View Full Version : Super Ishida Vs Hollow Ichigo
Lirion
01-25-2007, 09:42 PM
I'm not a big fan of starting new threads but I would find this fight pretty interesting. If you don't know what I mean by Super Ishida it's when he takes of his glove when fighting Mayuri.
And if this fight have been posted before or the mods find this fight to be like Aizen vs Kon then I apologies and by all means lock it.
EndlessSky
01-25-2007, 09:47 PM
Defintely Hollow Ichigo, no doubt about it. Ishida would eventually lose his power as well.
Now if he was at the level he is currently in the manga, I think it would be a different story. I don't think ogichi would be at a disadvantage though.
Momentum
01-26-2007, 03:03 AM
Super Ishida vs Hollow Ichigo? Ishida will keep firing while Hollow Ichigo will just keep dodging because we all know that Hollow Ichigo IS fast...by the time you know it Hollow Ichigo will be like behind uhh lol Super Ishida and slice him to pieces because I don't think that Super Ishida won't be fast enough to dodge. Hollow Ichigo wins...
Jay3205
01-26-2007, 03:17 AM
I'd have to say Hollow Ichigo is fast. Even with Super Ishida's speed, he wouldn't be able to keep distance from the Hollow form of Ichigo. Up close, Ishida doesn't have any defense against swords.
I'd have to go with Hollow Ichigo, too. Although Ishida is fast when in "super" form, Ichigo's bankai IS speed, which is increased even more by his hollow powers, thus he is much faster than Ishida. So, he'd probably be able to close the gap pretty quick, and then Ishida would be at a disadvantage; due to the nature of his attacks (ranged), close range combat would be bad for Ishida (I would think). So, by keeping it close with super speed and agility, I believe Hollow Ichigo wins it.
*edit* I just realized I said the exact same thing as Jay..just a little elaborated...my bad. So I'll add a bit more: Hollow Ichigo also would not hold back (he's crazy), and when the enemy is reckless it adds a new element of danger for their opponent.
Pretty hard battle. At highest level both of them are amazing. Ishida 1hkos a bankai. Ichigo totally owns a espada. Ill say ichigo, still. He's, after all the protagonist.
It'll be really fun to see a battle between the two tho.
ginjixx
01-31-2007, 09:25 AM
I'd also go for the holow ichigo because ishida has a imitation of his power unlike the hollow of ichigo who keeps stronger and stronger... but i think in terms of speed they maybe just equal but ishida wont last long....
Draco
01-31-2007, 11:24 PM
lets see super ishida would put up a good fight but hollow ichigo would do to ishida what he did to byakuya. in other words hollow ichigo wins
dragado123
02-01-2007, 02:22 AM
Hollow Ichigo because when it comes to speed i mean come on now Ichigo would win easily because his bankai is mainly speed which means in a race or something he would win. And lets not forget that his hollow form is almost nearly uncontrollable, seriously man not just any1 is able to stop him or better yet control him. Also Ishida's from might be very strong but it does have a time limit so yeah Hollow Ichigo pwns Super ishida any time.
Pfft, Ichigo would win NO problem. Geez, I don't think it would even be a battle. Ishida's has brains and pretty mentionable powers but...that definitely wouldn't be enough to beat hollow Ichigo.
Sinist3r
02-02-2007, 02:27 AM
ichigo because ishida would not be able to maintain his powers for long... and ichigo is prob as fast if not faster
nouscomd
02-08-2007, 02:53 PM
Hollow Ichigo is so crazy.. so the winner-kun is ichigo :D
Lirion
02-10-2007, 09:45 PM
I have a hard time beliving that Hollow Ichigo would pwn super Ishida.
He was faster than his own arrow when fighting Mayuri and he did destroy his bankai with one shot and he could have killed Mayuri with that shot to if he wanted. Ishida can also use those spirit things to move bodyparts that are injuerd and can not be moved by himself.
But I guess Hollow-kun would win in the end because I don't want people to flame me. :p
Jay3205
02-11-2007, 01:04 AM
Ishida passing his own arrow shows he's fast, but it's not on the level of bankai Ichigo appearing multiple places at once. His bankai destroying arrows would have a very hard time hitting Ichigo at a range. Up close, Ishida doesn't have a defense against a skilled sword fighter like Ichigo, and losing an arm/leg/half his body would not be very fixable via spirit threads.
I'd say Ogichi. Ogichi is freakishly fast, and in addition, Ishida's at a huge disadvantage because he sucks at hand-to-hand combats. With Ogichi's speed, the distance between the two will quickly be closed, leaving Ishida practically powerless.
L'Arc Enzeru
02-11-2007, 06:56 AM
Ogichi will wins, coz' he's faster and stronger especially when he use Ban Kai,... Bye Super Ishida.
koolspot
02-14-2007, 08:48 PM
Just two words: Hollow Ichigo
Honjo
02-14-2007, 09:06 PM
I'm not so certain either way, while hollow ichigo has incredible speed, super ishida was able to take down a captain and his bankai with a single shot, something that so far, nobody other then aizen has been able to do, though ishida looked fairly drained after the attack, in short if ishida could land a blow of that power on anyone I think they would be in trouble, then again its a big if.
koolspot
02-14-2007, 09:26 PM
I think the factor here is H.I. Speed, but if ishida hits him is a death man... oops i meant hollow... eh.. shinigami, whatever...
