Harry Potter Discussion Thread. For those who have read the final book!!!

[Artemis]

Well, knowing that some people have finished reading the final installation for the Harry Potter series, some of us decided that we might as well start a thread that allows us to freely say the plot and events in the book without using spoilers.

Hence, giving us full opportunity of saying what we like about Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows.

I might as well start, eh?

I don't know, but I didn't like that Fred Weasely died. Now, I know that if every good guy survived, it wouldn't be such a good storyline. But nevertheless, I really like that character...

Especially the film's adaption of him and his twin. (More so in the Order of the Phoenix.)

:)

[Kenken]

voldemort kills harry, harry dies, harry talks with dumby, harry comes back to life, harry kicks (magically and verbally) voldy's ass, elder wand kills voldy, harry and ginny have 3 kids, everyone lives happily ever after o.o

[Artemis]

Kill joy...
j/k.

Heck, the only reason I did this is thread, is because some other peoples thought we might as well try it.

They better get online soon, otherwise I'm going to look like a d***head. :)

[Kenken]

o.o

ok...

i feel sorry for snape >:

[mangaman16]

i knew she would have killed off members of the order of the phoenix and aurors but why lupin and tonks and fred. I don't mind moody's death much.And what spells did molly and flitwick use to kill bellatrix and dolohov?I knew snape was good and i also felt sorry for him.

[Kenken]

i know, lupin and tonks did not deserved to die >:

as for the spells...i dunno, maybe stupefy or something, i doubt it was the killing curse though, and i'm pretty sure there are other curses used to kill, but that leave a mark

[Ranger]

I reckon. Fred didn't deserve to die. T.T

I liked the timeskip, though. The new characters and all.

[Cookie MonstAr]

ok, here's what i think

book 7 is one of the worst HP books - yes, it is the last book, Harry lives, etc., but some things are too boring and farfetched - like their constant apparatation around the forests, wtf??, and all of the Dumbledore stuff... idk, it was all strange to me (all his rebellion when he was a teen, then the story about his sister.... nah)

and killing Fred - WTF DID YOU DO THAT FOR????????
no, you cannot kill one of the funniest characters, that is also a twin, kill McGonagal, Hagrid or whoever, but don't him kill him
(that is the sadest part in the book for me)

got the feeling that all the Snape stuff ended too quickly, he deserved (as a character), a better death, at least with a good fight ot sth.

then, the title - Deathly Hallows - hm..... i know that they're mentioned throughout the book, but the whole book was more bout the horcruxes..

but don't get me wrong, even though i resent JK a lot, #7 brought clousure and answered all of the questions, and Harry lived! so i forgive her every little thing that i don't agree on :P

(long live Harry Potter !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

[mangaman16]

yessssssss! finally someone agrees lol.I am still buying it though and i can't really judge it yet because i read the wikipedia summary but from what i saw i don't like really like the book.Some parts were good though.

[Kenken]

i tihnk this book was one of the best, and in my opinion the worst was the 5th

[Artemis]

I actually think JK did well in finishing the series.

She managed to bring an end to the events surrounding Harry in a way that isn't just purely full of happiness. No, she made an ending that showed that even though we win, it can never be a clean win.

J.K Rowling managed to finish a saga with a book that showed the true changes between the characters, the situation and how it has finished.

:)

[ultimate]

Yeah I agree, I think the Deathly Hallows ended well and like some others I didn't like how Fred Weasley died, guess cos him and his bro are one of my favourite characters... Overall I thought it was a pretty good book though what was with Draco's son being named Scorpius? I thought that was weird lol

Also I agree with Kenshin_san665, the worst one was probably Order of the Phoenix... The ones I liked the most are book numbers 4, 6 and now 7

[Insight]

Yeah I agree, I think the Deathly Hallows ended well and like some others I didn't like how Fred Weasley died,

yeah i was sad to see him go aswell. i felt really sorry though for lupin and tonks especially after just having had a kid.

the one thing i though was missing from the epilogue was what happed to Luna. she was probably one of my favorite characters throughout the series and i waned to know what happened to her. i hope she became famous for finding the snorkack . lol

[ultimate]

Yeah I forgot about Tonks and Lupin, I didn't expect them to die since they had a kid and everything... I didn't expect Crabbe to die either, he didn't seem main character enough to die in my opinion though I doubt many readers cared that much anyway... Never expected Dobby to die too, Kreacher basically took his place now lol :D

I wonder how J.K Rowling chooses which character to die for the 7th book, does she close her eyes and pick it outta a hat or something? lol

[Waverly]

I liked this book, but it isn't my favorite. I don't think it had quite the spark that some of the other books had. It was really tense. Though I understand that a certain level of tension was needed for the plot, it seemed a little off to me. I mean one of my favorite parts about the series is the humor. This book lacked it terribly... and then to kill off Fred, one of the funniest characters in it, seemed like overkill. I was expecting there to be a Weasley death, but the choice of one of the twins didn't seem right.

I also could have done without the epilogue. I found it rather dull compared to the rest of the book. Though I was eager to find out what happened with the sextet in the future, I didn't like how this was portrayed. Plus, we didn't find out what Luna ended up doing 19 years later.

I also have a question about Lupin and Tonks' kid. Oftentimes doesn't the godparent take custody of the child if both of it's parent's die? So shouldn't Harry have taken care of Ted? It stated that Ted visited Harry's house a few times a week, so who actually had custody over him? Did he stay with Tonks' mother?

[Artemis]

I think that may of been the point of the epilogue. Rowling creates the basic scene of how she imagined how the main characters would end up in 19 years after the incident, and then her imagine is to 'flow' on to yours.

As in, yes, Harry and Ginny have 3 children. Yes, Hermoine and Ron have 2 children. Yes, Draco has a single child. But happened to the other surviving members? What happens to those who loved the dead? It's up to you to decide.

The story of Harry Potter is no longer J.K Rowling's story that she writes for you. Rather, it is Rowling's gift to the fans of Harry Potter.

[mangaman16]

Yeah I forgot about Tonks and Lupin, I didn't expect them to die since they had a kid and everything... I didn't expect Crabbe to die either, he didn't seem main character enough to die in my opinion though I doubt many readers cared that much anyway... Never expected Dobby to die too, Kreacher basically took his place now lol :D
I wonder how J.K Rowling chooses which character to die for the 7th book, does she close her eyes and pick it outta a hat or something? lol
WTF LOL :Haha i wonder if she did that too.seriously.

[Neko Kyo]

Who knows. the ending was very well done though. Albus Severus Potter XD

[II Xion II]

ok, here's what i think
book 7 is one of the worst HP books - yes, it is the last book, Harry lives, etc., but some things are too boring and farfetched - like their constant apparatation around the forests, wtf??, and all of the Dumbledore stuff... idk, it was all strange to me (all his rebellion when he was a teen, then the story about his sister.... nah)

OMGWTF O NOES U DIDNT?!?!?!

I am afraid to ask what you look for in a book.

