Bleach Episode 2 Dub Discussion Thread

[Kanadian Kyuubi]

Last week, Viz and Studiopolis brought us a great debut to a great dub, now how will Episode 2 play out?

Pay or Play, or in Japan titled "A Shinigami's Work!"

Don't forget, If you watch the japanese version, try to keep it to a strict [eng]episode-[jap]episode comparison and avoid "bashing" at all costs. Remember, the majority of this section will contain "noobs" lets not scare them shall we...of course! :Domo

Friday at 10:30 pm - YTV
Saturday at 12:30 pm - Adult Swim

Well, enjoy!

p.s. Stare at this (www.leekspin.com) for a few hours while you wait Kanadian viewers *rimshot*

Torrents:
http://datorrents.com/download.asp?id=14249&name=Bleach02-UF-HQ.avi.torrent
http://www.cartoon-world.org:6969/torrents/cee657aed490e1f52e13dbbf8adf6f10805a7025.torrent

[Kagebu]

Some of the episode is up on youtube, so I was able to check it out. I have to say, I honestly liked the dubbing in the first episode better. This time around, Bosch sounded more natural as Ichigo, but there was a slew of characters that seemed incredibly off.

For starters, Wendee Lee's Tatsuki sounds exactly like her Yahiko voice from Kenshin. I thought that was a bad move. I'm really surprised that Stephanie Sheh didn't go very high pitched for Orihime, and she doesn't have enough energy in her voice either. Mizuiro sounded just like Keigo, and Chad wasn't nearly deep enough. Oh yeah, and Grand Fisher sounds too deep and demonic, like a cliche monster right out of the Inuyasha dub.

Yuri Lowenthal was the best part of the episode. He nailed Keigo, as expected.

I guess it sounds like I'm doing more complaining, but in this episode, I think the bad outweighed the good. Ichigo, Rukia, and Keigo were awesome. Everyone else was stale.

[Darksong17]

Could you maybe post a link to the youtube upload? I can't find it =(

[Kagebu]

Sure, but only the links to the first two parts were given. The third part's link was the same as the first part, and I'm not a member of the forums I got these links from so I didn't bring it to their attention.

Part 1 = www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ksIV1FEGGA
Part 2 = www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQOo9JFY84A

I take back what I said about Chad's voice, though. It's actually pretty decent, but could be a couple notches lower. It'll work, though it would be perfect if it were deeper.

[Darksong17]

Thanks much!

[SHiKaMaRi]

Just watched it.. I guess it's alright. Still not used to how they pronounce each others name, though >.< Mizuiro- Keigo's friend- voice is a little off, but since he isn't one of the main character, I guess I can live with it.

[Bak3d on H1gh]

For this one id have to say id prefer the jab sub mostly because, i liked rukia voice in the scene were she first appears in the school, in the dub they don't really do anything to her voice to make her sound like she's trying to sound innoucent till after that scene, and then its only for a second. Tatsuki voice was fine to me and right now she ain't and still isn't a big character, orihime yeah coulda used more "umph" or energy, but its perfectly fine to me, coulda made her sound more funny in some areas though.

[DragonBlade]

http://datorrents.com/download.asp?id=14249&name=Bleach02-UF-HQ.avi.torrent

[Capthxc]

lol chad sounds like a creepy old man

[Icchy <3]

Oooh, This was quite a good episode!
Chads voice isn't deep enough though and I think they should have used "Inoue"...

Rukia's voice has improved in my opinon, so thats a good thing.
The Grand Fishers voice is crap, :p

8/10

[Kanadian Kyuubi]

Pretty...average...Orihime's voice was pretty cute, and I finally got to see the origin of this little gem (www.leekspin.com)...

No big write-up this time, this week's episode was more of an Action/Comedy episode, the scene with "regular" Rukia was funny, and of course, what's better than seeing Orihime spin a leek around?!

8/10

[Sciky]

Where is part 3? And how good is Kan'onji?

EDIT: Found it, you accidently named part 3, part2. Kan'onji sounds very good, deeper than the original, for the preview he wasn't acting as insane as Kan'onji though, but when episode 10 comes I'm sure that'll change.

[lordneon]

just a word of warning there are no seeders on the torrent most people stuck at 90.5% :(

[Sciky]

Is Don Kan'onji Mike Pollock? He sounds similar to Eggman from Sonic X.

