Club Bleach Poetry Contest: Discussion Thread

[maximoose666]

Here you can discuss the poetry contest, discuss the poems entered, and ask any questions you may have about it.

[Ai]

Does it have to be untill the 31st of august...thats a long time...

Couldn't we do it like bi-weekly

[summer_faerie]

hmmm a poetry conest. This should be fun! Do the poems have to be written in a certian way? Or is the only criteria that we need to follow the theme?

[maximoose666]

Only thing you need to follow is the theme. Ai, someone asked for me to allow a month for entries. This works well for me in this case because I'm away until the end of August and I have no idea whether I will have internet access while abroad or not. However, I can ask Pylar and Ruk to judge without me if you are all very keen to make it bi-weekly.

[Ai]

By all i asume you mean me....Since i was the only one to ask so far..O.o...

:p...

A month is annoying because you want to be able to see results sooner rather then later....And it does not take a month to think up a poem or prose...

I suggest you do leave it to plyar and Ruk to judge in two weeks...

This way it runs more like a sotw...well potw...well...potbw....

mhmm

sotw
potw
potbw
potew
powet
powe
powa

!!!!

POWA TO THE PEOPLE !!!

And maybe something in the announcement section saying something like the Poetry competitions are now running so that people actually see it...It's kinda hidden away here...

[maximoose666]

Hmm, okay. How about a global announcement? It will appear in every forum. I'd like to check with DB first that it's appropriate though... And sure, I'll ask Py and Ruk to judge in 2 weeks (although who knows, if I'm lucky enough with internet access I may be able to get on myself.)

[BeeCrest]

I think I'm the one who asked for a month-long contest, and I agree with Ai now Dx But maybe that's because I have a poem ready. This feels like the first time in months since I haven't waited until the last minute to do something. 2 weeks, one month, I'll be happy with whatever really.

[Icestorm]

i think 2 weeks is much better.. it gives you enough time and doesnt make the other people who have submitted wait for ages..

[Ai]

..I just hope that the judges arn't intimidated by the longer poems...

Just because it's short doesn't mean i thought of it in 2 minutes...

[Katen Kyoukotsu]

If anything theyll probably like the shorter poems more

Judge: Aha I dont have to red alot, you win lol

[Ai]

Bah..

I'm watching people put their poems in and most of them reffer to Leaves...and Humans...

GODDAMIT STOP COPYING ME...

*Looks at theme*

O.o

[BeeCrest]

Bah..
I'm watching people put their poems in and most of them reffer to Leaves...and Humans...
GODDAMIT STOP COPYING ME...
*Looks at theme*
O.o

Rofl then don't post first. Besides, mine isn't about Humans and leaves, it's about humans and flowers.

[Katen Kyoukotsu]

Bah..
I'm watching people put their poems in and most of them reffer to Leaves...and Humans...
GODDAMIT STOP COPYING ME...
*Looks at theme*
O.o
I checked my poem I never said leaves once. I did say trees twice tho.....does that count XD. Oh and btw its hard not to talk about humans as the topic is "Mankind and Nature" lol

[Ruk]

As one of the judges let me say that the size of the poem is not a factor I am going to look at. Long or Short I am looking more at what it manages to get across to me.

[Ai]

like a handfull of US $100 bills?

[Katen Kyoukotsu]

like a handfull of US $100 bills?
hehe.....I bet thatd get across quite....alot. lol XD

[summer_faerie]

like a handfull of US $100 bills?

LMAO

not fair I didn't stuff a bunch of money into my poem.... lol

Also I agree with only waiting two weeks for the contest. I hate waiting so long. And it really doesn't take a month to write a poem. >.> ... most of the time...

[sto67]

is there gonna be any judging criteria?
or is it just going to be who can write the most emotional poem that appeals most personally to the judge? ie "this poem wins because i feel exactly the same way whenever i eat bananas!"
cos if theres no judging criteria i see very little point in it.

it would also be appreciated if the judge had some sort of literary background or something, even if they dont like writing as long as they like reading regularly its ok.

[Icestorm]

i dont think that its really to do with the literary content, poems are all very different with a different style to the writer.. what does it matter if he doesnt have any knowledge of how i poem is set out, aslong as the emotions and the feelings put into it are given and he feels what is meant to be feeled, so he picks that one, i think thats the best way.. because poetry isnt about credentials.

[sto67]

but nonetheless poetry doesnt always have to be about real emotions, as long as it does the job of conveying the right message across in the most effective way then that would make a poem good.
i guess the other thing is that "good" is subjective and what is "good" to one person is not "good" to another. if you write what the judges want to read then i guess you win. that is why i wanted some sort of judging criteria; to remove or minimize that possibility.

[Icestorm]

but isnt a poem meant to be like that? appealing to the reader in all circumstances?

[summer_faerie]

Even if the poem one of the judges pickl to be the best is one that they really like. There is three different judges. So they can all read the poems and decided together on which one is the best.

[MasterWordSmith]

When one judges a poem, it is an automatic bias. Nothing you can say "Criteria" or "Basis of analisis" will change the fact that they can have bias opinions because they like the way something is written better. Obviously, there are basic criteria, and most people should understand this. Such as grammer, consistancy, fluidity, word usage, structure. These things are something judges should look out for, but other than that the whole idea of judging is personal opinion.

but isnt a poem meant to be like that? appealing to the reader in all circumstances?
I don't write poems to make everyone happen. I belive the true Idea of poety is expression. If someone doesn't like your expression it isn't your fault. I don't think you are correct in saying that poems should be for everyone. If I had an 8 year old brother, I wouldnt give him Charles Bukowski to read because of it being inapropriate. I think that the most important think in poetry is that you expressed yourself, and after that, they can like it or not, you have done what you set out to do.

