Aliens, do they exist?

[Sleven]

I just overheard two girls in one of my classes arguing alot about this and i thought i'd ask you people.

It's always been pretty straight forward for me, i think they exist somewhere, with all the planets and galaxy's and what not.

Any other opinions?


If you just think i'm a nutcase.

Well your right.

:eek13:

[Donut]

Some other lifeform has to exist somewhere else in the universe than the earth. I'm certain of it...

[Pyramus]

sure, I beleive that other life could exist! But when people think of aliens, they think that they are all advanced with hyperspace spaceships and the like! Nah! Some aliens may still be in their 'prehistoric' era of their world!

Also, I heard that a probe of ours that we sent up to mars was looking for water! They claimed that if there was no water source, no aliens could be living! WTF!? Since when did aliens have to drink water? Or even breathe? They could have completely different bodily functions to anything on our planet!

[Sleven]

^ Well in scientists eyes for life to be supported, you'd need water.

Although sometimes you probably have to look a bit deeper when you look into space. As you said, Aliens if they exist could be completley different in their genetics and stuff. They may not even need water.

lol. Yeah, i'd just be happy if one of our probes took some pictures of some Alien cavemen sitting around a camp fire.

Then atleast we know for sure that it is possible.

[Tobi]

I believe we will find minature organisms on other planets that would be considered "aliens" but I don't believe we will find or see anything like E.T or Alien, Predator or any human sized alien.

[JJAB91]

I believe we will find minature organisms on other planets that would be considered "aliens" but I don't believe we will find or see anything like E.T or Alien, Predator or any human sized alien.
Or atleast not in this century you never know.

[cyberfields]

well you got to do the math... there is billions of stars in this one galaxy... there are billions of galaxies with billions of stars in them.... the odds are that there are lifeforms on other planets... there 2 reasons they haven't contacted us yet. one: they are that technologly advanced. two: they are so advanced that do not want to soil their hands with such a violent race as us...

[JJAB91]

Or it could also be that they havent found us yet. You have to remember space is massive it might take thousands of years before were found.

[Tobi]

Or it could also be that they havent found us yet. You have to remember space is massive it might take thousands of years before were found.

But we'd never know in our lifetime anyway, we'd be long dead by then, all these alien enthusiasts will be dead before any aliens will be uncovered and dedicated their whole life to search for something that won't be seen for thousands of years.

[granamonkey]

If you mean things like aliens from movie and dudes w/ UFO's, maybe they exist (sentient life). We already found some fossilized bacteria, which is considered an extraterrestrial, or alien! I think there are beasties out there (like some alien form of wolf, large cat, or reptile ect ect), but I dont know about aliens flying around in mother ships. It would be cool though.

[cyberfields]

god... i wish they would take me away from this place... but true that they might not have reached us yet... yet... i do believe that some might have developed systems of faster travel to get across the universe faster....

[Neko Bam]

Aliens as in unearthern life: Yes
Aliens as in creeps with huge heads, laserguns and 'take me to your leader': NO EFFIN' WAY

[Dr. Walker]

Aliens as in unearthern life: Yes
Aliens as in creeps with huge heads, laserguns and 'take me to your leader': NO EFFIN' WAY

The universe is a pretty ****ing big place. Can you really say "NO EFFIN WAY" for 100% sure?

[malfuncti0n]

Well for starters, how can this be a debate? This is something that just can not be debated, it's just like trying to debate the existence of a god, it just can't happen. Neither side can prove or disprove the other. Period.

As for my personal opinion though, no i do not believe in organic alien lifeforms, i have no reason to.

[Sleven]

^ Well indeed, but people still debate the god topic.

It is fun to speculate though.

Apparently we have already found organic lifeforms on a rock they got from mars, or something.

I might be wrong, but i thought that was cool.

[JJAB91]

Yeah probes sent to Mars have already discovered permafrost deep in the ground that may harbor microscopic life. And if life is discovered that could change the way we see the Universe forever.

[Klavier Gavin]

I believe there's life outside planet earth. Aliens are not always things you see in movies, big heads and holding laser guns.

I saw this while doing a search on extraterrestrial life and here's something I've found. It could get boring though, no pictures and such.

Information on ET (http://blog.xydating.com/does-the-life-outside-earth-exist/)

[Saithe]

There is life on other planets, at least microscopic lifeforms from our probes...However, I believe that there is bound to be some decent life forms somewhere (I'm personally hoping for some kind of bad-ass whale thing to be found on Europa).

[Nowitzki]

Amino Acids, proteins, and other nutrients/compounds of that nature have been found floating around on meteorites. The fact that these basic necessities of human life, as well as ice on Mars makes me believe there is some form of life. For all we know, this life could consist of only prokaryotic organisms, which have only begun to realize their existence. After millions of years, maybe these organisms will evolve, and maybe they won't, we may never know. As far as "ET" and those type of aliens go, I highly doubt we will experience anything of that nature in our lifetimes.

[Guy]

I used to be extremely skeptical about the existence of aliens. Now however, I think it's possible that there are some very minor and small unicellular organisms somewhere out in our universe.

