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IcYxWiNd
09-01-2006, 04:27 AM
ok..i would say the weaker captins would be hitsugaya,mayuri,Fox head,and mabe soi fon,i cant really say tousen is weak becuz after he left SS he became.....

but anyways i would say hitsugaya is the weakest among the captins.

plz discuss

MissChapina
09-01-2006, 04:34 AM
Everi one is going to sai Hitsugaya -_- u know why becasue he is the youngest & newest captain! But other than him for those reasons I would have to say fox head & unohana because we havent seen her powers & knowing that she is part of the 4th division gives me the impression that she is weak but I know alot of people think that she is one of the strongest. Just mi opinion.

Rukia.Kuchiki
09-01-2006, 04:36 AM
mayuri,Fox head is so strong he kick asses =D

natto
09-01-2006, 04:42 AM
Mayuri + Hitsugaya. And yesss, it's because he's young and inexperienced and will get his ass handed to him by the other captains except for Mayuri. They may be on the same level.

OMAN, SOI FONG = NOT WEAK. XD; Her Suzumebachi will kill anyone if she hits them twice in the same spot. That includes Aizen and all the arrancars. XD; Her zanpakuto is awesommeee. She's got that ultrasonic speed too, so it's not hard for her to get onto someone. The only reason she couldn't kill Yoruichi was 'cause she didn't want to and Yoruichi's the goddess of flash ;>

IcYxWiNd
09-01-2006, 04:45 AM
yes but the reason i put soi fon is becuz soi fon and mayuri became captins around the same time,when urahara and yourichi left SS

Centro
09-01-2006, 04:47 AM
Should this kind of thread be in the bleach battles section?

Reklaw X
09-01-2006, 04:51 AM
I hate to say it but, I think Hitsu is the weakest...or a

orochimaru7810
09-01-2006, 05:04 AM
yea probly hitsugaya since hes probly the most inexperienced and then not to far behind him would have to be mayuri since we really havent seen anything special from yet besides get beat by ishida

Kabane
09-01-2006, 05:06 AM
Most likely it'll be between Mayuri and Hitsugaya...in that case...

Mayuri > Hitsugaya. Seriously, no contest.

Bankai! Now, unless Hitsugaya can defeat Mayuri before he takes his first breath then okay, he won, but that isnt going to happen and once he takes that breath he's doomed.

Hotaru
09-01-2006, 07:20 AM
Most likely it'll be between Mayuri and Hitsugaya...in that case...

Mayuri > Hitsugaya. Seriously, no contest.

Bankai! Now, unless Hitsugaya can defeat Mayuri before he takes his first breath then okay, he won, but that isnt going to happen and once he takes that breath he's doomed.
that is true... and Hitsu's Bankai is also incomplete... unlike Mayuri, who is likely to have mastered Bankai (well, certainly more than Hitsu has anyway)...

Exodus
09-01-2006, 07:47 AM
Wow, this is a pretty hard question, lol.

I guess in my opinion, it will have to go to Ichimaru because as far as we know, he can only extend his blade to far lengths, that is about it.

Other than that it is going to be Hitsugaya for the obvious reasons, too young, newest captain, blah blah blah.

09-01-2006, 07:50 AM
Well What are you guys thinking??? I think Unohana is like the weakest!
Hitsu is cool as :D

SHiKaMaRi
09-01-2006, 07:54 AM
I reckon... Mayuri- His bankai and shikai might have been mastered, but... *ahem* Anyways, Unohana.. is scary. I doubt she's just the best healer in Soul Society... She must've had some battle experience after being captain for soo long...

Injektilo
09-01-2006, 08:24 AM
Definately Hitsugaya, remember that Unohona saw partially through Aizen's 'Complete Hypnosis', leading me to believe that she has crazy reiatsu at the very least, even if she's not combat focused. Mayuri also has an OMFGOVURPWRED Bankai, and really since we haven't seen gloveless Ishida against anyone else we have nothing to really gauge Mayuri's power other than the fact he has a sick Bankai.

Oskt
09-01-2006, 12:10 PM
I agree,i don;t think that Unohana is weak,not only because she saw through Aizen's illusion,but also because Aizen also didn;pt pick a fight with her then...i also remember that even the 11th squad members get jumpy around her...

SoundWave
09-01-2006, 12:22 PM
Hitsugaya.. I would'nt say he's weak.. It's just that the other captains are better/stronger than him..

Oskt
09-01-2006, 12:25 PM
didn't Hitsugaya have his powers limited or something like that?

Karakura Red
09-01-2006, 12:34 PM
i would think it was mayuri man he is weak

Stray4545
09-01-2006, 12:40 PM
yer mayuri he is the weakest he got beat easy when he was in bankai by ishida XD

Kurai-chan
09-01-2006, 03:03 PM
yer mayuri he is the weakest he got beat easy when he was in bankai by ishida XD

hmm.. you can't blame mayuri for loosing in his match with ishida because when ishi released his gloves, his power increased greatly and i think it's almost similar to a shinigami having a bankai. only, there is a great risk in ishida's case..

as for the weakest captain.. i think it would be hitsugaya because:
1. he's the youngest and he has the least experience among the captains.
2. he lets his emotions control him
3. he hasn't reached yet his full potential and this is closely associated with my 1st reason..

natto
09-01-2006, 03:04 PM
But Ishida was like super!quincy :'P I imagine Mayuri is pretty damn powerful, more so than Hitsugaya anyways.

PrestigeDeathGod
09-01-2006, 04:15 PM
Hitsugaya. not because he's a kid but because the other captains are just have more experience.

Kootje
09-01-2006, 04:19 PM
Hitsugaya, only because of the lack of experience look at the difference between him and byakuga or utake(rukia s captian) it's mostly about experience, I mean the 1th captain(captian director) will kick all captian's as just because of experience

razasharp20
09-01-2006, 04:31 PM
Yeah you gotta go with hitsu as the weakest, even though he's still one of my fave characters. Still Ice dragons kick ass and he was handling Gin alright:mrt: :cool:

Seto
09-01-2006, 04:57 PM
Unohana Retsu (good for healing.... But the rest.... :/), Hitsugaya and Mayuri (the reasons for that, look above ^)

natto
09-01-2006, 06:59 PM
Hitsugaya was NOT handling Gin lmfao. Hitsugaya was going to get his left eye punched out if Matsumoto hadn't come and saved him. XD

We can't really say if Unohana is weak... She hasn't fought. KT could pull someone on us and be like 'You expected the 4th captain to be weak?! Hahaha flgmak lol'

Kootje
09-01-2006, 07:03 PM
I think Unohana is very strong, I mean here shikai's a freaking gaint beast that heals the people he eats, it probably has some destructive powers too, and gin owned Hitsu it seemed like he was winning but in reality gin was one step ahead of him

Winter-war
09-01-2006, 07:16 PM
i think no captain is weak at the moment

San-chan
09-01-2006, 11:13 PM
I'd have to say Hitsugaya. Mainly because all of the reasons everybody said above. ^^

*Hollow*Ichigo
09-02-2006, 02:18 AM
lmao i disagree i belive hitsugaya hasnt fought alot agreeing with kootje unohana in battle wise yea she might be weak but off the battle field shes useful ^.^ i say mayuri's the weakest because poison is so weak...but his shikai is better

IcYxWiNd
09-02-2006, 03:25 AM
lmao i disagree i belive hitsugaya hasnt fought alot agreeing with kootje unohana in battle wise yea she might be weak but off the battle field shes useful ^.^ i say mayuri's the weakest because poison is so weak...but his shikai is better


mayuri poison is not weak.Itz probably one of the best abilitys(other than aizens),i mean if u take one breath u would die.and if it wasnt for the antidote ishida would have died.