Thats my opinion on "Poetry and the masses" for more information...just kidding, but seriously, I think everyone has their own Idea of how to write poetry and thats just mine. :P

I like a lot of the entries I've seen so far, I'd like to point out lail's entry as a great short work.

[Ai]

If i had an 8yr old brother i'd probably be giving him play boy to read..><

But yea the best poems are those that manage to get the feelings of the author across the best...this is why anyone can be a poet..

[MasterWordSmith]

If i had an 8yr old brother i'd probably be giving him play boy to read..><
Role Model! >.> But ya, I have a 15 year old brother, so he's pretty mature about everything...or not...

[maximoose666]

Deadline reduced to 2 weeks:)

sto67, I don't know what you'd count as literary credentials, but I'm an English sudent and I've been writing poems for rather a long time. The other judges are better "qualified" than I am - Ruk's father is, I believe, a published poet, and Pylar is a Classics major with experience of studying the greatest poems ever written (The Oddessy, for example) in the original format. I did ask earlier if the members of this section would prefer to appoint judges of their own from DeviantArt or somewhere, if these people would consent to judge, but they stated that they would prefer to be judged by CB staff members.

I'll judge as fairly as I can, based on skill and relevance to the theme. I always give good CnC (as those who have had me judge their poems can testify) so if you are unhappy with my judgement of your poem then I will be disappointed.

[MasterWordSmith]

Good to know! I've read some of your work as I've seen on here and I can see you have been writing for some time. ^^

[summer_faerie]

so close to the deasline now! I can't wait to see who wins!! All the poems that have been submitted are really good. So props to everyone who entered!

[Ai]

/me changes his poem at the very last minute to a

Mary had a little lamb poem..

[MasterWordSmith]

Hey no fair, we all know nursery rhymes pwn too hard for this contest!

[summer_faerie]

awwww now we are all doom to fail with that new poem Ai entered! ;_; bet he stuffed money in with that new entry too. >.> lol

[Katen Kyoukotsu]

You must have confidance. E-money shall not shall our stalwort judges. Anyway when is the deadline anyway?

[Isis]

Everyone who posted a poem in there are great poets with their individual styles and i loved reading all of them. Deadline is tomorrow (16th). Best of luck to all of you! :biggrinlo

[Katen Kyoukotsu]

Judging has begun. DUM DUM DUMMMMMMMM. Katen is exited for first poetry contest.

[Ai]

Indeed...

So we're going to get a 1st, 2nd and 3rd?

[MasterWordSmith]

I would assume a top3, but I'm not sure, maybe they'll just have a conclusive winner xD

[Ai]

That would be annoying...Enough people entered to get the top three

[MasterWordSmith]

yea, it's not like it's a small contest (at least by the stardards of most forums Ive seen) I would like to see other good poems get noticed for how good they are.

[Ai]

Indeed...

And the top three that win can have their poems put in a results archive thread..So that they stand out somewhat from the others...Kinda like the Sotw results archive thread..

[Katen Kyoukotsu]

At least were getting feedback on all of them. Just that makes me happy though truthfully Id prefer a 1st 2cd and 3rd also.

[MasterWordSmith]

I suppose, I'm a competetive person when it comes to things I like to do, dunno why. But I think the fact that critique is given to all of the poems, not just the one that wins gives more inscentive to enter a poem.

[Katen Kyoukotsu]

Exactly, though we all get to hear what people think of are poems, getting feedback on why your poem didnt win/did win or how it could be improved is a whole diffrent story. And most poets are able to grow from it.

[maximoose666]

Okay, we can have a top three ;)

DB has offered prizes which is nice. Not sure what we will have as these yet though :p May well be rep boost or something =D

[Icestorm]

sounds great to me! good luck everyone!

[Ai]

Sweeties...More useless junk to add to our lives..

I'm IN!!!

:p

Na thankz DB...a comp is always good when your gonna win something at the end of it..

[azusa_the_warrior]

can't wait for the results

[maximoose666]

Lol, be patient :D

[MasterWordSmith]

Can't you just feel the suspense building (along with the impatience!) xD

[azusa_the_warrior]

lol yea i will patience is the way of the samuria, and thats something i have to work on lol

[Ai]

Sitting alone in my room
Waiting for the answer
The answer to my question
...

WHO THE HELLS GONNA's WIN

[BeeCrest]

Ah, the judging is happening! I haven't been here in awhile since I haven't written anything new/decent. Well good luck to everyone who submitted, and to the judges who I'm sure will judge fairly and swiftly :D.

[Ai]

. Well good luck to everyone who submitted, and to the judges who I'm sure will judge fairly and swiftly :D.

fairly....Yes...

Switfly....We can only hope...

:doindadom

Who were everyones favorite one?

[maximoose666]

lol, fairly = yes

swiftly = perhaps

However, I have news on the prizes front.

Prize for winning each round will be a rep boost from all of the judges. Prize for the overal winner after 5 rounds will be a premimum account :)

[Katen Kyoukotsu]

Ooh, whats a premium account anyway......hehe.

[MaskedDrifter]

When is the next poetry contest? Came back to late for the last one.

[MasterWordSmith]

Im not sure, I think people were talking about doing them monthly or Bi-weekly. Eitherway, It shouldn't be too far off at all.

[MaskedDrifter]

All right...awesome.

[Ai]

It's bi-Weekly....We decided monthly was way to long...

[MaskedDrifter]

Yes! In that case, I can't wait for the next one..

