A Scientific Approach to Which Gender Is Better

[kyubisan]

Guys and Girls each have a set of chromosones.

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Guys have an x and a y.

XY

While Gils have 2 x's.

XX

Think of an x as a car and a y as a bike. Now in order to keep from being genetically retarted, girls will smash their second x. (For those of you who don't know having two types of the same chromosone will make you genetically retarted unless your body smashes one of them) Now think of it this way Girls have a car and a smashed up piece of crap and Guys have a car and a bike. This is why guys are scientifically better.

[sinkinswimmer]

lol, wow.... that's an interesting way to look at it.

[red_johnny]

Right, also you have to look at how the body is built. Guys have larger bones, muscles, well just about everything. While girls have wider hips, weaker bones, smaller muscles (unless on steriords) and are just physically weaker. Now thats not to say a girl cant beat a guy as I have seen that before but if you take the average man and the average woman there is no contest to the ammount of work a man can do compared to the ammount of work a woman can do. You can argue until you are blue in the face about how woman can do the same as a man but its physically impossible for a woman to keep up with a man...speaking averages. Sure there are allways cases of stronger females who can keep up with the avarage but its extremely rare for the strongest female to beat the strongest male. But dont mind me...I am just saying.

[netorcs]

Men, men, men... so superior...I think I am gonna gag. :eek13:

I personally don't think one gender is better than the other.. and that we compliment each other...HOWEVER since I need tell protect my gender, I will tell you all why women are better:winking56

Women tend to be more detailed oriented..so we find things easier... We may not be stronger but we have a larger threshold for pain, we can reproduce the species (and all you guys would be screwed if we couldn't), Our double chromosome protects us from more genetic problems.. because they overlap... including balding..hehe...

[kyubisan]

The reproduction thing is a double-edged sword. I mean I really haven't seen any girls who can reproduce a-sexually, but that may just be cause I don't get out much. As for the other things, well they go with personality which can be credited to various stimuli that can be changed with each individual, so that means guys can also have those qualities.

[ningo]

maybe one of the mods will move this onto the debate section...this could get quite heated/fun...

[netorcs]

The reproduction thing is a double-edged sword. I mean I really haven't seen any girls who can reproduce a-sexually, but that may just be cause I don't get out much.

Yeah and you gonna carry it in your backpack until its ready to be born?? :eek13:




And your probably right, Ningo.. but I hate debates.. so thats all folks! :musak:

[sinkinswimmer]

i like women... but i enjoy being a guy... can't say i'll actually argue over which is better though... seems redundant

[Qjimbo]

Yeah both have faults in my view, the majority of men are arrogant, desperate idiots, and the majority of women are full of crap :p

But there are good people on either side... they're just getting harder and harder to find these days.

[red_johnny]

As to what I was saying, I was just looking at the physical barriers between men and woman. Sure there are things each can do better but the whole threshold for pain thing, highly doubtful. Yeah you give birth to kids, I have 3 so I know about how much pain they go through but as far as handleing it well...uh no. I have seen woman get splinters and whine and cry about it while some of us men just pluck it out with no problems and on the flip side, I have seen some woman get their hands cut and then just wrap it up while I have seen some guys faint at the site of there own blood! So there are two sides to every battle and I think this one is even in the end only because its a battle us guys just cant win!

[Ryudell]

Does it have to be physical??? honestly, that's narrow. Yes women are phsically weaker than men, but then the responsibility of protecting the women lies on men too^^ So men are stronger, but they're horribly dense in certain areas, which women excel. Men and women compliment each other by making up for each other's weaknesses, creating a perfect balance. So really, we're pretty even generally. And that X Y chromosome anology is bad. why a bike for god's sake????

[Saori]

I agree with HackeD, after all, how can you compare a flower to an animal? Sure, they're both living, but they're so totally different from each other. I don't think either gender is superior to the other one. Both have their downfalls and their good points. I think you just have to make the best out of the gender that you've got... sure you can complain sometimes (I do that all the time), but don't you all have that moment where you go 'my god, I'm so glad I'm a boy/girl"?

