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Guy
02-25-2007, 01:40 AM
OK, I know the title sounds stupid, which is why I'm posting it under informal debates, but I'm really curious about everyone else's opinions.

I am young, and will be going to college in two years. Frankly, I don't see what's so good about being young. My parents, and virtually every adult that I know, always long for the days of youth. I don't understand why. The only good thing about being young that I can think of is that you are healthier.

You are in a lawsuit that could cause you to lose a million dollars. Who would you rather hire, a young lawyer with no experience, or an experienced lawyer who has been on the job for decades?

You are in a hospital, and need a surgery that could cost you your life. Who would you want the doctor to be; a surgeon fresh out of medical school, or an experienced doctor who has saved many lives before?

And once you hit retirement age, you won't have to work anymore, and the government even has to pay you!

Being young is hard because you've got schools to go to, researches to study, crappy part-time jobs to attend, and the world that jeers at you for being inexperience.

Anyone agree/disagree?

Sky
02-25-2007, 03:12 AM
Hmmm....? You know being young is hard. But when you're young you have free time and besides test and school work you have no other worries. While I'm still young myself, I do sometimes wish I was sixteen again. All I had to worry about at sixteen is paying my phone bill.

So people wish for the less worries they have when they were younger. Yea, if I could have all the experience I have now, and be young. I'd try it again. If only to reduce the stress.

Guy
02-25-2007, 03:36 AM
Yeah, that's basically what I complain about being young. Too much stress, too much studying to do. If you can have the health of someone young, but the experience of someone old, that would be awesome.

Sky
02-25-2007, 04:46 AM
Yea, well if you're stress as most aspiring students are, then it won't get any easier when you get older. People want to be younger, but know that even though they're stress. People always want what they cannont obtain.

Grimpost
02-25-2007, 04:47 AM
Yeah, that's basically what I complain about being young. Too much stress, too much studying to do. If you can have the health of someone young, but the experience of someone old, that would be awesome.
Things don't get a lot more complicated. You have school and a part time job right? Well try having a Full time job and school. You have bills and bosses. Not to mention when you get married. I have a wife and I love her to death but just having another person so close to me I have to consider her ahead of myself most of the time.

While being young was no party for me I do remember a large Fun/work ratio. Now it's more Work/fun. I'm not even old (24). But you just get more and more work. God forbid I have kids any time soon.:sad There is an up side in getting older but just enjoy what you have while you have it.

Seriously. There is no reason for you to be ready to start a serious life when you still have so many years ahead. Remember the best part of experience is getting it.

Not to mention that Social Security is looking like a big flop before I can get it. Ugh!

VampyreLord
02-25-2007, 10:26 AM
I bet you anything you won't be asking this in 50 years time...

/moved to Growing Up

Vladimir
02-25-2007, 10:51 AM
being young is not that bad . uu are free to do anything . being a student is the best . uu don't havta work and think abt paying bills except hp bills . uu have a the freedom to do something . when uu start to work all the burdens of paying and supporting pops out . uu cannot do things u love to cuz uu are too bz . so it's not that bad being young . uu can do this young people do .

sham16
02-25-2007, 11:42 AM
This is going to be a long one... But there are lessons in it... Read it and comment if you like...

Remember that we always try to be what we are not... We would never be satisfied for what we are.. We always want to get what we dont have...

These are the things that a normal human being wants to have each day... things that they dont have...

Ok now so my points for this thread is this:

As for people who aim to be young when they are old is that:

1. They are getting old and old each they.. They fear that one day their body will fail them and would not be able to get up after sleep.. It is because that they are old... Either they would have a lot of sickness or they are too old already that they are just waiting to be brought to a better place....

2. They want to do what they used to do.... When you get old you are always doing the same thing everyday.. Go to work, Eat, sleep, go to work, eat, sleep and often times you would go to a party or anything that would take your head off your problems... But when you were a child you had this and more.. you could be happy go lucky when where a child you can go to a party and go wild... If you get in trouble your parents can bail you out of it... But if you are the parent, who would bail you out? and plus how would it look like if an old person would be dancing around like crazy...

3. Insecurities, in a sense that they might not have been able to accomplish something... So if they were still young they would be able to accomplish it if they had failed...

4. Stress... Being in the adult world there are a lot of stress... Not that i am saying that being in the life of a young person does not have stress but being an adult is having more stress and responsiblities than of a younger person... As a kid your stress would be: How to get along with you friends or grades... But as for an adult the stressors would be money, job, social status, and a lot more... So in short the stressors as an adult outwiegh the stress of a younger individual...

And as for young people who want to get old..

1. They are being neglected their opinions are not of any wieght to the society and they would not be taken seriously..

2. They are already tired of going to school... They want to have money in order for them to be able to do what they want.. and maybe this will eb the answer for having no weight in your opinions... If you have money you would not be taken lightly. even if you are young..

3. The irritations of parents.. Being a kid means that you must abide to the laws of the world and the laws of your parents... So those are additional laws in which you would have to follow so more problems. for you...

4. And last but not least the problems of growing up... There are a lot of kids who say... "I might not be growing up right" or "I dont think i dont have the right this and right that" So yeah growing up would be really tough for an idividual.... So this would point out the reason why kids want to grow up faster, inorder for them to skip this phase in life and just go straight to a more stable life... Or so they thought..

