Grimmjow v.s. Byakuya Kuchiki

[FullMetal Rebel]

Discuss

[Habanero]

Heh, Grimmjaw didn't even have to draw his sword to beat up bankai Ichigo. Same applies here :)

Grimm >>> Byakuya.

[Klavier Gavin]

Byakuya's senbonzakura can attack and defend. I'll say that Byakuya would take this.
Grimmjaw won't stand a chance fighting byakuya with his bare hands.

[Emperor Knives]

Grimmjow defeated Ichigo in Bankai form without even getting serious and Byakuya had a hard time with Ichigo in Bankai form. We haven't even seen a third of Grimmjow's power. He wins this one easily.

[jonat3]

^^ @ Hitsugaya10

You've got to be nuts. Not even kuroi getsuga could scratch Grimmjow. What makes you think senbonzakura will be able to? Speedwise, Grimmjow seems to be on bankai Ichigo's level as well. UNRELEASED Grimmjow is already at a level to slaughter Byakuya. He won't even need his release.

[Seff vi Britannia]

Byakuya's senbonzakura can attack and defend. I'll say that Byakuya would take this.
Grimmjaw won't stand a chance fighting byakuya with his bare hands.


^^Wrong thread mate. You need to be posting in here.
http://forums.bleachportal.net/showthread.php?t=18904



Anyway,
Unreleased Grimm > bankai Ichigo > Final Form bankai Byakuya...

Byakuya is owned in one hit :/

[h3h3h3]

lol I wonder who was the 2nd to vote for Byakuya, fanboyness strikes again.

[Kalashnikov]

LOL - Like most people have said, Grimmjow didnt even have to draw his zanpaktou to totally own Ichigo in Bankai form. What makes you think Byakuya will be any different?

[diamondedge]

Nothing, you are right here. Grimmjaw, hands down.

[silverwolf801]

grimmjaw kick byakuya around just like he did ichgo. plus grimmjow is faster than ichigo which means he is faster than byakuya which means someone is going to die fast

[suburbanhell]

While what everyone here is saying is true, Grimmjow did easily handle "Bankai Ichigo" -- but, you have to remember in those episodes, Ichigo was been a shell of his former self, hell he had trouble fighting a hollow that he would've blown to smithereens any other time. Byakuya could probably run circles around Ichigo in the state he was in when he met up with Grimmjow too, so, it's feasible that Byakuya's speed = Grimmjow's speed. Plus Senbonzakura has that whole "ultimate defense/ultimate offense" thing going for it in Bankai mode, so I think all in all it would be a relatively even matchup and not this "Grimmjow destroys and celebrates at Chuck E. Cheese" situation everyone is envisioning.

This isn't a fanboy thing as I kind of hate Byakuya, but the bastard can fight, and if memory serves one his powers of Bankai is to slow down his opponent, so it's feasible that if the battle lasted long enough he could eventually overtake Grimmjow's speed.

HOWEVER, we have not yet seen Grimmjow's released form, and that is probably going to be a difference maker...depending on what it is, anyway...

[Seff vi Britannia]

While what everyone here is saying is true, Grimmjow did easily handle "Bankai Ichigo" -- but, you have to remember in those episodes, Ichigo was been a shell of his former self, hell he had trouble fighting a hollow that he would've blown to smithereens any other time. Byakuya could probably run circles around Ichigo in the state he was in when he met up with Grimmjow too, so, it's feasible that Byakuya's speed = Grimmjow's speed. Plus Senbonzakura has that whole "ultimate defense/ultimate offense" thing going for it in Bankai mode, so I think all in all it would be a relatively even matchup and not this "Grimmjow destroys and celebrates at Chuck E. Cheese" situation everyone is envisioning.

This isn't a fanboy thing as I kind of hate Byakuya, but the bastard can fight, and if memory serves one his powers of Bankai is to slow down his opponent, so it's feasible that if the battle lasted long enough he could eventually overtake Grimmjow's speed.

HOWEVER, we have not yet seen Grimmjow's released form, and that is probably going to be a difference maker...depending on what it is, anyway...


Get back to the fanclub.

Byakuya is only just faster than shikai Ichigo, even if bankai Ichigo was having hollow problems, his speed still seemed to be at a level higher than that of the Byakuya fight.

Ultimate defense dosen't really help when the person can pierce it.

Grimmjow can beat seven kinds of shiznit out of Byakuya without drawing his sword.

Also, destructive power of KGT > that of SKY, Grimmy took a hit and only got a burn =/

[Undying]

Ultimate defense dosen't really help when the person can pierce it.
Ichigo can't pierce Senbonzakura's defense kthx.

Also, destructive power of KGT > that of SKY, Grimmy took a hit and only got a burn =/
True dat.