[Uzichida Cantameru]

Now let me ask u this, what about people who change genders, they are (say it together) WILD CARDS! lol but seriously does it matter who is better cause most males believe women are objects while others dont. So we are equal cept the discrimatory type people.

[Sunfire249]

Good buddha! How can you compare I guy and a girl??? For one thing, guys and girls "averagly" if you guys would like to say it had two COMPLETELY DIFFERENT work loads in the past, so you can't ever say that guys are better than girls. Would you like me to kick your ass for you to prove it?

Guys aren't always the stronger ones. It is proven that girls are faster and more agile than guys, and have a greater sense of right and wrong. So don't be freakin' sexist or you're gonna have a Sh**load of girls who are gonna be whoopin your ass. Like me. And don't think this is all talk. My family has a long line of warriors, and nowhere in the line has it stopped.

Besides, that, guys AND girls have their weaknesses. You can NEVER EVER say that one is better than the other. That kind of attitude really pisses me off. I think both are equal.

[asian]

er...what about this...each gender is better in it's own way. but it evens out. okay? okay, end of discussion. before we have a massacare to prove which ones right.

[red_johnny]

Ok. All you who do not wish to offend, some of you allready have. To the ladies, admit it....YOUR WRONG! Think of all the greatest minds of all time, think of all the sports that are dominated by men! Now I am not saying that "me man, me better" no not at all, but look further into the "facts" that you are coming up with. I dont know where you are gaining your data from like the whole girls are faster and more agile, right tell that to the track teams where you will find that allmost all the guys will run circles around the girls. Anywho, I dont want to piss off anyone but dog-gone if some of you gals have not thought through with what you are saying. Again, I dont care who thinks who is better...I could not care less cause in the end with out man or woman there would be no one in the world. I personally need my woman or I would have never excelled to where I am today so I think woman rock but I dont think things are totally equal either. I give up on both sides cause I know whats coming next....Oh your not thinking about this or that....well neither are you. WHO CARES! Anyway, you all have fun debating.

[Sunfire249]

You know, this thing is making me very pissed. I just don't really care anymore, we compliment each other and that's it. I don't give a rat's ass about this stupid thread anymore and someone should shut it down before like asian says we all massacre each other.

[Tesh]

Ok. All you who do not wish to offend, some of you allready have. To the ladies, admit it....YOUR WRONG! Think of all the greatest minds of all time, think of all the sports that are dominated by men!

Well, on the point of greatest minds, we should consider the fact that in many parts of the world, such proffessions were unsuited and even forbidden for women to practice for a very long time. If women took control today, and forbade us men to be scientists, writers etc. etc. then the women would be the ones making all the discoveries and producing the greatest minds.

Note that I'm not trying to argue against you or anyone else in here, I'm just saying women haven't had equal chances to men in the past on a 'career' level. They still don't in some areas.


Anyway, I think comparing genders is pointless. You don't say which part of Yin & Yang that's the best, they are parts of a whole. Human beings need eachother. Men needs women, women needs men, men needs men and women needs women. Living creatures are unique. Who cares if men are physically superior? We men have unique aspects, so do women. I can't put this in a scientific way or anything, but that's how I feel.

[Sunfire249]

Mhmm, I can definitly agree with what you're saying ^_^ Finally, a guy who can put this in a logical way and not make me angry... No offense to the other guys...

[Sahiden]

This definitely is the most idiot debate I've ever seen...
Superiority... BHA.
This is so useless. As there really is no answer.
I know guys I can beat up in no time and I know girls who'd beat the crap out of me.
So basically this is a relative and very perceptional thing. In other words there is NO right answer outside this one: We should work towards equality, in both mental and physical purposes. One side cannot live without the other side, so what is the point.
In my language I'd describe this thread like:

Dees is veel te veel macho en te weinig nadenken, anders gezegd: hier zit weinig tot helemaal geen rede in. En nog minder verstand.

I have seen a good equality point here though so I guess there truly are smart people as well on this forum... Heh.