So yeah we cannot tell that what we want is what we really want... It is just sometimes a flavor of the month in which we try to have a little of this and a little of that... So my answer is for me being young is not overrated.. You would have a plenty of time to grow old.. enjoy your life to the fullest and dont let anyone stop you from being who you are... Becuase if you let them you would regret it for the rest of your life....

Wow this is a long one... The longest one ive ever written in this website... Hope you got something out of this...

Kray
02-25-2007, 10:05 PM
30 years down the road - you'll be saying "I'll give anything for be 18 again" or whatever.

Your younger days are something you need to cherish, and soak up while you still can. You'll be in college - in fact, graduating from college before you even know it. I'm going to be a 3rd year college student come this Fall, and it feels like I just graduated High School. And yes, I would gladly go back in time to go back to high school, that was the BEST. College is great too, don't get me wrong.

Time goes by faster than you think. If you wanna be old, just go with the flow.
As far as I go, I take every day with a grain of salt, so to speak. I don't wanna get old! Haha.

Guy
02-26-2007, 12:19 AM
I bet you anything you won't be asking this in 50 years time...

/moved to Growing Up

LMAO! I guess I'm just taking being young for granted, right?

@everyone else: There are some good points that all of you made, but still, if you become a very successful doctor or CEO, etc, yeah, you'll still have stress, but aren't there so many benefits? When you're young, you would have to live in crappy, tiny dorms with god-knows-what-kind of roommate. When you're older and more successful, you get to buy the house of your dreams. There is no way a young person can buy a good house (unless he inherits a crap load of money).

Oh, but what I seriously missed was childhood years. THOSE were the best... but back on topic.

So is being young overrated? Or is it just better for me to shut up and enjoy things while I can?

sham16
02-26-2007, 01:33 AM
LMAO! I guess I'm just taking being young for granted, right?
@everyone else: There are some good points that all of you made, but still, if you become a very successful doctor or CEO, etc, yeah, you'll still have stress, but aren't there so many benefits? When you're young, you would have to live in crappy, tiny dorms with god-knows-what-kind of roommate. When you're older and more successful, you get to buy the house of your dreams. There is no way a young person can buy a good house (unless he inherits a crap load of money).
Oh, but what I seriously missed was childhood years. THOSE were the best... but back on topic.
So is being young overrated? Or is it just better for me to shut up and enjoy things while I can?


I was not saying that the stress of adulthood does not have its good side... Yeah you would have the house of you dreams, that flashy char... A beautiful wife when you go home... These are the things that you would get once you grow old... But this all came with a hefty price... You are what you are going to be because of what you did when you where young... Rememebr always that being young means being carefree, happy and all that stuff... I sad this because when you are young you can do things that are not right... I could not find the words for that, but you get what i mean... When you grow old you tend to be more strict and uptight... think of this.. Have you ever seen a 50 year old guy partying all night long in aa bar full of beautiful women??? I guess not,(some do we call them DOM = Dirty Old Men). SO yeah for me enjoy your youth to the fullest and dont let anyone stop you...


F.Y.I. i am not as old as you think I am, I am only 19 years old.... Yet this speech was given by my pops thats why i get to know it since i asked this question a lot... :Haha

:Domo

Guy
02-26-2007, 02:56 AM
Lol, good advice, but the only thing is, I'm not a party animal. I've never been to a teenage party my whole life (unless you count a karaoke party that anime club held). I'm more a reserved and reticent type person, so I wouldn't mind not being able to party anymore.

Kray
02-26-2007, 03:26 AM
Enjoy life when you are young.
Enjoy life when you are middle-aged.
Enjoy life when you are old.
Enjoy life, because it is far too short.

Enough said. xP

sham16
02-26-2007, 04:15 AM
Enjoy life when you are young.
Enjoy life when you are middle-aged.
Enjoy life when you are old.
Enjoy life, because it is far too short.

Enough said. xP


Could not have said it better myself...

Now your making me think of how i lost a lot of time making that whole speech when you can just sum it all up into these... ehehehe... But still it was in detail...

@guy Please dont be to conservative about yourself... Let loose a little life aint about computers and anime its just a form of a recreation.. The real world is out there and it is up to you to grab it.. Dont let time pass by you and just stay there.. Run wild, enjoy, be free be a kid.... Never let anyone stop you... When you get in trouble it is ok, you are a kid and all... ( or should i say we are kids... hmm anyway just dont get into trouble so much that you end up killing or raping someone...) Remember if you cant do it now when?? if you will not start it now then who??? The world is out there grab it and never let go... Amen

Another inspirational speech done... :headbang

But seriously follow my adivice.. You will be a kid only once.

Guy
02-26-2007, 04:18 AM
Nah, my childhood years ended. I'm 16 and will turn 17 in May. It's all about studying and getting into a prestigeous college for me right now.

