Claymore

[SteadyChaos]

Great anime, Wondering if anyone could point me in the direction of online manga reading.


-Thanks

[DragonBlade]

I doubt there is any online manga for Claymore.

[SteadyChaos]

ive seen torrents to download up to volume 11 or 12 and www.onemanga.com only does chater 1-4 atm

but i want to avoid needing to dl them

[DragonBlade]

ive seen torrents to download up to volume 11 or 12 and www.onemanga.com only does chater 1-4 atm
but i want to avoid needing to dl them

Why? Impatient? :O

[SteadyChaos]

Nah its never been that.

Online is easyer and i can read it places i go without a flashdrive like here in class

Edit: ive dled first 3 volumes but thats still before the terasa part

[DragonBlade]

True, but what are you doing in class? Pay attention! :P

[mthegreatone]

probably hard to concentrate with summer coming along :)

[SteadyChaos]

probably hard to concentrate with summer coming along :)

then comes college *sigh*

[mthegreatone]

woohoo episode 7 was really good. as usual another cliffhanger ending.

[Tyekanik]

Great anime, Wondering if anyone could point me in the direction of online manga reading.
-Thanks

Oddly enough I had this same curiousity earlier :p

I was pointed towards mangadownload.com, claymore being current you have to donate 5 bucks to get access to such timely material. I didn't mind because of all the stuff they have, it'll keep me busy at work for a long time, and its a one time thing - just gotta have a paypal account.

[Nood]

I dont think any site put it out for online reading, just torrent the whole thing up to volume 13, chapter 72 I think from tokyotosho, then you can read it.
Donno why, I never get people who read manga online and watch anime on youtube (thou I'm not sure if its the same people to begin with).

Btw, anyone knows when does Claymore new chapters come by? I dunno the drill of it.

[SteadyChaos]

Oddly enough I had this same curiousity earlier :p
I was pointed towards mangadownload.com, claymore being current you have to donate 5 bucks to get access to such timely material. I didn't mind because of all the stuff they have, it'll keep me busy at work for a long time, and its a one time thing - just gotta have a paypal account.


wanna lend me ur accound? :(

lol im jp

and yeaa i just started the torrents

[Arctic]

http://www.onemanga.com has claymore.

Chpts 1-15 then it skips to 70 and up, but they're currently filling in the middle part.


Found this forum looking for chpts 16+, just thought i'd help out

[dragoneyes001]

anyone have an idea on what the anime release period is weekly/biweekly/...etc

just curious as to when should look for next eps.

[Yanniv]

Tuesdays of every week I believe. Episode 8 comes out this week... can't wait!

[SteadyChaos]

should be an intense fight scene

[Nood]

If they can pull it of as well as in episode 7 then it'll be awesome.
I don't know how I'll be able to wait this out to Pieta and Clares limbs. :)

I really hope the anime wont pull of a Berserk aswell and end it like that at some point, but if they dont do it this can go on for well over 26 episodes. :)

[dragoneyes001]

thx!

[Evanesque]

I dint know the anime had a manga o_O
*ish an idiot*

I'll prolly check them out when I get home :redbiggri

Claymore ish an awesome anime ^_^

[Nood]

most of the time animes have mangas :) like 95% :)
Or to be accurate, lots of mangas' have animes....

[DragonBlade]

If they can pull it of as well as in episode 7 then it'll be awesome.
I don't know how I'll be able to wait this out to Pieta and Clares limbs. :)
I really hope the anime wont pull of a Berserk aswell and end it like that at some point, but if they dont do it this can go on for well over 26 episodes. :)

I bet it will end at the northern area last stand which would be a very cruel cliffhanger hehe

[Nood]

I thought totally the same, that they'll end the anime in Pieta, as they all "die" there...ofcourse it would pull down the anime by a great deal.
And won't seem rational aswell as they go through all that much and then just die off lol.

Even in the manga I almost died when they introduced Clarice as Number 47, I was like "WTF they'll start over with a different char as protagonist or something?"...

26 episodes won't be able to capture the awesomeness of the manga....

(Altough, I wont complain if they pull of 4limb Clare nicely :) )

[DragonBlade]

I thought totally the same, that they'll end the anime in Pieta, as they all "die" there...ofcourse it would pull down the anime by a great deal.
And won't seem rational aswell as they go through all that much and then just die off lol.
Even in the manga I almost died when they introduced Clarice as Number 47, I was like "WTF they'll start over with a different char as protagonist or something?"...
26 episodes won't be able to capture the awesomeness of the manga....
(Altough, I wont complain if they pull of 4limb Clare nicely :) )

haha, that was pure ownage for a low ranking claymore with great potential :O

[Nood]

You mean for the lowest ranking Claymore :)
Thou it was always obvious that she should've been tons higher, but the way he ights simply never shows it when killing only the normal Yoma.

(He also got to be last because hes not even a "normal" hanjinhanyo to begin with)

[SteadyChaos]

Since they do 70+ manga chapters i think it will be 26-30ish eps

and aye almost every anime has a manga started or compleated

Edit: But for some reason i think they all dien would be somewhat of a fitting end... I gtg ill explain why i think so l8r :(

[Nood]

If they would accomplish something with their death yeah-
But if they end it in Pieta, they leave so many unanswered questions...
And absically they'll show the most badass scene of the whole manga, and then just cut it off with a crying Priscilla and dead main characters...That just ain't gonna work out.
For marketing purposes a season 2 after that would come thou, as that would definetly leave everyone with MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOREEE feeling.

[DragonBlade]

Its similar to berserk so why not do what berserk anime did? >_>

[Nood]

So it can become better and people won't repeat "Berserk copy" all the time?

[DragonBlade]

heh, alot of anime deserves a 2nd season but I guess its not worth their money

[SteadyChaos]

If they would accomplish something with their death yeah-
But if they end it in Pieta, they leave so many unanswered questions...
And absically they'll show the most badass scene of the whole manga, and then just cut it off with a crying Priscilla and dead main characters...That just ain't gonna work out.
For marketing purposes a season 2 after that would come thou, as that would definetly leave everyone with MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOREEE feeling.


Ehhh true

[Kyouka Suigetsu]

They better animate the fight between Isley and Lucera. As long as they do that, I could care less if the anime ended at a cliffhanger. The manga is nowhere near being complete anyway.

[Nood]

That fight was skipped even in the manga, so I doubt it'll be in the anime. :)
Unless you mean the start of the battle.
If they get that far, that'll be in for sure.

[SteadyChaos]

If the abandon the anime... ill prolly weep...

[Ston3]

I just started reading this manga yesterday and I've caught up. Needless to say, I'm loving it. So bad-ass.

*sigh* now comes the wait -.-

[Nood]

Ch73 preview in jap:
http://mj.shueisha.co.jp/claymore/preview.html

[Gedanke]

Ch73 preview in jap:
http://mj.shueisha.co.jp/claymore/preview.html
Gah. I was telling myself not to take a peek at look at it, but I did anyway. Now I regret; now I'm anxious to read the translation even more than I was before. I'd really like to know what was being said in this up-coming chapter. Knowing the Claymore series, even though at first appearance this chapter might appear to be slow, I have a feeling it'll still be interesting, nonetheless.

Though I really do hate this monthly wait between Claymore chapters. >_<

I'm also really curious to see how Miata's skill and power compares to individuals like Clare and Miria -- and also whether or not she turns into another Priscilla-like individual, at that.

[Yanniv]

Links to the manga would be greatly appreciated. ^^

[Gedanke]

Links to the manga would be greatly appreciated. ^^

I personally wound up using a torrent program to download volumes 1 through 12 of the Claymore manga (the series now three chapters deep into the 13th volume; 72 chapters total, with number 73 still pending a translation). I then used Onemanga.com to view the most recent three scanlated/translated chapters online. One manga, unfortunately, only has chapters 1-15, then skips to 70-72 -- otherwise I'd just direct you there.

However, afterward I came across this link -- http://www.mangatraders.com/files/manga/claymore -- and found that you can download all the individuals volumes of the manga seperately.

I personally checked this mangatraders site, myself. Seems good to me; registration was free, the downloads were a decent enough pace (but don't expect blinding speeds, I suppose), and quality is pretty solid. It appears from the looks of the first few volumes that I "test downloaded" the scanlations are done by the same groups that also composed the torrent file I used.

Hopefully that helps. Good to see another individual take to the manga. It really is worth sitting down for and reading through start to finish. xD

Only issue I found with the site was that viewing it in IE seemed to distort some of the site's layout somewhat. FireFox, on the other hand, worked much better.

Edit: I guess this post could also do much the same for anyone else interested in looking for a "one stop shop" site and such to download the entirety of the manga. If possible, perhaps someone could edit the posted link into the first post of this thread, as well. Just for convenience's sake and such.

[Nood]

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a109/sin_gfx/1180627092537.jpg

Did I skip this in the manga? Or when did this happen if it happened?
I just found it floating around and thought is an amazingly cool picture....

[Ston3]

It's when Clare fights awakened Ophelia, if I'm not mistaken, after she got Irene's arm.

Edit: Volume 7, Chapter 39, Page 180-181

[Nood]

so it was a missing page from me afterall, ty now its sorted, hope I didnt miss any other.

[Evanesque]

Damn, I've been lured in here. I'm d/l the manga by the volume as of now. I won't open the files until I've got each and every one of them. At least that way, I can stall my curious self from not spoiling things for myself.