Lion4128
09-02-2006, 07:23 AM
I'd say it's a toss up between Ichimaru, Komammura, and Soifon.

Hitsugaya after them maybe.

Ichimaru doesn't really seem to have much going for him other than his crazy mind, Soifion has her little 2 hit kill and speed, that's it, and Saijin just sucks. Plus, well, "Destructive art 45, Black Coffin" nuff said.

You'd probably say Mayuri, but he's too smart, and he's toyed with his body too much to be weak. Plus Ashogi Jizou's status effects help a ton.

Oh, and i think Unohana is alot stronger than people give her credit for. Sure she's mainly a healer but you don't get to be captain wihthout being able to kick ass. Plus the whole Aizen thing and their confrontation, he didn't even try to fight her, though she was still under illusion. And she saw through it while examining that fake body.

BaronFel
09-02-2006, 08:42 AM
My friend asked me the other day to list from weakest to strongest the Captains.

I'm gonna have to say
Hitsaguya is the weakest Captain. He couldn't beat Ichimaru, (Notice that Hitsaguya used his shikai first, only at the end did Ichimaru use his shikai). We also see his Bankai the first, so we already know the near extent of his power (Maybe not his full power, see Byakuya's Bankai stage 1 and stage 2 lol).

Second would be Komamura, His bankai (from what we can only assume) would seem sluggish and slow, but powerful. And yes, he did go against Zaraki and Aizen, but still, his Bankai doesn't seem to be strong (comparatively). Though, of course, I may be wrong, and he'll have some super crazy move he can do with it in the future :(

Ollson
09-02-2006, 09:23 AM
I think everybody is underestimating Hitsuguya.
Those of you that say that Gin would have won the fight.... is completely wrong (according to me).
Gin said that he was going to stop Hitsuguya, which he can't do unless he fights seriously.
He also said that he stopped fooling around because Hitsuguya was going to kill him.
So they were both fighting seriously, but in the end, Hitsuguya was the one that won (if it wasn't for Gin fighting dirty and trying to kill Hinamori).

So before they went to hueco moundo (sp?), Gin was most likely the weakest one (don't know if he's gotten stronger while being there).
Followed by Mayuri, his shikai and bankai are really sweet, but they're sluggish and can be pretty easily avoided.
And Komamura, he's strong, but he is slow aswell.

Achilles
09-02-2006, 10:58 AM
I think Mayuri is the weakest

Chrono Detector
09-02-2006, 11:21 AM
I would say Unohana is weak, but we've never seen her fight so that remains a mystery.

Z-man
09-02-2006, 11:23 AM
Mayuri + Soi fon

Because the only reason they became captains was because the other two left

Ollson
09-02-2006, 11:32 AM
Mayuri + Soi fon
Because the only reason they became captains was because the other two left

Which other two?
I'm guessing you mean Uruhara and Yoruichi, but Yoruichi wasn't a captain, she was head of spec ops.
And Soifon is pretty strong, she's really fast (she was actually faster than Yoruichi) and her Zanpakuto has a very effective ability.

Z-man
09-02-2006, 12:27 PM
Which other two?
I'm guessing you mean Uruhara and Yoruichi, but Yoruichi wasn't a captain, she was head of spec ops.
And Soifon is pretty strong, she's really fast (she was actually faster than Yoruichi) and her Zanpakuto has a very effective ability.
She is pretty fast but for the captains shes not that good. It would be pretty hard to hit the exact same spot twice.

Karakura Red
09-02-2006, 12:33 PM
yeh it seemed hard for soifong to catch and hit the exact spot at the same time. But the mark stays until she calls it off. She could wait till u sleep or smthing

Kootje
09-02-2006, 12:39 PM
I think everybody is underestimating Hitsuguya.
Those of you that say that Gin would have won the fight.... is completely wrong (according to me).
Gin said that he was going to stop Hitsuguya, which he can't do unless he fights seriously.
He also said that he stopped fooling around because Hitsuguya was going to kill him.
So they were both fighting seriously, but in the end, Hitsuguya was the one that won (if it wasn't for Gin fighting dirty and trying to kill Hinamori).

So before they went to hueco moundo (sp?), Gin was most likely the weakest one (don't know if he's gotten stronger while being there).
Followed by Mayuri, his shikai and bankai are really sweet, but they're sluggish and can be pretty easily avoided.
And Komamura, he's strong, but he is slow aswell.
I disagree big time, Ichimaru owned him, If i recall right matsumoto saved hits, also ichimaru is too crazy like a psycho he has something up his sleave he hardly takes a fight serious, kinda like hollowichigo but of course weaker, a joke like personage

Diaboliky_kun
09-02-2006, 12:49 PM
Mayuri is the weakest. His bankai ( i think) is the weakest

IcYxWiNd
09-02-2006, 03:38 PM
I'd say it's a toss up between Ichimaru, Komammura, and Soifon.

Hitsugaya after them maybe.

Ichimaru doesn't really seem to have much going for him other than his crazy mind, Soifion has her little 2 hit kill and speed, that's it, and Saijin just sucks. Plus, well, "Destructive art 45, Black Coffin" nuff said.

You'd probably say Mayuri, but he's too smart, and he's toyed with his body too much to be weak. Plus Ashogi Jizou's status effects help a ton.

Oh, and i think Unohana is alot stronger than people give her credit for. Sure she's mainly a healer but you don't get to be captain wihthout being able to kick ass. Plus the whole Aizen thing and their confrontation, he didn't even try to fight her, though she was still under illusion. And she saw through it while examining that fake body.



lol ichimaru is at least byakyua level so he is not weak,remember he became captin around the time byakyua did.

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I think everybody is underestimating Hitsuguya.
Those of you that say that Gin would have won the fight.... is completely wrong (according to me).
Gin said that he was going to stop Hitsuguya, which he can't do unless he fights seriously.
He also said that he stopped fooling around because Hitsuguya was going to kill him.
So they were both fighting seriously, but in the end, Hitsuguya was the one that won (if it wasn't for Gin fighting dirty and trying to kill Hinamori).

So before they went to hueco moundo (sp?), Gin was most likely the weakest one (don't know if he's gotten stronger while being there).
Followed by Mayuri, his shikai and bankai are really sweet, but they're sluggish and can be pretty easily avoided.
And Komamura, he's strong, but he is slow aswell.

nope.gin owned hitsu jsut like what kootje said.
gin only used his shikai at the very end while hitsu was blasting away with his..well 2 shots with it

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razasharp20
09-02-2006, 03:49 PM
I merely said Hitsu wa handling Gin, not outright whipping his ass. And if you think Hitsu got whipped thats just retarded i don't think they'd ever let any captain get there ass outright handed to them for the simple fact that Captains are supposed to be the strongest. And saying Hitsu is the weakest when the only battles he's been in pit him against someone manipulating his friends and then again vs Aizen and Gin so he never really had a straight up fight anyway.

natto
09-02-2006, 04:17 PM
I think Gin was about to release his shikai to punch out Hitsugaya's left eye. Oh nooo, Hitsugaya had him totally WHIPPED! With a bloody left eye of course, if Matsumoto hadn't come to save him. Does it LOOK like Gin was fighting seriously? Hitsugaya comes at him with full force, freaky reiatsu and all Gin does is dodge and corner him. He proceeds to get his sleeve torn off and an icy arm and still manages to corner Hitsugaya. If you think Gin was weak, this was *before* he went to HM, so if Gin = weak, Hitsugaya = really weak. Besides, you think Gin would only simply be able to dodge every other captain's attack if they were going seriously? Oh yes, Gin can totally outrun Tousen and Soi Fong and Byakuya. Hmm.

