Reperations for African-Americans!

[Tokoyami]

So President Bush hinted towards reperations from slavery. He said that Slavery has affected us deeply and its effects are still felt today and thats wone reason why some couldnt leave New Orleans. Or something along those lines. He then said this problem will be fixed. Which some have said may mean reperations for slavery.

What do you guys think?

Do you think that this means Reperations would be the right thing to do?

And do you think Reperations will be given?

[eXces]

Im all for reperations, but the inability for some people to leave New Orleans are Local and Federal Governmental failures. I live in Miami, Florida we usually have 1 or 2 hurricanes come our way each year and our local government is on point when it comes to evacuating the lower Keys and coastal areas. However, I believe experience is the best teaching tool and our local government has this routine down to a "t" but New Orleans has never had a hurricane before but there seriously is no excuse for not getting word out to evacute. What failed New Orleans was FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) which is basically the middle man between the local government resources and federal resources and President Bush. BTW, I hate President Bush a Christian Conservative Movement. They sat on there ass for 5 days after the hurricane hit, no national gaurd. The Red Cross was the only available resources hurricane survivors had.

[strydr]

So President Bush hinted towards reperations from slavery. He said that Slavery has affected us deeply and its effects are still felt today and thats wone reason why some couldnt leave New Orleans. Or something along those lines. He then said this problem will be fixed. Which some have said may mean reperations for slavery.

What do you guys think?

Do you think that this means Reperations would be the right thing to do?

And do you think Reperations will be given?

I dont know what reperations are, but i live in Africa, so i root African-american anyday, you have to help previously disadvantaged - like me i am of the malaysian slaves who were brought to South Africa by the British, so if we can help the previously disadvantaged then by all means do so!!!

[sinkinswimmer]

uhhh... last time i checked, using money to make an issue go away only makes it worse. i don't think reparations are needed or necessary.

[Tokoyami]

I dont know what reperations are, but i live in Africa, so i root African-american anyday, you have to help previously disadvantaged - like me i am of the malaysian slaves who were brought to South Africa by the British, so if we can help the previously disadvantaged then by all means do so!!!

Reperations, it would be money payed to black people for slavery. Either money or some kind of collateral

[mutter]

That’s the worst idea ever! No one that was a slave is still around. it was over 200 years ago if he does do that then all Japanese Americans should get the same thing for being put into concentration camps in the states during WWII. I have not heard one good reason for this. And if you’re in the slums and you think you can’t get out your wrong! leave the slums get some FREE help to get on your feet they have stuff like that now a days if you just look around you can find all sorts of stuff to help you to become at the minimum high middle class. The problem is how easy we all let go of dreams. I feel if there were slaves they should get a crap load of money but there’s not so deal with it. dun dun dua

[Sandal Hat]

^Ignorance is bliss :)

[papaya]

ehh really cant see any good comin from reperations.....heres some money for the slaves from back in the day.....its to late for reperations

[Sandal Hat]

If he could run for president next year then i might see him giving reperations but since he can't be reelected next year then he probably isn't gonna bother.also i don't think any reperations are gonna happen for a while considering the extensive hurricane damage and theres another coming this way again

[Tokoyami]

^Ignorance is bliss :)

lol, isnt it!

Well japanese do deserve the samething. But the money would go towards all blacks. No shit the money wouldnt go to any slaves, they have long since died, but it would go to those familys who are affected by the major poverty slaves were dropped into after being freed.

[Apocalypse]

I don't see any particular purpose in this. For the most part, racism is pretty much gone in this country. I admit, there are still some stereotypes stupid people make, but no one forces anyone to become slaves anymore... nor does the general public feel angry towards those with dark-colored skin. Furthermore, the people who were actually a part of the unfortunate act of "slavery" are no longer with us in this world. While I understand some people may feel angry or insecure due to their ancestor's past, I don't think that is a good reason to pay them off.

It seems to be too late for any reperations. If they were to do any, they should have done them long ago when people were still actually effected by slavery. In fact, I think reperations may have already been given out for this purpose many years ago; I am not exactly sure when though.