When I say "young", I meant like 18 or older to like 35 or something. Of course I love my childhood years. Those days were the best...

sham16
02-26-2007, 04:26 AM
Nah, my childhood years ended. I'm 16 and will turn 17 in May. It's all about studying and getting into a prestigeous college for me right now.
When I say "young", I meant like 18 or older to like 35 or something. Of course I love my childhood years. Those days were the best...

at 16 or 17 you are still a kid.. heck im 19 and still everyone considers me a kid... So yeah as time goes by we would not differ from having fun but instead we are changing our definition of fun from toys... To toys for the big boys... As a said going to parties or just simply going out with friends is good.. It would boost both self esteem and as well as your social skills... and it may even boost up your social standings (if you are lacking in it)... 3 or four years ago... I kept to myself, pretty much a loner.. But some guy gave me this advice and never looked back since... So yeah try to have fun but keep it within limits that it would not affect your future in a bad way.

Guy
02-26-2007, 04:28 AM
Wow, I must be a social reject then. I spend my lunch time in the libraries studying instead of partying with friends. I guess that means I matured too quickly, eh?

sham16
02-26-2007, 04:35 AM
Wow, I must be a social reject then. I spend my lunch time in the libraries studying instead of partying with friends. I guess that means I matured too quickly, eh?

Omg now i didnt say that... You are what you think you are.. So if you say that you are that you must totaly try to change it... Also there are different kinds of fun that a person likes... As for me going out and meeting my mates are fun... It differs from person to person... And yeah you are from the US. and there are somewhat invisivible laws that somewhat prohibit you from talking to people that are of different intersts.. Like you and a jock a bit different right?? but still you must try your best to be able to mingle with as much different people as possible...

As for the maturity thing, yeah i was like that also.. I matured too much for my sake (since you are talking to me for a while know you must have guessed it, this is not how a normal 19 year old guy talks) but was able to bounce back... try to do the best you can but never overdo it that you are already overlapping your personality.. I know all people can do it if they try.

Guy
02-26-2007, 04:53 AM
But what's so good about having fun? Getting into a good college is more important so that you can secure your future. Think long-term welfare, and not short-term welfare.

sham16
02-26-2007, 05:04 AM
But what's so good about having fun? Getting into a good college is more important so that you can secure your future. Think long-term welfare, and not short-term welfare.


You have a good point there anf most people think the same way... That is why i said that you should take it in control. Dont have fun all the time... Jus take it into moderation.. cause some people who are really into studying take fun forgranted and think that it is useless.. Dont forget that we are in this world to have a life that is fun.. We are not in this world to be overworked... Let loose a little.. Take me as an example... I go out with my friends almost every day but I am not overdoing it... I study a lot in the evening and if I get a serious exam I usually say to my pals... "Guys see you next week got an exam coming" trust me they would understand...

If you like to know im in a medical course so yeah it is hard...

Lex
02-26-2007, 05:38 AM
Totally over rated! You get treated like a kid all the way to 21 then suddenly you're an adult and on your own...what the hell, how about preparing us a bit better from 18 to 21? Could be worse I suppose...

Guy
02-27-2007, 05:08 AM
If you like to know im in a medical course so yeah it is hard...

Damn, good luck with medical school.

Totally over rated! You get treated like a kid all the way to 21 then suddenly you're an adult and on your own...what the hell, how about preparing us a bit better from 18 to 21? Could be worse I suppose...

Lol, you can get a part time job before 18... btw, so 19,20 are they all considered teenage years?

I suppose I can enjoy life... after all, I can't go back, eh? But I know one thing's for sure: I wouldn't miss all the suffering I'd experience in my teenage years...

sham16
02-27-2007, 01:54 PM
@guy... Accoding too the word "teenager" the meaning of such a word means that you are in your teen's I.e. thirteen, fourteen, fifteen... etc... So yeah 19 is still a teenager... (trying hard to defend this since I am 19 and all...) hehehe

@lex Guys is right you can get a job at around 18... A year ago I was a english tutor for the koreans... But I really dont think that 18 is all that young though... maybe what guy here is talking about is around the ages of 15-16... am I right guy?

Guy
02-28-2007, 12:15 AM
Yeah, somewhere around there. Maybe I should change this thread's name to "Is being a teenager overrated"? Lol, ok, let's say that is the topic. Would you agree or disagree?

sham16
02-28-2007, 12:22 AM
Nah teenagers are also young so its ok... But even if you are a teenager it is up to you whether you would either be a big baby or not... You have all the options there in front of you so why not get it... I mean some people dont get a job and just stay home... If you like to be treated like an adult why not act like one? But if you rather stay young that is also ok you can work and act like your age as well... As what we said earlier we can use this as preparation into an adult.

Aerias
02-28-2007, 01:17 PM
In my opinion elder/older people always comment on wanting to be young again for two reasons

1. They want to relive the "Golden Days" when they had freetime and not as much stress

2. They're probaly feeling old...If I had arthritis or my hair was greying from the stress of work/home/everything else, I would probaly wish for a time when my only problems were parents and colledge

My opinion on the new topic in this forum, I agree with Sham.
It's all about maturity...if you act like your mentally retarded, your probaly going to get shacked up in the house by your parents. On the other side, if your responsible...life becomes a whole lot more fun

hollow kitty
02-28-2007, 01:30 PM
Being young is not over rated! You don't realize it until you are older though. :)

Xkavanger
02-28-2007, 01:59 PM
The thing is... everyone is young at one stage, you can't deny that and you can't change that.