This was easily the best book in the series with the myriad of themes and issues it dealt with, especially themes of great maturity including: confronting one's own death and truth (as Harry did in that amazing chapter), the complexity of humanity (Dudley saying goodbye, Snape's many conflicting loyalties, the Malfoys tragic situation, the individualization of Crabbe and Goyle, Lupin seeking adventure to shirk his duties and sorrows, Kreacher's pain and why he was the way he was, etc.), the humanizing of formerly "immortal" characters (like Dumbledore's past and ambition and mistakes, Draco becoming somewhat multi-dimensional, Snakes role as the anti-hero and his sacrifice, etc.), and the whole tragedy, unexpectedness, and unfairness of life (with Fred suddenly dying and Colin Creevey dropping dead to show no one's immunity to death), the treatment of society and social classes, and even more.

The themes and overwhelming issues it dealt with was incredible for a book where so much had to be resolved. It was able to touch on adventure, tragedy, and humanity all the while changing the pace to make the quest for the Horcruxes more realistic (with the slow scenes of camping drawn out and the other scenes rushed to show us the desperateness of the situations).

This book blew the other six out of the water and was without a doubt the best of the series literary-wise. Just because it didn't go the way some of you planned doesn't make it bad. I do have some complaints, but in a book this anticipated and epic, I cannot complain that much.

and killing Fred - WTF DID YOU DO THAT FOR????????
no, you cannot kill one of the funniest characters, that is also a twin, kill McGonagal, Hagrid or whoever, but don't him kill him
(that is the sadest part in the book for me)

In a war zone, no one is safe. One of the twins survived because it is that much more tragic with one dying. Everyone surviving was unneeded, some people had to die, whether they were a major character or not.

got the feeling that all the Snape stuff ended too quickly, he deserved (as a character), a better death, at least with a good fight ot sth.
then, the title - Deathly Hallows - hm..... i know that they're mentioned throughout the book, but the whole book was more bout the horcruxes..
but don't get me wrong, even though i resent JK a lot, #7 brought clousure and answered all of the questions, and Harry lived! so i forgive her every little thing that i don't agree on :P
(long live Harry Potter !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Honestly, if Harry died in "The Forest Again" and the book ended there, I would extremely impressed. It would defy all "comfortable" endings for the book and would truly do the series justice. But that chapter, which in my opinion was the best and most beautifully written in the series, did not mark the end of the book.

As for the Snape stuff, having it drawn out and sentimental is too cheesy. It happened suddenly and unexpectedly and further went along with the theme of the harsh and brutal reality of life. He had no farewells or forgiveness speeches, just a brutal death from a brutal man.

And the title I thought was appropriate as well. The Deathly Hallows played an enormous role in Harry actually winning against Voldemort and were responsible for Dumbledore's inevitable death. It also allowed Harry to confront his own death with courage and served as a nice parallel to the Horcruxes.

I mean should we call the sixth Harry Potter book, Harry Potter and Dumbledore's Death because the Half-Blood Prince wasn't really mentioned or used until the end? The Hallows played a huge role in the story and were responsible for many MAJOR events.

[analog]

Well lets see, thought the book was great after I reread the end because the first time I read the end I wasn't sure I liked it, but then I realized I loved it!

I think that if she wanted to kill Fred, she should of had George die earlier :(, it would have made it sad but still I think better to have them both dead and Fred could be all pissed about his brother and going crazy and stuff... When Remus and Nymphadora died I think theirs surprised me most and I was more emotional about theirs then anyone elses and I am not sure why...

Harry talking to Voldemort and speaking to him like Dumbledore did was awesome! I loved when he was calling him Riddle.

Molly Weasley using the word ***** was good, I liked the fact we saw her destroy someone. I think that may have been one of the only times JK Rowling used a swear word and actually said it the whole series. She did elude to people using them like "effing" but she never said it.

The Epilogue was the worst part of the book. It gave you nothing that you couldn't have already assumed. We know Ron+Hermoine, we knew Neville <3 Herbology, once Harry said in the book "Its not like we are going to get married"(or something like that when he was talking about Ginny) I just knew it was going to happen. She didn't give us any sort of info of what happened over those years, what did they do? What are their professions? Also we didn't find out about any one else, what about the other Weasley's? The Dursley's? Hogwarts Headmaster/Mistress? Minister of Magic? etc...

But I did find these two lines funny/interesting: "Grandad Weasley would never forgive you if you married a mudblood." and then Harry saying "you were named for two Headmasters of Hogwarts. One of them was a Slytherin and he was probably the bravest man I ever knew." Surprised Harry praised him that much.

[davidn15]

what were the hardest scenes for you to read. dobby's death was unexpected and the hardest in the book. then fred. didn't really care about any of the other deaths.

[shinigami-butterfly]

Snape's story is actually pretty touchy, before the book was published alot of people predicted that Harry or Ron will die, and it turns out that none of the predictions are correct, but I wasn't particularly happy about the ending, I mean, the 4 main characters married and have kids? That's not what I was expecting. I was looking forward to a tragic and beautiful ending. And the names of the children are confusing too.

But overall this is a good book, full of surprises. It made me feel sad and happy at the same time, I was happy that Harry lived but sad because the whole series came to an end, afterall this series accompanied me for more than 4 years.

[Night Prowler]

Didn't like the ending much, the childrens names were all to cheasy beyond belief, but I liked the fact that Ginney and Harry got together in the end and so did Hermione and Ron, and Ron's comment about being really famous was good.

OMG how cool is Nevielle now! YAY FOR BEHEADING THAT SNAKE!! but where the hell did he get the sword??

[II Xion II]

the hell did he get the sword??

Only a true Gryffindor could pull that sword out of that hat.

And yes, it was the real sword, as Grimhook was never worthy of it and obtained it illegitimately.

[analog]

He pulled it out just as Harry had done in the chamber.

@NP Yes the kids name were extremely cheesy.

Hardest part for me to read? I am not really sure, Fred dying wasn't hard to read because it was so fast, maybe the whole thing was a few paragraphs of grabbing Percy. I am glad he came back though.

I always thought Snape was good and I think she did a good job with his story but I thought he would have done something earlier in the book and come out that he was good.

[ultimate]

For the kids names I think the worst was Scorpius which was Draco's son lol, 2nd worst in my opinion would be Albus Severus :D Didn't mind that Harry's son and daughter being called James and Lily that much though still extremely cheesy lol Glad Ron and Hermonie's kids didn't get named like that

[Waverly]

The hardest part for me to read was when Harry realized that he had to die. "Does it hurt?" oh man that tugged on my heart strings.
I also got a little choked up during the multiple times we were led to believe that Hagrid had died. :P

I never really cared for Dobby in the rest of the books. I found him to be rather obnoxious. When he died, though, it was pretty hard to read. Though I loved when Kreacher came back and led the other house elves on an ankle-biting spree. :D

[davidn15]

yeah i liked kreacher in this book. It was awesome when mrs. weasly came out of nowhere and was like "NOT MY DAUGHTER B****" best line ever.

