Unohana Retsu Heal Vs Orihime Heal

[Freemer]

Whose Healing Is Better?

[ちい~ちゃん]

Orihime Because she doesnt really heal you but takes it away back in time to were it never happen. So thats why i say that Orhime is a better healer.

[silverwolf801]

Come on Unohana Retsu is captain level her healing powers beats Orihimes without a doubt.

[Undying]

Orihime.

Although its true that Unohana is "the beast healer of the Gotei 13", Orihime can do two things Unohana can't: 1. restore even sliced off limbs, and 2. revive even the dead.

Also, Orihime's healing is faster and more complete.

[silverwolf801]

Are we really sure that we have seen all of Unohana Retsu full abilities come on now this has to be undecided then.

[ちい~ちゃん]

O come on I dont think she can bring lims back after the being cut off and destroy. Well Orihime can bring it back like it never happen. For example look at Grimmjaw she gave him back his arm so he can be number 6 again.

[Cheryl]

Orihime. She does more than just heal, she rejects the wounds that ever happened.

She healed Grimmjow's arm which had initially been destroyed by Tousen.

I do not believe that even Unohana who is, granted, the best healer of the Gotei13 will be able to reach that level of healing.

[sorrowsjoie]

Orihime must have more unknow powers than now. So the best way is to be with her. :)

[Undying]

@silverwolf: Unohana healed Renji (in the anime, at any rate, I cannot remember if the same was in the manga) after his fight with Byakuya. Renji was not back into his 100% health, and in fact needed more healing from Hantarou just to stand up.

Orihime healed a nearly cut in two Ichigo and he was as good as new later, and that before she got even stronger.

We can gauge pretty safely that Unohana's healing abilities are inferior to Orihime's.

[iQing]

O come on I dont think she can bring lims back after the being cut off and destroy. Well Orihime can bring it back like it never happen. For example look at Grimmjaw she gave him back his arm so he can be number 6 again.


go read manga

and as Undying has spoilt in his post,
Orihime did healed sliced off arm completely and instantly.

[Undying]

I did spoil; Orihime had already healed a cut-off arm in the Soul Society arc. Jidanbou's arm was completely sliced off in the manga and Orihime restored it.

Since it's already was shown in the anime (though messed up - Jidanbou's arm wasn't sliced off), it's not a spoiler.

[SHiKaMaRi]

I say Unohana's healing... I guess because of her Shikai abilities that I'm saying this.

...And how sure are we that Unohana can't restore back lost limbs?

[iQing]

I say Unohana's healing... I guess because of her Shikai abilities that I'm saying this.
...And how sure are we that Unohana can't restore back lost limbs?


the reason is stated very clearly in the manga....
and I dont wanna spoil it like Undying :)

[Achilles]

Orihime's healing power pwnes Unahana's healing power

[5000]

Orihime she the better the any body!

[Kyouka Suigetsu]

The greatest display of Orihime's healing ability, in my opinion, is when she restored those two garbage shinigami who emoboy crapped on. Both had at least half of their bodies removed, but they were as good as new in no time with the powers of the boob. Inoue is the best in this category.

[rei]

hmm... i'd go with the captain. orihime's powers is tied wif her emotions wot if something's bugging her like PMS or sumthing? better stick with the pro. she'll be a close second in my book don't want any of mayuri's concoctions near me.

[Lizie]

definitely orihime......coz she can returned it to the original state

[XV Barixn]

There's a reason why Aizen is interested in Orihime...

He even says why >_>;

[Novem]

Technically I'm not sure you could call Orihime a healer, as she only reverts the body to a time before being injured, that is more the power of a god.

Unohana however is the best healer in the sense of a doctor.

So as a skill of who can do what better with the skills we have a Doctors abilities vs a Godlike ability its a little bit of an unfair contest.

[Undying]

Of course it is, that's why Orihime takes it.

Well, it's true that her powers are not "healing" in the sense of "treating wounds/illness", but when it comes to restoring injured to healthy status Inoue is definitly better.

[Ronin36]

Orihime all the way. Not only are her little fairy-type things cute but she doesn't have this huge creature to heal people with. Her healing is more portable and potent (no proof about the potent part).

