An article about Muslims

[bleach_4_ever]

It really pisses me off (being a muslima and all) when people group me with terrorists and the likes. Just because we have the same religion doesn't mean I belive what he belives in. He just uses Islam to do whatever he wants and by doing so, creates false ideas that ALL Muslims are like that. However, this reporter got his story straight. So I thought it was something you should check out http://www.lewrockwell.com/reese/reese5.html

[Evanesque]

I agree...I'm a Muslim too but I don't understand why many countries associate us with terrorism AND I also don't get why those people do a whole load of crap under Islam's name.

One big example not related to terrorism but women in particular is in Saudi Arabia. I heard (I'm not sure) women aren't really allowed to do a lot of things such as driving saying it says so in the Quran.

There are many extremists who are poisoning their own minds and hallucinating. How dare they use the name of our religion and do whatever they want. Islam is a religion of peace. We don't fight! We don't believe in depriving women!

As a matter of fact, the Quran says certain things to protect women! That is why they tell us to cover up, avoid many things, why? To protect our morals and to be safe.

Unfortunately many people think of this as a rope tying them away from the rest of the world so they see it as unfair...

Wow, i can go on and on ...>_>
But any senseless criticism about my religion pisses me off.

[Kalashnikov]

I think this man should be made the president of the united states of america. The world would be a much better place if more people like him were around.

People shouldnt associate Islam with terrorism. I wouldnt really call a terrorist a muslim. There is no section in the Quran that says terrorising others is something a muslim can do.

[Haskabab]

I think you people should stop complaining and start these discussions, they're endless and what does it proof or how does it help you?

Just stop provoking these useless discussions.

I think this man should be made the president of the united states of america. The world would be a much better place if more people like him were around.

People shouldnt associate Islam with terrorism. I wouldnt really call a terrorist a muslim. There is no section in the Quran that says terrorising others is something a muslim can do.

It's true that people shouldn't associate islam with terrorism, but i don't think it's weird either..
Alot of terrorists ARE muslim, so it's quit understandable that people associate muslims with terrorists. Not that they're right.

[Kalashnikov]

Yeah but thats the thing, just because some terrorists are muslim - it doesnt mean that a muslim is automatically a terrorist.

[Haskabab]

That's 100% true, but it's an endless discussion, so why should we have it? ^^

[VinScythe]

The article is only pointing out the basic facts.

Face it. EVERYONE is good until you challenge them, who'll remain good then?
Now that would make a hell of a read.

[Monkey_man]

I know it sounds stupid but what do Muslims universally believe like all Christan's believe in Jesus and god

[davidn15]

I know it sounds stupid but what do Muslims universally believe like all Christan's believe in Jesus and god


Judaism, Christianity, and Islam believe in the same god. In Islam Jesus I think is supposed to be a prophet or something.

Yeah but thats the thing, just because some terrorists are muslim - it doesnt mean that a muslim is automatically a terrorist.


Yeah I know, I have a friend who's muslim and I don't think she's someone you would even consider even close to a terrorist

[Kalashnikov]

I know it sounds stupid but what do Muslims universally believe like all Christan's believe in Jesus and god

Yeah, muslims believe in the same god as christians and like davidn15 said we also believe in Jesus as one of the prophets.

[Yuffie]

People believe such nonsense because they are ignorant of the facts. The oldest Christian communities in the world are in Muslim countries. Some of the oldest Jewish communities in the world are in Muslim countries. The deputy foreign minister of Iraq is a Christian. Saddam Hussein donated $1 million to help build a Christian church in the United States. There are Christians in practically all Muslim countries, and there have been for centuries. I've said all this before, but when lies blow strong, truth bears repeating.

That's racism!! How can they say that about Muslims, I feel hurted. ;;_______;; Being a Muslim and all.

Judaism, Christianity, and Islam believe in the same god. In Islam Jesus I think is supposed to be a prophet or something.

Yea. We believe that Jesus is our prophet. Although he isn't. :/ Islam believe that we won't see our God. We believe that God is no human, and he's not LIKE a human, I mean with two eyes or two feet.

Yeah but thats the thing, just because some terrorists are muslim - it doesnt mean that a muslim is automatically a terrorist.

Not all. I'm not a terrorist - -;

[Kalashnikov]

Not all. I'm not a terrorist - -;

Thats exactly what im saying. You're not a terrorist, I'm not a terrorist. Yet people have still called me a terrorist in the past, it's just so hard to ignore such ignorant people.

[Guy]

It's certainly very childish and stupid to group all people as a few individuals. So what if Al Qaeda's followers are Islamic? That does NOT mean all Muslims are terrorists. I hate it when people do that, just like I hate it when people say Christians are all evil like the Catholic church, or when people say all Germans are Nazis, or when they say all Chinese are goddamn Communists. I really hate it.

