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dragado123
01-31-2007, 12:14 AM
Like the title say "Naruto's Father". This thread is to speculate who you actually think Naruto's father is.

The person who i actually think is Naruto's father is the 4th hokage, Yondaime. The reason why i think that he is Naruto's father is because when he sealed Kyuubi into Naruto he wanted the whole village to know of his existence. I mean why would the 4th hokage just seal Kyuubi into a random baby. That would actually be cruel of him. When i mean by everyone knowing Naruto's existence i'm talking bout everyone knowing him as a strong ninja and not just someone that posses Kyuubi. Yondaime probably knew that he would become a excellent ninja with the help of Kyuubi and all. That's my reason why the 4th might be Naruto's father

reaverofsouls05
01-31-2007, 12:17 AM
i actually agree with you and another reason you could be right which is the only point i can think of right now is the resemblance is very close they look alike and usually that happens when you are in the same family

Malice
01-31-2007, 12:37 AM
The person who i actually think is Naruto's father is the 4th hokage, Yondaime. The reason why i think that he is Naruto's father is because when he sealed Kyuubi into Naruto he wanted the whole village to know of his existence. I mean why would the 4th hokage just seal Kyuubi into a random baby. That would actually be cruel of him. When i mean by everyone knowing Naruto's existence i'm talking bout everyone knowing him as a strong ninja and not just someone that posses Kyuubi. Yondaime probably knew that he would become a excellent ninja with the help of Kyuubi and all. That's my reason why the 4th might be Naruto's father
I suspected the same thing that and the fact tha Naruto strongly resembles Yondaime.

♥ Tess
01-31-2007, 12:41 AM
hmm, i think i figured that out like 2 1/2 years ago.

still, you never know.
they might make a sudden plot twist...
kakashi may be naruto's father ;p

lol, though i highly doubt that

reaverofsouls05
01-31-2007, 12:49 AM
hmm, i think i figured that out like 2 1/2 years ago.

still, you never know.
they might make a sudden plot twist...
kakashi may be naruto's father ;p

lol, though i highly doubt that

as do i

Kabane
01-31-2007, 01:33 AM
My opinion is: Naruto has no father.

Unless much has changed since i read my last manga chapter (somewhere near 300) Im staying with the opinoin that Naruto has no father, well..i suppose he does...but we dont know of him.

People make the general assumption that Naruto's father is Yondaime because he looks like him and is almost always compared to him. What i say is Yondaime IS Naruto. From what we've been told, The Seal technique that Yondaime used is identical to the one Sandaime used on Orochimaru. The way the Seal Technique works is the user would take the soul of the target into himself, and destroy them both. Now, what if the target was an endlessly powerful spirit that was proclaimed to be immortal? In my opinion, it caused a strange reaction with the jutsu and resulted in Yondaime reverting to child form?

Wouldnt it make sense? Especially since Naruto wasnt shown to have a mother, which is biologically impossible.


rofl i hope there were no new revelations in the manga.

dragado123
01-31-2007, 02:58 AM
There are of course many rumors about Naruto and Yondaime. I just don't really believe in the fact that Yondaime is Naruto. It's weird you know if that really does happen. I still believe that Yondaime is Naruto's father because they are very similar but like now that i've given it some thought, he might not be because lets use Gai and Lee for example. There not actually related and all but they are very similar so yeah that's why you shouldn't just think about if there related or not by there looks. And here's more of the reason why i actually think that Yondaime is Naruto's father is because Jiraya has already teach Naruto 2 of Yondaime's technique. And also i've found this manga picture that has to do with Kakashi looking at Naruto's back and seeing the similarity between him and Yondaime on chapter 339. Here's the image: http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/4752/16190039946503ba2rq.jpg Yea this image was not edited by anyone Those are some more reasons why i think that Naruto is Yondaime son because of so much clues given to us from the manga and anime

reaverofsouls05
01-31-2007, 03:01 AM
There are of course many rumors about Naruto and Yondaime. I just don't really believe in the fact that Yondaime is Naruto. It's weird you know if that really does happen. I still believe that Yondaime is Naruto's father because they are very similar but like now that i've given it some thought, he might not be because lets use Gai and Lee for example. There not actually related and all but they are very similar so yeah that's why you shouldn't just think about if there related or not by there looks. And here's more of the reason why i actually think that Yondaime is Naruto's father is because Jiraya has already teach Naruto 2 of Yondaime's technique. And also i've found this manga picture that has to do with Kakashi looking at Naruto's back and seeing the similarity between him and Yondaime on chapter 339. Here's the image: http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/4752/16190039946503ba2rq.jpg Yea this image was not edited by anyone Those are some more reasons why i think that Naruto is Yondaime son because of so much clues given to us from the manga and anime
if you use Gai and Lee as an example Lee changes his look and ended up looking more like Gai but Naruto has never changed his look and has always looked like Yondaime

dragado123
01-31-2007, 03:07 AM
if you use Gai and Lee as an example Lee changes his look and ended up looking more like Gai but Naruto has never changed his look and has always looked like Yondaime

Well i'm actually talking about there hair style and looks not clothing. See even before Lee knew Gai he has always looked like Gai, not in clothing but in there looks. See Naruto and Yondaime don't really have the same clothing but they do have the same hair style and blue eyes. That's the main point of what i really mean.

Kabane
01-31-2007, 03:49 AM
Your points could support my claim as well, and i wont change my views until i see some evidence that Naruto had a mother.

Malice
01-31-2007, 10:44 AM
Here's a few theories. Please note these are just random thoughts. None of these are really proven, I'd be shocked if I was right of any of them:
Naruto's mother may of died giving birth to him and Yondaime did seal the Kyubi into him on purpose?
Naruto is the reincarnation of Yondaime.
Jirayia trained Naruto because he's really Naruto's grandfather.
Tsunade could also be distantly related to Sakura because there are genetic similarities.
Lee is Gai's son in reality.
I'll Give you more if I can think of any.

Insight
01-31-2007, 11:07 AM
i don't think sakura can be related to tsunade she just dosn't have the breasts.

anyway i don't understand why naruto had to have a really powerful father couldn't his father just have been a victim of the kyuubi and so the 4th thought it ironic that the kyuubi would help naruto with his chakara in return for killing naruto's parents.
i always thought that naruto was more the story that anyone can become strong if they work hard and that for naruto his family's history is unimportant- thats sauke's story.

Kuroi Getsuga Tenshou
01-31-2007, 12:38 PM
wait wait wait....Naruto can't be Yondaime. he just can't be him! because they said that Yondaime TOOK a newborn baby and sealed the Kyuubi within him The newborn existed BEFORE Yondaime sealed the Kyuubi in him so ho can you reincarnate yourself while your holding...yourself?!?? Don't you tell me he pulled an Orochimaru?? (*the baby*) the newborn later became known as Uzumaki Naruto. and there is something we all overlooked, this wasn't mentioned nowhere in neither the manga nor the Databook. you probably guessing what it is YES sometimes the words they use can also have clues of what we can expect for intance:

- they NEVER EVER said that the newborn baby Yondaime took was an INFANT (meaning he had no parents at that time ad thus why Yondaime took him) so it could mean either the parents agreed to do this wich is probably only Yondaime.

- when everyone IN the manga talks about Yondaime and from what we've seen is that he was someone who truly has the WILL OF FIRE he wouldn't even think twice to give his life FOR the village! he was always portrayed as someone who deeply cared for his entire village making him a almost flawless Hokage he treated everyone as equals and he wanted to protect EVERYONE!!!
Now doesn't Naruto say the same thing *I Wan't to Protect Everyone*?!??

- Now back to the newborn baby "Uzumaki Naruto"....there's is something I just DON'T understand, or better yet I can't understand it, and I won't accept it! with the Fourth...yeah Yondaime with him being the best ninja in Konohagakure and him being the role model to everyone and with his nice personality and everything he stands for.....I don't think he can take anybody's baby and seal a Bijuu in it!!!! Being a hokage I know you have to sometimes make certain sacrifices but when there's a baby involved you just crossed the line.....and you'll end up like Orochimaru. Yondaime is not someone who does thinks like that.....BUT if you would like to pass on the WILL Of FIRE to the one most precious to you and equip him with one of the deadliest weapons to help him do so then who would that be?!????

- We didn't start to get or see the hints that Naruto resembled The Fourth untill Jiraiya came into the story....before dropping Naruto into the ravine, he said "sorry Fourth I hope you'll forgive me" why would he say that if Naruto isn't related to Yondaime?!?? and before the find Tsunade/Rasengan training arc he also mentioned that he trained the Fourth, and that he would also train Naruto and he also mentioned the resemblesness between Naruto and the Fourth...the Stubborness and the Blond Hair.....but he forgot the Blue Eyes!