Just a clear solution to make on those 'young lawyers' and 'young doctors', don't choose those who are young, do NOT have a qualification and do NOT have experience.
Avoid that as much as possible, though I say its rare to find people like that these days.

Youth does slide by in practically 'a flick of a switch' as it is something we try and make the most of while we can.
Unfortunatley, everyone wil get old and gain experince and as they say:

"Wisdom comes with Experience"

Arei
02-28-2007, 03:53 PM
You have the most freedom - physically, mentally, and financally - then you do as an adult. You don't have huge bills to pay, kids to take care of, and lots of other random little things adults nag about xD You're also at your physical apperance-wise best, when you're beautiful/handsome/cute/whatever.

When I get old I want to be able to enjoy it (going to try to stay in shape so im not disabled). As a woman you have no more PMS to worry about when you hit menopause (though its got its side-effects) when you retire you can almost go back to the state you were as a teenager, except you still have some responsiblites but you have a heck of a lot more freedom then you did as a kid.

My grandparents complain of not having enough energy or the strength to do stuff they did when they were younger (mostly my grandpa griping about that) My grandma is insane about staying young looking (she's not that old =P)

Alex26
02-28-2007, 08:35 PM
I dont think being young is overrated at all, actually, im only 18 and i long for those days of no worries + kid stuff and i think its only natural, times passes and your life get more and more complicated till you reach a certain limit where it starts to reverse, thats why many say you grow old till 50, then you start getting young again ( mentaly), when your old, your carefree like a kid again :)

Elocin
03-01-2007, 09:16 PM
As a kid, you have the easiest life. I mean... school isn't hard, sure you have problems with friends, you don't need to worry about money issues either. Honestly, I wouldn't mind staying 16 forever. Unfortunately, I am 19 and have money issues to deal with, bills, college, not putting my credit into the ground, and other things adults need to worry about.

I don't think it's overrated, but it's not a good idea to dwell in the past forever. There comes a time where you need to become an adult and take on the responsibilities of life.

Sakura_Drops
03-01-2007, 09:29 PM
Being young is quite overrated actually..although some youngsters take life as an opportunity to..uh..do fun stuff and not care about any sort of education (tsk tsk).

Anywhose, I personally think school, exams and stress is a real downside to a young life, especially those who get bullied, etc. Nonetheless, most adult lives are stressful too- jobs, money, family problems.

You get the idea.

Elocin
03-01-2007, 10:22 PM
I actually think that being a college student is much more stressful than being young. (under 18).

You get both of the 'stressful' issues of being an adult and being young in one load. You have school, exams, a job, money issues, family issues, as well as dealing with those people who haven't matured beyond high school.

Really, people who are younger have it easiest. Sure, you have to deal with friends, school, etc. But when you think about it, only one of those things are really going to affect you later on, which is your schooling. You graduate high school and go on to college, where you have to deal with more schooling (much harder and strenuous schooling at that), and then comes the issue of money. You have to deal with paying excessive amounts of money for the schooling. Sure, you can opt out of college, but doing so isn't really going to get you anywhere in life. Also in college, you have issues of friends and relationships. Sure people are more mature in college than in high school, but you get the idea.

The issues you encounter as an adult are nothing compared to the ones you encountered as a kid. Everything you do now will effect you in the future. Your schooling, building credit, running the risk of destroying credit, etc.

So really, being young isn't overrated to me.

A2k
03-02-2007, 04:09 AM
I actually think that being a college student is much more stressful than being young. (under 18).

You get both of the 'stressful' issues of being an adult and being young in one load. You have school, exams, a job, money issues, family issues, as well as dealing with those people who haven't matured beyond high school.

Really, people who are younger have it easiest. Sure, you have to deal with friends, school, etc. But when you think about it, only one of those things are really going to affect you later on, which is your schooling. You graduate high school and go on to college, where you have to deal with more schooling (much harder and strenuous schooling at that), and then comes the issue of money. You have to deal with paying excessive amounts of money for the schooling. Sure, you can opt out of college, but doing so isn't really going to get you anywhere in life. Also in college, you have issues of friends and relationships. Sure people are more mature in college than in high school, but you get the idea.

The issues you encounter as an adult are nothing compared to the ones you encountered as a kid. Everything you do now will effect you in the future. Your schooling, building credit, running the risk of destroying credit, etc.

So really, being young isn't overrated to me.

Hah, aren't the Arrancar a fine selected bunch when I don't even have to make a post to write what I'd have to say, because Elo said it all right there. ^_~

Being young you can live without a care in the world if you chose to do so. I'd relive my younger days just for fun to do everything all over again, for kicks.

Guy
03-02-2007, 04:21 AM
I actually think that being a college student is much more stressful than being young. (under 18).

You get both of the 'stressful' issues of being an adult and being young in one load. You have school, exams, a job, money issues, family issues, as well as dealing with those people who haven't matured beyond high school.