[Hunni3]

im still debating orihime's powers. like if she were to "cure" a developement of cancer in the body or something similar. its not really curing right? cuz she turns bak the time? and then wont it still happen?

[Undying]

So what? She's still better than Unohana in restoring teh wounded.

Yeah, her powers are not "heal" per se, but they are still superior to Unohana's/

[Miss M]

Unohana... coz she can heal without using her zanpaktou...
in a battle... what if Orihime loses her power or so... then she'd be helpless....
and Unohana can heal many ppl at the same time... ^^

[Undying]

Orihime can't lose her powers >.>

[rei]

Orihime can't lose her powers >.>

she almost lost her tiny bad as cutting fairy

[Gettles]

I'll put it this way. Because of the nature of her powers, Orihime is potentially the most powerful character in Bleach.

[rei]

whether or not Orihime is potentially the most powerful character in Bleach is not the topic here. i'm going with the captain because she is the best she can heal "clinical precision" and when i say that i mean she goes in there and gets the job done. her feelings put aside while performing her makes her the best at what she does.

[Gettles]

whether or not Orihime is potentially the most powerful character in Bleach is not the topic here. i'm going with the captain because she is the best she can heal "clinical precision" and when i say that i mean she goes in there and gets the job done. her feelings put aside while performing her makes her the best at what she does.

Yes, but the difference is they are healing on two entierly different levels. Unohana fixes the wound, Orihime makes it so the injury never happened in the first place.

[Geosuke]

unohana's ability is purely concentrated in healing. orihime does other stuff like providing barriers and attacking. i'd say unohana is still the most effective healer but its certain that orihime has a big potential in making it at 4th division if she ever becomes a shinigami.

[Hime-chan]

orihime ,she cleans you up ,fix your clothes, take away cuts,she even gets rid of the blood on your clothes which is very hard to get out.all of that and all you have to do is lay there without anyone poking at you and touching you.

[Neko Bam]

Orihime for the simple reason she can turn back time with her powers.
Sure, Unohana can cure most wounds but can she regrow an arm that has been burned to ashes?

[Lelouch]

Orihime doesnt heal.

[Undying]

This is ancient.

Orihime doesnt heal.
QFT.

Orihime reverses time. This is far more advanced than healing, she can raise the dead.

[silverwolf801]

Orihime is basically plot kai in itself. she can bring anyone back to life. Alacuard can't beat that

[Minielf]

Orihime is basically the Bleach version of Dragonballs. She can revive anyone even if they're reduced to microscopic ashes and restore any missing limbs or gaping wounds like nothing. Unohana and the 4th Division are more like DBZ Senzu beans. They can heal deep wounds and restore your energy, but they can't completely eliminate scars or restore limbs that have been lost.

Thus in that respect Orihime is definitely the better healer. No wonder she is coveted by both sides. Whoever has ultimate control over her basically wins, just like it was with the Dragonballs.

[Bankai_Zangetsu]

i wonder ... does anyone get stronger after being "healed" by orihime. if her ability is rejection would it just bring the body back to the way it was before a fight? i mean i assume they do get stronger by shounen logic ... but by normal human logic they shouldnt... in which case id vote unohana cuz then people healed by her would have the "saiyan power up effect" (lol).

oh and spoiler

you cant say that her powers helped extend ichigos mask time. it only got boosted because of his will to fight. also he was havin a fun ass time fighting grimmdaddy

[TuRm0iL]

unohana, she actualy heals.
Orihime just reverses time within a sphere, which can be used to undo things.
Basically she just has a huge undo button. Wow i just realized, she can never fail at anything. She could like undo Hueco Mundo from inside of it!

[SenpaiRetsu]

unohana, she actualy heals.
Orihime just reverses time within a sphere, which can be used to undo things.
Basically she just has a huge undo button. Wow i just realized, she can never fail at anything. She could like undo Hueco Mundo from inside of it!


orihime "just" reverses time? um that makes her power uber. I'm easily one of the biggest Unohana fans in the forum, but even me a fanboy have to say Unohana can't hold a candle to Orihime in that department.

However, Orihime has a glaring weakness. What if the thing she's targeting has never been healthy? say for instance some was born with a crooked spine, or a number of defects and problems that someone can be born with. it doesn't matter how far she rejects, if it never was good, than there is nothing she can do. while someone like Unohana could possibly fix the problem. I'm thinking why this is why Orihime doesn't reject Ukitake's disease, maybe he always had it since birth.