[maximoose666]

Next one is as soon as we finish judging. I'm sorry, but I need another week because I am away from the internet for a week and I didn't finish judging your entries. I do apologise for this, I feel that I am letting a lot of people down. Only thing I can say is that I will make my CnC extra detailed to make up for this a little :)

[Ai]

We understand maxi..

have fun while your gone...

zomg..it ryhmes..im just ripping them off today

[MasterWordSmith]

*sigh* waits some more.

No biggie, it's not like I'm in any real rush to fing out the winner, it just builds the suspense LMAO.

[BeeCrest]

lol, fairly = yes

swiftly = perhaps

However, I have news on the prizes front.

Prize for winning each round will be a rep boost from all of the judges. Prize for the overal winner after 5 rounds will be a premimum account :)

Now I'm going a super-competitive-ruthless-writer. Oh how rep corrupts the soul so easily. It's not about the writing and sharing ideas anymore, it's a fight for the prizes!!!!!!!!!

I dare you all to take the above seriously.

One week is fine Maxi, as long as you guys judge fairly, and give decent CnC I'm happy ^^

*goes to dig a hole*

[Ruk]

Well my judging is done, there were some good poems. Many of them infact don't let my CnC fool you when you see it. I went the super critical editor path with my CnC, no one escaped my red editing pen :D

[BeeCrest]

Well my judging is done, there were some good poems. Many of them infact don't let my CnC fool you when you see it. I went the super critical editor path with my CnC, no one escaped my red editing pen :D

That's good though....right?

[Ruk]

I would hope you think it's good, I tried to give the best CnC that I could. Some might call it harsh but I was fair across the board. I did not call one thing out one place only to ignore it in others.

It's good we have 3 judges as no one person reads a poem the same way. I am hoping that with 3 people with 3 different views you will all walk away as winners with the good CnC.

My hat is off to everyone that entered as I feel poems are a very personal thing and it takes a ton of courage just to share them, let alone enter them into a contest where you have people judging them.

[Katen Kyoukotsu]

*Katen looks at his pretend CnC*

Ruk: Well your poem was well.......just look at it
*the whole poem is highlighted red*

Thats whats wrong with it

Katen: *tear*



lol

[Ruk]

Just promise not to hate me for being honest, I hope you will welcome me back to judge again. I had a great time sitting down with all the entries.

[azusa_the_warrior]

well I can not wait to see it, i like criticism it makes me work harder.

[Icestorm]

no i look forward to your critic.. and ofcourse i wont hate you.. this is a comp.. haha and lol @ Katen

[MasterWordSmith]

Good CnC to me, is CnC that is negative yet encouraging. As long as you back up your statements, I'm sure nowon will be irrational enough to hate you ^^

[Ruk]

Just thought I would let you know we are still working on getting this all judged. Maxi did not finish before he was forced to be with out internet again, so his results should be coming tomorrow.

We might also be down to only 2 judges this round as Pylar has had an issue arise that could hinder her ability to judge this round. When I know more I will let you know.

[Ai]

"hinder her ability to judge"

ie: Pylars so stoned she was trying to judge how to turn on the computer?

[Ruk]

"hinder her ability to judge"
ie: Pylars so stoned she was trying to judge how to turn on the computer?

No it was a little more personal then something like that. I am going to leave it up to her if she wants to share it.

[Ai]

oh well...

I'm sure it'll be fun to see the top three.

[MasterWordSmith]

Indeed, it's good that if a judge has an issue that would make it difficult to judge, they back down as to not affect the results.

[summer_faerie]

hey guys I have been gone for about a week. Has the contest been judge? if so where can I find the resultes and the CnC!!!! I wana see who one plus I would love to see what Ruk and maxi and pylar (if she took part in the end) thought abou tmy poem -_-" I can't find a thread about it though.....

[Ai]

It hasn't been judged yet..

Maxi has yet to judge any for when shes back..

Pylar is no longer going to be a judge due to an unforseen circumstance..

But Ruk is ready and just waiting for Maxi..

[summer_faerie]

gah *cries* thats so sad. I really want to know who won!

[Ai]

We all do....

Patience is the key to true success in life...That and alot of self awarness..

[MaskedDrifter]

I've been wondering...is each round a different poetry contest? Or are you able to jump into the next one.....?

[maximoose666]

Yep, anyone can join the next round :)

[Hattori]

May I enter really quick? I can whip something up by tommorow, but I don't know where to post it! Do I just PM it to one of the judges?

*Nudge*

*Uses special ability: Old Boy Club*

Hey Ruk, Maxi! Since I'm in your division, you'll totally give me 10s, right? Awesome!

*Quieter*

*No really, you'll give me 10s, right, even though it will suck?*

[azusa_the_warrior]

Hey thanks for the cnc, you guys did a very good job, I really appreciate your criticism, I have very bad at grammar when it comes to writing. I just write it down how it comes in my head and I never go back and fix things, also the reason why i am at a community college and not the university i want to go to. But I will keep at it and hopefully get better.

[pylar]

Sorry guys, my grandmother passed away last week and I had to deal with that emotionally as well as travel for a few days for her funeral services. But I will be helping out with the next round, if Maxi and Ruk still will let me judge :D

[Ai]

OMFG...

Pylar...So sorry for you..

My grandmother passed away two years ago and i still miss her...

:(...

*Gives Pylar some flowers*

[Icestorm]

Im sorry to hear that Pylar.. may she Rest In Peace

[Neve]

@ Hattori - the first round has finished, but I'm sure you can enter the next round. Judging by your standard of writing, you'll still have a chance of winning, even though you'll be a few points down at the start =D.

Thanks to all the judges =D. @ Ruk - mine was in Haiku, so changing the syllables wouldn't have worked, but I appreciate your criticism =D. @ Pylar - really sorry to hear about your grandmother =(. Glad you'll be back for the next round, though =).