- when Itachi & Kisame came lookin for Naruto, Itachi reffered to Naruto as "Yondaime's Legacy"! now a Legacy is something people leave behind that's related to them, it may be treasure,wealth,kingdom but this time it was Naruto who's Yondaime's Legacy, the ones who probably will backfire at me saying that Itachi was actually refering to the Kyuubi are WRONG cause the kyuubi was not related to the fourth he only sealed him in Naruto I would say it's 60% Naruto - 40% Kyuubi thus making his legacy 100% NARUTO!!!!

- as for chapter 339.....a miracle happened.....Someone closer to Naruto saw this. this for me was the first time in my life that I've read something that gave me Goosebumps!!!!!!!!!!!!!(P>S. it may be a spoiler to some of you)
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/9554/narutoandyondaimend1.jpg
This Chapter will be a one to remeber FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NARUTO CHAPTER 339 -remeber that-

dragado123
01-31-2007, 09:39 PM
I would have to agree with almost everything that Kuroi Getsuga Tenshou said. He does make a good point about how Yondaime can't be Naruto and how Yondaime can be Naruto and as for Malice i would have to disagree with some of your theories. I don't really think that Yondaime is really Naruto's grandfather because if he was who was actually his son? and plus if lee and Gai were somehow related or they were father and son why would he actually hide that? It doesn't actually make since. And also the fact about the characters mother. They haven't actually really shown any of the characters mother and i don't think they will ever. Like during the scenes about Neji and Hinata they only shown stuff related to there father and stuff but they nvr actually shown who were there mothers. Besides Kiba i don't think we have seen any other main characters mother.

XV Barixn
02-01-2007, 01:23 AM
i don't think sakura can be related to tsunade she just dosn't have the breasts.

anyway i don't understand why naruto had to have a really powerful father couldn't his father just have been a victim of the kyuubi and so the 4th thought it ironic that the kyuubi would help naruto with his chakara in return for killing naruto's parents.
i always thought that naruto was more the story that anyone can become strong if they work hard and that for naruto his family's history is unimportant- thats sauke's story.

Tsunade didn't have large breasts either when she was young, when she matured they started growing.

Tsi
02-01-2007, 04:42 PM
Well if Naruto would just ask who his parents are we would have this conflict resolved. Have you ever thought that maybee he would just be a bit curious as to who his parents were? But he's oblivious too it, I think eventually he's going to ask because wer'e almost certain that half the adult population of Konohagakure knows since they also knew about the kyuubi. My bets would be that he's Yondaime's child but that doesn't explain the absence of his mother. You think they would at least talk about his mother, it would be pretty dramatic if Yondaime and his wife died both of them. They would talk about both of them not just Yondaime. So Naruto's mother might still be alive.

dragado123
02-01-2007, 10:44 PM
These are my two guess of what happen to Naruto's mother

- She died after she gave birth to Naruto
- After she gave birth to Naruto she died trying to fight Kyuubi

But i guess after you gave birth to someone it would be pretty hard to fight afterwards. Anyway i don't actually think that even if Naruto does ask who his parents were they probably won't tell him or will never. And it doesen't seem that we're gonna be finding out who Naruto's mother and father anything soon. Especially in the manga.

Dark Fire
02-01-2007, 11:19 PM
i don't think sakura can be related to tsunade she just dosn't have the breasts. that and the fact that Sakura has Parents

anyway i don't understand why naruto had to have a really powerful father couldn't his father just have been a victim of the kyuubi and so the 4th thought it ironic that the kyuubi would help naruto with his chakara in return for killing naruto's parents.
i always thought that naruto was more the story that anyone can become strong if they work hard and that for naruto his family's history is unimportant- thats sauke's story. in that case why Naruto... there were many children who lost their parent's to Kyuubi, for example Ikura. Why was it Naruto and not some other child.

I honestly don't believe that Naruto is the fourth it's just so improbable

We didn't start to get or see the hints that Naruto resembled The Fourth untill Jiraiya came into the story....before dropping Naruto into the ravine, he said "sorry Fourth I hope you'll forgive me" why would he say that if Naruto isn't related to Yondaime?!?? I am going to have to play devils advocate on this one, but Jiraiya could have said that because he was intensionaly causing Naruto to draw upon Kyuubi's powers, powers that the fourth gave his life to seal away


All of these speculation are verry possible I just wish that they could write and draw faster so I didn't have to wait as much, any way I am seriously anxious to see who it all plays out

Tsi
02-01-2007, 11:27 PM
Yeah I understand what you say Dragoado, but wouldn't they speak of Naruto's mother. It's always talking about Yondaime's death but if his mother died they would talk about her death as well because if she was his wife -Yondaime, a very friendly social person shown by Kakashi Gaiden, would probably have someone somewhat friendly too and thus she would have made good friends who would mourn. It also is the part of grandparents fallen off the side of the world. Also, if Gai and Lee were related they wouldn't hide it, they would be in some dramatic hugging scene with waves crashing in the background. (Okay that already happened in the anime but imagine it again)

dragado123
02-02-2007, 12:40 AM
Originally Posted by Kuroi Getsuga Tenshou
We didn't start to get or see the hints that Naruto resembled The Fourth untill Jiraiya came into the story....before dropping Naruto into the ravine, he said "sorry Fourth I hope you'll forgive me" why would he say that if Naruto isn't related to Yondaime?!??I am going to have to play devils advocate on this one, but Jiraiya could have said that because he was intensionaly causing Naruto to draw upon Kyuubi's powers, powers that the fourth gave his life to seal away
I would have to agree with with you Fire that when Jiraya went and said that "sorry fourth i hope you'll forgive me" can also meant that he is sorry for drawing out some of Naruto's power which the fourth gave his life just to seal that power inside Naruto. It doesn't always have to mean that He is sorry for blah blah blah you know what i mean.

And also Tsi remember what i said about the mother isn't really that important to the story line. I mean if Naruto's mother was important then i would have to say that the other main characters mother should be important to. So the matter of fact that there mothers isn't included is because they'll probably just be in the way to the whole entire story line. Though it would be cool to see Naruto's mother :).

Dark Fire
02-02-2007, 07:44 AM
ah but if Naruto's mother is alive then she is important, due to the fact that she is Naruto's ONLY parent, this kind of thing is important. However I think that if she is introduced into the manga she will be killed off instantaneously

Mercurius
02-02-2007, 01:58 PM
The Fourth shares many similarities with Naruto, including the same spiky blond hair, blue eyes, same techniques, the same blood type (B), and overall similar personalities as noted by Jiraiya. Itachi Uchiha noted Naruto to be the Fourth's "legacy". Furthermore, when Jiraiya was trying to force Naruto to release his demon fox chakra, he pushed Naruto off of a cliff, saying, "Forgive me, Fourth," as he did so. Beyond these, there are several minor comparisons made consistently throughout the series. Any hints to his real name, history, or family relations have been carefully avoided, making his past one of the biggest mysteries of the series.

Well, I dunno...I doubt that the fourth would just seal the Ninetails in some random kid.

But there is one thing that I wondered about...HOW did YOndaime seal the Kyuubi in Naruto if he did...

-I highly doubt Yondaime had Naruto with him during the battle, so how did he get the Kyuubi in Naruto then
-When Sandaime used the Dead Demon Consuming Seal the seal came on Sandaime himself...not somewhere else
-Where is Naruto's Mommy?
-Where's Naruto's Daddy?

Wich makes me quite sure..that Naruto is Either Yondaime himself or his son

Anarchy
02-02-2007, 06:23 PM
the fourth IS naruto father it says it somewhere in episodes 80-90
and i'm sure the fourth sealed the Nine Tails Fox in naruto while he has in the whom why a pregnant chick was fighting i'll never know

Anubisrage
02-02-2007, 07:59 PM
I think Yondaime is Naruto's Father...

dragado123
02-02-2007, 09:19 PM
I think Yondaime is Naruto's Father...
Care to give your reason why u think that?
the fourth IS naruto father it says it somewhere in episodes 80-90
Ummm i think your reading the wrong thing or is thinking bout something else. It didn't say anything about Naruto's parents the whole entire series (well the first part) It only stated that the 4th sealed the Kyuubi into Naruto nothing about him and his parents so yeah.

Kabane
02-02-2007, 10:59 PM
- they NEVER EVER said that the newborn baby Yondaime took was an INFANT (meaning he had no parents at that time ad thus why Yondaime took him) so it could mean either the parents agreed to do this wich is probably only Yondaime.

What kind of newborn isnt an infant.

