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Insight
03-13-2007, 12:04 PM
this is almost certainately fake spoiler/summary of the chapter but i thought it was so amazing that it was worth posting anyway.
stolen from 10sarg on manga helpers.
Oro's Hideout - Kabuto shouts out to saskue again asking which one it is, saskue turns back and activates the sharingan. Mimicking the first time kabuto asked saskue to show oro some respect. Saskue continues to walk out of the hideout.
Back at kohona – We see a badly beaten and tired naruto training to complete the futon rasegan with kakashi and yamato. While still training they hear a massive explosion and the noise of weapons clashing nearby, no one looks up or takes any notice. The panel goes over some trees to another part of an expanse showing naruto clones fighting/training with gai, lee, neji, tenten.
The panel pans out more to show more expanses with more naruto clones this time fighting shikamaru, chouji, and ino. And in another shino, hinata and kiba.
Nighttime falls and naruto releases the kage bushin jutsu and collapses. We then see gai, kakashi, yamato, shikamaru and neji discussing naruto’s progress, they note the speed at which he learns and counters techniques and all are extremely impressed. Kakashi and yamato note the difference in ability since using his own chakra more and more and how quickly he recovers from these training excercises.
Daybreak – everyone is in one area surrounding naruto, the battle begins! The next panel shows a close up of a 3 tome sharingan, and then a panel of saskue on top of a nearby hill watching the events of battle unfold below.
Next Chapter! Chosen Path!
i think if this were the real chapter it would be awesome as we would finally get to see the long overdue naruto we've been hoping for.
Ushio Amamiya
03-13-2007, 02:49 PM
hmmm
I wonder which is which now at the end of the manga chapter. It's a mystery.
gebric
03-13-2007, 04:04 PM
Most certainly a fake. I highly doubt that all of them would just go and boost Naruto so much. Even if he has most potential in Konoha now, I just can't see everyone making him the next hokage so willingly. And for Sasuke to go straight to Konoha is also too much. If he goes somewhere, it's where Itachi is.
Ushio Amamiya
03-13-2007, 04:14 PM
hmmm, so you mean that you don't want Naruto to be the next Hokage? Just wondering.
Naruto has the potential to be the Next Hokage. He still improves his techniques and his personality changes a bit. There are others that have the same potential as Naruto to be the next Hokage.
Even if he has most potential in Konoha now, I just can't see everyone making him the next hokage so willingly
It's because others don't see how much Naruto improves from time to time. Although, many people acknowledges him because he is getting stronger. That's what I think.
And for Sasuke to go straight to Konoha is also too much. If he goes somewhere, it's where Itachi is.
Yeah, Sasuke only wants to kill Itachi first, anyway.
Insight
03-13-2007, 07:17 PM
i wonder if sasuke would come to konoha to ask naruto about akatsuki as he probably knows naruto has faced them. also he knows that itatchi is after naruto so he may hang around and wait for itachi.
never the less this chapter to me seems far too good to be true which is a shame.
Shinji
03-13-2007, 07:48 PM
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Translation by Sho.
「どっちだと思う?」戸惑うカブト。サスケは写輪眼で精神世界内での結末を見せる。
"Who are you?" Kabuto asks bewildered. Sasuke shows him what happened inside the spirit world with the Sharingan.
サスケの意思は精神世界を侵食して支配。「大蛇丸 お前の如何なる術もこの眼の前では・・・」
Sasuke's will dissolved the spirit world. "Orochimaru, no matter what jutsu you have, before eyes such as these..."
「分かってるはずだろ・・もう」取込まれ断末魔の大蛇丸。サスケは大蛇丸の全てを乗っ取った
"-Well, you should get the point by now." Orochimaru is shown in the throes of agony, after which Sasuke completely overtakes him.
場面変わって角都を解剖したツナデ達。新術には細胞を破壊する効果があり、ナルトも経絡を
損傷するので術の使用を禁じる。大蛇丸のアジトから新キャラ「水月」を連れ出るサスケで終
The scene changes to Tsunade's group performing an autopsy on Kakuzu. Due to the effects of the new jutsu such as cells being completely destroyed and damage to his tenketsu, Naruto is prohibited from using the jutsu. And everything ends with a new character called "Suigetsu"* coming out from Orochimaru's hideout with Sasuke.
うーん「分かってるはず・・」のトコ、画で見るともう少し面白いんだけどな
Yeah, if you look at the scene where it says, "You should get the point", there's something a bit interesting.
*Suigetsu is made using the kanji for "water" and "moon". It's short for 鏡花水月 (kyou-ka-sui-getsu), an analogy for poetry in Japanese, where the true meaning of poetry can't be described in words. The literal meaning is something I quote from the dictionary and it states: "as the moon reflects on the water, the flowers reflect on a mirror."
