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Kenpachi-Dono
06-15-2007, 09:29 AM
Do u still have yours? not physically..of coarse u have it if ur alive...but more of a mental and emotional thing..do u feel that u have a heart? i don't..i think mine has been swallowed up by all the things that have happened in my life...like i'm just a hollow shell(no pun intended)

Icestorm
06-15-2007, 09:40 AM
oH nOes me heaRT is GONZORS...

thats emo talk right there.

Kenpachi-Dono
06-15-2007, 09:42 AM
emo or elmo? lol

Icestorm
06-15-2007, 09:46 AM
Emo... who the hell considers themselves without a 'heart' that isnt emotionally crippled. Regardless of what happens to you, you can always get up and try again without 'losing your heart' .. The only time ill accept that you lost your heart is if I rip it from your chest.

Xkavanger
06-15-2007, 09:47 AM
ROFL Ice

Well Kenpachi-dono-san :P
I say I have a heart.. I feel it
It flutters when in love
and skips a beat when in shock
It hurts and feels hollow when hurt
and it is heavy when burdened

My heart consists of two colours
black and red

Black covers that of 85% of my heart
and the rest is red

It was recently 92% black
The red is starting to envelope the darkness that it was there

Currently... the 85% blackness in my heart is sort of missing something and I can't find it




So yes, I have a heart... and I will always feel it there =)

Donut
06-15-2007, 09:50 AM
Oh, my f*cking god.

Just not to be offtopic; Yes, along with all other people who aren't psychopaths, I have emotions, dipshit.

SoundWave
06-15-2007, 09:52 AM
Do u still have yours? not physically..of coarse u have it if ur alive...but more of a mental and emotional thing..do u feel that u have a heart? i don't..i think mine has been swallowed up by all the things that have happened in my life...like i'm just a hollow shell(no pun intended)
haha just by saying that you seem over emotional..

Dun pity yourself.. why? because it's only gonna make things worse!

Edit: okay.. just in case no one noticed.. ofc I do have a heart..!

Icestorm
06-15-2007, 09:54 AM
Indeed.. people that get stuck in their past end up living with it for a long time.. tying themselves into some sort of crappy ball of emotions.. which is pretty easy to avoid if you dont go all anti self belief and try again. People who think they aint got a heart must consider their own life pretty cheap.

Kenpachi-Dono
06-15-2007, 09:56 AM
lol i'm just stating why i don't have a heart..no sob story..no pity post..just stating the main reason why i think that way..i don't have feeling..no emotion..don't care for anything other than my existence..my heart was ripped out once and it stayed there..but this isn't just about me this about everyone

Donut
06-15-2007, 09:58 AM
Wtf? See, you're whining right there! Please stop.

Kenpachi-Dono
06-15-2007, 09:59 AM
how am i whining? u have to care to whine

Icestorm
06-15-2007, 10:00 AM
Everyone? Do you see me thinking I dont have a heart after everything that happens to me.. regardless of what happens to you, its worthless to pity yourself and not go on enjoying life.

Evanesque
06-15-2007, 10:02 AM
By the heart thing, I think ken means that he feels completely empty and hollow...like he doesn't have feelings for anything anymore...

Yesh that's so emo talk...X3

I used to be like that before but I'm not like that any more ^^;
There's no point in wasting your life bawling and whining about how miserable your life is...just move on.

It's really easy! X3

Icestorm
06-15-2007, 10:03 AM
Yeah I knew what he was talking about.



But exactly... Ya summed it up perfectly.

Kenpachi-Dono
06-15-2007, 10:04 AM
don't get me wrong..i don't sit around daily like "oh my life sucks blah blah blah" no i never say that...but i just don't have any type of feelings any more..none..and ice when i say this is for everybody...i mean for everybody to say whether or not they have a heart anymore or not

Donut
06-15-2007, 10:06 AM
lol i'm just stating why i don't have a heart..no sob story..no pity post..just stating the main reason why i think that way..i don't have feeling..no emotion..don't care for anything other than my existence..my heart was ripped out once and it stayed there..but this isn't just about me this about everyone

Bold seems like whining to me.

Also feeling hollow is an emotion too.

Icestorm
06-15-2007, 10:06 AM
What im meaning is that not many people think like you do.. even the people who have things happen to them.. I can count myself as one.. but ya know.. you dont see me saying I dont have a heart.. do ya?

If ya going to put all your energy into not caring about things.. put it into not caring about what happened to you.. rather than life itself.