- when everyone IN the manga talks about Yondaime and from what we've seen is that he was someone who truly has the WILL OF FIRE he wouldn't even think twice to give his life FOR the village! he was always portrayed as someone who deeply cared for his entire village making him a almost flawless Hokage he treated everyone as equals and he wanted to protect EVERYONE!!!
Now doesn't Naruto say the same thing *I Wan't to Protect Everyone*?!??
- Now back to the newborn baby "Uzumaki Naruto"....there's is something I just DON'T understand, or better yet I can't understand it, and I won't accept it! with the Fourth...yeah Yondaime with him being the best ninja in Konohagakure and him being the role model to everyone and with his nice personality and everything he stands for.....I don't think he can take anybody's baby and seal a Bijuu in it!!!! Being a hokage I know you have to sometimes make certain sacrifices but when there's a baby involved you just crossed the line.....and you'll end up like Orochimaru. Yondaime is not someone who does thinks like that.....BUT if you would like to pass on the WILL Of FIRE to the one most precious to you and equip him with one of the deadliest weapons to help him do so then who would that be?!????

Personality does not come from your father, even if you were raised by him.



here are somethings i think you should consider.

1. Expectation - How predictable is it for Yondaime to be Naruto's father. As bad as Naruto is, it isnt predictable. The story was formed so that, literally, anything would happen. Kishimoto doesnt clearly state that Yondaime is Naruto's father. He only aludes to there being a relationship between them. The basis of all we know about Naruto's infancy comes from exactly one person: Yondaime. Everything we hear from any other character is hear-say. Yondaime TOLD them not to be mean to Naruto, but you never see Naruto and Yondaime together before Yondaime dies. Yondaime could have known he would revert and tried to keep it from us because:
(a) He wanted to be treated like all others. - Lets say Yondaime told everyone he would revert to a child. What would happen then? They'd put him on a pedestal and worship him? Someone as humble as Yondaime wouldnt want that. That would influence his personality greatly, causing him to be spoiled and shallow, it was not something he wanted to become.
(b) Threat to his life. - So now the strongest hokage ever is a child. If you were an enemy villiage this would be the perfect time to exact revenge on someone whom you lost to in many different occasions.

2. The Absence of Yondaime's past. - Yondaime was not said to have a wife or a girl friend, and certainly ninjas do not produce via asexual reproduction. If he did have a wife, wouldnt she be an important character in teh story?

3. Characters are NOT stupid. - Its not hard to associate Yondaime and Naruto. All the great ninjas in Naruto see it. Why dont they speculate that Yondaime is Naruto's son? Because they KNOW its not true.

4. Personality is not Genetic. - If your father hates jews, it doesnt mean that you hate them too. It is possible, that Naruto recieved his Ideals and Virtues from Yondaime's soul, which was reborn when he took the Kyuubi within him (which is how you perform the jutsu btw). All the memories of Yondaime could be dormant within Naruto, it could be why he was able to summon Gamabunta, it could be why he was able to learn Rasengan so quickly. All of that, was stored in Yondaime's memory. Naruto simply had to find a way to unlock it.

5. The other Jinchuriki(sp) - It was stated by others that usually, the Jinchuriki become insane and angry as they grew older, for the most part they were alone and out casted. The Soul of yondaime could supercede all of the outer stimulus and keep Naruto pure. Saying Iruka was the reason could be ill-founded. Gaara had his siblings and still ended up the way he was when we first met him.

Anarchy
02-03-2007, 02:10 AM
@dragado123 ok in one of the episodes 80-90 when they say the fourth's "legacy" im pretty sure it's the same as saying his son, child, ect

Lust
02-04-2007, 09:00 AM
hmm i think the kyubii is naruto dad

Dark Fire
02-04-2007, 09:10 AM
yah like that make sense Kyubii is a Demon, Naruto is a human. Plus Kyubii hates Naruto's very existance. I really don't like when people come in a f*** with a serious discussion if you not going to be serious then please stay out of the conversation

dragado123
02-04-2007, 03:06 PM
hmm i think the kyubii is naruto dad

Ummm care to explain why you think he is Naruto's father? like Phoenix Fire said Kyuubi is a demon and Naruto is a human they both hate each other but they need each other to exist plus if Kyuubi was a demon how would he give birth to a human? That doesn't make sense at all. Seriously, but i would understand if it was some kind of joke though.

Kuroi Getsuga Tenshou
02-05-2007, 12:29 PM
Ryuuken what's the point of your Argument, what are you trying to say, do wan't to destroy mine? are simply you don't lik ethe Idea of Yondaime being naruto's Father wich is it?

Kabane
02-06-2007, 07:00 PM
its simply to show that some of your facts are ill founded and lack a certain level of logic.

Lady Ushio
02-06-2007, 07:09 PM
Wow, i think every one agrees the samest thing - even me! Naruto and Yondaime are really look-alike. Thanks for bringing this up!

Maconi
02-07-2007, 05:10 AM
Althought I do like your theory, and almost wish it was true because it would make an awesome plot twist (besides the fact I already know it now lol), there is only ONE thing that disproves your entire theory Ryuuken.

I'm not sure what anime episode it was, or what manga chapter, but everyone will know what I'm talking about.

When Orochimaru and the Third fought. Everyone remembers when he uses the summoning jutsu. The third freaks out, and prevents him from summoning the fourth (thus saying there is a dead body of the fourth to resurrect).

On top of that, he uses the jutsu that the fourth taught him and said to himself "It's just like the fourth said, only the user can see the god of death" (not a direct quote). Meaning the fourth and the third had to of been close in some way.

What I'm getting at is, the third would know if there was a body of the fourth somewhere, so if he freaked out over Orochimaru's jutsu, then the fourth really did die using that seal jutsu, and didn't revert to a child. (even though I so wish he did :sad lol)

-Mac

Kuroi Getsuga Tenshou
02-08-2007, 09:16 PM
@Ryuuken....Level of Logic? I mean how high do you expect the level of my logic too be like? (I'm not mad by the way....)

look man anyway.........Naruto's father is Yondaime!

Kabane
02-08-2007, 10:07 PM
Althought I do like your theory, and almost wish it was true because it would make an awesome plot twist (besides the fact I already know it now lol), there is only ONE thing that disproves your entire theory Ryuuken.
I'm not sure what anime episode it was, or what manga chapter, but everyone will know what I'm talking about.
When Orochimaru and the Third fought. Everyone remembers when he uses the summoning jutsu. The third freaks out, and prevents him from summoning the fourth (thus saying there is a dead body of the fourth to resurrect).
On top of that, he uses the jutsu that the fourth taught him and said to himself "It's just like the fourth said, only the user can see the god of death" (not a direct quote). Meaning the fourth and the third had to of been close in some way.
What I'm getting at is, the third would know if there was a body of the fourth somewhere, so if he freaked out over Orochimaru's jutsu, then the fourth really did die using that seal jutsu, and didn't revert to a child. (even though I so wish he did :sad lol)
-Mac

That disproves nothing. We didnt see the casket get ressurrected. We dont even know how that jutsu works exactly. I've thought about that part before. Sandaime might have been suspicious that Naruto was actually Yondaime. Attempting to ressurect the 4th could inadvertantly kill Naruto and lead to releasing of the Kyuubi. Sandaime did NOT want that so he tried to stop the summon as much as possible.

As for how the jutsu works. I think that within that coffin is the human sacrifice and after the jutsu is completed, the human sacrifice takes the shape of the targetted dead body and absorbs the soul as well as powers. I doubt the first or second Hokage's bodies are above decomposition.


@KGT: well its not like im calling you stupid, but like i said...what kind of "newborn" isnt a baby?

XV Barixn
02-08-2007, 11:47 PM
look man anyway.........Naruto's father is Yondaime!

Please, while the assumption seems incredibly true, we can't just say Naruto's father is Yondaime because they never said anything of the sort.

Sometimes, Naruto is referred as 'his legacy', whether that translates as Yondaime's son or the fact that he sealed Kyuubi in Naruto is a mystery.

Shingi
02-20-2007, 11:30 PM
Can Yondaime be naruto's brother? Really, he looks really young to have a son and bieng a hokage.

Taiyou no Kishi
02-21-2007, 01:15 PM
Eh. This has been brought up in so many other forums, it's not even funny . Personally, I don't think Naruto would be the Yondaime's son. The reason is, look at Konohamaru. he's the third's grandson, and he gets special treatment plus recognition. If Naruto was of the fourth's blood, no doubt that he would have received the same special treatment and recognition. Granted, something like the Kyuubi that spelled destruction for Konoha and being the incarnation of that disaster would earn anyone the hatred of the village, but if Naruto was the Yondaime's son, then most likely than not, the village would view Naruto as the village Hero. That's my two cents.

and the whole question about their similar appearance? I think that's coincidence and perhaps even a bit of foreshadowing. I think Naruto, after everything is said and done, will eventually earn the title of Hokage, and be as great, if not greater than the 4th.

