away YOUR crappy opinions? You think I enjoy reading your responses full of profanity? Is that how you debate, by swearing at your opponent? Where were you brought up, in a dog house? Or a gambling house? Or maybe even a prostitution house?

[ManjiSTP]

Look, the reality is that the US companies treat all anime like pokemon and aim it squarely at 12 to 15 year olds. As such, tacky VAs with obvious voices ("moody!" "heroic!" "cute!" etc) are drafted in, furthering the association of anime with whiny snotty-nosed brats...

I've met loads of Americans and none of them had voices as whiny as anime dub voices... I don't get it. It's like they all pinch their noses and do an impression of a valley girl.

[Guy]

Maybe it's a cultural thing. Well, I mean America culturally believes all animation are "cartoons" for little kids. Therefore, all the voice actors act silly and informal. I think if America starts opening up REAL seiyuu colleges just like Japan, things may be different. But seeing how America couldn't care less about this industry, well, I guess not.

[TwilightFlower]

I somewhat agree with ManjiSTP. Dub voices sometimes sound like they're just trying too hard. Also, pacing is an issue with dubs. The English VAs have to attempt to fit an English line to Japanese animation. Sometimes i feel like lines get really rushed to try to get everything to line up. It ends up sounded cheap and fake.
However, this is my opinion and other people here have their own opinions. Please do not scream at each other because of differences of opinion. It's really unnecessary and crude. Save some face, suck it up, and at least try to agree to disagree. If you can't do that, then please don't post because I sure don't want to read that and I don't think other people really want to read it either. Also note that this is a generic statement not aimed at anyone in particular. It seems to be a recurring problem in this thread. Don't not jump on my case after reading this post.

[Guy]

Twilight Flower, I don't scream at my opponents. Yes, I've said some rather rude comments, but I've never swore at anyone. I'm sorry if I've drove you or other readers away, but mainly the people who are fans of dubs are not making it any better.

[ichigo547]

A better question would be: Why don't YOU put away YOUR crappy opinions? You think I enjoy reading your responses full of profanity? Is that how you debate, by swearing at your opponent? Where were you brought up, in a dog house? Or a gambling house? Or maybe even a prostitution house? There you go again thinking that your opinion is fact. And you call me arrogant. Besides, the reason why I'm swearing is simply because I can and I want to. I just want you to back off. Also, who are you to say something like "Where were you brought up, in a dog house? Or a gambling house? Or maybe even a prostitution house?" You've gotta be a total ignorant fool to think like that. Besides, it seems to me that you like thinking that you're superior to other people. That leads to isolation and destruction. Just to let you know. Also, I'm done arguing. I'm tired and I have other better things to do than to debate with someone as shitheaded as you. I'm out.

[Guy]

*applauses and cheers* YAYZ!! Ichigo547 is gone! Now this thread will be profanity-free once more! No more maniacs for the moment, until more arrogant dub lovers appear, but hopefully that won't happen for a while. It's a shame you're not back tho, because you won't know the fact that ppl who swear as much as you are usually gangsters who get high on drugs and die of overdose. I also imagine if that's how you talk to your boss...

[ichigo547]

I somewhat agree with ManjiSTP. Dub voices sometimes sound like they're just trying too hard. Also, pacing is an issue with dubs. The English VAs have to attempt to fit an English line to Japanese animation. Sometimes i feel like lines get really rushed to try to get everything to line up. It ends up sounded cheap and fake.
However, this is my opinion and other people here have their own opinions. Please do not scream at each other because of differences of opinion. It's really unnecessary and crude. Save some face, suck it up, and at least try to agree to disagree. If you can't do that, then please don't post because I sure don't want to read that and I don't think other people really want to read it either. Also note that this is a generic statement not aimed at anyone in particular. It seems to be a recurring problem in this thread. Don't not jump on my case after reading this post. I argee. guyklc should stop trying to get people to hate subs.
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*applauses and cheers* YAYZ!! Ichigo547 is gone! Now this thread will be profanity-free once more! No more maniacs for the moment, until more arrogant dub lovers appear, but hopefully that won't happen for a while. It's a shame you're not back tho, because you won't know the fact that ppl who swear as much as you are usually gangsters who get high on drugs and die of overdose. I also imagine if that's how you talk to your boss... There you go again, thinking your opinion is fact...Also, people who swear a lot aren't usually gangsters that get high on drugs and die. Besides, the reason why I was cursing was because I was angry. I'm sorry if I offended you in any way, guyklc. You stick to your subs, and I'll stick to my dubs. I just want to clear this up. I'm not really a fan of cursing, despite the display I've shown to the forum. I am once again sorry for that. See ya, guyklc and everyone. I'm gonna go relax. Let's just end the argument and get on with our lives and I promise I will never curse on the forum again, guyklc.