[Tokoyami]

I don't see any particular purpose in this. For the most part, racism is pretty much gone in this country. I admit, there are still some stereotypes stupid people make, but no one forces anyone to become slaves anymore... nor does the general public feel angry towards those with dark-colored skin. Furthermore, the people who were actually a part of the unfortunate act of "slavery" are no longer with us in this world. While I understand some people may feel angry or insecure due to their ancestor's past, I don't think that is a good reason to pay them off.

It seems to be too late for any reperations. If they were to do any, they should have done them long ago when people were still actually effected by slavery. In fact, I think reperations may have already been given out for this purpose many years ago; I am not exactly sure when though.

lol no they werent given out, im sure everyone would have heard of it if they were.

But the effects of salvery are the cause of SOME of the black poverty in America. The money would be to counter those effects.

Though there are those who jsut cant save there damn money, both white and black.

[ssjharsh]

I think there is nothing wrong with helping those in need, whether in financial terms or any other, but do not bring up the idea of slavery reparations. What good does it do anyone by paying the possible descendants of slaves a large sum of money? Is that going to remove the pain and suffering of their ancestors? I mean, if this was done soon after the Civil War, I could understand, but now, how would you even know who gets money and who does not? I cannot imagine that people have records of their ancestors tracing back to the 1800s. Furthermore, what is a good amount to give? Should they be given pain and suffering damages as well? If you want to help the poor folk of the nation, do not do it because of race or 200 year old injustices (that no one who was mistreated can even be recompensated for), do it because that is the right and compassionate thing to do.

Btw, on a sidenote... the Japanese in camps in the US during WWII did recieve monetary reparations after the war and the US admitted its misuse of power. Look up exectuve order 9066

[slimgotti]

Its sad that it takes a major hurricane for the Pres to have this idea pop in his head. seems like he's trying to take the focus of how the GOV. messed up. i say straighten the mess in N.O first handle the other things later

[Tokoyami]

I think there is nothing wrong with helping those in need, whether in financial terms or any other, but do not bring up the idea of slavery reparations. What good does it do anyone by paying the possible descendants of slaves a large sum of money? Is that going to remove the pain and suffering of their ancestors? I mean, if this was done soon after the Civil War, I could understand, but now, how would you even know who gets money and who does not? I cannot imagine that people have records of their ancestors tracing back to the 1800s. Furthermore, what is a good amount to give? Should they be given pain and suffering damages as well? If you want to help the poor folk of the nation, do not do it because of race or 200 year old injustices (that no one who was mistreated can even be recompensated for), do it because that is the right and compassionate thing to do.

Btw, on a sidenote... the Japanese in camps in the US during WWII did recieve monetary reparations after the war and the US admitted its misuse of power. Look up exectuve order 9066


You miss understand, the money would not be for apologizing on the governments part, or to warm the hearts of black people, the money would be from the free labor that blacks did, African Americans would receive the money they should have normally received during slavery.

Its not just to make everyone feel better, its all financial.

[ssjharsh]

Its good to make reparations for the wageless work, but the problem is that all the african-americans who were enslaved are long dead, so then who does the money go to?

If you give it to rheir descendants, how do you know who are descendants from someone who was enslaved, since there has been voluntary migration to U.S from all over the world, including Africa. Why should those who may have come only 50 or 100 yrs ago recieve reparations for a crime they were not victim to? And to take it one step further, even the descendants of those who were enslaved really have no claim on the money, since it was not they who were wronged. In fact, why should my tax dollars pay for the mistakes of a bunch of people who I did not and do not know. I mean its not that I personally mind, but that is a valid argument, since it was a select few rich, southern families who treated the black people of this nation very poorly for so long, so it is only fair that they handle the bulk of the reparations. There are even people who would say that they came to this nation escpaing slave-like conditions, and are now successful on their own, without anyone paying them reparations, so they would be wronged if their money was taken and freely given to another. There are so many logistical questions, and the fact that by trying to help one group of people you are harming another, that it makes me feel reparations are not the way to go.

[Tokoyami]

Its good to make reparations for the wageless work, but the problem is that all the african-americans who were enslaved are long dead, so then who does the money go to?