[suburbanhell]

LOL, well I won't be "getting back to the fanclub" anytime soon since I'm not a part of it, infact I didn't even say who I'd vote for, I just said it wouldn't be an easy win for Grimmy as everyone has expected.

[Esca]

Ichigo uses his Vaizard form + bankai and Grimmjaw had one arm. If he did that against Byakuya, it would have been over. When he faced Grimmjaw, Ichigo would have been slaughtered had it not been for Shinji appearing. Grimmjaw wins, easily.

[Seff vi Britannia]

LOL, well I won't be "getting back to the fanclub" anytime soon since I'm not a part of it, infact I didn't even say who I'd vote for, I just said it wouldn't be an easy win for Grimmy as everyone has expected.

Yes, yes it really would. Grimm would have his hand through Prettyboys stomach before he could say bankai. Literally.

[Polygon]

As we last saw him, Byakuya gets Grimmjow's penis inserted into his anus.

[Seff vi Britannia]

As we last saw him, Byakuya gets Grimmjow's penis inserted into his anus.

QFT. Can we get a close on this thread?

[T_Ichigo]

I say Grimmjow, don't feel like arguing though, mostly because I bet Espadas are stronger than the most of SS captains, inclusive Buyakuya, the captain who lost or fought equal to Ichigo.

As we last saw him, Byakuya gets Grimmjow's penis inserted into his anus.
I assume that you lost your mind when you wrote that, lmao

[koolspot]

Ichigo is weaker now that´s why Grimmjow seems so strong, but that´s not true... Hirako almost kill grimmjow without using shikai or bankai, just using his mask.

Why ichigo is weaker now. Compare the damage Ichigo did against Urahara shield before in the training, and the damage Yammy did to that shield... And yammy almost won that fight.

Ichigo was able to do severe damage to byakuya´s body before.... But byakuya could stand Ichigo and took and incredible Getsuga T. And after that he was strong enough to made the imperial sword.

And.... Grimmjow was almost completely killed by Ichigo in the manga when he put his mask on

Besides, Byakuya's abbilities with bankai, speed and kidou are very very good... So it's byakuya for me

[tempest24]

i'm pretty sure grimmjow can beat out byakuya easy... cuz he has speed and pwoer advantage, and i guess he also has the will to fight til the death he will kill without a thought and byakuya is an awesome captain and is tough as hell but i think most of that is a front cuz he is part of the royal family... but thats just my opinion, or maybe i'm wrong and byakuya's bankai than seikai is more than enough to take out grimmjow.... wait i take that back! maybe only in the soul society but in the real world.... grimmjow all the way...

[Seff vi Britannia]

Ichigo is weaker now that´s why Grimmjow seems so strong, but that´s not true... Hirako almost kill grimmjow without using shikai or bankai, just using his mask.
Why ichigo is weaker now. Compare the damage Ichigo did against Urahara shield before in the training, and the damage Yammy did to that shield... And yammy almost won that fight.
Ichigo was able to do severe damage to byakuya´s body before.... But byakuya could stand Ichigo and took and incredible Getsuga T. And after that he was strong enough to made the imperial sword.
And.... Grimmjow was almost completely killed by Ichigo in the manga when he put his mask on
Besides, Byakuya's abbilities with bankai, speed and kidou are very very good... So it's byakuya for me

Mate, you're in the wrong thread. You need to be here.

http://forums.bleachportal.net/showthread.php?t=18904


Ichigo was weaker during the Byakuya fight because of his bankai breaking, and weaker with yammy because of ogichi.

And i hardly call going from nearly full health to exhausted and heavily damaged "ok". Byakuyas WIS was his final attack. And he got pwned. =].

If Ichigo's KGT can't cut Grimmjow's skin, what makes you think SKY can?

:whatevah:


Speed: Grimmjow is fast enough to keep up with/outpace bankai Ichigo.
Grimmjow.
Power: Obvious,
Grimmjow.
"Kidou" Byakuya has binding spells that couldn't hold Renji for long. Grimm has cero.
Grimmjow.

O btw. Grimm has release form.

[Decado]

Grimmjow..

power evaluation from Byakuya vs Ichigo fight?
Grimmjow.

Even if Byakuya somehow has gotten stronger, it doesn't compare to the rise from Bankai Ichigo -> Vaizard

SOMEHOW even if it did, Grimmjow has his release.

Hirako almost kill grimmjow without using shikai or bankai, just using his mask.
/me sighs

Another one..

Firstly, Grimmjow had ONE arm. He was ALREADY severely DAMAGED from a BANKAI+VAIZARD Ichigo attack.