And props to the smart man in that article.

[bleach_4_ever]

I think you people should stop complaining and start these discussions, they're endless and what does it proof or how does it help
It helps because, as it said in the article, some media/propaganda is/are very one sided and biased. Thus, making people belive what they belive in. That's why I just wanted to point out that what they say is NOT true and they are just some racists that want to impose they're point of view. So am imposing mine. Some people may not know that. And, I didn't do this to start a discussion. I started this to educate those who do not know.

[Guy]

It helps because, as it said in the article, some media/propaganda is/are very one sided and biased. Thus, making people belive what they belive in. That's why I just wanted to point out that what they say is NOT true and they are just some racists that want to impose they're point of view. So am imposing mine. Some people may not know that. And, I didn't do this to start a discussion. I started this to educate those who do not know.

Although I agree that it is stupid and childish to assume all Muslims are terrorists, to be frank, the link that you provided is kind of like a propaganda itself. It talks about why Muslims are good. However, that's not a bad thing, just pointing it out, and I do agree with you.

[Domhnall]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So what that article is trying to tell me is that not all muslims are terrorists? In fact it's an extreme (in more ways than one) minority that are terrorists and the vast majority are good, decent people?

Well who'd have thunk that!?

Next you're going to tell me the deep South of the USA isn't solely populated by hillbillies and that not everyone in Greenock is a junkie!

*cough*

Yeah...Didn't everyone except the most idiotic of idiotic neds (or chavs, if you prefer) know that about muslims?

[Miyagi Rikku]

My dad actually practices Muslim religion. He was once married to a Muslim woman.I mean, I am a Christian and my mom as well but even though my step-dad practices Muslim we do not really disapprove of that.

I also came from a country that have Muslim religion (Philippines) I met alot of
people who were Muslims as well still I do not recall me calling them terrorists.
They are just humans as well who believes in the same God that we believe in.
Narrow minded people I suppose that is what they really are.


Not all. I'm not a terrorist - -;

Thats exactly what im saying. You're not a terrorist, I'm not a terrorist. Yet people have still called me a terrorist in the past, it's just so hard to ignore such ignorant people.

Yes, very true.

In my opinion just because someone has been branded as a terrorist
does not mean everyone acts the same way. They might believe in
the same Religion or beliefs but does not mean they are the same
as the others.

Now let us say that some Americans got branded as terrorist and that
you are an American yourself and everyone thinks that you are now a
terrorist how would you feel about right now?

I bet that you would feel as if like you are not even given a chance to
show people who you really are and that therefore that feeling is really
hurtful.

Also, a fact. I do not mean to be a racist and all but yeah here it comes.
American people used to dislike Africa-American people then they started
to dislike Mexicans then now Muslims. I just noticed that I mean it got
me thinking really. I do not mean to be offensive an all to the americans
but it is just my point of view.

[Zanga]

I'm not muslim, but I've been called a terrorist. They're not really big, but a group called the Tamil tigers in Sri Lanka, who are actually freedom fighters, are classified as terrorists.

So basically, because you are tamil, you are suspected of being a part of the organization. In some places of Canada, the government has been pulling random citizens, interrogating them trying to find out if they are/were/know of tamil tigers members.

So i've been classified as a terrorist in my school and have gotten into some fights cause of that.

[Miyagi Rikku]

Zanga, I am so sorry to hear that. Wow, I mean just wow. People just became down right
stupid already these days huh. >__>

[Evanesque]

True miya..

I think this thread should be moved to the lounge. Why is it hiding in a place like this? =S

[Kalashnikov]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So what that article is trying to tell me is that not all muslims are terrorists? In fact it's an extreme (in more ways than one) minority that are terrorists and the vast majority are good, decent people?

Well who'd have thunk that!?

Next you're going to tell me the deep South of the USA isn't solely populated by hillbillies and that not everyone in Greenock is a junkie!

*cough*

Yeah...Didn't everyone except the most idiotic of idiotic neds (or chavs, if you prefer) know that about muslims?
Well we are trying to get that into the heads of the most idiotic of idiotic neds as you call them.

I'm not muslim, but I've been called a terrorist. They're not really big, but a group called the Tamil tigers in Sri Lanka, who are actually freedom fighters, are classified as terrorists.

So basically, because you are tamil, you are suspected of being a part of the organization. In some places of Canada, the government has been pulling random citizens, interrogating them trying to find out if they are/were/know of tamil tigers members.

So i've been classified as a terrorist in my school and have gotten into some fights cause of that.