[Donkmue]

Errm, It looks like just about everything was covered, but I agree that they are both equal and that women were looked upon as lessers for a while so they became a lesser part of the society. But now with an a more equalized outlook, the women are taking up jobs and so fourth. An example of a female coming up with a discovery was this one lady who got a lot of information on DNA, then the other people (who got the credit) stole the data from her and took most of the credit. My view is because of our past as a human race women have been looked on as lesser, but as I said, they are becoming more equal now.

[Pipp-ORK]

Women shouldn't have to become "more" equal, they should have been just as equal in the first place. This thread is blatantly STUPID, not to mention degrading, and sexist towards women. You can't just pull some dumb theory out of your ass and base upon it that men are the BETTER gender. I'm certain that if you walked up to a woman with any self-pride at all, and told her that car/bike thing, she'd beat you within an inch of your life. I know I would.

[kurue]

i agree with u pipp ^^ great comment ^_^ !

[Donkmue]

If I wasn't clear, I ment more equal in the eyes of others, I was saying that they were looked down on. I don't agree with what people used to do, and when women were basically at the same level of slaves, but that is part of the reason the men were glorified. Since the women weren't allowed to do stuff the men looked down on them. In pagan cultures of the european areas and maybe elsewhere, women were looked upon as supurior, but when the christian faith came women were downsized, since it says women came from man, so men were like "Oh, we were made first so we are better" so they got that mindset and eventually they restricted the women. I hope I'm right, I got some parts of the argument from "The Davinci Code" by Dan Brown. And from speculation and me being a male.

[Sunfire249]

This is a VERY sexist thread, and making quick enemies of others but I can see what you're saying people. EQUALITY! Not OVER-equality!

[ZeroWind]

Hulk smash.

[Pipp-ORK]

If I wasn't clear, I ment more equal in the eyes of others, I was saying that they were looked down on.
I wasn't arguing against what you wrote, Donkmue, I was referring to the thread as a whole and Kyubisan's bike/car theory. ^_^

[Donkmue]

Ah, ok, I didn't want to be misunderstood on a touchy subject like this, and I think and hope Kyubisan was just kidding, that was as bad as anime relationships based on hair color.

[Pharcyde]

It depends how you look at it, and which people you assess.
Men, for the most part, will ALMOST always be physically stronger.
women tend to be better at mental issues than some men, notice how i say some, cause ive met some pretty dumb women, but have met piss stupid men.
So i guess majoritywise women are smarter, but not by much. on the other hand most scientific advancements have been the work of men. but i still tip my hat to marie curie and uranium.

either way chances are females have a higher survival rate than men, primarily because they can control most of us by the balls, and thats pretty damn clever. Woman can live without men, most men dont wanna live without women. I sure as hell wouldnt wanna live in a world filled with bastards like us

[Sahiden]

You do realise you just said something dumb?

[ISAMU]

Well to reiterate what was already said... Number one, I think this is a dumb debate. Number two, women are good at some things while men are good at others. Now that does not mean that a man could not do what women are good at or a woman do what men are good at . We are different though and that is apparent. That’s why we have different bathrooms!

I don't have a penny so this will have to be my 5cents worth :LOL:

[hyperion]

I'm not choosing sides, but a lot of things people have been citing as making one gender better than the other may have to do more with society and how we raise our kids.

I read a book that talked about the reason guys lean more towards physical activities, science, etc is based on their childhood. Guys play with army men, laser guns, play little league, and are encouraged to be strong and tough. They also have more role models (football players, action stars, famous scientists, etc) that they are told to look up to. Toys geared toward young girls lean more toward domestic skills, fashion, and they are encouraged to be pretty. A lot of the women are told to emulate are models and movie stars. The author of the book theorized that was why more men are more interested in sports, become soldiers & police officers, and study math & science than women. That was also the reason there are more women teachers, models, why women are more detail oriented, and why many women lean toward fiction and fantasy writing. Also society affirms those roles by making it unusual for a guy to design dresses and a woman to enroll in military school.

So if you made it ok for boys to play with dolls and girls to play cops & robbers, would that change the way the behaved as adults?

