yumichika vs renji [Archive]

ginjixx

01-27-2007, 02:47 AM

i think this would be tough with renji who have a bankai but i would go to yumichika who has ha zanpakuto who sucks reiatsu... ehhehehehe who will you vote for???

lovehouse.MOON

01-27-2007, 03:25 AM

Yumichika, even aside from the fact that he is one of my favorite.
His zanpakuto's power leech ability added to the fact that after Renji uses Bankai he is completly drained because he's not good at controlling it yet.
It would be an easy win for Yumichika imo.

KeitaroAZN™

01-27-2007, 05:29 AM

Hmmm.... needs to be in Bleach battles but it would seem that Renji would have a better chance of winning.... Yumichika gets to distracted by looks and "Beautifulness" but his zanpakuto does have the ability to absorb Reiatsu.... Renji would win in a quick battle but one that lasted for awhile would give Yumichika the upper hand

sham16

01-31-2007, 03:12 PM

Omg Yumichika... Thats a very odd shinigami... and one of the most interesting if I may add.. So for me I chose Yumichika since he has that leeching ability so even if Renji woould be going into Bankai he would still have trouble with Yumichika Leeching away his reitsu.

jonat3

01-31-2007, 03:31 PM

While Yumichika has a nasty ability, most of the time these type of abilities have a limit. In other words, i think it likely that there's a limit to how much he can absorb. I think Renji takes it.

Jay3205

01-31-2007, 05:12 PM

Renji would probably take it. After all, he only has shikai, and I don't think he could absorb enough reiatsu to beat someone 5-10x his reiatsu. Besides, he'd have figure out a way to get close enough to Renji's bankai to absorb and also manage to prevent the bankai from smashing him while he's absorbing the power.

vejitto3

01-31-2007, 08:46 PM

renji by default wins because he bankai and we all know bankai>shikai when it comes to power:whatevah:

dragado123

02-01-2007, 03:50 AM

Yumichika for the win :) I mean look at the fact. Even though Renji does have bankai and Yumichika doesn't, does not mean anything by fact. Renji hasn't even fully mastered his bankai yet so yea plus he has it only for like a couple of months. That's not really that good to master it. And plus Yumichika can drain a persons reiatsu so yeah. Once yumichika has fully drained all of Renji's power then Yumichika win :)

jonat3

02-01-2007, 04:56 AM

SHiKaMaRi

02-01-2007, 05:19 AM

Yumichika.

Why? The abilities of his Shikai would be able to drain Renji's reiatsu.

@renji_kurosaki: It's true that Yumichika gets easily distracted with the 'beautiful' issue, however, that also means that if Renji wounds him, even if it's just a little scratch, Yumichika would get pissed off.

Seilin

02-01-2007, 05:32 AM

I think Yumichika would win, not only because he can drain Renji's reiatsu, but also because Renji is not that good at controlling his bankai yet. Even though he have bankai, he can't really use it effectively yet.

Jay3205

02-01-2007, 05:39 AM

jonat3

02-01-2007, 06:57 AM

Yeah, no matter how good the ability sounds, it's still a shikai. A shikai can only beat a bankai if the user posseses superior reiatsu. And Renji has far more reiatsu than Yumichika. A VC level person beating a captain level person is laughable and shouldn't even be seriously considered.

Draco

02-02-2007, 02:33 AM

Yumichika 'cause his shikai is nothin but a leech

jonat3

02-02-2007, 02:45 AM

If Yumichika is stronger than renji, than he's also stronger than Ikkaku. Heck Zaraki should be no match for Yumichika, since superior reiatsu seems irrelevant to a leeching ability.

SHiKaMaRi

02-02-2007, 10:55 AM

sham16

02-02-2007, 11:17 AM

If Yumichika is stronger than renji, than he's also stronger than Ikkaku. Heck Zaraki should be no match for Yumichika, since superior reiatsu seems irrelevant to a leeching ability.

Dont get me wrong but do you think comparing Zaraki's Reitsu against Renji is a bit off line.. I mean look at it.... As for the Bankai Shikai thing. I really think that having Bankai is all that good if you still haven't mastered it. Even Byakuya said this. And also if you are saying that Yumichika could not take on a Vice captain take a look at some of the episodes you can see Yumichika taking out a vice captain without any scratch and he can still be narcisistic about himself. So Saying that He is not as strong as a vice captain is underminding Yumichika remember that in Zaraki's squad ever seat has a higher rank. :headbang

jonat3

02-02-2007, 06:31 PM

Spoiler for manga.. Clickie?

Ikkaku was the one that taught Renji bankai, and trained Renji, etc... Said so in the manga. Which is why I'm gonna disagree with you and say that Renji is not stronger than Ikkaku.

I didn't say that Renji was stronger than Ikkaku. However, i do think their strengths are very close to each other, which is why i brought up Ikkaku. As for Ikkaku teaching Renji bankai, that was a mistranslation. What was meant was that Ikkaku told Renji and Yumichika that he had already learned bankai.