Kenpachi-Dono
06-15-2007, 10:07 AM
Bold seems like whining to me.
looks can be deceiving :)

Kenpachi-Dono
06-15-2007, 10:09 AM
What im meaning is that not many people think like you do.. even the people who have things happen to them.. I can count myself as one.. but ya know.. you dont see me saying I dont have a heart.. do ya?

If ya going to put all your energy into not caring about things.. put it into not caring about what happened to you.. rather than life itself.
voicing it is my release..and i don't hate life..i don't hate anything at all..lol i'm not some suicidal guy that sits in all black in a dark room 24 hours a day..i go out and do things but i get no pleasure from those things..i'm just stating i have no feelings...true i could have used a better way to describe it rather than saying i have no heart but that's just the way i express it

Icestorm
06-15-2007, 10:13 AM
Its all about the way you look at things now is isnt it? I mean.. you can choose to view things in a postive or negative way.. I dont really see an inbetween so obviously your viewing things in a negative way.. Which means you gotta change the way you think about things and what way you look at your life.. Routine can be one of those things.. routine sucks..

Kenpachi-Dono
06-15-2007, 10:16 AM
i'm kinda like in the middle...i don't have a negative outlook on things but i don't have a positive outlook on things..it's sorta like blah..that's the best way i can describe it..i'm not one of those "the world is against me" type of people but at the same time i'm not a "i'll always have somebody to help me"..egh u get what i'm saying right because i'm running out of ways to describe it :D

Icestorm
06-15-2007, 10:18 AM
no.. there is no middle. If you look at things like that its a negative.. no emotions towards things is bad, which = negative view. Even if you have the smallest discotent or the smallest hope its either postive or negative.

Evanesque
06-15-2007, 10:18 AM
Ken, I think you're saying a lot of things that just seems like you're whining. Aren't you the one who's caring enough to make a thread about how you feel and sharing it with everyone? Hm?

Sure, you feel disturbed and troubled by what's happened but doing this isn't going to make things better.

You just feel like you can't get yourself to care about anything right now. Am I right? You don't have to be emo, suicidal, etc etc to feel like that. Everyone feels like that at some point in their lives.

Discussing about it and just sitting in this zone won't make things any better for you. Keep yourself busy with something. Revive your interests and activities. Sooner or later you're going to look back at this thread and be like 'wtf was I talking about?'

Icestorm
06-15-2007, 10:21 AM
Indeed.. as I said what your going through is easily saved.. start with small things that interested you and go on from there.. set goals etc. But your thinking is negative..

Kenpachi-Dono
06-15-2007, 10:22 AM
i'm not trying to make things better. I'm actually content with the way i am now. Not complaining at all..this was actually just a discussion thread to see how the rest of you were but it got a little off topic :D

on another note..ur avy is sickeningly hot

Kenpachi-Dono
06-15-2007, 10:24 AM
but it is a little refreshing to see people actually giving suggestions on how to make things better..if they had a Ichimaru Gin smilie i'd post it

Icestorm
06-15-2007, 10:25 AM
ok therfore my conclusion is that you are an emo. Simply you dont care and you like it like that. meaning you choose to be like that and get stuck in your past. Thats fine then but know this.. I hate emo's.

Kenpachi-Dono
06-15-2007, 10:27 AM
lol you're the first person to ever call me a emo..it feels weird :cussing:

deto
06-15-2007, 10:28 AM
reading this makes me wanna cut myself.... :x

Kenpachi-Dono
06-15-2007, 10:30 AM
that's no fun..then u'll be a emo

Chepakazol
06-15-2007, 10:32 AM
Speaking emotionaly, I have 7. 2 of which died. Cool huh?

Kenpachi-Dono
06-15-2007, 10:32 AM
que?

deto
06-15-2007, 10:33 AM
i don't like the expression "emo" because it basicly says nothing.
everyone is emotional to a certain extent, i'd like to call them "nuts" tho :D

Kenpachi-Dono
06-15-2007, 10:37 AM
cool i'm nuts..just call me planters :D

Evanesque
06-15-2007, 10:37 AM
That's di for ya XD *whacks*

Well I don't know..this thread is easy to confuse with emoness. This discussion was bound to be misunderstood.


on another note..ur avy is sickeningly hot

Are you talking about mine? @_@

Kenpachi-Dono
06-15-2007, 10:38 AM
of coarse i love it

Xkavanger
06-15-2007, 10:41 AM
Indeed.. people that get stuck in their past end up living with it for a long time.. tying themselves into some sort of crappy ball of emotions.. which is pretty easy to avoid if you dont go all anti self belief and try again. People who think they aint got a heart must consider their own life pretty cheap.

