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Vampircia

02-09-2007, 11:53 AM

I'm writing about this because there's something what really gets on my nerves. Every time I show people some pics with half-naked men they say it's gay (and most people think gay=wrong, even though I don't agree with that, but it's not the point) or they find it disturbing, even though there's nothing pornographic in this pictures. At the same time, if you post a pic of half-naked woman (or even fully naked) people see it as something normal, nice and have nothing against it. For me it's just plain sexism. So it's ok to show a woman as an object of sexual desire, but when you show a man like that it's automatically considered as something wrong and gay, like only gay people would like to watch male's body? Sorry to tell you this guys, but it's not 19th century where women should be interested only in their husbands. We have needs to, y'know. And we like sexy pics and photos of guys (at least some of us), and calling them "gay" is very ignorant, because many of them are in fact directed to girls, and don't contain any 'gay' stuff. Yeah, I know that for men is difficult to accept the fact that they can be reduced to the object of someone else's lust, that they're not "hunters" anymore, that sometimes they become a "prey". But don't consider it as a dishonor for your masculinity. I don't think it makes you less masculine, actually I like that (and I know many girls who likes it too). So please, stop calling 'gay' everything which shows men from the sexual point of view. And I hope you don't feel offended. I like you, guys, I know most of you are nice, just reconsider a few things:face82:

I hope, I posted it in the proper section:eek13:

l'irrépressible

02-09-2007, 12:55 PM

Uhhh. Sorry, but it wasn't about Hirako Shinji being half-naked. It was about his pose on the blanket. CROSSING his legs. LICKING ice-cream. You know, licking? Crossing legs? Sorry if you disagree but manly males do not cross their legs while lying down like that. That pose spells gay. And the Japanese words on the fan art was very provocative. Gay-implied. I have nothing against gays. But just like homosexual guys do not like being mistaken as heterosexuals, heterosexual guys like Hirako being portrayed in a homosexual art is disturbing to guys like me.

Hell I have seen Kurosaki half naked all the time in Bleach. Madarame, Abarai, and a whole host of other men in Bleach, not to mention Zaraki have gone half-naked most of the times. They show their middle guts down. Like Urahara. I don't call them gay..... girls can slobber at men who are naked, I don't care.

It's not about the 'half-nakedness' or 'full nakedness'. It's about how they pose in the fanarts, pics, and the text (if any) that comes with the pics.

Besides I go half naked all the time on the beach and at home. My brothers don't call me gay.

EDIT: It's fine if you are saying girls need gay men art. Then I really do apologise for not sharing the same passion. :P

Vladimir

02-09-2007, 12:57 PM

Vampircia

02-09-2007, 01:01 PM

It's not about this one particular pic. It happened before that I posted pics of sexy guys and it was considered gay. What the hell the pose have to do with anything? Males can't look seductive? I don't get it. I have an impression that most people think sexy guy = gay guy. Because I really have no idea what's gay about crossing your legs while lying or making a sexy pose.

Mighty Aramir

02-09-2007, 01:04 PM

well. in my opinion: Its your choice whether you watch a half-naked, fully-naked, or completely hardcore-porn guy, i know im not gonna llok at it! And if you like it then everyone, no exceptions must respect that, and i understand the ammount of sexism represented, its considered normal for a guy to have naked womans, all over his room (in posters of course)... But a girl barely has a bare chested guy, and its already bad, she is considered sluthy and all....
Well, thats just plain dumb, equality should be favored, and also liberty, you have the right to watch whatever you want, and no one can judge you for that...