[Lirion]

Orihimime can restore pretty much anything to the way it was, I haven't seen Unohana do the same.

Orihimie should just deny Aizens existance and erase him with her power, she's the most powerful character in Bleach. :p

[IRLaughingMan]

Within KT's world of Bleach it has been stated that Orihime's power was a healing power, then the Vizards got a hold of her and said it was a time reversal thing, then Aizen got a hold of her and said it was an "event negation" thing. So if we take KT's word as law then she is healing... or reversing time... or negating events... or? Perhaps, like so many other aspects to Bleach, Orihime's abilities have yet to be properly defined. I believe there is a limit to her powers, she can regenerate an extension of a living thing as long as its vital organs remain intact enough to be "living". I don't think she can bring the dead to life. The only close calls with this is when Orihime restores Menoly after Grimmjow cero's half her body, and when she restores Ichigo after being impaled by Ulquiorra but it is possible for both of them to be whole enough to still be alive.

To the question of who is better healer Unohana v. Orihime I have to give it to Unohana. Remember we have not seen her Bankai yet. Furthermore while Orihime's powers have grown Unohana is a top class Captain and her ability to heal multiple individuals is probably greater than Orihime.

[Gojira]

Orihimme's power rejects reality... The ultimate plotkai in itself... She can't be stopped and can bring the dead back to life... by rejecting reality...

Point goes to Orihimme.

[Habanero]

I believe there is a limit to her powers, she can regenerate an extension of a living thing as long as its vital organs remain intact enough to be "living".

For some reason peope have been debating over this on both anime and manga section in the last few days, but in my opinion Chap.274, page12 (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/274/12/) (the Menoly incident) doesn't leave much room for speculation.

But that's just me... :rolleye09

[diamondedge]

Within KT's world of Bleach it has been stated that Orihime's power was a healing power, then the Vizards got a hold of her and said it was a time reversal thing, then Aizen got a hold of her and said it was an "event negation" thing.
To negate an events means to make it seem like it never happened, I think that negation and reversal are two same things. When she negate she somewhat does reverse time, but only for the targeted object, if you know what I mean.

Since Hime doesn't heal Unohana wins this. Orihime is simply ace in the hole that could theoretically prevent any worst case scenario.

[Sin]

I agree with Diamondedge: Unohana wins by default since Orihime doesn't actually heal. Her ability is spatial rejection. And as far as Unohana healing Renji i think she only did enough to keep him alime not to fix him completely. I am assuming its because she had to attend the execution and that she didn't want to fix him completely because he did just break out of jail.

[IRLaughingMan]

For some reason peope have been debating over this on both anime and manga section in the last few days, but in my opinion [the Menoly incident] doesn't leave much room for speculation.

As I said in my post the only two cases that come close is the Menoly and Ichigo "rejections". Although Menoly looks like she couldn't possibly be alive I have to wonder... was she ever? Are Arrancer not hollows? Does that not mean they are already dead and are souls? Aside from complete obliteration(not even dust particals left) or being cut with a Zampakutoh can they be killed just by tearing half their body off? I just feel that KT is obviously leaving her power somewhat of a mystery. Her powers have been claimed to be many things and although the Char.s statements neccessarily come from KT I don't think they are always 100% correct. Just because Aizen says it is negation of an event doesn't make it so(although I am not arguing that it isn't simply using an example). Anyways I just think there is still a limit to her rejection powers, I don't think anyone has been ressed by Orihime, thats my two cents....

[The sunlight]

Orihime is simply ace in the hole that could theoretically prevent any worst case scenario.

Unless Orihime dies.
Like that 'll ever happen..:rolleye09
anyway, if it would, bleach would deserve more respect

[TuRm0iL]

Anyways, with orihimes power to reject, what is the possible space/time effects?
I mean, she rejects an event from ever happening. Therefore melony would have never been hit with the cero in the first place, meaning orihime would never have had to heal her...