Really, people who are younger have it easiest. Sure, you have to deal with friends, school, etc. But when you think about it, only one of those things are really going to affect you later on, which is your schooling. You graduate high school and go on to college, where you have to deal with more schooling (much harder and strenuous schooling at that), and then comes the issue of money. You have to deal with paying excessive amounts of money for the schooling. Sure, you can opt out of college, but doing so isn't really going to get you anywhere in life. Also in college, you have issues of friends and relationships. Sure people are more mature in college than in high school, but you get the idea.

The issues you encounter as an adult are nothing compared to the ones you encountered as a kid. Everything you do now will effect you in the future. Your schooling, building credit, running the risk of destroying credit, etc.

So really, being young isn't overrated to me.

Well, being young doesn't restrict to just being a teenager. You can be in your twenties and still be considered young, but you're not a teenager anymore. Actually, what you stated proved my point that being young is overrated.

Being old, as I've stated, you are retired, the government has to pay you, and you never have to work again. No more worries.

sham16
03-02-2007, 12:16 PM
Well, being young doesn't restrict to just being a teenager. You can be in your twenties and still be considered young, but you're not a teenager anymore. Actually, what you stated proved my point that being young is overrated.
Being old, as I've stated, you are retired, the government has to pay you, and you never have to work again. No more worries.

Those are the things that you call incenctives (spelling)... These things are given to you because of a few things..

1 You have served a lot for your country... So they are giving you extra money because of it.
2. In my country, every time you get your salary you have to pay a certain amount and give to a branch of governement called the "social security system" This would soon be given back to you when you retire as to ensure your surivial when you retire.
3. Is that you are given this inscentives because you cannot work anymore... Thus limiting your so called "Enjoyment in life"

You see things are come always with a price... Sure there are advantages of being old but yes there is an even equal or greater disadvantages... Remember there is no such thing as free lunch... So for me the pro's and con's of being young is better than the pro's and con's of being old...

Maybe I am not the right person to say this (since I am only 19)... But I have seen people suffer because they have grown old without living out their childhood to the fullest... So yeah what old people say "You would understand when you get older" is really the truth.. Its up for you to take my advice or..... learn it the hard way...

d_angel
03-02-2007, 12:52 PM
Well, my position might be different from some others' opinions here, because I was one of those people that couldn't wait to grow up. I didn't like things not being under my control; nor did I like having my parents answerable for my actions. I get just as much freedom now as I did then, and the only kinds of restrictions that I've had to live with have been of my own design. Plus, I'd like to think I'm free of the angst that plagued my teenage years. :P

I'm still considered young, being in my early twenties. I think the word "young" should be defined a bit more... Did I enjoy my teenage years? Eh, maybe at the time, but I wouldn't want to do it again. Am I enjoying life now? Hell, yes. Will I enjoy it in the future? All signs point to yes. Will I bemoan the fact that I've lost my youth and want to go back to my golden days when I'm in my fifties?

...probably. The joy of discovery, of a body that's far more supple and energetic and other things that come with being that age are probably things I'll miss.

I guess I'll conclude by saying that for me, teenage youth was overrated, though all the rest of it can't be enjoyed enough. :D I'll probably be singing the same tune when I've passed the half-century mark.

sham16
03-02-2007, 01:01 PM
Well good for you d_angel... Being to enjoy someones life and be satisfied with it is the one thing that we are to be focusing on... Its not how I do it, or how he or she does it... It is a matter of how you do it.. remember that it is your life... You are the one that is going to suffer for the consiquences when you grow old... Whether it be good or bad it was your choice and hopefully you were proud of it...

The joys and pains of being young could not be counted nor will it be identical to every other one... It is a time where things are considered fragile as a clay being molded up into a vase... If you plan to decorate it with happiness do it... If you plan to carve it with experience good... But if mold it into something ugly and miserable... It would be very hard to decorate it into a shining masterpiece... So be wise do what you want and act what you want dont let others order you around.

And always remember life is too short, never waste it...

d_angel
03-02-2007, 01:10 PM
Well good for you d_angel... Being to enjoy someones life and be satisfied with it is the one thing that we are to be focusing on... Its not how I do it, or how he or she does it... It is a matter of how you do it.. remember that it is your life... You are the one that is going to suffer for the consiquences when you grow old... Whether it be good or bad it was your choice and hopefully you were proud of it...

Well, yes. I never did say life was without consequences. Responsibility for what you make of your life is entirely in your hands, whether or not you've got parents or significant others there to share the results of it. That stands no matter how old or young you are.

The question of youth being overrated is really up to the person, as I think you've intimated. I certainly didn't think my younger years were all that spectacular but then again, that's me. A hundred different people will have a hundred different experiences, right? :)

And, this may not have any direct bearing on the last few posts, but depth and breadth of responsibility are different for the stages of one's life. Paying bills, taxes, worrying about one's mortgage... they're just responsibilities that come with a certain stage in your life - I personally don't see them as any more or less onerous than cliques, homework or peer pressure. Then again, this has to do with the way I personally see my life. I could moan about how much more complicated life's gotten... but that would be a self-fulfilling prophecy then. Life's only as enjoyable or difficult as you make it. I never saw kids as having it easier or harder than adults. My views will probably change over time, but that's the way I see things now.

