Claymore

[Guts]

It's possible, though I think unlikely. Most of the artwork is pretty different, if you ask me. There is something else I think it's similar to, but I can't remember the name.

You know... well... that one?

Bastard? lol


Joke aside, there is some similarity to that manga as well. Priscilla look like someone I can't remember.

Also somehow Isley look like DS although IMO he do look more like pre-eclipse Griffth from berserk -when he very first appear-




Anyway there is sheer resemsblance of berserk someway or another. The transformation of the human form to awakened form is just too much similar when Apostle from berserk transform into apostle from human form.


That silver eye lion king remind me so much of Nosferatu Zodd. Not just look but even their way of slashing using claw attack is almost identical

[Kodoku]

To be honest, if you've got claws you're gonna use them in a certain way, aren't you? How many variations of swniging your arm are there?

[Nood]

Theres lots of resemblence in the whole world of the two.
Theres actually a line that both Guts and Clare said, something like "I only want to kill as many awakened beings/apostles as I can" so it goes pretty far, and it is possible that Norihiro was influenced by it.
Locus and Isley's form are totally identical, centaurs with weapons as hands etc.
Any awakened being could pass as an apostle in Berserk.
Claymore was initially flamed as a Berserk-copy when it became popular due to the anime.

But...Claymore resembles the greatest manga around? How is that bad.
Its still not a copy and isn't done ina bad copycat way.

But to be honest, now that Guts has the berserker armor, they do look even more alike, but ofcourse, the hanjinhanyo concept was done before he had it.

[Guts]

To be honest, if you've got claws you're gonna use them in a certain way, aren't you? How many variations of swniging your arm are there?

Still their style just matches so well, and their eyes is wat actually amaze me, it was so similar.


Big sword, I'm not sure why nowaday manga like the concept of Big sword, but Berserk seem to be the main source of such influence (Since the prototype actually came out in 1987)


Claymore's sword i dont consider that as small or normal size as well. Take a look also at Isley, I mean he look almost like Griffith in berserk volume 1. And yes now i remember very clearly, Priscilla resemble almost like the Female apostle who killed Corkus in Berserk (The one that eventually got killed by Guts in the first few pages of Berserk after having sex).


I wouldn't call that a rip off, since i know other manga who really rip off from berserk, but then again the storyline do share the common concept, human helpless against demon, yet someone who specialised in hunting demon would be there to protect human races.


Claymore do has its quality and I really like that, at least it doesn't drag like Berserk does and the fight were much more compact and intensive through the story. 70% of the manga is just fight and fight, really rox! ^^

[Nood]

I don't think that they are so alike, Ligardo and Zodd.
Ligardo is a speedy cat, while while Zodd as human is probably as big as Ligardo in awakened form, and full of msucles and all, horns etc. He even have wings.
Their eyes are just the usual beast-cat eyes.
I also don't see the resemblence in Isley and Griffith, sure both long white hair, and both gay, but that isn't much.
Or maybe its that I don't want to see a resemblence? Since I hate Griffith to no end.

[Setsuna Ai]

I don't think that they are so alike, Ligardo and Zodd.
Ligardo is a speedy cat, while while Zodd as human is probably as big as Ligardo in awakened form, and full of msucles and all, horns etc. He even have wings.
Their eyes are just the usual beast-cat eyes.
I also don't see the resemblence in Isley and Griffith, sure both long white hair, and both gay, but that isn't much.
Or maybe its that I don't want to see a resemblence? Since I hate Griffith to no end.
everyone does, Griffith is the best villain to ever be spawned in the history of storytelling! But honestly though I'll have to agree with the people who said Isley resembled Griffith before the eclipse events, as far as looks go. But I don't know, I like Claymore better. Berserk got old for me pretty quick and it seemed to take forever (and it kinda did! lol), but I'm still hooked on Claymore even though we're having these filler chapters right now.

[Guts]

everyone does, Griffith is the best villain to ever be spawned in the history of storytelling! But honestly though I'll have to agree with the people who said Isley resembled Griffith before the eclipse events, as far as looks go. But I don't know, I like Claymore better. Berserk got old for me pretty quick and it seemed to take forever (and it kinda did! lol), but I'm still hooked on Claymore even though we're having these filler chapters right now.


Just take that portion when Raki first see Isely holding his sword and practice it, den you see that part when Guts met Griffith when he are showering in book 5 (The part when Guts saw the red behelit). I was quite shock how much both look like.


Anyway I just have a funny dream last night, I dreamt of reading a Claymore future part where Raki become a special Claymore, and his insignia on his sword was that sarcrifical brand of berserk.


ROFL

[Kodoku]

That wouldn't be too bad. What are the odds on Rake becoming a Claymore at the moment, anyway? I, personally, think it's going to happen at some point, however little evidence/reasoning I have (I have none). I just think it's going to happen.

[Nood]

Just take that portion when Raki first see Isely holding his sword and practice it, den you see that part when Guts met Griffith when he are showering in book 5 (The part when Guts saw the red behelit). I was quite shock how much both look like.


Anyway I just have a funny dream last night, I dreamt of reading a Claymore future part where Raki become a special Claymore, and his insignia on his sword was that sarcrifical brand of berserk.


ROFL

Lol, thats because...um, they are both men? Pretty obvious that their body would look alike.



Anyway, Raki becoming a Claymore? Even if he becomes one he won't stay a claymore for long, it doesn't work with males, and hes childish brain, and 7 years aren't enough to grow out of that. He would awaken with ease, just imagine after longing after Clare for over 7 years, your first encounter with sexual pleasure alike of having sex, I know nobody would be able to withstand it and stop.
Also, who would turn him into a claymore?
The organization won't, maybe Isley is able to, but then again, he would awaken him aswell for the lulz.

[EndlessSky]

Turning males into claymores does work its just that they awaken alot more easily than females. Thus the organization couldn't contro them as well as they could females.

The male claymores obivously had to stay claymores for a decent amount of time to have ranks, etc.

[Guts]

Lol, thats because...um, they are both men? Pretty obvious that their body would look alike.
it doesn't work with males,

I might be wrong, but the newest chapter 73 i thought i saw a male claymore.

[Tyekanik]

Those weird guys who sit in the 'I'm important' room, and the ones who act as controllers?

Understandable, I've thought they might have been claymores before at some point but the age is a bit wonky - they'd have to not do it. Also they'd have to come close enough to awakening to permanently screw their bodies (no aging as well as not retaining perfect human form), but the mental facilities remain mostly intact - followed by never ever releasing any yoki again.

I'd be willing to buy they were claymore's or rather had some yoma in them similar to a claymore easily with enough supporting information. Like why they'd have been kept around and running the organization would also need a good explanation. The lab failures usually lose horribly in their quest for power, running things like they do doesn't seem like a small step but hey, eunuchs have usurped power from emperors through lovely bureaucracy so the possibility exists.

eh. I forget my original intent. Back to work I suppose.

[Nood]

I might be wrong, but the newest chapter 73 i thought i saw a male claymore.

Care to elaborate?

The blacksuit guys, even though they don't really look human, supposedly aren't claymores.

Count in guys, that no matter what, unless a half-awakening occurs, if the mind is weak, or enough time passes, the awakening will happen even if they don't use their yoki.
So they shouldn't be claymores, ofcourse they are probably some special whatnot.

Also, what would a claymore raki that doesn't use yoki do?
First, he has to learn how to control yoki, to supress it, in that time if he goes into a fight even once, and its not onesided for him, I'll bet my ass that he would awaken.

To gain Ranks? Not really, they get it once their training is done, ofcourse, we don't know how did they found out that putting yoma flesh into people would make them cooler, and then made the first generation.
As though as that, the first generation only last 7 for 7 years, so at best Raki has like 3-4 years left if he got claymorized halfway the timeskip?
And in the end it seems they all awakened, seeing how many males we seen, their numbers still look even to the females, while they were trained only for 7 years while the females for 300+ years.
In otherwords, I don't want a strong Raki, he should die.

[Kenta]

So I have caught up.

Anyone think that the one Miata sensed is not Galatea, but someone else?

Also, I'd like Clare to focus on sharpening her Yoki sensing ability, instead of improving her flash sword. In the beginning when she fought the first male AB, I thought she has a chance to catch up to Teresa's level who is unrivalled in Yoki sensing but not stellar in other areas. I'm sort of tired of this monster vs monster stuff, and I want to see a Claymore owns something strong for once, just like Teresa.

[Guts]

Anyway anyone feel that Flora death in such a pathetic manner is a pity? I mean she is one of the coolest claymore i hv seen up to date in manga, such a death for her is really...


Anyway regardless Galatea is the best. :toocool:

[Tyekanik]

Anyone think that the one Miata sensed is not Galatea, but someone else?

If its not galatea, I had a sneaking suspicion it might end up being Claire. However that might be impossible if claire is somewhere else, I need to check over some chapters, once a month per chapter if that makes me forget most everything :(

Anyway I was thinking they might find Claire because she had that habit of getting mistake for someone actually eh...strong but not in Claire's sense.

Who I hope it isn't, is Priscilla. Raki I'm sure is trying to humanize her and that could mean she actually goes into town without munching on random intestines.

Bah, going to read some claymore then come back with an actual hypothesis.

