The 1st person Byakuya wished to slay personally...

[Kenta]

If I remember correctly, in the manga he said something along the lines of, "This senkei is only shown to the person I wish to slay personally. You are the second person to see this." to Ichigo. Now the question is, who do you think is that mysterious person? :confused:

So far, I don't think there are any clues as to who it is yet, but what are some thoughts from you guys?

[netorcs]

You know I was wondering about that too...

[DragonBlade]

I am guessing that if Byakuya's wife was "murdered" by someone, then he obviously use his senkei on that person.

[Jinchuu]

I think she died because of an ilness.

Maybe the previous captain?

[Kenta]

I think it might be his parents then. Since both of them died more than 50 years ago, too coincidental to have both died natural causes.

[cook32]

you mean byakuya killed his own parents? thats... i mean, where/how did you come up with this idea... 0_o

[Kenta]

I mean Byakuya avenging his parents' death. They might have been murdered and Byakuya used the senkei to kill him/her/it. :winking56

[cook32]

oh good, yes silly me... =D

[gilgamesh]

yeah thats probably right either of them could be it'll probably eventually say

[cook32]

i definitely wish kubo sensei would reveal this mystery sometime... but it's not on top of my 'need-to-know' list at the moment ^^

[uraharachan]

He showed it to Renji when Renji released his Bankai making Ichigo the second...

[gilgamesh]

wow you just ended a two page discussion congrats

[Kenta]

no, the one he showed to renji was the scattered sakura form of his ban kai. the one he used on Ichigo before Ichigo turned Hollow was where he had the thousands of swords floating in midair and they come down in a split second under his control. the latter is what i am referring to.

[uraharachan]

I pretty sure the translation is off he's referring to his ban-kai only he has never had to release his ban-kai and it was the same tecnique just at full power.

Just went to look it up and yeah it's the same tecnique just in it's true form "full power"

[mazaki]

the translation isn't correct all the time...it gets me off when they use japanese names of the special moves instead of english

[Vegoku]

usually there is an asterisk denoting what the jap name/move is in english.

[tornarchon]

If he showed it to Renji, then why would he have sworn to kill him? If it was for breaking the rules that he cherished so much, he would have killed lots more people.

[uraharachan]

Your only assuming he would have killed lots more people plus Renji is his ***** so he must have felt responsible.

[hasuke]

He showed Renji Sebonzakura Kageyoshi, his Ban Kai.

The move they're talking about is Senkei, the move in which the scattered petals of Sebonzakura Kageyoshi form blades that encircle the combatants and highten Byakuya's power, and reduce his foe's speed.

[uraharachan]

okay whatever im sick of arguing with you guys if there was someone else he wished to kill then so be it leave it alone.

[Kenta]

that's the whole point of this thread, to discuss the possibility of who he first showed his senkei.

[uraharachan]

Well I think its fair to say that it has been discussed and we do not know who he showed it to the first time.

[InS^]

wasn't rukia the first person he wanted to slay personally? (i didn't read the manga yet but saw the anime 2 times, and i'm sure he was gonna kill rukia himself)

[uraharachan]

If you haven't read the manga then please don't comment you don't know what you talking about.

[Jinchuu]

and reduce his foe's speed.

It does not reduce his foe's speed, Ichigo got slower and sluggish because he has a limit as Byakuya explained, however his hollow-half takes over and destroys the limit as Aizen explained.

[chan_shengami]

wrong...if u ppl read the manga it will tell tha byakuya used his bankai on abari renji then ichigo was the 2nd person to see byakuya's bankai duh :doindadom :shithappe

[Sunfire249]

I wonder if Byakuya will fall in love with Rukia since Rukia looks like his old lover...? And if they did, wouldn't that kinda be like incest except not since they're not related???

[Jinchuu]

*lol*

Don't worry he won't ^^.

[Sunfire249]

Lol, okay. That would be really awkward though, now that I think about it ^_^;;; And kay, I can't really figure this out but does Ichigo like Rukia or does he like Orihime or... Who does he like...? This is probably very obvious but I still can't see it. Does he like Rukia? Because in the anime (I know a not very accurate resource but whatever) he's always having flashbacks of Rukia.

[Jinchuu]

Well IMHO, he does not like either of them, maybe because he has no interest in woman.. j/k.