[Donkmue]

Hmmm, good question, that would be like Nurture vs. Nature, if you make a thread of that I will post there. I can't because I'm not good at spelling.

[Apocalypse]

Hmmm... it depends on how you look at it. Men are typically thought to be the stronger of the two genders. Then again, some females have prooven that they too can be as strong (or stronger) than males. Females are generally regarded as the more mature and intelligent. Then again, we have guys who are extremely intelligent too. I think when you consider the intelligent guys, and the strong women, that there is a sort of balance. Women and Men both have the same potential; it is their choice to unlock the path they take.


Now I WILL say that it is HARDER for genders to get in to specific roles, but this is usually because of stereotyping. It might be harder for a woman to get in to a sport, for example. Generally, I am sort of ashamed by that. I don't think anyone has the right to claim one is better than the other. That seems wrong. If a woman wants to be a pro wrestler, I say "Go ahead!", if a guy wants to stay at home with the kids, I say, "Have fun!". Why should I care or pass judgements? We all have the same potential, in my mind.


(To the opening arguement though, I must say one thing in terms of genetics. Women have an advantage over men, not a disadvantage. You see, where men have a "car and bike", a woman does NOT have a "car and crushed garbage". On the contrary. Women do indeed have TWO "cars". If one breaks down, they can use the other one. Also, the "bike" the man has... is coated with lethal poison. A Y chromosome can not support you... you WILL die. Did you know this? This is why women typically get less disease, and live longer than men. Just informing you.)

[Schoulayer]

This whole debate is retarded :toocool:

Both are nothing without the other.

[IaMTALLw]

i agree with schoulayer why dont we just close this thread and get along like.. like people who get along...

[Sunfire249]

OMG this is the most retarded thread ever! CAn someone PLEASE shut this down?!?! This is so freakin' offensive!

[dare2move]

dear kyubisen,

please don't take this to offence but are you just posting this because you got dumped or you can't get some? because you sound like you have a secret, ulterior grudge against girls that i am only assuming can grow from being dumped. no idiot on this face of the planet would post something as offending as what you have just posted without a secret grudge. please take your biased feelings and stop this before it gets worse. i think an apology is in order. kthxbye.

love, dare2move.

p.s: i'm not biased towards girls. i'm only saying this because posting this is just like me saying nonsense how guys are sex fiends with no brains whatsoever (which is totally not true). but the level of offence is the same, if not worse. don't even say this to a girl or you're going to end up being a crazy crackpot babylicker geezer, which i'm sure you don't want to become.

[General Cox]

tis a bit offensive, tbh there is no better sex, to say that is to be byist to your own sex or the other, i think that neither sex is better but together we make each other better and you cant say im saying this from being in love or anything because im going through a break up atm :/ Or could be us getting back together i dunno

[Sahiden]

Ah, Tis the horrible thread again, I thought it seized to exist...
Why is this still here... Someone shut it down... Forever.

[Tokoyami]

i dont think women can handle pain any better than men can. They give child birth yes, but its not like they ignore or surpress the pain.

I think Men can handle pain much better than women for the most part.

[Sunfire249]

PLEASE SHUT IT DOWN!!

Toko: EXCUSE ME?!?! Just because men can handle lots of pain, that doesn't mean women can't handle as much either! You'd be surprised at how many guy-wimps I've seen in my day.

[Sahiden]

Fact: scientific research has proven that men are more resistant to pain, it had something to do with hormonal diffirences.

But hell, pain is pain and it's not funny. More like painfull.
Other than scientific facts, who cares. Equality forever.

[Sunfire249]

You do realize that scientific research varies every few years? You can't justify by saying "this is fact" because "this many people" did "this test". It's just not completely honest. You'd have to try a test on the whole world to actually prove it.

THIS IS THE DUMBEST THREAD I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY WHOLE LIFE!!