[Guy]

I think you should stop cursing at other ppl with different opinions, but you're going to hell, so I don't care about you anymore.

[ichigo547]

I think you should stop cursing at other ppl with different opinions, but you're going to hell, so I don't care about you anymore. I don't use cursing as ordinary language, but what can you expect from a person that thinks their own opinion is fact? guyklc, I've apologized for all the things I said, so stop saying bad things about me, all right? I'm not going to hell and don't plan on going there (but it seems like you do with your dumb pride). No way. All right? Just cool down with the insults, all right?

[Guy]

All right fine, I'll drop this idiotic arguement.

[ichigo547]

All right fine, I'll drop this idiotic arguement. Thanks, man. I appreciate it.

[TwilightFlower]

Ok guys. That is enough. You are just needlessly attacking each other now. If you really feel the need to do that then pm each other or something and let's get back to the actual point of this thread. And please don't attempt to use my posts to back your own opinions. Just stop, please.

Edit: Just saw the last two posts. Thank you for putting this to rest.

Back to the topic at hand:
Some of the VAs sounded decent. Rukia's was a little bit more high-pitched than I expected but it's not really bad and I think it could work for her character. Orihime's was really soft-spoken in the clip provided. However, the VA could easily adjust to fit Orihime by speaking up and maybe pitching her voice down just a tad. Ichigo's isn't bad. But I still am not really sure about Ishida's. It's not that I'm comparing his voice to the Japanese VA or anything. I just don't know that he can acheive some of the smoothness and finesse that I think Ishida's voice should possess. Anyone else care to share their thought on this?

[Mount Gay]

LOL it made me laugh, hopefully they change there voices (atleast some of them). Well the guy who does Ishida can change his voice a lot (based on other roles) so hopefully he changes from that clip. But we'll see hopefully its good.

[Guy]

A lot of ppl have problems with Ishida's voice. Well, I don't know the actor well enough to actually judge him, but other ppl who do know him says that he might not do a good job.

As for Orihime, someone many posts back already said that using Hinata's voice was a bad idea. Now that I think about it, I agree. Hinata and Orihime have two different personalities. I'm pretty sure the voice actress won't use the same voice for Orihime.

[ichigo547]

Ok guys. That is enough. You are just needlessly attacking each other now. If you really feel the need to do that then pm each other or something and let's get back to the actual point of this thread. And please don't attempt to use my posts to back your own opinions. Just stop, please.
Edit: Just saw the last two posts. Thank you for putting this to rest.
Back to the topic at hand:
Some of the VAs sounded decent. Rukia's was a little bit more high-pitched than I expected but it's not really bad and I think it could work for her character. Orihime's was really soft-spoken in the clip provided. However, the VA could easily adjust to fit Orihime by speaking up and maybe pitching her voice down just a tad. Ichigo's isn't bad. But I still am not really sure about Ishida's. It's not that I'm comparing his voice to the Japanese VA or anything. I just don't know that he can acheive some of the smoothness and finesse that I think Ishida's voice should possess. Anyone else care to share their thought on this? They should've gotten Yuri Lowentral to do Ishida, but they assigned him to do Keigo Asano. That would've been a better pick (in my opinion), but there's nothing we can do about it, unfortunately. Well, for me, I'll just have to wait and see.