Hopefully the next round will be up soon =D.

[BeeCrest]

That must've sucked Pylar, I hope you're feeling better now. Hopefully you can judge next time :D

[Hattori]

Ouch, we feel for you, Pylar. Don't feel pressured to judge if you don't think you need to be dealing with that sort of stuff right now.

[maximoose666]

Poor Pylar :( I am sorry to hear about your grandmother.

Anyway, the next round is up, and anyone can join.

By the theme "anime", you can write any poem that is in some way related to anime, from writing a poem imagining yourself as an anime character to writing an apologia for why so many people are hooked on these Japanese TV programs!

[Neve]

Wooow...great theme (because I get to do a Mai HiME poem :D - YAY)

[Hattori]

Mmhm...anime...

Well, alright. Expect some vague connections and a crapload of allusions, but I can't promise too many direct links.

[BeeCrest]

I love you Maxi. I feel confident with this theme, can't wait to get writing :D.

/me wishes she could use her old FMA poem though

[Hattori]

So...what does everyone think about the current entries?

Don't tell me mine sucks, I know.

[MaskedDrifter]

I like it. It is good. What doy uo all think of mine?

[Hattori]

Ok, I'm going to be ultra-critical.

Price of Living

We travelled forth upon a path,
that was forbidden to all.
But we ignored the voice of God,
and the angels' warning call.

Interesting that you put the fact that "we" traveled before the actual warning of the Authority. Why?


The problem wasn't what we thought,
or what we didn't do.
It was us who failed to see,
the obvious and the true.


Nice rhymes, but this "reflective" passage doesn't do much to advance the poem itself.


We thought science the only truth,
that gods we would become.
But we learned is that the past,
cannot be undone.


This rhyme is a little sketchy, and I think you forgot a word here. Last two phrases a bit too generic for competitive poetry.


So with broken hearts and minds,
we set out on our quest.
To put things back to how they were,
and put all things to rest.


You speak a lot of forebodings and consequences, yet never describe the action itself. I think your last "and" would have worked more effectively as a "to."


We travelled forth upon a path,
that was forbidden to all.
But now we know not to ingore,
the angels' warning call.

Think you misspelled ignore. This is basically a repeat of your first stanza, which I don't think really works as a conclusion for this poem. Perhaps you should have put something either signifying atonement or redemption for humanity's sins, or the eternal damnation of those who strayed. That, of course, depends on your message.

[Icestorm]

looking pretty good.. can anyone guess my anime and character?

[Hattori]

Mmhm...Fist of the North Star, Kenshiro or Black King. Kenshiro fights in a post-apocalyptic world and tries to protect the populace against roving bandits.

Now your turn. What's mine?

[Katen Kyoukotsu]

*Katen has no idea what Hattori's is* lol. Though mine should be pretty easy as there are hints all throughout it. Anyway I might have to touch mine up so it flows a bit more, I mean I like all the lines but they dont work as well as I thought they did when I first wrote it. Anyway feed back appreciated. *would love a review* XD.

[MaskedDrifter]

If you knew the anime for mine..it would be clear.....

FMA...

[Icestorm]

well actually mine is Hellsing haha

[Hattori]

That was actually my second guess.

I thought we weren't allowed to edit our poems after we posted them?

[Neve]

@ Hattori - yours was scarily good imo, the rhyming especially (although I do admit to having to make use of a dictionary for a couple of bits...paean, iconoclast :D) - very well written. I'm pretty sure you can edit entries...

Ah well, I'm suffering from a lack of inspiration atm =(. I'm sure I'll think of something eventually.

[maximoose666]

YAY! I guessed masked's was FMA \o/

Once I knew it was FMA I liked it too; before I worked that out it did indeed seem less good.

I didn't know what the other animes were, and I haven't seen Hellsing unfortunately. You can edit submissions until the due date.

[Hattori]

Is mine really so impenetrable? Fine, I'll give you two hints:

1. This is an anime we're all very familiar with. I guarentee it.

2. Daedalus: mythical greek savant, designed the Labyrinth and Icarus' wings. When the king of Minos sent men to fetch him, the only way they could find him was to hold a contest and see who could thread a string through a nautilus shell.

[Neve]

I doubt I'm right but...Ishida?

[Hattori]

See? Told ya it wasn't as hard as it looked. Now, what is he thinking about? There is one overarching topic and three seperate events that pertain to it.

[Icestorm]

oh yeah and mask.. i thought that yours would also go well with the anime Gundam SEED on the topic of the naturals and plant.. the whole "we should never have tampered with human genetics"

[MaskedDrifter]

oh yeah and mask.. i thought that yours would also go well with the anime Gundam SEED on the topic of the naturals and plant.. the whole "we should never have tampered with human genetics"

:o yeah you're right.....

[Hattori]

Mmhm...that wasn't really the moral of the anime. Considering how three out of the four main protagonists were coordinators, and that coordinators suffer the most damage throughout the series, wouldn't a GSEED poem advocate the diminishment of bigotry instead of an anti-science perspective?

[Icestorm]

haha I wasnt going to get technical :P but if there were no coordinators they wouldnt get damaged.. but on a whole I dont think that either side in the anime was more at fault.. both did actions that spawned the war. But I do agree that, that wasnt the moral of the anime. Ofcourse I know that it couldnt look like perfect poem in that light because it wasnt actually designed to be GSEED, but i was just putting a new perspective on it.

[Hattori]

We really need to have a PotW or something, the poetry contest loses momentum after the first few days. Anyone want to organize one?

[MasterWordSmith]

I could never write a poem about anime. Not even if I actually wanted to.

PotW? I guess. I wouldn't mind it. Is it a poem selected by a user and everyone talks about it? or a mini contest?