Thanks Gedanke for the link! :redbiggri

[Gedanke]

Thanks Gedanke for the link! :redbiggri

No problem at all; I'm happy to help. It's always nice to convert another individual to the manga. ;D

For me, although it might sound strange, one of the great differences -- something the manga is far better at -- is conveying the great expressions and facial emotions of the various characters. When a character is supposed to be surprised, scared, happy, etc, you really get a much better sense, in my opinion, with the manga than you do with the anime.

Although as far as manga-to-anime adaptations go, the Claymore anime is still doing a pretty solid job.

I also like to do what you do, Evanesque. I don't like to touch the series until I have all the series. I find torrents are great for that, since I always wait until the torrent finishes, at which time you've downloaded everything. xD

So, anyone else out there want to be converted to the manga (dark side)? C'mon, don't be shy...

[DragonBlade]

Anime is better during the fight scenes so you can clearly see know what is going on. its not that big of a problem in the manga though :D

[Gedanke]

Anime is better during the fight scenes so you can clearly see know what is going on. its not that big of a problem in the manga though :D

That is quite true. I've seen animes that half-ass the animation for some fight scenes and the like, and the overall quality and impression comes off as poor and lacking. Claymore, however, so far has been doing an awesome, awesome job of making the fight scenes really engaging and well drawn.

I can't wait to see the fight between Clare and Ophelia, as a Claymore and an Awakened One, for some reason. Hell, or any forthcoming combat scene in the anime, for that matter; they're likely all bound to kick ass.

I'll still always be the type to read the manga and watch the anime, however. You get the best of both, that way. ;P

[DragonBlade]

Indeed, best to watch and read both :D. Anime provides the laziness of not needing to "turn the page :P," the music, the sound FX, animation/color, things that the manga cannot really provide.

[Evanesque]

I agree when it comes to action, anime's better but when it comes to facial expressions or emotional stuff, manga can display it more nicely.

[Nood]

Ch.73 RAW out on Tokyotosho, seems like Clarice and Miata lesbian stuff the whole chapter.

[Gedanke]

Ch.73 RAW out on Tokyotosho, seems like Clarice and Miata lesbian stuff the whole chapter.

Do you happen to roughly know how long it takes between raw release and the release of a scanlation/translation, Nood?

I know a few avenues to read it or download it after it's been translated, but I'm wondering about the length of the natural waiting. Well, "extra" waiting I should say.

Oh, and no one says lesbian stuff is bad. xD

[DragonBlade]

10sigh is pretty fast, compare to the other group.

[Nood]

Don't really remember how long it took last time (it was so long ago), but I know I saw slower translating then theirs for sure.
If they took the time to translate the preview panels beforehand it should be pretty fast.

I didn't mean its BAD lesbian stuff, its just lesbian stuff.:)

[DragonBlade]

Eh more like bloodhungry Miata :P

[Nood]

Norihiro should show her eyes more. But its awesome, was waiting for someone who would use her hands. :)
Ah, what a romantic mother complex we have here.

Ohho, Miata seems a lot more interesting now, but I won't spoil it until scanalation is out.

[Gedanke]

Norihiro should show her eyes more. But its awesome, was waiting for someone who would use her hands. :)
Ah, what a romantic mother complex we have here.
Ohho, Miata seems a lot more interesting now, but I won't spoil it until scanalation is out.

Do you know Japanese or something? I've seen the raw, or at least previews of it, already. Judging by what seems to be a total dominance of dialogue and perhaps revelations or story-hooks implemented, and just the expressions of Clarice, I can sort of make out that something seems to be up. But without knowning Japanese of course, I still have pretty much no idea what's going on until the translation comes out. O_o

If you know something I don't, spoil me, damn it. PM me if you must, but if you've got some added info or know Japanese yourself or something, share that info! ...Please? xP

[DragonBlade]

Clarice and Miata are assigned to kill Galatea. She has to take teh pills to avoid galatea's detection. No pill = no boob.

[Gedanke]

Clarice and Miata are assigned to kill Galatea. She has to take teh pills to avoid galatea's detection. No pill = no boob.

Well, I know about the assignment to find and kill Galatea; anyone who's read chapter 72previous to this knows that, of course.

But is that all that this chapter is about, really? Clarice being told to start poppin' pills? ...Though I guess you can't blame her if she gets 'teh boob'.

...This is the worst part about waiting for manga chapters: when the raw is out, and you know it's just sitting there pending translation, and all you can do is sit around and wait itchin' to read it. <_<

I hate having to be patient.

And a name change, huh, Dragonblade. Err, Christina I mean. O_o What's with this site and username changes? I see it fairly regularly. Damn vbPlaza dealie and your potential for confusion, mischief and anarchy!

[DragonBlade]

Hehe.

Miata hates the pills but wants the boob.

Miata is still able to sense a "strong presense" even if she does not have her youki power because of the pill. At the end of teh chapter, Miata senses such a presence.

[Nood]

Its just an unconfrimed stuff, I'm not sure it would worth writing here so just leave it...

Anyway, I hope Galatea comes and beats them like shat. :)
Its actually a perfect way to eliminate Miata, who if threatened just like that could go awaken and become the next priscilla.
They possibly know that Galatea can kill Clarice in a matter of seconds, and then she can stop Miata's awakening if it would be to happen. (and if Clarice dies it would be rather obvious that she wouldnt be able to stop herself)
tho I donno the dialouges of this chapter, it still looks like a "disposing" mission to me, the organization is obviously in a win-win situation no matter the mission fails or succeeds.

[Gedanke]

Hehe.

Miata hates the pills but wants the boob.

Miata is still able to sense a "strong presense" even if she does not have her youki power because of the pill. At the end of teh chapter, Miata senses such a presence.

I see.

Thanks for the little synopsis, Christina. But now it's also got me wondering precisely at the nature of a supposed "strong presence" detected at the end of this chapter. Even after reading this, undoubtedly it's just going to lead to yet another month waiting, speculation and theorizing.

This is really starting to remind me of having to wait through the unfortunate timespans between chapters of something like Berserk.

Anyone else hate having to wait on monthly release manga? <_< (That's essentially a rhetorical question, I guess. I can probably guess pretty accurately at the answer)

[DragonBlade]

Beats waiting for someone to resume their manga like Hunter x Hunter :<

[DragonBlade]

Scanlation is out. I'll upload it soon

[DragonBlade]

Http://out3.net/files/506_ujou2/claymore%20chp73.rar
Enjoy

[Gedanke]

Huzzah!

You're officially one of my heros. Although, considering I consider the average milk cow one of my heros for providing such wonderful items as chocolate and ice cream, it may not be a particularly stupendous honour...

Anyhoo... thanks a bunch. I guess this might as well be as good a time as any to use the little "+reputation" button. I've been a member on this site for over a year and a half, and this is the first time I've ever bothered with the reputation dealie.

[Nood]

Hhehe funny chapter now that I know the talk...Clarice is sucha *****, "you can't do that thing you did earlier" :D That "thing" :D
Such a secretive lesbian way to call it.

[Ston3]

Miata destorys.

I don't know why but I never realized she was so young even when she was first introduced hah I guess I should pay more attention

I'm interested in Miata v. Galatea but I don't want either to die :( I suppose if I had to make a choice, I'd rather have Miata die heh.

Watch it not be Galatea in that city.

Edit: Lol yea... The first page was funny... "What did you do?" haha and Clarice doesn't even want to admit it that she's just there for Miata to suck her tit, even when it's just the two of them.

[Gedanke]

Miata destorys.

And apparently she's also a nipple biter, as well.

:eek13:

I don't know if anyone would come to the same question as I have, but it's something I'm wondering about: does anyone else wonder if Clarice's breasts would actually lactate (my guess would of course be "no"), or does Miata just really like boobies?

xD

[Tyekanik]

Haha, I knew I was going to love Miata. I also figured she wasn't that small, I always got the crouched down hugging impression.

I would imagine Clarice isn't producing anything, just that it is necessary for Miata's particular psychosis (whatever it is, she's clearely screwed up) which my idea of child like psychosis is now in question of...how much of a child is she still physically. Seems to be most of one, but still a bit too big for the booby

They said claymores don't age but mature, so I figure she could be almost any age just stuck without fully developing, so she wasn't pushed as far back mentally as I was thinking.

[Nood]

Nah, Miata IS young, I don't know how long it takes to take their matured "form" but shes at best halfway to that.
Remember Teresa in Raphaela's flashback or what, shes probably around that age, and Teresa still matured a lot from there.
So even if comparing to humans shes actually 50 yo, comparing to claymores she is really young.

[Ston3]

I wonder what would happen if Clarice was to die hehe

I would think of something like that after what could be considered a touching chapter haha

[Nood]

If Clarice would die it would make one holy badass chapter!
Around the pieta style, especially if Miata would awaken completly. :)

[Evanesque]

Damn, couldn't resist the manga just sitting in my folder so I checked it out till Volume 6 >_<

Now I have an idea of what's happening/going to happen...dammit!
>_<

[Gedanke]

Damn, couldn't resist the manga just sitting in my folder so I checked it out till Volume 6 >_<
Now I have an idea of what's happening/going to happen...dammit!
>_<

And now that you've read at least that, I'd bet money on you giving in to that temptation a second time even easier and reading the rest.

Go on, do it. You know you want to... You've already read up to Volume Six, why not read the rest?

xD

[Nood]

Damn, couldn't resist the manga just sitting in my folder so I checked it out till Volume 6 >_<
Now I have an idea of what's happening/going to happen...dammit!
>_<

Haha, no in fact you just stopped where you still have no idea on whats going to happen :D

[Gedanke]

Haha, no in fact you just stopped where you still have no idea on whats going to happen :D

Nood is quite correct. It just gets better as it goes. A lot better, actually.