[TwilightFlower]

I don't know. I can kinda see Yuri Lowenthal doing Keigo. I think he fits the part. But yeah, we'll have to see.

[gigguk]

But as I said, these guys were chosen for the moods and tones of their voice (based on previous work). They really, really can't act. It's so awfully tacky and wooden. If you say they can it doesn't mean they can; it just means you have low standards, I'm afraid. All those samples were sub-school play.

No, they wearn't chosen based on their previous works, they had AUDITIONS - just like to make that point clear. The fact that they have done alot of previous work just means that they have more experiance which is a good thing. Some dubs use a cast with actors that have low experiance, so naturaly some of the newcomers might sound plain and emotionless at times. If you watch johnny in trigun though, you can see what a good job he does.

Look, the reality is that the US companies treat all anime like pokemon and aim it squarely at 12 to 15 year olds. As such, tacky VAs with obvious voices ("moody!" "heroic!" "cute!" etc) are drafted in, furthering the association of anime with whiny snotty-nosed brats...

Untrue, maybe this is because most american viewers only get thier anime inputs from shows in cartoon network and other channels which would make the anime airing aimed more towards younger ages. Bleach is being aired on adult swim, which means that it will be aimed at a more mature audience - which is a good thing, because I've noticed that quality of dub goes up with more mature animes, since the dubbing companies are given more freedom.

[ManjiSTP]

Yes, but they ask for certain types of voices for the auditions, or else you'd get 350 pound black guys auditioning for Ishida. They often also bear people in mind - I think this was the case with Ichigo's VA, they already felt he was right for the job.
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Untrue, maybe this is because most american viewers only get thier anime inputs from shows in cartoon network and other channels which would make the anime airing aimed more towards younger ages. Bleach is being aired on adult swim, which means that it will be aimed at a more mature audience - which is a good thing, because I've noticed that quality of dub goes up with more mature animes, since the dubbing companies are given more freedom.

Er...not untrue, since I was basing it on the opinions of people from outside the US who simply hear the dubs on DVDs on a wide variety of shows. Also, in videogames too.

You say it's a more mature dub - yes, more mature than Pokemon and its ilk, but it's still very much aimed at 15 or 16 year olds. I expect a batch of Ishida pictures on MySpace with some Linkin Park noise playing with it.

[TwilightFlower]

In many cases, they will approach people they find suitable. If they have someone in mind, they will ask them to read for the part. I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case for more than just Ichigo. And yes, they would base a decision like who to approach on that person's past works. ManjiSTP is right. Whether or not they did this for the Bleach cast, I don't know but it is a distinct possibility.

[ichigo547]

Kirk Thorton should do the voice of Byakuya. The reason why is because he usually does a lot of deep voices (for example: Jin from Samurai Champloo). He would make a great Byakuya.

[TwilightFlower]

I haven't seen the dub for Samurai Champloo but if the English VA matches up well with Jin's character, then he would probably do well with Byakuya. I'll have to find a clip on youtube with him in it.

[Guy]

I think whoever voiced Sesshoumaru from Inuyasha should do Byakuya's voice. Kirk Thorton? Don't know about him, I'll watch clips from Samuari Champloo to know.

[TwilightFlower]

Alright, I just checked out the first dubbed episode of Samurai Champloo. As far as Kirk Thorton doing Byakuya's voice, I wouldn't mind it too much. The only thing I might have issue with is he might wanna pitch his voice down just a bit because otherwise Byakuya might sound a bit younger than he really is. That is assuming, of course, that Kirk Thorton was to portray Byakuya in the dubs.

[ichigo547]

I'm pretty sure Kirk Thorton could pull it off.

[TwilightFlower]

Yeah but the question now is whether or not the dubbers think that he could do it.
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Well at least things have calmed down a bit. That's always a good thing.

[ichigo547]

Yeah but the question now is whether or not the dubbers think that he could do it.
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Well at least things have calmed down a bit. That's always a good thing. You're right. That argument wasn't getting anywhere at all.

