End of the world [Archive]

Livius

01-15-2007, 04:34 AM

Evanesque

01-15-2007, 05:45 AM

Well if you ask me, I believe in the end of the world with a more religious approach than scientific. I believe there is only one god and He will be the One to decide when the world will end.

According to my beliefs, the end will be announced by an angel who will blow a horn. A second after that there will be chaos and confusion, one of the signs of the world ending. Soon there will be another horn after which >poof< the world is over. It's all finished.

We don't know how it will end or when, only when god wishes, it shall be done...

AznPoi

01-15-2007, 06:01 AM

Vampyrelord

01-15-2007, 01:46 PM

Global warming FTW/FTL

The ozone will deplete and we will all die from skin cancer. The northern and southern icecaps will melt and will flood much of the world. There will only be a few spots of land what will be above water, therefore, forcing people to fight for higher land which means war.

This would be funny, if I was lying......

Global warming is real and if nothing is done then we're doom

Global warming and the holes in the ozone layer are completely seperate issues.

The damage to the ozone layer is caused when Chloroflourocarbonates (CFCs) from things like aresol cans and paint are released into the atmosphere. However, this problem has largely been solved, CFCs are very restricted know and the ozone layer is recovering.

Global warming is totally different. It's just the result of carbon gasses like methane and carbon dioxide forming a layer in the atmosphere. This layer allows heat in, but then traps lots of it, reflecting it back at the earth, warming it up.

Both are serious issues (though one has been resolved) but they have nothing to do with one another.

xiaoshawn

01-15-2007, 01:50 PM

yes, in i would agree with that, but i will still think that everything will go well peacefully(which is not happening) and the world ends when we run out of natural resources, but maybe at that time we have artificial stuff made x)

Kuro-Chan

01-15-2007, 01:57 PM

Basically,it depends which side you believe.whether its the religious side,or the scientific side..both sides has its reasons...the religious side will go something like the world will end when all humans are reborned or something...the scientific side would be because of global warming,depletion of ozone layer and the depletion of resources available on earth..

Kimochi

01-15-2007, 02:42 PM

different religion different beliefs.. uu cannot noe wad will happen when the world end.. if uu ask me theres no scientific way of explaining wadd will happen when the world end.. its just the cause such as global warming and so on..

Decado

01-15-2007, 02:53 PM

^ there is scientific evidence proving many theories, over the next billion etc years.

Firstly there's all of Earth's crap. ie/ global warming, human vs human = nuclear hole or just usage of resources: http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,750783,00.html
AI <.< cheh.. these are spec.. cept for a bit of global warming..and that article about usage.

K, there's the sun's life, which we all know will end, but that's not fer a while. When the sun goes, we'll go in the massive heat wave it emits before dying.
supernova's etc..
meteorites

There's teh Big Crunch Theory (all the universe's gravity will fall in on itself, tho that's the least likely theory), the Big Rip theory (http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/big_rip_030306.html
everything basically flies apart)

Black hole which is near the centre of our galaxy could devour us, but that's after all of the above could happen.
Countless ways, most of them involving the natural operating of the universe.

Livius

01-15-2007, 03:41 PM

The universe scares me now after watching that show knowing that there's a moving blackhole behind pluto that might someday turn towards us. Globalwarming is harsh being said that if we dont do anything now it will effect the next generations and thats messed up passing on the trouble. As for religious ways i know like the flooding....but its still possible to determine events right... Also they had the possibilty of a supervolcanoe which scares me too. Artificial Inteligence control humans is possible even Stephen Hawking said it might happen but maybe a few decades or even centuries from now.

II Xion II

01-15-2007, 04:58 PM

Seriously, it would actually be nice if the world ended from the result of a black hole, however, I do not think that it will be that complex. I think one of either two scenarios.

A.) A supervolcanic eruption could disintegrate an entire nation and the resulting environmental effects could spell doom for life (there would probably need to be more than one eruption within a short time of each other).

B.) A strike from a decently large asteroidal object.

Both are unlikely due to their rarity, but both have happened before, and they are much more probable than black holes and Cosmic Crunches. I do not think that we will destroy ourselves because I am not that much of a cynic, however, I also cannot rule that out as a possibility.