[ningo]

Ah, Tis the horrible thread again, I thought it seized to exist...
Why is this still here... Someone shut it down... Forever.
I don't see why we have to close the thread down...I'm actually slightly disappointed with how this thread panned out...I was hoping to see more blood spilt on the topic...all this popcorn is going to go to waste now

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Or maybe not...sun appears to be nicely cooking now :LOL:

[Sandal Hat]

You can't test the whole world thats why they have a certain number of people to test scientic problems :)

Also even if males are less sensitive to pain than females it also depends of the mind as well thats we have lots of wimpy guyz

[General Cox]

it really depends on person to person between the sexes, you could say men are brainier and then look at the dumass who annoys me with phone calls from india asking if i want a new phone (no btw) and a girl who is at the top of her feild in marine biology. Doesnt work like that :P

im actually glad noone has been silly enough to fall into the trap of saying one is better than the other, i mean you cant say men make the best at giving birth or that women can pee most accurate can you :P

[Tokoyami]

it really depends on person to person between the sexes, you could say men are brainier and then look at the dumass who annoys me with phone calls from india asking if i want a new phone (no btw) and a girl who is at the top of her feild in marine biology. Doesnt work like that :P

im actually glad noone has been silly enough to fall into the trap of saying one is better than the other, i mean you cant say men make the best at giving birth or that women can pee most accurate can you :P

Each gender has there differences. But physically men are stronger. Or rather, men have the more physical potential than women do.

EXCUSE ME?!?! Just because men can handle lots of pain, that doesn't mean women can't handle as much either! You'd be surprised at how many guy-wimps I've seen in my day.
Women cant handle as much, its genetically proven they cant. Men are physically stronger.

But i think that Women are mentally faster than men. or they have more common sense than men. (i.e. Jackass the movie)

[dare2move]

I don't see why we have to close the thread down...I'm actually slightly disappointed with how this thread panned out...I was hoping to see more blood spilt on the topic...all this popcorn is going to go to waste now

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Or maybe not...sun appears to be nicely cooking now :LOL:

you don't want to see her go on a full rant. it's freaking scary. run for it while you still can. or else everything shall be burnt with her anger. including the popcorn.

[Pipp-ORK]

Men are physically stronger. But i think that Women are mentally faster than men. or they have more common sense than men. (i.e. Jackass the movie)
Men aren't physically stronger as a whole. There are women who are stronger than some men; therefore, you can't justify that "men" are physically stronger, in general. It isn't a fact that women have more common sense than men, and if you actually believe this, you really need to meet my grandmother. Both genders are balanced, males aren't better than females or vice versa. There. Now someone PLEASE close this thread before the hate posting starts. Again. U_U

[Sandal Hat]

I think men have more potential to be stonger than women and our hormones make us have more muscle normally but it all depends on how hard you work thats why we have women body builders. i think common sense differs among ppl in a whole and not gender related

[ssmercurys]

^^ I agree with his responce completely, there are some women out there that are 10x stronger than any guy I know, and those are the women that WANT to be that way. The normal body of a woman is meant to be petite or at least medium build but they can skill themselves up just as well as we can ^^

[ningo]

Men aren't physically stronger as a whole. There are women who are stronger than some men; therefore, you can't justify that "men" are physically stronger, in general.
Not that I think that one gender is better than the other, but you can justify that men are physically stronger in general.Nobody said "every man is stronger than any woman". The statement "men are stronger than women" is usually intepreted to mean that the "average" man is stronger than the "average" woman. Quite how you define this average is another issue, but barring you used a very skew sample you would find that men in general are stronger than women; it's in the genes i.e. men have broarder shoulders and thicker set frames in general.
To illustrate my point, if I were to make the statement "spiders eat flies", would the statement "no they don't, there are parasitic wasps that lay their eggs in spiders so that the grubs hatch and consume the spider" be an appropriate response.
Neither gender is better than the other, but we are certainly different; to say otherwise is nonsense.
BTW Tokoyami,out of interest, what do you mean when you say that it has been "genetically proven"?

[sinkinswimmer]

wow... such high tensions here. People, calm down. Given a few pieces of information here, let's see if I can't help straighten things out.