Whew. Sorry for the long, rambly post. And pardon in advance any typos - I tend not to watch what I'm doing because I'm far too lazy to. XD

Elocin
03-02-2007, 05:01 PM
Well, being young doesn't restrict to just being a teenager. You can be in your twenties and still be considered young, but you're not a teenager anymore. Actually, what you stated proved my point that being young is overrated.

Okay. Please state how I proved that being young is overrated. To my knowledge we are discussing people who are in HS or younger. To me, college is not young because you are essentially an adult.

Sure, appearance wise, you may be considered young, but inside, you are forced to grow up and take on more responsibilities.

Granted, you are going to have stress throughout your life. But those that you encounter in high school can never compare to those you encounter in college nor as a full-time working adult. To me, after you turn 18, everything changes.

Possibly it's because of my upbringing. Once I turned 18, I had to take care of all my finances, go to school, as well as have tremendous struggling with money just so I'm not running myself into massive debt and ****ing up my credit. This is stuff that's going to also effect me 20 years down the road. If I were to screw up my credit now, I'd end up having to declare bankruptcy and will hurt my chances of getting loans and stuff in the future.

People who are in high school and lower do not need to worry about this stuff. All they need to worry about is friends and school and maybe a job if they so choose to get one. To reiterate, being young isn't overrated to me, in the sense that being young is 18 and under.

Arrancar Matsumoto
03-02-2007, 10:51 PM
I'm 14 going 15, I have to admit I hate being young 'cause when things go up shit creek your stuck with them till your more grown up to sort thingsu p and put it behind ya BUT when I turn 40 I know I would love to be young and just hang about with my mates wasting days away, practically what life is about when you are a kid is to make the most of it 'cause the days are numbered.

Guy
03-03-2007, 05:52 AM
Okay. Please state how I proved that being young is overrated. To my knowledge we are discussing people who are in HS or younger. To me, college is not young because you are essentially an adult.

Well, the title is being young, not being a teenager. I mean, seriously, you don't consider people in their twenties to be young? I mean, calling a twenty year old a middle age person is not exactly the best description...

Maybe I am not the right person to say this (since I am only 19)... But I have seen people suffer because they have grown old without living out their childhood to the fullest...

I agree, which is why being young is hard. If you only party while you're young, then you will have a bad future. If you study your ass off til 1AM every night trying to get into a prestigeous college, you will secure a find future ahead of you. That way, you sacrifice the happiness of youth to ensure a life long prosperity later in your life... at least that's what I think.

BabyLoving
03-03-2007, 05:59 AM
I actually kinda like being young. I mean, now is the time when you can crap around with our friends, do childish stuff, create trouble, and act like a total spoiled brat. If you do that when you are adult, people are going to be like, 'What the hell is this person doing?" And the fun is totally lost.

Being young aint that bad, cause you have someone to look up to. And sometimes, to know that there's always going to be someone older than you, it's a good feeling. It's like, for me, I think that it gives me the feelings that I have someone to give me proper advice. (:

sham16
03-03-2007, 12:57 PM
Well, the title is being young, not being a teenager. I mean, seriously, you don't consider people in their twenties to be young? I mean, calling a twenty year old a middle age person is not exactly the best description...
I agree, which is why being young is hard. If you only party while you're young, then you will have a bad future. If you study your ass off til 1AM every night trying to get into a prestigeous college, you will secure a find future ahead of you. That way, you sacrifice the happiness of youth to ensure a life long prosperity later in your life... at least that's what I think.


Dont get me wrong or anything... I am not as happy go lucky as you think... I am in medicine school and have been here for 3 years already (since in my country you finish HS by the age of 16)... and the academy that I am in is on the top 3 in my coutnry as well... Plus I get High marks on my grades... I was not telling you to party all night long... come to think of it... I jsut do it once a week... and the rest of the week I study until 3 am and wake up at around 7 am... So yeah life is tough for me, but it is what i like and that is what all that counts... If you say that being young is overrated then you should remember that it was our choice and you should live by it and be happy for what it is... If not you woudl surely think of it as overrated....

@d_angel

I think our opinions are the same... Maybe you misunderstand me or I made a mistake on my last post but after reading your last post... we have the same idea.

Elocin
03-04-2007, 06:12 AM
Well, the title is being young, not being a teenager. I mean, seriously, you don't consider people in their twenties to be young? I mean, calling a twenty year old a middle age person is not exactly the best description...

Then that's us not being on the same page. To me, if you are out on your own, taking care of your own things, you are considered an adult. And that's that. Sure, a 20 year old may not be physically a middle age person, but mentally they are an adult and can have the same mentality as a middle age person does.

BabyLoving
03-04-2007, 01:58 PM
Well, if young, then can someone specify the age or something? Like how old to how old, and does maturity counts? Cause there can be like twenty plus people, with a teenage mindset. LOL. (:

Pie <3
03-04-2007, 02:08 PM
OK, I know the title sounds stupid, which is why I'm posting it under informal debates, but I'm really curious about everyone else's opinions.
I am young, and will be going to college in two years. Frankly, I don't see what's so good about being young. My parents, and virtually every adult that I know, always long for the days of youth. I don't understand why. The only good thing about being young that I can think of is that you are healthier.
You are in a lawsuit that could cause you to lose a million dollars. Who would you rather hire, a young lawyer with no experience, or an experienced lawyer who has been on the job for decades?
You are in a hospital, and need a surgery that could cost you your life. Who would you want the doctor to be; a surgeon fresh out of medical school, or an experienced doctor who has saved many lives before?
And once you hit retirement age, you won't have to work anymore, and the government even has to pay you!
Being young is hard because you've got schools to go to, researches to study, crappy part-time jobs to attend, and the world that jeers at you for being inexperience.
Anyone agree/disagree?