If you give it to rheir descendants, how do you know who are descendants from someone who was enslaved, since there has been voluntary migration to U.S from all over the world, including Africa. Why should those who may have come only 50 or 100 yrs ago recieve reparations for a crime they were not victim to? And to take it one step further, even the descendants of those who were enslaved really have no claim on the money, since it was not they who were wronged. In fact, why should my tax dollars pay for the mistakes of a bunch of people who I did not and do not know. I mean its not that I personally mind, but that is a valid argument, since it was a select few rich, southern families who treated the black people of this nation very poorly for so long, so it is only fair that they handle the bulk of the reparations. There are even people who would say that they came to this nation escpaing slave-like conditions, and are now successful on their own, without anyone paying them reparations, so they would be wronged if their money was taken and freely given to another. There are so many logistical questions, and the fact that by trying to help one group of people you are harming another, that it makes me feel reparations are not the way to go.


thats true, those who's ancestors werent subjected to slavery in the U.S. shouldnt be paid, but i would think they would somehow trace a persons eritage before handing out the money. I dont kno, im sur ethey would find a way if that question comes up.

[Pharcyde]

allright, to start things off im not a racist, but reparations are total bull. my father is a first generation pole, who came to the us not speaking english, and a couple of peoplecame and asked him for reparations. my dad wasn't a slave owner, im not a slave owner, there are no "slaves" in america. the fact is everyone is able to push out of their social status, but they must have the initiative, my father was the son of a peasant, and he worked his ass through school, in which he himself had to pay for, and he became a Research Chemist, his wish for me, and my goal is to advance on that, but never forget the morals of my roots, peasantry. As for sons and daughters of slaves, its over, your not a slave, and your slave ancestors are dead. you acheived equality in my eyes, and many others. what more matters. they acheived equal education and equal right, and equal pay, they dont need ancestrial slave money. In the words of Family guy, It doesn't matter if one is black or white, the only color that matters is green.

[_strangechild_]

I'm not sure about reparations.. I don't really have an opinion.

Pharcyde: I don't agree about equality. I don't think equality will ever truely happen. Not just for black people, but for other people too. There's still still racism, sexism etc and it does effect things such as opportunities for jobs.

[Pharcyde]

you prove a good point, but its better now than it was 70 years ago

[_strangechild_]

I guess so. Though, I don't know much about other countries and so I don't know if I can say that for the whole of the world. So, I think at least it's contained better.

[Tokoyami]

allright, to start things off im not a racist, but reparations are total bull. my father is a first generation pole, who came to the us not speaking english, and a couple of peoplecame and asked him for reparations. my dad wasn't a slave owner, im not a slave owner, there are no "slaves" in america. the fact is everyone is able to push out of their social status, but they must have the initiative, my father was the son of a peasant, and he worked his ass through school, in which he himself had to pay for, and he became a Research Chemist, his wish for me, and my goal is to advance on that, but never forget the morals of my roots, peasantry. As for sons and daughters of slaves, its over, your not a slave, and your slave ancestors are dead. you acheived equality in my eyes, and many others. what more matters. they acheived equal education and equal right, and equal pay, they dont need ancestrial slave money. In the words of Family guy, It doesn't matter if one is black or white, the only color that matters is green.

O_o???? what does your dad have to do with black people with slave ancestors in the U.S. getting repirations for the money not given out for labor?

[ssjharsh]

O_o???? what does your dad have to do with black people with slave ancestors in the U.S. getting repirations for the money not given out for labor?

I think his point is that why should he have to pay reparartions (which in addition to being "justice" for blacks, is also a form of punishment to nonblacks, for having to pay for the reparations), since he or his family (and me and my family, who moved from India) have to pay when they did nothing wrong?

[Darien Narumi]

Heh...

If this goes through, the White Nationalist fools won't be too happy.

[Tokoyami]

Heh...

If this goes through, the White Nationalist fools won't be too happy.

O_o????? yea i guess

About them beig punished with repirations, i dont kno how to deal with that, i geuss they would have to figure sumthing out.