Seff vi Britannia
02-25-2007, 08:59 AM
I personally think that Yondaime IS Narutos father/elder brother.
However, i don't think that Yondaime is Naruto, because:
Kage Bunshin No Jutsu :P
Naruto can do it, Yondaime couldn't.

_mike_
02-25-2007, 09:50 AM
I personally think that Yondaime IS Narutos father/elder brother.
However, i don't think that Yondaime is Naruto, because:
Kage Bunshin No Jutsu :P
Naruto can do it, Yondaime couldn't.
who says he couldnt?
Jounin such as kakashi can do it.....and im sure other jounin can too. so therefore Yondaime could use it..remember he was hokage, so he mustve known a few techniques ;p


EDIT: Maybe naruto is Yondaimes illegitimate son ;p

jmin725
02-28-2007, 04:06 PM
welp..its time to answer this answer finally. this is what really happened:
When the battle against the 9 tails was going on, the 3rd hokage had the 4th hokage wife hostage. the 3rd told the 4th to seal the 9 tails inside thier sons body since that was the only option of saving the village at the time. With the 4ths wife held hostage, he had no choice but to agree to the terms the 3rd set forth and had to seal the 9 tails inside of thier son, Naruto. Thus, he wanted everyone in the village to see naruto as a hero and not to be hated. After the battle, the 4ths wife ended up dying and the 4th fled the village. HE DID NOT DIE as everyone thinks he did.




SPOILER! The 4th is the current leader of akatsuki. This is why the leader of akatuski knows so much about Konoha. He seeks to get revenge on Konoha.

edssweet
03-02-2007, 05:28 PM
jmin725 where did you find that out, personally it sounds made up to me

Kuroi Getsuga Tenshou
03-02-2007, 06:38 PM
look look, some people here Are quoting me and trying too justify how many mistakes I make in my theory's or try too pick certain things Off of it look! I just wanna say this......with Yondaime being the way he was, nice, good role-model always a smile on his face and all that, yes all that.....would someone like that really pick a baby and seal a DEMON-FOX in him?? just any baby would do? COME ON!!! COME ON!!! were talking about yondaime here, look It's either Yondaime was his father.....and if that isn't true then his brother.....and is that too isnt neither those I mentioned above then I'll shut-up but till then nobody can't tell me nothing.........(Ready when you are!)

Mugen
03-04-2007, 07:35 PM
It`s a fact that the Yondaime is actually Naruto`s father.........read the manga and you`ll find out.

Hollow Kurosaki 92
03-05-2007, 05:42 AM
i agree. Yondaime is Naruto's father. looks to the statue in the first episode of shipuuden, and he is compared to him in the manga. i gont THINK that any thing else needs to be said.

Kurosaki_Ichigo812
03-08-2007, 10:19 PM
Like the title say "Naruto's Father". This thread is to speculate who you actually think Naruto's father is.
The person who i actually think is Naruto's father is the 4th hokage, Yondaime. The reason why i think that he is Naruto's father is because when he sealed Kyuubi into Naruto he wanted the whole village to know of his existence. I mean why would the 4th hokage just seal Kyuubi into a random baby. That would actually be cruel of him. When i mean by everyone knowing Naruto's existence i'm talking bout everyone knowing him as a strong ninja and not just someone that posses Kyuubi. Yondaime probably knew that he would become a excellent ninja with the help of Kyuubi and all. That's my reason why the 4th might be Naruto's father
i agree and he looks like him

Bankai_Kratos
03-09-2007, 01:45 AM
The following post contains manga spoilers (like anyone cares)


Although there is PLENTY of evidence that Yondaime is naruto's father, besides the looks, I believe one of the biggest hints is simply the mastery of Rasengan. He implements wind into and goes beyond even what Yondaime did with it.


However there is evidence about the whole "naruto is yondaime" theory. See, if you didnt notice, MANY of the ninjas in konoha grew up with Yondaime. Now, if Yondaime had indeed became younger, that means he would have the exact same genetic makeup, and would therefore look the exact same and grow the exact same way. Now, if they were one in the same, dont you think someone who knew Yondaime as a child would think "Man he looks EXACTLY like yondaime"? Well, that doesnt happen. And it isnt until the shippuden arc that they really start to see any resemblance.

And it is already said that Naruto had a mother who just died.

Hiyuu Tatsuma
03-09-2007, 02:59 AM
Eh. This has been brought up in so many other forums, it's not even funny . Personally, I don't think Naruto would be the Yondaime's son. The reason is, look at Konohamaru. he's the third's grandson, and he gets special treatment plus recognition. If Naruto was of the fourth's blood, no doubt that he would have received the same special treatment and recognition. Granted, something like the Kyuubi that spelled destruction for Konoha and being the incarnation of that disaster would earn anyone the hatred of the village, but if Naruto was the Yondaime's son, then most likely than not, the village would view Naruto as the village Hero. That's my two cents.
and the whole question about their similar appearance? I think that's coincidence and perhaps even a bit of foreshadowing. I think Naruto, after everything is said and done, will eventually earn the title of Hokage, and be as great, if not greater than the 4th.
ya i agree with u 100%
ok they look a bit alike so what and if the 4th can not be naruto as the 4th said the was a hero and naruto was just Bron so Yondaime can not be him and if Yondaime was his dad why did no one say it naruto and what about his mother and other people eg grandad etc.....

Mugen
03-11-2007, 05:47 PM
*yawn* If youy played Narutimate Hero 3 there are instances that he`s naruto`s father as well. And just because People master the Rasengan doesn`t mean that he`s naruto`s father even though he is in fact naruto`s father >_>. I mean Kakashi and Jariya also know the Rasengan pretty well too with Jariya almost Rivalig the Yondaime`s skills.

死神 クリス
03-11-2007, 05:58 PM
Yondaime 4th Hokage, the reason I say this is he shares visible traits such as hair color etc... Closest thing to a father in that town :) Maybe he is his brother... God knows. :)

Mugen
03-11-2007, 06:17 PM
Oh yeah and to Taiyou get your Naruto facts straight before you dish these things out. The Yondaime thought that Naruto would get Recognition because he was the reason the Nine-Tailed Fox could be sealed but instead the villagers shunned him except the 3rd Hokage, and Iruka because they feared the Demon within Naruto thinking it would burst out at any moment.

.Kozmic
03-18-2007, 08:42 PM
This has probably already been said, but Yondaime is compared to Naruto by Jiraya on his mission to find Tsunade.

Emperor Knives
03-19-2007, 01:21 AM
As of now I don't think there is enough evidence to prove that he is Naruto's father. We really don't know much about the Yondaime's past. All we know is that he was the Fourth Hokage and he was Kakashi's former sensei and that he sealed the Kyuubi inside of Naruto. I think the only connection we could make between the 2 right now is their external appearance.

Mugen
03-19-2007, 01:47 AM
The Fourth Hokage
Age: ? (deceased)
Rank: Hokage
Height: 179.2 cm
Weight: 66.1 kg2
Birthday: January 25
Blood Type: B
Unique traits: Flying Thunder God Technique, Spiraling Sphere, Dead Demon Consuming Seal
The Fourth Hokage (四代目火影, Yondaime Hokage?), also known as "The Leaf's Yellow Flash" (木ノ葉の黄色い閃光, Konoha no Kīroi Senkō?), was the brave ninja responsible for sealing the demon fox inside Naruto. He is said to be the greatest ninja Konoha had ever produced. Though his skills in combat go largely unwitnessed, he was considered dangerous enough that a flee-on-sight order was given in regards to him during the Third Ninja War. Before performing the seal on the demon fox, the Fourth said that he did not want Naruto to be viewed as the container of a monster, but as a hero who saved the village from annihilation. This request, however, was not honored by the villagers, who still held much resentment for the demon fox. He was a student of Jiraiya along with two other unknown Genin, and was the sensei of Kakashi Hatake, Obito Uchiha, and Rin.

The Fourth shares many similarities with Naruto, including the same spiky blond hair, blue eyes, same techniques, the same blood type (B), and overall similar personalities as noted by Jiraiya. Itachi Uchiha noted Naruto to be the Fourth's "legacy". Furthermore, when Jiraiya was trying to force Naruto to release his demon fox chakra, he pushed Naruto off of a cliff, saying, "Forgive me, Fourth," as he did so. Beyond these, there are several minor comparisons made consistently throughout the series. Any hints to his real name, history, or family relations have been carefully avoided, making his past one of the biggest mysteries of the series.

