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Hotaru
09-12-2006, 07:28 AM
Well seeing that we now have our own little sub forum.. i thought we can start our own threads... so... yea... Naruto's "new" jutsu... discuss!

Cloud
09-12-2006, 07:36 AM
Basically my opinion of his new Jutsu comes down to this

FREAKIN AWESOME!

I cant wait for him to actually master this technique. It's gonna be so cool when he go up to Sasuke and just completely bewilders him with the new technique. My only concern is that I dont know how long it will take him to master it altho he will probably master it while fighting against Sasuke just like with the Rasengan with Kabuto

SHiKaMaRi
09-12-2006, 07:51 AM
His Jutsu will probably be something to do with Rasengan *obviously..*
Maybe he can develop it to something like Sasuke's Chidori Nageshi or something *shrug* =] Can't wait to know, though

Dexter
09-12-2006, 08:17 AM
i think i said this on the other thread, but i reckon his new jutsu will be pwoerful...but prob not a "god-move" lol, where he can take out every1.
I think its prob gonna be strong enough to take out Orochimaru once he develops it but not enough for like the strongest member of Akatsuki...
he is after all..only 15...
unless he goes all out with the damn kyuubi then there's no stopping the dude...

hajinmon
09-12-2006, 08:27 AM
It reminds me of that technique the Sand Jounin used on Hayate during the chuunin exams, and that reminds me of Orphen with that little glowing blade of energy being held between two fingers. I wonder if he's going to create his own technique after completing the Rasengan.

greenwave_boi
09-12-2006, 03:35 PM
it'll be interesting to see but i think sasuke gonna put boot to *** when they fight again if naruto doesnt use kyuubi.....whenever that will be

Katen Kyoukotsu
09-12-2006, 07:57 PM
This technique is completely and utterly stupid. While Sasuke has been taking 2 years to hone his skills, learn new techniques and gather as much power as he can Naruto has been off in the woods screwing around with Jiraiya. You think one freaking good technique can make up for his total lack of speed and basic techniques. The fact is all he has is shadow clones, summoning, sexy/harem, and the rasengan, and simply upgrading the Rasengan will not suddenly make him able to beat Sasuke. Its already bad enough that he didnt do ANYTHING for 2 years but now after mastering how to manipulate wind chakra hes going to waste all of his time training one super techniqque instead of using it in new and various ways!?!?!? Not only am I disgusted but I am appaled also, good day sirs, good day!

Rabid_Wolverine
09-12-2006, 08:20 PM
I agree wth Katen to a certian extent. I ****ing hate the fact that' all his moves are always 1 hit KO. Can't it be like Lee where the fight is pwnage and lasts a while? Naruto's complete lack of basic skills and just general moves piss me off.

hajinmon
09-12-2006, 09:30 PM
It might be able to increase his speed and strength because they said wind is best for people who just rush in and fight with brute strength. (not sure if what I said is right. If I said something wrong, just ignore it; I just woke up.)

Cloudarc
09-12-2006, 09:52 PM
Yeah i agree with hajinmon there is a possibility that he will increase his strength and speed cause of his training and wind attribute would help with that but im sure it would be a technique that will be very destructive like but not god like like Arrn-Car said but i am definetly looking forward to that techinque :)

Zabuza Momochi
09-12-2006, 11:20 PM
naruto new juso is call naruto vrage

Insight
09-13-2006, 12:00 AM
i just hope that this technique dosn't dissapoint. i've got so worked up by it that if it is rubbish i may cry!... and give up naruto!!... and then cry again!!!
the technique seems like a good idea but wether it will work in practice or just be a new shiney toy with no real feeling to it.
my ideal idea for the new technique is that it summoned a wind element creature. using the ulitmate chara form rasengan with elemental chakara to create a new type of creature made of wind energy given form as it would be fast and powerful which is what we want naruto to have. although it is impractical still i can dream.

syn
09-15-2006, 11:32 AM
@Katen Kyoukotsu

I disagree. Basic combat training and the ability to control his Nine Tails chakra was the purpose of Jirayias training. And his growth is obvious...even Kakashi says so at the start of Part 2. Actualy...he seems pretty stunned. So yea...Jiraya gave him the basics and abilty to control his chakra better.
On the other hand...Naruto is to impatient and hotheaded...thats the reason he gets angry so easily, thus releasing the 4th tail.