ROFL... how about Emo for the future? :P
Like... that's how I am... who cares about the past...
you're right... you can't cling to it haha
and what I meant about by Emo about the future is by saying that... End of year exams are coming up... it's not as far away as you think anbd I'm emo... coz I'm sure that I wont be getting a high ENTER :<

HAHAHAHAHAH nvm... not emo no more >_>;

and @ everyone else:
Emo IS a word
How?
Its just a shorter way of saying "emotional" that's how it works =)

deto
06-15-2007, 10:41 AM
i would have chosen other words tho :D

Kenpachi-Dono
06-15-2007, 10:42 AM
like nuts :D

SoundWave
06-15-2007, 10:43 AM
i don't like the expression "emo" because it basicly says nothing.
everyone is emotional to a certain extent, i'd like to call them "nuts" tho :D
I'd like to call 'em "buttseckers".. mhmm..

Just blame it on the weather dood.. just blame it on the weather..

Kenpachi-Dono
06-15-2007, 10:45 AM
well it is cloudy with a high chance of rain..real drowsy weather

Lust
06-15-2007, 10:48 AM
i have no heart :(

Kenpachi-Dono
06-15-2007, 10:49 AM
i knew i wasn't the only one :D

Artemis
06-15-2007, 10:55 AM
ladies and gentlemen, let's not spam here.

remember, try to keep on topic and let's not just do one-liners.
I'm not a mod, i just thought i might as well say it before an actual mod does.

anyway, I have a heart. Hence the reason why I feel sad, happy, lost, found, empty, full and such.

You all have hearts. They're just gone missing.
Let's try to find them, okay?

Lust
06-15-2007, 11:11 AM
mine's has been shatter and broken into piece....i have hard time or nil to find it and put it back together...

deto
06-15-2007, 11:13 AM
claiming to not feel anything is utter BS, in my oponion. soooo what do we reckon? exactly, everyone does have a heart.

Kenpachi-Dono
06-15-2007, 11:15 AM
i forgot where i left mine at..there's no chance of finding it ever again..aye deto check ya profile i left a comment

Xkavanger
06-15-2007, 11:18 AM
noes... poor weather... but they're moods also o_O

"I feel sunny today"
"you're my sunshine"
"I'm stormy inside"

PSH >.>
sounds lame tho

deto
06-15-2007, 11:18 AM
i was just about to ask why, when my gaze fell upon your username :D
but i hardly have anything to say anyway :P

Kenpachi-Dono
06-15-2007, 11:19 AM
hahahahaha i hate when people say sappy things like that

"Oh she's my sunshine"

"He brings the light into my world"

in the words of the most famous hater ever "Bahumbug"

Kenpachi-Dono
06-15-2007, 11:20 AM
i was just about to ask why, when my gaze fell upon your username :D
but i hardly have anything to say anyway :P
every little bit helps..and besides since i read up on what the gotei 13 was on here i made it my personal goal to get into the 11th division

Icestorm
06-15-2007, 11:23 AM
ladies and gentlemen, let's not spam here.

remember, try to keep on topic and let's not just do one-liners.
I'm not a mod, i just thought i might as well say it before an actual mod does.




Your saying im NOT a mod? We are discussing this topic fine thanks.


@Di: ok instead of emo.. lets say.. Emotionally retarded. :)

@Kava: Rofl thats not being emo.. that being realistic and logical :D

@Kenpachi: The gotei squads here.. whilst themed as they are.. arnt really anything to do with the actual ones..

Kenpachi-Dono
06-15-2007, 11:24 AM
but i'm not emotionally retarded...can't we go with deto's suggestion and just say nuts?

deto
06-15-2007, 11:27 AM
@Di: ok instead of emo.. lets say.. Emotionally retarded. :)

I agrizzle, my nizzle!


whats so wrong about anyone being your sunshine? i bet everyone catched himself/herself saying something along those things. and personally i'd like to hear something like that from a person that means alot to me. furthermore i don't care if anyone calls that being a softie, cuz i know i could still beat 80% of those wannabe hardasses, the other 20% beat themselves without me doing anything. :redbiggri

Chepakazol
06-15-2007, 11:29 AM
@Di: ok instead of emo.. lets say.. Emotionally retarded. :)
No, I am emotionally retarded. Emos are a different case.

Now, to know that someone close to you died and to honestly feel happy for that person... Now THAT'S being mentally retarded ;)

Icestorm
06-15-2007, 11:31 AM
I said emotionally retarded >.>
Emo's are wannabe's. But I catergorize them the same as I hate them just as much.


@Deto: I agree with everything you say... Including the beating part.. :D

deto
06-15-2007, 11:32 AM
depends on your beliefs and the circumstances. if someone was in pain while slowly dying, death was a release so in a way you can be happy that the suffering wasn't extended in any way.