Vampircia

02-09-2007, 01:09 PM

That's exactly what I mean. That people still can't understand that girls also have a right to watch things like that, that it's not only for gay dudes. I'll give you an example. My friend has a lot of photos of j-rockers on her computer. Not porn at all, just some sexy guys, and when her friend found out about this he called her a pervert><

Mighty Aramir

02-09-2007, 01:13 PM

its not pervy... i have a lot of my fav female singers in here XD
Anyways, my gf enjoys beauty, as simple as that, so do i, we can enojy a moon together, a sunset, when we're walking she can see a pic or a guy, and with all confidence she tells me, that guy is sexy, i have no need of feeling jealous, and most of those comments are born from jealousy, the manly idea that if something its better than them, he should be demonized, and being treated as worst in order for it to stop being a competence, just to have the feeling of superiority...
Fortunately, im not like that ^^

Vladimir

02-09-2007, 01:17 PM

guys have models to right ?! so what makes a half photo naked guys a gay ? why do some people have a mind that is so narrow . looking at thing only in one perspective . it is just photos of guys . whats the big deal of it ? girls have the right to see whatever photos they want . there's no need to feel jealous of it . it's just a photo .

Vampircia

02-09-2007, 01:30 PM

Well, I'm happy that you think so:) But there are still many people who are very sexist (and I'm not talking about anyone in particular, actually people on this forum are ok, and didn't have bigger problems with that). I didn't create this thread only to complain about the 'accident with a pic' because it's not a big deal, but about this stuff in general. I'll give you far more controversial example about people's unfairness. In one reality show in my country there was a girl who had sex with a guy in the bath tube, in front of cameras. And after that everyone started calling her a slut, a whore, she was mocked in TV etc. And from that time no one has ever mentioned anything about the guy who had sex with her. Like it was totally ok and normal for him to do it, even though he did exactly the same thing. Of course I don't approve what they did, but why the hell the girl was cursed by the society after that, and the guy could easily get away with it? It really makes me sick.

Mighty Aramir

02-09-2007, 01:34 PM

Cause thats how society responds, if your a guya and are a promiscuos bastard, you're alright, even praised... But if you're a female, and enjoy sex, well.... then you're a nymphomaniac prostitute...

And that is fu**ed up...

l'irrépressible

02-09-2007, 06:10 PM

No, my problem isn't with half naked guys or full naked guys in general.

My problem is in their pose (the particular Shinji one). Sexy guys, ok maybe women have their own definition of 'sexy guys', I don't know but if I see naked girls posing in a way that suggest homosexuality i.e. lesbians, I would say the same thing.

It's not about me having anything against homosexuals at all. I don't. But some pictures are posed in such a way that they just *look* homosexual (specifically the ice cream Shinji crossing his legs one you posted) and I am just giving an honest feedback.

Since you specifically posted the link to this thread in the Shinji FC after I noted about how gay Shinji looked in that fanart, I assumed you directed the link at me.

I have no problem at all if my sister has naked pictures of men plastered on her wall, and I don't care if she reads men porn. I honestly don't think that is considered gay at all. However me not having a problem with these doesn't mean my parents won't have any problems with them. It's a matter of outlook, isn't it? o.O

I still am saying that the pic of Shinji looks gay. It may not be to you, but again it could be to other people. I'm sure some girls will also agree with it, not just guys, and definitely not an issue about sexism.

EDIT: Parents can't be considered as 'sexists' if they disallow their daughters to read men porn. Or sons reading girl porn magazines... Unless those parents are like super liberals or something.

Vampircia

02-09-2007, 06:34 PM

jertuyq: I have nothing against you personally. And I didn't create this thread to complain about your comment. The true is you somehow reminded mi about this issue. But it's not like I think you're a sexist or anything like that. It just let me think about all these bigger problems. And I respect your opinion. The problem is that it really irritates me when I can't post a pic like that without getting unpleasant remarks, because I know that if I posted a same pic with a girl everyone would be happy, and no one would complain. And that's what irritates me.

SoundWave

02-09-2007, 06:59 PM

I dunno if this a deabte anymore, since everyone seems to agree..

But I might aswell say what I think...

Imo ppl may look at whatever shizz they want to, I have no problem with it.. But dun go showing me pics of half-naked guys.. I would probably respond with the word "gay".. It's just a word I chose to use in lack of a better vocabulary I guess. I could use another word, but why should that matter, cuz my intention is not to insinuate anything insulting towards anyone.. It's just something I prefer to not look at.. Call me immature.. ( I already know I am) ;).. hahaha

This could be moved to the lounge, would be more fitting I guess.. for ppl to share their views on the subject.

