Cure for cancer? [Archive]

Harley Quinn

07-05-2007, 08:19 PM

This is really amazing, it's only in the early stages yet but it's looking pretty good.I honestly didn't think I would see anything near approching a cure in my lifetime.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=463403&in_page_id=1770&ct=5

I'm pretty sure nobody else has put up a thread like this, I did use the search but it's a bit pants, was also unsure as to where I should put this.
So mods if you need to do anything, feel free.

Tobi

07-05-2007, 08:27 PM

Thats great news, if it passes all tests and gets to the final stages, we could possibly see a cure for cancer. This is amazing, those scientists at Cancer Research UK are incredible for making this. Kudos to them.

What next, a cure for HIV and AIDs?

Paladyn_Rage

07-05-2007, 08:27 PM

This are indeed great news - i don't need to quit smoking :headbang

What next, a cure for HIV and AIDs?

Yay! Welcome back free love xD

shaberry

07-05-2007, 08:37 PM

Hmmm...this sounds interesting. Hopefully the trial period on human testing goes well.

Rorschach

07-05-2007, 08:39 PM

What next, a cure for HIV and AIDs?
While a cure for that would be fantastic, i'd focus more on Heart Disease and Malaria.

Paladyn_Rage

07-05-2007, 08:43 PM

Well its really great that someday in the future, there will be cure for every illnes, yet our planet will get overpopulated then...

Harley Quinn

07-05-2007, 08:49 PM

Hmm, I must admit that your point is something I agree on, but our need to keep our loved ones around us completely negates it.I know it sounds cruel but these diseases are a way of thining out the herd, but humans are to selfish to see the bigger picture.

Oh and yeah, free love and smoking!Yay!

Rorschach

07-05-2007, 08:58 PM

Nah, the will always be diseases that are able to defeat cures or become more resistant.

Harley Quinn

07-05-2007, 09:06 PM

You think?
Mmm, suppose your right.Kinda scary to think about though-super diseases...urgh.

Tobi

07-05-2007, 11:01 PM

Common cold cannot be cured, only supressed with drugs.

shaberry

07-06-2007, 06:01 AM

Common cold cannot be cured, only supressed with drugs.

That is true...there's like hundreds of strains for that cold too.

Hail diseases! They keep our world population in check ^-^ Although it is hard to see our loved ones and those close to us suffer... -.-;;;

ZER(o)

07-06-2007, 07:38 AM

Chuck Norris' tears cure cancer... too bad he's never cried.
But seriously though:

While a cure for that would be fantastic, i'd focus more on Heart Disease and Malaria.

I once read somewhere that Malaria was the cause of 1/3 of deaths around the world, while heart disease is the #1 killer in more industrialized places. So, this would be a good idea.

Harley Quinn

07-06-2007, 06:28 PM

I can't believe only 5 people have posted here!Come on people, this is an actual possibility of curing cancer!

Paladyn_Rage

07-06-2007, 06:43 PM

People in our age (13-25) mostly ain't got cancer, so they probably don't care much about cure for it.

Guy

07-06-2007, 08:23 PM

Oh wow, cancer might actually never be a threat to us again! Well, I'll keep my eyes out for further news on this subject. I'm usually not too optimistics when scientists claim there is a cure; it takes time and lots of testing for it to be safe. But this is good news, really.

Tyekanik

07-06-2007, 08:39 PM

Eh, plenty of people 13-25 have been touched by cancer, not necessarily that they suffered from it, but have seen loved ones who have. This can even be bittersweet news for some. I also don't think you have to worry about people working on Malaria or anything else, I'm sure there are people working on just about everything out there, just not all on one project. This one made progress, it got the news. It may just turn out cancer was easier to cure than things like malaria rather than where the effort was, difficulty is not proportionate to severity, such as the cold.

SunnyPie♥

07-06-2007, 08:43 PM

These might actually work!
Yay~ :3

Paladyn_Rage

07-06-2007, 09:51 PM

Hmm if it would be good for any cancer (including brain-cancer and lung-cancer, ) then we could say that we get rid off one of the world most serious problems.

ZER(o)

07-07-2007, 07:35 AM

On a somewhat related note, I once remember reading somewhere of a British man beating AIDS. He's the first known human to do so. They, at first, though they had jumbled results, but I'm pretty sure the verdict was he beat it. I'll try to find the story, but this is probably news that the AIDS virus is weakening.