Volume six is really only about where the anime is at right now. If I recall, the sixth volume doesn't even conclude the fight with the first male Awakened One to be seen in the series.

Plot turns and twists abound to come.

[DragonBlade]

I wonder how you manage to pull out and not get sucked into the addictiveness of the Claymore Manga

[Nood]

Who said you can do that?
I red it like 10 times now just because whenever I check out a chapter for something I can't help but read the next, read the next, read the next, read the next...

Gedenke, no v6 is now the battle with Ophelia, but you can only say "UNEXPECTED" once you go further into v7 and onwards, v6 is the last solid volume. :)
I think from that point on theres no way you can stop until the SUPERB battle in Pieta. :)

[Gedanke]

Yeah, you're right.

I was off by one volume it seems. I was mistaking volume five for volume six.

Nood, you seem to say "SUPERB" a fair bit. That wouldn't happen to have anything to do with one particular Awakened One, would it? xD

[Nood]

obviously it has :)
Whenever I use it its basically to refer to Rigaldo or, just a reference to how awesome a scene can be. :)

http://rapidshare.com/files/37011047/Claymore_MAD_Craymore.divx
Claymore MAD :)
Its awesome, watch it made of manga and win!
Anime watchers can watch it up to halfway if they don't wish to cry "WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT????? ??????" then read the manga in one sit.

[Critical]

Supe... erm I mean awesome manga. I've read it in one go. Too bad my internet is so crappy that I can't wach the anime version. :(

Um. Nood, could you please upload that file somewhere else than RS? That bi*** won't let me download anything because it says I'm already downloading something (which isn't true).

[Nood]

Delivery: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MH4LYVU0

Hope this works for you, if ur not using IE but something else, DL the megaupload toolbar put it on the explorer and you can DL all you want without being bothered in your other browser. (Opera <3)

[Critical]

Thanks. Yeah I've got the toolbar. That's like the only thing I use IE for. ^^

[Nood]

Posting because its interesting :)

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a109/sin_gfx/1181583365491.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a109/sin_gfx/angeldens.png

[Critical]

LAWLS Is that young Teresa?
Yeah, he didn't sweat much with Claymore's character's design. ^^'
The main character of AD still gives me the creeps though :/

[Nood]

Well Teresa probably would've looked like that if she werent a claymore, except the eyes.

(also what he should've done? Ikuno was the best character in AD, I've obviously wanted to continue her, and he did :) )

[Critical]

Delivery: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MH4LYVU0
Hope this works for you, if ur not using IE but something else, DL the megaupload toolbar put it on the explorer and you can DL all you want without being bothered in your other browser. (Opera <3)

Grrr. Megauplode is being gay. It won't let me download the file even with the toolbar. There's still that Download with premium! bullshit button.

And who's Ikuno?

[Nood]

Althou I feel ashamed myself giving out a link to such a butchered low quality version of it, if you want to you can try:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=HFmk2ae6hNA

Ikuno is the girl in Angel Densetsu, Clare's "origins" (even in personality).

[Critical]

Thanks, Nood. I think I'll wait some time on RapidShare then (12 min left)
I have no idea what happened to these 2 sites. They were so reliable before. ><

You mean like, she is kind and good hearted like in Claymore? (can't really tell from the page you provided - there's only her usual Terminator style ^^)

[Nood]

Not sure, I got the same vibe, something like the innocent-killer type :)
It might be just me, read AD and you cna decide for yourself. I love them both thats for sure. :)

[Nood]

How dead this thread is...

Anyways, big news kids, we get an Extra chapter now, inlucding Teresa!
Its a "filler" so to say, but since its including Teresa its all about awesome!

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EQHQUVIV

This is the RAW MQ, waiting for a scanalation, but it looks awesome. :)

(Oh, its Clare-less Teresa btw, if you wanted to know)

[DragonBlade]

http://www.savefile.com/files/856190
Scanlated.

As always, Teresa pwns. :)

[Nood]

Oh yeah, forgot to post the scanalation link thx to GL ep 14...
Anyway it was definetly awesome :)
This is how fillers in animes should be.
Thou gladly its not a filler here, next chapter coming around aug. 6th.
Atleast I was right when I said that Teresa was holy badass even thorugh multiply generations of Claymores. :)

Thou that former 1 didn't make any sense...its not like being no.1 has ANY kind of benefit whatsoever.

[Gedanke]

That was a nice little "filler" chapter, so to speak.

More than anything, it merely reaffirms my belief that Teresa was the single strongest Claymore of any generation, and an Awoken Teresa would make even the Abyssal ones and Priscilla perhaps seem weak by comparison.

Thanks for that, Nood and DB.

[Nood]

Well not neccesarily Priscilla, if the awakening is like unleashing ones full potential, Priscilla IS stronger.
But she would've definetly been abyssal level or higher, no doubt on that.

[Gedanke]

Well not neccesarily Priscilla, if the awakening is like unleashing ones full potential, Priscilla IS stronger.
But she would've definetly been abyssal level or higher, no doubt on that.

Yeah, I suppose the "stronger than Priscilla" thing is probably not accurate -- though, in my opinion, debatable.

The concept of "potential" isn't really all that specified in the series (nor does it ever seem to be in most animes/mangas). Does it mean technical skill level in combat, amount and potency of yoki, etc? Teresa using 10% of her power was clearly superior to a Priscilla using at least 50% of her power; it was only through a mistake -- dropping her yoki and assuming Priscilla wasn’t going to continue fighting -- (leaving herself open to surprise attack, essentially) that Priscilla defeated Teresa.

I'm of the opinion -- and keep in mind it's just that -- that had Teresa and Priscilla Awoken at the same time during that same situation, Teresa would have won a conflict between them based solely upon superior experience and undoubtedly the superior combat expertise as a result. Now, that doesn’t necessarily mean one year, ten years, twenty years, etc, down the line that if that same situation occurred, Teresa would win.

‘Course, this is all just idle speculation on my part, which really is just pointless in the end. xD

Edit: I finally found the source site for a bunch of good fanart I've been coming across; figured I should share: http://nakenashi.net/archives/cat_6.php?page=all

I'm also posting it here in the manga section because a number of the pictures are somewhat spoilerish.

[Nood]

Experience wouldn't have count for much, neither of them had any experience fighting in their awakened form, which is atleast partly different from the human form.
A maximum potential should be their maximum combat power they can reach including everything you listed.
Teresa most likely already reached hers, or atleast got extremely close, thats why she chopped up a former No.1 awakened with such ease. Remember No.1s awakening are disasterous cases, the three known times they happened are the 3 abyssal ones. Even if that Rosemary was No.1 in a "weaker" generation of Claymores, she still should've had power at around Rigaldo's at the very, very least.

When Teresa and Priscilla fought as full human-form, or Priscilla using some Yoki, Teresa was holding back a lot, she could've crush and kill her at any time.
As Ilena said, she had plenty of opportunities.
BUT, she did say that with time Priscilla could've suppress her, that means a monstorous potential in her aswell, she was just nowhere near achieving it.

Teresa was caught completly offguard, just think about it, even if Priscilla was on halfway to where Teresa's overall power is, she had over 90% yoki released, Teresa gone back to 0 at that point, she was simply not fast enough in that form.

The complete awakening put Priscilla on to her maximum. That means that in that form she would've been stronger. But definetly Teresa would've had some chance there aswell. Maybe she could've oppose her and fight equally due to Priscilla just freshly awakening, not used to the body the feeling, the use.
But defeating is impossible. With Teresa's experience, she might have been close to her maximum potential like 95%, awakening that 5% wouldn't have help a lot, except the tentacles or something lol.

But to go farther, why would they've opposed the other, they should've known that they are close to eachother in strength, they would've just want to eat lol..

I would definetly place Teresa awakened above the current abyssal ones, and the unawakened Teresa around matching an abyssal one, even if not for a long term battle. But Priscilla is just stronger.

(Now where would I place a half-awakened Teresa who doesn't have to care about the 80% limit)

[Gedanke]

Yes, it's true that the physical experience of a largely human body of the Claymores probably wouldn't amount to much post-Awakening. However, I still believe that the mental experience, and perhaps even a better understanding of that full potential that was just released that Teresa would possess over Priscilla would give her an advantage. It may not be necessarily large, it might even be miniscule; but if one were to assume that Teresa and Priscilla were very comparable to each other in power, such an advantage, however minor, might be a deciding factor.

I also was considering how the relative power and skill of the former number one Awakened one (Rosemary) would have perhaps compared to other characters. I came to the same basic assumption: Rosemary would have been *at least* on par or just above Rigaldo.

It is most likely that Teresa was close to her maximum potential, or even reached it. I actually agree with that. Yet, we don't actually know that for certain. For all we know, Teresa could have been so utterly powerful that at the moment of her death, she had only realized 50% of her total potential. Do I personally think that would be a likely scenario? No, not at all, actually. But, based solely upon the simple fact that there's no evidence to prove or disprove that fact one way or the other, it's not something that can be entirely dismissed off-hand.

I know Teresa was caught off-guard; I already mentioned that in my previous post, as well.

I never said I thought an unawakened Teresa could beat an Awakened Priscilla. I think the opposite is the case. I said I thought Teresa was superior; essentially, based on equal circumstances, such as a Claymore Teresa verse a Claymore Priscilla, or an Awakened Teresa verse an Awakened Priscilla, I thought that Teresa would win a conflict. It's my belief that Teresa's proficiency to sense Yoki, and form a fighting style based on that, would translate just fine into an Awakened physical form, unlike perhaps the unique sword techniques and such that other Claymores form while possessing a human body. Again, another advantage I feel would be in Teresa's favour.