[TwilightFlower]

Arguments very rarely do. Debates, maybe. Arguments, no. Hopefully we won't have a third one pop up any time soon.

[ichigo547]

I think this is just about it for this post for today. How knows?
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Yeah...This thread is old news. Final thought: We all will just have to wait and see, won't we?

[Fallen One]

omg, these voices are HORRIBLE, My friends are gonna think bleach is so gay after this is out.

[Kabane]

omg, these voices are HORRIBLE, My friends are gonna think bleach is so gay after this is out.

heh, the only reason your friends would think Bleach is gay (because of a dub) is if they saw the sub first, otherwise i dont thin kthey'll care. Not to mention that the VAs are quite respected.

[Fallen One]

sigh, I say they couldve just put it on tv subbed dam lazy asses want horrible sounds than reading and understanding easlier.

[LegendaryXM90]

What anime do you know that has been put on a public channel with subs...? -.-

[Ishidaslover]

OMG THAT BETTER NOT BE URYU'S VOICE! >< OR ICHIGO'S! I WILL BE SO PISSED IF IT IS! IT TOTALY DOES SUTE (SP) THEM! well maybe when ichigo goes into hollow mode vash might sute him with his crazy laugh. lol but rukia and orihime..never hinata?! wtf?! orihime needs to be more ditzy like.... im not sure. lol and rukia's english voice? that would be rediculouse specially since her voice is so much deeper in japanese.:sad:

[Fallen One]

omg just a thought imagine how ugly hollow ichigo is gonna be!!!

[Guy]

Hey guys, altho I agree Orihime will be horrible, I don't think Ichigo sounds that bad. Rukia, with a little work, could be good.

[Faboor]

I guess the english voices aren't that bet if once you get used to it. But if you are used to the japanese voices than the english ones sound horrible.

[LegendaryXM90]

Meh. I think it'll always be that way. I myself started out watching up to 15 episodes of dub Naruto. Then I tried to watch the sub and thought it sucked to hell. The first one you watch will most likely always be better in your mind.

[_mike_]

fake and emotionless imo

[LegendaryXM90]

fake and emotionless imo

I lol'd @ your 1-liner with no proof. :whatevah:

[gigguk]

I found a clip of Johnny Yong Bosch dubbing a character on Eureka 7, and I thought some of you guys would like to see what dubbing is like...its pretty interesting.
http://www.adultswim.com/shows/eureka7/stuff/dubbed/index.html

[ichigo547]

That was a very interesting video. The Japanese voice of Renton was all right, but I prefer the english because it suits Renton better. All in all, thanks for the video, gigguk.

[ichigo547]

Hey guys, altho I agree Orihime will be horrible, I don't think Ichigo sounds that bad. Rukia, with a little work, could be good. Give Orihime a chance. Besides, we all haven't heard her voice yet.

[Guy]

Yeah, that's true. OK, I'll wait.

[soulslayer_ichigo]

ya ichigos wus alright, and rukia's could actually work.. ishadas.no way... i wonder when they will actually release english..

[Zaron]

I think it was pretty good. Nothing like the trainwreck that is the Naruto dub.

[Guy]

Lol, if Bleach's voice dubs are worse than Naruto's... I don't know what I'll do...

[*Hollow*Ichigo]

now dat i heard the trailer/commercial i say rukia is 2 hard and ichigo is 2 soft so it all makes no sense and then theres gunna be all these kids watching it and im like wat century u in? their up to eppy 95 and laugh my ass off in front of them =d

[ichigo547]

now dat i heard the trailer/commercial i say rukia is 2 hard and ichigo is 2 soft so it all makes no sense and then theres gunna be all these kids watching it and im like wat century u in? their up to eppy 95 and laugh my ass off in front of them =d First off, Bleach is going to air September 10th on 12:30 a.m. I highly doubt that kids are going to stay up that late. Secondly, I think the voice acting fits and I don't have to read subtitles, so it works for me one way or another.

[Guy]

Lol, kids. I don't think most kids even watch adult swim.