Kay, fine, who's weaker than Hitsugaya then? People say Mayuri, but Mayuri was up against 'SUPA!QUINCY Ishida', who is really freakin' powerful ;/ Do you think uh, Soi Fong who can kill someone in 2 hits with ultra speed is weaker than him? What about Komamura and Tousen, whose bankai are freakin' kickass? Or wait, is he stronger than Kenpachi? Weakest link = Hitsugaya. :'D

MultipleCyrosis
09-02-2006, 05:06 PM
Well...I'm pretty sure that Hitsugaya wouldnt be given the most powerful ice type soul slayer in soul society by kubo if he was supposed to be the weakest captain.

I'm gonna go with a different direction here, and choose the weakest captain to be...Ukitake. Don't get me wrong, Ukitake is awesome. Just that, it seems that the manga/anime is implying that he has some sort of chronic disease and a weak body. Placing him against any of the other captains with this weak body would probably result in him going down (though not without a good fight).

razasharp20
09-02-2006, 05:52 PM
Well...I'm pretty sure that Hitsugaya wouldnt be given the most powerful ice type soul slayer in soul society by kubo if he was supposed to be the weakest captain.

I'm gonna go with a different direction here, and choose the weakest captain to be...Ukitake. Don't get me wrong, Ukitake is awesome. Just that, it seems that the manga/anime is implying that he has some sort of chronic disease and a weak body. Placing him against any of the other captains with this weak body would probably result in him going down (though not without a good fight).

agrees. guy will probably croak before battles done

SLVR
09-02-2006, 05:52 PM
Hitsugaya. Cocky people always get beatdown when they swear vengence unless thier the main character which he isnt

IcYxWiNd
09-02-2006, 09:22 PM
Well...I'm pretty sure that Hitsugaya wouldnt be given the most powerful ice type soul slayer in soul society by kubo if he was supposed to be the weakest captain.

I'm gonna go with a different direction here, and choose the weakest captain to be...Ukitake. Don't get me wrong, Ukitake is awesome. Just that, it seems that the manga/anime is implying that he has some sort of chronic disease and a weak body. Placing him against any of the other captains with this weak body would probably result in him going down (though not without a good fight).



ok i disagree big time,Ukitake was one of the earliest captins alongside shinsun,that means he is one of the strongest in terms of exp,but we have never seen him really fight so cant say if he is really strong,but he is definatly not the weakest.

BaronFel
09-02-2006, 09:24 PM
Ukitake did survive a fight against a pissed off Yamamoto (along with Kyouraku). Dunno whta happenend in it, but still, one would have to think thats respectable.

Ollson
09-02-2006, 10:31 PM
Ukitake did survive a fight against a pissed off Yamamoto (along with Kyouraku). Dunno whta happenend in it, but still, one would have to think thats respectable.

Not only did he (they) survive, he (they) did it without as much a scratch on him (them).

I actually think that it's impossible to say which captain is the weakest one.
We simply don't know enough about any of them.
But Ukitake, Shunsui, Unohana, Byakuya (, Aizen if you still count him as a captain) and Yamamoto are the strongest ones.

So it's between Soi Fong, Mayuri, Kamamura, Hitsuguya (, Gin, Tousen if they're included) and Kenpachi.

Mugen
09-02-2006, 11:12 PM
I would have to say Hitugaya only because he`s the most inexperienced.But If you give him a few hundred years he`ll most likely be one of the strongest Capitains around.

S.J.Shinigami
09-02-2006, 11:34 PM
i gotta say hitsuguya too. probably because of his lack of experience, not power.

Exodus
09-03-2006, 12:11 AM
Well, does the captain that Zaraki killed count? Because he must be really weak if he died to a guy who doesn't know bankai just yet.

ManjiSTP
09-03-2006, 12:20 AM
Yeah but that guy still became a captain without knowing bankai, shikai or even the name of his sword! He's the only person to have ever done that, you know.

Kootje
09-03-2006, 12:28 AM
manji I think he meant the captain that was slaught by Zaraki, to be weak not Zaraki himself;) Even after reading some manga i still say Hitsu

Hirako Shinji
09-03-2006, 12:29 AM
Hitsuyaga is weakest... He is just inexperienced though...

natto
09-03-2006, 01:03 AM
Wait, if Hitsugaya = not weakest, whose the weakest? >__>;

.:PinkSoup:.
09-03-2006, 05:53 AM
Erm . Hitsugaya? He's probably lack of exprience as he's de youngest of all of the captains .

MultipleCyrosis
09-03-2006, 11:58 AM
Not only did he (they) survive, he (they) did it without as much a scratch on him (them).
I actually think that it's impossible to say which captain is the weakest one.
We simply don't know enough about any of them.
But Ukitake, Shunsui, Unohana, Byakuya (, Aizen if you still count him as a captain) and Yamamoto are the strongest ones.
So it's between Soi Fong, Mayuri, Kamamura, Hitsuguya (, Gin, Tousen if they're included) and Kenpachi.

Pft. Of course they did it without a scratch. There was hardly any fighting - close to none, if my memory serves me correctly. They just released their shikai, and talked a fair bit.

Anyway, point is, Ukitake is weak now. Ok, so he was one of the first captains, but even so, just like Hitsugaya's lack of experience cripples him, Ukitake has some mystery illness that seems to cripple him greatly.

Kootje
09-03-2006, 12:08 PM
Pft. Of course they did it without a scratch. There was hardly any fighting - close to none, if my memory serves me correctly. They just released their shikai, and talked a fair bit.
Anyway, point is, Ukitake is weak now. Ok, so he was one of the first captains, but even so, just like Hitsugaya's lack of experience cripples him, Ukitake has some mystery illness that seems to cripple him greatly.
But when there a fight Ukitake suddenly is way strong and not ill at all, so that doesn't count and he has that desease for a while now and still standing, Also Zaraki is so not weak, he owned Tousen's bankai without even shikai(which he seems to have learned) he would've pwn Foxcaptain too if he didn't run, Hitsu is the weakest In the manga he seems weaker than Renji en ikkaku

raisins
09-03-2006, 02:02 PM
i'll say mayuri's the weakest cause she is an expert in healing, she's not meant to fight. But SS could not survive without a healer. next is probably soifong?

Exodus
09-03-2006, 02:07 PM
i'll say mayuri's the weakest cause she is an expert in healing, she's not meant to fight. But SS could not survive without a healer. next is probably soifong?


When you say Mayuri, do you mean Retsu?

MultipleCyrosis
09-03-2006, 02:17 PM
But when there a fight Ukitake suddenly is way strong and not ill at all, so that doesn't count and he has that desease for a while now and still standing, Also Zaraki is so not weak, he owned Tousen's bankai without even shikai(which he seems to have learned) he would've pwn Foxcaptain too if he didn't run, Hitsu is the weakest In the manga he seems weaker than Renji en ikkaku

Hmm...fair point you make there about Ukitake. Though, I wonder, what would've happened if the fight actually escalated into a real fight, not just a "lets release our shikai's" kind of thing. Though Ukitake may have been standing, it wasn't as if he was doing any hardcore fighting...

I agree about Kenpachi though. Definitely not weak.

natto
09-03-2006, 02:38 PM
Kenpachi = not weak XD; Noone else in SS has reiatsu like him. I mean, Byakuya's is intimidating but Ken's CRUSHES you.

Ukitate isn't weak either, though the disease may hinder him slightly. I really doubt one of the first captains is in capable of fighting >:

lilmajin
09-03-2006, 08:31 PM
Hitsugaya has won over Ichimaru, Shawlong, and Luppi (dun care how he did it). Ichimaru took him seriously and lost.

natto - what are you talking about? Hitsugaya guarded Ichimaru's shinkai. Think about it.....one of his arms was frozen, the other was holding the sword that Hitsugaya is completely crouched under.......so tell me HOW IN THE HELL WOULD HE HAVE DEFENDED HIMSELF against a stab through the heart?