But for the most part... who cares? What will discovering aliens as small as bacteria do for us? Will it end all wars? Will it cure all diseases? Will it prevent all crimes? As for uber intelligent species that are light years ahead of us... get a grip. I really dont' give a sh*t about them. Let them try and conquer us... crossing several light years of gap. Nothing can be faster than the speed of light, so we'll never have to worry about these super intelligent beings that live billions of light years away.

It amuses me that there are programs funding so much money in finding life out there. I think we need to find intelligent life on Earth first before finding intelligent life out there.

[Daft Punk]

Logically, assuming the universe is infinite, there are other life-forms. Take into account that in an infinite amount of space, there can logically be an infinite number of possibilities, therefore anything is probable.

/bsanswersftw

[Habanero]

crossing several light years of gap. Nothing can be faster than the speed of light, so we'll never have to worry about these super intelligent beings that live billions of light years away.

The thing is, if they're super intelligent and advanced, distance won't mean nothing to them. You don't have to go fast if you bend the time-space and reduce the distance.

Yet, if they're intelligent enough to do that, they're probably also smart enough to not show their faces to humans. We're pretty superstitious and barbaric race afterall... Who'd like to co-operate with a bunch like that? :p

[cyberfields]

yea time and distance will prolly be nothing to them... wormholes... and such...and for those of you who say that nothing can travel at the speed of light you would be wrong.... there are things called tacheons... entities traveling faster than the speed of light already in motion...

[KruZnik47]

well i dont know if they exist but if they do it sure beats being the only ones in this world :P best way to find out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neoUi4poCXI

[BleachOD]

Personally, I think it's kind of narcissistic, to think that we are the only ones in the entire Universe. Just look at all the diverse life on this planet alone. I don't think God (Or whatever you want to call him) said...I will give this one planet life, and the rest will be just lights. So yeah I do believe we are not the only planet that has life.

[Guy]

The thing is, if they're super intelligent and advanced, distance won't mean nothing to them. You don't have to go fast if you bend the time-space and reduce the distance.
Yet, if they're intelligent enough to do that, they're probably also smart enough to not show their faces to humans. We're pretty superstitious and barbaric race afterall... Who'd like to co-operate with a bunch like that? :p

I ain't a smartie when it comes to astronomy... so correct me if I'm wrong. The only way for them to cross time-space and reduce the distance that I know of is through a wormhole. Well, from what I've heard, you'll need a huge mass of energy to do that. I think we'll notice something strange in our galaxy if that ever happens... (and besides, can wormholes really reduce several billion light years of distance that much? I'm quite questionable on that one myself. One other thing... we're not truly sure if they exist... right?)

But yes, we are a superstitious and barbaric race after all. If they do exist, they certainly have a good reason to avoid us.

[warp:routine]

A note on wormholes...

the amount of energy required is massive, unimaginable. Think of the force that creates a black hole, it simply creates an area of space that exponentially increases density until it reaches a quantum singularity.. in laymens terms, a funnel to nowhere.

A wormhole would require something like 10 ^ 285,000 times the force of supernova. (that number guessed by gys like steven hawking)

I think we would see something in space we couldnt explain, something unlike a black hole and unlike anything else in known space.

Well guess what, we have one of those. Space is typically filled with matter and anti-matter. Astrologists, last year, found a large area of space that contains nothing, absolutly nothing, no matter, no anti-matter, no energy or anything.

We have no explanation for this...

What do you think? Aliens? Wormhole residue? Actual wormhole?

P.S. dont believe me? clickie: http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/viewnews.php?id=103877

[Vampyrelord]

Read the RULES (http://forums.bleachportal.net/showthread.php?t=18692).

Posting a simple one, two or three line remark saying "yeah, course they exist" without any further evidence or argument (like the SIX I have just deleted) is NOT debating and the next person to do so will be punished.

[warp:routine]

Since my post got deleted I will re-state one of my ideas on this... but with greater detail and references this time...

Alien: Dissimilar, inconsistent, or opposed, as in nature
Alien: Belonging to, characteristic of, or constituting another and very different place


Discarding the word 'nature' in the first definition, as nature generaly does not apply to the universe as a whole, these seem to define 'alien' as something strange, something different that does not fit in with the whole scene. Based on this thought, I would say that we, as a planet, are the aliens from our current knowledge of the universe.

If in all of the known universe, we are the only planet that sustains life, that sets us apart, makes us alien, to the rest of the known universe.

This certainly does not prove or disprove the existence of life elsewhere in the universe, but I thought it was a very interesting philosophical view of the way we think about ourselves.

In essence aliens do exist because, in the entirety of our knowledge of space, we are the only living planet.



~There, if you delete my post again, fine, I'll just leave it alone~
~p.s. im not poking the bear with a stick, i really do believe that this is pertinent to the debate. if its really not, so be it~

[Habanero]

I ain't a smartie when it comes to astronomy... so correct me if I'm wrong. The only way for them to cross time-space and reduce the distance that I know of is through a wormhole. Well, from what I've heard, you'll need a huge mass of energy to do that. I think we'll notice something strange in our galaxy if that ever happens...