1) There is no scientifically - proven, better gender.
2) Each gender has their strengths and weaknesses.
3) Men and women generally do have different strengths and weaknesses.
4) Most everything can be done by either a male or female, so quit your whining.
5) The original post in this thread was satirical, hence my amusement at the post.
6) People have their personal opinions. But they should be posted in a less offensive way.

[General Cox]

its a very hard topic to dicuss without someone getting heated unfortunately, for god knows what reason. Tbh it would probably be best for the thread to be closed in case any bad blood does come from it :/

that or we stop posting in it, this shalt be my last post in this topic :)

[Sunfire249]

I agree with sinkin. K, even IF there are some guys that can handle "pain" more or whatever the hell you want to compare, you can't just say that that works with every guy. And you can't say that some girls are smarter because I have ALOT of dumbass girls in my class.. ALOT of dumb ass girls.

There are also a BUNCH of ripped girls out there that I've seen. Are you trying to be freakin' sexist or something or are you just trying to pick a fight? Look, I'm not saying I'm not biased but you can't just group "this set of people" and "this set of people" together. There are those who are strong and those who aren't. There are those who are smart and those who are dumb. That's just how life works. There's no "The girls are better..." or "The boys are better" and nothing.

And another thing, guys have no right to call girls wimps. Even though yeah, there are some girls who constantly whine and whine about how pregnancy is so hard, it's actually harder then it looks. Try going through every morning having to throw up or have something in your stomach trying to slive you open. It's not that easy.

As for what dare said about my rants, I'm not going to get into it. If you REALLY want to read it, I'll post the link but I don't think you guys wanna waste your time.

http://www.livejournal.com/users/sunfire249/2005/08/04/

Other than that I quit from this post. Permamently.

[Tokoyami]

I think men have more potential to be stonger than women and our hormones make us have more muscle normally but it all depends on how hard you work thats why we have women body builders. i think common sense differs among ppl in a whole and not gender related

Yea i agree that men have more potential, i should have said that instead. Sorry Pipp-ORK, i miss spoke what i meant to say, i didnt mean to make it a generality.

EDIT: i think this topic should be closed, the point was to debate which gender was better from a scientific aproach, and we havent really been doing that.

[Sandal Hat]

Who is sunfire mad at. I or nobody else has posted that girls are better or boys are better and i haven't seen anywhere where a girl was called a wimp

even though i have just started posting in this thread so maybe it was a few pages back back.

[dare2move]

I agree with sinkin. K, even IF there are some guys that can handle "pain" more or whatever the hell you want to compare, you can't just say that that works with every guy. And you can't say that some girls are smarter because I have ALOT of dumbass girls in my class.. ALOT of dumb ass girls.

There are also a BUNCH of ripped girls out there that I've seen. Are you trying to be freakin' sexist or something or are you just trying to pick a fight? Look, I'm not saying I'm not biased but you can't just group "this set of people" and "this set of people" together. There are those who are strong and those who aren't. There are those who are smart and those who are dumb. That's just how life works. There's no "The girls are better..." or "The boys are better" and nothing.

And another thing, guys have no right to call girls wimps. Even though yeah, there are some girls who constantly whine and whine about how pregnancy is so hard, it's actually harder then it looks. Try going through every morning having to throw up or have something in your stomach trying to slive you open. It's not that easy.

As for what dare said about my rants, I'm not going to get into it. If you REALLY want to read it, I'll post the link but I don't think you guys wanna waste your time.

http://www.livejournal.com/users/sunfire249/2005/08/04/

Other than that I quit from this post. Permamently.

you posted the wrong link, hon.

[Sahiden]

I wonder why everyone is so angry or prejusticed about this topic...
It's just sad to see this kind of reactions after I posted the part I read in a newspapaer about some Italian research on the topic.
I keep to my view of equality and diversity.

New statement: In all of Humanity, every person is diffirent, so basically all of the parameters are diffirent for each person, this results in a high level of diversity between people, the gender of the person is completely out of the question. As diversity counts to the whole species of Humans.

Scientifically seen, there is no better gender. There are just people, and every person is diffirent. Cope with it, or become some utter narcist.