@ice, yah factorizer stated that around everything i say, thruth is forming... :D

Chepakazol
06-15-2007, 11:36 AM
depends on your beliefs and the circumstances. if someone was in pain while slowly dying, death was a release so in a way you can be happy that the suffering wasn't extended in any way.

@ice, yah factorizer stated that around everything i say, thruth is forming... :D
And what if I claim that I will be happy, regardless of the circumstances of death?

Xkavanger
06-15-2007, 11:36 AM
Kenpachi, don't double post =.=

@Ice: what is? >.>
The "you are my sunshine" crap? o_O

deto
06-15-2007, 11:43 AM
then your beliefs of whats it like after death are different or stronger


aint no crap no, yo!

Yamamoto
06-15-2007, 11:43 AM
I don't think it would be calssified as not having a hart..


...just...not reacting in things as much..

i get that a lot..

other people who have lots of experiences may notice some things not as, err 'moving'...

people who are logical thinkers also may think more and like feel less...

you just need experiences that other people have whe they say things like 'sunshine'

get out there, live and be spontaneous and treat yourself randomly- little by little it will help :)

pantiffel
06-15-2007, 11:58 AM
everybody has a heart ... even the most cruel person has a heart
I sometimes wish I don't have a heart so I couldn't feel pain or sadness but that would also mean I can't feel love so I would rather feel sadness and pain than not being able to love

Xkavanger
06-15-2007, 12:03 PM
I don't think it would be calssified as not having a hart..


...just...not reacting in things as much..

i get that a lot..

other people who have lots of experiences may notice some things not as, err 'moving'...

people who are logical thinkers also may think more and like feel less...

you just need experiences that other people have whe they say things like 'sunshine'

get out there, live and be spontaneous and treat yourself randomly- little by little it will help :)
I agree...
Like someone very very close to me passed away..
My sister bawled her eyes out, I took it much much differently :\
And no, I didn't cry.... that doesn't mean I have no heart
Like you said Viz, people take things differently

Yamamoto
06-15-2007, 12:19 PM
Yeah...same thing when my mom's mom passed away..


I was like really bummed when i just look like I had no feeling..

And was like 'I should be more sadder'...

but yeah, it depends on people's experiences


A doctor who's seen lots of deaths daily will take it differently from a six-year-old who doesn't know what death is

SoundWave
06-15-2007, 12:40 PM
"the kids of tomorrow don't need today, when they live in the sins of yesterday" summed up pretty nicely by Billy Talent.. (red flag) nuff' said..

Pie <3
06-15-2007, 12:58 PM
I'm chaotic neutral.

Paladyn_Rage
06-15-2007, 12:59 PM
C.I.A and KGB agents are considered heartless. Without any emotion, they're more efficient.

Pie <3
06-15-2007, 01:00 PM
Where'd you go?
I miss you so,
Seems like it's been forever,
That you've been gone.
Please come back home...

Miss M
06-15-2007, 01:04 PM
^ Pie has a heart... sometimes... ;)
lol :p

umm... yep... still have one... and I think all of us do...
well... unless you did something qrong and not regretting about it... :3
yer conscience is dead... :lol

*pocoyo gives cookies to the poor*
see??? :o

Silhouette
06-15-2007, 01:18 PM
A heart? I guess I can be rather cold and harsh sometimes. Would I say that I'm heartless? Well, er... I kinda say I am, but whatever. According to the above posters, I'm not.

Xkavanger
06-15-2007, 01:35 PM
Vizcious: O_O
That's the exact same situation I was in.. it was my mum's mum
and I reacted EXACTLY the same as you O_O
>.> freaky

Pie<3 : Fort Minor o-O
That song "Where'd you go" :p
Booyah!

SoundWave
06-15-2007, 01:39 PM
Yeah...same thing when my mom's mom passed away..


I was like really bummed when i just look like I had no feeling..

And was like 'I should be more sadder'...

but yeah, it depends on people's experiences


A doctor who's seen lots of deaths daily will take it differently from a six-year-old who doesn't know what death is
isn't that kinda normal.. at least for me.. O_o

Everyone's crying except me.. I'm just biting until my jaw cramps up.. always..

Yamamoto
06-15-2007, 01:41 PM
lmao kava...o.0

Freakii

*wooo weee yoooo*

^meant to be freaky sounds...

