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Houdenji
01-23-2007, 03:27 AM
Chapter 224 page 15, Kisuke states his Bankai is not the kind of bankai that could be used for training. Any thoughts on what it might do?
Given the nature of Benihime (Crimson Princess) we know that her powers seem to be blood based. In literature blood normally symbolizes life, death, and/or self-sacrifice. Also in the little bit we have seen she has both offensive and defensive abilities. It may be important to note the activation words already used; "awake" and "cry".
Simply acknowledging Kisuke's Bankai in the series implies that it will be used at one point or another down the road. I know being the main protagonist's teacher in a manga means we will probably only get one REAL fight out of him (Yammy doesn't count). I'm hoping its a good long one.
My guess is that his bankai (and shikai for that matter) is a double-edged sword. It embodies Kisuke's character and history. Urahara created the Hogyoku and it obviously came back to bite him. He awakens Ichigo's powers in a way which required killing him first. Everything he has done thus far in the series has always been more than it seemed. If they ever expand on his past more, I bet we will see this double-edgedness result in a change of personality resulting in his current temperment.
His bankai probably has either no solid physical form, or attacks in such a way that completely cripples the victim. His bankai is almost undoubtibly something which will leave Kisuke very drained and possibly injured and isn't designed for long-term usage. Benihime ends things before the fight can drag out. Benihime's Bankai form most likely WON'T be a personal enhancement type like Ichigo or Hitsugaya's because it is a woman. Why does that matter? I don't know, but I think it will be something separate from Kisuke's body. Perhaps everytime Benihime is awakened to Bankai, someone HAS to die otherwise it consumes Urahara... that would be interesting and fitting such a powerful character.
Anyway, so those are my thoughts and way too assumptuous analysis of Kisuke and Benihime. Anyone else have any ideas?
DFlux
01-23-2007, 06:09 AM
I don't know about killing/draining Kisuke, but I bet you're right that the bankai is a quick-finish type, perhaps something only the likes of Aizen could ever survive. That would be why he didn't train Chad.
I have a suggestion as to what the cheat ability might be. We know Benehime is the blood princess, and she uses a blood mist. If, as you've suggested, it drains Kisuke, it may mean that the sheer attack power of his Bankai rips the blood from his body. OR it might just be dangerous to try to train someone in it because, as this is a mist we're talking about, it may ruin every vessel in his enemies body, making it literally spray forth in a mist. That would be pretty deadly, I'd think.
I agree that we'll get to see it. It's not a matter of if but when and with whom. I have a feeling his Bankai, along with Ichimaru's and Aizen's will be one of those giant, epic types where you know there's just little hope of escape (like the Senkei from Byakuya, or Tousen's Bankai), and it'll look awesome drawn. It'll probably be something gorgeous, and I really can't wait to see it.
xiaoshawn
01-23-2007, 01:47 PM
nice suggestions you have there. but the time where urahara releases his bankai will be far ahead, perhaps 100-200 chapters more x) perhaps i am wrong, but this is how i see it
Shinji
01-23-2007, 03:41 PM
It has the power to annihilate the entire Bleachverse. That's why you can't train with it, you'll get owned pretty hard.
deibyz
01-23-2007, 04:04 PM
As Benihime is a blood based Zampaktou (I think I'll never spell it ok), her bankai/shikai may be related with mythological sword that need to drain a life once released, maybe a reference to famous Muramasa's swords ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muramasa ), and thus it's not very recomendable for training. Anyway, I hope we'll se soon, maybe against one of the espadas in a real combat?
Houdenji
01-23-2007, 09:46 PM
It has the power to annihilate the entire Bleachverse. That's why you can't train with it, you'll get owned pretty hard.
Sadly they can't show it to us because it's likely that it not only will the manga reader go into a coma, but also their grandmother will fall and break a hip and simultaneously all bank accounts of the people who are friends with the immediate friends of the manga reader will be reduced to a 0 balance, and some poor kid in russia will step on a slug and feel the ooze for the rest of the day.