Arei

01-15-2007, 05:46 PM

I've heard tons of things about a supervolcano eruption, like the one in yellow stone. If such thing happened half of the US would be wiped out from either explosion or ash covering the sky and throw the entire world into nuclear winter for 10 years or so... it'd be almost cool if someone could survive that xD

I personally beleive in the judgement day, I don't beleive that are going to be any natural disasters that will completely wipe out the world. You have stuff like devestating hurricanes/earthquakes/tsunamis/tornados, epidemics, pandemics and other things that take a great number of human lives, but I don't think that the world is just gonna explode one day or we're all gonna be wiped out in a single swish, but personally thats just me.

And the sun is not going to die for another few billion years, when and if that happens before the world ended, then everyone would just freeze to death nearly instantly getting no more heat from the sun (or over a period of a day or 2, no idea xD)

The movie Armegeddon gave me nightmares for awhile, and I still do have wierd dreams about the end of the world being some catastrophic event, but I really do have a faith view towards the end of the world as the return of Christ and not The Day After Tomorrow :face82:

BrokenImage

01-15-2007, 05:57 PM

Well i dont think the end of the world is going to come anytime soon.

I do believe that another world war will start here shortly... and who the victor will be we cannot say. What we can say is that it would be very bad if america lost, the ying yang balance in this world would be completly thrown apart and evil would reign inevitably leading to the worlds downfall.

It was einstein that said. "I do not know what world war 3 will be faught with... but i do know that world war 4 will be faught with sticks and stones."

I believe the world is going to come to a standstill... and once everything does go kablooey there are going to be small resistances of people that are going to live and try to remake the world. Kind of like the judgement day from terminator movies.

It will happen, who knows when.

Habanero

01-15-2007, 07:34 PM

What we can say is that it would be very bad if america lost, the ying yang balance in this world would be completly thrown apart and evil would reign inevitably leading to the worlds downfall.

Yeah...right... :whatevah:

Excluding all the natural causes, I'd say the most potential candidate to bring out something that can't be undone is the United States at the moment...

But that isn't very likely in my opinion anyway. I think the most threatening event that is actually taking place unless something's done is the global warming. If we keep on sprouting CO2 the way we have for the last century, we're probably screwed pretty soon. Sad it's the money and not the fresh air that's running the globe at the moment... We already got one Venus in our solar system, I'd hate to see Earth turning into another one. I can tell ya, it ain't pretty...

That's pretty much the only one I'd really consider as a threat. The probability of some other event wiping out all life on earth is next to nothing really.

Que Sera Sera

01-15-2007, 08:14 PM

Christian Apocalypse : "It starts from opening the 7 seals. The breaking of the first fourth seals brings forth the 4 horsemen of the Apocalypse. Their names are War, Famine, Pestilence and Death. When the 5th seal was opened those killed for being true to God's word were dressed in white robes and were told to rest while a tally of those killed in Christ's service was made.

Then when the 6th seal was opened 'There was a violent earthquake; the Sun turned black as a funeral pall and the moon all red as blood;The stars fell to the earth; the sky vanished and every monutain and island was moved from it's place.

Seals were then attached to the foreheads of the 144,000 righteous. After that the 7th seal was broken and an angel ttook a censer, filled it from the fire on the golden altar set up before God's Throne and threw it down to earth, where there wasw 'peals of thunder, lightning and earthquake'"

Then it says stuff about trumpets and seas turning to blood and stuff(too long to write :P)

Guy

01-15-2007, 09:33 PM

Hmm... well, if you're religious, then judgment day. I believe the world will end with the probability of:

1. Religious ending. God comes and saves those who believe.

2. Nuclear war. It's bound to happen. Just look like countries like North Korea and Iran.

3. Global warming. Self-explanatory.

Mighty Aramir

01-16-2007, 12:53 AM

I dont know how or when, I dont really care about. Im an atheist, so when ill die ill just vanish into nothingness. And I dont mind it, I rather worry about how I live my life, how to make those who sorround me feel and be better. I just try to know that what I do, and what I live for is worth dying for,. Living like that makes the end of the world worthless.

Decado

01-16-2007, 02:24 AM

^ agreed, except bout the atheist part - however i'm not completely ignorant of any facts with a one-frame mind.

Living like that makes the end of the world worthless.
Living while knowing those things makes you believe in something far greater than our minuscule existence, thus feeling more worth, to live for.

neh, the greatest threat to the total destruction of the earth (not where every human dies and the Earth remains) would be the blackhole near pluto or the eventual life of the solar system / sun

Mighty Aramir

01-16-2007, 03:00 AM

yeah, the more universal chaotic kind of theory. That would be interesting but leads to the same. If a problem can be solved perfect but if it cant be solved, why bothering about it?