Yeah, I suppose it would be a rather unlikely scenario for Teresa and Priscilla to come to blows if they both Awakened. Although, Priscilla apparently fought with Isley, and it may have just been on the whim of Priscilla, so you never know.

Half-awakened Teresa? How do we know Teresa wasn't already half-awakened? Though, I believe that probably wasn't the case. It seems to be an extremely rare occurence for a half-awakening to actually occur; and in most of the instances we've seen -- Raki-Clare, Clare-Jean twice, etc -- it required outside interference to help prevent the Claymore in question from becoming a full Awakened One. In my opinion, a Teresa who didn't need to worry about the 80% Yoki limit could perhaps even beat the three original Abyssal Ones without need to Awaken. But, perhaps not Priscilla.

[Nood]

Point is, Teresa would lose her most outstanding ability, not completly but sensing yoki when you are constantly and in an unstoppable manner releasing yoki is next to impossible.
She alrdy had trouble due to the insane amounts of yoki released from the 80%+ Priscilla.
When facing an awakened opponent who radiates so much Yoki she chooses releasing Yoki above sensing it, simply because shes not fast or strong enough while suppressing too much.
We've seen this just in this chapter. She doesn't do it much because the enemies that require it are extremely rare.

So the ability that kept her above anyone as a claymore would be lost, all that would remain is probably a better then avarage coontrol of yoki, an insane, above abyssal amounts of yoki, and the power and speed coming from that.
But I give it that she could've won, because of contrasting bodily abilities, seeing that Clare got Teresa's yoma parts, her awakened form would've been near the same as Clare's (except Ilena's part) so as 200 long as huge blades can cut quick strong tentacles, Teresa would've had the advantage. :)
(Well this may just be how Clare will fight Priscilla, her awakened form looks superior)

But if we count their words as the rules, Priscilla should be able to beat an awakened Teresa, unless ofcourse, contradicting ability types.

[mangaman16]

i wonder who would kill priscilla if she is indeed stronger than the abyssal ones and alicia.I cant wait till clare gets her revenge.

[DragonBlade]

Obivously its going to be Raki >.>

Most likely Clare or if it turns out for the best, Riful will destroy her and conquer the world <.<

[Tyekanik]

Priscilla will never die :)

It can't be Raki, that would be just too wrong.

[mangaman16]

some of these awakened forms are the most disgusting and ugly things in the manga world.especially luciela and that former number 1 that teresa fought.

[theblack_dragon]

hmmmmmm i notice in rtrhe anime there building the ultimate claymore teresa's flesh and now the former numbers hand. i wonder what next but i believe raki may have a big impact in the story maybe he might be the first male to control the power

manga readers dont answer my life statement lol

[Kyoko<3!]

some of these awakened forms are the most disgusting and ugly things in the manga world.especially luciela and that former number 1 that teresa fought.

Actually, I don't find them to be disgusting at all. If it were real it'd probably be disgusting (and scary as shit =D), but I find them to be quite beautiful. Not attractive, but beautiful. I'd never hit one of them up >.>

I <3 Awakened Riful XD

[Nood]

Actually, I don't find them to be disgusting at all. If it were real it'd probably be disgusting (and scary as shit =D), but I find them to be quite beautiful. Not attractive, but beautiful. I'd never hit one of them up >.>
I <3 Awakened Riful XD

Yeah, Duphe is beutiful! :P

Apart from Riful and Isley, they do have some disgusting parts... (But those two look way too awesome!
But those who look disgusting are mostly the weak cannonfodder, insect-like things.

Man, I wish we could've seen Ilena's awakened form...

[Kyoko<3!]

Yeah, Duphe is beutiful! :P
Apart from Riful and Isley, they do have some disgusting parts... (But those two look way too awesome!
But those who look disgusting are mostly the weak cannonfodder, insect-like things.
Man, I wish we could've seen Ilena's awakened form...

Yeah I guess with power comes beauty as well =P

I wish they were more creative with Priscilla's awakened state. I mean she just grows wings, gets taller, gets a change in arms, and gets a horn. I mean there are minor adjustments to the details her skin and what not, but there wasn't much creativity there. Maybe it's because she was still only a kid when we saw her awakened. Hopefully her body has...matured by now :redbiggri

I would love to see Galatea awakened....oh man.

[Ston3]

Personally, I am of the belief that Teresa would have beaten Priscilla. She was definitely the only one that could have rivaled awakened Priscilla. Priscilla was way more unstable mentally and Teresa's fighting style, reading yoki, works better against stronger enemies.

We can only speculate though. There's plenty of unknown factors like fully understanding awakenings and defining potential.

Edit: I finally found the source site for a bunch of good fanart I've been coming across; figured I should share: http://nakenashi.net/archives/cat_6.php?page=all
I'm also posting it here in the manga section because a number of the pictures are somewhat spoilerish.

Nice find. Lots of awesome pictures. :)

[Nood]

Teresa has trouble when too much yoki is around, the above-abyssal Priscilla, and her own atleast 75% yoki would made reading yoki really really hard.

I think she could've rival an abyssal in that state, but if Priscilla is "much stronger" (according to Riful) then theres no way she could've beat her.
Also Priscilla didn't seem unstable at all after the awakening.

Either way, it would've been a more interesting battle then how it gone...I hate Priscilla only for how she did it, if she wins after awakening, ok, but to do a sneaky attack like that after all the justice talk and BEFORE awakening...

[Kyoko<3!]

Yeah i believe that if Teresa went full out, she might have rivaled Priscilla.

Look at how she completely destroyed Rosemary, a former number 1 so easily. Obviously Priscilla is stronger than Rosemary, but after that 'extra chapter' I'm sort of feeling that Teresa might have given Priscilla a run for her money....yoma money. XP

[Nood]

I need some help on finding the panel/pages where we can see Clare do this:

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a109/sin_gfx/bscap0034.jpg

I thought its the Rabona arc, obviously because of the clothes etc, but I couldn't find it. This shouldn't be the first time I had a missing page from my chapters, thou it seems only speechless pages do go missing.
Anyway, if someone could tell me where it is, or upload it I would be very happy. :)
Discard the colors, and the background, its a screenshot from the Claymore MAD, so the background and the foreground are probably different. What I want is Clare's way too sexy back.

[Critical]

This looks like a cut->paste work on two separate pages/panels. Is it from the music video?

[Gedanke]

I can't help but agree with Critical.

I'm not sure that's actually a frame in the manga. I scanned through the entire Rabona arc's chapters, which is the only part of the storyline Clare is wearing clothing like that, and I didn't find any frames resembling that.

Now, I could also be missing maybe a page or two or something, but I don't think it's likely.

[Critical]

I seem to have missed the text on the end of Nood's post ^^'

What I want is Clare's way too sexy back.

LoL. I was thinking the same thing myself. ;p

[Kyoko<3!]

Damn, why are claymores so hawt =(

and what possible deformity could have made Teresa unwanted by those bandits?!?

I think I still would have hit that, considering she was willing to let anyone do it =P.

[Gedanke]

Damn, why are claymores so hawt =(
and what possible deformity could have made Teresa unwanted by those bandits?!?
I think I still would have hit that, considering she was willing to let anyone do it =P.

Maybe all Claymores develop a wicked case of herpes or something when they're all transfigured into half-human, half-yoma hybrids.

:eek13:

[Critical]

Damn, why are claymores so hawt =(
and what possible deformity could have made Teresa unwanted by those bandits?!?
I think I still would have hit that, considering she was willing to let anyone do it =P.

Even if it was a yoma face on her belly? Or something like that... :P
But yeah, I'm with you bro :)

[Kyoko<3!]

Well even if there's something SO DISGUSTING on the front of her chest that I somehow couldn't hit that (which I don't believe is possible =P), all you gotta do is flip her around! Take it from the back.

Just don't look her front =P

[Nood]

if you ask me its a vertical cut showing her intestines or something, transparent skin etc...but anyway, who asked her to take down the clothes... they are very fine from the back aswell.
also its not on the breasts, thx Clarice for clarification, its on their belly, but since they are wearing quite the skintight outfit its not a yoma face or anything. :P
It also should looklike "it hurts" so its most likely a big scar.

And Jean actually lost that deformity on the stomach after having a completly awakened body. Shes that awesome!


Anyway, I know, I checked through the Rabona arc like 10 times but can't frickin find it anywhere...
It is from the music video. Man I'm dying to find it. (and it can't even be a small panel due to the totally detailed pic.)

[Critical]

Let's not get technical now. :P I believe it was already discussed before ... on the whole internet :Haha

[Gedanke]

Well even if there's something SO DISGUSTING on the front of her chest that I somehow couldn't hit that (which I don't believe is possible =P), all you gotta do is flip her around! Take it from the back.
Just don't look her front =P

Spoken like someone who's thought this through. xD
I was kind of waiting for someone to mention something to this effect. 'Course, if no one had, I probably would have done it myself.

And Jean actually lost that deformity on the stomach after having a completly awakened body. Shes that awesome!

That's because Jean rocks. End of discussion. xD

[Kyoko<3!]

Yup.
It's been proven.
Awakenings make you hotter.

Luciela also did not have any deformity on her =P.

[Nood]

Yup.
It's been proven.
Awakenings make you hotter.
Luciela also did not have any deformity on her =P.