The weakest captain is indeed Mayuri. He is the only captain that (1) got his wig split, (2) turned into doo doo, and (3) when down the drain where he belonged.

Yes we can judge him based on his performance vs ishida. Quincy and shinigami powers are similar. Thus, it was "down the drain's" bankai vs Ishida's bankai.....and Ishida's won.

Hitsugaya can be inexperienced and young, but he has THE MOST POWERFUL Ice/Snow type Zanpakuto in all of SC.

So this is his current record IIRC:
He defeated the previous captain of his division in order to become captain.
He defeated the coward Captain Ichimaru.
He was defeated by Aizen (like everyone else).
He defeated Shawlong (with limiter).
He was defeated by Luppi (one hit).
He defeated Luppi....

He is at 4-2 right now until he defeats one of the Bounto members.......which I have a good feeling that he will.

Now let's look at Mayuri's record..........
He defeated his previous captain.
He was defeated by Ishida and turned to doo doo and went down the drain...

Hitsugaya has proved that he is strong and cold........

Ollson
09-03-2006, 09:21 PM
We don't know how Hitsuguya and Mayuri became captains.
They may have taken the weird test instead of defeating the former captain.
And Mayuri wasn't defeated by "Ishida's Bankai", when Ishida removed the glove, he got "imeasurable" powers.
If i don't remember incorrectly (which i doubt i do).
Which means that he would have beaten any other captain, not just Mayuri.

Zanga
09-03-2006, 09:28 PM
LOLOLOLOL1!?!?!?!?!?!?!?111one? HITSUGAYA BEAT ICHIMARU?!?!!? LOOOL.

Buddy, you're dumb. Watch the fight again. Hitsugaya was outclassed fully, Ichimaru didn't even hold his sword with his other hand and he was blocking and swinging his blade at Hitsugaya with twice the ferocity. ICHIMARU TOOK HIM SERIOUSLY?!?! LOOOOL. A guy smiling like a fox the whole fight, using basically only one arm, totallly stopped hyourinmaru's physical form with his blade without being driven back an inch? RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT buddy.

And when Hitsugaya froze his arm, you think Ichimaru was trapped right there? You obviously forgot a captains main backup. Bankai. Ichimaru could've yelled out the damn word and for all we know, Hitsugaya probably would've died INSTANTLY.

And I HATE how ppl say Mayuri lost to Ishida. Ok please tell me, WHO COULD STOP ISHIDA IN THAT SHORT TIME? Aizen, Yami-jii, and maybe Ichigo in bankai form. Hitsugaya would get shot down. Hard. Ishida is FASTER than a normal captain's shikai, so that means some fast captains like Shunsui and Soi Fong could get to fight him, but he overpowers alot of captains.

And please tell how do you fight poison? Mayuri has good speed, an awesome shikai ability, and an ugly, but strong bankai. Plus he has weird body attatchments that could give him the upperhand, like that queer arm stretching thing.


Nuff said, Hitsugaya's downright the weakest. Plus he has an annoying cocky attitude.

lilmajin
09-04-2006, 01:20 AM
Zanga - Ichimaru got his hair cut and his sleeve cut........what did Hitsugaya get cut in that battle? I don't give a damn about him holding his sword with one hand........hell that's a dump reason because Kenpachi NEVER held his sword with both hands and still lost to Ichigo. He didn't stop the hyourinmaru if his arm got frozen you DUMB ****!! If Hinamori wasn't there, then Ichimaru would've died with his Shinkai vs Hitsu's Shinkai. YOU WATCH THE FIGHT AGAIN!!

Some of you people are downright Hitsu haters. No one likes a weak character, I sure as hell don't. Tell me why he IS the 2nd most popular Bleach character behind Ichigo........cuz he looks cool? Pssh.

Hitsugaya is the all-out cold captain that fights a lot. Hate him if you want to.......he's the 2nd most popular for a reason.

Mayuri sucks..........and he has proven that he sucks. He got punk'd by Kenpachi, a guy that doesn't know his zanpakuto's name, like a lil *****.

Ishida had immeasurable power, but that didn't make him stronger than Yamamoto, Aizen, Byakuya, nor Ichigo did it? No excuses, not even for Mayuri. Baku picked Ishida to showboat on the weakest captain that no one cares about for a reason..........cuz he's weak.

Mayuri is the proven weakest captain.......nuff said.

Guy
09-04-2006, 06:24 AM
I love Hitsu, but I do think he is the weakest. However, before someone flames me, I will say that he has the MOST POTENTIAL out of all the captains. I mean, he's so young and he became a captain! Think about it, in the flashback episode. Hinamori joined the Shinigami school long before Hitsu was even interested in becoming a Shinigami. And yet, Hinamori is only a vice-capt., while Hitsu is a full capt. For now, I'm gonna say he's the weakest, but I do think he has the potential to become one of the best.

We don't know if Ishida could've pwned Aizen, Yama-jii, or Byakuya. We did know he pwned Mayuri. However, if the powers of Quincy and a Shinigami are similar, let's not forget the fact that before Ishida powered up (and his granddad said that taking off the glove will give him an INSURMOUNTABLE POWER in a short time), he was getting owned by Mayuri... badly (with his weird stretching knife ear or something). I still think Mayuri sucks, but maybe not that terrible.

So... worst captain? Probably Hitsu, Tousen (he got owned by Zaraki... who didn't even have Shikai), and Kommamura (again, Zaraki was owning him. He even taunted that Komamura was too weak to be a captain. And... Zaraki smashed his helmet.)

Miyata
09-04-2006, 12:47 PM
I think Mayuri is the weakest captain because he not only got practically annhialated by Ishida but because he also underestimated him. A captain should always take their opponents seriously and when Mayuri took Ishida for a joke, that made him look weak to me.

MultipleCyrosis
09-04-2006, 01:18 PM
hum....so it seems that its between Hitsugaya and Mayuri is it?

well, I think this should be a pretty easy decision to make, easier than all the previous debates, simply because we know both their bankai's, and have watched them in fights.

Seems to me, though, that KT pitted Ishida vs. Mayuri because he was the weakest captain. Because, at that time, Ishida was relatively weak...and he still beat Mayuri. Add that to the fact that Mayuri took over Uraharas division after he left...

Well, I'm inclined to believe that Hitsugaya could beat down Mayuri if it came to a one on one.

Guy
09-04-2006, 07:01 PM
Hey, yeah, but let's not forget that Mayuri was pwning Ishida before Ishida took off the glove.

I think Tousen should be the weakest captain cuz he's stupid. If I were him, I would've slit Zaraki's throat when I set off my bankai. But nope, Tousen chose to mess with him, and he got pwned in the end.

Winter-war
09-04-2006, 07:07 PM
mayuri and tousen are strong captains they just got owned because other characters had to show off there powers or strength. like ishida versus mayuri. we had to see ishida's true power and zwith the zaraki tousen fight we had to see how crazy powerful that man was.

IcYxWiNd
09-05-2006, 05:37 AM
Some of you people are downright Hitsu haters. No one likes a weak character, I sure as hell don't. Tell me why he IS the 2nd most popular Bleach character behind Ichigo........cuz he looks cool? Pssh.


hitsugaya was made to be cool.kinda like saskue in naruto(even though every1 hates him now.)


Mayuri is the proven weakest captain.......nuff said.

how has mayuri proven weakest captin?as far as i know he has only lsot to ishida who was strong as hell when he removed his glove,alot of ppl are underestimating ishida when he takes off his glove.