[ichigo547]

Lol, kids. I don't think most kids even watch adult swim. Exactly. They probably haven't even heard of it.

[Guy]

Lol, I don't think kids would wanna watch a show where they have a lot of blood and swearing.

[ichigo547]

Lol, I don't think kids would wanna watch a show where they have a lot of blood and swearing. It's a good thing it's at a late time. If the kids saw it, I think they'd probably try to do the things that were shown on Bleach. Lawsuit. lol

[razasharp20]

So funny seeing all these different opinions on the voices. I think they both sound a little old which is funny cause thats what I thought about the japanese version. Neither Ichigo nor Rukia sound bad to me. Actually after seeing that Bosch dub video it seems like he hasn't changed his voice at all for this dub. I'm wondering if they completely wreck some of the lower , flat emotionless voice styles like Ishida and Sado. I like bothof them a lot and would hate there voices to be screwed up. There voices add a lot more depth to their characters in my opiniion

[Shaehl]

Not sure if this has been posted before, but here is a link to the AS Bleach Trailer: http://www.adultswim.com/shows/bleach/index.html

[bLeAcHfEsT101]

In my own opinion I think the English voices are pretty good. Ichigo and Rukia so far don't sound that half bad. But I do hope the other English voices don't go wrong....:sad

[Sun Dao]

I dislike the voice for ichigo, Johnny sounds tooooo much like himself, I want to listen to Ichigo, ot Johnny. IMHO though hes not THAT bad of a VA though.

I know many people will probably disagree with me when I say this, But I tink Ishadas VA vits him somewhat.. But I think it will all be worked out in time.

[funknjunk]

I'm sick and tired of people dissing down on the voice actor's. I personally am fine with them except for Ishida's. But I do wish they would've had voices that resembled the japanese's crew

[sevendash]

I dislike the voice for ichigo, Johnny sounds tooooo much like himself, I want to listen to Ichigo, ot Johnny. IMHO though hes not THAT bad of a VA though.

I know many people will probably disagree with me when I say this, But I tink Ishadas VA vits him somewhat.. But I think it will all be worked out in time.
I really like Ishida's VA, but dislike Ichigo. Everybody else is meh to me.

[ichigo547]

So funny seeing all these different opinions on the voices. I think they both sound a little old which is funny cause thats what I thought about the japanese version. Neither Ichigo nor Rukia sound bad to me. Actually after seeing that Bosch dub video it seems like he hasn't changed his voice at all for this dub. I'm wondering if they completely wreck some of the lower , flat emotionless voice styles like Ishida and Sado. I like bothof them a lot and would hate there voices to be screwed up. There voices add a lot more depth to their characters in my opiniion Just wait and see. That's all there is to it.

[Guy]

It's premiering this week. Everyone already posted their expectations. Let's wait and see, like ichigo547 said.

[LegendaryXM90]

It's premiering tomorrow!! Today for you Canadian lucky bastards... If we're lucky, we can see it on YouTube by tomorrow morning so we won't have to wait the extra hours!

W00T!! :D

[Guy]

Lol, lucky Canadians...

[Regulas]

Just saw it 2 min ago.

Rukia seems like a fine voice. The only problem with Ichigos, is it sounds a little to old for him. Like with Naruto it seems like ther'll be a few very fitting voices, and the rest will seem out of place.

EDIT: Oh also the little girl in Episode ones voice, is obviously some guy trying to talk like a kid (in a cheesy cartoon like voice).

They seem to have kept japanese names and some terms (like Zanpaktou, aka ones that I dont beleave translate as directly), while soul reapers, and soul society are said in english. While I like them using Japanese names and stuff, they also use Japanese pronunsiation which somtimes makes the words soud kind choppy and wierd. Like Karin. They could just say it as the english Karin, but no they say it japanese style which makes it sound wierd.

[Guy]

Thanks for the heads-up, regulas.

[Guy]

Well, for me, it starts tonight (or tomorrow morning).