[DragonBlade]

just a word of warning there are no seeders on the torrent most people stuck at 90.5% :(

Seeder is back up Currently at 93.3%

[Kagebu]

Mike Pollock as Kanonji? Very doubtful. Pollock works in the New York area, and Bleach is a California dub. In all of his anime roles, he's never left the New York area to record elsewhere. It's possible though, since Don Kanonji is a really minor role, that he happened to have been in the area and auditioned for a small role in Bleach. I wouldn't bank on it, though.

[Mazral]

Hmm..Ichigo's and Rukia's voices seemed better to me this episode. I can't really say what I think entirely of the episode itself because I was never a big fan of this "orihime-brother" arc to begin with. Orihime's voice is annoying..I don't think I'll ever like it. It just doesn't fit her, even if it's supposed to be slightly ditzy at times.

[Kagebu]

Strange, the reason I'm not too fond of Orihime's voice is because it's not ditzy enough. I'm really hoping as the anime goes, Stephanie Sheh realizes this and cranks up the pitch of her voice, making it higher and more energetic.

Then again, my beef with her voice is likely the director's fault. He might want Orihime's voice to be this "low" and "boring" and Sheh can't do much about that.

[Mazral]

Strange, the reason I'm not too fond of Orihime's voice is because it's not ditzy enough

I don't want her voice to be ditzy I want it to be more sweet sounding I guess. Orihime's japanese voice is so perfect, it's sweet and ditzy when it needs to be. The va (not sure who it is) has good voice inflection. The english va doesn't do too much with her voice (so far at least). I agree with you that it needs to be a higher pitch, it's too..uhh..soft I guess the word would be?

When Orihime acts ditzy in the japanese anime its funny..like when she's talking about making dinner. But when they says it in English it just sounds bad XD

[Seilin]

I agree that on some parts where Inoue is suppose to be clumsy or "ditzy", she just sounds normal or just not as she's suppose to be >_< and sometimes when they pronounce her name, Orihime, I just thought it sounded a bit weird, but maybe it was just me.

Overall, I like all the voice and the dub is still getting along great. Orihime's voice matches her's but just need some working on it.

[Littlelegs]

I liked all the voices except Chad. Inoue's voice is pretty decent while her japanese one can get annoying at times but the dub voice can sound more innocent

8/10 on the Dub so far

[Mizusa]

I say meh to that episode. Ichigo's friends were awesome for voices(well as awesome as English dubs can get) And I also hated how they said "Orihime" it just sounded weird. I was like "SAY INOUE!" I didnt get a good listen to Chad since he only had like 2 lines, and I was on the phone with my friend at the time. Inoue.. shes on the verge of being super annoying, and exactly perfect XD Rukia's kinda bugging me now. Shes gone into girly mode! :O Like I know shes supposed to be all "innocent" and stuff when shes at school with Ichigo, but it didnt work. Hopefully she'll get better. I wanted Inoue's friend to swtch and be Rukia cause she had a much lower voice XD I think my fave line was when Rukia and Ichigo found Inoue when she got "hit" by the car. Rukia was all like, "whos that?" And Ichigo's like "Rukia! She's in our class! Get your face outta your ass!" XD Loooolll I freaked my friend out when I laughed super hard at that XD But otherwise, its pretty good so far ^_^ 8/10

[Vince Flyte]

Orihime's dub voice didn't right with me but I thought Chad was decent from what little he said.

[Gettles]

I say meh to that episode. Ichigo's friends were awesome for voices(well as awesome as English dubs can get) And I also hated how they said "Orihime" it just sounded weird. I was like "SAY INOUE!" I didnt get a good listen to Chad since he only had like 2 lines, and I was on the phone with my friend at the time. Inoue.. shes on the verge of being super annoying, and exactly perfect XD Rukia's kinda bugging me now. Shes gone into girly mode! :O Like I know shes supposed to be all "innocent" and stuff when shes at school with Ichigo, but it didnt work. Hopefully she'll get better. I wanted Inoue's friend to swtch and be Rukia cause she had a much lower voice XD I think my fave line was when Rukia and Ichigo found Inoue when she got "hit" by the car. Rukia was all like, "whos that?" And Ichigo's like "Rukia! She's in our class! Get your face outta your ass!" XD Loooolll I freaked my friend out when I laughed super hard at that XD But otherwise, its pretty good so far ^_^ 8/10

The reasion that they were calling her "Orihime" as opposed to "Inoue" is that the localization team felt it seemed wierd for everyone to be refering to one another by family names as in English speaking areas you just call people by their first names. (Similer to how they are calling Ichigo "Ichigo Kurosaki" as opposed to the Japanese order of "Kurosaki Ichigo") it just makes it translate a little smoother.