Also, if orihime undid the (ermmm whats arrancar making ball of power thingy called again? wow they havent mentioned it in so many eps ive forgot :P), it would likely lead to everyone being back in their respective places before they were affected by it.
Rukia would have left for soul society at her own choice since she would have gotten a normal gigai from urahara. She would most likely have gotten her powers back far earlier and just left ichigo in the real world with the powers she had donated to him.
Aizen would not be able to conquer the worlds, and everything would stay as it was right before the SS arc.

EDIT: there would also be a slight chance of SS arc happening (rukia still had broken the rules and would be set for execution), but without aizen being revealed as the main "badguy" at the end.

EDIT #2: Srry if this is considered spam, i just figured that since the previous question had been pretty much answered, i figured i'd guide it off on a new tangent related to the effects of what nearly everyone has defined orihimes powers to be.

[Undying]

Anyways, with orihimes power to reject, what is the possible space/time effects?
I mean, she rejects an event from ever happening. Therefore melony would have never been hit with the cero in the first place, meaning orihime would never have had to heal her...
Also, if orihime undid the (ermmm whats arrancar making ball of power thingy called again? wow they havent mentioned it in so many eps ive forgot :P), it would likely lead to everyone being back in their respective places before they were affected by it.
Rukia would have left for soul society at her own choice since she would have gotten a normal gigai from urahara. She would most likely have gotten her powers back far earlier and just left ichigo in the real world with the powers she had donated to him.
Aizen would not be able to conquer the worlds, and everything would stay as it was right before the SS arc.
EDIT: there would also be a slight chance of SS arc happening (rukia still had broken the rules and would be set for execution), but without aizen being revealed as the main "badguy" at the end.
EDIT #2: Srry if this is considered spam, i just figured that since the previous question had been pretty much answered, i figured i'd guide it off on a new tangent related to the effects of what nearly everyone has defined orihimes powers to be.
No. Orihime does not reject the entire timeline of the event. She only cancels one event from happening. However, everything before and after said event is uneffected.

[VIDTID]

well seeing as we havent seen unohanas healing ability yet ill have to say im undecided^^
Also hime doesnt actually heal technically :p

[Ryohei]

Unohana Retsu is a division captain and she had powerful healing techniques and skills. Orihime's healing is powerful like Unohana's. So I think they're 'equal'.

[Zanga]

Anyways, with orihimes power to reject, what is the possible space/time effects?
I mean, she rejects an event from ever happening. Therefore melony would have never been hit with the cero in the first place, meaning orihime would never have had to heal her...

Also, if orihime undid the (ermmm whats arrancar making ball of power thingy called again? wow they havent mentioned it in so many eps ive forgot :P), it would likely lead to everyone being back in their respective places before they were affected by it.
Rukia would have left for soul society at her own choice since she would have gotten a normal gigai from urahara. She would most likely have gotten her powers back far earlier and just left ichigo in the real world with the powers she had donated to him.
Aizen would not be able to conquer the worlds, and everything would stay as it was right before the SS arc.

EDIT: there would also be a slight chance of SS arc happening (rukia still had broken the rules and would be set for execution), but without aizen being revealed as the main "badguy" at the end.

EDIT #2: Srry if this is considered spam, i just figured that since the previous question had been pretty much answered, i figured i'd guide it off on a new tangent related to the effects of what nearly everyone has defined orihimes powers to be.

Inoue's rejection ability lets her wipe something out of existence but people who have interacted with that person/item would still have memory of it.

So if somehow Inoue managed to 'reject' the Hogoukyou, thought it'd be gone, all the arrancars created from it would remain and all the memories of it being taken, the whole Aizen betrayal thing would still be remembered.

For example, Grimmjaw's arm. If the memory of it getting cut off/burnt was rejected, no one would've given us the reaction that was got(Grimmjaw going 'wtf?' and Luppi going like 'ZOMFG NO WAI'). They all still remembered it getting cut off thus were surprised when the arm was restored.

[Bombarta]

I vote Orihime. Turning back time on an injury will always win over simply healing injuries. Recovery time is almost always necessary with a healed injury,whereas injuries that were made as "never happened" require no resting period.

[Kenken]

If we're talking about effectiveness, Inoue's would win. She can 'heal' any kind of injury, and even bring back the dead. Unohana's should only be able to heal any kinds of wounds except for fatal ones, as I doubt she can bring back people from the dead.