5th of April

07-07-2007, 08:03 AM

This is still far, far away from coming true.

For such a phenomenal cure it still has to be tested many times over. The research will still be published in a medical journal and other researchers all over the world will still have to replicate and validate this study.

Perhaps in the next 10 years.

Harley Quinn

07-07-2007, 04:57 PM

In the next 10 years is still closer and better than I originally thought we would have a cure by, I was thinking in the next 50 years.

Paladyn_Rage

07-07-2007, 07:03 PM

Yat. I'll be 69 years old when they invent it xD

Harley Quinn

07-08-2007, 06:28 AM

I'd be 72, thats kinda scaarry, I can't imagine being that old!If I got cancer now and they coulndt fend it off with chemo I'd be stuffed.

shaberry

07-08-2007, 10:01 AM

Yeah, it's unfortunate that the testing phase takes so long. However, it's for the saftey and benefit of the people. The scientists are just trying to make sure that they know all the side-effects and drawbacks of the therapy.

Klavier Gavin

07-08-2007, 11:20 AM

Yes, they have to see that everything is working fine until they can use it on human beings. If it really comes out 50 years later I'll already be 70.

Paladyn_Rage

07-08-2007, 11:31 AM

I'd be 72, thats kinda scaarry, I can't imagine being that old!If I got cancer now and they coulndt fend it off with chemo I'd be stuffed.

Don't worry pal, until that time, there will be probably nuclear war, and we all gonna die in beatiful age of 30-40 years old xD And if we will survive we will die during the fight and meet at Valhalla xD

And about those tests. Isn't there any possibility that they would end it faster?

Gojira

07-09-2007, 04:50 AM

Yeah... It probably won't be fully tested/perfected for the next 10-15 years. So it definitely is within all of our lifetimes... unless we have some geriatrics visiting the site(excluding me, of course).

Paladyn_Rage

07-09-2007, 10:54 AM

No one know how long he will live. As i said, everything can happen to everyone of us.

shaberry

07-09-2007, 08:40 PM

And about those tests. Isn't there any possibility that they would end it faster?

If anything the testing would take longer. Testing takes such a long time because they have to test the treatment on a variety of people, just to make sure that there aren't unknown adverse effects on the patients. The testing phase ensures that the treatment will mainly have the same effect on all patients.

phantom_ko

07-09-2007, 09:18 PM

Paladyn_Rage

07-09-2007, 09:45 PM

With Mars there could be a little difficulties...

And about cancer - well, lets hope those tests will end soon. Overpopulation is a problem, but on the other hand, if someone from my family would get cancer, I would like to be sure that he/she would survive.

shaberry

07-10-2007, 01:36 AM

Got a tiny little question about this technique. Lets say your lung was a sphere, lets imagine! If part of it was a cancer, and you go destroy it. What will become of the lost tissue? You start bleeding internally? Possibly your lungs get flooded with blood and you die?
Well...if it's works how it says it works...and the balls "heat up"...I'm imagining that the tissues around the ball will dissintegrate and burn, which will cause the blood to coagulate. So, essentially, I don't believe that the lungs will become flooded with blood, and it's not as if a HUGE chunk will be taken out. Which would cause the lung to bleed that much, not to mention, if that was the case, the lung would just collapse entirely.

But now that that was mentioned, I can't help but think that one of the possible serious adverse effects of this treatment would be emboli or thrombosis (blood clots), which would be very bad.

Twinky

07-10-2007, 01:44 AM

shaberry

07-10-2007, 02:05 AM

Twinky...I was talking about the tissue containing the cancer. Which, on it's own, indicates that cancer is the mutation of body tissue (i.e. created by DNA). However, all cancers aren't genetic. Meaning that it isn't passed though DNA. Cancer can occur in the body due to the exposure to carcinogens and cancer causing agents.

And yes...tissue DOES burn. I've seen it. I've been to numerous surgeries and have seen how they cut open the tissues, they do it with a tool that burns though the tissue and with scalpels. *shudders* And man...does burning human flesh stink...