[Cookie MonstAr]

@ Xion:
OU YES I DID! IN YOUR FACE (+*hand*)!!!!!!
muahahahahahahahahaha, jk, rofl

ok, i was very much under the impression when i wrote that post, it was right after i have read the book... and no, it's not the worst HP book (far from it..), but it was dull and stupid in some segments

because this was the last book, i expected perfection from JK - you can tell that she was under lots of pressure from all over the world, and the press the whole time she was writing the last book..
the first part (the middle of the book actually) was toooo boring, and the last was too «die hard» style = meaning, the book didn't have the usual dynamics (and this is the 7th book, the last book!!! – it should have been composed better)
the Deathly Hallows reminded me to much of the Chamber of secrets which i'm not fond of (don't know why dou, it is simply........ hm......... like ........ too farfetched or whatever, i can't really put my finger on it)

one of the reasons i "didn't like" the book, was that it turned out to be everything i thought it would be like (all of the things that we discussed before, blah blah)

what bugs me the most is those cca 200 pages bout their constant deapparatation round the woods... and the part when Ron flips out and leaves them.... i mean wtf was that all about (i know he was affected by the horcrux but still) = a long boring wtf episode that ruins the book (in my humble opinion)

another thing, Snape was a very important character throughout the books and she really didn't do him right simply by killing him like that, and letting the Pensive (or whatever it is called in eng) do all the work - he didn't deserve such "small" death!! he was one of the most complex chars and think it would've been better if he fought with Voldemort, then lost to him (+ showed his mad magic skills in the process), and told before Harry and Voldy his story...
then, the whole Dumbledore thing - she changed the character too much in just one book, she showed he is but a human, but there was too much of his history in this book - through the books, he was always saying that even he can make mistakes and bad decisions, but there were too much of them in just 600 pages, i think she over did it a bit

i do not even want to comment the last chapter... it was one of the sorriest and lamest chapters ever, and those last sentences... omfg – crappy ending, not worthy of Harry Potter (the only thing i liked was when we find out how much Harry respects Snape know, by naming his kid Severus, etc.)
and in all of this, please take into consideration that it was off for me to read a HP book in english... there were lots of expressions and words that i didn't really understand, and i wasn't in the mood to find them all in my dictionary (i just kept reading) - i have the british edition... (the american one, i think, would've been easier to read cuz i'm used to «their» english)

the #7 title – sure, the 6th book wasn't all about Snape, but that book has a different comosition and way of writing, and this one is - different, there is too much going on (i think she should've put a tad smaller dozes of completely NEW characters, things and chars's histories)
i know the title should be «mysterious» like all of the other HP titles, so they produce a big fuzz before it is free for sale, but the deathly hallows are a too big of a concept to just explain them in 200 pages... idk... think she wanted too much – explain all of the unanswered questions from old HP books, AND to put a fully new ubercool story - in the LAST book!... it would've been good if she didn't change her usual way of writing
(you can see how she has improved from the very beginning, from the first book, but like i have said, you can see her «stress» in the book

and i'm not denying that this book really did show "confronting one's own death and truth (as Harry did in that amazing chapter), the complexity of humanity (Dudley saying goodbye, Snape's many conflicting loyalties, the Malfoys tragic situation, the individualization of Crabbe and Goyle, Lupin seeking adventure to shirk his duties and sorrows, Kreacher's pain and why he was the way he was, etc.), the humanizing of formerly "immortal" characters (like Dumbledore's past and ambition and mistakes, Draco becoming somewhat multi-dimensional, Snakes role as the anti-hero and his sacrifice, etc.), and the whole tragedy, unexpectedness, and unfairness of life (with Fred suddenly dying and Colin Creevey dropping dead to show no one's immunity to death), the treatment of society and social classes, and even more."

but that doesn't cut it for me...... i know all of that, but i'm still too affected with the things i didn't like in the book ( !!!!!!! -------- i'm quite sure i'll think otherwise once i reread it in croatian - in cca 4 months..., i'm lazy so i always read transalted books)

eventhough i just keep talking bout whats wrong with the book, don't you go thinking i don't love it!!! it is just that i had much bigger expectations, or sth.
i have a huge respect for HP series so it's quite natural for me to complain about them, simply because i have read them countless times and i idolize them (in a strange way) :p



(i'd like to emphasize once more that i read it in another language, not in my own, so my complaning of the book is somewhat exagurated cuz this one was my first book in english language, hehe)

WE SHALL MEET AGAIN IN 4 MONTHS YOUNG XION, WHEN I REREAD THE WHOLE THING AGAIN!!! BUAHAHAHAHA http://forum.crotaku.net/mysmiliesvb/mysmilie_267.gif





(EDIT: omg, i'm rereading this post before submitting it and i see how much ranting and crazy talking comes from me, hihi... http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z15/geb_bucket/hot.gif i didn't think i had it in me, lol)

[davidn15]

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/19935372/

it's a recent interview with more news about the encyclopedia

[adorkable]

I spent a total of 10 hours and 30 minutes reading Deathly Hallows. I read it through thoroughly, actually making sure that I understood what was going on (I've had severe cases of just reading pages without taking anything in :P).

Firstly, I have to say that I enjoyed reading this book, but it wasn't my favourite out of the seven books. Heaps had happened within 600 pages or so, which I thought was really well put, but what keeps coming back to my mind is what will this book's film adaptation be like. But I shouldn't worry too much about the films anyway, as they have been quite poor overall.

One of the most shocking moments in this book for me was Fred's death. Definitely unexpected and tragic; he was a character that I really least expected to die. A professor, perhaps, but not a part of the comic duo! I thought they were completely safe even after George's ear was destroyed ('ear, 'ear!).

There were, of course, more shocking moments but I don't want to elaborate.

Mrs. Weasley's use of "b-tch" was hilarious. :)
There were quite a few swear words used in this book, or at least JK refraining herself by using "effing" instead of ****ing.

I could do without the epilogue, but it was nice to know what happened to a few of the characters afterwards. I thought Rowling could've mentioned Luna in the epilogue (hey, Luna's a favourite of mine! I demand to know what happened to her!), and perhaps a couple others, but I thought it was a pleasant ending. I'm certainly content about it.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/19935372/
it's a recent interview with more news about the encyclopedia
That's great news; I really do hope that this is published - getting to know the fate of other characters is great. Before reading that, I thought the 19 years absence thing was good because Harry Potter fans still had much to contemplate about the characters and their fates.

[bludd]

i read the book in two days, it was good to me and i enjoyed the ending you know with harry and al and ginny.

[Waverly]

I think I would have like the book just as much (if not more) if there hadn't been an epilogue. I think the story would have stood alone well enough. However, I am rather excited about this possible encyclopedia. :)

I really wish that JK had spent more time with Snape's death. He was one of the best and most complex characters in the story, and I think he deserved a little more than he was given.

[adorkable]

^ Yeah, I agree with you. Snape is really only in the book during the last couple chapters, and his death was pretty short too. But what I thought was good was how Snape looked into Harry's eyes and thought of Lily (something like that anyway if I'm remembering correctly; I can't quote explicitly as I don't have the book with me at the moment).

[Guy]

I finished the book today! Woot.

OK, so it looks like I was wrong about Snape being evil... damn it, I was so sure he was on Voldy's side!

Anyways....

Good parts: I love all the battles, the ones in the Malfoy's Manor, the ones under Gringotts, and of course, the final battle.