There's a difference between being young and being inexperienced with a job.


PS : Just because your old doesnt mean that you cant get a new job.:)

BabyLoving
03-04-2007, 02:22 PM
LOL. True, there lots of old people being cleaners. Well, at least for my country, it is. Not sure about the rest. (: There are also lots of jobless university graduates. Waitamin, are they considered young?

Guy
03-04-2007, 10:29 PM
There's a difference between being young and being inexperienced with a job.


PS : Just because your old doesnt mean that you cant get a new job.:)

True, but usually, young people are the ones inexperience with jobs. I think to have a good life in the future, one must work their ass off when they are young. What I mean by young is anytime from teenage to thirty years old. If one sacrifices teenage happiness for studying, then surely, success is on the horizon...

sham16
03-04-2007, 11:55 PM
True, but usually, young people are the ones inexperience with jobs. I think to have a good life in the future, one must work their ass off when they are young. What I mean by young is anytime from teenage to thirty years old. If one sacrifices teenage happiness for studying, then surely, success is on the horizon...


It has already been a known fact that if you study know and sacrifice everyhting... I.e. Social parties etc etc... You would be successful in your chosen career (provided that you are good in that field)... But do you think it is all worth it?? I am not saying that you should not study and all... what I am saying is that you should at least gice some of your time for socializing with your friends.. Ill give you an example

I know a certain someone (which I know you know him too) that he molested kids and had been enjoying it a lot... You see that person was isolated in the world of grown ups when he was young... Forced to do what he thought was right and correct since that he needed to do so.. He worked and worked until he grew too old for childish things.. Thus he was not able to go through what we call "the experimental stage" in which kids try to look and touch other persons *****... With this I think that in his late years he tried doing this thus becoming immoral since you are past that stage....

The moral of which is that I am not comparing you to him nor I am saying that you would do the same.... The point of that story is that people must go through certain stages in his life a step at a time... if you miss one step, its too hard for you to go back...Its like you stepping up to the 2nd floor yet your other feet is on teh first floor.... As I said before and I will say it again "There is no such thing as free lunch" or in economics "what are you willing to give out to get it?

To make the long story short... Being young will never be overrated since you have to experience it first hand inorder for you to have a more normal life as an adult and when you have kids one day you coudl easily say "Ive been there done that"

PS. I really dont like to say this... But since I was like you before here goes.. I am the same as you in HS thinking about like that... But a guy told me what I am telling you know... Just go out be with your friends act normally like a kid.. Thus I went out with my friends goffing off and doing what kids do... So yeah from being 3rd in my HS class I went down the ranks to 10th but hey I enjoyed it... Now i am in college I still do what i was doing and am still ok and getting high marks... 2 words for you "time management"

Guy
03-05-2007, 12:02 AM
Yeah, ok, I understand. We shouldn't all work all the time. We should have some fun. I sounded a bit overreactive, but I did not meant that we should not have fun at all when we are young. I was saying that too many people my age care only about having fun and not giving a second thought into their future. I think studying is more important than partying, but that does not mean we shouldn't have fun at all.

Nonetheless, it is true that we have to work hard in our youths to secure a better future.

sham16
03-05-2007, 12:13 AM
Exactly could not have put it better... We could not avoid working nor can we neglect having fun... Its just a matter of time management... Hope i was able to help you in someway.... good luck in your life kid...

II Xion II
03-06-2007, 06:38 PM
Depends on how young. There are less problems, no bills, no worries (serious worries), no jobs and shit when you're younger. Also, for older people, youth meant vitality, fun, and new things. As I am almost 19, I am still young, however, I already long for the past days when I was like 13 or 14 and when I was a kick-ass skateboarder who would hang out with my cousin and skateboard all day long. I had an awesome youth being the oldest sibling in my family and hanging out with my friends and relatives doing awesome things that many of you cannot even imagine. Now everything is about scholarships, college, jobs, and other shit that is not even remotely fun. I know it sounds cheesy to be nostalgic about 4-5 years ago, but the good old days will be deeply missed.

If you are 15 or younger, then enjoy your life for all that it is worth before life hits you like a ton of bricks. ;)

Megalomania
03-08-2007, 10:30 AM
Being young is overrated.
I'm not an adult, but I can imagine why parents and our elder peers tell us this.

Back when they were young - they were pretty much free.
I have asked my parents many times before about their childhood, yes, they had school, they had homework, but nowhere to the extent of what high school students have now.

I'm just going into year 10 (16 years old), which as most people would know, is where work really starts.

Back when our parents were young, they had not much homework, and definitely not as much pressure to achieve.
For example - if anyone in my year gets below 85% in any of their end-of-year tests, they are expelled. (I'm in a selective school.)

Not fun.