.Socio
02-14-2007, 09:41 PM
I think it could go either way, if Ichigo goes hollow, Ogichi, then he can destroy peoples bankai, but so did Ishida's super bow, but if I had to pick, I'd say Hollow Ichigo
Honjo
02-14-2007, 09:46 PM
It seems to me that while Hollow ichigo is a force to be reckoned with, I still can't see him taking down any of the current captains in a single attack, though such an argument is pointless as Ishida being able to fire an attack more powerful than anyone else doesn't necessarily mean he could win.
koolspot
02-14-2007, 10:01 PM
The big IF. Somebody thinks that if ishida hits ichigo can beat him?
Honjo
02-14-2007, 11:01 PM
I dont think there's anybody in the entire bleach universe that could survive a direct hit from super ishida personally, I mean even if there was somebody who had a strong enough defense to survive obliteration, I highly doubt they would go by unscathed, not that I'm saying he can't be beat, just that any technique that require's one to lose all their ability's must be formidable, I mean lets be honest, can anyone really see hollow ichigo just giving one swing of his sword and a captain lays dead?
Jay3205
02-14-2007, 11:24 PM
Well, Mayuri has survived a direct hit from super Ishida. Ishida's normal shots are not powerful enough to kill captain level people unless he charges them. Considering how fast Ichigo is, he's unlikely to be hit by such an attack.
Honjo
02-15-2007, 12:15 AM
Though Mayuri survived the attack, his vc did thank Ishida for not aiming for his head as it would have killed him, and to say whether super ishida could beat ichigo is pointless, as we only saw super ishida for a few seconds before mayuri was beat, personally, from the information we have now, I would say it's a 50-50, super ishida seems to outpower hollow ichigo by a significant margin, but Hollow ichigo is probably much faster, so its really a hit and miss type situation.
Jack Daniels
02-15-2007, 02:11 AM
Ichigo easy Ishada is good and all but he could never keep up with even Icgigo's speed, pluse in Hollow form dear good. Hands down Hollow Ichigo
Momentum
02-15-2007, 03:16 AM
Don't forget Ogichi has that Black Getsuga Tenshou. I also think some people here are not thinking about Super Ishida in close combat against Ogichi...
ginjixx
02-15-2007, 08:48 AM
yeah i think hollow ichigo would definiteny win without a doubt..... its just that hollow ichigo's fighting style is of a scramble type..... even byakuya's senbonsakura cant even catch up...... another thing is for the technique of ichigo which is the getsuga tenshou.... which can destroy a large area......
Momentum
02-16-2007, 03:30 AM
yeah i think hollow ichigo would definiteny win without a doubt..... its just that hollow ichigo's fighting style is of a scramble type..... even byakuya's senbonsakura cant even catch up...... another thing is for the technique of ichigo which is the getsuga tenshou.... which can destroy a large area......
Exactly people are forgetting that...
DireCry
02-18-2007, 03:19 PM
Hollow Ichigo without a doubt. Ishida would be at a disadvantage if he got close to him.
Zorokai
02-23-2007, 02:53 PM
hands down hollow ichigo lol hes insane!
uraharakisuke153
02-24-2007, 02:49 AM
Hollow Ichigo. He's crazy strong. Byakuya is probably the strongest captain.(Yes I think he could take Yamamoto) and he had no hope vs Hollow Ichigo (who wasn't trying) ^_^
Hiyuu Tatsuma
02-26-2007, 03:41 PM
Hollow Ichigo he is much faster and had has more power
pero_renji!
02-26-2007, 05:18 PM
But you know, Hollow ichigo didnt really do anything serious to Byakuya, and he did it after a grueling battle. Ishida eliminated a captain WITH 1 ARROW!
I dont think the power gap between Mayuri and Byakuya is so big..Mayuri has a sick zanpakuto, and Byakuya has no counter poison.
I think hollow Ichigo would win but not hands down cause you have to admit destroying a captain in one blow isnt that easy.
Hiyuu Tatsuma
02-27-2007, 02:38 PM
But you know, Hollow ichigo didn't really do anything serious to Byakuya, and he did it after a grueling battle. Ishida eliminated a captain WITH 1 ARROW!
I don't think the power gap between Mayuri and Byakuya is so big..Mayuri has a sick zanpakuto, and Byakuya has no counter poison.
I think hollow Ichigo would win but not hands down cause you have to admit destroying a captain in one blow isnt that easy.
ya but Ishida lost his power after that and Byakuya is a lot stronger than Mayuri
and the hollow was just playing around and ichigo was trying gain control back
hmm probably hollow ichigo win,he is fast and i bet ishida arrow cant touch him
sham16
03-04-2007, 11:55 AM
I think with just bankai ichigo both him and ishida would be almost at par at speed... Maybe a little more with Ishida... But if you say Hollow ichigo... cant sa there would be any contest at all..
Thnk of it this way... an archer versus a swordsman in a clossrange combat... (I said closerange since Ichigo would be way faster than Ishida....) The archer would not have a knife or a sword... But the enemy would have a samurai.... you decide who will win..
well lets put it basically
If i didnt read wrongly, ishida's new powers are above his released form powers. If he got owned that badly by the 5th tres cifras, he stands no chance against hichigo who finished off 3rd tres cifras in one hit.
T_Ichigo
03-13-2007, 01:51 PM
Hollow Ichigo would win, do I need to argue ? hehe
master_handags
03-14-2007, 12:43 AM
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speed,strenght,reitsu,and all stat...hollow ichgo beat everysingle one of it with ishida...ishida have no chance at all when facing hollow ichigo
Yeah, Ishida is screwed once Ichigo is in close combat. If it's distance wise, I think Getsuga Tenshou is strong enough to conquer Ishida.
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