[Apocalypse]

Not bad, not bad at all. Out of all the more-recent popular Shonen anime to get dubbed, this one definitely seems to be the best of the bunch. Of course, that doesn't mean I am not COMPLETELY without some complaints. I agree that Inoue needs a bit more energy in her voice. She has the whole "innocence" thing, but she lacks the clumsy/ditzy energy that really makes Inoue who she is. With time I think the Dub VA can catch on to that. Remember, this is only the second episode. Even if it isn't really addressed, she is "bearable" as she currently is. Could be better though. ;)

Chad seems fine to me. I was a little afraid of how he'd sound... and I am pretty much pleased. It isn't QUITE as deep, but it reminds me of the Japanese VA... but... in English. Not too bad, in my opinion.

Ichigo seems ok. I don't think we'll be having too many issues with his VA. Tatsuki sounded ok, I suppose. She sounds "tomboyish", so i think it works out. I think I hear a little similarity to a certain other character from a different anime though. Take a guess.

Ichigo's family seems pretty good; particularly his father. They fit their characters pretty well, in my opinion. The classmates seem... ok. I haven't heard much, but they don't seem like anything particularly special. I guess they fit them fairly well... perhaps. At the very least, they are bearable.

Lastly, Rukia still seems... a little wierd. SOMETIMES she sounds like she fits the character pretty well. Other times... not so much. I think her voice fits well in times when Rukia is particularly serious. Times when Rukia is being a little funny or even just acting normal... her voice occasionally sounds a bit out of character.

As a whole I continue to be impressed. I was a little put off with the way they pronounced some words and names... but I guess that was something we all needed to really be prepared for in a dub. It can't be avoided. I think this is one of the few dubs that is and will continue to be BEARABLE to watch. In fact, I think I might watch this in favor of fillers.

[Aleclom]

Yeah, pretty good, though I wish they would stop rolling their 'r's like the Japanese, and just say their 'r's like Americans. It just sounds weird and forced.

[Halbard]

Wasnt to bad, Keigo's voice I thought was real good, Tatsuki too, which I was worried about after hearing who it was gonna be. Inoue's wasnt to bad either, Chads...could have been better but 4 outta 5 aint bad. Inoue's brother wasnt that bad either. Gonna have to get use to them using Orihime though lol. Altogether they're doing a good job with, not nearly as bad as I thought it be, now I just gotta get comfortable and wait for Zaraki's lol hope they get someone like who dubbed Zabuza from Naruto, I liked his voice better dubbed that in the anime actually. Grand Fisher though sounded a little TOO evil, not as cocky as I think he sounds in japanese, but here he sounded just pure evil...

[Penryn]

Who does Chad's voice? It sounded a little familiar but it was so brief I didn't get much of a chance to listen, and I can't seem to find the name of the voice actor. Anyone know?

[Seilin]

Chad's voice actor is Crispin Freeman and I think he has been in the cartoon, Witch Hunter Robin, the character, Amon. I'm not sure if that is real though because I found that in a random site I googled, but if that is not, then I don't know >_<

[Exodus]

I think the only new character's voice that I liked was Tatsuki, her's were all right. Orihime needs some working on, and Chad's voice was pretty....interesting to me.

For Don Kanonji (during 3rd ep preview), he doesn't sound crazy enough for me, lol. Get what I am saying?

[Penryn]

Chad's voice actor is Crispin Freeman and I think he has been in the cartoon, Witch Hunter Robin, the character, Amon. I'm not sure if that is real though because I found that in a random site I googled, but if that is not, then I don't know >_<

That's who I thought it was, same dude that did Tsume's voice in Wolf's Rain. At any rate, whether it is or not, the brief preview sounded like a pretty good match for Chad to me.

[Deathscyth Hell]

OK, I thaughts on episode 2 dub are prety much the same as episode one. No realy major content edited, lines more or less in tact.

Voices could be worked on a bit, as they don't seem to be quite right pitch. But then, they are close enough. I don't realy like Don Koji's (SP?) voice though. Especialy with the "Bwuahahahaha!" bit. It's not as funny or as wild as in the origional.