Bad parts: Albus Dumbledore's story was incredibly boring. The only few parts that intrigued me was Aberforth's version of the story. However, Albus's version was uninteresting to me.

All in all, great book, and a great end to the series.

[.Rik-uh-shey]

I read the book 2 days ago. In my opinion it was the best by far. Though I didn't like the way Voldemort died. It was pretty anti-climatic. He just basically killed himself. I was hoping to see an all-out battle between him and Harry. Though that would be too predictable eh?

Fred's death didn't shock me so much. I was expecting someone to die in the Weasley family. And as soon as Harry was made godfather of Lupin's child I just knew that him and Tonks would be killed.

[Ryuuiku]

my librairan ruined the whole supraise for me she told we every single person tha died voldemort fred weasley she also said draco and snape

[Guy]

@Rukia Soul: Wow, that must really suck.

@13th Apostle: I agree with Voldemort's death, it was kind of anti-climatic... but at least the battles with the Death Eaters and all were dramatic.

[adorkable]

Fred's death didn't shock me so much. I was expecting someone to die in the Weasley family. And as soon as Harry was made godfather of Lupin's child I just knew that him and Tonks would be killed.
I knew that too. It was just a gut feeling. Another one being that Harry said something like, "It's not like I'm going to marry her [Ginny]" which I knew instantly that they were most likely going to end up together in the end.

OMG, something that was so odd to me; Ron speaking parseltongue (sp?)! You can't just mimic a language, especially if it is parseltongue, a language that is hereditary! That just seemed off to me.

[Guy]

Oh yeah, Ron speaking Parseltongue! Wtf is up with that? Even if he did mimicked what Harry said, Harry didn't say open, did he?

[adorkable]

Exactly. It was all really bizarre to me. I guess in the previous books Ron was good at copying voices, etc. (and in Deathly Hallows Ron did mimic Wormtail's voice while imprisoned, which was probably a lead-up to the whole parseltongue thing).

[.Rik-uh-shey]

Actually I believe Harry did say open =/

[adorkable]

Well, even if Harry did say open (okay, it is most likely that he said something like that in the Chamber of Secrets :P), it seemed really weird that Ron was able to mimic the language and actually have the chamber open for him.

[Kenken]

he did say open, only in parseltongue >.>

[II Xion II]

he did say open, only in parseltongue >.>

To be fair to Ron (and to sense) he was just mimicking the sound. I could mimic Belgian or Swahili, but it is not like I know what the hell I am talking about.

He simply mimicked the sound Harry made.

But I think to actually understand Parseltoungue, one must be born with its innate ability.

Which would mean that Harry can no longer speak it now that he has no more Voldemort in him, right?

[Kenken]

it is possible that he won't be able to anymore, not that i tihnk he'll need it

[Guy]

Mimicking another language? That's kind of hard... I mean, if you get one pronunciation wrong... like if you made the "g" sound instead of the "k" sound, then it isn't right...

[adorkable]

Well, I guess the mimicking thing was a bit weird, but it's definitely not impossible to mimic a language and the sounds.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19959323/
Rowling discusses what happens to some of the characters after 19 years. :)

[.Rik-uh-shey]

o.O

Nice find Adorkable, thanks for that =)

[analog]

I still don't get why she would come out and say this now, which still doesn't give us all that much but in the book she writes the biggest piece of crap I have ever seen, I was really mad when I read the epilogue...

Encyclopedia that she is supposedly writing hopefully will answer lots of questions.

[Guy]

Wait, analog, why are you so dissatisfied with the last book?

[adorkable]

I still don't get why she would come out and say this now, which still doesn't give us all that much but in the book she writes the biggest piece of crap I have ever seen, I was really mad when I read the epilogue...

Encyclopedia that she is supposedly writing hopefully will answer lots of questions.
Well, in that interview she did say that she wanted the epilogue to be rather vague and lacking. I do agree, though, that it wasn't written that well.

[.Rik-uh-shey]

Wait, analog, why are you so dissatisfied with the last book?

Hes dissatisfied with the epilogue not the book =/

[Artemis]

Good find Adork.

Woah, they tell the character's jobs and such.

I wouldn't of guessed that Harry ends up working at the Auror Department... and the head of the department as well.

:)

[Guy]

There was nothing wrong with the epilogue, except that it was a bit vague... and nothing bad happened to the Malfoys.

[.Rik-uh-shey]

Meh, I'm glad that nothing really bad happened to the Malfoys. Because if it wasn't for Lucius' wife (I forgot her name) then Harry would be dead. I'm pretty sure that Draco would've become a nicer guy after all of that.

[analog]

Well I wish she didn't even include that epilogue, it was that bad in my opinion. There was no real point to even include it. But meh whatever. I wasn't dissatisfied with the book, but once I read the epilogue it was rather disappointing to see her close the series with that...

[Que Sera Sera]

Meh, I'm glad that nothing really bad happened to the Malfoys. Because if it wasn't for Lucius' wife (I forgot her name) then Harry would be dead. I'm pretty sure that Draco would've become a nicer guy after all of that.

It's really wierd how she lies. Really wierd...

[analog]

Well she lies because she wants to go to the castle as soon as she can so she can find Draco, and if he is in trouble to save him.

[Guy]

I think the Malfoys lying made no sense. Weren't the Malfoys suppose to be the closest supporters of Voldemort? Yet, both Narcissa and Draco both lied to protect Harry.

[adorkable]

Yeah, but Draco was an unwilling supporter of Voldemort anyway (and it was pretty obvious because he didn't want to tortue others for information). And when Harry and the others escape from the Malfoy manor, the Malfoys are punished, I believe. Malfoy is also later threatened by another death eater during the Battle of Hogwarts, and Ron and Harry later save him.

When Narcissa lied to Voldemort, it was because she wanted to get to the castle quickly to see her son, Draco.

I did find it pretty weird that Narcissa lied to Voldemort, but whatever. :P

[Que Sera Sera]

What, I want to ask is, I've read the book three times, yet I CAN'T FIND WHERE LUPIN DIES!!!!! I only found out he died when Harry used the ressurection stone

[adorkable]

I don't think it says WHEN exactly Lupin dies, but it does mention that Lupin is dead when Harry is looking around the Great Hall. But I'm not sure... Maybe I missed it as well. :S

[Que Sera Sera]

Eh, I hate JK Rowling for that. Lupin was like awesome!!!!!

[mangaman16]

Eh, I hate JK Rowling for that. Lupin was like awesome!!!!!
i agree with you all the way poor lupin,tonks and fred.I even felt for snape lol.As for lupin's death it was just mentioned that his and tonk's bodies lied beside fred.Voldemort and the death eaters were actually scary in this one.The battle at hogwarts was the best part of the book.The epilogue is nonsense imo but i will miss the book and i'm sorry this is the final book.I'll just have to wait for the movies then.