Decado

01-16-2007, 03:04 AM

lol, kinda off topic but i'll answer the question.

but if it cant be solved, why bothering about it?
That's quite general.... thousands of things can't be solved but are still attempted for so many reasons.
- it's enjoyable (to know about it, to be in awe of it, to learn about it, to challange your mind, to widen your horizons)
- to know it's greater than u
- that not everything in our existence can be proven allows for belief in other things, such as a miracle against all proof (even for small things, like a soccer match where ur team, however weak, tries to beat a far greater team with less men)

list goes on and on. =)

Arei

01-16-2007, 06:32 AM

... Aren't we already in WWIII? Or we're atleast at the dawn of it anyway xD

Guy

01-16-2007, 07:07 AM

Eh? WWIII? What is that? America and everybody else versus the terrorists?

Arei

01-16-2007, 07:34 AM

Delta

01-16-2007, 11:12 AM

Some people have regarded the "war on terror" to be the beginning of the next world war, which probably will consist of anti-terrorist countries/groups against terrorist nations/groups. Probably will get into it with N. Korea some time or another, and Iran if they keep pushing the wrong buttons.

The world is so annoying ~_~ this is all just one big holy war... *sigh* Though no "real" religion says to "go out and kill in the name of - *insert name here*", its the retarded followers who come up with that crap.

Ok this is getting a bit off topic O-o

A little offtopicness is fine in the debate, as long as it doesn't go for too long :winking56.

That said, it makes it difficult to convince people world peace is possible when they believe the the only path to world peace is --Insert your religion's apocalypse scenario here--. So people keep fighting because they think they don't have any other choice, or that at some point a supernatural event will occur to make it all better. I think world peace is possible, with or without any sort of divine intervention. If people would start treating each other with a little more respect I think it would go a long way. We have the ability to change our world, whether its for better or for worse is up to us. (My sig kinda gives away that being able to make my own choices is a big issue w/ me huh? :headbang)

Guy

01-17-2007, 01:49 AM

I disagree with delta. World Peace cannot be obtained. The failure of the Treaty of Versailles proved to us why wars cannot be stop. Not everyone agrees with your point of view, and there are cultural differences to stop us from doing so.

Delta

01-17-2007, 05:43 AM

Guy

01-17-2007, 05:56 AM

They are not at war, but war certainly is going on. You DID say world peace, right? Not just limited to European countries? Correct me if I cannot read.

Decado

01-17-2007, 06:07 AM

Just on this current issue I'm backing guyklc. No matter how much we like to believe it can happen, it cannot. World Peace will always be a dream.
You have to not just look at "people" and how they treat each other - look at their circumstances. People don't always choose to go to fight with each other..whether it be a full scale war or a small argument. Sometimes it is necessary for the person, or the nation to survive.
Look over history.

Only through war have countries advanced, America a prime example, from the Cold War...etc

however, turning back to the topic, i highly doubt it will be humans & war on earth which decide the destruction of the world.

Guy

01-17-2007, 06:50 AM

Just on this current issue I'm backing guyklc.

What? You mean you'd doubt me otherwise? lol, j/k.

No matter how much we like to believe it can happen, it cannot. World Peace will always be a dream.
You have to not just look at "people" and how they treat each other - look at their circumstances. People don't always choose to go to fight with each other..whether it be a full scale war or a small argument. Sometimes it is necessary for the person, or the nation to survive.
Look over history.

yeah, WWI basically proved that peace cannot last forever, the so called "war to end all wars".

however, turning back to the topic, i highly doubt it will be humans & war on earth which decide the destruction of the world.

Well, maybe, maybe not. If a nuclear war erupts, then it can be possible. Global warming can also be a probability. However, next to nuclear destruction, I think unsustainable practices will ulimately lead to starvation, famine, and desertification, which will end mankind.

Delta

01-17-2007, 10:12 AM

They are not at war, but war certainly is going on. You DID say world peace, right? Not just limited to European countries? Correct me if I cannot read.

Correct me if I can't read, but you did just use a treaty signed by a limited number of European countries to explain why world peace for the whole world wont work. I was just pointing out that even though the Treaty of Versailles did fail, none of those countries are fighting each other now.

Anywho back on topic now. Humanity can't keep growing at the pace it is now. Unless there are major innovations in science that give us access to more resources (space for example). Energy is another issue, with the decline of oil reserves and the demand growing daily we're going to need large amounts of energy soon. If these things dont happen we'll start doing the same thing we've done throughout history whenever there was a dispute about the distribution of resources, start killing each other.