Zanga
09-05-2006, 01:44 PM
]He didn't stop the hyourinmaru if his arm got frozen you DUMB ****!! If Hinamori wasn't there, then Ichimaru would've died with his Shinkai vs Hitsu's Shinkai. YOU WATCH THE FIGHT

Ugh no. Hitsugaya's shikai was stopped by Ichigmaru's sword. It was obvious that his intent was to freeze him up entirely, but only got one hand? HOLY SHIT HIS ARM WAS FROZEN, BUT IT WASN'T EVEN THE HAND HE WAS USING TO WIELD HIS SWORD :o And you do know Shinsou can be made into a large slicer with just the twitch of his blade. The only reason he didn't continue the fight is because Rangiku entered the scene, otherwise, Hinamori would be dead and Hitsugaya would be dead.

Some of you people are downright Hitsu haters. No one likes a weak character, I sure as hell don't. Tell me why he IS the 2nd most popular Bleach character behind Ichigo........cuz he looks cool? Pssh.

Go read the "Why does everyone like Hitsugaya" thread. Not one person said "0mfG, H17sUg4ya 1s t3h ub3r". It's already stated, a little kid as a captain, white hair, cocky attitude and a dragon shikai/bankai. So shut it.

Mayuri sucks..........and he has proven that he sucks. He got punk'd by Kenpachi, a guy that doesn't know his zanpakuto's name, like a lil *****.

If Hitsugaya was pitted against Ishida powered up, good game. Hitsugaya would probably be made more of a fool than Mayuri was. At least Mayuri can take soome hits, Hitsugaya is down with one shoulder slash. Remember, he's just a kid.

Ishida had immeasurable power, but that didn't make him stronger than Yamamoto, Aizen, Byakuya, nor Ichigo did it? No excuses, not even for Mayuri. Baku picked Ishida to showboat on the weakest captain that no one cares about for a reason..........cuz he's weak.

In that short time, Ishida could give ANYONE(cept aizen) a good fight. All he had to do was continously absorb spirit power and launch uber arrows.

Nuff said. Hitsugaya has a long way to go. Maybe he has potential, but that is it. With his small body and an incomplete bankai, he's won't fare well against other captain level monsters at all.

FYI, Tousen lost cause he's an idiot.

syn
09-05-2006, 02:47 PM
He defeated the previous captain of his division in order to become captain.


Now let's look at Mayuri's record..........
He defeated his previous captain.

Where did you get this from?

Tousen said there are 3 ways one can achieve a captains seat

1. You have to pass the exam in front of Yamma-jii and in the presence of at least 3 more captains
2. You have to be recommened by more then 6 captains and be approved by more then 3 of the other 7
3. You have to defeat the current captain in front of more then 200 squad members

We only know how Zaraki became a captain. Others are more or less a mystery.

Decado
09-05-2006, 02:50 PM
Unohana is definetly the weakest IMO. she pissed me off as well in ep 60 or something...when she saw Hitsu go against Aizen...didn't help or nething!!
...lol, too weak that's y...

soraman2412
09-05-2006, 09:00 PM
Unohana is definetly the weakest IMO. she pissed me off as well in ep 60 or something...when she saw Hitsu go against Aizen...didn't help or nething!!
...lol, too weak that's y...

lol....truth hurts..but i guess its because her ability is not to fight in the combat but because she's the best at healing people.....

Abe
09-05-2006, 09:46 PM
The weakest captains are probably Unohana, and Mayuri.

white-porcelain
09-08-2006, 07:35 AM
Personally I'd go with Komamura and Tousen...They could do absolutley nothing against Zaraki. And Komamura did as much agains Aizen as Hitsugaya did ie. nothing. Well, Tousen's probably gonna be stronger now...obviously, but during SS arc he was definitley one of the weaker ones imo.
I'm surprised how Unohana is treated as such a weakling. To me her uttermost calmness all the time, even when facing Aizen suggests that she has some power to back her up. She's definitley not the strongest fighter around, but I wouldn't say she's close to the weakest either.

shaoxiong
09-08-2006, 08:06 AM
4th Division Captain: Unohana Retsu
wahahaha she does not fight.

xHitsugaya
09-08-2006, 08:37 AM
Hitsugaya. He has a lack of experience. But he's still cool :D

chiking1
09-08-2006, 08:58 AM
Hitsugaya is definately weakest, because he lacks experience, and he couldn't beat Gin.

kagurazenka
09-08-2006, 02:03 PM
gomen ne..Ukitake i think,cuz he's sick n all that..i really dun wanna admit this!!and of coz,wierd mayuri guy..

Ichi-Zoro 3
09-08-2006, 02:25 PM
Let's remove unohana coz she's not a fighter.. I'd say its hitsugaya because he has a little difficulty in improving his bankai and fighting skills...

neroahs
09-08-2006, 05:10 PM
I rather think Komamura is rather weak , but we have not seen him do real battle yet, so it does not count. Unohana is a healer, so I doubt it that she would go fighting anytime soon. All in all, I believe Hitsuguya is the weakest of them all. He has a whicked bankai and shikai, but he is young, and he does not have years of experience.

lilmajin
09-08-2006, 08:21 PM
Zanga - Gin woulda lost that fight..........

I also disagree that Unohana is the weakest captain........we don't know shit about her fighting skills. She is the second oldest member of Soul Society behind Yamamoto, therefore her experience should be very high. She also was fearless in the confrontation with Aizen and knew about his scheme better than any other character on the show. Aizen also did not fight her (maybe he knows something about her that we don't know). For all we know, she might be the second strongest captain of the Gotei 13.

I think that the weakest captains are Mayuri (all out weakling), Tousen (lost to Kenpachi), Komomaru (was losing to Kenpachi), Ichimaru (lost to Hitsugaya), and Kenpachi (lost to Ichigo's shinkai).

I think that because they'd all get pwned by Hitsugaya in real combat regardless of their skill/experience. He has a very cheap zanpakuto and I can't see him losing to any of the captains I stated above.

Question for you haters: Do you honestly think that Hitsugaya would lose to the same Ichigo that beat Kenpachi (a guy with no shinkai/bankai)?

Ichigo has only beaten characters that don't use any special zanpakuto like renji (extending Zabimaru), Ikkaku (once again extending), Kenpachi (no shinkai/bankai) in the anime.

When Byakuya let him win, he used shunpo to teleport while Ichigo couldn't even move (so who really won the fight). Byakuya is the only character that Ichigo fought that uses Kidou and has a special shinkai/bankai..........Ichigo technically lost that fight.

My point is that Kubo put Ichigo against Kenpachi because Hitsugaya would've str8 up frozen Ichigo..........no more bleach.

crash5s
09-08-2006, 08:27 PM
Hitsugaya-

Apart from his lack of combat ability/skills he is also way to emotional, understandable being a child and all but still. He let's himself get baited and then bam "bankai" which didn't work at all against Gin, and failed horribly against Aizen.

I can't hold Aizen against him because Aizen is very strong. However Gin... Gin isn't weak, very far from that. However Gin managed to 1. bait him, 2. was goofing around toying with him and still winning. Had Gin become serious bam no more Hitsu. But Gins goal wasn't to kill him just mess with him and stir up trouble... which he acomplished.

He'll need to gain a lot of skill and combat ability, and then grow up before he stops being the weakest.

Cloud
09-08-2006, 10:40 PM
id have to go with hitsugaya for now. unless he has some sort of hidden power that he is hiding(which is very very unlikely) then he just isnt as strong as one might think. of course in the real world he could destroy absolutely anybody because he could use all the water as his weapon but in SS he just doesnt cut it and probably wouldnt even be able to scratch Zaraki. maybe once hitsugaya learns to control his emotions a bit more like byakuya then he will become able to use his powers better and therefore make him more powerful

natto
09-09-2006, 12:55 AM
Ichigo wouldn't get frozen by Hitsugaya o_____o; He has enough reiatsu to at least partially barrier him from strong attacks, and believe me, Ichi!bankai would SO outrun Hitsugaya's bankai ice dragon. <: Hell, Ichigo could most likely outrun Hitsugaya's ice dragon w/o bankai. I can't really see your logic in how Byakuya won the fight, Ichi's weak, etc etc. Hitsugaya's ice technique is nowhere near invincible, (like you seem to depict) and ice is easily refuted by alot of other things, not just elements.