A few more things about Sasuke-Naruto power ratio.

1) Sasuke has ****ing sharingan. He learns much quicker then Naruto and his bloodline enables him to see and copy some amazing tehnicques. Thanks to Kakashis training methods he is now able to learn much quicker...just like Sasuke. But if it hasn't been for the chakra and basics training from Jiraya..I doubt that he would be able to do what he is doing now. Also...Naruto is dumber:))
2) When Sasuke went to Orochimaru...he already had the basics. The rest is all upgrade.
3) We DON'T know what else Jiraya has been teaching him. Remember...in short time he thought him the summoning technique and the Rasengan. I doubt that he didn't teach him anything in 2 and half years.
4) Naruto was still recovering from his 4 tail transformation...he was bearly able to stand, let alone fight with Sasuke. The author emphasized Sasukes grothw...true. But we don't know what Naruto is capable of...since there hasn't been a real fight yet.

And the most important thing....to combine charka recomposition and natural element is unheard of. If he suceeds he will be able to perform other amazings techniques, not just the improved rasengan. Since NO ONE ELSE is able to do this. Not even the Yondaime Hokage that was praised to be the greatest shinobi that ever lived wasn't able to complete this.
Kakashi said so anyways. That if he complets this traning he will maybe be strong as Kakashi. But if he combines the 2 chakra aspects...he could one day surpass even the Yondaime.

MasterX25
09-16-2006, 08:56 AM
Naruto new technique would involve cutting object that it hits. Example, the purpose of training his techniques involves around cutting leaves or waterfall, thus that when wind nature is combined with Rasengan, what ever the Rasengan hits, it would cut the thing into shreds.

Insight
09-16-2006, 10:54 PM
but the rasengan is already relly poweful anyway and the odama rasengan even more, so why does he need a new technique to hit people and kill them with when he can already do it.
there is no point having another technique that just kills people when he gets up close if he isn't isn't fast enough to or can't touch his opponent eg sasuke.

Katen Kyoukotsu
09-16-2006, 11:24 PM
@Katen Kyoukotsu

I disagree. Basic combat training and the ability to control his Nine Tails chakra was the purpose of Jirayias training. And his growth is obvious...even Kakashi says so at the start of Part 2. Actualy...he seems pretty stunned. So yea...Jiraya gave him the basics and abilty to control his chakra better.
On the other hand...Naruto is to impatient and hotheaded...thats the reason he gets angry so easily, thus releasing the 4th tail.

A few more things about Sasuke-Naruto power ratio.

1) Sasuke has ****ing sharingan. He learns much quicker then Naruto and his bloodline enables him to see and copy some amazing tehnicques. Thanks to Kakashis training methods he is now able to learn much quicker...just like Sasuke. But if it hasn't been for the chakra and basics training from Jiraya..I doubt that he would be able to do what he is doing now. Also...Naruto is dumber:))
2) When Sasuke went to Orochimaru...he already had the basics. The rest is all upgrade.
3) We DON'T know what else Jiraya has been teaching him. Remember...in short time he thought him the summoning technique and the Rasengan. I doubt that he didn't teach him anything in 2 and half years.
4) Naruto was still recovering from his 4 tail transformation...he was bearly able to stand, let alone fight with Sasuke. The author emphasized Sasukes grothw...true. But we don't know what Naruto is capable of...since there hasn't been a real fight yet.

And the most important thing....to combine charka recomposition and natural element is unheard of. If he suceeds he will be able to perform other amazings techniques, not just the improved rasengan. Since NO ONE ELSE is able to do this. Not even the Yondaime Hokage that was praised to be the greatest shinobi that ever lived wasn't able to complete this.
Kakashi said so anyways. That if he complets this traning he will maybe be strong as Kakashi. But if he combines the 2 chakra aspects...he could one day surpass even the Yondaime.

Okay let me make this clear. Naruto had just as much control over the fox's chakra back when he faced sasuke at the waterfall. If anything its gottan worse. At the waterfall he brang out 1 tail mantained it and fought a great fight. Recently whenever he brings out a tail they start multiplying and he goes crazy. Also in terms of controlling the foxes chakra the goal should be to use the chakra to its fullest without bringing out tails. Not simply using the tails cheaply and eventually screwed your body over for it.