And the last line is the spoiler writer's commentary.
gebric
03-13-2007, 07:54 PM
Pics:
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edit: ah, so it was too late. I'll leave pics though, as they're better quality IMO
Insight
03-13-2007, 07:58 PM
i knew the chap i posted was fake it was to much what we want to see happen.
the real chapter sounds a bit rubbish i don't care about kazuku and sasuke winning and finding a new orochimaru is not interesting to me.
no mare sasuke i want naruto.
OutLawBankai
03-13-2007, 08:06 PM
Naruto not allowed to use the jutsu =/ that sucks 4 him all that training for nothing
Insight
03-13-2007, 08:52 PM
yeah i know what a waste and it's even more of a waste that he will obviously use it again so what was the point in telling him he shouldn't use it.
still i'm just hoping there some sort of plan at work which will make naruto awesome again and me eat my words.
xero273
03-14-2007, 02:43 AM
That spoiler didn't actually say Oro died. so I wonder if there is any chance of Oro's spirit existing within Sasuke's body (it's something like Ichigo and his hollow)?
Unrefined-Nemesis
03-14-2007, 09:52 AM
WTF ?? Afterall that hard work he only gets to use that Jutsu once ? I Pity naruto why does the author wants to make him the weakest character !! Well I guess naruto will use that Technique as a last resort then even if he is forbidden to use it.
Rayster
03-14-2007, 10:01 AM
roar! yes!
this better mean that Sasuke really did win. Oro's too damn weak and ghey to continue onwards... damn snake..
Orochimaru is shown in the throes of agony, after which Sasuke completely overtakes him.
awesome. oro better not still be in Sasuke's body..
Kenta
03-14-2007, 10:27 AM
heh, so naruto now cannot use this jutsu and that jutsu. what can he use then? maybe we'll get to see him invent the spirit bomb no jutsu next.
Undying
03-14-2007, 10:45 AM
I was afraid this would happen all along =\. Now Naruto can't use his new jutsu, why TF would he get it, then?
First the Kyuubi, he can't use the Kyuubi because it's too dangerous. Hard to swallow, but then, yeah, the Kyuubi is a demon and whatnot.
Now we're told he can't use his only trump card and only truly effective jutsu on Sasuke.
Kishi, are you seriously trying to end Naruto with Sasuke killing Natuto? Not that I care who wins, but it's slightly annoying, you know.
Insight
03-14-2007, 12:45 PM
yeah i know at this rate i'm gonna give up on naruto and come back later or maybe never. his jutsu is only half finished, it took 10 chapters to make and in the end he can't use it.
and were still not sure if orochimaru is dead. if he's still alive thats the final straw.
Kenta
03-14-2007, 12:48 PM
unless naruto learns something quick that even trumps the FRS, then omg what's the point? kishi has a hardon for sasuke and he probably a little too late that he should have named the manga Sasuke to begin with, but this is ridiculous. he's ripping a page out of kubo's book, making a character look cool, then BAM they go back to where they started.
actually, orochi is one of the strongest villains in the manga and kishi's sudden change of pace to have him eliminated by super-ego boy turn off some people. and this is beyond ridiculous, they only way to suppress orochi in his own world is the tsukiyomi and nothing was mentioned. kishi has not been impressive lately. the pacing is too up and down, and some things are irrational.
OutLawBankai
03-14-2007, 03:12 PM
tbh with things going the way they are i see naruto leaving the village and joining up with sasuke and just killing everyone -.-
gebric
03-14-2007, 04:25 PM
hmmm, so you mean that you don't want Naruto to be the next Hokage? Just wondering.
It's not that I don't want him to be next hokage, it's just that I want to see him achieve the rank more by himself. I like it more the way it was before, Naruto telling everyone he's gonna be the hokage someday and others ignoring him or taking it as a joke. I don't like the idea of everyone pushing him to be hokage. But I'm glad that summary I was referring is fake.
Kyouka Suigetsu
03-14-2007, 07:21 PM
Holy crap! Aizen's zanpakutou is now a character in Naruto! WTF is going on?!
On a serious note, I'm going to be pissed if Sasuke defeated Orochimaru. I hope it's not as simple as it sounds, although, I'm still going to follow the series either way.
Undying
03-15-2007, 11:17 AM
Holy crap! Aizen's zanpakutou is now a character in Naruto! WTF is going on?!
On a serious note, I'm going to be pissed if Sasuke defeated Orochimaru. I hope it's not as simple as it sounds, although, I'm still going to follow the series either way.