Uhh, also, Kenpachi is POWEFUL. e__e; If Hitsugaya had frozen him, he most likely would've just gotten out of it by raw strength. There's no way someone can underestimate him because he doesn't have shikai/bankai. He beat 2 captains, and not because Tousen and Komamura are weaklings either. x/

And imo, there's almost no way that Mayuri could be weaker than Hitsugaya. Mayuri's not only older than Hitsugaya in experience and seniority, Mayuri has a better reign on his emotions and control over his bankai. People only think he's weak 'cause he lost against Ishida, but Ishida was damn powerful when he released his glove. Ishida could fire countless arrows 'cause he had spirit particles all around him >o> I want to see Ishida go up against Hitsugaya and see if Whitey doesn't get as bashed as Mayuri did.

Guy
09-09-2006, 01:22 AM
Ishida's uber arrows would've crushed Hitsugaya's bankai, just like it crushed Mayuri's bankai. However, I still believe Hitsugaya has a lot of potential.

natto
09-09-2006, 01:28 AM
Me too, but proclaiming his bankai/zanpakuto would own everyone else's at this point in the story is going a bit too far ~~;

Guy
09-09-2006, 01:38 AM
Well, I didn't say it would own everyone else's bankai, but I think he has potential. I mean, he became a captain at such a young age.

Zanga
09-09-2006, 02:00 AM
Hitsugay is a prodigy. That means he learns fast. Potential are for people who can go far, but Hitsugay goes far in a short time. In Bleach, shinigami have limits. Being a prodigy only means he reaches his sooner than others. He could already be close to it right now in the story for all we know.

Guy
09-09-2006, 03:27 AM
Well, we don't know if he's used up his potentials, or if it's just the beginning.

Cloud
09-09-2006, 03:38 AM
i doubt that he has reached his limit. seeing as he is so young and a prodigy then his strength is probably able to increase a lot more as long as he trains hard unlike most prodigys(such as kakashi who is the equal of gai who he could have beaten easily if he wasnt so lazy before when he trained)

~*StÓÑy RèL0ÂÐeD™
09-09-2006, 03:55 AM
i hate 2 say it...but its...... Hitsu, yes, in the real world he can control the enitre atmosphere, as long as there are air (coz air got water vapor)...well but in SS....yea, poor him..lol

Guy
09-09-2006, 06:02 AM
It's very probable that he has a lot of potentials, considering that he is a captain. SS is not stupid enough to put someone so young and yet, has already reached his potential.

paklads
09-09-2006, 11:40 AM
Unohana is not weak, well thats what i think

MultipleCyrosis
09-09-2006, 12:28 PM
Yes...if unohana was weak, I wonder why Aizen didn't just smash her up.

Anyway, even if Mayuri has better control of his bankai, doesn't mean that Hitsugaya's bankai couldn't beat his.

Also, I reckon if Kubo really knew that Hitsugaya was the weakest captain, he wouldn't make Yamamoto send him down to earth to fight the arrancars. That would just be stupid; sending the weakest captain down to earth to fight the arrancars when there would be a massive risk of them dying - and soul society is already 3 captains short anyway.

Z-man
09-09-2006, 12:49 PM
You have a good point. But maybe Hitsuguya is weak but is strong enought o defeat them. I mean Hitsuguya has got to be weak compared to the rest of the captains. He got one cut in the arm by Aizen and he dyed while Ichigo gets cut sooo many times by Renji and Byakuya. And he is still alive.

Zenpou Tenshin
09-09-2006, 03:38 PM
Hitsugaya...........

Guy
09-09-2006, 07:03 PM
Hmm... maybe it'd be better of the topic changed to "Who is the weakest captain, after Hitsugaya"? Cause it's unanimous that Hitsu is the weakest.

MultipleCyrosis
09-10-2006, 12:47 AM
@Zman

Aizen is pretty damn strong to compare him to Byakuya and Renji though.

IcYxWiNd
09-10-2006, 06:26 AM
Hmm... maybe it'd be better of the topic changed to "Who is the weakest captain, after Hitsugaya"? Cause it's unanimous that Hitsu is the weakest.


rofl i was jsut thinking about that too....

Thelindra
09-10-2006, 06:29 AM
How abt Gin? he seems quite weak...maybe juz becuz be haven seen his bankai yet XD

Cloud
09-10-2006, 06:35 AM
i actually think Gin is quite powerful. Why else would Aizen have him help him with his goals? He could hypnotize a lot of people and i doubt that he would choose a weakling to be his helper

Guy
09-10-2006, 06:44 AM
I think Gin is powerful. Years ago, when Hinamori just entered the academy, several huge hollows were slaying Shinigamis like crazy without so much a scratch. Gin appeared and easily killed several hollows without breaking a sweat.

patrickteng240
09-10-2006, 08:18 AM
Ya ,i agree with you guys (hitsugaya is the most weakness among 13 gotei captain)

Thelindra
09-10-2006, 08:49 AM
why hitsu? *thinks* maybe hes juz too young....

yukihime
09-10-2006, 11:43 AM
M-a-y-u-r-i!!! His caterpiller bankai was pwned by Ishida so easily:Haha
And he became green liquid after it:Haha

Thelindra
09-10-2006, 11:59 AM
lol how can i 4get abt IT~ stupid captain have to use a lousy method to escape... tsk

Habanero
09-10-2006, 01:18 PM
Well... When ishida took off his glove I bet he was pretty much able to woop every captain's ass. So, imo we can't say much about Mayuri.

Hitsu vs. Gin... Hard to say anything really. Hitsu could have perhaps sliced through Ichimaru after he got his arm locked and caught him off-guard, but as you can see Hitsu held back since he thought the fight was over. On the other hand Gin would have probably been able to cut Hitsu's head in two with Shinsou. I'm not really a fan of Hitsugaya, but some of you really exxaggerate his weakness, if there ever was any.

Tousen, as mush as I hate the guy, would probably have had much better chances with some other captain than Zaraki.

In my opinion, weakest is Komamura. Or at least he hasn't shown anything impressive yet...

crash5s
09-10-2006, 05:40 PM
I think Gin is powerful. Years ago, when Hinamori just entered the academy, several huge hollows were slaying Shinigamis like crazy without so much a scratch. Gin appeared and easily killed several hollows without breaking a sweat.

Also given how absurdly strong Aizen is he wouldn't cherry pick a wimp. Gin is probably absurdly strong.

He just hides it well.

AznPoi
09-10-2006, 05:48 PM
Ok, all of you guys that said Hitsugaya was winning in the Hitsugaya Vs Gin fight are obviously wrong. There's been many debates on this and in the end it's been decided that Gin would have beaten Hitsugaya if he was serious. He was laughing at Hitsugaya the whole time while Hitsugaya is going all out on him.

Secondly, about Hitsugaya being able to freeze Gin's arm. Well you have to re-examine the fight. Hitsugaya already release his shikai while Gin was still in his normal zanpakuto form.

shikai > normal zanpakuto

natto
09-10-2006, 06:20 PM
Gin hasn't shown us anything yet, except for a bit of Shinsou, which is just like a bullet streak. Every zanpakuto, even in shikai has more abilities than just one, and I'm willing to bet that Gin has more uses for Shinsou than just extending it. :c Gin isn't weak, he just hasn't shown us anything yet.

Guy
09-10-2006, 10:44 PM
I think Komamura or Tousen is the weakest. Tousen was just plain stupid. It doesn't matter how strong you are, but if you have no tactics or stupid tactics, you can still lose. Komamura just plain sucks cause he lost at every battle he attended. Even Zaraki taunted that he was too weak to be a captain.