And haha yeah, I love that song :)


But yeah, that's the closest death experience in the family..my dad's mom pased when I was younger, i was kinda the same except less guilty of not being sad cause i was a kid and didn't know

Xkavanger
06-15-2007, 01:56 PM
^ ROFL.. the one that Rove sang? >.>
xD

and well you lost your nan when you were young... I lost my mum's mum,my mum's dad and my dad's mum.. all within 2-3 years
I eventually cried like an idiot at school when I heard my mum's mum died
well only coz my friends were being so supportive
It was sad coz... that day.. I was leaving to see her as she was really ill
:\
We missed seeing her by a day... it was overseas btw :\

Yamamoto
06-15-2007, 02:00 PM
Lol I meant where'd you go..


but I haven't heard that Rove song so yeah =/

To "heartless" people, does giving you hearts make you feel better? <3

SoundWave
06-15-2007, 02:06 PM
ohohoho.. let's shower them with tha heartz.. and pink magic!

<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<<3<3<3<3<3

anyways sry to hear that kava..

Hmm.. I'll let you know something.. At my first day of work.. somone died.. O.o.. Oh well he died happily and at his home, so I guess it's all good.. I didn't know him, I only saw the corpse when I got to their home.. after his wife had pressed the alarm button..

I've been at funerals .. relatives funerals too.. it ain't easy to cry.. not for me anyways..

Sono i Lupi
06-15-2007, 03:45 PM
Emo... who the hell considers themselves without a 'heart' that isnt emotionally crippled. Regardless of what happens to you, you can always get up and try again without 'losing your heart' .. The only time ill accept that you lost your heart is if I rip it from your chest.

like in Indiana Jones and the temple of doom
the guy was all like, WAAA!!!!! and pulled out the guys beating heart
and i was all like, omfgfgfgfgfg no waaayyyy

Silhouette
06-15-2007, 06:47 PM
Showering people with hearts? Gross, yeh, like covering the person in organs and blood'll cheer 'em up. Psh.

Pink is also lame... >.>

shaberry
06-15-2007, 07:41 PM
I only have a heart for the people I care about...

Guy
06-15-2007, 07:57 PM
I have a heart; I feel anger, depression, and hatred. That counts as being emotional and alive, right?

Paladyn_Rage
06-15-2007, 11:50 PM
Some people are saying that those feeling comes out of the brain, not heart. I heard that by using acupuncture on brain you may cause that the man will be crying, laugh or will be teriffied. Yet I think there's something more in that than just pure biology. Some would call it soul, spirit, other would call it "life energy" or even magic. I don't know exactly what is it, but im pretty sure that this is not pure biology...
So I think I've got that heart that you guys are talking about.

Silhouette
06-16-2007, 02:28 AM
Um, feelings don't come from the heart. Its all in the mind, aka brain. Some people don't say that, its the truth. Whoever started this "heart" nonsense, with the organ being shaped entirely wrong, was a dumbass.

Icestorm
06-16-2007, 02:34 AM
A misconception in the romance period in england/europe.

Harley Quinn
06-16-2007, 04:34 AM
I got heart, I'm practically bursting with heart.

Silhouette
06-16-2007, 02:27 PM
That's another thing. Some people refer to "heart" as something like determination, pride, devotion, etc. Not necessarily love and all that mush.

Hathore
06-16-2007, 03:27 PM
i think i do

Envy
06-16-2007, 07:46 PM
Did I ever have one?

I don't think so.

Youko Makuyo
06-16-2007, 10:33 PM
No. It was beaten out of me at a young age by all my peers.

raindrops028
06-17-2007, 08:24 AM
My heart had turned into a diamond.....it's so hard.....

Paladyn_Rage
06-17-2007, 08:03 PM
Um, feelings don't come from the heart. Its all in the mind, aka brain. Some people don't say that, its the truth. Whoever started this "heart" nonsense, with the organ being shaped entirely wrong, was a dumbass.

Im not negating the fact that feelings comes from brain, yet i think theres something more than biology in it. And heart is only pumping blood. I don't know why people start to think that feelings comes from heart. Of course, if you pierce someones heart that person will die, but smashing someones head into pieces will resault the same. And I'm pretty sure that first murdered man ever was killed with huge stone.

Riw
06-17-2007, 08:46 PM
I don't know why people start to think that feelings comes from heart.

Heart rate is associated with changing emotions, which led (for example) the Romans to think that feelings come from the heart.

Still, everyone recognizes the symbol, so there is no use disputing it. Yeah, I do have a heart. I'm actually quite an empathetic person. I do believe that it is possible to become emotionally dulled by life experiences, though, even if that probably isn't as common as claims of it. Also, some people (besides psychopaths) don't have the normal capacity to understand emotions, those suffering from alexithymia, or Asperger's syndrome or other such conditions.