Kishi is running out of ideas...
inocho
03-15-2007, 11:24 AM
Kishimo is a big fan of Kubo:rolleye09
Insight
03-15-2007, 12:38 PM
i think he is very much like kube in that he has a plan for the series and knows what he's doing. but i'll be lying if i said i knew what that plan was or liked it at the moment.
Kuroi Getsuga Tenshou
03-16-2007, 01:37 AM
What?!?? He can't use the Rasen Shuriken?!? Dammit!!
xero273
03-16-2007, 11:56 PM
Holy crap! Aizen's zanpakutou is now a character in Naruto! WTF is going on?!
On a serious note, I'm going to be pissed if Sasuke defeated Orochimaru. I hope it's not as simple as it sounds, although, I'm still going to follow the series either way.
Looks like they took out Aizen's zanpakutou now. The translated version calls the new character Mizugetsu
Undying
03-17-2007, 12:35 AM
I think this is a mistranslation, though. Suigetsi sounds like the right way (it's possible that they are misreading the kanji since in the translations, the word "water",which would be usually "mizu", appears in Kyouka Suigetsu).
Somebody should get the kanji from either and compare.
inocho
03-17-2007, 01:25 AM
Same kanji, different pronunciation. Kishi aint going to follow Kubo.
Undying
03-17-2007, 01:40 AM
Same kanji, different pronunciation. Kishi aint going to follow Kubo.
Same kanji... same kanji means same meaning, no? That means it's pretty mcuh the same, that character is something nobody can figure out (a la Aizen's zanpakto).
.Rik-uh-shey
03-17-2007, 01:09 PM
why do people keep saying that Naruto wont be able to use his new technique. Naruto said that he knows whats going on with his body more than anyone else which implies that he will use it again. and hey its only half finished ppl. he could develop it to a point where its not going to affect the user. or maybe itll hurt you more. who knows.... but im pretty damn sure that he will use against sasuke if the chance comes. hmm... if sasuke is hit w/ that hell probably die.. all of your nerves getting cut off...
MezzoDragon
03-17-2007, 01:29 PM
Hopefully, the complete version of that jutsu will have a different affect. Who is Mizugetsu? He reminds me of Kimimaro. Could he be another follower/victim of the now subdued Ochimaru? Or, could he be a clone of Kimimaro with a different bloodline limit. Either way, I hope he is not a bad guy.
inocho
03-17-2007, 01:48 PM
Hopefully, the complete version of that jutsu will have a different affect. Who is Mizugetsu? He reminds me of Kimimaro. Could he be another follower/victim of the now subdued Ochimaru? Or, could he be a clone of Kimimaro with a different bloodline limit. Either way, I hope he is not a bad guy.
Maybe it's a girl? Sasuke acted kind and gentle to 'her'. Mizugetsu also seemed to expect him to appear in front of 'her'
Most important question>> What is now Kabuto?
Insight
03-17-2007, 02:41 PM
i dunno but i hope that we maybe see a mini sasuke arc as even though i don't like him he is more interesting then naruto at the moment who has progressed at all and is now in fact going backwards. i also want to know if sasuke has gained access to all orochimaru's memories/jutsu/chakara as that would again be very interesting to find out about.
i also think it would be funny if it was a gril as we would see sakura jealous again.
inocho
03-17-2007, 02:49 PM
The RAWs are not really clear. On the Sasuke's bubbles, it looks like Megetsu, but on the side line sentence, it's more like Suigetsu.
I think Suigetsu is like, what's the character where, as long as there is water, he is everywhere? It looks like he's emerging from a pool of water, maybe his body is part liquid?
Undying
03-17-2007, 05:40 PM
Some sort of an experiment conducted by Orochi? It's possible =\.
Looks like Sasuke's eyes are different btw, the Sharingan has a sort of a "border" between the tomoe. I'm curious what will happen though. Even if Naruto thinks he knows what's best for him, I still think he doesn't realise the danger of the Rasenshuriken.
IMO, he will need the Kyuubi chakra to undo the damage he sustains from using the Rasenshuriken.
The_Irving
03-17-2007, 06:03 PM
Man these past few chapters have been disappointing. I hate how Sasuke's all-powerful now. Orochimaru should have killed that stupid Uchiha. Now Naruto's going to be like, "OMG You killed Orochimaru, I knew you were a good guy! LOL!"
.Kozmic
03-17-2007, 08:41 PM
I'm not sure if someone has already posted the FULL chapter,but i have it here
http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/346.msnw
Undying
03-17-2007, 08:59 PM
Naruto is one big helluva disappointment =\. Kishi started the disappointment when Sasuke beat Naruto in one-tail mode. That friggin' impossible. From then, Naruto just spiraled down =\.