Vampircia

02-09-2007, 07:11 PM

hasuke

02-09-2007, 07:12 PM

but it's not 19th century where women should be interested only in their husbands. <-- If I'm married the ***** better not be looking at other men like sex objects, lest I burn her ****ing eyes out.

I don't get what guys being bugged by naked men pictures on the forums they go to has to do with being sexist. You chicks fly the **** off the handle when we guys have a half naked girl in our sigs and stuff.

Example: I had a sig that had a naked girl. You did NOT see below her waist, and she was covering her chest. I got so many PMs, and many mods told me "REMOVE THAT SIG" so I made a more graphic one to protest.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c119/haruharahamachi/Forum%20Signatures/EminaSig3.jpg

There it is, for reference.
So basically, if you can throw fits about images like that, we should be able to throw fits about your stuff.

I personally don't give a flying shit what people post, unless they're those rabid yaoi fan*****es who shove their literal, blatant gay sex in your face and call you close minded when you say you're not fond of two dudes porking each other being plastered on your computer monitor.

But this doesn't sound like it has to do with any gay porn, so whatever. Ignore what people say. Thats what I do when psycho chicks call me a pervert and a horndog for having girls with big boobs/half naked bods in my sigs.

Vampircia

02-09-2007, 07:19 PM

Believe me, I hate some crazy yaoi fangirls, the same why I hate sexism. And I've never ever complaint about pics with naked girls or sigs like that. Never. That's why I hate when people complain about my stuff.

SoundWave

02-09-2007, 07:29 PM

The question is why people think it's gayO_o? Lets make an experiment. Tell me do you consider this pic gay (because I had some unpleasant remarks about this pic in different forum):
http://www.badluck.republika.pl/Obrazki/05.jpg
And if you consider it gay tell me why do you think so, because it's just two guys looking sexy.
Yare yare.. seems like I got it wrong..

Why they think it's gay? Then that's a whole different story from person to person.. I haven't cared that much about it. Guess guys are too afraid of their woman looking at other guys and they can't quite meet the standards themselves. So they ridicule her for looking at "sexy guys" out of jealousy to make her stop or something..

That pic ain't that repulsive now is it?. .. those tight leather pants gotta be very upleasant though.. xD

Silhouette

02-09-2007, 08:18 PM

Ok, consider this.

You're a straight female I assume? What if a group of guys randomly walked up to you with nude female pics, and waved them infront of your face? What if they started drooling over them, and making "inappropriate"(sp?) comments towards them?

You wouldn't like that, right?

It is natural for straight guys to NOT want to see other guys naked. Its common sense actually. Same goes for straight females with naked females...although girls are more...free(?) with it. They seem to not mind seeing other females nude. Guys on the other hand, don't want to see each other naked.. I know I don't.

The porn industry it dominated by women, which is why you'll find more nude females than males. And also, sex sells. All people think about is money and sex. What better way to gain money, then through sex? Just so happens that there are more guys willing to spend money to see nude females than there are females willing to pay to see nude males.

In short; sure, women have needs and rights. But, at the same time, don't flash nude dude pics infront of straight guys, and expect them to love it.

Vampircia

02-09-2007, 08:54 PM

EndlessSky

02-09-2007, 10:18 PM

The only thing I have to say is, If women want equal rights as men, they better be prepared to have it go both ways. Like for example on the Titantic, when all the women and children were the first ones to get off on the life boats. If woman want the same rights as man they better be prepared to stay on the boat and die too. If you understand what I'm saying. Not to go easy on them because their women and such or give them any special beneifts because hey you want to be equal your gonna be equal.