As for speed, I would still vote for Inoue, as she can get anyone, no matter what, into perfect condition in hours and maybe worst case scenarion, some days. Unohana could help someone recover, but as any doctor she can't (or logically shouldn't be able) to get someone heavily wounded into a perfect state in a matter of hours.

[ultimate]

Orihime is the better healer. She heals faster then Unohana and her power is more effective at healing too. Orihime "healed" Grimmjow's arm which was cut off and destroyed by Tousen and also brought back the number 6 tattoo on Grimmjow's body.

One of the Arrancar girls died, forgot which it was [Menoly or Loly] but she brought one of them back to life. I don't think Unohana can do that no matter how good she is at healing.

But technically Orihime's powers is not healing powers. Also her powers can attack and defend which are all called "rejection" or something including the healing ability

[Klavier Gavin]

Orihime wins this hands down. She isn't exactly healing, but actually reversing the time to when a wound wasn't inflicted. Unohana heals wound literally, so the after effects if any would still be there.

In Orihime's case, there would be no case of after effects.

[MetalSpawn]

I would say Orihime because she negates the wound and can even bring back the dead. The only flaw we have seen in her power so far is that she struggles to reject wounds that have a high reatsu(sic) surrounding the wound so if for example ichigo gets stabbed by aizen then maybe Unohana would do better because orihime would struggle to reject it because of aizens high reatsu(sic) and medicine is not effected by reatsu(sic)

[Neko Bam]

Shouldn't this be in the bleach battles?

Anyway, I think Orihime because turning back time > regular healing

[•XxOucHxX•]

Orihime of course.
Its not a heal.Its just reverting time...She can erase events..
So she got back Grimmjows arm and it was done in a couple of seconds..
Unohana is just healing and it doesnt heal instantly.

[KIRA¿]

Orihime because she can bring people back from just a pile of dust

[B-Eazy]

This is not really fair because Unohana actually heals and Inoue just undoes the actual event that causes pain and therefore is in a different realm entirely. All in all i think Orihimes is superior

[Kurosaki Isshin]

Sorry but a potion is the number one way to heal. Its been the number one way in tons of animes and games.

[bentricky]

Maaaaan, does no-one here even concider the power of science? Not to mention the pure SPEED of Mayuri's regeneration injection.

You got to remember him battling Sawatari (The old Bounto with a dimension-bending fish doll called Baura), losing an arm to him was a joke, he actually didn't give a rat's.

His regeration is complete and instantaneous, even Orihime's healing takes a little while, if not forever (time is often bent to suit the flow of the anime, or so I've come to realise) and she can be easily interrupted. And besides, it doesn't even take any effort, or use up any spirt power!

[Klavier Gavin]

I must remind you that the bounto arc is filler, so you can't really take it into comparison. If he can truly heal that way, he wouldn't have to flee against Ishida by turning into the liquid form in which he is invulnerable.

[•XxOucHxX•]

Of course Inoue..Her what so called healing technique isnt really Healing.
Its reverting time.
+ Its still not at its maximum..It can still improve...
She got back Grimmjows arm in a second..
Unohana couldnt do that !

[Freya]

Orihime's healing ability for one very important reason.

IT TURNS BACK TIME!!!!

She can bring ppl who have died back to life. Crazy and cool!:toocool:

[Evenstar]

I think Orihime has an unequaled advantage here. First and foremost, she doesn't heal --- she RESTORES. Her abilities are still in their current progress, but who knows, she might be able to resurrect the dead someday.

Also, she can heal a lot of people at one go, her fairies just need to make a wide arc that would contain all the victims and poof! They'll be restored in no time.

[Timonaru]

I am pretty sure that the fourth squad capt could bring back an arm I lost in battle...

[TEMPUS]

Actually Mitzuki (the Flying Animal) Is Her Bankai, Not Her Shinkai.

[SenpaiRetsu]

Actually Mitzuki (the Flying Animal) Is Her Bankai, Not Her Shinkai.

no mitzuki is her shikai.

[Tank9001]

Orihime is better casuse she isn't really healing but rejecting that it ever happened. So there is nothing she can not heal.

[Lightey Natsume]

I would have to say orihme it is more powerful and its more like the scaring event that got you injured never happened.