The Fourth created several distinctive techniques, including the Flying Thunder God Technique, which essentially allowed him to teleport to any location with the use of a special seal. He also created the Spiraling Sphere, a technique that does not rely on hand seals, but instead uses a concentration of spinning chakra in the palm that causes immense damage to its victim on contact. Later in the series it is revealed that this signature technique is actually incomplete. The Fourth had planned to add his own nature manipulation training to the Rasengan, making it even more powerful, but couldn't manage to combine the two prior to his premature death.

that should be enough info for you to assume that he`s naruto`s dad >_>

Emperor Knives
03-19-2007, 05:05 AM
I already know of the info you posted. I still doubt the Yondaime is Naruto's father unless there is solid evidence that tells that to us. As of now there is none but I am not totally dismissing the idea.

.Kozmic
03-21-2007, 12:35 AM
The Fourth Hokage
Age: ? (deceased)
Rank: Hokage
Height: 179.2 cm
Weight: 66.1 kg2
Birthday: January 25
Blood Type: B
Unique traits: Flying Thunder God Technique, Spiraling Sphere, Dead Demon Consuming Seal
The Fourth Hokage (四代目火影, Yondaime Hokage?), also known as "The Leaf's Yellow Flash" (木ノ葉の黄色い閃光, Konoha no Kīroi Senkō?), was the brave ninja responsible for sealing the demon fox inside Naruto. He is said to be the greatest ninja Konoha had ever produced. Though his skills in combat go largely unwitnessed, he was considered dangerous enough that a flee-on-sight order was given in regards to him during the Third Ninja War. Before performing the seal on the demon fox, the Fourth said that he did not want Naruto to be viewed as the container of a monster, but as a hero who saved the village from annihilation. This request, however, was not honored by the villagers, who still held much resentment for the demon fox. He was a student of Jiraiya along with two other unknown Genin, and was the sensei of Kakashi Hatake, Obito Uchiha, and Rin.
The Fourth shares many similarities with Naruto, including the same spiky blond hair, blue eyes, same techniques, the same blood type (B), and overall similar personalities as noted by Jiraiya. Itachi Uchiha noted Naruto to be the Fourth's "legacy". Furthermore, when Jiraiya was trying to force Naruto to release his demon fox chakra, he pushed Naruto off of a cliff, saying, "Forgive me, Fourth," as he did so. Beyond these, there are several minor comparisons made consistently throughout the series. Any hints to his real name, history, or family relations have been carefully avoided, making his past one of the biggest mysteries of the series.
The Fourth created several distinctive techniques, including the Flying Thunder God Technique, which essentially allowed him to teleport to any location with the use of a special seal. He also created the Spiraling Sphere, a technique that does not rely on hand seals, but instead uses a concentration of spinning chakra in the palm that causes immense damage to its victim on contact. Later in the series it is revealed that this signature technique is actually incomplete. The Fourth had planned to add his own nature manipulation training to the Rasengan, making it even more powerful, but couldn't manage to combine the two prior to his premature death.
that should be enough info for you to assume that he`s naruto`s dad >_>

Was this on Wikipedia? I think it was, hmmmm

飛雲
03-22-2007, 12:45 AM
I do not agree, dispise all the resemblance those two have, lets think rationally. If Yondaime is really the father of Naruto, then Naruto is the son of their hero, clearly they would not dispise Naruto as they did, instead they would care for him because his father use his own child as the container to the great demon.

But the villagers of Konoha dislike Naruto from the moment the show starts, though the younger ones didn't know the truth what about the older ones? The ones that were there when the demon attacked? They should be grateful to Naruto but no~~~ They all hated him.

Emperor Knives
03-23-2007, 04:24 AM
Well you know there's always the possibility that the people didn't know that he was actually the son of the Yondaime.

Hiyuu Tatsuma
03-23-2007, 05:20 AM
i am say he is naruto father but why would they not say it to him that his dad was
what about his other family 1 thing it would explain were he got his house from
(this is off point but naruto say he was all was alone the other kids ran from him but in some flash back they show Kiba Chouji and Shikamaru
like in esp were the go to get Tsunade and has flash back when Iruka is telling them to concentrate they seem friends)

飛雲
03-25-2007, 01:46 AM
Well you know there's always the possibility that the people didn't know that he was actually the son of the Yondaime.

I can't see how this can be possible when there are many people who withness the battle, and if the Yondaime have a son, shouldn't the village celebrate it? And thus making the son well known, to let everyone know that the great Hokeage have a son

Seff vi Britannia
03-25-2007, 10:11 PM
I'm going to go with my new favourite character and say, Naruto's father is.






Uchiha Madara.


Ok, no seriously, It really is going to be the fourth, if Kishi's as predictable as we all know he is.

飛雲
03-26-2007, 12:37 AM
i am say he is naruto father but why would they not say it to him that his dad was
what about his other family 1 thing it would explain were he got his house from
(this is off point but naruto say he was all was alone the other kids ran from him but in some flash back they show Kiba Chouji and Shikamaru
like in esp were the go to get Tsunade and has flash back when Iruka is telling them to concentrate they seem friends)

I don't get a word you said

Although there is PLENTY of evidence that Yondaime is naruto's father, besides the looks, I believe one of the biggest hints is simply the mastery of Rasengan. He implements wind into and goes beyond even what Yondaime did with it.

This is preposterous, Rasengan is not a kekkei genkai, blood have no relate what so ever. Anyone could master Rasengan, is only focus your chakra on your hand to make it visble and then control it, the reason why is rare is because it require massive amount of chakra which Naruto have the advantage (his kyubi).

Sharpie_x
03-26-2007, 01:12 AM
I'll have to say that Yondaime is Naruto's father because of the reasons mentioned before and his similar appearence same hair, same eyes, they both wanting to be Hokages, he created the Rasengan which Naruto can use, the same blood type (B). Also because Naruto has always lookup to him (almost as his father) and it seem pretty logical to me. Even if the whole village didn't knew maybe it was a secret birth. I really don't know but I would feel a little angry if he isn't Naruto's father.

飛雲
03-27-2007, 12:10 AM
I'll have to say that Yondaime is Naruto's father because of the reasons mentioned before and his similar appearence same hair, same eyes, they both wanting to be Hokages, he created the Rasengan which Naruto can use, the same blood type (B). Also because Naruto has always lookup to him (almost as his father) and it seem pretty logical to me. Even if the whole village didn't knew maybe it was a secret birth. I really don't know but I would feel a little angry if he isn't Naruto's father.

Despise the appearances, I have counter all your view points. Also, when does it show that the 4th wanted to be Hokage? He was already one when he first appeared and do you know the reason why Naruto wanted to be Hokage? Because he want to be recognized, to let people know he exist and is not a good for nothing.... now you know, Hokage is a great status that equal to Daimiyo and command all ninjas in that land... you think Naruto is suitable for the job when his reason are so navie?

Think of like this, a guy who everyone look down vow to be the president of the United State so no one would look down on him any more... is this a good reason? Should this guy be the president?

As for Rasengan, well as I have said eailer is not a kekki genkai, blood relation had nothing to do with it. If the use of Rasengan could be use as a evidence then should that perverted guy be more suspisous? As he teached Naruto that skill and he is the student othe 4th.

As for apperances, aside for blond hair, I don't see any resemblancese. Also, a secret birth might be possible but not likely due to his popularlity. In Japan, only if the child was born by accident (as in, if the male is married but the baby is with another women) would be hidden from people. Otherwise, having a son is something Japanese (well... all Asian) are proud of (since only the Son can pass down the family name).

Now, I do not hate Naruto, though he show childish and stupid at times but as the new series began he have matured and is not impossible that he learned the meaning of Hokage and its responsisbilites so he would aim for it with the right reason.

Note; Hokage might not be the most powerful shinobi in the village, but he/she must be the most wise/helpful, there when people needs them.

Mugen
03-27-2007, 01:38 AM
wow some people are hard headed here >_>......... no offense but HOW was it a secret birth when the 3rd, Iruka, Kakashi, AND Jariya knew of his existence and also HOW in the hell could it be secret when the baby was used as the holder of the Kyuubi fox >_>. Enough said

飛雲
03-27-2007, 03:08 AM
^ Thank you

As I read through your previous post, I believe you also had the idea of Naruto is the 4th's son

Jaran
03-27-2007, 05:42 AM
I have one thing to say about this:

Kyuubi was sealed inside of Naruto at birth. If he was the Fourth's son, then of course it would be easiest for him to use his newborn child in order to seal the fox. In addition, where are Naruto's parents? What happened to them?