Dont get me wrong but do you think comparing Zaraki's Reitsu against Renji is a bit off line.. I mean look at it.... As for the Bankai Shikai thing. I really think that having Bankai is all that good if you still haven't mastered it. Even Byakuya said this. And also if you are saying that Yumichika could not take on a Vice captain take a look at some of the episodes you can see Yumichika taking out a vice captain without any scratch and he can still be narcisistic about himself. So Saying that He is not as strong as a vice captain is underminding Yumichika remember that in Zaraki's squad ever seat has a higher rank. :headbang

I think you guys have the replies mixed up. I never stated that Yumichika wasn't VC level. As a matter of fact, i'm saying a VC level like Yumichika can't hope to compete with a captain level like Renji. A shikai can't beat a bankai, unless the user has considerably more reiatsu. No matter how cheap the ability is.

As for what Byakuya said, it was only about control. Renji still gets the 5-10 times powerboost. So regardless if Renji can't control his bankai, he's still alot stronger when using it.

Jay3205

02-02-2007, 07:16 PM

It's hard to say if Yumichika is even high VC level. After all, it seems like he won because his opponent didn't know Yumichika could drain reiatsu.

Byakuya probably would've lost to Renji's bankai if he couldn't use powerful kidou in addition to his fast shunpo (assuming Byakuya did not use his bankai). Yumichika is slower, weaker, and certainly doesn't use captain level kidou. His shikai has the reach of his normal sword approximately. Renji's bankai is much larger. It seems Yumichika only won against a VC because he had the surprise element about his shikai's ability. If you say Yumichika can beat Renji, I suppose he can also somehow beat bankai Hitsugaya, which most people would definitely disagree with.

pero_renji!

02-02-2007, 11:41 PM

Yumichika's ability cant absorb as much power as a bankai (i mean c'mon hes not even at VC level), i think renji oculd win this one without even using his bankai by simply outranging him with zabimaru.

Guy

02-04-2007, 01:25 AM

Yumichika isn't even a vice captain. If his leeching zanpakutou is so strong, then heck, he should be the strongest shinigami alive. Renji's bankai will murder him. Yumichika couldn't even defeat Ganju; he had to chase him around the whole Soul Society before getting blown up.

ginjixx

02-05-2007, 05:29 AM

How will Yumichika hit Renji to even use his shikai? Renji has huge range compared to Yumichika. Yumichika hasn't really shown even VC level fighting capabilities. He revealed shikai, and somehow that allows him to make up a 10x power difference? Why couldn't shikai Ichigo beat bankai Byakuya then?

i think you got it all wrong because yumichika beat one of a vc easily.... you remember in the ep that ichigo went to save rukia??? and i think yumichika is also a vc level....

Guy

02-05-2007, 05:30 AM

And Renji is about taichou level... taichou>vc

Lust

02-05-2007, 12:55 PM

hmm it is indeed a hard to decide who will win...but without reitsu i dont think a shinigami can do a thing so this match yumichika win..

nouscomd

02-08-2007, 02:50 PM

ı am not sure but I think Abarai Renji..

.Socio

02-12-2007, 03:30 PM

I think Renji will win, Yumichika is good, he is vc level and can absorb reiatsu, but Renji is Captain level, he knows Bankai and could destroy yumichika from far away or close up, people underestimate Renji, he is very powerful.

Jay3205

02-13-2007, 02:45 AM

i think you got it all wrong because yumichika beat one of a vc easily.... you remember in the ep that ichigo went to save rukia??? and i think yumichika is also a vc level....

Well, it appears he won because he had the advantage of surprise, which would go really far considering his zanpakutou's ability.

For all these people saying he'll just drain Renji's bankai, please give me a reason to believe that Yumichika will somehow be able to get close enough to Renji to drain him. Please show me some evidence that Yumichika can somehow stop Renji's huge bone snake bankai from crushing him while trying to drain it. Explain how he can somehow drain 10x more reiatsu than he posseses while defending against a low captain level opponent?

Points for Renji
1) He can shunpo
2) He has bankai, thus the giant reiatsu increase to go with it
3) His bankai has huge range and power; several hundred feet of range
4) He has taken on opponents at captain level and survived or won
5) He is a VC who was deemed "too dangerous" by Aizen

Points for Yumichika
1) He can drain reiatsu
2) He defeated a VC (who is weaker than Renji) using the element of surprise
3) He could not catch Ganju...
4) He can not shunpo, can't use bankai, and has about 5.5 feet of reach

Personally, the Renji list looks better than the Yumichika list. Yumichika has not a single thing going for him except "reiatsu draining" which probably isn't effective against a giant bone snake being controlled by a captain level shinigami.

Kyouka Suigetsu

02-13-2007, 03:41 AM

Yumichika didn't even really win that battle. Hisagi was beating his ass. Hell, the guy didn't even have to release his zanpakutou and Mr. Metro was still on the verge of losing. He would've lost if it weren't for his cheap soul slayer.

There are some truly sick people on this board if anyone really believes Yumichika can beat Renji. All soul slayer abilites have limits. This has been stated multiple times in Bleach. Taking this into account, Yumichika's shikai can't absorb an unlimited amount of reiatsu. Renji's bankai wins this fight, not that he'd need it to kick his opponent's ass.