Habanero
09-10-2006, 10:45 PM
Ok, all of you guys that said Hitsugaya was winning in the Hitsugaya Vs Gin fight are obviously wrong.

If you were referring to my comment, I didn't say he was winning. But neither was Gin. Hitsu made two attacks with his shikai, Ichimaru one. Now is that some sort of ultimate explanation for the overpoweredness of Gin in that fight?

Thelindra
09-11-2006, 06:09 AM
Komamura is the weakest than? stupidly went against Aizen XD

Yachiru>.<
09-11-2006, 08:57 AM
haha its a tough decision..but ill definitely choose ukitake as the weakest among gotei 13's cap'tn.Surely hitsugaya does seems to be the second weakest among them =D wish hitsugaya fan wont hate me

Thelindra
09-11-2006, 12:48 PM
Ukitake is not that weak...hes juz sick...ill... >_<

chakra25
09-11-2006, 04:25 PM
Hard to say who's weak since we haven't seen the full extent of everyones bankai. We can't really say that Hitsugaya was weak. He held his own against Gin. In fact, he nearly killed Gin until Gin dragged Hinamori into the combat. Hitsugaya even got Gin serious...

If I had to choose a weakest captain in terms of combat ability, then it would be Unohana Taicho, the healer captain. Her zanpakuto to is used for saving lives. But who knows... we haven't seen her bankai.

lilmajin
09-12-2006, 01:02 AM
Aizen did not pick Kaname Tousen........who is a weakling. Tousen joined on his own accord. Kenpachi owned him for free.

You people that think Hitsu was losing the fight against Gin are wrong. Like I stated b4, Gin got his hair cut, his sleeve cut, arm frozen AND he opened up his eyes (looks like a sign of desperation/seriousness). It's that same look that Zabuza gave Kakashi (when he back-handed him and threw his sword) after Gato appeared (in Naruto). Gin put Hinamori in the fight as a clutch because Shinsou obviously missed it's target. If Hinamori wasn't there, then Gin would've died right after Hitsu guarded Shinsou.

Gin guarded the physical form of Hyrounimaru, correct? Tell me why Hitsugaya was not surprised at all (like Tousen was surprised at Zaraki withstanding his shinkai)? For all we know, Hitsu knew that the ice dragon would be stopped so that he could do what he did (freezing his arm). If you ask anyone new to Bleach to watch episode 48 and tell you who won the fight just by watching it, they'll tell you that Hitsugaya won the fight...........

Aizen has two weaklings following him just like any other main antagonist in any anime as well as a team of much more powerful allies/underlings. Examples........

Aizen = main antagonist aka BOSS
Henchmen = Gin Ichimaru and Kaname Tousen
Task Force (obviously stronger than henchmen) = Arrancars/Espada's

Frieza = 1st main antagonist of DBZ
Henchmen = Dodoria and Zarbon
Task Force = Ginyu Force (obviously stronger than henchmen)

Orochimaru = 1st main antagonist of Naruto
Henchmen = Kabuto, Zaku, Dosu, and Kin
Task Force = Sound Five (Kimimaro would own all under orochimaru)

Now as you can see, the main antagonist doesn't necessarily have the two strongest henchmen on his side.

My conclusion is that Mayuri, Gin, Tousen, Komomaru, and Kenpachi are the weakest captains for now.

All of these names above would get frozen in a battle with Hitsugaya.

Zenpou Tenshin
09-12-2006, 01:05 AM
The weakest captains after hitsugaya are probably tousen and mayuri..........

Cloudarc
09-12-2006, 02:48 AM
In terms of strength and skill i would say Mayuri would be the weakest since the 4th squad specializes in healing havent really seen her fight but that's what i see right now

blackrican
09-12-2006, 03:10 AM
i don't thnk Hitsugaya is the weakest captain. he can hold his own and is a great warrior. he is strong and can kick ass plus if hinamori wasn't in the way, he wouldve killed Gin. i thnk tousin is the weakest captain because his bankai was defeated by Zaraki. so

Hattori
09-12-2006, 03:16 AM
Zaraki Kenpachi. He has the weakest mind. ^_^

Just kidding. Mayuri, really, any of the other captains would pwn him. He wouldn't even be able to release anything against Senbonzakura.

natto
09-12-2006, 03:19 AM
..Everyone stupidly went against Aizen. XD Hitsugaya, Ichigo, Komamura. :'D All got pwned.

If anyone thinks Gin was serious during his fight with Hitsugaya, they're well.. Need new glasses. X) Gin was multitasking~ :D

lilmajin
09-12-2006, 03:59 AM
natto - look at your avatar...........that looks serious to me...

natto
09-12-2006, 04:06 AM
Was he actually into it though? No. o_o; Gin was grinning and throwing jokes, played Hitsugaya until Hitsugaya got his arm and he decided to unveil a bit. That is definitely not the depth of his Shinsou. He wasn't serious in that battle at all. e_e I fear what he would do if he was.

blackrican
09-12-2006, 04:14 AM
no he was. he stopped smiling after awhile and got really serious about the fight. he was no joke with hitsugaya

natto
09-12-2006, 04:16 AM
...before Matsumoto came in and saved Hitsugaya. I wish I had my Bleach eps on this computer and screenshot a few scenes of Gin teasing Whitey. :'[ IMO (don't ignore this guys~ ) Gin serious = Hitsugaya dead.

Guy
09-12-2006, 05:24 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but did Hitsu used Bankai against Gin? Cuz if that's the case, if Gin would've used Bankai... I don't think Hitsu would be in a good situation. But I still love Hitsu!

AznPoi
09-12-2006, 05:28 AM
If you were referring to my comment, I didn't say he was winning. But neither was Gin. Hitsu made two attacks with his shikai, Ichimaru one. Now is that some sort of ultimate explanation for the overpoweredness of Gin in that fight?

Not directed at you >.>

There's some post earlier that I don't want to bother quoting that said Hitsugaya was owning Gin. The reason they gave why Hitsugaya didn't kill Gin was because Hinimori showed up...

keikai89
09-12-2006, 06:38 AM
I can't really tell who is the weakest at this point because I haven't actually seen any of the captains battling each other in detailed full force, however, if I were to say Hitsugaya, it'd definitely be his inexperience and age, blah blah. Give him more time and he'd get really strong and able to make his Bankai complete, since he is afterall, the Genius.
With regards to Ichimaru Gin v.s. Hitsugaya part, it ended in a draw afterall and unless they pull out their bankais both and fight it all out, it'd be equal strength for me at this point. That again, with regards to those who are going to disagree with me, is just my own opinion so it doesn't help for you to argue back. For the Mayuri v.s Ishida part, I have to say that his Bankai failed to impress me in any way and if that resulted in me thinking that he is the weakest, it is still not evident enough to pass off as a fact.
Soi fong in my opinion, isn't all that strong either, but I only see it this way because she hadn't actually fought against any other captain or showed any of her Bankai stuff, and her fight against Yoruichi wasn't impressive either. So this will have to wait too.
For Ukitake, he doesn't appear strong to me as well. A few reasons include the fact that he has a weak constitution, and his narrow 'fight' against the Hollow that controlled his passed away vice captain(Shiba...something). Once again my personal opinion. But we still have to see him in real action.
Unohana, i still need to wait for her to really battle because even though she is in 4th division and she mainly heals, i'm sure she has some impressive fighting ability to actually become a captain.
For Aizen, I have no idea. Hardly seen him in battle aside from all those illusion stuff.
Tousen, would be average strong I suppose. Compared to the others.
Some of the stronger captains, in my opinion would definitely be Zaraki Kenpachi, because he is already this strong despite his inability to perform Bankai, and even Shikai. Inclusive the Yamamoto(his name slipped my mind for now), and Kuchiki Byakuya.
The rest of the captains I didn't discuss in this post, are on the whole, neither strong nor weak in my opinion because I haven't seen enough of their powers to conclude more.

