Greatest Debate Of All Time!

[DragonLink]

The entire topic of this debate is....

Why do intelligent people make smart debate topics and if they are proved wrong, act like a total dumbass and then flame wars start?


IM sure Its not BIG flames with unnecessary cuss words but you can just tell your being an egotistical arugmentative asshole towards all basically. Almost ALL threads in the debate section lead to it.

Why cant we agree with one another's opinions and accept it. IF someone has SOLID Proof that they are right, Dont make a big deal out of it. Be the better man -_-

By doing this thread, I just made my self a hypocrite ;D :headbang:

POst your views on this :doindadom

[Urahara-sama]

Yeah, debates are kind of pointless if you don't care about anyone else's oppinion.

[haruki_jitsunin]

Yeah, I try to keep an open mind in debates, and I'll admit when I'm wrong, but I do sometimes get a little flustered when the other people make a really good point, especially if I'm the only advocate for my point...

[Pipp-ORK]

I guess they don't like to be wrong. No one does. O_O But yeah, there's no need to start bashing each other. That only leads to the thread being locked and a member getting banned.

[ssjharsh]

hey.. its easy to say "let's do it" but we definitely don't try hard enough to keep to the that rule

[Darren337]

agreed... which is why i stay out of the debates for the most part. ive given up on trying to reason with people in general. then again, those that show reason deserve to be shown reason, and so i make any and all accomodations for those select few.

[DragonLink]

Agreed also.

Im planning on staying out of debate section all because of idiots who think they are all superior to everyone else and will mass flame you if you do even the littliest thing. And the worse thing is, is if hes popular, he will get everyone else to team against you and then the group of people end up hating you and then they refer you to be banned and BAM!

[Lunar]

well i dont like debates.. but not saying that smart people make dumb topics or that... but people who do debates want to debate about things they disagree about this and that... or thinkgs its wrong..

YES i do agree that people should get along and stop flaming and such.. but people who spend there time in the debate section.. writing good reason.. maybe u shouldnt call them idiots

and to the post ^ there....

not all people in the debate section are not really idiots.. they just type what they think and such...

[haruki_jitsunin]

Agreed also.

Im planning on staying out of debate section all because of idiots who think they are all superior to everyone else

Wow, way to punch everyone in the debate section in the face by calling them an idiot...

Isn't this what you were refering to... people that don't care what other peole have to say... way to prove your point by calling them an idiot...

[DragonLink]

Wow, way to punch everyone in the debate section in the face by calling them an idiot...

Isn't this what you were refering to... people that don't care what other peole have to say... way to prove your point by calling them an idiot...


well Im sorry for not stating specifically, but its not EVERYONE in the debate section, just a certain group of individuals. Sorry again

Also I do believe I never said EVERYONE in the debate section was an "Dudes"
as for lunar's thing about "idiots" I shall call them "Dudes"

and no the entire point is theres people who over react if they are wrong aka the "Dudes" I speak of... Im not stating any names, and I dont say EVERYTHING in the debate section is. So far I have 3 people in my book that I classify as "Dudes" aka "the point of this thread"

If you read carefully, Its not that I dont care what they have to say, its just how they react if proven wrong, wrong facts, etc etc.

Sorry for the misunderstanding tho

[cetamora]

This is very fun cuz I looked in the trash bin here and I saw a thread that discussed who was best, man or woman. The funny thing was that on the first page everyone was like:
- Oh so thats your opinion how intresting could you tell me more?
- Yea sure m8, I have very sure ground 4 this blablabla...

and then I jumped 2 pages forwad and the posts where like this.
- YOU MUST BE THE STUPIDEST MOTHERFUKKER EVVER LIVED HELL I WAAN KILL YOU
- WHAT YOU BLAMING ME YOU SON OF A ***** SCREW YOU
-BLRPDS

he funny to see how the very serious discussion from the beggining went totaly amok. It's a strange phenomenia, dunno why

[DragonLink]

lol
Its a DIsease!!!

[Sahiden]

I believe I requested that one shut down because of that reason...

Flaming is a very nessecary something, as it portrays a person's psychological profile, I can make a very good analysis out of flames.
Which also is the reason why I don't do it myself.