[Kenta]

The reason I had that suspicion is that Miata described the warrior to be 'powerful'. I don't know how different person might interpret that context but I think Galatea is not overpowering in anything, just that she can manipulate the flow of Yoki to a certain extent. A powerful warrior sheltering in a town, it can't be Clare, that much for certain. ES chapter is good, but I'd like it to go back to the main story.

[Nood]

Hisui, the fight you said proved that its pointless for her to use just that.
Teresa was awesome at it obviously, but not extreme in other areas?
Check the "powerlevel"-sheets I posted a few pages back.
Also, Clare sucks when it comes to yoma energy, she don't have much, and she can't do anything about it.
The yoki release, and capacity does determine ones speed and strength to a point, Teresa, without barely releasing any yoki broke down Rosemary's awakened righthand, just "twisted it off", while she still used her sensing and whatnot. Clare on the other hand couldn't release enough yoki to have enough strength to penetrate that male awakened beings armor with a sword, while using the prediction thing.
The quicksword was needed for her, no matter how good she is at the predicting, she didn't have enough strength to do damage to stronger opponents.

And now that they all supress their yoki to the limit, they all have to rely on techniques for power.

About who Miata sensed...could be anyone, she said "someone strong" (if I remember good), but since its not yoki perception, but her seventh sense (yoki perception IS the sixth sense for claymores, as much as I can count) thingy, hell knows what it means, probably not Clare's group since they are 7 and no matter what perspective atleast Clare and Miria are on the same level, so if one of them is the strong, Miata would've said there are others too)
But I hope its Galatea, I miss her, and her ownage.
Edit: Galatea was stated to be powerful even by Riful, 7 years ago, she wasn't third just because of her yoki sensing range.

[TargaryenX]

I'm not quite sure that I follow this whole yoki supressing thing. How is it that people like rafaela and the 7 can fight awakened beings without releasing yoki? I thought yoki was the only thing that made them capable of superhuman feats in the first place. Is it just the power scale of the manga? And if so, would a normal human be able to learn a technique like windcutter? Or do they get some sort of innate power just from being half yoma?

[Nood]

They get an "innate power" by being half yoma, they are all stronger faster then an avarage human, and the amount of yoki one has, affects even the state where they suppress their yoki.
For example Raphaela has the same amount of yoki Luciela had, who became an abyssal one when she awakened, that power even when suőppressed, together with her skill, easily made her the No. 3 in place of Galatea in that generation.
Teresa's amount of yoki was enough to make her fast and strong enough to beat No.2 to No. 5 without much trouble, without releasing any yoki.
Clare on the other hand doesn't have much of a yoki, thats why she, without releasing yoki is weaker then the avarage, ofcourse not counting Irene's arm.

Ofcourse, theres a third factor as training and experience, aswell as speed that can be raised without yoki release.
In other words plot no jutsu on the main characters.
But anyway this is my theory, on what I deciphered from the manga.

[Tyekanik]

A visual of how I see it it - >>> power before yoki release, === is power after yoki release

also this is my haphazard way of depicting, powers are not to scale

Claire
>>>========

Teresa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>===========

Priscilla
>>>>>>>==========

The further right you go, the stronger. Some people are on entirely different levels. Here no matter what claire does, Teresa will release no yoki. However Priscilla can make Teresa release a little yoki to stay ahead of her.

Priscilla would also have to release some yoki to topple claire.

[nx6]

I'm not quite sure that I follow this whole yoki suppressing thing. How is it that people like rafaela and the 7 can fight awakened beings without releasing yoki? I thought yoki was the only thing that made them capable of superhuman feats in the first place. Is it just the power scale of the manga? And if so, would a normal human be able to learn a technique like windcutter? Or do they get some sort of innate power just from being half yoma?

I got the impression after the winter campaign the seven hadn't faced many awakened beings, mostly living in seclusion. Or they were far enough in the mountains that an Eye wasn't able to sense them.

This might also be a scale of power thing. They aren't detectable in a mountain range full of awakened beings. Like I can't hear you speaking because someone else is yelling in the room.

[Guts]

A visual of how I see it it - >>> power before yoki release, === is power after yoki release
also this is my haphazard way of depicting, powers are not to scale
Claire
>>>========
Teresa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>===========
Priscilla
>>>>>>>==========



Somehow I think Claire grew too much stronger when she was awakened. She could have the greatest increment of power than anyone else when she was fully awaken



Suppressing yoki as she usually did might get her as position 47, using her yoki so a large extent might be comparable with 10-20+ position when they were releasing their yoki also to a large extent. However, Should Clare be awakened, her power match or might even superscede a no.2 awakened being.



Hence for example

-: without using any yoki
>: using yoki to large extent or almost reaching limit
=: awakened power


In comparsion

Clare:
-->>>>>>>>>>======================
Position 10-20 Claymores:
----->>>>>=====
2nd position Claymore:
----------->>>>>>>>>>===============



This is what I speculate for Clare power

[Nood]

Most likely, aside from the yoki perception, the only thing she inherited from Teresa is her awakened power, which is obviously loads higher then what her amount of yoki should give. Its way above her level, I think of it as the protagonist's must have. (as, though only once now, acted as the deus ex machina for her)
Usually the more yoki, the bigger the awakening, just like with that No.30 in Riful's torture, just like with Priscilla, but she got that reversed.

Though, Clare didn't get No.47 because she was suppressing her yoki, she wasn't, she was overusing it in every fight because she couldn't handle the yoma otherwise.
I think speculating these powerlevels for positions ispointless, Miata, Raphaela, Clare herself, all the half-awakeneds, they are all exceptions that we should count with.

[Tyekanik]

I was only demonstrating how some people would never have to release any yoki like Teresa, also unawakened normal claymores - also I did say not to scale :p

Yes though, I do agree Claire has a crappy little graph til she awakens.

[Guts]

She might match Priscilla power to a large extend should Clare be awakened


And it seem like she is getting more hang on her own yoki as well, as you can see what happen 7 years later



Anyway can anyone enlighten as what really happen during half awakened? It seem like each time a claymore half awakened she seem to be more powerful even in her normal form.



So does it mean that for half awakened state, one is able to tap a portion of his awakened form even in their normal form (Like for example 10% power that is snatch right out from their supposing awakened form, hence increased their overall combat ability)?

[Nood]

Theres not really power out of the awakened form, its still just yoki.
After they go through a half awakening, their yoki isn't limited as it was before.
So like, before half awakening, lets say 100 "units" of yoki is 100%, then its limited as it was, 10% eyes change and 80% they can't stop the flow of yoki.
After the half awakening the limit changes, they might be able to tap 10 units without their eyecolors changing, because their 80% limit was broken, so as far as they go the harder it gets to come back, but they CAN come back.
So they have easier access to the smaller portion of their yoki, using 30 units and still no need to go as far as to distort their whole body with the effects. They have greater control over it so the quality of the use improves.
The northern campaign proves that easily, Deneve heals her wounds instantly without an eyecolor change, and even Helen and Jean pulls off stuff without it.

As Miria said at the start, they use abilities that usually need one to go 70-80% yoki use.

About Clare, she might, but that has no base whatsoever.
Getting more hang on her yoki? She doesn't use it.

[Guts]

Theres not really power out of the awakened form, its still just yoki.
After they go through a half awakening, their yoki isn't limited as it was before.
So like, before half awakening, lets say 100 "units" of yoki is 100%, then its limited as it was, 10% eyes change and 80% they can't stop the flow of yoki.
After the half awakening the limit changes, they might be able to tap 10 units without their eyecolors changing, because their 80% limit was broken, so as far as they go the harder it gets to come back, but they CAN come back.
So they have easier access to the smaller portion of their yoki, using 30 units and still no need to go as far as to distort their whole body with the effects. They have greater control over it so the quality of the use improves.
The northern campaign proves that easily, Deneve heals her wounds instantly without an eyecolor change, and even Helen and Jean pulls off stuff without it.
As Miria said at the start, they use abilities that usually need one to go 70-80% yoki use.
About Clare, she might, but that has no base whatsoever.
Getting more hang on her yoki? She doesn't use it.



Not just that, From what I believe training itself actually improve both the normal and awakened combat ability. Clare is already seen more powerful beside that she actually control her yoki better after these years (as what u say due to the effect of awakening)


Ritful mention that she will wait for Galatea and Clare to improve their base skills so that when they awakened they can become even much more powerful than if they awaken now (This is why no.1 awakening is known as Abyssal ones.), this make me believe that training itself will increase awakening power as well.

[Nood]

Not just that, From what I believe training itself actually improve both the normal and awakened combat ability. Clare is already seen more powerful beside that she actually control her yoki better after these years (as what u say due to the effect of awakening)
Ritful mention that she will wait for Galatea and Clare to improve their base skills so that when they awakened they can become even much more powerful than if they awaken now (This is why no.1 awakening is known as Abyssal ones.), this make me believe that training itself will increase awakening power as well.
It might be true, but in the end, Teresa wasn't that long in the claymore buisness, I don't think Priscilla had more then half a year of training since she became a hanjinhanyo.
It may improve it, or may not. Riful says that, but aside from being a matter of plot armor (she couldnt just awaken them there and end of show...) or that fact that Riful is pretty clumsy in this, since it seems that out of all these years, she never once succeeded in awakening a claymore and makeing it her ally...she only has Duphe. :D

[Ston3]

Dammit, I thought the extra chapters were done. Anyone know when the extra chapters are supposed to be done?