[Hattori]

The latter.

[MaskedDrifter]

PoTW? sounds like fun..

[BeeCrest]

Uh, how much longer do I have to submit my poem in progress?

[Hattori]

A week, I think.

[MasterWordSmith]

Im just waiting for the next contest and hoping its not something like...anime as a theme XD

[Neve]

Really? I quite like the theme of this round. Just still waiting for inspiration...

[MasterWordSmith]

Yea I guess it just depends. I'm a huge anime lover, but the two never cross for me. I have written poems about themes from EVA but never directly about it. I think because my mother is a poet too, based on what she's taught me it's just hard to write a poem about something like anime.

[Icestorm]

I found the theme hard to approach at first.. but once I focused on a character more than the whole anime.. it kinda made it easier.. but im not sure how good the poem i wrote is.. but at least I tried

[Hattori]

Yea I guess it just depends. I'm a huge anime lover, but the two never cross for me. I have written poems about themes from EVA but never directly about it. I think because my mother is a poet too, based on what she's taught me it's just hard to write a poem about something like anime.

Then...write one about a theme from EVA. EVA rocks.

[Hattori]

Just a reminder, guys, this contest closes soon! (Three days remain)

[Icestorm]

hmm interesting Ai.. never thought of doing it on actual anime as the topic, its interesting concept

[Hattori]

This is like, due tommorow, right? It ends on the 16th.

[BeeCrest]

I'll have mine tomorrow, I'll think of something >>

[Neve]

Woo...I finally got my inspiration =D. I'll have it finished by tomorrow...hopefully it won't matter if I'm a little late.

[maximoose666]

Last day for submissions tomorrow. If you need an extension, PM me.

[CRL]

wow i got mine in like last minute like almost everything else i do. lol but theres some preety good poems in this challengne. wonder who will win...

[Hattori]

*Ding*

Time's up!

@Maxi: Will there be a penalty for late entries? Seems kinda unfair to others if there wasn't.

[MaskedDrifter]

I wonder who will win?

So guys, why don't we make predictions?

As for me, i predict the winner will be...

SandalHat! His haiku was aweosme.

[Hattori]

Sandal Hat didn't enter...

[Neve]

*Ding*

Time's up!

@Maxi: Will there be a penalty for late entries? Seems kinda unfair to others if there wasn't.
Heh...time isn't up for me - I'm GMT, therefore my entry is on time =D.

hmm...I was gonna do one of my normal serious, depressing poems, but after Hattori entered I decided that any serious poem I attempted would look like nothing compared to his :D, so I tried a style I haven't used before...hope it isn't too bad...

[Hattori]

It's not bad, itsover. Last lines kinda weak, but it stuck to the plotline pretty well, and you had some inventive rhymes.

[Neve]

Ah well...I don't pretend to be a poet - I'm much better at writing short stories. I'd be happy with 2nd or 3rd =D.

[Hattori]

You shouldn't think like that!

[MasterWordSmith]

xD

I enter to win, but anime is so hard for me to write about. Almost like it isn't poetry worthy. Bet eh, I still wrote one about eva, I hope the judges catch the references.

[Hattori]

Asuka/Rei/Shinji, in that order?

[MasterWordSmith]

actually, its shinji, rei, asuka

You can see the shinji in the first movement through alot of the psychological references.

I wrote this like, on the spot, I still think it sucks xD

[BeeCrest]

I still think it sucks xD
Same XD
I wrote mine in two different time slots and it's definately not my best, but I'm just happy it doesn't sound entirely like my old FMA poem :).

[Hattori]

Notice how all poets who are good think their poetry sucks?

Peraonally, I think mine rox (does that mean that it sucks? Or, by implying it does suck, is it subtly saying I pwn? Or, by subtly saying I pwn, does that imply that it sucks- ah, nevermind)

[Ai]

I'm happy with mine....:)

[MasterWordSmith]

I actually thought yours was awsome ai.

Actually, Im quite egotistical about my poetry, I just think this isn't as good as my usual writing. I guess the new subject matter throws me off. But aside from that, Im sort of...well...I like my poetry damn it!

[Icestorm]

I liked my poem.. whether it will do well ill leave up to the judges

[Katen Kyoukotsu]

Oh crap.......I meant to fix mine before the deadline.......but I forgot......Oh crap......Katen smells a last place. Oh danm..........anyway everyone good luck but I must say I am quite upset with myself right now.

[Neve]

Notice how all poets who are good think their poetry sucks?

Peraonally, I think mine rox (does that mean that it sucks? Or, by implying it does suck, is it subtly saying I pwn? Or, by subtly saying I pwn, does that imply that it sucks- ah, nevermind)
Trust me, yours does pwn =D.

hmm...I always think my poetry sucks, which it generally does, and that my short stories pwn, which they sometimes do...but that can't be the opposite...because everyone else says my short stories are good and my poetry sucks :D.

[Icestorm]

hahaha.. good job.. you managed to confuse yourself lol.. im normally confident and optimistic.. also realistic.. haha

[MasterWordSmith]

eh, I walk into everything like ima win! xD

Maybe not the most public friendly attitude, but hey, confidence is half the battle >.>

[BeeCrest]

Notice how all poets who are good think their poetry sucks?


With me, I always think my work sucks. Rarely do I think "Damn, I did a good job." I'm still proud of my poems, I just never think I'm great because that's me.

........I need to be slapped XD

[Icestorm]

*slaps bee* your poetry is always of great standard! I saw you bloom into a great poet as I stood by as an observer. haha I remember when you referred to me and now look.. we are competing side by side.. see now that is advancement and a true measure of how far you have come.