Also the only real improvment Naruto has made is his chakra stamina and control. As you get older your stamina increses naturally so that had nothing to do with training. However im sure the control came partly from Jiraiya. As for Naruto upgrading his basic fighting abilities thats complete bullshit, he may have gotton a tiny bit faster but hes still running around throwing random punches.

1) As for this Sasuke may have Sharingan but Narutio has the nine tails. This gfives him a huge amount of chakra on top of his to work with. If this was utilized in the right way Naruto would have easily been able to keep up with Sasuke. As for Naruto not being as smart as Sasuke thats also complete bullshit. Naruto's only promblem in that area is that he doesnt use the smarts that he has often enough. To prove this ill remind you of the NejiXNaruto fight and the Team7/KabutoXthreegenjutsunins in the 2cd exam. These fights clearly show Narutos intelligence especially in combat situations.

2) Um excuse me but when Sasuke and Naruto fought on the roof they were even. They both already had the basics. Naruto just wasnt as solid in them as Sasuke was. He didnt need training in them, he needed new technique training that forced him to use the basics thereby reinforcing them and learning new techniques at the same time.

3) This is the one area where I agree with you, all Ive said could be proved wrong by him merely showing some new techniques and skills he aquired during the 2 and 1/2 years. So far though he has failed to do that.

4) Sasuke even got the best of Yamato who is a ANBU elite. Although with time I think it would have developed into a good battle I doubt Naruto could do anything like that without the help of releasing tails. And then of course hed once again be relying on the ninetails instead of fighting on his own.

Okay to the "important part". Combineing the part IS NOT unheard of. Its just unheard of on the level that Naruto is trying to pull it off on. The chidori is an exaple of it on a lower level. While I do agree that if Naruto does succed it would open doors for other techniques the fact is that door is already open with him learing to control wind chakra. And with it the only thing hes focused on is a new Rasengan instead of new unique techniques. So I find myself wondering if he would think of new techniques after he made a new Rasengan. Finally last but not least no matter how good the wind rasengan is it is only one technique and no matter how powerful one technique cannot support a ninja forever. Even the fourth who was reknowned for his golden flash technique was also known as a master of many other tecniques. Even with a Super S rank tech. It is impossible to survive for long without many supporting jutsus.

syn
09-17-2006, 10:56 AM
As for Naruto upgrading his basic fighting abilities thats complete bullshit, he may have gotton a tiny bit faster but hes still running around throwing random punches.

Look at the way he fought when they were getting the bells again. That's improvment for sure. But perhaps not enough, ye.

Okay let me make this clear. Naruto had just as much control over the fox's chakra back when he faced sasuke at the waterfall. If anything its gottan worse.

It's gotten worse cuz the Yondaimes seal is getting weaker...Jiraiya stated that. Maybe the reason is that Naruto is depending on the Kyuubi chakra 2 much.

1) As for this Sasuke may have Sharingan but Narutio has the nine tails. This gfives him a huge amount of chakra on top of his to work with. If this was utilized in the right way Naruto would have easily been able to keep up with Sasuke.

True...Naruto has the greater chakra pool...but...in terms of learning, Sasuke learns MUCH MUCH faster cuz his abilty to just simply copy the technique. Sharingan also gives him the insight in the jutsu in the moment it's performed.
Yes....naruto has more raw power and stamina....but cannot learn as quickly. Bloodline>>chakra pool.

As for Naruto not being as smart as Sasuke thats also complete bullshit

Actualy....when in battle, Naruto is sometimes smarter then Sasuke. But, that's not the case when it comes to learning jutsus for example.
This new training is a perfect example. Kakashi said to him that if it werent for his clones, it would take years for him to learn to control his chakra type...wind.

But then he states it only took Sasuke a few days when they were training chidori. And during his 2,5 years of training with Jirayia he didn't have clones.
Maybe I just like Ero-Sennin to much...but it's impossible for me to believe that he didn't learn anything with one of the legendary sannin in the period of 2,5 years. Especially since that same Sannin thought him the summoning and rasengan in a few weeks.