Also, I think all women should read this quote by marylin monroe

"I don't mind living in a mans world, if I can be a woman in it"

XV Barixn

02-09-2007, 10:40 PM

Angel_shikigami

02-09-2007, 11:16 PM

Huh? Who were you talking to? Everyone I know (Exept for straght guys) Would be all "That's sexy!" and even the straght men would look at and be "Yeah, so? It's a dude." and wouldn't critcize it. If you said something like "Would you make out with them?" Of couse they'd call it "gay".

dragoneyes001

02-10-2007, 03:11 AM

you do realize the majority of the people your engaging are teens some very young many are still discovering their sexuality or about to. unfortunately this also brings forth many of the stereotypes that they have as their only source on sexuality. add to this that the TEEN WORD OF THE DAY happens to be "GAY"
basically anything outside their tinny experience or anything contrary to what they happen to like becomes "GAY" and that has little to nothing to do with a half naked mans picture or anything in particular for that matter just the only way they know how to express their discomfort or dislike for a subject.

in effect the people who use GAY as a descriptive outside of its real context are simply broadcasting just how sexually immature they are. and in most cases are scared crap-less of themselves being homosexual so they lash out at anything that may even remotely be connected to homosexual behavior.

l'irrépressible

02-10-2007, 06:36 AM

I know that if I posted a same pic with a girl everyone would be happy, and no one would complain. And that's what irritates me.

You see that's where the difference between men and women come from. There's no such thing as absolute equality. Do guys prefer to see girls in a masculine pose, or a feminine pose? Girls posing femininely is no problem. Girls posing masculinely is not for everyone. (You will see some people like it, some people don't. That's why many people here can hate Rukia just because she's not feminine enough). How do you call these people? Immature? Then everyone at one point is immature for just saying "geez that is gay" or "shit, she's not busty enough."

It's the same thing for guys. Guys posing masculinely (half naked, full naked, I don't care), no problem. Guys posing shyly like a girl? It'll definitely earn a comment "That's gay" from a lot of people.

Everyone have their needs, okay. But in the end, not everyone's needs are the same.

Vampircia

02-10-2007, 08:24 AM

But still I can't be the way society wants me to be, because then it wouldn't be me anymore. There's no such thing as absolute equality? Of course there's not, because then it would be communism. And I experienced communism, and I don't want it back. But still I want to fight with stereotypes. When I meet with guys I always shake hands with them. Those who know me are used to that, but strangers look at me like at some kind of weirdo. Because where I live it's not normal for girl to shake hands with guysO_o And I want to be treated equally. And how many times did I pay for a guy when I was on a date? Many times. And I think there's nothing wrong with it.

greenmoon666

02-10-2007, 08:39 AM

I understand there is no gender equality in this world. I'm very realistic abot all that.
But wouldn't it be nice if there was such thing as "gender respect & tolerance"?
Women should be alowed to enjoy the same erotic teasers as men do. Men like to see girls make out, so why not respect the fact that some girls like to see guys make out? :biggrinlo

Helikaon

02-10-2007, 09:49 AM

people have wrong understanding of this. yea looking at half naked guys photos are not gay . women are human they are not toys for men to satisfied sexual desires . man have to know this . women should be respected of who they are . i never look at this kind of photos but i know that man sometimes have different understanding of some issues like this .

Please do not generalise this as an "all men" issue, because that would be ignorant thinking. I for one dont care. My girlfriend is a member of the Yaoi club, you dont see me objecting. Please dont go all feminist on me and say that all men think women are toys and give women no rights because that is now not a gender issue but a specific person issue. Other than that.. continue your discussion.

EDIT: and if you really want to go into the stereotypes.. Men are stereotyped too. We have to be strong, we have to know about cars, we have to be stupid. Just look at TV, which man in a comedy is smart?. But do I care about such stupid stereostyping no.. just show the world that what they say isnt the truth. If your going to sit on a forum and complain you might aswell go out with signs to the next feminist rally.

l'irrépressible

02-12-2007, 06:14 PM

>_<

I still think you're taking things too seriously. Period. How 'gay' or how 'sexy' a man (or a woman) is in the eyes of the beholder.