[MaskedDrifter]

I don't feel so good about mine...I just....seem to have lost it.....what I had for poetry....my poems don't...sound good to me anymore...

[Icestorm]

you too eh? *sniffles*

[CRL]

seems like most people think their works sucks when it in fact doesnt. i personally thought mine was mediocore since i rushed it and i know i could've done better if i maybe tried a something different

[BeeCrest]

I don't feel so good about mine...I just....seem to have lost it.....what I had for poetry....my poems don't...sound good to me anymore...

you too eh? *sniffles*

........group hug? I feel the same way. All three of us started out together (and Katen) and us three feel the same way XD I'll probably be feeling better later, whatever.

Just curious, have any of you guys ever written a poem inspired by an anime before? This is my 3rd or 4th time writing a poem inspired by an anime.

[Icestorm]

actually for me this is the first time.. im normally writing about emoness lol or love

[sto67]

well good poetry is a very subjective thing :P
there is no absolute way of measuring quality anyways so its sometimes hard to judge.
but if the poet is not satisfied with his or her work, then its not satisfactory, thats all there is to it.

[MaskedDrifter]

........group hug? I feel the same way. All three of us started out together (and Katen) and us three feel the same way XD I'll probably be feeling better later, whatever.
Just curious, have any of you guys ever written a poem inspired by an anime before? This is my 3rd or 4th time writing a poem inspired by an anime.

actually, alot of mine used to be inspoired off anime..but i took a break from the genre to explore other things.

[Katen Kyoukotsu]

........group hug? I feel the same way. All three of us started out together (and Katen) and us three feel the same way XD I'll probably be feeling better later, whatever.
Just curious, have any of you guys ever written a poem inspired by an anime before? This is my 3rd or 4th time writing a poem inspired by an anime.


i finally get noticed lol. my last like four posts in here were ignored *tear*. Anyway ive written a few off of anime. One I based of Shunsui and I did 2 from berserk also. In the end though it seems hard to really reflect everything about a character that you feel needs to be there. Like for my Shunsui poem the first draft had everything I wanted except an ending that I liked. But when I rewrote the ending it seemed to have lost the underlying presence of humor and pain that I really liked in Shunsui. in the end I never really got a version that i completely liked.(still makes me sad XD).

Anyway as for the competition I am still sorely disappointed that I forgot the deadline and wasnt able to change my entry, as I thought my poem had potential but wasnt really as good as it could be.

[Ai]

/me looks at how long you were ignored for..

/me roflz...

/me wants to know when the judging will be completed?

[MaskedDrifter]

Same here...I can't wait^^

[maximoose666]

Sorry. Both of teh other judges are really busy atm, and I am too :(

I'll try and judge tonight or tomorrow...

[MasterWordSmith]

Take your time =P

[Ai]

HOW LONG SCOTTY HOW LONG...

*wails and runs away*

[maximoose666]

hmm, Ice, wanna judge for me? If so I can PM you teh judging area pass. If you submitted a poem it would become void though :P

[Icestorm]

I have to think about this :D because Im really into this competion.. but it would also really benifit the others if I could get onto it straight away.. *thinks it over* ill get back to you about that Maxi

[BeeCrest]

PSSST, ICE.

Take one for the team and judge our poems. Please :D

[Katen Kyoukotsu]

I noes the results are like a week overdues. Helps us

[BeeCrest]

On a side note does anyone have any ideas for a theme to write about during the next competition? I thought of one awhile ago, I just can't remember it :p

[Icestorm]

Well the only problem I have is that im poor at giving technical CnC I only know how to write.. Id only be able to give my opinion on which I think is the best..

EDIT: Also I think I could subject could be Time and History..

whether you talk about wars.. monuments.. things that took place.. etc etc

[Neve]

I don't mind the time taken to judge - I know how horrid real life can be =(.

Is there any chance we could see the theme for the next round, though?

* itsovernow would like one of the themes to be romance or love related - don't mind if it's not this one, provided it's one of them...please? *

[Ai]

/me will give sex if the theme is a wide and easy one..

and good on ya for taking one for the team ice

[BeeCrest]

/me agrees with Ai that the next theme should be broad

[maximoose666]

Love and romance-related sounds nice :3

needs a good title though

[BeeCrest]

A title for the theme? Isn't "Love and Romance" good enough? :3

[maximoose666]

hmmm maybeee

but that doesn't sound literary enough :P

How about "Missing You" or "Strange Affection" or "Endless sighs" ? :o

[Ai]

or how bout just "Romance and Love" -.-.......

[BeeCrest]

"Longing Affection"

"The Passionate Devotion"

"Deepening Fondness*

.......?

[Katen Kyoukotsu]

All of you can be quiet now. *Covers his ears and screams*

[Icestorm]

sorry Ai I never said I would do it.. I just said I would take a look at it..

im sorry guys but I have no idea where to start with judging.. im a poor judge, although I can write poetry and give some CnC, I just dont know how to approach this. Forgive me but you'll have to wait until the others get around to it. If I disapointed anyone im sorry.

[moatism]

if there's gonna be a contest on love and romance PLZ count me in!!!

[Neve]

Hmm...sorry - I can't say I really like any of the suggested titles.

imo just say "Love and Romance" and let us make up our own 'literary' titles.

If we have to have a 'literary' theme, "Without you" GMV, or at least something depressing rather than happy, okay? =D

[Ai]

@ Ice....:(...

So we need another judge to get this over with...Who's going to do it?...or can we just annoy maxi untill he gets it done?

[Icestorm]

Well in my opinion a good judge would be masterwordsmith aslong as he isnt too critical..

[sto67]

nothing wrong with being too critical as long as he can give reasons. dont take it as a personal attack but take it on board and grow from the advice.