Cover of this chapter that I found on another forum
http://s02.imagehost.org/1245/ClaymoreES4.jpg
Looks like a young Clare with long hair, Galatea, or Alica/Beth. I can't really tell for sure lol

[Setsuna Ai]

aren't real chapters coming on November?

[Kodoku]

That's what we've been told.

[Yamamoto]

Finally caught up too D:

Man, i hate Ophelia so much XDD

She had a cool insignia and name too XP

[nx6]

OMG, I know! She came across as just a... a man I guess is one way of putting it. I was happy to see her gone.

[Guts]

It might be true, but in the end, Teresa wasn't that long in the claymore buisness, I don't think Priscilla had more then half a year of training since she became a hanjinhanyo.
It may improve it, or may not. Riful says that, but aside from being a matter of plot armor (she couldnt just awaken them there and end of show...) or that fact that Riful is pretty clumsy in this, since it seems that out of all these years, she never once succeeded in awakening a claymore and makeing it her ally...she only has Duphe. :D


But Abyssal one are once no.1 among their generation of Claymore, that is a fact.


For Priscilla case, she is virtually quite different, as in during her awakening, all of her potential power has been released (and that potential exceed that of Teresa, which make me believe potential power is part of the factor in defining the level of one's awakened power), probably its how she became the most powerful awakened being ever to exist.


Anyway lets put it this way, if there was this no.30 claymore who train herself so well that she overtake no.1, it can't be the fact that her awakening is that of a number 30 awakened power which any number 1 claymore could easily settle with.

[TargaryenX]

My theory about the reason Clare is so powerful when awakened is because she's only 1/4 yoma. All the characters assume that makes her weaker, and it's true that she has less yoki than a normal claymore, but a full yoma can't even awaken at all. Isley said that "awakened beings are something that humans become". It would also explain the organization's ulterior motive for letting Clare become a claymore in the first place.

[Nood]

But Abyssal one are once no.1 among their generation of Claymore, that is a fact.
For Priscilla case, she is virtually quite different, as in during her awakening, all of her potential power has been released (and that potential exceed that of Teresa, which make me believe potential power is part of the factor in defining the level of one's awakened power), probably its how she became the most powerful awakened being ever to exist.
Anyway lets put it this way, if there was this no.30 claymore who train herself so well that she overtake no.1, it can't be the fact that her awakening is that of a number 30 awakened power which any number 1 claymore could easily settle with.

Point is, a Number.30 won't overtake an No.1.
They are vastly limited by their amount of yoki.
Potential isn't somekind of reiatsu or anything.
Someone who has the potential to become No.1, wouldn't be No.30.
A No.30 don1t have the potential to become No.1, she might have enough to get as far as a single digit can through training, techniques and whatnot, but thats the limit.

A no.1 ALWAYS had the greatest amount of yoki, this gets proven by the fact that Raphaela, had the same amount as Luciela, and obviously she was No.2 only to Beth/Alicia.

High yoki, allows for high battle potential.
Low yoki on the other hand limits ones potential, unless something unnatural like Clare occurs.

Like, Irene, she was obviously highly trained, No.2 with a reason, her quicksword is still superior to any kind what Clare can produce, and not just in power but technique. Yet she was inferior to claymore Priscilla, even when she suppressed her yoki, simply because limited by her yoki, that was most likely her maximum. As she said "teresa let them go as she knew that no matter what they do they won't become a threat". That was because of their yoki.

[Guts]

Point is, a Number.30 won't overtake an No.1.




Anyway you forgot a point, Firstly Ritful did succeed in making one claymore become awakened, but she was killed as fast as she was awakened because she is too weak. A no.30 claymore!


This already is a very clear evidence that how powerful u are as a claymore will also determine how powerful u are as a awakened being. So a no5 awakening is most likely stronger than a no.6 claymore in general cases.


Dun forget what Ritful said to Jean : "For an awakened being to be powerful, it has to be you, a single digit claymore"

[Ston3]

My theory about the reason Clare is so powerful when awakened is because she's only 1/4 yoma. All the characters assume that makes her weaker, and it's true that she has less yoki than a normal claymore, but a full yoma can't even awaken at all. Isley said that "awakened beings are something that humans become". It would also explain the organization's ulterior motive for letting Clare become a claymore in the first place.

You mean there's more human for the yoma part in her to take over. Very interesting. I wouldn't be surprised if that turned out to be true.

[sherenetms]

^ I think her power comes from the fact that she has teresa's blood and flesh in her. And when teresa was alive, she is in fact extremely powerful. She could defeat priscilla by releasing only a little of her yoki. If Teresa hadn't had pitied priscilla, she wouldn't have died. Her death was not due to her impotence but due to her carelessness. So, in my opinion, being teresa's successor alone is enough to make Clare powerful. But that's only my opinion. The truth has yet to be revealed. =/

[The_Jelly]

Anyone know when they'll release the next volume?

[Ston3]

This months extra chapter has already been scanlated, if that's what you mean. There's a few versions out there. I read Obxist's and Franky-House's versions. I preferred Obxist's.

Obxist's Site (http://scan.mangafever.net/) For some reason it isn't listed in the link below.
MangaHelper's thread list of scanlations/translations/RAWs (http://www.mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19476)

[Guts]

Indeed, lets just hope the story actually get back.


anyway, now we have one more centaur hero among the mangas, Niel and Easley make a good centaur couple i guess lolx

:Haha

[Kenta]

Technically I think Easley's a horse and Neliel's a goat, but yeah that thought did trigger in my head too. :D

[Guts]

Technically I think Easley's a horse and Neliel's a goat, but yeah that thought did trigger in my head too. :D

There have been a huge debate over whether Niel is a goat or centaur


Live with it, it is by no mean a centaur, or a half human half horse.



Nel is going to suffer alot at night because of easley tough dick i suppose :toocool:

[Ston3]

New chapter out. Not an extra :)

Galatea is so ******* amazing.

[Bankai_Zangetsu]

omg theres a new chapter out ??

[nx6]

Yup, it was good. :) But it ends in the middle of a fight. :(

[Alerane]

Just read the new chapter, was good, and now we get to see some of Galatea in action :D

[Setsuna Ai]

she should kill Clarice. What a pain in the ass. Miata is cool but Galatea pwns her.

[Lelouch]

NEW CLAYMORE OUT?!?!?!! thx :D already downloading :p

[Bankai_Zangetsu]

man .. so does that mean well be gettin chapters like normal again ..say .. weekly or is just gonna be a monthly thing or even a tri monthly thing lol

[nx6]

I think it's still monthly. This was 36 pages after all. BUt as long as it comes out every month again I'll be happy. I had forgotten what the story line was again at first, it's been so long since an issue that pertains to the plot was released.

[mangaman16]

Finally back to the normal chapters.This one was good as usual and there's more action to look foward to.Galatea looks sexy although her eyes are messed up.I hope she beats miata and kills clarice or something.

[Insight]

that sound of a youma could be miata awakening but i wonder what gallatea was close to doing. good chapter, and a good twist that's shes actually blind.

[Ston3]

I was thinking there was an awakened being in the area.

Galatea is too cool. When she ripped her nun dress or whatever, I didn't think it could get any better but then she's a strong blind fighter... it's too much lol. I wonder how she got blind. If it was self inflicted, in the middle of some battle, or by the organization...

Edit: Was I the only one that found it funny she called herself Latea? haha

[Nood]

In all the discussions I had about this chapter, everyone seems to be going all "omg how did she get blind" like here, while I go "omg why is she blind"?
Shes a claymore, even an offensive type is able to completly regnerate their eyes, and Galatea is a defensive type, she grows back arms and legs in minutes.
So the best chances are that she did it herself, or took a wound (from who?) and decided not to heal it.

Though, seeing her as a blind nun turned out to be quite a fetish for me, I'm pretty sad that she lived like a normal human for so many years, I hoped she became some mighty trained warrior with half awakening and all (though it might've happened) but obviously, she didnt train herself that much, thus her "new eyes" might be her only upgrade. Which is still pretty badass as not even Teresa could sense completly surpassed yoki, and she is able to now.

[Setsuna Ai]

I don't see why she should bother to train to a half-awakened being seeing as how her purpose (I think) was to completely hide from the Organization and training could only give away her location. Unbeknownst her, they conjured up some freak of a claymore who could sense other claymores and yomas without actually using their yoki for direction.

[Kenta]

Losing her eyes enhanced her yoki sensing considerably so she probably decided not to heal it.

but the truth actually is that, she gained something else in these 7 years.

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee257/DeadGuyKai/1194112191947.jpg

[nx6]

Lol!

[Kenta]

deux ex machina hax

mangekyou sharingan + geass = autowin

:D

what i want to know is, if galatea can sense them coming a mile away, why is she waiting for them to gang up on her? is she that confident that she'll win?

[Lelouch]

lolol sharingan :O?

[Insight]

the ultimate question which one would be best, sharingan or geass... screw that have both.

[Guts]

the ultimate question which one would be best, sharingan or geass... screw that have both.

But whatever the case is... she look so gorgeous by adding those pupils on her blank eye.


She is still the claymore supermodel we knew all along :Domo

[Stormslayer]

Galatea looks sexy although her eyes are messed up.I hope she beats miata and kills clarice or something.

Miata is Priscilla the second and Galatea is Theresa the second if you haven't noticed yet. Therefore, Miata will eventually and inevitably cut off Galatea's head.