On rest of the things...I'll just agree that I disagree with you:).

Katen Kyoukotsu
09-17-2006, 07:02 PM
Yeah at least we agree on one thing, I also find it majorly disappointing and weird that he didnt seem to learn anything from Jiraiya and daily hope that he proves that wrong

Kootje
09-17-2006, 09:21 PM
His jutsu will be good but not enough for oro or strong akatsuki probably just to get on equal grounds with Sasuke

syn
09-17-2006, 09:59 PM
Well...you can't be on equal grounds with Akatsuki or Orochimaru with only ONE powerfull jutsu.
That's what sux about Naruto. A huge chakra pool and a very limited number of jutsus.

Hopefully, now that he can control wind...we will see more.

AznPoi
09-17-2006, 11:56 PM
You forget he's training with Kage Buushin(shadow clones) which he makes about thousands of them. So one day of training for Naruto comes down to about 3 years if he makes roughly 1000 shadow shadow clone. He's been training like this for several days now maybe even weeks and so he must advanced about 10 years in training.

Therefore, I wouldn't see Naruto surpassing Sasuke very surprising.

Insight
09-18-2006, 10:58 PM
i think it would be best if naruto accidently made diffenert attacks by using his clones. they are all trying to put wind chakara into the rasengan but due to different methods of doing it -we've already seen that different copies do things differently and better from the leaf cutting- they make different techniques by using different amouts of wind chakara and infusing it in different ways.
i know this is unlikely but i'm just so desperate for naruto to learn more then just one technique that i don't care how he does it.

Kriceš
09-18-2006, 11:24 PM
after lookin at some of the mangas..found out tat..he got a wind jutsu.
anyone knows wads the jutsu?

Insight
09-18-2006, 11:32 PM
no he learnt how to use wind elemental chakara but hasn't learn't an actual technique with it that we know of.
he is instead trying to put the wind chakara in the rasengan to make some kind of "ulitmate" technique which will somehow make up for all his other short coming's

Kriceš
09-18-2006, 11:51 PM
ohhh! i c .. now i knoe . hahs.

EsDawg
09-20-2006, 04:36 AM
no he learnt how to use wind elemental chakara but hasn't learn't an actual technique with it that we know of.
he is instead trying to put the wind chakara in the rasengan to make some kind of "ulitmate" technique which will somehow make up for all his other short coming's
Hopefully he actually applies the Chakra nature training to his battles. The fact that you can make your attacks deadlier is a huge advantage.

CurlyQ1989
09-24-2006, 02:01 AM
I think Naruto's new jutsu will somehow be related to his Rasengan... only with an added wind element... who knows?!

LegendaryXM90
09-26-2006, 07:25 PM
I think Naruto's new jutsu will somehow be related to his Rasengan... only with an added wind element... who knows?!

Yeah, that's what I think, too. Obviously based on what Kakashi said, he's gonna be adding wind chakra (I thought the rasengan was ALREADY wind chakra) to the rasengan...hmm...maybe naruto will tap into the kyuubi's power too...lol...here's a little bit of a diagram I made...30 mins of my life gone... :sad

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/Shadowfiend/rasengan.jpg

Insight
09-26-2006, 11:11 PM
nice that diagram is awesome and it show's exactly what my worst nightmare is for the new technique will be.
here's how they came up with it.
writer 1: ok every1 we need to come up with something really cool and different for naruto's new jutsu. any idea?
writer 2: did any1 else eat those bbq ribs lst night at the office party after our new pay rise.
writer 3; yeah i did and now i've got the shit's real bad.
writer 1: look we don't have time for this we have work to do.....okay do all of you need the crap.
writer's: YES!
writer 1: fine we'll just make a bigger rasengan and add a new colour to it, ok..... good now i'm off on a holiday for 2 weeks.

i got that from an offical souce and it is completely true.

Kriceš
09-27-2006, 09:21 AM
maybe its named Wind Rasengan ? who knows !