The amount of homework given to us often stops us from going anywhere, and our teachers don't give us any sympathy when they give us redundant* homework due on the day of our School Certificate assignments (which contribute to the end-of-year marks.) -- their answer to our requests for an extension on the homework? "Oh, I guess you'll just be busy".

*By redundant, I mean "Copy down this page of notes", when the teacher gives us the page to keep anyway, and having to colour in dumb maps.
If we don't do this homework, we get detention and a letter sent home.

It's ridiculous, if this is our time to have fun and be free, then I'd hate to imagine life as an adult.

Setsuna Ai
03-09-2007, 10:41 PM
I don't think youth is that overrated at all. I understand and sympathize with those who yearn for youth. I'm 15 but I feel aged and I wish I was like 10 again (haha). And I love my parents very much so I don't mind the whole having to live with them until I'm 18+.

And just like Megalomania said, it's all about the freedom. Just because adults don't have parents over their backs doesn't mean they're free to do shit. There are many things that chain adults to the ground: work, bills, and their aging bodies.

(But I do disagree with the whole too much pressure and homework thing. I'm in all honors classes and I make it every semester with A and so can my friends. Plus this whole No Child Left Behind Act thing gives a lot more students chances to pass. The only pressure I feel is the whole standardized tests and stuff but everything else is a breeze. My parents told me they got the "switch" if they failed to abide to certain rules or handing in any work. Missing two assignments gave them detention for 3 days D:..idk schools are different. sigh)

Guy
03-10-2007, 11:27 PM
Well, being a kid is fine. I long to be a kid again. I'm saying youth as in general. I think it's much better to be 50 or 60 then to be 20. When you're that old, you're used to paying bills, working, and all that crap. In addition, once you hit retirement age, the gov. pays you because of social security.

I don't think being a child is overrated; I just think being a young adult is.

死神 クリス
03-10-2007, 11:36 PM
Well, High School Is Awesome, Take Advantage of your youth have the most fun you can possibly get and don't forget your studies so you can get into Universite :)

sham16
03-11-2007, 02:23 PM
You can say being a young adult could be overrated... Cant really argue with that... That is the time you are to have all responsibilities and all of the stress in you life...

But still its a time in your life when you are still active... I wouldn't go rushing up to be 50... Might I remind you the average life span of a human being is 70 years old.. 70 - 50 = 20 >.<

Guy
03-11-2007, 05:28 PM
Lol, yeah, that's basically my arguement and point. Of course, young people are healthier and have more fun, but they have a lot of bizarre new responsibilites that they are not familiar with.

paige_
03-26-2007, 03:06 PM
I bet you anything you won't be asking this in 50 years time...

/moved to Growing Up

I agree... being young is totally being overrated.. n_n

Guy
03-27-2007, 04:48 AM
Yeah, apparently, this topic isn't specific enough. If I were to change the title to "Is being a young adult overrated?", how many of you guys would agree with me? It seems like everyone my age is dying to become a young adult and move away from his parents...

Kalashnikov
03-27-2007, 09:16 PM
Well, i dont know. I dont really believe its overrated, being young is awesome. Especially at school. Although young people dont really tend to realise what good of a time they're having untill they grow up. Thats when you start thinking, "oh i wish i was back at school, the good old days" whatever..

So i guess its alright for you to actually enjoy being young and know you are enjoying it, but that doesnt really mean you never enjoyed yourself if you never realised it.
(wow that line is a twister =/)


so yeah..i believe its not overrated -
being young is awesome, but that does also depend on factors such as where you live, your family etc..

rd_07
04-01-2007, 12:02 AM
Lol, good advice, but the only thing is, I'm not a party animal. I've never been to a teenage party my whole life (unless you count a karaoke party that anime club held). I'm more a reserved and reticent type person, so I wouldn't mind not being able to party anymore.


same here...
being too young in everything isnt always cool sometimes it sucks
me - 15 already in college at 18 graduated college a 4 year bachelors degree
made an AI theses... the thing that sucks is when i was looking for a job i get discriminated, they may not say it but i can feel it like they are asking themselves "what does this 18yo do to our company?" then they wont bother calling, so i ended up being a freelance for couple of months, it took me quite sometime bout 5months before i got hired- i needed to bring my notebook and showed them what i can do just to get hired...
well it sucks before...


just do your best to enjoy what you have and what you are now...be always wise.

just take me as an example (if you dont mind) now am 20, turning 21 and 1 week and a half am gona be married, and am very happy though we cant deny the ups and downs that comes to us...
if youre stressed, dont give a damn watch bleach instead and have a good sleep!

Harley Quinn
05-20-2007, 11:37 PM
I don't think being young is overrated at all, I'd say they were the best days.Especially when I just finished school, all that free time to run around an cause mischief.*sighs*Ahh the good ol' days.......

ichigo81195
06-06-2007, 11:42 PM
u have a major point i mean bing young is no walk in the park u learn things the hard way and have 2 go 2 school and everything who would want 2 go threw that again.??

Guy
06-06-2007, 11:44 PM
Yeah, being a young adult is overrated. I mean, all you do is study if you want to have a good future, but in memory of sham16, remember to have some fun every now and then. For the most part though, I think being young is overrated (namely because you have to study a lot and no one trusts your "experience" in the job world)