If I were to go back into the initial topic of Hirako Shinji lying on a picnic blanket half naked with his boxers on, hell I don't care. But crossing his legs and licking ice cream with words like "bochi bochi mitsuketta" or something similar is really really gay. Not that I care, but I just want to say I think my initial comment of "that is a gay pic" still applies.

I guess I'm done with this topic. >_<

EndlessSky

02-12-2007, 09:10 PM

I personally think being gay is wrong, and is a mental illness or something, its just not natural, and don't see why these days we are accepting such behavior. Even so, I dont hate gay people or anything, its similar to somebody that smokes, I don't approve of it but not gonna take personally and stuff if you understand what im saying.

Also, I don't see what is so wrong with women acting very femimine and stuff. Whats so wrong with a woman cooking for her husband and stuff while he is out working? It doesn't make her less of a person or anything.

Vampircia

02-12-2007, 09:18 PM

Shinomori

02-12-2007, 10:39 PM

I've never said it does. Actually there was nothing mentioned about women behaving feminine. By the way human world is not very natural, so if you say that something is wrong because it's not natural that means you consider your life wrong, because you are using a computer right now, and as far as I'm concerned computers (and cars, and fast-food, and clothes, and nearly everything in our lives) is not natural.

By that same logic, making spears and houses was unnatural too.

Face it, your existence right now is unnatural at its most fundamental levels.

As for the main topic...society's perception is that the male has to demonstrate that he's the "alpha" male. And the "alpha" male is the one who gets to sex up all the females, y'know? That's how it is in most animal specie - the leader gets their pick of who they want. There's a deep-seated stereotype that goes back to our days as sub-human creatures that males are SUPPOSED to act like "players" to show off how masculine they are. Granted, everyone's got their own ways (pissing contests, literally), but it's human nature.

And the opposite side of the coin is that females are expected to take it. Most (not all, don't bother pointing out exceptions) animal societies have a male as the head of the unit. And they get to pick.

Fundamental nature, ingrained by countless millennia of structure, is not easily changed.

EndlessSky

02-13-2007, 02:17 AM

Thats not what I mean by not natural, and no where did I say it was wrong because its not natural, all I said is I think it is wrong, a mental illness, and that it is un natural to me... I should of said not normal, healthy, behavior....

Then again, you could argue that everything we have is created from substances in nature in the most basic sense (you have to combine existing substances to make man-man made ones), and that nature has more advanced machines than yes even us superior humans have created. The brain is the most complex computer and there have been found very advanced effective machines in single celled organisms.

So, I guess its okay to be a mental patient too and we should just accept them into our soceity. After all just because their different doesn't mean there is anything wrong with them. (Just to put this in context for you people, I'm saying different in that is not functioning the way it is suppose to function which is making it different by functioning differently than the correct way.

Okay, we got that estasblished. Now why would being gay be a incorrect way to function? Well, the sexual organs are their to reproduce, and we are given insentives to make us do this by making it a very pleasurable experience, but utlimately it is for the purpose to reproduce, and we are given whatever in our bodies to make us attracted to the opposite sex so that we will reproduce. Now then you have the same sex being attracted to each other for sexual acitivy to reproduce, would you not say they are not functioning correctly? as it is for the purpose to reproduce with the oppostie sex?

Then you could argue well they are just doing it for pleasure, but wait a mintue if they even are thinking of getting pleasure with each other sexually with the same sex, isn't that not functioning right? when it is suppose to be attracted to the opposite sex for pleasure and to reproduce?

Despite these facts, do you still say being gay is a correct behavior of the human body?

Vampircia

02-13-2007, 06:27 AM

I don't care if it's a correct behaviour or not. You know why? Because I believe that when something makes people happy, and don't hurt others it's alright. Nowdays people consider every single act of being 'not normal' as a mental illness. Please spare me. People have a right to be the way they want as long as it doesn't hurt anyone. And please don't tell me that homosexuality hurts someone (well, it does, when people mock you and won't let you live like a normal human being because you're "different"), because it's a bullshit. There are a lot of things I don't like, and I have to live with them, because that's the price of freedom.