If it wasn't the Fourth who was Naruto's dad, I fail to see anyone else in the series who could have been it.

飛雲
03-27-2007, 03:23 PM
First of all, no one knew the 4th had a son, they never mention it. But did you people ever notice that Naruto never talk about his parents, as if he already knew who they are? Maybe, they die during the battle with the Kyubi, and he knew about it.... thats why he never ask.

meursault
03-27-2007, 08:41 PM
My first instinct after the first... uh... 10 minutes of Naruto was that he was the Fourth's son... I'd have a hard time deviating from that, it just seems too likely. Although if it came down to it, I'd say the next most plausible explanation would be his parents were nobody of note who just got killed by the Nine-tails.

Jaran
03-27-2007, 10:09 PM
Well, considering the fact that Naruto had just been born when Kyuubi was implanted in him, I doubt that his mom had been dead for long. In fact, I wouldn't doubt it if his mom was still alive somewhere.

飛雲
03-27-2007, 10:53 PM
My first instinct after the first... uh... 10 minutes of Naruto was that he was the Fourth's son... I'd have a hard time deviating from that, it just seems too likely. Although if it came down to it, I'd say the next most plausible explanation would be his parents were nobody of note who just got killed by the Nine-tails.

So according to you that only the decendants of a famous/noble family could be a main character.

meursault
03-27-2007, 11:00 PM
So according to you that only the decendants of a famous/noble family could be a main character.

If you'd carefully analyze the second half of what I said... I think it would be perfectly fitting for Naruto to have no famous/noble father but it's just too convenient and there's too much implication pointing towards the Fourth being his dad.

飛雲
03-27-2007, 11:44 PM
^ The implications you said would be?...

Aside from his appearances (which I can only notice the hair), his attitude (can be explain that Naruto look up the 4th as his idol).

Jaran
03-28-2007, 05:10 AM
If that's true, then why is Naruto always surprised when someone tells him something new about the Fourth? He seems to know nothing about the Fourth Hokage, other than the fact that he WAS the Fourth Hokage. He also didn't even know he had the Nine-Tails sealed inside of him at first.

Thus, all of this "Naruto knows more than he lets on" is pretty much all bunk.

Dark Fire
03-28-2007, 07:05 AM
I have one thing to say about this:

Kyuubi was sealed inside of Naruto at birth. If he was the Fourth's son, then of course it would be easiest for him to use his newborn child in order to seal the fox. In addition, where are Naruto's parents? What happened to them?

If it wasn't the Fourth who was Naruto's dad, I fail to see anyone else in the series who could have been it.

I agree there is no point in fighting over this when it fits in so perfectly enless 2 things happen 1 we NEVER find out who Naruto's parents were or 2 Naruto's parent's is someone even pwner

Toutaku Chuuei
03-28-2007, 12:57 PM
think about this though, Lee and gai look alot a like but they are not related at all, they look almost the same (even before lee cut his hair) but they are not related at all. so it could be the same for naruto and Yondaime.

but that is just what i think.

Seff vi Britannia
03-28-2007, 02:16 PM
The fourth is dead guys. Unless, maybe, in some wierd way, he's inside Kyuubi. But i do believe he was Naruto's father. Naruto's mum, IMO, is still alive. And i think i know who it is, but i like to keep my theorys to myself.

Pie <3
03-28-2007, 02:34 PM
And who do you think it is?
*Curious*
^^

Seff vi Britannia
03-28-2007, 03:05 PM
Lol, i think he's mums the Akatsuki chick. And it's just a theory, i have no evidence whatsoever. So much for keepign to myself :/

飛雲
03-28-2007, 03:49 PM
If that's true, then why is Naruto always surprised when someone tells him something new about the Fourth? He seems to know nothing about the Fourth Hokage, other than the fact that he WAS the Fourth Hokage. He also didn't even know he had the Nine-Tails sealed inside of him at first.
Thus, all of this "Naruto knows more than he lets on" is pretty much all bunk.

You don't have to know much about the person that you are admiring, plus Naruto was only 12... what make him look up to the 4th was the fact that he bacame Hokage very young and was very powerful and die young, like Alexander of Macedon, not much people know what he have done and yet many admire him (myself included).

Strong and Respected, that is all it take for Naruto to admire the 4th.

Dark Fire
03-29-2007, 10:49 PM
I didn't know Akatsuki had a chick in it..... Dahidra is a dude so I dun know who your talking about

飛雲
03-30-2007, 03:10 AM
^ when I read the manga, I though Dahidra was a chick (I still don't understand why Jap have so many male character that look like a chick)

Dark Fire
03-30-2007, 10:00 AM
I thought so too but if you watch shippuden he had a male voice.....

(I can tell you many reasons why anime has so many guys that look like chicks....
1. Young Japanese male and females do not differ in appearance verry much
2. Japanese culture values gender ambiguaty just as American's and European's have there counter cultures such punk or goth. If you look at a Japanese punk band such as an cafe you can see that at least 1 of there member are dress as a femal, this is prevalent in other bands aswell (think of it as a rocker fashion statement)
3. Three all most all culter females tend to like the "Pretty boys" more so to atract attention to a specific character they use that

I hope this helps you understand the Japanese culter better
**Disclamer info, so that if I am wrong I don't look like a total Jackass** this all is information I have heard over the years so I could be completely wrong the best thing you can do to find out for your self is to ask some one who lives in Japan......)

飛雲
03-30-2007, 03:48 PM
^ That is quite true... but still... this thing feel werid to me.

kiba's dog
04-03-2007, 04:39 AM
i think it is yodame because when jaira pushed naruto off that cliff he said forgive me yodaime

飛雲
04-05-2007, 04:33 AM
^ Maybe he is just saying it because he believes Naruto to be the one that can take up Yodaime's quest/burden/job.

Nood
04-05-2007, 09:28 PM
6 pages of discussion...
I hate to make stuff like this into facts, but I dont think that theres even 0.1% chance that the Fourth is NOT Naruto's father...
Everythign fits perfectly, we had thousand +1 hints about it, they look completly identical, yet almost nobody mentions him when Naruto is around.
Who the hell else he's father could be.
Hes obviously dead, thats not an issue as well since Oro tried to summon him back with the other Hokages, to do that the "target" should be dead...
We also know how he died, and saw that jutsu in action, it kills the user.

飛雲
04-10-2007, 04:47 AM
1. Identical? I can only see the hairs man...
2. If no one mention it to him, how he even knows about the 4th and want to be like him?

Nood
04-13-2007, 10:23 PM
1. Identical? I can only see the hairs man...
2. If no one mention it to him, how he even knows about the 4th and want to be like him?

1. nitpicking, the fourth is basically Naruto + 10 years
2. Donno, maybe we should ask Naruto, he wouldnt be able to answer aswell...

.Rik-uh-shey
04-14-2007, 12:55 AM
im surprised that naruto hasnt asked any questions about his family in the series yet. i mean shit. id wonder.

Nani?
04-14-2007, 02:59 AM
He probably knows.....

I like the idea that his Grandfather is Jiraiya, but it's to good to be true.

The fact that he still wears orange....wellllll.....that's not smart. Neither is white, green, red (sakura...), brown, yellow, or any other color. Except dark blue, and black. That's kinda it.

I enjoy reading Naruto, but it's not the greatest out there, and I don't expect anything amazingly deep from it. When Itachi returned (soooo long ago), I expected him to reveal that he was comming back to fufill killing his entire village, or to wipe out the village.

He came for Naruto. Which makes sense, since that's what Akatsuki wants, but it's so obvious. They want to dominate the world, yada yada. It's a Shonen, it's predictable.

I'm ranting again....must stop....must sleep.....*snore*

Hinagiku
04-14-2007, 03:11 AM
It's way too obvious the Fourth is his father. He is the only character that we've seen in action (Kakashi Gaiden) that hasn't had their name revealed. His hair and face are very similar to Naruto's, and Naruto's parents haven't even been touched upon yet. When it finally is revealed that Yondaime is his father, I'm sure there will be gasps, but in the end, most people will just say "I knew it".
I like the idea that a Hokage was Naruto's father, so I'm not trying to bash the idea. It's just too obvious for its own good.

飛雲
04-14-2007, 03:47 AM
^ I do admit Naruto and the 4th have some similar traits but... there are plenty of people that look alike in the world. Hell I see some people that look like Louis Koo (HK actor) few times.