Yep, it demands a ridiculous amount of energy. About as much as our sun produces during its lifespan (10 billion yrs.) is the newest estimate I think.

But them being super intelligent, they just might work around it somehow. Maybe by using something like zero-point energy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_point_energy)...? Or maybe they figure out something else. Super intelligent as they are :)

[Reco]

Aleins do exist.They might even exist in this solar system. Yes, on one of Jupiters moons there might be life. The moon is called Europa. It is covered in ice and is stationed in between a larger moon and Jupiter. When it passes by the large moon, the gravataional pull makes the ice shift. When they large moon leaves, the ice shifts back because of the pull of Jupiters gravity. This shifting could create a ocean under the ice. Marine creatures could be in this ocean.

[Lincoln1587]

It's foolish to think that there is no other life out there. With all of the billions of planets that have the potential to support life, I don't think its possible that none of them could have life on them, not necessarily intelligent life. The odds of intelligent life being out there are much smaller, but still a possibility..

[SaberBlade]

Of course. It's mankind's massive ego and small mind that allows us to believe that there is no other life in the galaxy. I would be deeply ashamed of humanity if we turned out to be the smartest life in the universe.

[malfuncti0n]

It's mankind's massive ego and small mind that allows us to believe that there is no other life in the galaxy.
Actually its the lack of evidence, but, meh same difference i suppose, right? :rolleye09

[Habanero]

Actually its the lack of evidence, but, meh same difference i suppose, right? :rolleye09

Lack of evidence has never been a problem for mankind though... Quite a lot of people seem quite certain about this God thingy... :whatevah:

The fact is, we've barely got outside the surface of our planet and learnt to use electromagnetism in our favor during the last 50 years. 50 years or even 50 000 years does not even compare to an eye-blink in the timescale of the universe. In addition, our solar system happens to be on the outskirts of Milky Way, so for our first sent message to reach the center of our own galaxy is gonna take a few hundred thousand years. I wouldn't be expecting evidences of other intelligent life anytime soon...

I'm quite positive that there are other lifeforms, also intelligent, out there somewhere. It's just not very likely that they're close enough for us to reach them untill we attain *enormous* scientific advancement.

People usually fail to wrap their minds around the concept of the universe. They're being told it is endless and yet they do not understand the sheer vastness of it. It's kinda sad to think that if someone ever receives the message we sent into space in the 40/50's, we already might have ceased to exist billions of years ago and all that is left of humanity are some lonely bursts of electromagnetic radiation carrying our hope to meet someone else...

[crs010]

I feel area 51 just is one of the many big secrets the 20th century has hidden from us and the many reported sitings of ufos just tends to make me believe that they do exist and that they are more real then we expect and probably they have been here a couple of times but they want their identity hidden and must have struck a deal with the American government

[Kimochi]

some say have some say nope.
what do people know? i mean, seeing is believing.
people make films about it, we tend to believe. but have you actually seen it? i haven't, so i don't believe it but if i have, i would.
people make documentaries and when we watch it we tend to believe but is it real?
like how real is reality show? i'm not saying there is or there isn't but you got to see it to believe it.

[cappy3]

My theory is that yes they do exist. ...But if will be highly unlikely that they will ever get to us or us get to them. This is because going light speed is still pretty slow when you think about how big the universe is. Also going the light speed there is no way you could live. This is because the theory of going light speed is that you get stretched infenetaly long and your mass is infenetaly heavy. so it would be impossible to go that fast without dieing.

[mochimochil3]

Well I mean we can't be the only ones in this whole dang universe. No, I don't believe in these glowy big-headed creatures with large eyes and walk around stark naked in their flying saucers...but I do believe there are other forms of life out there...say...hmmm...a planet full of talking dogs...=D

[Mercurius]

Undoubtely there are ''aliens''...

Here on earth or anywhere in our solarsystem? ...no, I doubt that nor do I believe it, Mars is the only planet in oursystem with an atmosphere, however it surface is not possible to live on yet...it's currently on about the same evolution as the earth was 5.000.000.000 years ago...the beginning. All the other planets in out system are either to cold or to hot for life...unless there are any creatures that can live without an atmosphere an a 1000 degrees surface heat, wich i highly doubt


Tough possibilities are higly likely for life existing on planets in other systems. I mean the universe is pretty big...I don't thing we are on the only planet that has the possibility for life

[Aelix]

A lot of people and scientists keep saying that life isnt possible in planets too cold or too hot and all that but why not?

Seriously, we know next to nothing about life outside our planet except that we havent found it (yet). I was once watching a documentary on alien movies and one man made the point that most of our aliens are, ironically, more human than we think.

Life on our planet evolved to fit the ecosystems on this planet. So wouldnt life on other planets evolve to fit teh ecosystems on the other planets?

the possibility that aliens exist is very high, but to me the possibility they will have arms, hands, hands, feet, eyes and other humanoid charicteristics.(please excuse my spelling)

[ishi-chan]

Yep, aliens exist. The American government just tries to cover it up >.>;

Edit: Sorry, I can't come up with a better explanation

[Ice Prince]

I've always believed we have other life in the universe. It's far too big for us to be the only planet with life on our small planet.