[Hitsugaya Taichou]

wrong...if u ppl read the manga it will tell tha byakuya used his bankai on abari renji then ichigo was the 2nd person to see byakuya's bankai duh :doindadom :shithappe

The form of Ban Kai that Byakuya showed to Renji was Senbonzakura Kageyoshi. The form he showed to Byakuya was Senkei Senbonzakura Kageyoshi. They could be the same, but I don't know what senkei means, so if that makes a difference, I don't know.

Hahaha, Byakuya falling in love w/ Rukia would just be weird, she's his dead wife's little sister, and his adopted sister, as well.

[newsaidin]

He tells Ichigo that he uses this technique on people he had sworn to kill, and that Ichigo is the second one.
I believe it must mean the "advanced" mode, and not the regular, because he CANT be talking about Renji.

Why? Renji isnt dead.

This is my Ultimate Technique. I only use it on people I've sworn to kill. I've used it only once before. Only that person didn't die. Are you afraid yet?

see? doesnt work.

But the only dead people we know of in Soul Society, werent killed by him so... I guess it's wait and see

[Nogarda]

Wow has anyone noticed Ichigo turned Byakuya into a hypocrite? by showing his 'sworn to kill' ban kai, he by default swears on killing ichigo.... but look whats happened when hes being medicated and recovering? (yeah yeah I'm pickin at bits here but still)

But on topic if its yet to be revealed, it will be..... it will be.

[tornarchon]

Wait. The Senkei form is the one with the white swords, right? Renji has actually seen it. In Chapter 143 where Renji tries to get up and stab Byakuya with the base-form Zabimaru, his arm gets impaled by those swords. So is Renji the first person? Kubo-sensei never said whether the first person who saw it got killed, just that Byakuya SWORE to kill him.

[Hitsugaya Taichou]

Senkei form of Senbonzakura is his attack, not a form of sword, unlike other zanpaku-to. Byakuya's senkei is when he says "Chire".

The form of Bankai that Byakuya used only one other time was the one where there are a lot of big swords and Byakuya uses one of them. Yea, the one that was used on Renji near the end of their fight was swords materializing, but if that's really the same form of Bankai that Byakuya showed Ichigo, Senkei Senbonzakura Kageyoshi, then why isn't Renji dead.

If Byakuya had sworn to himself to kill Renji with Senkei Senbonzakura Kageyoshi, he'd have probably killed him right there instead of letting him bleed to death.

[Byakurai]

Yeah, it wasn't Renji.

[~*StÓÑy RèL0ÂÐeD™]

He tells Ichigo that he uses this technique on people he had sworn to kill, and that Ichigo is the second one.
I believe it must mean the "advanced" mode, and not the regular, because he CANT be talking about Renji.
Why? Renji isnt dead.
This is my Ultimate Technique. I only use it on people I've sworn to kill. I've used it only once before. Only that person didn't die. Are you afraid yet?
see? doesnt work.
But the only dead people we know of in Soul Society, werent killed by him so... I guess it's wait and see
but it doesnt mean u sworn to some1 tt u gonna kill him means u will.... just like ichigo sworn to beat urahara in the training basement after ichigo got out of the hole in the 2nd training...

oh n yea...urahara is still walking...

[Undying]

Byakuya didn't use Senkei on Renji - he never said the name of the attack. :p

The 2st person... I guess it would be someone to upset Byakuya... anyway with his personal history so shrouded in mystery it's an impossible guess.

[neroahs]

I don't know Undying, but I have this uneasy feeling that he used it on someone close to him.

[Karakura Red]

yeah you kno byukya's wierd mood swings he may have killed someone close.

[iQing]

he killed the person who teased his hair...

remember Byakkuya tied Gin up forr teasing him :)

[Lolable]

maybe it was urahara

[~*StÓÑy RèL0ÂÐeD™]

he killed the person who teased his hair...

remember Byakkuya tied Gin up forr teasing him :)


?? And here i was recalling Gin tied Zaraki up...

[Shinigami_Josh]

maybe it was urahara

but he still lives

the senki is the whole dome but he can control them by mind but he said if i show this to anyone i will kill them with my own hands

[Centro]

stonedeath, why do you keep digging up old topics?