Dexter
09-27-2006, 10:58 AM
nice that diagram is awesome and it show's exactly what my worst nightmare is for the new technique will be.
here's how they came up with it.
writer 1: ok every1 we need to come up with something really cool and different for naruto's new jutsu. any idea?
writer 2: did any1 else eat those bbq ribs lst night at the office party after our new pay rise.
writer 3; yeah i did and now i've got the shit's real bad.
writer 1: look we don't have time for this we have work to do.....okay do all of you need the crap.
writer's: YES!
writer 1: fine we'll just make a bigger rasengan and add a new colour to it, ok..... good now i'm off on a holiday for 2 weeks.
i got that from an offical souce and it is completely true.

HAHAHAHA....yeah, that's wat i hope doesn't ahppen too...just bigger and and brighter...
i was afraid that's wat they'd do to Ichigo's bankai - since his shikai was like huge compared to every1's. i was hoping it'd be small and something cool...and it was !!! hehe....
*prays*

hatah
09-27-2006, 05:21 PM
This technique is completely and utterly stupid. While Sasuke has been taking 2 years to hone his skills, learn new techniques and gather as much power as he can Naruto has been off in the woods screwing around with Jiraiya. You think one freaking good technique can make up for his total lack of speed and basic techniques. The fact is all he has is shadow clones, summoning, sexy/harem, and the rasengan, and simply upgrading the Rasengan will not suddenly make him able to beat Sasuke. Its already bad enough that he didnt do ANYTHING for 2 years but now after mastering how to manipulate wind chakra hes going to waste all of his time training one super techniqque instead of using it in new and various ways!?!?!? Not only am I disgusted but I am appaled also, good day sirs, good day!

I maybe a lil late on this but I still want to reply. True Sasuke has been doing alot of training with Oro, BUT we still don't know the full extent of Naruto's training. We really don't anything of the 2 years he was with Jiraiya except that Naurto almost killed him the 6 tails tranformation And that comes from either him overtraining or getting to emotionally into his training. I believe in the actual fight with Sasuke we will see a new Naruto and different things other the same ole techniques.

But I got away from what I wanted to say. :) I hope he gets or starts using techniques like Asuma.

Insight
09-27-2006, 10:51 PM
yeah but the fact that we haven't seen anything of what naruto has learnt is crap in itself. there have been about 100 manga chapters in the new arc and we still haven't seen him fight properly which is double crap.
also from what he is doing at the moment he still can'rt even do rasengan 1 handed and needs a clone to help him so he can't have improved that much.
also naruto almost killed jiraiya when he released 4 tail we don't know what would happen when he released 6.

*Hollow*Ichigo
09-27-2006, 11:21 PM
just dropping by but ive only watched a few of the naruto eppys and i say its better in jap andhis new jutsu's are alwasy twice as stronger...except when he fools around

SHiKaMaRi
09-28-2006, 12:07 AM
Naruto should make his own Jutsu, go against Sasuke, gets beaten up- but not killed by Sasuke, then come back to Konoha, and develop his 'new jutsu' furthermore... And I think that'll happen, since he's not going to give up saving Sasuke, so..

Insight
09-28-2006, 10:40 PM
yeah but then it just gets repetitive as naruto will become like a tennis ball training to be stronger losing and going back to train in order to return and....... lose again etc.
also there is the time factor he can't afford to lose as orochimaru will take over his body soon. also the akatsuki probalem is growing as they are becoming more bold he dosn't have time to spend ages training since he already wasted his 2 years with jiraiya.

Halbard
09-29-2006, 03:16 AM
Looking back on the Naruto II arch, Naruto does show promise, it might be just something little, but he was the one that thought up how to get the bells from Kakashi when he first returned, that might seem small but it shows an extreme amount of growth on his part, being able to make a call like that mid battle. Also the 2 and a half years with Jariya is nothing to forget about. But as for the new jutsu, I see it something like this: a spinning ball of razor blades, think about it, the nature of wind chakra is like a knife, a cutting tool for close combat that we've seen Akuma use, heck he made a lightsaber out of it, taking that and turing it into a sphereical buzz saw? Kabuto mearly got hit with a spinning orb, a blunt hit, and he could bearly get up, a rasengan with blades? Thats gonna just slice through people :)

Sinner Ichigo
09-29-2006, 07:10 PM
I think it would be a rasengan that he throws and explodes and cuts everythin in sight with wind chakra.