[LegendaryXM90]

FOUR....FRICKIN...HOURS...(EST)

I already saw it thanks to our good friends at Bleachportal, but I can't wait to actually see BLEACH on MY TV!!!

[the ghost]

saw it on adult swim.. voice characters weren't as good as i was expecting. ichigo doesn't have that certain tone in his voice as he does in the japanese version.

[gdo01]

I wonder why this thread is still here and not in the dub section. Anyway, the voices are good and fit with the characters after you've watched the episode a couple of times. Looking forward to Inoue, Tatsuki, and girly Rukia next week.

[ichigo547]

Well it is now.

[Pipp-ORK]

ichigo doesn't have that certain tone in his voice as he does in the japanese version.

Maybe because it ISN'T the Japanese version. :P

Personally, I'm really pleased with the dub. :Domo Rukia sounds kind of monotone in some places, but overall, it's one of the better dubs I've seen.

[~*Yumi*~]

Ichigo's English voice is the same voice as Vash the Stampede...and Uryu's will be the same voice actor who did Gary Oak from Pokemon, Prof. Oak from Pokemon and Cho Sawagejo from Rurouni Kenshin...so far, I think the dub is going well..

BTW, Kon sounds so "street" XD

[the ghost]

kon's eh..

[Nrvnqsr Chaos]

ok.......wtf? the video got removed......

[Pyramus]

I hated every minute of that 1st episode! All of the voices sounded like they had been done in some nerds closet!!! I am dreading Rengis voice, and Bayakuras, he sounds so cooland relaxed in Jap. But in Eng, he is gonna sound like a bludy american cowboy!!!(Dont know why i said cowboy, mabye its because i just read cowboy bebop and the name was in my head!!!)

[the ghost]

hopefully they won't spoil Renji's and Byakuya's voice. they're awesome in japanese!

[hasuke]

I hated every minute of that 1st episode! All of the voices sounded like they had been done in some nerds closet!!! I am dreading Rengis voice, and Bayakuras, he sounds so cooland relaxed in Jap. But in Eng, he is gonna sound like a bludy american cowboy!!!(Dont know why i said cowboy, mabye its because i just read cowboy bebop and the name was in my head!!!)


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

Oh wow. Thats all I can say about your post. Oh wow.

[ichigo547]

I hated every minute of that 1st episode! All of the voices sounded like they had been done in some nerds closet!!! I am dreading Rengis voice, and Bayakuras, he sounds so cooland relaxed in Jap. But in Eng, he is gonna sound like a bludy american cowboy!!!(Dont know why i said cowboy, mabye its because i just read cowboy bebop and the name was in my head!!!) If you hate the English language so much, why did you watch the episode in the first place and why are you typing in English, huh? Why don't you listen to subtitled shows in an American audience? Oh, yeah. That's right. YOU CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE NO ONE WOULD WANT TO WASTE THEIR TIME READING WHILE THEY'RE TRYING TO WATCH A SHOW!! Dee-dee-dee!

[Sevnm]

If you hate the English language so much, why did you watch the episode in the first place and why are you typing in English, huh? Why don't you listen to subtitled shows in an American audience? Oh, yeah. That's right. YOU CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE NO ONE WOULD WANT TO WASTE THEIR TIME READING WHILE THEY'RE TRYING TO WATCH A SHOW!! Dee-dee-dee!

whoa.
I used to say i liked the english naruto better... then i watched all the eps in Japanese. You get used to the voices and how they sound. Its totally understandable not to like the voices. they lack emotion and feel weird... your not used to it yet.

silly.

[the ghost]

yup, when you're not used to the voices, they tend to touch on some nerves when you'd expect better from the original japanese.

[ichigo547]

whoa.
I used to say i liked the english naruto better... then i watched all the eps in Japanese. You get used to the voices and how they sound. Its totally understandable not to like the voices. they lack emotion and feel weird... your not used to it yet.
silly. I heard the Japanese voices first. I just don't think people should totally bash it because it's in English. Besides, it could've been worse. Just think about it.

[Nrvnqsr Chaos]

you mean like they did to sanji's voice?