Gettles
09-12-2006, 08:06 AM
Tousen makes a pretty strong case. Considering he's the only person to flat-out lose in a Captian vs Captian fight (and he didn't just loose. He got spanked by restrained Kenpachi)
Beyond that, Mayuri is pretty limited. He doesn't seem like much a fighter, and I doubt he capable enough a swordsmen for his shiki to work. And most of the other Captians would have probebly taken him out before he get to even use his Bankai.

Thelindra
09-12-2006, 08:10 AM
wow....thast a very long post u have there. Ukitake is not that weak, cuz i remembered one part where they said hes talented or smth like that.

Zanga
09-12-2006, 09:58 PM
Ugh, just cause he opens his eyes, that means he's serious? The only reason why hitsugaya got anywhere close to beating Gin was because Gin was dragging the fight on. If he was intending to kill Hitsugay from the begining, Hitsu would lose.

Duffman1087
09-13-2006, 12:06 AM
I dunno that whole inexperience thing isn't a good reason to go by for hitsugaya because who knows how long each captain has had their bankai and how long they have trained to perfect it. From wat i have seen in the anime and manga he seems very strong but he does have one flaw because of his youth and that is that he has a time limit to his bankai but that doesn't mean he is the weakest.....Thats my opinion anyway:winking56

natto
09-13-2006, 12:30 AM
Ukitate has a disease, but he was still one of the first captains. XD Knowing that, he could very well be one of the most powerful, but we don't know far since we haven't seen him fight.

Guy
09-13-2006, 03:01 AM
Man, everyone thinks Ukitake is weak. I think he'd be very strong without that illness. I mean, he didn't even get scratched by Yama-jii, the strongest captain.

keikai89
09-13-2006, 11:55 AM
I don't think that Ukitake is weak. He's just not very strong in my own opinion. And to comtemplate about the situations if he doesn't have his illness, well, he does afterall, sadly. Regarding Gin v.s. Histugaya, once again its no use contemplating who would or would not win, or who was serious or not. What we need is a REMATCH. *Grins* I can only hope. lol.

cherry blossoms
09-13-2006, 12:44 PM
Utikate isnt weak, he just dosnt have a strong body because of his illness. However it dosnt mean he isnt a powerful fighter, he held his own against Yammji. I think the weakest is Mayuri because he runs from battles and behaves in an uncaptin like way. Like when it was revealed Aizen was alive and a traitor, he said it wasnt his problem and did nothing. His Bankai is pretty lame aswell, it only takes someone skilled at shunpo to evade it.

Thelindra
09-13-2006, 02:04 PM
yea everyone supports Ukitake~! hes not weak at all. Hes strong at heart too~ look at how he cares for his members ^^ his zanpakouto is great too.

Jinnai
09-14-2006, 10:16 AM
I'd have to say Mayuri. The fact he just became a captain and didn't do so by defeating the current one like Kenpachi would mean he have less battle overall skills than any of the current captains.

Tosen would be second since he got his ass royally handed to him. Even Hitsugaya vs. Gin wasn't that mismatched.

Hitsugaya would be third. Shear raw power he could probably take on almost anyone and he has decent amount of experience, the fact he made captain should say that much. However, he isn't as battle-hardened as the others. Hitsugaya vs. Gin had Gin clearly with an advantage, but it wasn't overwhelming. At first Gin was toying with him, but by the end he was starting to take him more seriously, after Hitsu had managed to show him up for fooling around.

izzuru
09-14-2006, 10:29 AM
i think tousen is d weakest...

choking
09-14-2006, 12:14 PM
i thnk unohanas the weakest coz i think she doesnt fight much

Habanero
09-14-2006, 12:21 PM
I'd have to say Mayuri. The fact he just became a captain and didn't do so by defeating the current one like Kenpachi would mean he have less battle overall skills than any of the current captains.

Euhm... I just have to say that Kenpachi is the only one that we know of, that has killed the previous captain to take his place. Mayuri has probably been captain from pretty much the moment Urahara was exiled, about 100 years.

Thelindra
09-14-2006, 12:46 PM
i thnk unohanas the weakest coz i think she doesnt fight much
Unohana packs a bunch inside her peaceful warm smile. In fact most ppl are afraid of her. As what she says..."yur lives are in our hands" keke~
and i believe someone who can heal very well can do the reverse too...

cherry blossoms
09-14-2006, 12:46 PM
i thnk unohanas the weakest coz i think she doesnt fight much
Well if we was to go by that then, Yamoto could probably be one of the other weaker captains because he dosnt fight much. Which obviously isnt possible, besides people from the 11th division which is called the strongest are extremly scared of her. That must say something atleast, just because she hasnt shown her strength dosnt mean she is weak.

lilmajin
09-14-2006, 01:04 PM
Stop saying Unohana is the weakest! She's the oldest captain next to Yamamoto. SHE WILL WHUP j00!!!

Temiko
09-14-2006, 01:20 PM
Komamura. Because his zanpaktou techniques are pretty much "me squish bugs" style. There's nothing to them and he doesn't seem that strong.

I think against him Hitsugaya, Mayuri and Unohana would win just because of abilities they'd be able to use.

Hitsugaya could freeze him up, Mayuri can poison him, Unohana I expect to have some sort of sleepy sleep technique so she'd just knock him out...

As to Hitsugaya being the weakest, I disagree. In the anime Kira describes Hyourinmaru during the Hitsugaya vs Ichimaru fight, saying that Hyourinmaru works off overflowing reiatsu. Also, Hitsugaya is very level headed, I see him being good at tactics regardless of his inexperience compared to some of the other captains. In addition to that, Hyourinmaru's abilities give him the time to make up for some of that inexperience.

Guy
09-15-2006, 06:48 AM
Yeah, for me, it's a toss-up between Komamura and Tousen (I think stupidity counts too, in this case, for Tousen)

2cityTAK
09-15-2006, 03:47 PM
Komamura without a doubt is the weakest captain.

Guy
09-16-2006, 12:34 AM
Yeah, even Zaraki thinks so.

grimmy
01-01-2009, 03:03 AM
i belive unohana is strong. she just haven't show up her powers...
well, hitsugaya is my anwser...

thirsty
01-02-2009, 12:56 PM
funny how as the years went by people took mayuri off their list lol. i think the weakest captain is Aizen, he hasn't done anything yet, his shikai can't even hurt you and he can't even escape from yama's fire, he's pitiful.....

Rainl
01-02-2009, 11:04 PM
I don't know if your being sarcastic or not, but I'll respond anyways.

No one could possibly consider Aizen to be anything below high-tier. Since he was able to destroy two captain class opponents(Komamura and Hitsugaya, excluding Ichigo when seeing the condition he was in), each within a matter of seconds.

Not to mention being able to make the 6th espada submit with pure reiatsu, which no other captain could necessarily do, besides perhaps Yama-ji.

He's pretty much, at the pinnacle of the list alongside Yama-ji. Also, we don't necessarily know if he's being captured through his own will, or if he can't break out.

We can't possibly know either way, but that doesn't make him weak at all.

moonflow
01-02-2009, 11:55 PM
Wow at 3 year old thread.
That was one uber bump.

Anyway i'd have to say the 3 weakest captains are Aizen, Tousen and Gin.
They all defected and turned evil, if that isnt weak what is ;p
Yea they might be strong on the outside but they have weak hearts and sad souls.

Manchester Black
01-03-2009, 05:50 PM
Wow at 3 year old thread.
That was one uber bump.

Epic bump is more like it.

The weakest captain is Komamura. He's just horrible to watch.