Yvese
01-24-2007, 04:06 AM
Chances are we will see Urahara fight seriously when the winter war starts, or when Ichigo finally reaches Aizen ( If that's where the arc is going ). There's just something about him that makes me tingle inside when speculating his power, and there's also a part of me that thinks Urahara is going to sacrifice himself towards the end of Bleach. I base this on when Ichigo and co finally leave SS and they're on the carpet and Yoruichi says something along the lines "It looks like we'll die a painful death", and Urahara says "It can't be helped". Those aren't the exact words but it's close. Yea it's silly to use those two sentences to predict the future, but hey, speculation is speculation and that's what I think will happen.
DFlux
01-24-2007, 06:15 AM
Yvese, I think we're going to see a loss of many of the old standards for good guy material. Urahara, Yoruichi, the older captains, perhaps. Urahara I think for sure... he'll probably do anything at this point to destroy Hougyoku, even if it means death.
I wonder if he'll actually fight Aizen at some point. I really do see that happening, but because of his massively insanely cool bankai (as I suspect it will be) he will not necessarily "defeat" Aizen, but not be defeated himself. Maybe he'll buy time for the real finisher to show up and then run off to destroy Hougyoku.
Yoruichi was right. They will not have simple deaths.
Mobius
01-24-2007, 07:33 AM
all this talk of his bankai cursing and drawing blood is reminding me of Hidan:D
imagine that urahara says bankai, and his sword turns into a scythe like hidans and has similar abilities :P.
back o the point, i think it may be a onehit KO sort of bankai, cause hesaid you cant train with it
Yvese
01-24-2007, 01:05 PM
Well, as long as we know it's nothing like any of the bankai's we've seen, then it most likely is something like that. One-hit KO Bankai.. talk about cheap lol.
HeroSol
01-25-2007, 06:12 AM
good theory.
end the end urahara is one of the people i think in the end will die.
so to me it seems logical and plausible
It's probably something that operates with its own will outside of his control. He did say it was different then the other's swords. He may control it to a point but not entirely given that its his resolve so he only uses when he wants to annihilate the enemies.
Zangetsu-
06-08-2008, 05:06 PM
what if his bankai needs his blood to be used and the longer it's used the closer he comes to dieing but the stronger his sword gets therefore he has the option of him becoming weaker but his sword getting stronger that way he can finish the fight quicker or he can the finish the fight slowly but risk loseing blood from his opponents attacks and beniheme's bankai form.
That... makes absolutely no sense... that would mean his sword is potentially stronger then he is, and since its all his power it would contradict itself. Like people who say sky is faster then byakuya when byakuya's power is sky how can it be faster if its all him?
sonflour_@))!
06-12-2008, 03:38 AM
I think I mentioned this elsewhere but I think Kisuke's bankai has something to do with reflective powers such as the ones he used when he sent a Cero like beam back to the Arrancar he was fighting in earlier chapters.
We already know it's something to do with blood. Blood is a liquid. Liquids have reflective powers. Maybe Kisuke can pull a Bishop from x-men and reflect attacks back at enemies...along with other liquid properties. Liquid can mimic form/kinda similar to reflective properties.
meh, who knows with Kisuke...
Ganshou-dono
06-18-2008, 12:07 AM
I think it will be something like one ultra strong mega attack that will totaly crush the opponent...something like saber's noble phantasm in fate/stay night anime
Sandal Hat
06-19-2008, 04:58 AM
Urahara pulls a giant rabid vampire super sayain rabbit out of his hat with a power level over 9000!
thirsty
06-20-2008, 06:53 AM
his bankai will probably transform his sword again and raise his reitsu and give him additional moves with his zanpakuto lol.
Character
06-26-2008, 10:08 PM
his bankai will probably transform his sword again and raise his reitsu and give him additional moves with his zanpakuto lol.
Do I sense sarcasm as that is what all Bankai do? I'm going to go ahead and say you were being sarcastic here. lol
setasujiro
06-28-2008, 09:59 AM
Well, maybe his bankai is a total powerful offensive-type.. That's why he can't use it for training someone because its too powerful he can't even control it. On the physical form of his bankai, its upto TK bout that, he sure does loves pulling out surprises..:biggrinki
My spam and one-liner sense is tingling!
Seeing as how this thread will only contain more spam and we have no hints to what his Bankai actually is or could be (aside from the line that it's not a Bankai used for training) this thread has far outlived its usefulness!
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