[hornet2600]

I don't get how tonks and lupin who were exceedingly strong ended up dead. If Voldemort had death eaters who were that strong, how the hell did harry and the DA defeat so many in the fifth?
I was also surprised that Mad Eye who was also supposed to be awesome got caught totally off guard and killed so easily. You'd think he'd have been able to defend himself after being an auror for so long.
Also, personally I'd like to see how strong harry's become now that he's head of the auror department beecause all throughout the books where he actually fights, he basically uses stupefy, expeliarmas (probably misspelled), and the body bind. I mean WTF? how did he manage to win the triwizard tournament, defeat hoards of death eaters, and ultimately defeat voldemort with such limited magical knowledge. This has always bothered me, and i know he had the elder wand, but dumbledore defeated it when that strong dark wizard, who was supposed to be about equal with him, used it (can't remember his name sorry), so how did harry whose skill is lightyears away from voldemorts defeat him?
Also, if voldemort now had harry's blood inside of him and his protective spells power, wouldn't that have either allowed him to use the elder wand because he had part of harry in him just like harry had a part of voldy in him or gotten the power of the protection like harry got voldemorts powers?
.................................................. ok i feel better now. Had to get that off my chest.

[Waverly]

It wasn't that Narcissa was lying to protect Harry, but that she realized that her own family was more important than any allegiance she had to Voldemort.

On page 726 (American Version) of The Deathly Hallows:

Narcissa knew that the only way she would be permitted to enter Hogwarts, and find her son, was as part of the conquering army. She no longer cared whether Voldemort won.

We knew before this book that Narcissa cared more about protecting Draco than helping Voldemort, and she would defy Voldemort in order to do it. Like in the beginning of Half-Blood Prince, she defys Voldemort by making the Unbreakable Vow with Snape, making sure he would protect her son.
I thought it was nice to see a little bit of humanity from death eaters.

[mangaman16]

If the aurors,the order and harry and friends were abusing the killing curse,they would have not been so many deaths.The death eaters will kill anybody so when the good guys meet death eaters they should kill them as ron had suggested.I was tired of seeing harry potter using stupefy all the time but atleast he used the cruciatus curse well on a deatheater.

[Guy]

Haha, Harry used the cruciatus curse! Isn't that a lifetime in Azkaban?

Anyways, I'm still a bit confused about the whole Malfoy thing. I mean, Draco had no reason to protect Potter...

[sweeter]

I have a question. Draco had a son, Scorpius, right? With whom?

(:

[Guy]

I think with Pansy Parkinson... I always thought they were a couple.

[adorkable]

It wasn't exactly clear who Draco's wife is. Actually, it wasn't clear at all; no description or name was given. We can assume it's Pansy, but bleh. I dislike her, so no thanks. :P

[Guy]

Lol, true, she didn't state it was Pansy, but she's the most likeliest person. Oh well, who cares?

[Hits]

I have a question about what I think is a big loophole. Portraits. More specifically, the portraits in the headmaster's office. I mean, are they just a mere footprint of the person who once lived? If they are, why was Dumbledore's portrait giving Snape instructions after he died? It dampened the severity of the loss of Dumbledore's death imo. Why hasn't it cross Harry's mind that he could've just went to the portrait when he was so lost? Bah.

[mangaman16]

yea portraits are weird as if the people in them are still conscious.The portraits make it seem as the persons in them are not really dead.So in a way they are still living.The portraits even move!!wtf?

[Guy]

Yes, I think the portraits are big loopholes as well. Harry can just find a portrait of Sirius Black and talk to him. Doesn't Harry have a picture of his parents? He can talk to his parents that way, too.

[adorkable]

I've always seen the portraits as JUST a replica of the person's personality and are knowledgable of past memories. I also think that the "owner" of the portrait was able to tell their portrait things; like, for future reference.

I also believe that photos aren't able to speak, and are just looped (basically, like gif images :P).

[Night Prowler]

Yea I think portraits are a complexed magical thing where the pictures can just be taken with a simple magic camera.

[Guy]

If portraits are just replicas of a person, then how come Phineaus Nigellus has so much personality and seem to be so knowledgeable about his environment?

[adorkable]

Meh, maybe he's been there too long. :P

[Guy]

No, I think it's just a loophole. But hey, Rowling is a human; she makes mistakes, but w/e, it's not like it's a big one anyways.

[adorkable]

I think if she were asked about portraits and their proper function, I think she would have an explanation for them. I'm not sure if she's mentioned anything about how portraits go about. Oh well.

EDIT

Really good interview with JK Rowling. She answers heaps of questions.
Retrieved from MuggleNet.
http://mugglenet.com/app/news/full_story/1156

[II Xion II]

No, I think it's just a loophole. But hey, Rowling is a human; she makes mistakes, but w/e, it's not like it's a big one anyways.

I agree with you.

I have often wondered that myself at times. Like, if Harry wants to talk to Dumbledore about his past so badly and such, why not go to the Headmaster's Office and talk to his portrait.

I mean Phineas Nigellus seemed knowledgeable enough and even scourged Mundungus Fletcher for stealing Black heirlooms. He even expressed sympathy for the death of Sirius Black.

[Kisuke Urahara]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvvFiZyEyTA

Made me laugh. Harry Potter fans will like. (Not me on the vid, btw)

[Toasty]

Just want to say, I FINALLY finished the final book. :) It made me smile!!!!!

I was write about Snape! I had thought it possible earlier (like, say, in Book 2) ... but man, I KNEW there was something up by Book 5!! I was SO certain. Of course, people would argue that he was the worst possible man EVER! HAH! I win. *does a happy dance* He's one of my favorite characters!!!

... I liked the ending a lot. Nice, clean, and it all fell together fairly nicely.

I'm going to have to go reread ALL these posts now, as well as all the books! I've only read each of them once. blegh.

[Cookie MonstAr]

and ultimately defeat voldemort with such limited magical knowledge. This has always bothered me, and i know he had the elder wand, but dumbledore defeated it when that strong dark wizard, who was supposed to be about equal with him, used it (can't remember his name sorry), so how did harry whose skill is lightyears away from voldemorts defeat him?
the prophecy - nothing more, nothing less

Also, if voldemort now had harry's blood inside of him and his protective spells power, wouldn't that have either allowed him to use the elder wand because he had part of harry in him just like harry had a part of voldy in him or gotten the power of the protection like harry got voldemorts powers?
Yes, he had his blood and all, but he didn't have a piece of Harry's soul, like Harry had Voldemort's (Harry = horcrux ...), which gave him certain characteristics of dark magic possibly
but i read (somewhere) that speaking parsel language isn't a dark ability but that it is common that dark wizards know it... (now here's the problem, i lend the book a week ago so i can't look up the part about Ron «speaking» parsel language.... argh, does it say that he mimicked it or what?, can someone qoute it for me; but nevertheless, it could just happen that Ron DOES know parsel... i mean why not... he comes from an old pure blood family and all, but the only problem is that he isn't a powerful wizard and that he just figured out, after all that time, that he can talk parsel, perhaps he's slow, lol)

bout the portraits:
i never thought of them as loopholes; i see them as a reflection of the original person, that contains their personality and a «certain amount of memories» - meaning they can see some person and without any actual memories know if they like/hate/... that person
and when they know things ? – hm, i think that whenever there is a (legitimite) headmaster in Hogwarts, he gets his own portrait and teaches it stuff to help out the next generation of other headmasters, but of course not only that, he tells it other stuff, like secrets and instructions (like Dumbledore did) – so these kind of portraits aren't nothing like e.g. ghosts, just the persons pale hollow image (that can know a lot, and nothing, depending on the creator)