Yeah but Luciela probably has teeth down there...do not want.

[Critical]

Nood, I think the answer to your question is some kind of shady fanart. :p

[Kyoko<3!]

Yeah but Luciela probably has teeth down there...do not want.

HAHAHA, maybe not in her human form...but then again she can do partial awakenings so she might...'accidentally' awaken herself down below and rip you up =P

Man Dauf must be so lucky...being able to 'pound' Riful with those huge metal pistons XDD

[Gedanke]

Man Dauf must be so lucky...being able to 'pound' Riful with those huge metal pistons XDD

HAHA!

But Riful is also just a bunch of ribbon-like tentacles. I mean, sure, the possibility for some sort of tentacle hentai sort of deal is off the freakin' charts... but what else is there?

Although I guess it can be argued that Riful tentacle pr0n is all you need...

[Kyoko<3!]

HAHA!
But Riful is also just a bunch of ribbon-like tentacles. I mean, sure, the possibility for some sort of tentacle hentai sort of deal is off the freakin' charts... but what else is there?
Although I guess it can be argued that Riful tentacle pr0n is all you need...

She's probably got a 'soft spot' underneath all those tentacles. i mean she spreads them out like a dress. There's got to be somthing in the middle ;)

Awakened ones have got to be kinky as shit. Luciela can get it from anywhere on her body. >.>

[Nood]

I think Riful pounds Duphe...

Well they all have a human form, 100% working, and Riful can build up any kind of shape from the ribbons...:)


Critical:
I would eat my own hair if there would be fanart of this level of Claymore, and I wouldn't know of it.
I'm thinking its some extra page or something that wasn't scanned initially.

[Gedanke]

She's probably got a 'soft spot' underneath all those tentacles. i mean she spreads them out like a dress. There's got to be somthing in the middle ;)

Haha, maybe you're right. Wonder if it would be readily visible if you were to just stand underneath her in that dome shape she forms with the tentacles.

Hmm... *dirty thoughts*

Awakened ones have got to be kinky as shit. Luciela can get it from anywhere on her body. >.>

Haha. Kinky, no doubt. Put those extra "limbs" and orifices to work!

Where are all the pervertedly inclined, talented fanartists when you need them, right? xD

[Critical]

Haha. Perverted doesn't even come close in describing you guys. :P

And if Duph does it with Riful that just screams lolicon. :Haha

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4113/lawlsea4.jpg

[Kyoko<3!]

Haha. Perverted doesn't even come close in describing you guys. :P
And if Duph does it with Riful that just screams lolicon. :Haha
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4113/lawlsea4.jpg

HAHAHA I love it =P

[mangaman16]

ye i agree with you all about isley and riful.riful doesnt even look ugly for an awakened form and isley's form is one of the best designed characters in manga.An those two awakened forms are the most dangerous too.i just want to see priscilla's head flying lol.even if she does seem innocent now.and about luciela those teeth are just disgusting and the tail.they would be in the way.I rather her human form anyday.lol at that spoiler pic

[Kyoko<3!]

Man I've been waiting all month for chapter 74 only to be told it's not coming out this month =(.

The bonus chapter was interesting though. Teresa's freaking hax when she's not being trixored =P

[Lind Ni Britannia]

i've only read the first volume, i'm quite interested in it but i'm either too busy/lazy to get the rest. the art is a bit western-ish, breaking away from what you see these days.

[Nood]

Funny thing I came over when I was rereading the Teresa arc just now.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a109/sin_gfx/Claymorev04056.jpg

Bottom left corner panel, right side girl, isn't that Galatea?
Thou the symbol differs(not much thou), that is possible since this is Class 77 while we saw her next in class 78.
Also
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a109/sin_gfx/Claymorev04059.jpg

Upper middle panel, Veronica? :)
Thou that isn't that interesting as shes dead.

[nx6]

Alright, now I'm here, too. And dammit, I did it again. Started reading something and just got on a chapter-to-chapter-to-chapter thing and now I've gone from the begining to the current scene in five days.

[Setsuna Ai]

Funny thing I came over when I was rereading the Teresa arc just now.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a109/sin_gfx/Claymorev04056.jpg[/IMG]
Bottom left corner panel, right side girl, isn't that Galatea?
Thou the symbol differs(not much thou), that is possible since this is Class 77 while we saw her next in class 78.
Also
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a109/sin_gfx/Claymorev04059.jpg[/IMG]
Upper middle panel, Veronica? :)
Thou that isn't that interesting as shes dead.
that's very possible (especially the galatea one). I mean the Black Coat even said that Galatea has lived a long life as a claymore, right? Funny thing is I never noticed xD.

I hate myself. I caught up with the manga.

Isely's awakened form = kickass anyone?

And btw what happened with Rafael? I'm a little confused since we see her killing Luciela or something then that was it. Time skip.

Oh and is it just me or has #4 had the bad luck of being occupied by psycho claymores twice?

[mangaman16]

ye isley's homing arrows and his centaur look make him badass and a very dangerous one to fight.I wonder who's the strongest out of the three abyssal ones.I would say riful.about rafaela read chapter 72 pg 30 although it isnt confirmed.Srry can't get that spoiler tag thing do lol.oh and it's ot only you about the number 4 thing only thing different is that ophelia was actually funny but still mentally unstable lol.

[Nood]

that's very possible (especially the galatea one). I mean the Black Coat even said that Galatea has lived a long life as a claymore, right? Funny thing is I never noticed xD.

I hate myself. I caught up with the manga.

Isely's awakened form = kickass anyone?

And btw what happened with Rafael? I'm a little confused since we see her killing Luciela or something then that was it. Time skip.

Oh and is it just me or has #4 had the bad luck of being occupied by psycho claymores twice?

Well the blacksuit said that shes searching for her sister (luciela) and a place for herself to die.
So theres a chance that right after killing Luciela there she killed herself, but this is about as confirmed as Ilena's death. (And even Luciela's death isn't confirmed, thou the chances are rly rly low)

Yep, funny it seems the "not 100% sane" people to No.4 no matter what. :)

About whos the strongest out of the 3, noone, they are the abyssal ones ebcause they are equally strong. :)
Luciela's and Isley's battle was pretty much a draw.

[nx6]

I think Rafael's still alive, and will reappear later in the story when we get to the "overthrowing the organization" part.

[Setsuna Ai]

Well the blacksuit said that shes searching for her sister (luciela) and a place for herself to die.
So theres a chance that right after killing Luciela there she killed herself, but this is about as confirmed as Ilena's death. (And even Luciela's death isn't confirmed, thou the chances are rly rly low)
Yep, funny it seems the "not 100% sane" people to No.4 no matter what. :)
About whos the strongest out of the 3, noone, they are the abyssal ones ebcause they are equally strong. :)
Luciela's and Isley's battle was pretty much a draw.
yeah i know they're equal in strength. In terms of "cool-looking", Isely = dA l337 hax0rz (reference to gantz).

Rafaela went into hiding as Galatea did, is what I would assume. But I can't believe the organization would go as far as Alicia for the sake of human beings. But then again they're also probably using that as a back-up story to get with the humans' good side and then scheme a "take-over-the-lands" plan.

[Nood]

dA l337 hax0rz is not a good gantz reference :)

Well yeah, one may think she did, but no the other hand she was always only about searching for her sister.
She as a claymore with Luciela, she got out of the organization because of Luciela, and was searching for her at that time, and she came back to the organization solely because of her, otherwise we should think he did everything the Organization asked.
So now that she fulfilled what she wanted, for an otherwise immortal being with no other purposes in life, death is quite an accaptable theory.

[Setsuna Ai]

eh I'm referring to the time when they spoke in l337! Or did I find a spoof chapter?

But after all of that, one would think she'd want revenge against the organization, right? True she feels its' her responsibility for what happened to Luciela but I'm sure she's distressed with what they're doing to other claymores, especially the Alicia twins (well idk I think i'm over-thinking the whole flashback of the time when she found out about the organization taking the twins).

[Tyekanik]

I lean towards Rafaela living, I'd like to see more of her, and revenge is more fun than death. Miria hates the organization for her friend hilda or whoever, Rafaela could hold a grudge for her sister easier. Killing Luc might have been Rafaela's responsibility for her part in losing Luc to awakening. Only problem is if Rafaela awakens she's a huge ass hypocrite for killing her sister then doing the same thing. I do hope however that not everyone will need to awaken to matter, Rafaela's been referred to as damn strong, she shouldn't need to.

Hell I've never killed a sibling, it could snap something on the spot and lead anywhere.

[Nood]

Setsuna: Yeah, that chapter was just translated like that, it took me some time to get the normal :)

Anyway I simply think she isn't the "must revenge" type of person. She found out about the organization tkaing in twins, she obviously knew about Alicia and Beth, yet she did nothing. Wouldn't you want to stop and take revenge on the organization before they do the same thing they did to you?
IF she would be the revenge type, she would've awakened at some point imo.

[Setsuna Ai]

Well I was thinking maybe she prioritized atoning for what happened to Luciela first THEN pwn the organization. If I were her I would feel the weight of my sister's tragedy more than the burden of knowing the organization's true schemes. Ergo sister first. Bastards later. If you think about it's a perfect plan. Pretend to be their pet and get to their good graces until she can find her sister. Afterwards, disappear and scheme in the dark corners of the deep. [well...it's not pefect but y'know =P]

[Nood]

So she waited until Alicia is completed, so no matter what she alone can't do anything, before she was completed, she could've fight and win, or just kill them in their sleep lol, she is in fact the number 3 so to say, or the second with the most power.