EndlessSky

02-13-2007, 10:06 PM

That is not the issue, all I am saying is why I think it is incorrect behavior. I said nothing about hating them or anything. I also even stated I personally have nothing against them in a previous post.

Doing illegal drugs makes people happy too, but it doesn't do any good to them now does it? Not all people that do illegal drugs hurt others but themselves either, but its still not good for them. (No, im not saying gay is like doing illegal drugs, just stating that just because it makes you happy doesn't mean its nesscarliy good or right for you)

All I am saying is their bodies are not functioning right, and that we should help them instead of just accepting them acting like this, and people these days are too worried about offending others than actually speaking their mind and true beliefs.

Also if you live with things you don't like and all because its the price of freedom, then you should respect and live with my opinion, as I am yours.

Nothing, makes you or me, right or wrong, because it is only the thought, that makes it so.

Vampircia

02-14-2007, 09:08 AM

You want to "cure" homosexuals? You can't change someone's preferences. If it were possible people would have already done this. I'll tell you something. My friend new one gay dude who was a catholic, and he really didn't want to be gay because of that. So he went to the clinic or something, were they were supposed to "cure" him. Of course they didn't, and what's more he came back in a deep depression.

And yes, I can live with people having different opinion. Many of my friends are homophobes, and I don't care. Actually I respect people who have their own opinion, but it's a thread in debates section so we're supposed to have a debate;) By the way I think we have made a huge offtopic. So to finish it. You think it's incorrect behavior and this poor people should be "cured". Fine, I know I won't convince you, and to be honest I don't care, because I know plenty of people like you. But I also can't be convinced, because then I would have to "cure" myself as well, because I do many "incorrect" things (which I won't list here). So... I guess it was a discussion about sexism and stuff:P

EndlessSky

02-16-2007, 12:34 AM

You are still not understanding what I mean by incorrect. I am saying their body functions incorrectly and thats why they have this behavior, I don't think it is a preference. Can you decide which tastes you like or dislike? No. It is hard to describe what I am trying to get across to you.

Just, because WE can't cure it yet, doesn't mean its uncurable, there are many things that are curable today that weren't many years ago. I'm just putting this fact on the table, im not saying being gay can be cured or will be cured. I'm just saying if it is a result of the body not functioning like it should in terms of like the digestive system not digesting right. I mean we know that we have chemicals in the body that make us attracted to the oppostie sex to reproduce. its just logical to me that, they aren't functioning right and we could possibly help fix this.

Also the "incorrect" things you do aren't the same context of what i mean, thats like saying if your thoart or lungs weren't working right, you wouldn't fix them because you don't think its the right thing to do or whatever, thats the kind of context i mean.

And, please, don't say "I know alot of people like you" and stamp labels on me. It kinda insults me, honestly, makes me feel bad when you say that kind of stuff. I mean, I don't know you at all, and you don't know me or my personality,etc. I would just like to keep this a friendly debate, between two ideas, thats all.

Yea, we should probably get back on topic, but in a way this has something to do with, since we got here in the first place. Also not many people have been really "debating" much in this lately. :P

Aristocrat

02-16-2007, 09:03 AM

To be honest, I'm bisexual, so if "a group of guys randomly walked up to me with nude female pics, and waved them in front of my face" I would probably have nothing against it, because I watch this kind of stuff myself. And from the beginning of this thread I didn't say anything about showing pics of nude girls being wrong. I said it's not fair that people consider wrong pics with nude guys. I don't expect males to like them, really. I don't even care if they like them or not. I only wish they didn't call them gay, because it's very stereotypical.

ur bi? im sorry but i consider them to be greedy because they cant choose whether or not there gay or straight..its like its an unfinished answer..i mean if i asked you would u prefer girls over guys what would you say?

anyways back to topic..its called common sense..i mean unless that guy was gay HE wouldnt consider that picture sexy..but he would prolly consider it gross and sickening i on the other hand was drooling over that picture..but enough about me..if a guy was waving a perveted pic of a chic id get disgusted..