[Ston3]

Or because they're the second, it'll end up differently :D

[Tyekanik]

I...find myself cheering miyata/clarice....

I can't help but like that screwy pair, it just sucks they're supposed to kill Galatea. I'd like to see both sides kicking ass which will probably come to pass with whatever started shrieking.

[Stormslayer]

I like to see Galatea's head flying in the air or rolling on the ground. When she is gone, maybe the author will go to a new arc and talk more about Priscilla.

[Ston3]

How can you not like Galatea? She's full of awesome. It's now my goal to find the real life equivalent lol. If she dies, I will be a very, very extremely sad panda.

But she's not gonna die. She's gonna pwn and go on to join Riful or Clare :)

[Stormslayer]

How can you not like Galatea?

Why should I like a blind woman at the brink of impeding death? Priscilla is much more interesting and stronger than her. Just hope miata did a quick job out of her in the next episode so that we can move on to the next story.

But she's not gonna die. She's gonna pwn and go on to join Riful or Clare

Oh, she is going to die. That I'm certain, its the manner of death which I'm not. Maybe she will die in the same way like Teresa. That will be cool, more proof that Miata is indeed Priscilla the second, the Organization ultimate new weapon.

[anubis24354]

Personally I'd like to see Galatea live. She is just such an awesome character that you can't help but love her. However, sadly, I do believe she is going to die. I'd say it's going to look like she will win, but then there will be some sort of weird moment where she'll let her guard down and she'll lose her head.

[Kenta]

She'll die eventually. Not because I want her to die, but it is inevitable with the whole organization wanting her dead. However, I believe she'll give Clare and company some very important information before her demise. In these 7 years, she definitely seen something she wasn't supposed to see.

[Stormslayer]

See? She was blind for god sake and was busy hiding from everyone, humans and monsters............

The only useful information she has is the number of children visiting the church and their names.

[Kenta]

I said something she saw in the organization which resulted in them chasing her, which ultimately leads to her blindness. I thought that was obvious.

[Stormslayer]

I said something she saw in the organization which resulted in them chasing her, which ultimately leads to her blindness. I thought that was obvious.

Sure, she saw the organization was trying and successfully create and use abyssal lords through a pair of claymore twins. After which she left, blinding herself. Clare already knew the existence of that pair. Again that was obvious if you read the earlier chapter carefully.

[Kenta]

I don't know if you just love to pick arguments or whatnot, but at least get your own facts straight. At that point in time, the organization was well aware of her 'knowing too much' but still hasn't pulled the trigger to hunt her. Obviously, something happened afterwards besides the project of Alicia and Beth that finally led to her being chased down. That something is the information she will give to Clare before her death.

[Stormslayer]

You can believe in whatever fanciful conspiracy theory you want. I'm pretty convinced she will be dead in a couple or more chapters much a less have the chance to meet clare. Besides, organization hunt people for reason as simple as leaving the organization and yeah, clare will be on the list soon.

[Tyekanik]

Didn't the claymore council say back when discussing galatea initially that the next set of eyes was getting ready?

Thats it then, she went from having a use to being expendable by the introduction of another member with similar talents. ALso, there has got to be better ways of blinding yourself than raking your blade across your face >.> That is seriously extreme to hide the color of your eyes, and she could regenerate them like nood said earlier if she wanted.

She'll play out her way of the blind samurai a bit before kicking it, though I can even see her living through the series. But thats because she's so much hotter now than before. My logic dies at the end but its all good

[Nood]

Firstofall:
Stormslayer, even if you want her dead so much, we dont care, dont repeat your blatant wishes 4 times in two pages without adding a reason or proof.

And for some real matter, Galatea not fighting for atleast the last few years have made it possible that she'll lose here.
Instead of getting stronger she at best changed specialization, the old Galatea would kill Miata and Clarice without problems, this newone...well she still have the chance that is for certain.

On the other hand, Miata and Clarice won't die, they may lose but dying them is out of question, as they just got developes...or atleast I would like to say this.
It certainly make them unkillable, but thinking back this is Claymore, Flora, Undine both died in 2 pages (Flora in just 1) and never got mentioned again, right after their first character developement, just like Miata and Clarice's now.

I've given up on predicting Claymore too deeply, ebcause I predict it using my experience in shonen mangas, which Norihiro tends to follow at some parts and go against at others.

Galatea is blind for a reason, if its by her own will then she didn't become weaker, or she has a reason to be able to perceive yoki so perfectly. (coincidence that riful is searching for someone just like her or what)

The organization couldnt have just blindened her, they don1t have the power to, yes Alicia is strong and all but Galatea senses them from miles away having abyssal power, and if she would've enough time she would just have the ability to distrupt their soul link leading to a fatal failure. (which she wouldnt do but the organization wouldnt risk it imo, as its another uncontrolled abyssal one, who in fact isnt even itnelligent and is trained only to kill)

We also dunno whats happening there right now?
Miata to release her powers? how is that useful, powers released means advantage to Galatea.
and what was that howling...

I dont see anyone dying in this battle, just before the church the worst claymore and some unstable kid beating former number 3 who can tell when did they pee their bed the last time out of their yoki, who is also Clares ally, in the place where Clare took her half-awakening.

Now that we know that Galatea still sensed them even through the suppressants, it means that she really could've leave beforehand, letting them wander forever as Miata's seventh sense is based on pure luck.
She faced them though and not with a "time to end my own life" yell thats for sure.
shes fighting seriously, as someone who wants to win, and I think, as stated above, a character of Galatea's caliber (in developement and connections with people) seem much more less likely to die then those who are in the same predicament as Pieta girls were.

My guess is that none will die, Miata is needed for whatever her reason for existence is, Clarice cant die or Miata awakens, and Galatea simply won't cut it with a sudden "blarg I'm blind, blarg I'm dead" comeback, after 7 years.

[anubis24354]

I think Clarice's fear of Miata might cause her to hesitate at a critical moment and give Galatea the opporitunity she needs to kill Miata (or Clarice, which would send Miata into a rage, and then we have another abyssal).

[Kodoku]

I'm quite sure no one is going to die- Nood summed up why pretty well. However, I, personally, think Miata will beat Galatea. Miata is fast and strong normally, and with more yoki she'll get stronger and faster. She has no hesitation either, so Galatea's funny ability won't work. I think Miata will simply be too fast and strong for her; brute force will win in the end.

[Ston3]

Manga-Sketchbook has released their version of v10. I picked it up just for the collection of it. Gonna read it later and see if it's a big difference in translating/quality.

Also, a while back Nood posted a montage of Claymore or whatever. Just wondering if someone can tell me what song is used in it. I've just watched it again when going through my Claymore manga folder and I really like the song lol. "You should fight!" It grew on me.

[Nood]

The song is Monster, from a very creative band named "03", so you can google all you want you'll never find it.

Sweating blood I found a longer version in an online streaming video, and ripped it off, and enjoyed it so much I became bored of it.
I even uploaded it to sendspace to share.
And then, I deleted it, and lost it, and veoh deleted my sendpsace link, and I totally dont remember what I wrote in it.
So the point is, I dont have it anymore, your only leads on finding it:

the ppl in 03 are:
Vocal - Furuichi Ayako ;
Guitar - Akiyama Tomoe ;
Bass - T.M. Stevens ;
Drums - Soul Toul

[glo6688]

i don't want Galatea to die! Now that she's so wicked without eyes, i want to see her do some real cool fighting! But on the other hand, Galatea has probably reached the highest possible limit for reading youki. Miata is probably extremely fast, too fast for Galatea. Unless someone (like Clare) comes to save her, her head will be rolling pretty soon.

[Kenta]

Just read ch 75.


Title: Crimson Rain

The awakened being is not Galatea nor Miata

The awakened being is a former no.2

Galatea deliberately lured Miata and Clarice to the town so they could help defeat no. 2

Miata attacks Galatea relentlessly instead

Galatea lost her left arm

Next chapter won't be out until Jan 4.

[Insight]

yeah looked at the raw and that awakened being is probably one of the oddest we've seen.
i think though if clarice got killed in the crossfire then miata would go berserk and awaken aswell. then we could have the battle of the awakened.

[Nood]

F*ck norihiro, comes back and starts to dismember my Galatea right off the bat...

Atleast we got some real tentacle porn, was much expected...
This is why I hate Clarica, okay naive, okay stupid, okay weak, but here she goes going on the inhumane stuff without sweating, how can the weakest claymore just ignore the awakened being there? she frickin fainted the last time she saw one awakened being, and this hoe is a lot stronger then those.

And man Galateas skin ripped up cause of the yoki use (the right arm) -.- she weakened a lot. :(

[Ston3]

F*ck norihiro, comes back and starts to dismember my Galatea right off the bat...

Seconded! What the ****... And wtf is with Miata fighting, and lol at Clarice saying 'Our'. ***** doesn't do shit. Go die.

And man Galateas skin ripped up cause of the yoki use (the right arm) -.- she weakened a lot. :(

Her skin didn't rip. She had a long glove sleeve thing on her arm, part of the Nun outfit, which ripped.

And, who got Galatea's arm? Miata or the AB? I can't really tell what happened there.

[Stormslayer]

Nice job to Miata. She certainly lived up to my expectation. Hope she finished her job next episode and owns the Awakened one in the next few so that we can move on to see what Priscilla is ploting right now.