[MasterWordSmith]

Well in my opinion a good judge would be masterwordsmith aslong as he isnt too critical..
=D I would be happy to judge, I just got finished with a few major school projects and such so I can judge the next few poetry contensts with great ease, along with being more active in my div.

As for being too critical, thats a matter of opinion. I'll be HONEST with how I feel. I won't lie and be nice when something is total crap. But I will give reasons and detailed critique and reasoning as to why I belive my opinions are valid, and will be open to discussion if someone disagree's with me.

However I would really really like to judge, it would be a great honor ^^

credentials: Winner of every school poetry contest Ive ever participated in, My entire family comes from a line of poets and poetry enthuiests, so I have been exposed to much of it throughout my 17 year old life. I am responsible enough to handle the task within a few days of the poetry deadline and have an open pm box for those who wish to submit ideas for new poetry contsts, have complaints or problems, and would be willing to work it out with anyone ^^

[BeeCrest]

Please judge so we can know who wins :)

[Ai]

Lolz trust me MWS we really don't care what the persons credentials are atm...

We just need someone to judge the contest...:p

[Icestorm]

Well ive given my nod for him.. I think ill forward the judging thread to him and the pass..

[MasterWordSmith]

ok my judging has begun! I will try to get everything done by this sunday, I have most of the weekend free (short of a few chores) to do this. I will withdraw my submission (obviously) and concentrate of the submissions remaining. good luck to everyone and expect results soon!

You guys don't care who judges! Thats terrible, Id rather have my poem no where NEAR touched by someone who didnt know what they were talking about.

[maximoose666]

lol, all he people here know what they are talking about anyway :) Gl witrh the judging mws :3

[BeeCrest]

Thanks so much MWS, I always look forward to your detailed CnCs :3

[MasterWordSmith]

Detailed CnC takes time, Im over halfway done but its consumed my weekend xD

[maximoose666]

Thanks for judging MWS \o/

I am giving you a "staff title" of Poetry Contest Judge for your troubles; it will look like my "GFX Crew" title, and mean you can use your usertitle for whatever you like :P.

[MasterWordSmith]

Ok Topics for next time. I'm open to judgestions.

[Neve]

/me would still like a 'love and romance' theme.

If it has to be something more specific, I would much prefer a depressing theme to a happy one, but I would rather it was just 'Love and Romance' - I believe the general feeling is towards a broader theme.

[MasterWordSmith]

How about, we do a love and romance theme, but you cannot use the word love in any form. So you are talking about love and romance, but you can't use the word "love" anywhere in your poem. I think that will gives us more original ideas, than people just using the word love up and down the place.

Also, I like the idea of no "happy" love poems. I think this would be fair also.

I like the idea but would like to see more people comment and agree on this before I give it the go!

[moatism]

moat agrees on the love & romance topic!

[CRL]

no "happy" poems... well that is... perfectly fine with me because i don't really do any happy poems.

[BeeCrest]

Just remember guys
Cannot use the word 'Love' anywhere in your poem

One or two of the entries have the word love in them.

[Lenne]

Just remember guys


One or two of the entries have the word love in them.

wah, thats a bit harsh >.<

i thought i wrote a pretty good poem the today, but since 'love' cant be used, i dont think i'll be participating in this one ;-;

i'm very low on inspiration these days...

[Icestorm]

ah come on.. its not that hard. I think its better if you cant. It makes it more interesting, instead of seeing the word love written 5 times in a poem.

[Lenne]

it was used only once ;-;

twice if u count the title >.<

[Icestorm]

well cant u substitute?

[Lenne]

not reli?

its the whole theme of the poem. its like, unsub-able

@@

bleh, i'll just pass on this one. thnx

[MasterWordSmith]

hmm, Icestorm is totally correct as to my reasoning for not having "love" anywhere in the poem. Basically, I don't want you to tell me "love" I want you to SHOW me what love is. Dont just say, describe and make the reader feel it without being blatently obvious.

[Lenne]

hmmm, how about this, can i ask if it maybe be included in title?

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[MasterWordSmith]

...no

Im being fairly stern about it apearing NOWHERE in the poem. I understand your desire and want to use it, but please try to find some other way. I would still like you to participate very much, but I can't bend the rules even if I created them, sorry.

Also, all poems submitted that had the word love in them, please resubmit or write a new poem. I belive you can edit your post and just throw it in there ^^

[Icestorm]

Cmon seren you can do it without it. Ive already gotten some of the ones that used love in it.

[BeeCrest]

Just remember guys submission ends next Wednesday. *is still working on mine =P*

[Icestorm]

haha Bee its next wednesday not this wednesday.. but i do encourage everyone to start if you havnt yet.

[BeeCrest]

I didn't specify which Wednesday now did I? *goes to edit to make it specific*

[Icestorm]

haha then why would you warn them if its next wednesday? :P

[BeeCrest]

So they know they have more or less than a week to get them in. Duh.

[Icestorm]

pfft they should know that

[Ai]

Meh...

I got my poem in i'm happy....:p

[Lenne]

hmmmm.
can we change the poem for the current contest if wrote another one and want to use this one instead?