dragoneyes001

02-21-2007, 01:27 AM

ur bi? im sorry but i consider them to be greedy because they cant choose whether or not there gay or straight..its like its an unfinished answer..i mean if i asked you would u prefer girls over guys what would you say?
anyways back to topic..its called common sense..i mean unless that guy was gay HE wouldnt consider that picture sexy..but he would prolly consider it gross and sickening i on the other hand was drooling over that picture..but enough about me..if a guy was waving a perveted pic of a chic id get disgusted..

it doesn't take a perverted pic.

look at your three sig's all three have what could be called suggestive poses by the girls depicted the demure look the big doe eyes and a top down shot.

all three have a common level of sexuality in them built up by decades of advertisement tricks to get attention although none are explicit they all have the elements needed to be called sexy poses.

whats worse is the age portrayed by the anime girls none are adult yet its considered perfectly fine to have young girls in poses that are known to attract attention.

A2k

02-21-2007, 03:08 AM

Also not many people have been really "debating" much in this lately. :P

Quite possibly because it isn't a proper debate?

I'll end your debate for you if you like? Since some of the "debating" that has gone on in this thread, quite frankly disgusts me.

Neve

02-21-2007, 10:46 AM

Yah, A2k is right, and I apologise for not dealing with it earlier, but there's no actual debating going on here.

/moved to growing up

A2k

02-21-2007, 12:39 PM

No need to appologise Neve =)

I just didn't want to step on your toes. ^-^

Rapt0r

02-24-2007, 02:03 PM

Well im my perspective *if ne1 gives a crap :Haha * is that Guys and girls like to see different things. FOr example i dont think a girl would want to see another pic of a girl, they want to see pics of guys*well if its for like fashion or something*And when we want to see something that'll catch our eye, we dont wanna look at guy pics if u know what i mean. To me if some1 doesnt like gays, then they have to stop and think *what is it about their behavior that for some reason makes me mad* Personally gays are cool to me as long as they respect the boundary of me being straight :redbiggri

-Rap

LilCandyPop

03-03-2007, 01:22 AM

i think one of my friends is lesbians. i said to her 'i dont care if ur lesbian as long as u dont crack onto me o.O'

so what does she do to me and shannen(best friend) she cracks onto us -_-

Harley Quinn

05-22-2007, 03:14 AM

@vamp Thats not gay, thats hot!Sorry about the lack of response to this subject but I can't be botherd as I am more interested in drooling over pic.Just one thing,it's not just women who have needs, it's the gay community too.*goes back to perving at the pic*
By the way this is in response to the pic on the first page.

Rukia's Angel

05-22-2007, 09:10 AM

That pic that had Renji was yummy indeed. *Giggles* I'm a gay,. so for me, it's all good.

I think there's nothing wrong with homosexuality, and quite honestly, I think religion shaped up alot of people's views on it. (Religious or not)

Twinky

05-22-2007, 11:46 AM

It really depends, theres a different between looking at half naked guy's pic, and stareing at it for more than a cuple minutes. but the general society consider gay a disturbing thing, not wrong- althou some people see it as wrong. gay people act one way, and most of the time you can identify them quite easily.
and yes crossing your legs and licking stuff is considered gay. manly men dont do that. theres always a line that define between gay and nongay, some see it some dont.

Anubisrage

05-22-2007, 08:58 PM

I wouldnt consider a pic of a naked guy 'gay'...
I would think of it as porn for girls...
I would on the other hand consider a pic of a guy in a typical feminine position while naked gay...

Guilder

05-22-2007, 09:10 PM

Well it's called an Oppinion really. Some will think Naked guy pics are gay. Some won't. I'v never looked at neither and damn proud of it too.

But you are right, Women are not toys for sexual pleasure of men, And many many men don't seem to understand it or atleast to an extent. I believe if you have to look at every naked pic of a girl then your desperate, especially if you have a girl already. If more men could be understandable and not completely bent on Testosterone then Society can be much better. Not saying most guys HERE have this "Problem" buuuuut, Who knows? I aint gonna bother looking for all the guys who have to constantly look at naked ladies.