[Insight]

clarice pissed me off just following ordersand not helping defeat the awakened. i suppose after spending so long with people who are rebelling against the order spending time with someone who obeys it was bound to.

[Kodoku]

And, who got Galatea's arm? Miata or the AB? I can't really tell what happened there.

The awakened. Miata and Galatea had swords crossed, and the AB attacked from above. Galatea made the attack spray around them instead, so they were safe. Galatea leapt back, and both Miata and the awakened attacked as she landed/was in the air about to land. Some point in that second attack she lost her arm.

At a guess, I'd say if Miata's sword hit there'd be bigger problems than the loss of a limb, and the way the awakened is all smug to boot would suggest she was the one to get it.

[_Ink]

Ho, this chavs it up a lot, HOW THE HELL did a FORMER no.2 never joined the winter war? Plus one that is so powerful... durrr...
and to think the three big ones did nothing but fight among themselves when they could spend time checking to see if they missed some big fish they could recruit.

(although this usually results in a bloodbath)

anyhow, this giant crab lady was hot, I like the design for this one the most
(after Riful of course, because she is supposed to be loli)

[Zanga]

This Former number 2 is probably after Teresa's age, but before the Clare age. Basically, she's probably Ileena's replacment after Pri cut her up.

[Kodoku]

Why would she have joined the Winter War? I should think there are plenty that didn't. Anyway, most of those (all perhaps?) following Easly were male, and as there have been far more generations of females, you'd think there were far more of them out there. So, way things look there are far more awakened beings out there than we've seen so far.

Also, number two means the second strongest -in her generation-, so she might not be that strong compared to others from other generations. So far, she doesn't seem to have been that much of a threat. The only other awakened number two we've seen, Rigaldo, seemed much more dangerous.

[anubis24354]

I may be putting too much to this, but didn't say say "in this form I work like a normal woman" implying that she might not quite be in her true form just yet?

[Ston3]

Nah, the way I saw it as was that she's acting like that scene when Ophelia put all her human self into the end of her tail. This AB is doing the same thing, I'm assuming, by putting all her human self into an end and having the rest of her Awakened body extending out of her hair. I explained it really crappily but you should get the jist of it. And by "in this form, I work like a normal woman," she meant she has a vagina. teehee

[Setsuna Ai]

Why would she have joined the Winter War? I should think there are plenty that didn't. Anyway, most of those (all perhaps?) following Easly were male, and as there have been far more generations of females, you'd think there were far more of them out there. So, way things look there are far more awakened beings out there than we've seen so far.

Also, number two means the second strongest -in her generation-, so she might not be that strong compared to others from other generations. So far, she doesn't seem to have been that much of a threat. The only other awakened number two we've seen, Rigaldo, seemed much more dangerous.
It's a bit unfair to compair Rigaldo to other female claymores since it was a given that men had more potential and strength as claymores. And we shouldn't underestimate this no. 2 person. Even Galatea said she only has 50/50 chance even with Miata.

[Ston3]

50/50 = on par with each other. But Miata isn't helping Galatea and the AB isn't attacking Miata. I hope the AB decides to kill Miata now that Galatea has one arm, or at some point. /angryfanboy

[nx6]

Clarice is being a major ***** saying she wasn't there to take care of the Awakened Being and just to get Galatea. I kept expecting her to tell Miata to quit chasing Galatea for now and focus on the AB.

It's not like the AB is going to just let them live if they leave her alone I'm sure.

Side note: Too bad the anime is over, I would have enjoyed seeing these last couple chapters animated.

[Kenken]

o.O

what chapter is this?

[nx6]

75. The one that came out a couple days ago. It's up on OneManga if you don't want to download it.

[Kenta]

well, clarice is inexperienced, so i think we have to cut her some slack in this situation... but she's the only one that can control miata, so she has to come to her senses soon or one of the guys will have to smack it to her.

[Kenken]

seeing how determined Clarice seems to be, that'll be hard, and as for the soldiers to smack some sense into her...she may be the weakest claymore in history, but i think she can still take care of some soldiers.

Or Galatea must find a way to make Miata attack the awakened being, or she'll be losing more than her arm.

[sherenetms]

well, clarice is inexperienced, so i think we have to cut her some slack in this situation... but she's the only one that can control miata, so she has to come to her senses soon or one of the guys will have to smack it to her.

I hope that, whoever he is, will smack her real hard!! She's seriously starting to get on my nerves. Even if they managed to kill galatea, i dont think miata alone will ever be able to get rid of the AB. It's just an added chance for the AB to annihilate the entire city.

P.s: I hope nothing worse will happen to galatea. She is, after all, my fav char in this series.

[nx6]

I hope that, whoever he is, will smack her real hard!!

Must.... resist... prevy... thoughts.

[Kodoku]

It's a bit unfair to compair Rigaldo to other female claymores since it was a given that men had more potential and strength as claymores. And we shouldn't underestimate this no. 2 person. Even Galatea said she only has 50/50 chance even with Miata.

Who said male's were stronger? Considering Teresa and Priscilla seem to be the two strongest claymores in history that seems to be flawed. If anything, men had less potential as claymores, because they awoke before they really got anywhere. Isley is the strongest of them, and he basically sucks compared to Priscilla.

[anubis24354]

The only thing I remember being specifically stated about male Claymores was that they didn't work because releasing for them felt orgasmic so they didn't have the willpower to resist and became abominations. Although I wouldn't mind if it turned out that Isley was the strongest, I rather like his character.

At this point I don't see Galatea surviving. I'd bet that what probably happens is Clarice gets injured, Miata goes off on the AB, Galatea helps her beat it, but then Miata instantly goes on the offensive against Galatea once the AB is out of the way and Clarice is proven OK.

[Nood]

Teh guards around, the two guys who fought together with clare can make Clarice take a better choice...they could give atleast a bit of trouble to Clare, Clarice has her yoki suppressed and she lost to a random oak tree.

Male claymores werent ever stated to be obviously stronger, they said that the organisation tried with males because of their obvious advantage as soldiers, it is unkown if that bodily advantage was nullified with gaining their yoma powers, or not.

Deducing stuff from "the strongest two are females so males arent superior" is pointless, there were 1 male generation and 78 (or 79) female, so the oragnisation had at best 50-100 chances turn a male into a claymore that could have potential alike to Priscilla's, while they had atleast 4000 chances to create a female one, and they did, Priscilla and Teresa. We might aswell assume that if there would've been 4000 male claymores created there would be one with equal powers, and then we could see if their gender makes a diffrence in their power or not.

Numbers doesnt matter, this awakened being is from an unkown generation, Clare's generation is was horribly weak compared to Teresa's and so on, the power of a "No.2" is only enough to give us the idea that shes enough to trouble anyone in the current No.1 to No.10. Considering Galatea needs real help with her, while she toyed around with Duphe, is enough to say that she is quite strong compared to those awakened beings of pieta.

Wall of text does 100 dmg.

[Ston3]

It's unfair to use Priscilla or Teresa as a comparison to any Claymore. They're exceptions. There's nothing that clearly states that male claymores are stronger or weaker than female claymores. Males are less practical but that doesn't not mean they are weaker. It makes sense to use males first anyways because they are physically more dominant. Besides, it also allowed for surprises later on and let's not forget how on Clare's first AB hunt, they were all surprised at how it was a male and how strong he was, even if he was defeated due to plot devices IMO, to prove how powerful sensing Yoki is and Clare's potential.

At this point I don't see Galatea surviving. I'd bet that what probably happens is Clarice gets injured, Miata goes off on the AB, Galatea helps her beat it, but then Miata instantly goes on the offensive against Galatea once the AB is out of the way and Clarice is proven OK.

While possible, it's improbable that'd happen. The AB knows that having two claymores fighting against her would be troublesome, despite how proud she might be. Miata fighting against Galatea works to her advantage. She'll work with Miata to take out Galatea since Galatea doesn't want to hurt Miata, and the AB won't give a flying shit about Clarice since she is such an insignficant speck compared to anything. However, now that Galatea lost her arm, who knows what she'll do. After Galatea is taken care of, the AB would be free to do whatever she wants, depending on what Clarice and Miata do. I'd be glad if the AB is so arrogant that she'd just kill Miata to flex her muscles. :D

Of course, I say this with all hope that Galatea survives in any way possible. Just reasoning on what the AB must be thinking. And of course, it might not end up that way. It's all at the whim of the mangaka.

and she lost to a random oak tree.

lmao. Agreed with what Nood said above too.

[Nood]

What I want to see from Galatea is instant arm regen, now!
Its hard to accept it but Miata is horribly strong it seems, though I dunno why Galatea didnt use her trick yet on either Miata or the awakened being.
I have a bad feeling about this either way, Galatea comes back, she didnt do anything for years to lure out a 100% random awakened being that she could kill, completly blind when it doesnt make sense, and her cool return consisted of like 3 panels until she started struggling and losing.
Though her smile is as beutiful as ever.

Also:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a109/sin_gfx/1196812366684.jpg

[Insight]

i think partly she is surpised by how crazy miata is. you can't really predict having to fight/ ally yourself with someone like that.

but i think she has something up her sleave. it seems odd to introduce her just to kill her. they may ahve well just said she died during the 7 years then bring her back just to kill her.