Not only taht, he held off Shinji's CERO (and shinji WAS NOT injured at ALL) with his OWN - and he was already bloodied and bruised. Oh did I mention he wasn't even released?

[Undying]

Lmao.

Byakuya?

Yeah as if.

I don't need to say much about Ichigo.

So I'll just say about Hirako.

He didn't "almost kill Grimmjow without shikai or bankai". He just damaged Grimmjow enough (AFTER Grimmjow was already damaged by Ichigo) to make him want to release.

[sweeter]

Grimmjow will completely and undoubtedly win.

Bankai Ichigo is faster than Byakuya/Senbonzakura Kageyoshi (Ch. 163).
Grimmjow was able to match Bankai Ichigo's speed (Ch. 211).
Grimmjow is faster than Byakuya/Senbonzakura Kageyoshi.

Shikai Ichigo took a concentrated Senbonzakura Kageyoshi and survived (Ch. 161, p. 18).
Grimmjow has Ierro (Ch. 195, p. 3).
Grimmjow can take a concentrated Senbonzakura Kageyoshi, in the low probability that it will be able to catch him.

Icing on the cake, we have yet to see Grimmjow's release.

I love this thread.

(:

[Polygon]

This thread has no buisness being alive.

Seriously, why isn't it destroyed yet?

[Undying]

*points to 6 votes for Byakuya in the poll*

So that those who voted like that can come here and we can pwn them.

[Seff vi Britannia]

*points to 6 votes for Byakuya in the poll*

So that those who voted like that can come here and we can pwn them.

:biggrinlo


Yeah...
they can be like
"Madness!? This is the fanclub!"
all they want, but the persians won in the end =]

[Zanga]

Byakuya will win. He has uber petals of death.


I'm telling you.

[h3h3h3]

^I agree completely the petals are just so deadly and beautiful.

[Seff vi Britannia]

^ Yet, so useless.

=]

[Lust]

Byakuya will win. He has uber petals of death.
I'm telling you.
if he got a hollow mask like ichigo i think he will win but for now...GRIIMMMY will win:)

[Seff vi Britannia]

Erm, no.

If vaizard byakuya got the same power boost as vaizard ichigo, then vaizard ichigo > vaizard byakuya because bankai Ichigo > Shuukei byakuya.

Vaizard ichigo was a lot stronger than Grimmjow, however, the mask has a time limit. Let's just assume Byakuya had a longer mask time than Ichigo. Grimmjow has release.

=]

[silverwolf801]

when was vaizard ichigo stronger than grimmjow. Remember the man had one hand. ANd he still managed not to release

[Seff vi Britannia]

One hand or not dosen't affect your speed (Okay, it would in real life, but not in Bleach, as they don't pump their hands while moving at high-speed.) , nor your reiatsu, in fact, it would only affect your balance and fighting skills.

Vaizard Ichigo outpaced Grimmjow and inflicted damage to his hierro. Read the fight again, the winner was clear until the mask broke.

Vaizard Ichigo > Unreleased Grimmjow.

So if we assume Vaizard Byakuya = Unreleased Grimmjow, because Vaizard byakuya would be weaker than vaizard Ichigo if the power boost is constant, then released Grimmjow > Vaizard Byakuya.

I was agreeing with you, anyway. Grimmjow > Byakuya with both hands tied behind his back.

[sweeter]

Vaizard Ichigo > Unreleased Grimmjow

I think 11-second Vaizard Ichigo was going to lose to unreleased Grimmjow. Now, if it was 60-second Vaizard Ichigo...

In addition, I would like to passionately state that Byakuya's uber hax petals of doom will not be even remotely deadly to Grimmjow. *****, please.

(:

[Unrefined-Nemesis]

I see a lot of Grimmjaw fanboys here in this thread as well as Kuchiki Byakuya's as well. I'll try too give an unbiased view on this since I feel that most views here are all biased in a way or too.

First off Ichigo can for now handle his mask 11 seconds which failed to kill or own Grimmjaw at all basically tickling him thats all.

Ichigo won by a fluke when fighting Byakuya in SS, Imagine if all the senkei attacked at one time, Ichigo would be filled with holes right now.

Bankai Kuchiki Byakuya (Senkei) Vs Grimmjaw

This battle would be a tough one seeing that Grimmjaw is as fast as Ichigo Bankai even when unreleased.

If Byakuya is too win (conditions)
-Use his senkei to cage down Grimm just like he did to ichigo in SS before using that demon art called white lightning
-After caging him down, pokes loads of holes in Grimm and spam unchantted spells
-Grimm gets owned
-This is if Grimm is unreleashed, released would be a different story but since we do not know that then it will remain unknown

Grimm to win (conditions):
-Prevent getting pinned down by senkei
-Spam Cero or Bala
-Release his form

There its unbiased.