[Kagebu]

Chad is not Crispin Freeman. The guy only does union jobs now because he is part of one and has a strict set of work ethics. He won't use a pseudonym to get into a non union dub, which is what Bleach is. Sad to say, we won't see him in Bleach at all. It stinks, I know, because I really wanted him as Urahara.

[Omega_Cell]

Just to start off, I don't get on too often, but I'm completely up to date on everything.

I like the dub. I think it will take a few more episodes for everyone to get warmed up to doing the voices, but it is off to an extremely good start. I just don't see how anyone can really complain on Chad's voice yet. He only got to say "Do you need help?" and that's it. Once he gets more involved we'll know how he talks. Orihime sounded right to me. She has the potential ditziness and the capacity for strength. Rukia grew on me, while Ichigo started to solidify. I think once the actors have time to get the feel of the characters then everything is going to turn out smoothly. There just aren't enough characters involved yet to get the big picture on how the series sounds as a whole.

[Zenpou Tenshin]

to tell u the truth i like the japanese voices much better............

[Deathscyth Hell]

to tell u the truth i like the japanese voices much better............

Fair enough. Could we agree, though, that the voices are good and suit the characters relativly well?

[Toasty]

I agree, Chad's voice is a little off for me, but nothing I'd cry about. (Chad isn't one of my favorite characters.) Rukia's voice seemed a little much in this episode. I liked it last episode, but for some reason, it didn't fit so well this time. But over, I enjoyed the episode.

I think they are doing a good job dubbing it.

[Sun Dao]

Chad's voice sounded kinda off, but thats okay x]

The one problem I do have with the ep is how they pronounce 'orihime', :( It just got annoying after awhile.. Bosch(sp?) is doing a good job as Ichigo, and definantly sounded better this time than last.. >.<

Orihime's VA sound great imho. I think it suited her well.

[HoorayTatsuki!]

to tell u the truth i like the japanese voices much better............

are you japanese?

and i think its that people like what they heard first

and sometimes prefer something in another language because its different

[Seilin]

Well, I'm sure he's mostly likely not japanese, but even if he is, there are fansubs, so people doesn't really need to speak or know japanese to watch the japanese anime.

And yes, I do agree people mostly like what they heard first.

[Slayer-33]

With time the voices should get better as the actors get to know each other & the characters better.




That said they have done a great job so far.

[Xazz]

I thought the voices were pretty well done. I like how Rukia sounds more in the second episode, definitely different from the first ep. I was a little disappointed how they cut out some fun scenes in the anime that are in the manga, but ohwell.
Waiting to see how Renji, Urahara and Byakuya's voices sound...

[Rorschach]

damn i need to watch that episode again, but from i watched, so far so good just need to get adjusted. didn't really like how they pronounced orihime, too heavy on the "o" (damn Texas A&M V. Army game, so close to the upset yet so far)

[gigguk]

are you japanese?
and i think its that people like what they heard first
and sometimes prefer something in another language because its different
I actually know a guy whois japanses and he prefers watching Englsih dub rather than japanese dubs. He says its because japanese voice actors overact all the time and real japanese people sound nothing like that, which really annoys him. So I think that its also true that sometimes people prefer their non-native language because its different.

[Gigusei]

I love the litte pattern on Ichigo's bed, I didn't realize it till I started watching the dub, it reminds me of a t-shirt.

[Cloudarc]

yeah i like ichigo's dub voice its a pretty nice choice i agree that inoue's voice isnt high enough that definetly could have help and also yeah they also really should call her inoue instread of orihime in the dub more i think it would sound better

[orochimaru7810]

i thought this was ok but i really really dont like chads VA sry people but i just dont like it and i dont think it will ever grow on me

[Damascus]

I liked Chad's voice, but Orihime's was just a bit too low for me. Rukia's is still having trouble sticking on me, but Ichigo's is damn near perfect.

And I'm seriously pissed off at Don Kan'onji's voice.... *sigh* It was so freakin terrible...

[FreedoM]

Hmm, I was about 10 minutes late to watch the show, but I thought Inoue's VA was a little well weird... To me it didn't match her that well, but it's just that I'm too use to the Japanese VA. As for Taksuki's VA I thought it fit her really well. I didn't get to hear Chad's VA, but Ichigo's VA is working perfectly to be honest. The dub is pretty good so far to me.

[EsDawg]

I'm happy they managed to find a decent voice for Orihime. Not a huge fan of her character but I think she's alright. But the Japanese voice actress has got to have one of the most aggravating voices I've ever heard. She acts well but the pitch is just grating, it's sooo high, it's nearly intolerable.