Ah, I'm getting tire of this arguments with no one can post a solid fact (since either of Manga or Anime provide it), lets stop this... rather meaningless debate

Xazz
04-20-2007, 01:33 AM
I'm not taking either side on this debate, I just thought it was interesting. I haven't finished reading all of the Naruto manga, yet.
I can't see how this can be possible when there are many people who withness the battle, and if the Yondaime have a son, shouldn't the village celebrate it? And thus making the son well known, to let everyone know that the great Hokeage have a son
As far as I understand, Yondaime sealed the kyuubi inside of a new born, so in theory it could be possible that he had a son but there wasn't enough time to announce it to the whole village (putting aside the fact that there is discussion about Yodaime not having a relationship with anyone).
Another theory is that, rather than being cruel and taking a child, and since the Village was in dire straits, someone (who knows) could have offered a new born as a last resort. Although the latter is unlikely.

3. Characters are NOT stupid. - Its not hard to associate Yondaime and Naruto. All the great ninjas in Naruto see it. Why dont they speculate that Yondaime is Naruto's son? Because they KNOW its not true.
That statement can be two sided. They either know that he has a son, and don't have to speculate, or they know he doesn't have a son, and don't need to speculate. It doesn't really benefit anyone if they tell everyone that Naruto is the son (not saying he is) of Yondaime.

Nani?
04-23-2007, 03:28 AM
At least nobody is saying that the 4th is Akatsuki leader.

I can post a fact though! Just because you look similar DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE RELATED.

Similar genes don't create families, so if the mailman looks like you, it's a coincidence (or you're mommy should be on Desperate Houswives...)

Pace Hildebrand
04-27-2007, 07:05 AM
Ebisu is Naruto's father

Zorokai
04-27-2007, 06:07 PM
whos that?? and that fact is i doubt we will ever find out who narutos father is untill people who draw the manga put it in...

Edgey
05-04-2007, 09:59 PM
His father is obviously the 4th Hokage, they just look too much alike to not be related, yep, he is definately naruto's father, or a cousin or somrthing, i dunno.

byakuya999
05-10-2007, 12:41 AM
i think the 4th had a drunken fling and the he had a baby moma so he sacrifced him self so he wouldn t have to pay childsupport and see the repo man on his ass

Mikado
05-10-2007, 04:12 PM
It would be realy fun in the maker of the comic made the fourth hokage a uncle instead of his father, and his father turned out to be someone normal. God I love plot twists.

DatLatina!
05-16-2007, 01:17 AM
i always thought it was the 4 th

Miyagi Rikku
05-16-2007, 01:42 AM
I dont watch Naruto but I was told that it was Yondaime. Yondaime is hot btw. XD

DatLatina!
05-16-2007, 01:51 AM
right hes hot as h**l i wish we could see him more

deng1234
05-16-2007, 03:33 AM
I Thought Yondaime Was His Father But I Saw That Yondaimes Name And Last Name Is Completely Different From Uzumaki If U See The Signature When Naruto Signed For The Toad Summon His Is Next Tonaruto

.FrOsTy.
05-16-2007, 05:36 AM
if 4th was headband boy daddy he would have knocked up headband boy mommy pretty young. -_-

deng1234
05-16-2007, 07:58 PM
yondaime is not really proofed to be narutos father if u see in the anime when in the part where he signs up for the summoning toad the signature next to his was yondaimes signtaure. which both and last name started with an A

DatLatina!
05-16-2007, 08:49 PM
the 4 th is hot though better lookin then naruto

Zephiroth
05-17-2007, 10:37 PM
Perhaps the Akatsuki leader is'nt really Yodaime and then maybe the Akatsuki leader is Naruto's father and not Yodaime ? Or maybe Yodaime's brother? xD :Domo

DatLatina!
05-17-2007, 10:51 PM
but i never thought about yondaime's wife or naruto's mother though

Zephiroth
05-17-2007, 11:12 PM
Lol ... now who do we suppose Naruto's mother would be ?

DatLatina!
05-17-2007, 11:13 PM
well im not sure but well find out soon.

Heineken
05-18-2007, 07:57 PM
I believe we never get to see who Naruto's father is.

DatLatina!
05-19-2007, 12:17 AM
yea i feel lik wil never see him around but i know what he looks like

Kuroi Getsuga Tenshou
05-19-2007, 09:19 PM
The Manga may end without "That"being revealed!

iDont
05-20-2007, 12:11 AM
Imo, I think Naruto's father was just some ordinary ninja, if not, and ordinary person.

DatLatina!
05-20-2007, 01:46 AM
yea i think it will end just like that

boredomlover93
05-22-2007, 07:17 AM
but but look at yondaime and naruto!! they are practically bigger and smaller versions of each other!! it has to be!! this is one of those ideas that are first impressions that just stick.

Artemis
05-22-2007, 07:33 AM
I really hope that Naruto's father is yondaime, don't know why, but I reckon it would be great if that was true...

But it probably be someone we don't even know, and he died for some reason that will never be revealed...

Or maybe we'll never know....

DatLatina!
05-23-2007, 01:26 AM
i lov yondaime

boredomlover93
05-28-2007, 06:26 AM
i know yeah!! i mean youre sig is like the bomb. such a hot pic..... LOL someone said before that yondaime would've been real young when he had naruto but all the pics of yondaime look real young becuase they were of him like 12 years ago. he would have had naruto when he was 32?? somewhere around there.

girdragon
05-30-2007, 07:45 PM
narutos father is the 4th hocaga (i think thats how u spell it). i cant believe no one nows that! dau!!!

Juujika
05-31-2007, 05:17 PM
I have two thoughts when it comes to Narutos father, obivously its the 4th Hokage, I doubt the 4th would have picked some random child to hold the nine tails. His own son would be the best choice and each hokage after him would look after his son carefully Or....

The 4th when sealing the nine tails a monster of unlimited power inside him self i guess planing on dying with the nine tails inside himself, reverted to a mixed child form, with the fox features on his face and no memory of ever being the 4th hokage.

Kuroi Getsuga Tenshou
06-04-2007, 05:54 PM
I have two thoughts when it comes to Narutos father, obivously its the 4th Hokage, I doubt the 4th would have picked some random child to hold the nine tails. His own son would be the best choice and each hokage after him would look after his son carefully Or..
Finally someone who understands what it truly is!! I the fourth being "THE FOURTH" can't just pick-up some random baby and seal a bijuu in it, Shounen Manga just doesn't role that Hardcore way (well sometimes)!!

DatLatina!
06-04-2007, 09:57 PM
Narutos dad is my siggy

.Rik-uh-shey
06-04-2007, 10:02 PM
Naruto's dad is Bruce Willis you freaking noobs!

DatLatina!
06-04-2007, 10:03 PM
no its ali

.Rik-uh-shey
06-04-2007, 10:06 PM
who the hell is ali?

DatLatina!
06-04-2007, 10:08 PM
mohammed ali

.Rik-uh-shey
06-04-2007, 10:11 PM
oh. should be more specific lol. but no way! the resemblance between Naruto and bruce willis is uncanny!
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/54/039_15135~Bruce-Willis-Posters.jpg
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/0/02/200px-Naruto_naruto0157.jpg

DatLatina!
06-04-2007, 10:12 PM
i was just being stupid when i said that

.Rik-uh-shey
06-04-2007, 10:14 PM
im completely serious. Bruce Willis IS naruto's father.

DatLatina!
06-04-2007, 10:16 PM
ok i believe u

.Rik-uh-shey
06-04-2007, 10:19 PM
damn right you do. now i just need to convert more ppl into my way of thinking

DatLatina!
06-04-2007, 10:20 PM
uhuh...thats right baby i believe u

kenicchi
06-07-2007, 04:08 PM
i dont know, bruce has green eyes, naruto on the hand has blue eyes,... im gonna say Chuck norris is the father, since he too has blue eyes

DatLatina!
06-07-2007, 11:08 PM
ok...im his mom

kenicchi
06-07-2007, 11:17 PM
rly? and where were u this whole time?

DatLatina!
06-07-2007, 11:19 PM
i was in heaven savin his japanese ass

.Rik-uh-shey
06-07-2007, 11:31 PM
she was in my bedsheets cheating on Bruce Willis

DatLatina!
06-08-2007, 12:05 AM
yea i was in 13ths bedsheets doin bad stuff....

kenicchi
06-08-2007, 03:05 AM
tsk tsk, a mother naruto could be proud of, no wonder he wants sasuke so bad, how could he ever trust a woman again?

DatLatina!
06-09-2007, 05:35 PM
yea i was being bad...but seriously every1 knows naruto's father its so obvious

ichigo81195
06-10-2007, 01:49 AM
My opinion is: Naruto has no father.

Unless much has changed since i read my last manga chapter (somewhere near 300) Im staying with the opinoin that Naruto has no father, well..i suppose he does...but we dont know of him.