LegendaryXM90
09-29-2006, 07:18 PM
I think it would be a rasengan that he throws and explodes and cuts everythin in sight with wind chakra.

See my diagram... :Haha

VipER
10-16-2006, 02:20 PM
i think his new jutsu would give him a chance to get in distance fight...with his old jutsu which rasengan only works for close combat n plus it takes too much time to produce...so this new jutsu would be so powerful by combining the two jutsu together...since hes lack of fighting skill, he may use the wind jutsu for his defense n also for weapon...

Jinchuu
10-16-2006, 03:55 PM
I believe just developing a jutsu will not help his overall skills, I mean, this isn't Bleach we are talking about with all Ban Kai, 10 times power etc.
In my opinion, he'll still be the same stupid Naruto with a new jutsu which he will probably use against an Akatsuki member before he utilizes it on Sasuke, because if he uses agaisnt Sasuke, hey, it's over.

VipER
10-16-2006, 04:36 PM
Lolz... We'll see bout that...neone could be right n neone could be wrong...:rolleye09

Shinraco
10-20-2006, 12:15 PM
you guys arnt thinking out of the box! seeing that Asuma has died now an his little lesson about the wind chakra an infusing it to weaponry making a sharper blade, i say that naruto will start using some kind of weapon which is great! the naruto series was lacking weapons; kunia shuriken were great but lets see some really awesome weapons! a katana is to cliche *cough*sasuke*cough* sure a fan seems logical but tenmari has that . . . ill leave it up to the writer(i have faith in there creativity) but naruto new jutsu be it gen(preferably) or nin will be hands down freaking awesome!!11

xyouxarexuglyx2
10-21-2006, 07:24 AM
I know this is OT, but if I was Naruto and became able to control my wind chakra well, I'd spit and focus wind chakra on the spit and bust a huge ass hole in the ground.

Shinraco
10-21-2006, 07:47 AM
thats just gross. . . spitting geez how lame.

VipER
10-21-2006, 09:31 AM
lolz...Spitting geezz..?

RahxephoN
10-21-2006, 09:58 AM
well it might be some kind of advanced technique like rasengan or as i suspect be connected w rasengan but i think it will be awesome anyway:D

Insight
10-22-2006, 03:26 PM
i do think that it will be a fast and ranged attack to add balence to naruto's fighting style. i think though that naruto will be able to incorporate it into his fighting style instead of pausine to make a rasenagn as he seems better at combination's now so hopefully it will add more fluidity to his fights.

xx_zangetsu_xx
10-25-2006, 02:18 PM
I think narutos growth has been really good. I mean he was able to find kakashi's weakness and he still has that unknown technique that jiriaya taught him.

Insight
10-25-2006, 05:27 PM
naruto probably is really good but why have we not seen him do anything in 100 manga's before he has had to learn something new. he hasn't had a major fight yet and it's a bit annoying

and yes naruto still has an unknown thecnique that is probably really powerful but why haven't we seen it before he had to learn something else.

OutLawBankai
11-12-2006, 05:16 PM
when i get thinking about it maybe its one of those thecnique what use's all he has so hes saving it 4 the right time

or his playing a bluff lol

blah
11-14-2006, 02:52 PM
It would have made more sense if Naruto's element was fire. I associate his kyubii with fire all the time, besides he is in the fire country.

Mercurius
11-14-2006, 03:41 PM
However if U look at his Rasengan U would associate it more to wind, plus the Kyuubi creates tsunami's with swinning it's tails...and things alike

Aina1
01-06-2008, 08:46 PM
isn't it called Rasengan or somethin?

captainmawaluigi
02-02-2008, 02:16 AM
Why would Naruto have a fire based attack, when thats what Sasuke already uses? It would be sweet though, if Naruto made 400 clones, and they all practiced using the other elemental jutsus. Then, since its not his type, they took longer to merger it with rasengan, then, depending upon who he is fighting, he could use that type of rasengan at any given moment. OR, he could call forth 8 clones, and combine all the chakra elements together into a rasengan attack for ultimate death!

teslatroNN
02-08-2008, 07:28 AM
isn't it called Rasengan or somethin?
Good job bumping a 1+ year old topic.