[Ston3]

What I want to see from Galatea is instant arm regen, now!
Its hard to accept it but Miata is horribly strong it seems, though I dunno why Galatea didnt use her trick yet on either Miata or the awakened being.
I have a bad feeling about this either way, Galatea comes back, she didnt do anything for years to lure out a 100% random awakened being that she could kill, completly blind when it doesnt make sense, and her cool return consisted of like 3 panels until she started struggling and losing.
Though her smile is as beutiful as ever.
Also:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a109/sin_gfx/1196812366684.jpg

Galatea used her trick on the AB to protect herself and Miata. The AB commented on it and said that it won't work again.

Also, that pic is awesome. I already have it on my comp. If only it was desktop size.

[EndlessSky]

I wonder how Miata is gonna handle this battle with a Awakened being. So, far we have only see here against the weaker normal yoma so should be interesting. Although, what is going to happen to Galatea after they defeat the Awakened being? Is Clarice and Miata gonna finish her off or are they gonna let her go once more?

[Ston3]

Your post confuses me. Miata isn't fighting the awakened being and seems to have no intention to do so.

[EndlessSky]

Hmmmm, I thought she was helping with fighting the awakened being or is Galatea the only one doing that?

[Zanga]

Miata and Clarice are here only for Galatea. So I guess Miata will fight the Ab is G happens to die(god forbid).


Why do I have a feeling Clare will save the day....

[Kodoku]

Miata is horribly strong it seems, though I dunno why Galatea didnt use her trick yet on either Miata or the awakened being.

Someone else covered the awakened. For Miata, it won't work because she has no hesitation. Duph had some uncertainty, so it worked on that. Miata is completely fearless and crazy, so there's no room for Galatea to get into her head.


Though her smile is as beutiful as ever.


Agreed. Love the pic.

[_Ink]

Spoilers, soon, this will escalate to a full scale battle, the Black seven will pass by with their Party Horse Cart and all shall end in shambles and tears.

AB: " ZOMGHAX WHY ARE YOU ALL SO STRONG?!"
B7: "We are from SPARTA, need I say more *points to the north end*"
AB: "LOLWUT?"
Miata & C: "OH DAMN, WHY CANT YOU ASS HOLES LEAVE US TO THE BATTLE"
B7: " WE CAN't we are just nosy with everyone you know///"
Galatea :" LOL PlozHelpsIamFUCKINGlosinghere!"
B7: "NO LOL, we can't cause we don't really care"

Clare: "NOOOO, we must help!"
B7 : "LOL OK, you go ahead, we will just pretend that we are helping while you pwn the bad guys k"

AB: "Oh please... can we get this on or do I have to stab myself?"

[Ston3]

LOL

That's pretty awesome :D

[Kenta]

Agatha is some seriously hot stuff, but probably most of the claymore girls would look good if they get their natural hair color back and bare naked anyway. :dribble:long hair got bonus points though. :Haha

[nx6]

I think the design of this awakend being is a little, I dunno, cop-out. I mean, it's more like they created a naked chick and an organic flying-saucer and shit! now we gotta connect them somehow! Oh, lets make her hair grow down into the body.

Riful was a cool character design. This just kinda reeks of fanservice.

[Ston3]

I agree but naked chick isn't part of her awakened self. It's the same way Ophelia gathered all her human self into the end of her tail. This awakened being is doing the same thing. At least that's the way I see it, although I'm not sure where her head would be at if she didn't gather all her human self into a form.

[mangaman16]

Seriously i hope the AB kills Clarice for being a dumb@$$.Then miata would have reason to fight the AB and leave galatea alone.It hurt me to see her lose her hand.That AB's form is the nastiest looking imo after luciela.Well the bottom part but the top part is probally the best looking in Claymore.

[nx6]

Well the bottom part but the top part is probally the best looking in Claymore.

I've always found it interesting that an AB can move their human and yoki parts around like one moves a pink lump of clay inside a green one. Since we have this full body view we can see that she's moved all her humanity to the top portion, to the point that she no longer has even the disfiguring Yoki tissue in her abdomen that we've learned normal Claymore have.

[Ston3]

I thought Claymores lose that disfigured abdomen after they half-awaken or awaken.

[Kenta]

i'm still hoping to see that grotesque (supposedly) abdomen of theirs for myself, they made it seem rather sick.

yeah, after they awaken, they can refined any part of their body to look like a normal woman.

[nx6]

Yes, like when Clare awakened her limbs. Once she returned to Claymore, the arm she'd borrowed off Irene no longer looked weird on her body. It appeared to look like one of her own instead.

[Nood]

Awakened beings are basically able to form their body any way they want to between their human forms and awakened forms.
partially awakening a part of their body is just a thing, this is the same, she simply formed a part of her awakened body including the "head" (and vagina :P) into her normal humanoid form.
This girls form is cool IMO, and if you say that Riful is more unique then you need to read/watch some more monster stuff.

The abdomen wound disappears once that part of the bodyx assumes the awakened form. Proved by the fact that awakened beings dont have it, normal claymore's belly shots are intentionally avoided, and Jean who had it normal after the whole body awakening.

On the other hand I didnt see anything strange with Irene's arm on Clare to begin with, she just kept the belt stuff on it until the awakening tore it off.

[EndlessSky]

Yea, it was just the clothing that was different on Irene's arm.

I think its pretty obvious that the awakened beings can switch from human and yoma forms especially Easley, Rigirdo, and all the others that had a purely human form. I think it is more of controlling the flow of yoki though.

As it has been explained with many of the abilities and etc of controlling it and its flow through parts of the body etc. It seems the Awakened beings just flow all of their yoki into one area and none in the other resulting in forms like Ophelia's and Agatha's.

Even Claymores can do this to some degree like putting Yoki into one arm or leg etc.

[Kenta]

Who are you most like?

Take the quiz to find out.

http://www.gotoquiz.com/who_are_you_most_like_31

I resemble Clare.

[nx6]

Oh, Awsome!

Me:

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/3563/mygraphlp6.jpg

[Kodoku]

Riful for me as well. Miria came second, then Ophelia. More importantly, to my delight Raki barely even registered as a vague possible similarity in any way, even though I said I was male. Awesome.

[Stormslayer]

Its Riful for me as well (Aren't we all the same?). Ophelia is a close second followed by Teresa (WTF!!!). I'm surprised that Isley is not in my radar..........

[EndlessSky]

Oddly enough, I keep getting Riful no matter how many different combonations of answers, etc I put together.

[Nood]

90% Ophelia, 80% Riful, then a 40% Teresa...
Pretty fitting. Even though its just another obvious quiz where you know which question will make you what.

[Kodoku]

Well, yeah, but we can still have our immature little fun, can we not?

[Barbaroi]

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee231/x-Barbaroi-x/untitled.jpg

WooT!! Thx nx6 for the tip on how to get that to work!!

[nx6]

90% Ophelia, 80% Riful, then a 40% Teresa...
Pretty fitting. Even though its just another obvious quiz where you know which question will make you what.

I try to take those types of quizzes seriously, in the sense that I don't choose answers so I get a certain result. I'm actually rather baffled by the blurb for mine, since I didn't feel like I made "amoral" choices. Mostly that I would fight when needed and not just leap headfirst but create a plan and be halfway strategic. And I said I liked children, but didn't want any of my own. :p

[Barbaroi]

Lol, I said a lot of the same things. And I was the same way. I answered the questions to the best of my character, or what I feel I would do in a situation without answering for a desired result but instead to see who the tests thinks I'm most alike. I did the same for the Bleach one.

[Ston3]

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/Ston3/claymore_test.jpg

I tend to hate tests like these because I'm not just a yes or no guy. I answer in degrees, if that makes sense. As you can see from the result, I'm a pretty all around guy.

[Nood]

Ofc I answer the questions as they should be, but you just cant help but feel that "ah this'll make me Ophelia a lot"etc while answering, which is lame, if there would be thought put into it and made with more distant questions/answers it would be more "enjoyable" to fill these quizes.

[nx6]

Well, it helps if you don't know what the answers are I guess. When I did the "What color are you" quiz, I didn't even know how many colors there were, let alone the traits of each one.

But anyway, I can honestly say I was not trying to get Riful, I didn't even know awakened beings were in the results, and I certainly don't want to be associated with Orphilia, who I thought was just a sadistic b***h.

[Lelouch]

^_^ I scored almost total Ophelia. After that I was Riful , lol Raki (........)

[Kodoku]

Since we're practically the little Claymore club in here, as only four or five of us ever really discuss (/argue viciously about) it, I thought I'd wish you guys and gals a Merry Christmas full of yoma slaying and raki hating! And a Happy New Year to boot!

[Kenta]

Nothing really happen in ch 76, kind of a slow chapter.

[nx6]

/me returns from reading the chapter.

You're right. That was kinda a letdown. Well, at the very least we know the AB's head is not really her head, or not imporant like her head should be, ect.

Here's hoping for a better chapter next year. XD

[Kenta]

It was nice to see Agatha took advantage of the situation and now both Galatea and Miata are both severely injured. I think it's safe to say that Miata will either awaken next chapter or someone's going to intervene because there's no way they can win as they are now.

[Kodoku]

Miata won't awaken any time soon, I don't think. Other than that, have to agree- mostly pointless.

[Zanga]

She'd awaken if her mama was in trouble.

[nx6]

Chapter 77 has been scanned by Franky House.