With this, she just blown all chances:
For the enemies of Isley and Priscilla, IE everyone. (even though she couldn't know lol)
For herself if she wanted revenge.
And obviously for our Ilena and Luciela...

[Setsuna Ai]

oh yeah good point. Hm. Well either way I hope she's not dead. Could she be just hiding and living a peaceful yet hidden life like Irene did?

[mangaman16]

what i like about this manga is the three way battle i.e. organisation versus the old seven especially miata versus galatea,the abyssal ones versus each other and pretty much anyone that gets in their way,except riful, and sadly clare has to face priscilla and probally the organisation and finally the organisation versus the abyssal ones.I just want clare to get her revenge and she and raki survive and escape the organisation for ever.The organisation and the abyssal ones could kill each other out.

[Nood]

A thing I1ve been thinking about, is does the organization even know about Priscilla's power?
yeah they know that shes bloody strong, and at the very least have the version Riful had in her battle with galatea&jean&clare, that she is clsoe to the abyssals.
But personally I think they don't know about her, the organizations attitude is quite agressive, as in they decided to hunt the awakened beings without requests. Probably thinking that with Alicia there, and 45 claymores as cannonfodder they could beat any of the abyssal ones, and that is apparantly true I think.

I wonder what would've happened if Galatea tells Rubul that she sensed 2 abyssal ones fighting nearby when she saw Alicia in work...
Alicia sent there, I wonder what would've happened. :)

[mangaman16]

i can't remember which battle you mean but if you meant isley and luciela i think luciela would've been killed and she and isley would probally be equal.Then again in one of the chapters alicia said at here current level she could fight riful to a certain extent then die sooo.....I was thinking that those men in black like rubel and the others have to be strong or have something that controls claymores but if they were this strong are they just using the claymores as pawns to do the hard work or they have no special powers and can't fight.

[Nood]

Nah, when alicia said that she wasn't "completed", so probably IMO she could only do partial awakenings or something, in her completed, 100% awakened body form she rivals the abyssal ones, this was stated by the blacksuits and Riful herself.

So they are killing awakened beings on their own just so they'll have an advantage when it comes to battle, while the organization can create claymores nonstop, they can't create awakened beings, and the claymores could be used to give the edge in battle to alicia.
Ofcourse they don't know about Priscilla's power I guess, so they became agressiv elike that.

[Tyekanik]

Priscilla's power is as you say most likely just guessed at. In order to know she's stronger than the abyssal ones you'd need a gauge that was in itself stronger than the abyssal ones or I'd figure they could only say damn, thems some tough *****es.

The organization seems pretty typical so far in its arrogance, leading to the likelihood of them thinking Alicia can beat Priscilla. If they somehow know just how scary Priscilla is, then they could well be making Alicia out of fear rather than arrogance. Not that they have much choice if they want to retain any real power, the power scale is leaving non-awakened beings behind.

Thats mainly why I want Rafaela to do something, not because of any given reason, just a personal desire to not follow shonen power rankings. So I keep looking for any route to that end, its fun this way :p

I can't remember but who all is capable of fighting besides Miyata in their normal non awakened state? I keep thinking only Rafaela....fuzzy memory. Galatea but I'm questioning her fighting until I see some more, I fear she may have been left behind :( bah. I need to re-read this stuff.

[Nood]

Ofcourse alicia was made out of fear, as Isley started moving.
We know that Priscilla is way stronger then the abyssals but as long as the organization doesnt, they'll just go on out hunting.

No non-awakened could'nt do anything against an abyssal.
Or atleast not Riful, Isley, or even best Priscilla. (even though we all know it'll happen)
Alicia on the other hand has Beth, and she has to defend her at all costs. If beth dies Alicia awakens completly, power won't change but she'll just start slaughtering anyone. So I bet its embedded into her brain that she must defend Beth, which can be exploited even by normal claymores to weaken her fighting.

Otherwise, Raphaela who didn't use yoki for the last 30years or so wouldn't be able to do much imo, Miata same, you kill clarice and she awakens like for the push of a button.
Ofc, a bigger team working together good, ie. the lucky seven like may be able to do some stuff before getting killed.

[mangaman16]

you mean the lucky 7 except clare because even if she is killed it better be after she kills priscilla.

[Tyekanik]

hey, priscilla might not even die :p

Go team Priscilla!

[Setsuna Ai]

Before the lucky 7 gets killed, I want to see vengeance take place and Clare reunite with Raki, then Raki dies from being useless (I should say disappear) Clare goes emo after having no purpose in life then they all just have sex and kill each other.

What I don't understand is how the hell Priscilla can get so attached to Raki for so long and not be tempted to eat him. And if Isely loves priscilla, then why is he letting another man (well...KID) get all over her...actually it's the reverse but still >.<

[Nood]

Hell knows, when they first met I hoped after the "This kid smells nice" line it would be "Do you want some too?" towards isley...

Raki'll protect Priscilla against Clare somehow then notice that its Clare and then WTF DIE.
Atleast I hope it'll something like that.
If Clare would kill Raki so she cna go against Priscilla...god that would be beutiful.

[Critical]

Hell knows, when they first met I hoped after the "This kid smells nice" line it would be "Do you want some too?" towards isley...
Raki'll protect Priscilla against Clare somehow then notice that its Clare and then WTF DIE.
Atleast I hope it'll something like that.
If Clare would kill Raki so she cna go against Priscilla...god that would be beutiful.

That would be great. Just imagine:

Clare after many hardships finds Priscilla, but then some "guy" (we assume Raki grows some tiny balls in these years here) appears saying "You shall not hurt..." but Clare just WTFPWNS him in the middle of his sentence and he dies in fountains of blood and gore and destruction.(ehem) After a second Clare notices something's wrong an says "Oh my, was that...? Nevermind."

[Setsuna Ai]

Poor Raki. He should've just stayed in one town and sewed amongst the women in the kitchen.

[mangaman16]

Poor Raki. He should've just stayed in one town and sewed amongst the women in the kitchen.
lol raki knows he will get his reward from clare in the end some good loving lol so thats why he stupidly follows her.i hope he doesn't think of clare as a big sister because that would be dumb.

[Nood]

No.
It must end with a tragedy!
Raki dies, probably on a staircase after doing something "heroic" and awesome.
And Clare goes lesbian...
Obviously in a world full of beutiful girls with slender bodies with perfectly shaped muscles on them (exc. Ray, fighting mode Undine), pale skin without any deformity or even a mole (exc. Raphaela), blonde/silver hair, and silver eyes, all this put into a skintight outfit, an ending with lesbian love included gotta have a chance over 90%, especially that the rest of the world is ugly as shit.
Besides, a happy end with Raki is just impossible. Clare lives forever, or turns into an awakened being at one point of time. Raki dies, if not for the fact that even Clare could kill him while having an orgasm, then by old age. So Clare would easily outlive him, which makes them incompatible.
He can't become a claymore, males suck at it, especially someone so short tempered and high in spirits as Raki, he would awaken the first time using hes Yoki.(He's also a virgin, counting in that releasing yoki gives sexual pleasure aswell, thats quite a bad point)
He can become an awakened one ofcourse, and live forever just like Clare.
But obviously, I don't think Clare would tolerate human's as lunch everyday.
Ofc, both of them could awaken, happy end...but Clare would killherself before that, and Raki would be killed by others before that.

I do not approve of an ending including:
A living Raki and Clare.
A living Raki.
A dying Raki AND a dying Clare.

Everything else is acceptible I guess. Including a dead raki, AND a dying Clare, that could be epic.

[Setsuna Ai]

I want Clare and Miria to make hot sweet love. =O. Actually, i wanted her to do Jean since Jean looks almost male therefore it's ok for me.

late response: rofl I thought Riful was going to rape that #3 claymore the lucky 7 tried to save with her tentacles...HAHA.

I do not approve of Raki dying before he sees Clare. First a reunion, then after that raki dies (i don't care how soon the latter happens).

//edit

when is chapter 74 gonna be released?

[nx6]

lol raki knows he will get his reward from clare in the end some good loving lol so thats why he stupidly follows her.
The Claymore all seem pretty asexual to me. Teresa didn't care when all those bandits were going to gang rape her.

Obviously in a world full of beutiful girls with slender bodies with perfectly shaped muscles on them (exc. Ray, fighting mode Undine), pale skin without any deformity or even a mole (exc. Raphaela), blonde/silver hair, and silver eyes, all this put into a skintight outfit, an ending with lesbian love included gotta have a chance over 90%, especially that the rest of the world is ugly as shit.
Don't forget that the Claymore are ugly too, under their outfits. I'd kinda like to see one. I'm visualizing greats tracts of flesh removed and patched with Yoma, kinda like a hillside that's had strip mining.

Besides, a happy end with Raki is just impossible. Clare lives forever, or turns into an awakened being at one point of time. Raki dies, if not for the fact that even Clare could kill him while having an orgasm... LMAO

I do not approve of an ending including:
A living Raki and Clare.
A living Raki.
A dying Raki AND a dying Clare.

Everything else is acceptible I guess. Including a dead raki, AND a dying Clare, that could be epic. Sounds like what you really want is Raki to die and Clare to continue on.