Guy

01-18-2007, 12:51 AM

Correct me if I can't read, but you did just use a treaty signed by a limited number of European countries to explain why world peace for the whole world wont work. I was just pointing out that even though the Treaty of Versailles did fail, none of those countries are fighting each other now.

What we were debating before was WORLD peace, and correct me if my history sucks, but WWI was considered the "war to end all wars", right?

Anywho back on topic now. Humanity can't keep growing at the pace it is now. Unless there are major innovations in science that give us access to more resources (space for example). Energy is another issue, with the decline of oil reserves and the demand growing daily we're going to need large amounts of energy soon. If these things dont happen we'll start doing the same thing we've done throughout history whenever there was a dispute about the distribution of resources, start killing each other.

Yeah, which is why I believe world peace is idealistic.

Delta

01-18-2007, 01:43 PM

What we were debating before was WORLD peace, and correct me if my history sucks, but WWI was considered the "war to end all wars", right?

Mby some people at the time considered it that, I dont anyone now does, there was a world war 2 afterall. What are you getting at anyway?

Yeah, which is why I believe world peace is idealistic.

What's wrong with being a little idealistic, sure world peace may never be acheieved totally, but shouldn't we try?

Lady Ushio

01-18-2007, 03:37 PM

Pretty sure ive seen this before but i cant find it. If it hasnt been done it should have. Basicly..

What do you think will happen when the world ends?
How will it end?
What would you do if you knew the exact time? why?

Im watching Last Days on Earth on the History channel its like the 3rd time ive seen it and it makes me think. Its a countdown of the to 10 scienentific ways the world could end. It has black holes, Nuclear war, biological warfare, Ai, so im just wondering what everyone thinks. Personally i would be with my family in the last moments. And from thos scientic reasons from the list i say super volcanoes or biological warfare is how.

Honestly, nobody will ever know when the world ends. I've read some details in the newspapers and I've heard rumors about the exact day of the end of the world. But, it didn't happened because it wasn't accurate at all. Only God knows when the world ends.

The question on how it will end...hmmm...I think we are responsible on how our world will want to end. We experience global warming (as an example) these days because many of us (i'm talking about people in general) aren't concerned on how to take care of our natural environment. Another scenarios will be poverty, poor health, wars...etc...etc...etc...Many calamities like those happen all around us especially now...

I think that if our world is peaceful, healthy and safe, then the world will never end. It's just that plain simple. But realistically, the world will end few years from now...We just don't know...do we?

Guy

01-19-2007, 12:53 AM

Mby some people at the time considered it that, I dont anyone now does, there was a world war 2 afterall. What are you getting at anyway?

The people of that time certainly believed that, especially America. That's why America got involved: they believed that the Great War will end all wars.

What's wrong with being a little idealistic, sure world peace may never be acheieved totally, but shouldn't we try?

Hey, I want world peace too. But this is reality. It just ain't gonna happen.

I think that if our world is peaceful, healthy and safe, then the world will never end. It's just that plain simple.

Nope, sadly, the world will still end if that were the case. The second law of thermodynamics in physics says that chaos and disorder will continue to thrive. Soon, all of the world's energy will turn to irreversible useless heat. That is ultimately how the world will end.

M-50

01-19-2007, 12:24 PM

Here is one way that the most cleverst persons in the world think the way will end.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/connected/main.jhtml?xml=/connected/2007/01/18/nclock18.xml
I personally have an inclined opinion that nuclear weapons or global warming will result in the end of the world as we know it and the extinction of humans as a species.

pero_renji!

02-02-2007, 11:31 PM

I am not afraid of the end of the world, when it will happen, maybe aliens are going to come and save us ^^, but im not afraid of dying as a result of "the end of the world" cause it will be equal for everyone and it is i think the most "fair" way to die :D.

thousand sakuras

02-03-2007, 12:49 AM

i believe that the end of the world will come. (hopefuly not in my time) just as the book of revelations say. but it doesnt mean that other things could contribute or bring the end of the world. like global warming and massive nuclear wars.

Livius

02-03-2007, 01:29 AM

wow my thread died then came back to life....
anyway of course you shouldn't be afraid to die it happens every second...but i dont want to die with the world...but it wouldnt be fair cuz what if a baby is born the an hour later *BOOM* the world ends... what was the reason for that

Alerane

02-03-2007, 01:49 AM

It really depends on if by world ends you mean the human race is dead, planet is destoryed by nuclear war or the religious arrmagedon(sp?). I personally think we should all try to do our best to take care of our world while its here regardless, and when it happens it happens, whether we caused it or not.