[adorkable]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvvFiZyEyTA
Made me laugh. Harry Potter fans will like. (Not me on the vid, btw)
I remember watching this when it was featured. He's surprisingly almost correct in his lyrics (about Harry's brain being a horcrux, etc.).

but i read (somewhere) that speaking parsel language isn't a dark ability but that it is common that dark wizards know it... (now here's the problem, i lend the book a week ago so i can't look up the part about Ron «speaking» parsel language.... argh, does it say that he mimicked it or what?, can someone qoute it for me; but nevertheless, it could just happen that Ron DOES know parsel... i mean why not... he comes from an old pure blood family and all, but the only problem is that he isn't a powerful wizard and that he just figured out, after all that time, that he can talk parsel, perhaps he's slow, lol)
I can't quote when Ron speaks Parseltongue, but I can say that he only mimicked the language without exactly knowing what he said (he states that he mimics what he heard Harry say to open the Chamber of Secrets). Parseltongue, I believe, is actually associated with the Dark Arts, despite Dumbledore being able to speak it.

[Guy]

I wonder if Harry ever tried talking to his parents in the portrait?

[Cookie MonstAr]

I can't quote when Ron speaks Parseltongue, but I can say that he only mimicked the language without exactly knowing what he said (he states that he mimics what he heard Harry say to open the Chamber of Secrets). Parseltongue, I believe, is actually associated with the Dark Arts, despite Dumbledore being able to speak it.

aha, he mimiced it... oh well:)... and yes, it is a dumb and wierd that he remebred a language that even isn't human!, even if it was just one word
but i'm sure that Dumbledore said sth. like that it wasn't a "bad" ability, that lots of good wizards knew how to talk in parsel, and that it is just prejudiced by the wizard community blah blah

I wonder if Harry ever tried talking to his parents in the portrait?
i don't remeber a portrait of his parents... hm (?), i'm sure there were lots of pictures of them mentioned but a portrait.......... (?)
but also, it doesn't mean that if there was a portrait that it is like the ones in Hogwarts, but that's just my opinion, think there can also be normal portraits and that the Hogwarts ones are under bunch of spells etc.
but then again, who knows... lol
:)

[Guy]

Err... didn't Harry have a portrait of his parents at the end of the first year? Or is that movie nonsense? Argh, I forgot. I was sure Harry saw a picture of his parents somewhere.

[Cookie MonstAr]

Err... didn't Harry have a portrait of his parents at the end of the first year? Or is that movie nonsense? Argh, I forgot. I was sure Harry saw a picture of his parents somewhere.

i think Hagrid gave him like an album with lots of pictures of his mom and dad...


edit: yep, checked it - it was a book with lots of pics that Hagrid made for him

[Mercurius]

...YEEHAAA...

The book was great :Domo

...BUT WHY, WHY,....did she have to kill off Dobby :(

[Milan]

Yeah, Dobby's death was very sad.

[Mercurius]

I always like him :(

anyways.. the book was masterfully, tough the Ending (nineteen years later) felt a little empty to me

[adorkable]

...BUT WHY, WHY,....did she have to kill off Dobby :(
I guess to show that ANYONE was vulnerable to getting killed off. :(

[Mercurius]

NOT Dobby...he was the hottiness...

Anyway...I hope now that EDobby has been playing such an important role in this one...HE'LL RETURN IN THE MOVIES :Domo

[Guy]

Yeah, too bad for Dobby. Rest in peace...

[BamBam]

the dobby part was so well described and so saddening :(

R.I.P. our ( well mine atleast) favourite house elf

[adorkable]

I thought it was very cool of Harry to dig a grave for Dobby without the use of magic. I definitely did not expect Dobby to die.

[BamBam]

yes, harry did the right not using magic. really shows how close dobby was to the harry. and im really happy bellitrix died

[enchidna_happ]

Waaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lupin and Tonks die..... WWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! :(

[vampireheart666]

Yea, Bellatrix was kinda' whore, but she was alright, I was kinda' dissapointed when they had to kill off Lupin and Tonks, I mean come on they just had their first child, and I also thought Snape's death part was a little empty as well, they should have made it much better, since Snape kicks ass, and she should have made the epilouge a bit longer..

[BamBam]

harry dieing and coming alive and the epilouge were the only part of the book i would rate less than 10/10.

tonks and lupin dieing was a big blow. poor teddy...

[vampireheart666]

Yea, it sucks for Teddy, but atleast he has a GF.

I wonder if they'll make a short side story about Albus Severus Potter.

[BamBam]

they as in JKR? i dont think, so but theres probably gonna be lotsssssssss of fan fics

[Mercurius]

they as in JKR? i dont think, so but theres probably gonna be lotsssssssss of fan fics


Yes most likely...

[Jack Swallows]

nothing beats a Hairy Potter.....

http://www.greenbridgepottery.com/beckythrowing.jpg

that is all.

[.Rik-uh-shey]

nothing beats a Hairy Potter.....
http://www.greenbridgepottery.com/beckythrowing.jpg
that is all.

Wow, that failed so hard it made me want to pour hot wax on my cock and scream at it....

[Guy]

Um... ok?? What was that all about?

[adorkable]

It was a picture of someone making a pot (and that person was quite hairy), therefore the phrase "Hairy Potter" was written. Something like that.

[mangaman16]

Lol Jack swallows again :rolleye09 (or jailbird) lol what does that have to do with deathly hallows?I guess he can't help it but anyhow I felt a little sad after reading the book because it was the last books and the kill offs and all but everyday i just forget about it more and more because they are things like anime and manga and other books.I'll probally read it over two years from now if i'm living.

[roostergirl]

As for me snapes death scene is a little disappointing. I'd much rather see a really good fight scene with him and you know who battling each other. Then harry shows up and starts attacking both you know who and snapes. Then you know who fires a shot at harry and snapes runs in and get hit by the shot himself thus saving harry's life. Harry would then feel remorseful and so full of shame when he learns all the truth about how snape sacrifices everything. God yesss, that would have been soo much better than snape lying almost dead and harry near him almost stone like. It just seems so impersonal and it really pissed me off because snapes deserve a much better tragic ending.

Who else deserve a better ending? ... Fred. Now I feel really bad about Fred because he's like the other half of the funny duo. Without him, the story stops being funny. His death scene also needs more depth ... it's barely a page long. He deserves atleast a couple of pages with him fighting and struggling before he dies. Too bad for him! Same goes for Lupin and Tonks (mostly tonks, I don't like lupin much!) :(

Well, I guess that's about all the rantings I can shell out for the last harry potter book. I'd definitely be watching the next potter movies ... mainly for ron ... and the dark malfoy!! Ok, ne last rant, one thing I don't like in this last book is the character of malfoy. His character is such a wuss that it makes me sad and teary just picturing what malfoy will be like in the last potter movie. Well, atleast he's still hot. That's good enough!