[mangaman16]

The Claymore all seem pretty asexual to me. Teresa didn't care when all those bandits were going to gang rape her.
Don't forget that the Claymore are ugly too, under their outfits. I'd kinda like to see one. I'm visualizing greats tracts of flesh removed and patched with Yoma, kinda like a hillside that's had strip mining
.
.lol she didn't care because she probally wanted it anyway because she wanted to try something new for excitement.And stupid clare had to stop the show. just jk but if she did not like it she would have pushed them off and ran so even though she was dissapointed that the people she had to protect were rapist it seemed as if she didn't mind the gang rape.
And about the ugliness under the outfits,raki wouldn't mind if clare could tear off the bottom half of the outfit and leave the top to hide the scar or w/e.Or he loves her so much he wouldn't mind at all.Anyhow,i'm finished before i get caught up in perverted talk.
And when will chapter 74 come out.I want to see miata and galatea fight.

[Nood]

I TOTALLY WOULDNT MIND the scar on their belly...!!!

But either way, awaken your torso, revert, scar gone! Jean did it :)
If Jean stays alive Raki's chances of being together with Clare are like 0,

like, "Sorry kid but now I'M following Clare and I beat the holy sh*t out of your human ass, and on top of it I look way too sexy, so go drown in a puddle"

I'm still mourning her death...
Setsuna: Ofcourse, Raki must die before Clare's eyes.
nx6: No, I don't mind Clare dying but: not Before Raki, and not Together with Raki. Dying a day after Raki died is fine.

About Teresa, I don't think she wanted to get f*cked there at all, she just didn't care.
On the other hand she could've beat them up and leave, as in the law only forbids killing.

[mangaman16]

I now remembered something when clare told raki they are trained to act like prostitutes and asked him if he wants a demonstration and,i wonder what she would have done lol.I wonder who trains them to do that.

[Tyekanik]

Thats why those old bastards are always smiling...grr

[Nood]

I now remembered something when clare told raki they are trained to act like prostitutes and asked him if he wants a demonstration and,i wonder what she would have done lol.I wonder who trains them to do that.

She said she can produce the "seducive smile of a prostitute"...
In the anime, you can see it at the kissing scene, that was it IMO.
Manga left it out sadly :(

Better question WHY did they train them to do that?
The yoma can sense the Claymores, the claymores can sense the yoma, and I can't imagine where the claymore who (for example using energy suppresants) would need to seduce the yoma/awakened being whatever, before cutting it up, since both a yoma or awakened ebing would just rape/kill, not like they would need to eb seduced.

[Critical]

I think they are trained in "acting" to blend with the crowd in places like Rabona where Claymores are unwelcome.

Also, when Clare told Raki about the "prostitute smile" it was merely meant to just how much she could "act" IMO.

[mangaman16]

my bad.i knew i was leaving out something but all i rememberd was the word prostitute and not the smile part.But about the other question,if those men in black train them they will have to be some really queer men.

[nx6]

She said she can produce the "seducive smile of a prostitute"...
In the anime, you can see it at the kissing scene, that was it IMO.
Manga left it out sadly :(

I thought the manga was more suggestive than the anime, actually. In the anime, it seemed she was really meaning she could act the part. But the manga implied she would have demonstrated further I thought.

[Nood]

What do you mean?
I think the scene she said that was basically identical.
Ofcourse, the anime has rigid-angry-emotionless (edit: How did I describe someone angry and emotionless at the same time?) Clare saying it, while the manga has the innocent-attitude Clare saying it.

[Setsuna Ai]

What do you mean?
I think the scene she said that was basically identical.
Ofcourse, the anime has rigid-angry-emotionless (edit: How did I describe someone angry and emotionless at the same time?) Clare saying it, while the manga has the innocent-attitude Clare saying it.
you can describe it by doing this:

her brows were furrowed, as if glaring while she spoke monotonously.

[nx6]

I dunno. Maybe it was just the way I interpretted the mood of the manga verses how it was actually done in the anime. Like I always saw the Claymores as colder emotionally than they were in the anime. The townspeople a little bit quieter, when they walk into the village, the atmosphere more errie.

There's little things about the anime that bug me.

Edit:

you can describe it by doing this:
her brows were furrowed, as if glaring while she spoke monotonously.
Maybe that's it. In the anime she says it real matter-of-factly and seems slightly pissed while in the manga it seems more playful.

[Setsuna Ai]

yeah it makes me laugh when i see the differences in the manga. In the manga, when she's just being "playful" or nonchalant, her expression is as expressionless (and cute) as it should be and when she IS angry, it's just right. However in the anime, she looks pissed off all the time and when she talks it's like she's trying to hide her anger. And when she IS angry her face looks like it's ....well...it's repulsive D:

[Kyoko<3!]

Clare is cute as shit in the manga o.o;;

[mangaman16]

Clare is cute but luciela is the best looking character in claymore manga in her human form.The awakened form is just nasy.

[Nood]

Maybe its my tastes but I disagree....shes like one of theose "everyday beuties". :)
Best looking male in human form was Rigaldo, best looking female would be Teresa imo. :)

[Tyekanik]

Theresa with the black hair and I might agree, her going blond she lost a bit. Miria with her hair pulled back might actually get my vote, guess it depends on which pale beauty's hair style/countenance I prefer at the time, not like one has a better body over another.

Yeah, Miria with the pulled back hair :p

[Setsuna Ai]

i don't understand how teresa with blond hair isn't beautiful. She's easily one of the prettiest.

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa167/Maki_Manga/Claymore%20chapter%2012/Claymorev03078.jpg?t=1185839496

[Tyekanik]

because we are different people and if we all felt the same way life would suck :p

I didn't say not pretty, I said less so than the black hair

[Kodoku]

My vote would probably go to Ophelia, demented as she is. In Claymore form that is, not human(ish). Second place would, in a totally heterosexual way, have to go to Ligardes.

Also Ilena has awesome ears. If she'd given Clare those instead of her arm I'd be happy.

[Setsuna Ai]

Elf ears doesn't suit me. Oh yes i totally forgot about Ophelia. She was smexy when she got out of her "awakened being body".

[Nood]

Teresa is a beuty:

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a109/sin_gfx/teresaisabeuty.png


For those who disagree, death is imminent.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a109/sin_gfx/deathisimminent.png


Vector still not finished so don1t search for the other end of the cloth, aswell as what was Teresa holding onto. (Clare)
(Man b&w is way too hard for this resolution)

[mangaman16]

Yea i give up teresa looks better than luciela.Even when her head is off lol but when she lost her head that angered man alot.

[Critical]

I found a few funny images ^^

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8291/yomamaycrytx0.jpg

<3 Helen
This guy has a nice drawing style. She looks so adorable :)

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5971/helenjy2.jpg
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/4969/helen1xg8.jpg

[mangaman16]

I can't believe what i just saw saw on another forum.I saw that chapter 74 is coming out in November!wtf and August,September and November will all have those extra scene chapters like flashbacks.I heard that this is true.Oh well if it is but if the anime is only 26 episodes then the anime will probally be skipping those extra scenes out and they aren't that bad but i really want to see miata and galatea fighting.
WTF those drawings are funny and the person can draw well.

[Nood]

Miria and Galatea fighting?

Well certainly its annoying, but it doesn't have anything to do with the anime.
If they are lucky they'll make an OVA of the extra chapters if they are like that.

Though, I wonder if that is true, and why is it, as in if he can't draw manga for a few months ok, but in this case he can, he just does irrelevant chapters. :O

[Setsuna Ai]

I found a few funny images ^^
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8291/yomamaycrytx0.jpg
<3 Helen
This guy has a nice drawing style. She looks so adorable :)
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5971/helenjy2.jpg
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/4969/helen1xg8.jpg

LOL!

when is chapter 74 coming out? no one is telling me...

[mangaman16]

There is a rumor that chapter 74 will be in November.If the rumor is a lie don't forget i only said it was a rumor but i somehow believe it.The extra scenes aren't that bad though.

[Setsuna Ai]

that sucks D: .... here we are torturing a one month wait...but we had to prepare for THIS kind of wait. I experienced the same with nana...

Anyways i want to see a Riful fight... not a meaningless one either. =O

[Nood]

Extra chapter 2 out:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/x9zzy8

A manga filler, Ophelia and Miria inside, open with caution.

[mangaman16]

lol thanks for the chapter

[Kodoku]

Thanks Nood.

[Achilles]

Claymore rulez! just watched the 19th eps. I wanna read the manga too so from which chapter can ı start?

[Nood]

I recommend starting with chapter 41, part 1 of The Witch's Maw part, you've seen it in the anime, but details, and important stuff was left out, until then its identical.
Just in case you dont care, ch. 53 would be the next on the anime I think.

[99wattr89]

I just read Claymore up to chapter 73, it was very good, but I had a really hard time telling the Claymores apart... Dx

Can anyone tell me what the release schedule is for Claymore and where to get new chapters after they come out?

[Nood]

It comes out once a month, not sur eon the release date.
Well, its a choice you can check this thread for it as I'll post them if nooone else did. I usually find it on tokyotosho.com's manga releases part(torrent), or just randomly on 4chan.
There are 2 extra chapters out aside from 73, if you read back here you cna find links for both.

About telling them apart...I never had a problem with it.

[99wattr89]

It comes out once a month, not sur eon the release date.
Well, its a choice you can check this thread for it as I'll post them if nooone else did. I usually find it on tokyotosho.com's manga releases part(torrent), or just randomly on 4chan.
There are 2 extra chapters out aside from 73, if you read back here you cna find links for both.
About telling them apart...I never had a problem with it.
Thanks for the information.

