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Gojira
05-22-2007, 07:42 PM
I've recently watched an amazing documentary called Loose Change.

Loose Change is an independent documentary made by film students that basically states that the United States Government was, at the very least, criminally negligent in allowing the attacks of September 11th, 2001 to occur. But the documentary, goes a little deeper than just stating that the US Government knew and allowed it... The film is saying that this was the direct action of the US Government against its own people.

The film talks about all the events from that fateful day. It talks about the attack on the Pentagon, the plane crash in Pennsylvania, the attack on the WTC, to who really had the most to gain from the events of that day.

So Far, there are 2 editions of this film, with a third edition set to come out later this year. I've only seen the second edition and to be honest, I don't know if it could be true. The most shocking thing that the film says is that WTC fell due to a planned demolition of the building. I know this seems very crazy... In the film, they take footage of the building fall and show frame by frame... small explosions happening all over the building as its falling. They also provide eye witness acounts from civilians, firefighters and police officers that say they heard a series of explosions happening from within the buildings as they fell.

Another shocking thing that they claim is that the Pentagon was hit by a low flying MISSILE rather than a plane. They show the wreckage and state there is no evidence of a plane hitting the building. Mysterious fuselage, absence of engine wreckage, even the shape of the hole is more consistent with a missile rather than a plane.

Anyways, I was wondering if I was there is anyone else here who has seen this documentary. I know this is a very sensitive subject to some people, and I'm not saying I support one side or another and my heart goes out to the families in this tragedy. I would just really like to see what you think about it. Anyways, I guess my question is...

Do you think its possible that the US could plan and execute something like this against its own people?

EDIT: Also, if you wanna check out the website... http://www.loosechange911.com/

Milan
05-22-2007, 08:38 PM
My crazy Dutch teacher always said Bush planned it. But here's another quote of him:
In 50 years, you blink with your eyes and you're in America
He saw conspiracies in everything :P

Rorschach
05-22-2007, 08:44 PM
Loose Change should be a Mockumentary :rolleye09

I don't know if it could be true
Because it isn't true

The most shocking thing that the film says is that WTC fell due to a planned demolition of the building. I know this seems very crazy... In the film, they take footage of the building fall and show frame by frame... small explosions happening all over the building as its falling. They also provide eye witness acounts from civilians, firefighters and police officers that say they heard a series of explosions happening from within the buildings as they fell.
That would require an insane amount of explosives, and the people who worked at the WTC would've noticed the strange activities (the setting up bombs). Plus just because the "heard Explosions" doesn't mean it was a bomb

Another shocking thing that they claim is that the Pentagon was hit by a low flying MISSILE rather than a plane. They show the wreckage and state there is no evidence of a plane hitting the building. Mysterious fuselage, absence of engine wreckage, even the shape of the hole is more consistent with a missile rather than a plane.
The pentagon is one of strongest buildings made, it was designed to be a super tough building, because well thats where the military operates.

Bottom Left of the building
http://www.911myths.com/assets/images/db_images/db_Pentagon_Debris_110.jpg

Remains of an Engine
http://www.911myths.com/assets/images/db_images/db_Pentagon_Debris_101.jpg

Wheel Rim
http://www.911myths.com/assets/images/db_images/db_Pentagon_Debris_111.jpg

Self Explanatory
http://www.911myths.com/assets/images/db_images/db_Pentagon_Debris_121.jpg

Landing Gear
http://www.911myths.com/assets/images/db_images/db_Pentagon_Debris_131.jpg

Door
http://www.911myths.com/assets/images/db_images/db_Pentagon_Debris_41.jpg

again Self Explanatory
http://www.911myths.com/assets/images/db_images/db_Pentagon_Debris_91.jpg

Also they did find the remains of the people who where on the plane.We've even had a witness on this board who worked at the pentagon see a plane hit the building (i'll dig it up)

It would've taken years of planning and executing, something in that time would've leaked out (longer than Bush would've been in office), or now and nothing has.

edit: as promised
http://forums.bleachportal.net/showpost.php?p=799047&postcount=2

Gojira
05-22-2007, 09:08 PM
Heh, that pretty much seals it. I was on the fence about the validity of that movie... Man, that shit was whaaaaaaack.

dragoneyes001
05-23-2007, 02:47 AM
I went directly to the hotbed site for these "IT WAS THE GOVERNMENT WHO DID IT" yahoo's

turned around posted a thread explaining exactly why the twin towers fell the way they did was asked to prove things like the Styrofoam in office seats burns at about 600 degrees hotter than AVgas does(plenty hot enough to melt steel) explained why several hundred electrical ground failures because a plane ripped through the building would cause the substations in the basement and subsequently during the collapse make all the on floor substations explode because a few thousand AMPs going to ground will make a hell of a bang! in effect i debunked pretty much all their stupid theories in one thread their response was to flush the thread as fast as they could because a site called aviators for truth can't possibly stand having reality interfere with their loads of well fabricated bullcrap they worked so hard to create.

DatLatina!
05-23-2007, 02:50 AM
Zilla so it wasnt terriorist bro or was it. im confused cause they say terrorists caused them but was it realy the gov. i would b mad as hell

dragoneyes001
05-23-2007, 02:54 AM
Zilla so it wasnt terriorist bro or was it. im confused cause they say terrorists caused them but was it realy the gov. i would b mad as hell

sorry to say this but the US government is just too damn stupid to pull it off!

the secret would leak even before they could manage to do it.

what they are stupid enough to do is ignore dozens of red flags that were being sent up about something that was going to happen.

DatLatina!
05-23-2007, 02:56 AM
O i must of not understood it correctly

Shaehl
05-25-2007, 02:20 PM
This "documentary" is old and has been trashed countless times.

Really, if the government is capable and willing to bring about the deaths of thousands of their own, tax paying citizens, why on Earth would it allow the Loose Change creator to continue existing?

Observe:
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

Vampyrelord
05-25-2007, 03:12 PM
Oops, I can't believe I missed this, I must be getting old :(

a) There is already at least one thread on this. The Search Function is your friend :)
b) This topic is touchy and often results in flaming
c) There's no real evidence to debate here - just speculation based on assertions and massively blown up, grainy photos. Loose Change is very out of date and it's arguments have been pulled apart repeatedly, by specialists and scientists.

A final thought; look at the Bush administration's lack of success in Iraq, mainly down to poor planning and early misjudgements. How could anyone argue they were capable of organising the 9/11 attacks and getting away with it?

But hey, that's just my opinion. If you want to debate this, do so in the old thread.

/trashed

Gojira
05-25-2007, 03:24 PM
Whoops... Sorry, I just saw the movie and wanted to post it up. Anyways, Everyone in here pretty much is in agreement. Sorry for the Posting the same tread twice!

DatLatina!
06-03-2007, 05:54 PM
Ok when I think of the 9/11 stuff like that I hate.It's cause stuff like that makes me think like if it's necssray 2 talk bout somethin that happened in 2001 and that if it should still b mentioned i just hate it cause then it makes us look bad

Twinky
06-04-2007, 12:35 AM
yeah yeah lose change BS, you dont know how many times they edited the video so drop it

DatLatina!
06-04-2007, 09:45 PM
this is confusing but susprising

Hannah
06-05-2007, 01:51 PM
kinda bush, kinda tricky

DatLatina!
06-05-2007, 11:01 PM
kinda bush, kinda tricky
i knew that or did i