[飛雲]

Can anyone explain to me how Darco got Dumbledor's wand?

[roostergirl]

Can anyone explain to me how Darco got Dumbledor's wand?

You mean malfoy? Well if I remember correctly he was with dumbledoor when he dies and the wand just transfer itself to the next master aka malfoy. The wand itself can transfer to a new master if the previous master got defeated. Not sure how I can explain it more clearly but their is a chapter in the last book where it explains it all.

[Mercurius]

While it was Snape who killed Dumbledore...it was MALfoy who defeated and unarmed him already have taken his wand by force...

after the wandless Dumbledore got killed by snape...and so it was actually Malyfoy who was the new master of the wand

Voldemort who didn't know neither understand this assumed that it would be snape who would be the master of the Elder wand at the moment because HE was the ONE WHO KILLED Dumby...the greatest, worst, best, strongest act in Voldemorts eyes...cause to him Only death means true defeat

[CRL]

the thing that disappointe dme most about deathly hallows is that the fight between voldemort *omg the jinx is still on! OMG DEATH EATERS! RUN!!!!!!* and harry was ended with one spell. kinda gay. oh well. lol. ron and hermione have sex and harry and ginny have LOTSA sex. lol. also, ic ant believe how easy nagini dies. omg. i expected like 3 chapters devoted to nagini's death then freaking long bottom slices her. AWWW poor snake. lol. and also i wish luna would have hooked up with neville. that would have been the ultimate pairing. lol.

[adorkable]

Harry's solution to everything: "EXPELLIARMUS!"
Seriously.

[mangaman16]

Yea using expelliarmus in everybook all the time pissed me off.Maybe rowling wanted to make a character that doesn't have to use overstrong evil curses to defeat enemies.But i know there are other non dark arts spells that can be used to attack and in book 7 know cared if you used dark arts or not.I was glad when lupin was quarelling with harry about using shitty spells against deatheaters.He should have used the cruciatus curse more and he should have killed bellatrix in the mansion and tonks may be alive lol.About nagini i would love to see its hed chopped off for killing snape.

[Mercurius]

Ah well..U can't have all the way U like it

[BamBam]

Remember stan figured out Harry was Harry when he used EXPELLIARMUS. Lupin said that the death eaters thing thats his siggy move

[Rhea]

Okay I juat wanna say I loved the book JK Rowling is an absolute legend but I hated, HATED the epilogue. Thought it was cheesy and kinda unnecessary...

Thoughts?

[Neko Kyo]

I think Rowling got tired of writing her own books. The last good one for me was The Goblet of Fire

[Mercurius]

@Kyoku: absolutely disagree with U there...the style of the books indeed changed lot but...the books have aged a lot...

I read The philosopher stone last week, and indeed it is totally different in style that The hallows, but that is also because...11 AND 17 are very different ages.

indeed philosopher is much more kiddie, and much more...magical. But after 7 years...the magical isn't the magical happy world anymore...you get to see the dark side, and the bad side...and u grow up

to me 1 and 2 were the introduction that show all the good and happy things in the world...of magic

3 and 4...start telling there isn't just happiness and happy hopping dwarfs with
pointy hats and pickhammer singing Hee Hoo... Hee hoo

5 is the border between bad-ass and singing dwarfs. Checking out the things we spoke about in 3 and 4

6 and 7 ...Bad-ass is taking over and we want to go back to the singing dwarfs...

too me it's al very balanced and that the books have changed a lot is very normal and has been EVEN NECCESARY (uhm is this spelled right?) to keep the series interesting

[BamBam]

^ great explaining and i totally agree

[Mercurius]

YAYAYAYAYA, the Dutchy cver got released...and boy is it Ass-kicking PWN to everybody's BONE

http://www.harrypotter.nl/media/hp_afbeeldingen/HP7%20NL.jpg

[Cookie MonstAr]

wow... i can't even comment this one.....

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z15/geb_bucket/phew.gif

wow...

[Outlawz]

JK is the most over rated mediocre author to ever set foot on this earth. Her books weren't that good and DH was a pile of trash.

[Daft Punk]

We're all entitled to our own opinions I suppose. I don't think anyone reads HP for the writing though, more for the story which is moderately entertaining. Personally i'd much rather read Gibson or Dickens or Hemmingway, but I think it's rude to say that something people like is not any good, so I refrain from doing so. It just seems to me that you said that to try and make people mad at you. It's the only thing I could see it accomplishing anyway. You should probobly try and be a bit more polite in the way you phrase things.

[Outlawz]

We're all entitled to our own opinions I suppose. I don't think anyone reads HP for the writing though, more for the story which is moderately entertaining. Personally i'd much rather read Gibson or Dickens or Hemmingway, but I think it's rude to say that something people like is not any good, so I refrain from doing soI . It just seems to me that you said that to try and make people mad at you. It's the only thing I could see it accomplishing anyway. You should probobly try and be a bit more polite in the way you phrase things.
It's rude of me to speak my mind because it might hurt other peoples feelings? I'm expressing my honest thoughts about the HP series and it's utter over rated-ness.

[Daft Punk]

It's rude to say it the way you did. You sure did reply fast :/
You could have said it more like "I personally dislike JK Rowling and don't think she's that good of an author." Something more like that y'know?

[Cookie MonstAr]

if you had well-explained reasons on why you don't like her style, i would even consider honoring you with a reply

...but, who cares what you think...





consider yourself pwnd...

*yawns*

*leaves*

[Outlawz]

It's rude to say it the way you did. You sure did reply fast :/
You could have said it more like "I personally dislike JK Rowling and don't think she's that good of an author." Something more like that y'know?

So basically sugar coat my words because the people on this forum cry when there favorite author is criticized?
if you had well-explained reasons on why you don't like her style, i would even consider honoring you with a reply

...but, who cares what you think...





consider yourself pwnd...

*yawns*

*leaves*
She's wrote 7 boring books using an overused plot. Every twist she had was predictable, Voldemort died in the most poorly written fight EVER. Her epiloque was laughable, she had to cover her sorry ass by answering all the Q's she didn't answer on the internet.

[Daft Punk]

I'm saying be nice so that flaming and trolling don't start up.

It really is that simple.

[Outlawz]

I'm saying be nice so that flaming and trolling don't start up.
It really is that simple.
That would be sugar coating my words, which I prefer not to do.

[Daft Punk]

Why do you prefer not to do that?

[Outlawz]

Why do you prefer not to do that?
Because, it doesn't rightfully express my opinion.

[Daft Punk]

So are you saying that to rightfully express your opinion you have to blatantly insult a writer many here respect? That seems like a personal problem to me.

[Outlawz]

So are you saying that to rightfully express your opinion you have to blatantly insult a writer many here respect? That seems like a personal problem to me.
No, saying she's "not my favorite author" would be an understatement, a lie. The word mediocre or hack perfectly sums up JK, it's not nearly as bad as people who go "SHE IZ TEH BEST RIGHTER EVA!!11"

[Daft Punk]

So instead of understating your feelings you opt to anger people who enjoy her writing. Ok, thats agreeable. Doesn't make you look narcissistic or anything.