I'm just bad with names and faces, so since they all wear the same outfits I get mixed up easily...
When they fought the Awakened Ones in the village in the north I completely lost track of who was who... x_x

[Nood]

lol :D
I could always make out who is who, except for Noel and sophia, not because they look similar (they don't) I just couldn't ever burn the names into my mind, so now they are just Noel&Sophia instead of individuals. :)

Though the northwar could get a bit cramped, they barely showed the nonames, and the not nameless ones had features that were easily recognizeable.

[Setsuna Ai]

As strange as this may sound but I always swap Helen and Deneve's names...

I think it's pretty easy distinguishing the names, mostly because there's that specific hairstyle or personality or charisma each claymore have. However, I find Miria and Galatea to be oddly similar.

[Nood]

Nah, I only had trouble in that with the Clare hair alike claymores, like theres one who's hair looks exactly the same as Clare's from one side, this also kinda applies to Helene, her hair can look the same aswell (but atleast her face is distinctive) :)
At the start I swapped their names too, but then I just had to memorize that Helene is the tomboyish one(Now thats something you won't mistake someone else for, as in shes the only one ever), and deneve is the useless.

[99wattr89]

If only I was better with names... Dx

If I re-read the series I'll probably find it easier to remember who's who, but in some of the battle scenes there are several Claymores with almost the same hairstyle and face... I doubt I'll ever be able to tell some of them apart in those scenes...

[Setsuna Ai]

i have a question, in Claymore extra scene 2, who was ranked #1 during Miria's time as #8?

[Kyoko<3!]

i have a question, in Claymore extra scene 2, who was ranked #1 during Miria's time as #8?

Probably still Alicia because Ophelia was still #4 I believe.

[Nood]

It was Alicia by then, right after Teresa's class, the next had both Clare and Alicia in it.
Class 76 = Luciela & Raphaela
Class 77 = Teresa and former No.1 Rosemary, while Raphaela is wandering and stuff. (Though, I feel some holes here, and think that Teresa may have been No.1 for more then just one class, that would push Raphaela's up to class 75, but this comes only because I don't think that Teresa was a Claymore only for a sole 6-7 years)
Class 78 = Alicia & Beth, No.47 Clare

Ophelia's family got done in by the awakened Priscilla, which means she became a Claymore after Teresa died. (Unlike people like Galatea)
So by the time Ophelia got that far the only No.1 could be Alicia (though, at that time Raphaela should've been stronger then her)

[Kyoko<3!]

Raphaela IS stronger than her, though I forget/don't know why she's only number 5.

Ilena (number 2 in Teresa's time until Priscilla advanced.) questioned her on the matter (and commented that she needed both arms to have even a chance of staying alive.), but Raphaela gave her no answer.

[Nood]

Raphaela isn't stronger then Alicia.
They would be on par, if Alicia couldn't just awaken.
Alicia is abyssal level, Raphaela is as strong as Luciela, Luciela is abyssal level.
But to be on that level you need to awaken. Plus, Raphaela has only 1 eye, thats a disadvantage.

[Anubisrage]

Does anyone except me think that the Silver King Easley is the coolest awakened being yet?
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/7467/claymore11170axz2.png
By anubisrage (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/anubisrage) at 2007-08-20

[mangaman16]

No you're not the only one because after i saw his awakened form i realised he was the coolest.Also he is probally one tough opponent because his homing arrows are probally infinite.

[Setsuna Ai]

Aren't they also, homing arrows? That's kind of cool, when he first fired them i thought it was pretty lame and that his form was just for show..that is until..i saw their real power =O.

Btw priscilla is the most unimaginative awakened being i've ever seen. two wings and a horn. Phail moar @ creativity.

[Nood]

Aren't they also, homing arrows? That's kind of cool, when he first fired them i thought it was pretty lame and that his form was just for show..that is until..i saw their real power =O.

Btw priscilla is the most unimaginative awakened being i've ever seen. two wings and a horn. Phail moar @ creativity.

Hows a tentaclemonster or a centaur any more creative, I dont get it, on the other hand Luciela was good.

[mangaman16]

Luciela was disgusting!lol but creative.BTW what was her special ability other than those disgusting mouths?She probally has speed but isley has homing arrows and riful has a sword proof body and killer ribbons.

[Nood]

Well who knows, her mouth stuff is pretty special as it instantly made Isley's arrows useless.
Riful don't got a swordproof body, they probably all have that (xcept Luciela obviously), the more Yoki, the harder they can make their body, so to cut Riful or Isley a great deal of force must be applied.
Riful's head can be cut down, problem is, that might not kill her, afterall, her human-shaped part is just ribbons aswell...
Luciela don't have/do that since if she gets cut or something, she'll devour the attacker/sword/xy.
So if I were to say what their known speciality's are:
Riful: weird body, as in it doesn't really show an obvious weakpoint, she might just hide herself underground while the human-shaped part of her does the talking.
Isley: Homing arrows or not, he seems to be able to morph hes body to quite a high level. As in, hes homing arrows are basically flying parts of himself, rather then "homing" they see and follow.
Luciela: As much as we saw, same body as Riful in another manner, while riful has no weakpoints, Luciela's body counters attack no matter where they come from, I guess (with a pretty disgusting counter).

[mangaman16]

Very true nood but by swordproof i meant that if you chop her,her body just splits and she probally doesn't feel it.About luciela,i think her teeth are used for defense so what does she attack with other than claws or w/e she has on her hands?

[Nood]

Tentacles with mouthes on it? :P

Well, you just have to cut Riful horizontally and not vertically.

[mangaman16]

Oh yeah i forgot about those tentacles/tails or w/e they are.Her abilites is the cause of why i think isley had the edge over her.Because she has to be a close range fighter if she wants to land attacks but isley could fight at both close and from far because of his arrows and tht other thing on his other hand lol.

[Nood]

Well, arrows are pretty useless, she just eats them as we saw, thats why Isley choose to go close range immedietly after the first shot.

[mangaman16]

True but anyhow i wish the manga had shown how they beat up one another but i still think isley won the fight.I would never forgive raphaela for what she did because imo luciela seemed to be the kindest and least evil abyssal one imo.I would have liked her to finish off isley another time.

[Nood]

Well he obviously won the fight, he just couldnt finish her of.
And Raphaela wasn't any more or less evil then the rest, she wasn't human, she wanted Raphaela to awaken etc...

[mangaman16]

You're right as usual nood.But i meant that isley was the one who tried to conquer the south and other lands,correct me if i'm wrong,and riful wanted to torture certain claymore to recruit strong awakened beings.Luciela just stood quietly in the south although she could have probally had evil plans to carry out.But at the end of the day sexy or not she still eats human guts lol.She probally just wanted raphaela to awakened and help defeat isley and then who wouldn't take over someone's land if they killed them.

[Nood]

Hmm? Though the grammar seems flawed cause I suck at wording, why would I change it as long as ts understandable?

Well, its true that she didn't do much, but Riful's torturing wasn't evil aswell, she wanted allies, and thats the only (non-hentai) way to do that, as it seems that she and Duphe were loners so to say, unlike Isley who had control over the awakened beings of the north from the beginning.
So in the end its not like Riful did anythign while waiting for Isley to make hes move, in the end she didn't have even one awakened claymore with her aside from Duphe.
So, IMO both of them were just waiting for the battle commence and then strike at the loser, or both.

[mangaman16]

So isley is the lone evil one then.I still think riful's mentality is flawed.I think luciela was killed off to quick.Although she had a backstory and all,she didn't even have a lover lol unless he or she was not mentioned.BTW it looks like were the only ones checking this forum but i won't like to see the thread die down so.....

[Setsuna Ai]

Hows a tentaclemonster or a centaur any more creative, I dont get it, on the other hand Luciela was good.
well riful isn't the most creative but at least her characteristics and abilities are extremely distinguishable and idk....cooler-looking?

isely being a centaur is creative, IMO, and very pretty. To Priscilla, it looks like they took a yoma and put wings on it with an additional horn. Luciela reminded me of Andariel, from the game Diablo II. Anyone remember that? lol

Well, its true that she didn't do much, but Riful's torturing wasn't evil aswell, she wanted allies, and thats the only (non-hentai) way to do that
rofl @ non-hentai. Yeah the more i re-read the recent chatpers the more i think, "hentai!" or "tentacle sex!" or "yoma ass raping!"

but yeah

besides being psychotic, how is Riful's mentality flawed? I liked her plan.

[mangaman16]

Well i wonder if isley will be killed later in the manga and who will do it.I don't see riful dying but i know priscilla has to be killed off by Clare in the most dramatic and violent way ever.Even more violent that what ligardo got lol.

[Nood]

Riful's plan at the time was completly flawed. Unless he gets someone like number 1 or 2 awaken and join her, its stupid to recruit people like that. She got 12 awakene dbeings sent against them it took like a few seconds to take them out. Isley could've done the same. So whats the point in a useless cannon fodder army? She knows the diffrence in strength, and knows no matter how many of these comes Isley would kill them in seconds, without even slowing him down.
It was a stupid plan.

Imo, I hope in the end, the lucky 7 and Riful will side, Riful will kill Isley and they'll go for Priscilla or something, or vice versa, and then Clare helps in killing Priscilla for the plot's sake or something. :)

Funnily enough Priscilla barely differs from aflying Yoma (which exist), she got a horn, and armor-tits.
But I still like her form, it shows that shes just an utterly distorted human. :)

[mangaman16]

I've been wondering,what makes priscilla such a strong awakened being other than her former claymore rank.Is it her speed?because they are yoma that can fly and extend killer fingers.Maybe she has something else.Yea and i hope riful and the seven side against isley.But the organisation is still le