[onemanga link] (http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/77/01/) [rapidshare] (http://rapidshare.com/files/89737904/Claymore_77__FH_.zip) [sendspace] (http://www.sendspace.com/file/d7p2h3) [megaupload] (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NGPIMCO2)

[db]

As always another painful cliffhanger and lol @ miata reaction

[nx6]

I wouldn't call it a cliffhanger. We're about to start a fight. It's not like Bleach with Zaraki slashing Noitora and all we see in the last frame is blood but we have no idea of the damage.

It has more of a "Here comes the Calvary" feel to it. Especially with all the North Warriors gathered at the end. This seems slightly set up so Clarice can meet Clare, both of them being the "weakest" warriors of their respective generations.

[Kenta]

clarice can fight. that makes you wonder if her colored hair mean something after all. a 'true no. 47' shouldn't have been able to surprise and cut off a few of those tentacles like that.

with clare and miria there, this AB is pretty much toasted. what a shame.

[Ston3]

Lucky 7 to the rescue. Could Clare be any more bad ass :D I'm so happy that this means that Galatea probably won't die. And hopefully, this means that we're back to having the focus on Clare and not Clarice.

Although, it's interesting how Clarice was able to dodge and fight. Even more interesting to me was how Galatea who could sense Clarice and Miata's supressed yoki couldn't sense Clare's or the Lucky 7's yoki.

[nx6]

I don't want to say the p-word, but this chapter did have a little of that "where did that powerup come from?" going on with it.

Also, how do you reattach a severed arm without a functioning one to hold onto the limb with?

Still, not a bad chapter. Next one's gonna be badass though.

[Graffik]

^I just caught up yesterday, and was wondering the same thing...:P

But now I am interested in how this will turn out, I had suspected the 7 showing up and intervening, and wanted to see how it'll turn out, I wonder how Galatea will take it with the way they hide their yoki and all.

[Ston3]

Also, how do you reattach a severed arm without a functioning one to hold onto the limb with?

Yeah. It's probably why it was done so crappily. I was wondering how she even got to the hands.

[Kenken]

Clare to the rescue :Domo

[Neko Rae]

Who are you most like?
Take the quiz to find out.
http://www.gotoquiz.com/who_are_you_most_like_31
I resemble Clare.
I got

1.Miria
2.Galetea
3.Riful
4.Ophelia
5.Raki
6.Clare
7.Illena

Raki wasn't last? D:

[Graffik]

o:

I got Galatea :P... >.< I'm a guy
1. Galatea
2. Miria
3. Teresa
4. Clare
5. Ilena
6. Riful
7. Raki
8. Ophelia?!?!

Cool, I thought I'd get an uber pushover like Raki... I got the elites ftw!!

The improvements that the cavalry made are pretty damn extreme. I'm not entirely sure, but are they able to use their Yoki given strength/abilities, without using the Yoki at all??? Because how the hell did Clare use the windcutter, and Miria the Mirage without and Yoki..

:P This is what I get for starting the manga late. :P

[malfuncti0n]

I'm most like Ophelia. =o

[Graffik]

o:

Ophelia is bad, how could you be like her??

Is the next chapter coming out at the end of the month?

[nx6]

Probably a week later, since the current chapter was released on the 6th, and that was a speed scan group.

[Kenta]

Chapters come out at the beginning of the month, the next one is out March 4 I believe.

[opm]

Who would like to agree or at least consider the possibility that Teresa was still stronger than the twins (maybe not combined) but looking at her power as an individual, heck that was crazy!

[Habanero]

Damn... Stumbled across this one last friday and read all the chapters during the weekend. Gotta say I'm lovin it :p

Took the quiz too:

1.Teresa
2.Riful
3.Galatea
4.Clare
5.Ophelia
6.Ilena
7.Miria
8.Raki

Bad-assness! :)

[Graffik]

Who would like to agree or at least consider the possibility that Teresa was still stronger than the twins (maybe not combined) but looking at her power as an individual, heck that was crazy!

I'd have to agree, Teresa was able to take on awakened beings [weaker ones] without so much as using a bit of her Yoki, it was only when fighting large numbers or stronger ones that she used any yoki at all. Funny thing is, she never even came close to awakening, just imagine the power she'd have if she did :P

The twins on the other hand are going all out on awakened beings [even if it is small or large groups]. If Teresa had awakened, she'd probably be as bad-ass as Priscilla... *shivers*

[db]

Ripped apart, as expected :)

[Habanero]

Ripped apart, as expected :)

Yep, owned harshly :p

http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/78/ - in case someone hasn't read it yet

[Alex26]

on last page, she healed her eyes? -____-

[nx6]

I'm starting to get confused there are so many Claymore. Is everyone adopting each other's techniques? I thought the drill sword was Jean's move. And since when has Clare been able to do the Windcutter? I thought she had just gained better control of the Flash Sword.

I don't recognise the Claymore with the single braid at all (the one so good at sensing where the AB's weak spot was).

[Blair]

It was Jean's move but I think Helen mastered it while they've been hiding out; same with Clare mastering Flora's attacks.

[Graffik]

^Yea, Clare also altered the windcutter a bit, since there is almost no yoki involved.

Next will be Galatea healing her eyes, just to see them.. ;P

And I believe the single braid was among the lower numbers who survived, somewhere in the 20's I think.

[Wraith1989]

ahh I simply love claymore. I think its on par with bleach for greatness.. maybe even a little better >.>


All i can say is: Phantom miria= awesome
Teresa of the faintsmile= awesome
Clare= awesome
Raki= wish he had died -.-

[Kenta]

much better imo, if only the chapters come out quicker...

i really want galatea to join the fab 7 but i guess it's not happening since she'll probably stay to protect the town and all.

[Guts]

ahh I simply love claymore. I think its on par with bleach for greatness.. maybe even a little better >.>


All i can say is: Phantom miria= awesome
Teresa of the faintsmile= awesome
Clare= awesome
Raki= wish he had died -.-


Claymore is much better than bleach imo... It doesnt drag in battle... No so much lame stuff or talking between characters and most importantly the power level and capability seem to be quite logical so far... (Unlike in bleach Zaraki suddenly become 1xx more power and pwnzor noit who kick ichigo ass)

[Kenta]

Shonen are more made to please teenage fans. Seinen has a smaller fanbase and the author can stick to his thoughts and not stir off track to adjust to what fans want.

Claymore is way better than Bleach, no doubt.

[Guts]

Shonen are more made to please teenage fans. Seinen has a smaller fanbase and the author can stick to his thoughts and not stir off track to adjust to what fans want.

Claymore is way better than Bleach, no doubt.

Make the level power a bit more balanced and logical and it might come close to Claymore (Since the content wasnt that bad also)


The power level was wat really turn me off becz it way too illogical, doesnt even make sense at all!!! How the hell did Byakuya/Zaraki became so friggin powerful all of sudden?


And the botak guy (forget his name, only know he is 3rd seat in 11th division) whom is known for the first shinigami that Ichigo has pwn suddenly has Bankai up his sleeve... Zzz den how the hell he end up getting own by Ichigo that time when he was still sooo weak???


Anyway back to topic, claymore has much more logical progress of power... Altough it a bit exggerated, still its within acceptable range. (The champion for the best skill progress would still be Berserk for me, seriously that manga deserve everything!)

[Zanga]

First of all Byakuya and Zaraki suddenly didn't get so powerful. The Espada just aren't as strong as you thought they were. Which was an awesome move pulled by Kubo. If you're going to hate a series, hate it for the right reasons.


But anyways, Claymore is still better than Bleach.

I, correct me if I'm wrong. But I don't think we've seen Raki at all after the timeskip -.-

[Habanero]

First of all Byakuya and Zaraki suddenly didn't get so powerful. The Espada just aren't as strong as you thought they were. Which was an awesome move pulled by Kubo.

I think there's a lot to debate on that statement to be honest. In my opinion it was retarded to make the espada so weak all of the sudden. Anyway, this should be about claymore :p

Claymore took quite the turn during the timeskip. Claire became pwnsauce even though she was far from top notch before. She had one ability making her powerfull and unique, but now she's just become all-round über. It would have been difficult to develop the story without giving her a decent power-up though, so it's all good I guess.

I just wish the chaps were realeased a bit more frequently... :whatevah:

[Kenta]

From what I've heard, apparently there's no Claymore this month. :sad

[nx6]

Oh, dammit!

I saw you'd posted and thought it might be a new chapter announcement, now I see it is exactly the opposite.

[Graffik]

There goes my hopes.

I run on this every month. >.<

[Kenta]

Yeah, no Claymore, no Berserk, and no Gantz! I'm in despair!

[nx6]

There was new Vagabond back on the 25th. That's somethin'.

[Guts]

First of all Byakuya and Zaraki suddenly didn't get so powerful. The Espada just aren't as strong as you thought they were. Which was an awesome move pulled by Kubo. If you're going to hate a series, hate it for the right reasons.
-.-

You got to be kidding, Espada not as strong as we think... Grimmjow no.6 trash bankai Ichigo hands down,

With one arm he is able to hold off Ogrichi Cero and almost immune to Lukia attack... After which he still struggle against Vaizard Hiyroki...i


One arm ONLY


Bankai Ichigo has been thrash 2 times we all seen it... Only with masked power and Bankai den won by a slightest bit... And Zaraki who was a loser to Shinka Ichigo suddenly thrash an opponent even above Grimmjaw...