Harley Quinn

07-10-2007, 01:51 PM

this is total BS, the article is not even real, in real as in authentic, heres the thing its not a cure, its TREATMENT!!!!! cancer consist of Genetic mutation of your own DNA its like addting a bathroom next to your Back yard Deck, the treatment only eliminate cancer at a lower cost of money but the fact is it does not CURE cancer. Shabarry's point have some correctness in it, the cancer doesn't "burn" it recalibrate to a smaller scale of mutation and it eventually dissolve.
The article is real I saw it in the daily mail, it came through my door, I checked it on their website and it was there.It's real alright.
O.k I agree with you it was frased wrong but in the end does it really matter, isnt that just nit picking?

Youko Makuyo

07-10-2007, 10:38 PM

My step sister has cancer. I hope they release this soon enough to help her before its too late. She did a lot of drugs though, thats why.

Gojira

07-10-2007, 10:58 PM

There probably won't be a single cure for cancer because there are so many risk factors that causes cancer that one definitive method of preventing it probably isn't possible. Basically, all we can currently do to prevent cancer is early detection and treatment but this article raises a lot of hopes because it gives a new alternative treatment instead of chemo/radio therapy because they come with a lot of adverse effects which doesn't give 100% possibility of removal of cancer just the chance that malignant cancer goes into remission. The current treatments can sometimes be just as harmful as the cancer itself and this not even talking about the psychological effects that go along with it as well. If there is a possibility of a safer, more effective treatment then I'm pretty excited about it's development but as I said before we probably won't be seeing clinical trials for another 5-15 years.

Paladyn_Rage

07-11-2007, 01:09 PM

5-15 years are better than 50 years. Yet even if it will be effective only on some sort of cancer, than its good enough, still its many lives saved.

yushin

07-18-2007, 05:01 PM

i've read in a time magazine that they're going to use patients tumors to make vacines against cancer.

a researcher in spain said.

Harley Quinn

07-19-2007, 08:43 PM

Did it say how it worked?That sounds a wierd, intresting all the same, but definitely a little strange.

yushin

07-20-2007, 01:07 PM

did that intrest you?
i might read that time magazine again.. and post a few info's about it..

(now where did i placed all my time magazines??? hmm)
i've good lots of times magazines and it'll take for a while...

Harley Quinn

08-04-2007, 03:57 PM

Yeah if you could find it that would be great, if you can't find it in the magazines then they prob have a website where you can search for it.

BeMused

08-05-2007, 12:17 AM

Sophire: I wonder if you could provide us with peer reviewed articles related to the one you have shown us?

As someone mentioned, there is no cure for cancer, only treatment. I agree. It is almost impossible to reverse a cause once it is established. Most invasive treatments, at most, are to slow down the progression of a cancer. And the outcome is variable, depending very much on individual.

Btw, what is more effective in slowing, if not stopping, the development of a cancer that can be avoided? Prevention.

Harley Quinn

08-05-2007, 07:53 PM

<_<
>_>
Um, at the risk of sounding utterly stupid(which I prob am!:lol ) your gonna have to break down that request for me.
What the hell is a peer reviewed article?

BeMused

08-05-2007, 09:49 PM

To keep things simple, peer reviewed articles are articles that are reviewed / validated / acknowledged / proven true by other people of related profession, be it in the form of a journal, newsletter, etc.

. . . Since you don't know about it, I guess you can just ignore my request. xP

Harley Quinn

08-06-2007, 01:15 AM

Ah I see, I had an idea it might have been that but I wasn't one hundred percent sure.
Yeah I don't know anybody that can confirm it's true but the article is from a fairly reputable paper so *shrugs*I guess that will have to do for the moment.

Kurz Weber

08-06-2007, 06:44 AM

If all this is true, it is wonderful news. If my grandfather could get this cure, then my mom could come back to live near me. If I prayed then I would pray for this. This is music to my ears.... :)

Harley Quinn

08-06-2007, 11:29 PM

I think it's true, it's all seems highly plausible, but remember if it is, it won't be available for a good few years yet.
I know a few people who have been affected by cancer and I hope for your sake as well as mine that it comes into use soon.

Aizen_sama

08-07-2007, 10:09 PM

I think a cure for cancer will eventually come up. But maybe not during my lifetime.

KholdStare

08-09-2007, 08:12 AM

There are MANY different methods being tested for curing cancer. One that I know personally is using a strain of herpes to kill off cancer cells. It has proven to be quite effective but of course the side effect would be the patient contracting herpes.