People make the general assumption that Naruto's father is Yondaime because he looks like him and is almost always compared to him. What i say is Yondaime IS Naruto. From what we've been told, The Seal technique that Yondaime used is identical to the one Sandaime used on Orochimaru. The way the Seal Technique works is the user would take the soul of the target into himself, and destroy them both. Now, what if the target was an endlessly powerful spirit that was proclaimed to be immortal? In my opinion, it caused a strange reaction with the jutsu and resulted in Yondaime reverting to child form?

Wouldnt it make sense? Especially since Naruto wasnt shown to have a mother, which is biologically impossible.


rofl i hope there were no new revelations in the manga.


u have a very good point that could have happined.

.Rik-uh-shey
06-10-2007, 02:03 AM
i agree. naruto has no father. his mother was a lesbian and he was made in a test tube

DatLatina!
06-10-2007, 01:48 PM
i thought he always had a father and no mother now im switch in it around he has a mother but no father and was made in a tube what the helll that is ****in weird.....

kenicchi
06-10-2007, 04:42 PM
... he has neither, he's spwned from a hermaphrodite... which explains why the creator decided to let him summon frogs

Kuroi Getsuga Tenshou
06-10-2007, 05:27 PM
wtf ????

DatLatina!
06-10-2007, 05:29 PM
yea again wtf?!?!

kenicchi
06-10-2007, 05:34 PM
think about it

DatLatina!
06-10-2007, 05:37 PM
ok ill think about it someomore

toushiro521
06-13-2007, 08:32 AM
hmm..this title i had been saw it some days ago!

kenicchi
06-13-2007, 06:49 PM
pardon?

.Rik-uh-shey
06-13-2007, 06:51 PM
yah cuz ive got no clue what your trying to say, bud

Mikado
06-13-2007, 07:26 PM
If it the 4th I'll burn naruto.

Kuroi Getsuga Tenshou
06-13-2007, 09:25 PM
I can't believe so many people still deny the Father-Son relationship between Naruto and Yondaime, haven't you guys ever read Japanese literature/mangas.........??

1. Japanese writers tend to write like this all the time. Look at DBZ for instance, some things are just so obvious that the writer makes it even more obvious, but entrances the reader by hiding the *method of revealing*/ *zOMG Jiraiya knew the whole time*

2. Read the manga carefully. It is revealed by Sandaime that Yondaime *told the villagers to respect Naruto because he was a hero* so we know now that Yondaime picked Naruto for a reason and SAID this for a reason....

3. Appearance-- usually in any cartoon or manga the writers use this technique of writing, it's just a plot device to heighten the emotional value of the piece... *in this case Naruto is an orphan and it just so happened he was born on the day that Yondaime died; then we can speculate Yondaime knew the Fox wouldn't be fatal to Naruto because why the **** would a Hokage put an infant in danger of dying..?
They look alike, they act alike, etc. etc. Now people will say "Jiraiya acts like Yondaime so he must be Yondaime's father"... This may be. We have no idea. But it is more likely that they have similar personalities, but not as similar as Naruto and Yondaime...

4. I think Naruto knows Yondaime is his father. He looks nostalgically at the statue of Yondaime once, and again, this foreshadows a lot... again... plot devices. Do you think a trained artist and writer like Kishimoto is not going to utilize these techniques? Think again, lol...

Everyone is thinking to much on this to get the true picture of it. Everyone wants to try to think that 1 million babys are born a day in Konoha, and that Yondy could have chosen any one of them. But thats not how it rolls. Also, i believe they mentioned at some point that he was late to arrive to the Kyuubi scene? Its not like he didnt notice it... it was eating half his village. And the cord was JUST being cut. How much time do you think that death jutsu gives the user after its been used? Not long. He had to know where there was gonna be a new born before he even used it. Or he woulda just died looking for one, and Kyuubi woulda came out all over again.

My opinion? Yondy is Narutos dad. Simply said, Yondy was with his wife while she was in labor when Kyuubi attacked, in a sound proof safe and secure room. He couldnt hear or tell Kyuubi was attacking. Some one comes and finds him, warns him of the danger, and he leaves BEFORE his son is born. Heads out to Kyuubi, summons a toad, and takes his Chakra-filled a__ for a ride. Now, knowing his son was soon to be born, and knowing he had no time and that he had to seal Kyuubi in a child that was just born or not born yet, he has Gama or some one else take him to his child. He puts Kyuubi in his kid just as they cut the cord, and then places a seal on him with the last of his life and Chakra. He dies before Naruto is named, as did the woman who died through grief of her loss and the stress all at once. He has no name, but a swirl on his stomach. Naruto, if im now wrong, means spiral, or swirl. And theres also an ingredient in Ramen named that? Maybe Yondy liked Ramen alot too, and in honor of the swirl, and the things Yondy loved, they named him Naruto.

Simply said, he didnt have a choice. He was running out of life. He knew only one resort to save his town, and that was giving his family up. And he knew only one resort to save his family. Giving his life.

***Naruto is the son of Yondaime. 100%***

Evanesque
06-15-2007, 08:24 PM
I can just say hands down that Yodaime is Naruto's father....period.

KGT summed it up pretty well, I guess ^
XD

DatLatina!
06-15-2007, 11:26 PM
yondaime is naruto's father its so obvious its not even funy cause almost every1 knows that unless their slow then thats a lil bit sad...no offenese 2 some ppl just tryin 2 prove a point here

.Rik-uh-shey
06-15-2007, 11:49 PM
NO!!! Obito is Naruto's father! just like Obito is Tobi and Obito is the leader of the Akatsuki!

DatLatina!
06-15-2007, 11:50 PM
wtf?!?!

.Rik-uh-shey
06-16-2007, 12:06 AM
im making fun of all the Obito rumors

DatLatina!
06-16-2007, 12:07 AM
O.o im so stoopid

kenicchi
06-16-2007, 08:56 PM
this thread was jus made to fool around about who his dad is, (yes, i know it is yondaime) but ppl are flying around makin more rumors, so i think the thread was made jus to make fun of rumors, lol, i mean some of our theories involved chuck norris and bruce willis :p

Kuroi Getsuga Tenshou
06-16-2007, 10:12 PM
I think he knows tha Yondaime is his father remebered how mad he became when Tsunade was bathmouthing the Hokages and espescially th e Fourth...

DatLatina!
06-17-2007, 02:09 AM
my friends dad is Naruto's father

kenicchi
06-17-2007, 03:34 AM
no way, wait...:eek13: werent u the mother?.. thats a little creepy

DatLatina!
06-18-2007, 09:09 PM
im his godmother im not his biological mother....and my friend is my father so he asked me 2 take care of him

kenicchi
06-19-2007, 02:18 PM
ic ic, now everything makes sense!

Undying
06-19-2007, 03:35 PM
Everyone who spams in this thread: this is your one and only warning. If I see anymore spam in this thread, disciplinary action will be taken.

Kuroi Getsuga Tenshou
06-19-2007, 10:06 PM
One would logically asume that Yondaime is his father simply by either watching or reading Naruto Anime/Manga......were just waiting for a *Confirmation*...that's all there is to it!

kenicchi
06-20-2007, 02:21 PM
true, if it were anyone else, that would jus throw the entire fandom off, i'd think even kishi would be confused if he made anyone else the father.

DatLatina!
06-21-2007, 11:40 PM
Ok it is so obivious that Yondaime is is father

Juujika
06-22-2007, 06:08 PM
naruto's parents are dead bacause naruto is the 4th in child form

DatLatina!
06-23-2007, 12:06 AM
that would be weird if that was true i mean naruto being the yung verision of yondaime....that could b true tho

kenicchi
06-23-2007, 01:25 PM
yeah thats another theory that could work, i would actually like that more

Juujika
06-23-2007, 06:54 PM
yeah thats another theory that could work, i would actually like that more
only problem about that theory is naruto has only produce potiental in one area where the 4th had potiental in almost all areas.

kenicchi
06-24-2007, 04:02 AM
true, but u can make up a reason for that though, like, merging with the kyubi screwed up his ability to do much... (i know, not much, but its late here)

Kuroi Getsuga Tenshou
06-24-2007, 09:43 PM
I can't agree with that theory, because before *The Fourth* died he told everybody to not view Naruto as a Monster but as a hero who saved his village....now *The Fourth* being who he was...wouldn't have said that about himself? there are so many points that contradicts that Theory I don't even wanna mention them because I already debated this at NarutoFan.com Forums that Debate is till going on and it began in late 2006......I really don't want this to happen in this forum..

Tobi
06-25-2007, 06:20 PM
4th is Naruto's brother, Naruto's mother is an ordinary Ninja and Chuck Norris is Naruto's father.