And since Bayakuya defeat no7, we could see him as coming damn close to Grimmjaw if not supersede him, which make Bankai Ichigo look like a stand-aside candidate among all these great battles...


Oh yeah are we forgetting suddenly we got 1 vice captain and 1 3rd seater (loser to Shinka Ichigo) who has bankai suddenly and den another weak shinigami (Lukia) suddenly has the power of a officer?


All these evidence of confusing power level existed long time before this...

[berserk]

Why is there Bleach convo in Claymore thread? :confused:

Well back on topic, took a gander at some of the manga at the local bookstore, came across Claymore, figured since I've heard of it but never bothered to check it out, why not? Well I did and I can add this to my list of "Manga To Read". Nice artwork and I like the whole concept of Half Human Half Monster Knights. Gonna keep up on this one.

[Klavier Gavin]

Claymore is a pretty interesting manga, I'm now waiting for the latest release on OneManga.

I wonder, what would the next release of Claymore show?

[Graffik]

I gotta wait until the beginning of May for the next chapter. >.>

@ Berserk, it sure is one hell of a good manga, just takes too long to come out :P

[Lelouch]

Rawr , when is it coming out for gods sake? ????

[nx6]

LOL. Like three more weeks prolly.

[Klavier Gavin]

The ghosts of the 7 warriors actually improved so much... well... "ghosts"

Even the girl who tries reading the yoki.... Wasn't she like a weaksauce in the past?

[Kenken]

3 weeks? it really takes a long time to get a chapter done huh?

[nx6]

Well, we aren't getting a new chapter this month, otherwise it would have been out last week. Hence we have to wait for next month now. ;)

[Freya]

I really love Claymore. I loved the anime and now I love the manga. I read it on the following site:
http://manga.bleachexile.com/claymore.html
Clare is such a UBER-cool character!! I really like her little man Raki too. unfortunately the manga releases come out very spaced apart. :(

[Alerane]

Thats the trouble with monthly releases XD

I'm more of a fan of the other Claymores than Clare, she's too impassive imo

[HollowVizard]

I've been wondering about this show my friend says its good. Yet, to me there is to much blood gushing everywhere. What do u say is it good/is it worth watching?

-HV

[Barbaroi]

I've been wondering about this show my friend says its good. Yet, to me there is to much blood gushing everywhere. What do u say is it good/is it worth watching?

-HV

Imo. This is one of the better animes of last year. I would definitely recommend watching it and I do recommend it to anyone who hasn't seen it anytime they ask for something to watch. I thought it was really good.

[Alerane]

I haven't watched it, only read, and I've good and bad about the anime.

[nx6]

I've been wondering about this show my friend says its good. Yet, to me there is to much blood gushing everywhere. What do u say is it good/is it worth watching?

-HV

Yeah, the gore is certainly a prominant feature of the show. If you don't like it don't watch this, the whole anime series is like that. The show was okay overall because it followed the manga's storeline up till the last three episodes.

[Freya]

^@NX6: I agree that the anime was pretty good. The animation was nice. I really enjoy the story line in the manga. With the new twist of it:jumping ahead seven years, I can't wait to see a grown up Raki. What has he been up to? He'll be a man now so there is possible ClareXRaki action in the future.

[nx6]

That's really not a spoiler since that started six months ago at least.

Edit: Chapter 66, which was originally translated in May 2007, so almost a year.

[Freya]

That's really not a spoiler since that started six months ago at least.

Edit: Chapter 66, which was originally translated in May 2007, so almost a year.

It's just some of the people who were chatting in this thread haven't seen read it yet, that's why I put it in spoiler tags.

What do you think is going to happen, or has happened with Raki? I feel like it has been ages since we saw him. I hope that he has become UBER strong and will actually be a help in battles instead of a hinderance.

[nx6]

Sorry. I say good riddance to him.

I hope he's dead. That would add some nice drama into the plot actually.

[Kenta]

There's a limit to how strong a human can be unless your name is Gatts. I think he's definitely alive, but in order to become strong, it's not wild to say he took in some Yoma flesh into his body.

[Klavier Gavin]

I agree with Kenta's idea, would be nice to see Raki turning to an awakened one and Clare being the one killing him. XD

That's not really likely to happen though, since he's like Clare's favourite pet.

[Tyekanik]

What will make me a sad Tye if he's the first guy to be a claymore but not awaken. Because he's...like in love with Clair and won't go overboard with it like every other single man has.

Well, it does feel euphoric, almost sex like I think. Good chance he won't awaken now that I think about it.

[Kenken]

*imagines Raki in a female's Claymore uniform*

I'm sorry, that's the first image i got -_-;;

[Freya]

I hope that he's not dead, and most likely he won't be because Clair is looking for him and he IMO represents her humanity, just like she represented humanity to Teresa. He's part of her story.
And i know that he wouldn't become as strong as the claymores but he could've gotten pretty strong if he's been training all these years.
I also think that it's pretty unlikely that he would take Yoma flesh, seeing as he sees what it does to Clair and a yoma killed his family, by taking over his brother's body.

[Tyekanik]

It's still a gap he can't get past with training. It takes simply way above human capability to be able to do anything other than be a meat shield for almost a whole second in combat.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for him running out at a bad time and dying.

I'm sure lot of the girls had bad experiences with Yoma prior to being claymore's. Its all how you look at it. They have a definite reason to kill Yoma, here is the way, but its becoming half of one.

Screw it, lets get to killing.

[Gojira]

Can someone tell which chapter to start from where the anime strays from the manga?

[Habanero]

It starts to stray gradually around volumes 9-10 (mainly the parts about Raki/Isley/Priscilla). There shouldn't be too many wtf-moments if you start reading from the chapter 54/55. By the end of 59, they're pretty much different stories.

[nx6]

Can someone tell which chapter to start from where the anime strays from the manga?
We were just talking about that on the anime thread. I recommend watching to ep 23, no further, and then reading starting at ch 58.

[Bankai_Zangetsu]

so is claymore just unpopular in japan or something i cant think of any other reason why the anime ended and the manga comes out 11 times a year

[nx6]

Because it's a monthly shounen and it was pretty close to that point in the story when the anime came out? It would be impossible to keep it up when it takes a chapter or two of most manga to make an anime episode and Claymore has shown no signs of ending soon.

In fact, I think soon after the anime came out is when the manga had it's four month hiatus. Even with a bunch of filler episodes, there simply isn't enough material to keep the series going in anime like they do Bleach.

[Habanero]

Page 1:

Claymore, Scene 79: Truths in the east.

Going against destiny and paving a new path with their Claymores.

For their comrades, for themselves.

Page 2:

Side text: The awakened being Agatha was wiped out in an instant! After saving their true potential, Clare and the Warriors in the North have returned....

They did it...?

What happened

It happened so fast...

Who are those people...?

Even though they carried Claymores, their outfits..

They wouldn't be new enemies, right....

Don't worry

!

They aren't enemies, they're....

Oh

Look

The rain has stopped

Page 3:

Seven people..

With Claymores, unknown warriors...

!

Are they the ones who were thought to be...

lost in the battle in the north...?

!

Even though the cut was deep, it should be alright

Since the wrists were just cut, it should be able to be regenerated.

Oh...using yoki to help me recover and regenerate...

But it's too bad, I'm a defensive type...I can regenerate on my own

It'll be faster with two people

Let me help you

Page 4:

How are your eyes?

Can those regenerater?

That's a wound from a long time ago...

I can only enhance her healing and regenerating abilities...

But...

Healing and regenerating depends largely on one's memory...

After so long, it might not be able to regenerate to old form

I got hurt because I wanted to live in secrecy in this town

If I wanted to heal it, it would have happened long ago

You seem to...

Not regret it...

What should I regret for?

To me, this is a place that is more important than light

Page 5:

Uuuoh..

Guuu...

Oh?

What's wrong...

You want to fight, kid?

No

Her mission is to kill me

!

Page 6:

Guu...

Uuuu...

I'm sorry about before

But since I've done what I've set up to do

My life is your's to take

Uuu...

Uuu...

What is this...

What is this...

Why do you say that...

Can't you be at least a bit terrible....

How can I kill you after hearing all that....

Orders from the organization should be followed....

And the one I'm supposed to kill is right in front of me...

Tell me, what should I do...

Page 7:

Then

Just don't return to the organization...

Huh?

Of course, if you don't kill Galatea here and return to the organization

That's disobeying the organization's orders, also seen as treason...you'll probably be killed on the spot

If you said you couldn't find Galatea or that she got away...the organization will never believe those words

Then there's one parth left, and that's to not return to the organization...

Page 8:

Bu...But

If we do that...we'll..

Yes

At that moment, you'll become traitors

And they'll come after you.

If we stay here, the organization won't come after us...

When it's all said and done, this is still the Saint Capitals...

It's widely known that this town discriminates us Claymores...

It's a temporary solution

If the organization wishes to kill us, they'll even completely destroy this town

I think so too

But even if it's just temporary, we have to stay...

What?

Page 9:

We...

Page 10:

are here to topple the organization

Page 11:

What!?

Are you serious?

If you are, then I've got to say you're too foolish and reckless...

To defeat the enemies of the Warriors of the norht...

You'll fight the warriors from the current organization?

It's not like that

Our target is only the organization...

We will not fight with the warriors

Page 12:

That's one thing

To fight against the organization, the current warriors will be sent out...

A pointless battle between the original warriors and current warriors will ensue...