[Icestorm]

Yeah you sure can.. aslong as its before the due date

[MasterWordSmith]

I havnt looked at any of em yet, so am long as I dont know what happens in that thread, Im not gunna disqualify anyone xD

[Icestorm]

You wont be disqualifying anyone unless they submit something against the rules after the time slot. Before then ill make sure that its screened

[MasterWordSmith]

I never said I was you big meanie t.t

plus im too much of a kitten to disqualify anyone :3

[Lenne]

^lol

well ok, i might or might not change it :x

[MasterWordSmith]

ah w/e just have all the crap ppl want in by weds and im happy. I look forward to reading yours serendipity ^^

[Lenne]

lol, i'm quite bleh right now so i dont think i'll be doing too well in this contestXD

and yea, i changed the poem, just cuz the other didnt feel as complete without the word 'love' =S

[MasterWordSmith]

=/

Its a common thing for writers to find the word that they like the best, or makes their poem the most complete, and remove it from their work. It sounds stuipid, but in doing so you strengthen the overall quality of the peice. People dont remember your "1 line" or 1 word that made the poem good. They remember the poem in it's entirety ^^

ONLY 3 MORE DAYS PPL GET CRACKING, I WANT THIS TO BE A BIG MASSIVE POETRY CONTEST.

also, anymore ideas for the next theme? I was thinking "Japan" as a theme. People could write some pretty cool stuff about it.

[Lenne]

;-; i've never been to japan... and despite liking the music & anime, i cant say its my favourite country out there >.> been brainwashed too much as a chinese person =/

[MasterWordSmith]

hmmm, well maybe put an asian theme on it, since some people may not agree to it being exclusively japanese. But it would have to be far more specific.

[Icestorm]

hmm im wondering.. should i have shut it.. because it was wednesday yesterday for me.. but what time is it in US?

[BeeCrest]

It's Wednesday here, but I was about to close it anyways. People can just pm you or me the late submissions.

[Neve]

How late will you accept 'late submissions'?

Would midday tomorrow be okay?

(assuming midday tomorrow is about 15 hours away, which it is here in the UK)

[BeeCrest]

I don't see that as a problem, just no later than 24 hours :)

[MasterWordSmith]

um, lemme put it this way, I dont know how much authority I have just being "the judge" lol, but basically, I don't really care, personally I think deadlines exist for a reason, but sometimes things come up and yada yada yada...

so basically, get it in in a reasonable about of time. Ill be judging it as soon as ice gives me the go :P

[Cloud]

I sent my late submission to Ice. Sorry about that. If it's too late then it's cool but would you still give me a bit of critiques on it anyways please?

[Icestorm]

its all good.. I dont see any problem with waiting a little while for yours Neve

[MasterWordSmith]

har har :|

Judging time!

[BeeCrest]

Thank you MWS :)

[Elise Lenne Fevout]

When's the next round?

[BeeCrest]

The next round will be after MWS is done judging.

[Elise Lenne Fevout]

Is it alright if I use my poem: [Title], refer to the other threads of Poetry, for the contest?

[MasterWordSmith]

-_-a What, Im confused lol.

Basically, Im about half way done, but Im kinda busy so it will be a few days. I'm still entirely open to suggestions for the next poetry contest. Would anyone be intrested in writing in a certain form, Insted of just subject matter? Or do you think that would lower the amount of participants too great.

Just throwin stuff out there :p

[Cloud]

Maybe do something different every week or something. Like a haiku one week and then using iambic pentameter the next and then whatever. Theres so much from poetry that I don't think that it would scare people away but instead provide a greater challenge. At least it would make it more interesting for me.

[Neve]

Only two more rounds left, as far as I know, so that wouldn't go on for long ^^. I like the idea of a specific type of poem, though.

I suggest a style that nobody will ever have heard of, so nobody has an unfair advantage if they often write poems in that style ^^.

This site seems fairly helpful:

http://www.shadowpoetry.com/resources/wip/types.html

[MasterWordSmith]

hmmm, japanese death poetry sounds fun, weird format of writing too. :D

Ugh, I am getting nothing done, I have to write a paper on martial arts energy for my black belt test, which is uber lame. It's taking all day and I want to finish the damn results.

But I think that by doing a different form of writing each week, we can get good variety and give people a good oportunity to expand their poetic potential.

just saw this

Shape Poetry

-Shape Poetry is also associated with Concrete Poetry-

Shape is one of the main things that separate prose and poetry. Poetry can take on many formats,
but one of the most inventive forms is for the poem to take on the shape of its subject. Therefore,
if the subject of your poem were of a flower, then the poem would be shaped like a flower. If it
were of a fish, then the poem would take on the shape of a fish. ><<<*>

Shape and Concrete Poetry go hand-in-hand; however, Concrete or Visual Poetry don’t have to
take on the particular shape of the poem’s subject, but rather the wording in the poem can enhance
the effect of the words such as in this line:

an angel tumbling
d
o
w
n
to earth . . .

Designing your own shape poem can be simple and fun, but try not to pick anything that would be
too difficult. We suggest mapping out or drawing your shape first, and then importing the text of
your poem into your shape.

Thanks for the link :)

[BeeCrest]

A challenge like that sounds like fun :) We could do the shape poetry next round.

[Icestorm]

ack.. hmm atm I dont have too much time to think about it.. (due to exams) so I dunno if I could be bothered to take on such a challenge, I barely have enough time for contests as it is.. but to think.. is painful

[MasterWordSmith]

Yea, shape poetry sounds hella fun, check out the link itsovernow put up to see some more ideas :p

[BeeCrest]

Ice: Then don't participate :)

The shape poetry may be a challenge, but I don't see anything wrong with it. A challenge could be fun, and it doesn't seem too mind-strangling.

[Ai]

Shape poetry would be nice...

A style would help the judge indeed..

And on the subject of the judge..don't let this take you away from the div activities MWS remember..:p

[Icestorm]

yeah, yeah.. Bee.. no need to be harsh about it. Im just saying I might not be able to compete. Im not complaining.

[BeeCrest]

Ice: Didn't mean to be harsh.

When are your exams over? We could prolong this specific round to one month (the original set times for the poetry contests) or have a round before the shape one.