[Outlawz]

So instead of understating your feelings you opt to anger people who enjoy her writing. Ok, thats agreeable. Doesn't make you look narcissistic or anything.
Your wit is beyond even me.

[Daft Punk]

I do try.

[BamBam]

Outlawz we dont really give shit about people who dislike harry potter and their opinions, Because generally harry potter fans who like the book come here. All daft punk is trying to do is give you some advice which you do NOT have to follow. Be gratefull that after your post daft punk is even trying to help you. and like geb said you should give reasons to your opinions so they matter.

[AzureKite]

Tis was a fine series to read. The epilogue was kinda lame though... Who would name their kid "Albus Severus"? =_=

[analog]

Meh don't be hating. He can think what he wants and voice his opinion, there is nothing wrong with that, nor is their any reason to get worked up about it. It won't change the fact people like the book or not, he is just saying what he thinks. I personally love the Harry Potter books. Not because I think the writing is amazing but I love the story. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions though and they can freely state them all they want, they should state reasons why they like or dislike something and if they do that there should be no reason to bash them.

[Outlawz]

Outlawz we dont really give shit about people who dislike harry potter and their opinions, Because generally harry potter fans who like the book come here. All daft punk is trying to do is give you some advice which you do NOT have to follow. Be gratefull that after your post daft punk is even trying to help you. and like geb said you should give reasons to your opinions so they matter.
Right, because the thread title clearly says every one must love HP.

[Mercurius]

Uhm..Well I can agree with U that U dun like the books (tat's a matter of taste,) I can agree with U that not many people in here WILL agree with U...But I dun agree that the title says that everybody must love HP...

Anyway, since U clearly read the final book (else U wouldn't have known about the final plot) ...Just saying U dun like the books because the 'story is overused is a little bit rubbish ...

I like the books, and yes there a few things of wich anyone says ''...yeah right..'' but mostly the books are just interesting and exciting, and quite funny.

...But what U said about the final Chapter...yes indeed...that one was absolutely Ridiculously unnecesary and stupid

[Daft Punk]

Meh don't be hating. He can think what he wants and voice his opinion, there is nothing wrong with that, nor is their any reason to get worked up about it. It won't change the fact people like the book or not, he is just saying what he thinks. I personally love the Harry Potter books. Not because I think the writing is amazing but I love the story. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions though and they can freely state them all they want, they should state reasons why they like or dislike something and if they do that there should be no reason to bash them.

I wasn't attempting to "bash" him at all. If thats how I came across I sincerely apologize. I just believe that if your going state an opinion, you should be relatively polite about it. People generally tend to hear you out more open-mindedly if you do so anyway, so it's often a plus for your argument. I certainly don't hate Outlawz, our conversation was very fun. I love sarcastic arguments with peers.

[Cookie MonstAr]

Nah, don't worry DP.. Analog didn't mean that you were bashing him.. he was just explaining generally, lol

on the other hand, i might have been arrogant a bit, but just a tinsy winsy bit, just to get the message through

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z15/geb_bucket/goodmood.gif

[Bamboobie]

I just saw this on yahoo.com news.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071020/ap_on_en_ot/books_harry_potter

She was asked by one young fan whether Dumbledore finds "true love."
"Dumbledore is gay," the author responded to gasps and applause.
She then explained that Dumbledore was smitten with rival Gellert Grindelwald, whom he defeated long ago in a battle between good and bad wizards. "Falling in love can blind us to an extent," Rowling said of Dumbledore's feelings, adding that Dumbledore was "horribly, terribly let down."

[Guy]

OMG, so it's true! Dumbledore really is gay! I knew there was something odd about him from the start!

[Cookie MonstAr]

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rofl

hm, i never really thought about it because HP is "primarily" a "children's book"... wow...

[omega255]

great book. admittedly a bit slow in the middle, but the beginning and especially the end were so fast-paced that i read through the last 100 or so pages in a couple of hours-ish. i thought it was a great way of wrapping the loose ends (or most of them) up, and the deathly hallows themselves did not seem to be a concept that was rushed in too quickly.
i did feel there were a bit too many deaths, remus and tonks shouldn't've died and i can't believe dobby was killed off. i think fred was killed off mainly to set up the final weasley moments, such as percy coming back into the family and molly's fight with bellatrix.
the dumbledore story i thought was brilliant- i loved the fact that there were so many references to the first book, such as Grindelwald, sirius' bike, the dragons at gringotts, etc. the revelation that dumbledore was once friends witha dark wizard and obtained the elder wand, and how he managed to set the hallows up everything for harry in the end, as he knew he would eventually die, they were all really well done.
also, i reckon the humour was sacrificed to show that they were living in dark times, where there was no laughter, and it is therefore a pretty dark story of three people fighting a near-invincible baddie.
in the end, a brilliant finish to a brilliant series

and i KNEW she wouldn't kill harry, ron or hermione off!

[InsanesnakeShinigami]

Yeah, at least Dumbledore's not a little boy lover, or else Harry would be experiencing PTSD:face82:

Kinda odd when I found that out anyways :p

[BamBam]

I just saw this on yahoo.com news.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071020/ap_on_en_ot/books_harry_potter

That is quite a shock.

[Kenken]

omg she(the author)'s evil D:

...omg Dumby had private lessons with haryr way too many times D:

[adorkable]

Wow, that's a shocker.
Thanks for the link.

[Helikaon]

When I found that out I was pretty shocked.. I mean im not bashing gays or anything but its just weird that he would be gay.. he seems the least likely to be gay in the whole story.

[Kenken]

i agree, it never occured to me that dumby went that way

and it al so said that he was in love with that dark wizard he defeated in 1945 =O

[adorkable]

I never expected Dumbledore to be gay either.

It makes sense though; all that time with Grindelwald when they were young, now being very fond of Harry and spending much time with him, his obsession with the power of love, why he and McGonagall (sp?) haven't got anything going on and why he put the Marvolo ring on.

[Guy]

Actually, this is getting so cliche now. Now that I think of it, why was I shocked in the first place? I mean, by revealing Dumbledore is gay (hey, she's the author; she could do w/e the hell she wants) will spurn up a huge "wtf" response from the fans for months to come. Otherwise, her books might have been forgotten. (you don't hear that much talk about Potter anymore, at least not where I live)

[Xkavanger]

And that is why they are aimed towards the older audience from the teens and above. I wonder what young children think... "Mummy, what does gay mean?"

Rofl

[FaerieRose]

I've read the HPand The Deathly Hallows twice. I love the whole series and way JKRowling wrote the books. You have to remember that fans of the book grew up as the books progressed and so did the maturity level in each book.

I'm sad that some of my favorite characters died such as Dobby, Lupin, Tonks, Mad Eye Moody, and one character everyone else has forgotten here: Harry's faithful friend- Hedwig died too.

In the last book, I learned to love and hate Snape and Dumbledore but understand why they did the things they did to Harry and Company. Voldermort got what he deserved and then some along with Bellatrix too. I feel sorry for the Weasley family losing Fred.

Whether you love or hate the epilogue that's okay but personally found it to be a delight. I'm just glad that it showed how much things could change and how some things remain the same too(ie.. Malfoy).