.Kozmic
03-17-2007, 09:06 PM
Only the filler episodes were disappointments, but i do have to agree that sasuke shouldn't have beaten naruto in one tail mode because Naruto beat the hell out of Sasuke and Sasuke look like an ugly toad with black lipstick and big purple hair, but i still love naruto.
Mercurius
03-17-2007, 10:50 PM
Indeed that Kishi, is starting to make Sasuke hella annyoing stron...it makes naruto look weak...real weak. even more so now then with Gaara, Gaara being able to fight even with Deidara and all that...and then naruto...just looking like a weakling.
But anyways, I''m interested in Sasuke's plans with this Mizugetsu guy. he seems like a cool enough dude
inocho
03-18-2007, 03:36 AM
Being a big fan of Sasuke (manga should have be named Sasuke anyway), I am so happy when he comes on being strong. He better be stronger than Naruto all the time, but from all that I see.....Naruto is the one that beats all the enemies, all because......sheer determination, the essence of any shounen anime/manga; as long as you have the will/heart to protect your loved ones, YOU PAWN THEM!!.
Sasuke don't have that, does he? I mean loved ones.....
Rereading the chapter makes me think that Orochi is not dead, rather it's part of Sasuke with Sasuke being the dominant. Guess Orochi's wish really come true, partly.
sniperz
03-18-2007, 05:34 AM
yea might be... oro would be alive i guess. but one word... he'll rest in the beneaths of sasuke's body.i bet his a loser by now but still he can feel the power of sharingan.that's wat i though. Gayness XD~ yea but true... oro wouldnt take dominant for no reason right? as long his in sasuke's body and as part of a lilttle soul in it,he must be so frigging happy and crazy of coz.it's just like ichigo in bleach.. the hollow is similiar to oro... gaining strengths and powrers from the dominant body user but difference in naruto series is that oro doesn't proofs to be strong at all.. he migh rest in the bellies of sasuke.. and tat's all? .. plus it already sounds like his weak as heck than sasuke.
sasuke is like some sannin lvl now.. i bet ppl like jiraiya is his match :) u could bet
AznPoi
03-18-2007, 06:56 AM
Was wondering if Mizugetsu was a "water ninja" since he's like a giant blob.
Will sasuke go back to Konoha now O.o
inocho
03-18-2007, 07:09 AM
What is there in Konoha? His objective is to kill Itachi. Wouldn't it be funny that Naruto and Sakura swearing to return Sasuke to Konoha, sees Sasuke himself coming back home?
Until Itachi bites the dust, Sasuke would not go back to Konoha. I think Sasuke would go after the Akasuki right now.
renniw
03-18-2007, 11:13 AM
What is there in Konoha? His objective is to kill Itachi. Wouldn't it be funny that Naruto and Sakura swearing to return Sasuke to Konoha, sees Sasuke himself coming back home?
Haha thats true. The chapter was sort of a dissapointment with the naruto jitsu issue but the apperance of the Mizugetsu caught my attention. I Really wanna know who he/she is .....
.Kozmic
03-18-2007, 11:42 AM
Yeah, but you know he's gonna have to use it again to kill somebody else or just develop a new jutsu.
Raeoki
03-18-2007, 05:19 PM
I think Sasuke will begin to recruit more people to his side. Maybe when he took over Orichimaru he obtained some of his feelings, like taking over the world.
Undying
03-18-2007, 05:44 PM
Ew, taking over the world. Ew ew ew. So disgusting and cliche -_-.
Sasuke's power-ups seem rather random because he doesn't have any of those special things most shonen characters have, like "will" or "desire to protect". His advance is of sheer talent.
But there's a limit to talent... I mean Naruto is pretty talented himself (or are you saying that mastering and evolving the Rasengan is lack of talent? Even the 4th - the 4th! - couldn't finish the Rasengan), but his advance is a little too slow >.> How will he return Sasuke to the village if he is nowhere near his level?
Nah, Naruto can only fight Sasuke with the Kyuubi, and even that he would need to do by mastering it. But Sasuke has all the negatives of Naruto's powers. Honestly, he's overpowered >.>
Itachi should still pwn him, though.
Insight
03-18-2007, 06:40 PM
i don't think that naruto is that underpowered it's just thatbhis ability's are to simple. he could do what sasuke did and beat all those ninja's using loads of shadow clones but that is such a rubbish way of doing it.
naruto seems to have grown to become a tactical genius by bieng able to outsmart kazuku etc but to me that isn't what naruto is about. i would just like to see him beat someone using skill, and not kage bunshin or some variation of rasengan.
.Kozmic
03-18-2007, 07:22 PM
Yeah I see what you're getting at, it's more fun to see Naruto use his masterful Taijustsu skills like in the Uzumaki chronicles when fighting Gaara and in Kyuubi chakra form.
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