No really, flaming is a very annoying thing, it only says something about the person himself. Not about someone else. It also isn't considered as a valid point, nor does it have any debative value...
So in any means, flaming is only making yourself look bad. It can be seen as an act of immaturity or as an act of incapability.

I've been here long enough to say this: I know there have been flames over the more personal sensitive debates, but seen overally, the people here are all really good people, debating isn't a pain on this forum. Tihs probably explains why there are more than 3 debates listed here as well.

[ningo]

Surely the point of a debate is to argue your point of view. Someone may not like someone else's point of view, but if it is a debate, that person has a right to hold that belief. Example; most people would not agree with a racist, but racism is an opinion and so in the setting of a debate is as valid as any other opinion. A person is also within their rights to stick steadfastly to that belief, regardless of how water tight you believe your argument to be. Flame wars in a debate generally start when someone takes exception to that viewpoint goes from making reasonable counter-arguments to pointedly personal insults. This is frequently by someone who believes themselves to be in the right i.e. if previously mentioned racist were to speak out about his/her beliefs, someone calling them a stupid racist ******. In a debate there is no wrong opinion, only a poorly argued one.

[Polygon]

I agree some people just won't accept your opinion.

[Lunar]

Surely the point of a debate is to argue your point of view. Someone may not like someone else's point of view, but if it is a debate, that person has a right to hold that belief. Example; most people would not agree with a racist, but racism is an opinion and so in the setting of a debate is as valid as any other opinion. A person is also within their rights to stick steadfastly to that belief, regardless of how water tight you believe your argument to be. Flame wars in a debate generally start when someone takes exception to that viewpoint goes from making reasonable counter-arguments to pointedly personal insults. This is frequently by someone who believes themselves to be in the right i.e. if previously mentioned racist were to speak out about his/her beliefs, someone calling them a stupid racist ******. In a debate there is no wrong opinion, only a poorly argued one.

well agreed there ^^

[DragonLink]

Surely the point of a debate is to argue your point of view. Someone may not like someone else's point of view, but if it is a debate, that person has a right to hold that belief. Example; most people would not agree with a racist, but racism is an opinion and so in the setting of a debate is as valid as any other opinion. A person is also within their rights to stick steadfastly to that belief, regardless of how water tight you believe your argument to be. Flame wars in a debate generally start when someone takes exception to that viewpoint goes from making reasonable counter-arguments to pointedly personal insults. This is frequently by someone who believes themselves to be in the right i.e. if previously mentioned racist were to speak out about his/her beliefs, someone calling them a stupid racist ******. In a debate there is no wrong opinion, only a poorly argued one.


So true but then theres people who blatantly shout out cuss words in anger knowing theres nothing else they can do with out hurting them selves.
And theres people who get proved wrong, Like i.e Someone says the name of the book is "Ryan Is Awesome" And then someone finds out its actually "Ryan Is God" and proves the other guy wrong with actual proof, they freak out and defend there "Mistakened Fact" Repeatedly even tho theres solid evidence he is wrong.

[Devonian]

Indeed, but when some one freaks out they aren't fullt in their normal personality anymore and lose most of their ability to think clearly for the duration of that first post into a flame war, and then they look back at it and think my that was stupid of me. Though by then it is too late, because they now caused the person they flamed into defensive mode which has the same effect as the flame causing point. So you see once begun it is a vicious downward spiral, an evil chain reaction of sorts. As far as the phenaminon is concerned I think it is because as people we invest so much time into the oppinions and beliefs we collect. That it becomes part of our everyday system our normal reality, and when they are torn asunder be a good argument with solid evidence that is mostly iron clad. It has the same affect as say weaking someone from the matrix in all tose matrix movies, and since we as people tend to feel some thing is wrong at the extremes go into a fury of sorts (hehe vampire reference sorry.) in which we become cloudy in thought and action not knowing what we are doing. Or maybe people are just vindictive by nature, but above is my theory and i know i didn't supply enough evidence so it would easily be shoot down. Also it id very hard for someone to change heavily entrenched beliefs like religeon or lack threof for others,and family values are tough to let be altered, and this must cause a lot f flaming as well. You can tell that this is some wierd sociological viewpoint, and I appoligize for that. It's just I took my Sociology Mid-Term today and i'm not out of that mode yet. Anyhow those are my thoeries on flaming and flame wars disprove em if you want to i know they're weak arguments, but i won't flame because of them. :whatevah: :rolleyes:

[DragonLink]

Indeed, but when some one freaks out they aren't fullt in their normal personality anymore and lose most of their ability to think clearly for the duration of that first post into a flame war, and then they look back at it and think my that was stupid of me. Though by then it is too late, because they now caused the person they flamed into defensive mode which has the same effect as the flame causing point. So you see once begun it is a vicious downward spiral, an evil chain reaction of sorts. As far as the phenaminon is concerned I think it is because as people we invest so much time into the oppinions and beliefs we collect. That it becomes part of our everyday system our normal reality, and when they are torn asunder be a good argument with solid evidence that is mostly iron clad. It has the same affect as say weaking someone from the matrix in all tose matrix movies, and since we as people tend to feel some thing is wrong at the extremes go into a fury of sorts (hehe vampire reference sorry.) in which we become cloudy in thought and action not knowing what we are doing. Or maybe people are just vindictive by nature, but above is my theory and i know i didn't supply enough evidence so it would easily be shoot down. Also it id very hard for someone to change heavily entrenched beliefs like religeon or lack threof for others,and family values are tough to let be altered, and this must cause a lot f flaming as well. You can tell that this is some wierd sociological viewpoint, and I appoligize for that. It's just I took my Sociology Mid-Term today and i'm not out of that mode yet. Anyhow those are my thoeries on flaming and flame wars disprove em if you want to i know they're weak arguments, but i won't flame because of them. :whatevah: :rolleyes:


Lol no offense to you but focus on spelling instead of using nice vocabulary =P But I agree totally with you. People burst into rage and instantly there IQ drops Many points and then everyone starts hating them and BAM! Banned!

[Sahiden]

Lol no offense to you but focus on spelling instead of using nice vocabulary =P But I agree totally with you. People burst into rage and instantly there IQ drops Many points and then everyone starts hating them and BAM! Banned!

Maybe you could focus on spelling too... :)

[DragonLink]

Maybe you could focus on spelling too... :)


I have perfect spelling, the only time my words dont make sense is if I accidently add a space in between the words

If you DO find a word mispelled, Tell me. I RARELY mispell.

I am a godly speller!

[blazedsouls]

i dont care about debates i just post in random threads

[cetamora]

Aw man, you guys are getting off-topic here.

I have one tip. Think twice or thrice before posting threads that there isn't straight answer but with very controversial content. Subject in threads that doesn't matters so much often turns into spamming threads and the "Big Deal" threads often turns into flame threads, if the people doesn't respect the rulz.

[Lethe]

um, whats the topic in the first place?

[Sandal Hat]

The entire topic of this debate is....

Why do intelligent people make smart debate topics and if they are proved wrong, act like a total dumbass and then flame wars start?


IM sure Its not BIG flames with unnecessary cuss words but you can just tell your being an egotistical arugmentative asshole towards all basically. Almost ALL threads in the debate section lead to it.

POst your views on this :doindadomI don't think spelling matter much on forums unless people can't tell at all what you say but, you spelled post POst and you argumentative is spelled wrong.

Edit: Ofcourse, i didn't mean you spelled post wrong you just capitilized the O. The same way i didn't capitilize all of the i's in this sentence

[DragonLink]

I don't think spelling matter much on forums unless people can't tell at all what you say but, you spelled post POst and you argumentative is spelled wrong.


meh

Well spelling matters if someone mispells almost every other word. Then it becomes a problem.

Just correcting someone does nothing wrong, and I didnt mispell post, I simply capitalized the o on accident. Its not even really spelling at all, more of grammar but grammar is never needed nowadays unless you refer to the famous phrase

I helped my uncle jack off the horse.
I helped my Uncle Jack off the horse.

or something like that.

[roach654]

we cannot agree with some one elses opinions all the time thats why were all diffrent and why we react difrent

sinserly roach

[DragonLink]

we cannot agree with some one elses opinions all the time thats why were all diffrent and why we react difrent

sinserly roach
And? We know that... But people need to learn to act mature about others opinions and not overreact. We CAN agree with there opinions because its easy to do, we KNOW its not a fact, WE KNOW they are wrong(or right) but why must we flip out about either answer?