I know what you mean, i also have a couple of tamil friends and most of them have been through that. Being called a terrorist isnt the nicest of things, especially when you know what kind of things terrorists actually do.
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i agree this thread should be moved somewhere where more people can see it.

[Achilles]

I'm a Muslim and I live in Turkey. as u know Turkey is a %98 Muslim country.
we r fighting against some terrorists for nearly 25 years. they say they're Muslim but because of that monsters, our soldiers are dying every year and many mothers are crying. How can a person who calles him/herself Muslim can kill another Muslim? I don't really get that. also like u ppl said, because of that monsters, world know us as also terrorists. that's very wrong.

[Domhnall]

Well we are trying to get that into the heads of the most idiotic of idiotic neds as you call them.

Ah, yes but you see they don't come here. They go to forums like these:

http://www.tightrope.cc/forum/index.php

Or a anti-muslim equivelant to that anti-black site. Actually it may be anti-everythingnotwhite. I can't say I stayed there for too long. Fundie forums are far more entertaining.

Basically this thread has been, and will most likely continue to be

'Yeah, it's right!'

'Not all muslims are terrorists!'

'It makes me sad when people say that!'

'Yeah, because it's wrong!'

'Yeppers! Good article!'

'I'm so glad the obvious has been shown!'

'Most muslims are nice!'

'Not all muslims are terrorists!'

People shouldnt associate Islam with terrorism. I wouldnt really call a terrorist a muslim. There is no section in the Quran that says terrorising others is something a muslim can do.

People associate the acts undertaken by Islamic terrorists with the muslim religion. No prizes for guessing why.

I'm yet to come across someone who associates non-islamic terrorists (e.g. the IRA) with islam.

agree...I'm a Muslim too but I don't understand why many countries associate us with terrorism AND I also don't get why those people do a whole load of crap under Islam's name.


See you know the answer. It's because "people do a whole load of crap under Islam's name."

Twin Towers Plane Bombings

London Transport Bombings

Madrid Train Bombings

Islamic extremists where in the majority in all those terrorist attacks. Then there's the terrorist group Hamas gaining a majority in the Palistinian (sp?) parliament.

That's why the modern day image of a terrorist is an islamic extremist, well, it is where I'm from anyway.

But any sensible person knows that the muslims are not terrorists. It's just that the most prominant terrorist groups are islamic.

Anyway, I'm with Haskabab (minus the " ^^ ")

That's 100% true, but it's an endless discussion, so why should we have it?

[bleach_4_ever]

Although I agree that it is stupid and childish to assume all Muslims are terrorists, to be frank, the link that you provided is kind of like a propaganda itself. It talks about why Muslims are good. However, that's not a bad thing, just pointing it out, and I do agree with you.

Although I can't say I meant that but, doesn't that prove a point? Like, the one sided propaganda mentioned in the article expressed they're ideas about muslims and terrorists. This author does the same thing, he just expressed his ideas about the subject.

Basically this thread has been, and will most likely continue to be

'Yeah, it's right!'

'Not all muslims are terrorists!'

'It makes me sad when people say that!'

'Yeah, because it's wrong!'

'Yeppers! Good article!'

'I'm so glad the obvious has been shown!'

'Most muslims are nice!'

'Not all muslims are terrorists!'


Even though you call those who don't know this "idiotic of idiotic neds ", some people are affected by the media, for instance. Ask an American who is affected by the media a good thing they think about islam, he's gonna tell you a few if at ALL. Now ask them a bad thing about islam he's gonna give you a list til tommorow (not all ofcourse and not the majority either). What am trying to say is, some people are affected by the media. I just want them to see the other side of Islam, not the terrorists and the things the media wants you to see.

[Ichigo NR]

..Im A Muslim ... And ... Im From Indonesia ...
Did You Know.. That Indonesia is the Country With The Most Muslims People..
But Not All Moslems are Terorist ... That's Abosultely WRONG !!

[aloy]

...I'ts all in the media...they're the one labelling muslim as terorist. When the people of an islamic country defends their country from intruder..they were called terorist. I'm also sick n tired of people (including muslims ruler ect) labelling some muslims as liberal muslims..fundamentalist muslims and so on.

[daisuKi]

i can say, each religion has its good and bad, so i cannot agree more to this, but i can also say, this discussion is not a bad one as it gives everyone a chance to voice out their feelings, but excluding racism. human rights are to everyone, for everyone, but not to be abused, agree? ^^ cheers~

[..::Mr 999::..]

I think this man should be made the president of the united states of america. The world would be a much better place if more people like him were around.

People shouldnt associate Islam with terrorism. I wouldnt really call a terrorist a muslim. There is no section in the Quran that says terrorising others is something a muslim can do.


i agree with this post.

If all people like him, this world will be free....