[silverwolf801]

do you actually think that byakuya can pin grimmjow down with senkei. DO you actually think that it will be that easy please

[h3h3h3]

I don't see why are you leanin' on Byakuya I see sarcasm and I see Total Idiots.com Grimmjow>>>>>>>>>>Byakuya there's no other way.

[sweeter]

-Use his senkei to cage down Grimm just like he did to ichigo in SS before using that demon art called white lightning
-After caging him down, pokes loads of holes in Grimm and spam unchantted spells

Bankai Ichigo's blade is around Senkei Byakuya's in cutting power (Ch. 164, p. 19).

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w189/xsweeterthanchocolatex/manga-rainbleach-ch164-19.jpg

Grimmjow, using his bare (well, Hierro'd) hands, hurled Bankai Ichigo's blade away like it was nothing (Ch. 211, p. 5-6).

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w189/xsweeterthanchocolatex/untitled.jpg

Bankai Ichigo was also able to match Byakuya in a sword fight (Ch. 165).

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w189/xsweeterthanchocolatex/manga-rainbleach-ch165-03.jpg

Ichigo's sword skills were barely able to touch Grimmjow (Ch. 211, p. 9-10).

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w189/xsweeterthanchocolatex/untitled2.jpg

Unreleased Grimmjow is more than a match for Byakuya. Even hardcore Byakuya fans would have to agree.

-Grimm gets owned

NEVVVVVAAAAAR!

(At least, not by Byakuya. Tch.)

There its unbiased.

I do admit I am hopelessly biased toward Grimmjow. Yet, it wouldn't change the fact that Grimmjow > Byakuya, because the power gap between the two is too great.

(:

[Seff vi Britannia]

Nyah, unreleased Grimmjow would have died if Vichigo had no time limit. That's all i can say xD

Vichigo > unreleased Grimm. I don't think there is any argument here ^__^

[soul eater]

OMG everybnody calm down .... Byakuya would win end it with that :P .... cuz ichigo was way weakwe whan he faught grimjow ... so we dont have a proper comparison :P but Byakuya is cooler soo :P he would win ... lol

[sweeter]

Nyah, unreleased Grimmjow would have died if Vichigo had no time limit. That's all i can say xD

But he had the limit, didn't he? Vichigo is only 11-seconds, that's just it.

11-second Vichigo > Grimmjow? I don't think so.

(:

[silverwolf801]

look people this is not about if ichigo had no time limit against grimmjow this is about who would in grimmjow or byakuya. That's it

[jonat3]

Easily Grimmjow. Bankai ichigo was getting his ass kicked against an UNRELEASED Grimmjow. And he managed that even when he had one arm.

[sweeter]

look people this is not about if ichigo had no time limit against grimmjow this is about who would in grimmjow or byakuya. That's it

I'm terribly sorry for going off-topic.

(:

[Lust]

OMG everybnody calm down .... Byakuya would win end it with that :P .... cuz ichigo was way weakwe whan he faught grimjow ... so we dont have a proper comparison :P but Byakuya is cooler soo :P he would win ... lol
and you must be kidding,ichigo are MUCH more weaker when he fought with byakuya,grim >>>> byakuya

[Zanga]

Is that a joke?

Grimmy would make swiss cheese out of Byakuya. Byakuya wouldn't even come close to putting up a fight let alone win.

[erika]

well i guess you guys have a point with the grimmjow and byakuya battle but then i think byakuya is smarter than grimmjow.. he only uses power alone...

[h3h3h3]

^No I don't think Byakuya is more intellect than Grimmjow especially if he was Vast Lord

[Lust]

since when grimmy is a vast lord..?

[h3h3h3]

^As I stated ''Specially if'', learn to read.

[Lust]

learn to type...
especially if he was Vast Lord

[h3h3h3]

That's completely right and understandable you just can't read.

[Seff vi Britannia]

Erm, i don't think we have a direct comparison between Grimmys and Byakuyas intelligence.

[h3h3h3]

We can't but we can take guesses :).

[Zanga]

Byakuya has the intelliect of a normal person, he's no genius.

And power alone is all Grimm needs to break Senbonzakura Kageyoshi.


Don't even get me started if Grimm releases for fun.

[Lirion]

Unless Bya got a Hollow mask stashed somewhere I don't see him wining at the power level we have seen him.

He could have grown stronger, I still think that people who thinks SS captains haven't trained and gotten stronger while the newbcrew of Ichigo have is a fool or can't really accept that SS is getting stronger.

But the Bya we know have no chance in hell against Grim.

[Undying]

Meh, time to end this. We all know Grimmjow wins.

Bye bye thread.