[Winter-war]

i like both versions but what kind of bother me was how they pronouced "Gigai" and "orihime" it was just so funny but after a while i got used to it. i cant wait ntil some of the VA's start to post on the forums

[LegendaryXM90]

What do you mean post on the forums? As far as I'm concerned JYB is the only one that I know of checking his e-mail, let alone using the internet or a computer for that matter... X_X

Is there a place that we can find the VA's e-mails and ask them to come comment and get criticized (lol) by us?

[hasuke]

Johnny Bosch seems to really shine as Ichigo during the agressive scenes. In the battle with Acidwire, he sounded really in place. I loved Orihime's voice, Chad's was odd but it'll probably get better. I liked Keigo's,Mizuiro's is a bit off for his character type.

I'm saddened by Don Kanonji saying "bwahaha". Both Viz manga AND the Japanese version it's "bohaha"

Ah well. So far, so good!

[ichitaichou]

I think the american dub sounds really wierd compared to the japanese ones. Maybe it's because im too used to the jap ones.

[Mizusa]

The reasion that they were calling her "Orihime" as opposed to "Inoue" is that the localization team felt it seemed wierd for everyone to be refering to one another by family names as in English speaking areas you just call people by their first names. (Similer to how they are calling Ichigo "Ichigo Kurosaki" as opposed to the Japanese order of "Kurosaki Ichigo") it just makes it translate a little smoother.

Oh I know all that, it just bugs me XD They shouldve just kept it like "Kurosaki Ichigo" but then that may confuse people -_- Darn XD I guess it does make the translation alot smoother, thanks for the info! <3~

[ogichi]

not many voices in the show i like ichigos voice is probably the best out of all of them chads needs to be deeper orohime voice is weird and rukia..............i just plain dont like her voice at all its an abomination

[EsDawg]

I think the american dub sounds really wierd compared to the japanese ones. Maybe it's because im too used to the jap ones.
Yeah that's pretty much it. It's kind of awkward to get an idea for a characters voice and speech pattern. Then hear something really different. Honestly I think it works pretty well it just takes some getting used to.

[Bleachjunkie101]

i like the dub in the episodes...not as good as the orginal...but not bad

[Pokedude97]

Chad and Tatsuki sounded ok, I expected chad to have more of a hispanic accent. Inoue sounded horrible....Don Kanonji and Grand Fisher sounded pretty bad too...but I think the worst voice of the dub so far is Inoue.

And it really pissed me off that they called her Orihime instead of Inoue. :@

[LegendaryXM90]

You're going to hate it even more when they call Ishida by Uryu. It'll be like a whole 'nother character...

[aeris211]

when will the episode 3 come?

[SylvanSatyr]

I only caught the first few minutes of the dub but I got to hear most of the voices. I do think Tatsuki's voice wasn't fitting and I suppose Orihime's was okay...Chad's wasn't bad either. Asano and the other guy (I keep forgetting his name -_-) sound too much a like for my liking

[Gettles]

Oh I know all that, it just bugs me XD They shouldve just kept it like "Kurosaki Ichigo" but then that may confuse people -_- Darn XD I guess it does make the translation alot smoother, thanks for the info! <3~

There. Now that you are able to see common sense again, maybe you will be able to look at the dub objectivly as opposed to just going in with the ever popular "Dubs are the EVIL" bias that so many people have.

[aeris211]

the dub is ok for me...better that japanese...the bleach will be coming to the philippines too...:headbang

[Jam-Kiske]

I think the dub's alright. Dubs have been getting better as of late, I think.

And everyone's voice suits them... except that the people who have seiyuus that I know sound frightningly like the characters they've voiced.... it's awkward.

I tried to get my mom to watch the dub with me... but she won't....

Also, the fact that there's a dub on TV now makes it easier for me to Spread the Bleach amongst my friends.

[Mizusa]

There. Now that you are able to see common sense again, maybe you will be able to look at the dub objectivly as opposed to just going in with the ever popular "Dubs are the EVIL" bias that so many people have.

Oh I never said that it was evil. I just said I didnt much like how they said that, it just sounded weird. Personally, I think that Bleach is the best english dub so far, but then again, I havnt seen many english dubs cept for like the ones on YTV lol. Im too lazy to watch them in English once Ive watched them in Jap. But yea, I never said it was evil or bad, that just sounded weird how they said the names. Sorry..