Who is the weakest Vice Captains:confused: [Archive]

JamesThePhox

11-03-2005, 11:35 PM

*Please make your Reponses meaningful and thought ful, thank you*

We can't really judge them yet.

People think Nanao is weak because she carries around a book or because she got overcome by Yama-jii's Reiatsu. Oomaeda, the 1st Division Vice Captain, and Isane were all pitted against Ichigo, who's strength is greater than the Soukyoku itself, so I wouldn't be surprised that they *looked weak*. Nemu is constantly attacked by her Captain, who should overall be stronger than her anyways, so people think she's weak.

However, If you judge the Vice Captains that we've actually seen them fight, we can only really judge Renji, who now has the ability to use Hihiou Zabimaru, so he's obviously not the weakest Vice Captain.

So for now, we really can't say for sure. I think all of them are good.

Night Sades

11-04-2005, 06:55 AM

I agree. Also, it has been mentioned that attaining the rank of seated member is difficult already (see div. 9), and there are differences in the amount of fighting ability among the divisions. Thus a vice-captain in one division may be significantly weaker than a calafare member of another.

Or am I stating the obvious?

captain_soifon

11-04-2005, 07:16 AM

i think soi fong should get a new vc..his fat how can he be silent and fast --;;..but i think nemu would be the weakest

Hits

11-04-2005, 07:18 AM

I don't think Nanao or Nemu should be conceived as weak. In the last episode, Nanao was able to keep up with the two captain's flashsteps. And hell yes, she has a zanpakuto. Why else would she become a VC if she doesn't know how to fight? We haven't seen her fight so no need to judge but.....I was quite dissapointed how weak the 1st division VC was. I would think that he would be at captain level because his commander is the strongest shinigami in gotei 13. The 2nd division and 4th are also weak in combat but we aren't really too sure because they were up against Ichigo which really wasn't fair. I think anyone of the VC's except for Renji would've suffered the same fate as the three.

captain_soifon

11-04-2005, 07:22 AM

who is Marechiyo ?
Edit: Why is my post above yours?

Silfrsyn

11-04-2005, 07:24 AM

either Marechiyo or Isane.

uh_yea

11-04-2005, 07:27 AM

meh isane's combat skills might suck but she's in the squad where they heal not fight. So she doesn't really count to my opinion, even though she has a sword.

sith29

11-04-2005, 09:27 AM

Probaly Soi fongs VC is the weakest. his shikkai is lame. And the second one would be mayuris VC.

T_Ichigo

11-04-2005, 12:20 PM

Well I doubt that nanao-chan is the weakest, we haven't seem her techniques yet and I wonder what she would do when Yama-ji was stepping frame to Ukitake and Shunsui .. you know when she said " there's only one thing that I can do ..", so I doubt that's her. But Hisagi ! HAHA !!! he seems very WEAK !!! he lost to a seat from Zaraki's divsion LOL!! I'm not so suprised either .. Tousen is weak to .. ^^ ..... AHAHAHAHA.

Hits

11-04-2005, 04:00 PM

wasnt hisagi the top stupid of his year of shinigami academy or w.e?

sith29

11-04-2005, 08:22 PM

Yeah he was the one who get renji, hinamori and Kira to Living world for practice.

Jinx20

11-04-2005, 09:01 PM

I think it a toss up between Nemu and Isane, prob Nemu, all shes used for is to hold an opponent and get slashed? plus no zanpaktou??

SmallKid57

11-05-2005, 12:30 AM

i say its...

Nemu
1. Mayuri is too mean to teach her anything or give her a soulslayer
2. She doesn't have the will to fight (i think)
3. She's too kind
4. She's not exactly blasting with energy

:headbang: u dont see nemu doing that in the series do u? point made, case closed

* J k y

11-05-2005, 12:42 AM

nano 8th vc is weak..lol

Momo

11-05-2005, 01:08 AM

u mean nanao-chan? lol she doesn't have a Zanpakuto right...? only a big book that she is carrying everywhere

T_Ichigo

11-05-2005, 01:40 AM

nano 8th vc is weak..lol

How could you say that, when you haven't seen a bit of her skillz ? think after she's a VC, is it really that easy to obtain the VC status ? Ichimaru Gin used to be a VC ..
and apropos of her zanpaktou, every shinigami should owns one, Nanao-chan may has a special zanpaktou which we anime viewer haven't seen yet.
Once again, Hisagi is still the one VC who's the weakest and that has been proved, he lost to a seat of Zaraki's divsion. And the reason that he lead the "hollow-kill practising" is maybe that he's strong ENOUGH to lead them, nothing is dangerous as long as there's not any Kuji-hollows, the two shingami aside Hisagi
were leading them to right ? but that doesn't proves a shit that they're strong ..
the kuji-hollow which first appeared killed them easily as if they were ants ...
:LOL:

I know that there are admirers of Hisagi, and I to be honestly he's pretty cool, but .. but ... just realize the truth, he's a weaky duck ^^

uryuu

11-05-2005, 03:22 AM

i think none of them is weak because vice-captain seat is no easy seat for any death gods...

Shinomori

11-05-2005, 03:25 AM

Probably Ohmaeda (2nd divi VC). His Shikai Zanpaku-to got shattered by Ichigo's bare hand. I mean, that's really weak.

Qc0Jh1axT

11-05-2005, 03:49 AM

I don't know... probably depends on what kind of 'weak' we are talking about. Battle-wise, probably Isane, because she's in the Healing Division (4th). But she's probably the strongest among Vice-Captains if we're talking about Healing Powers. By the way..there's a part in the manga where the 3rd officer in 4th Division said because he's the weakest of all the 3rd officers in the 13 Divisions, he has to call all the other 3rd officers "-sama". It was very funny in the manga.

wayso

11-05-2005, 05:29 AM

Didn't hisagi lose because the other guy used that special technique which sucked away his spirit power. So he lost to a cheap technique... Doesn't really say he's weak.

Nightmare

11-05-2005, 06:54 AM

Weakest in what aspect?

In battle prowess, most likely Isane. She is in 4th division because she has barely any battlefield capability, so she is in a medical squad that specilize in healing arts.

But when it comes to healing arts or demon magic, I bet Isane is high up there.

T_Ichigo

11-05-2005, 01:20 PM

Didn't hisagi lose because the other guy used that special technique which sucked away his spirit power. So he lost to a cheap technique... Doesn't really say he's weak.

A captain wouldn't be affected by that "cheap" technique, Hisagi would dodge that technique if he was strong, I think that a VC like Abarai would dodge that "cheap" technique..
and By the way, I agree with you guys about that fatty worthless boy who's Soi Fongs VC .. I didn't noticed him when we talked about this thread, because he's so weak and I really don't have his name in my head .. lol
:biggrinki

Sandal Hat

11-05-2005, 02:45 PM

Not all asauchi's are swords in their regular forms, Nanao's soul slayer is most likely her book especially since she never goes anywhere without it. I also do not think that shunsui would pick a weak vice-captain. IMO Hisagi is one of the higher up captains, I couldnt see many vice captains beating Yumichika's soul slayer ability. In fact, Hisagi was totally unprepared for that fight considering Yumichika's soul slayer true ability had not been revealed yet and how do you know if the technique is one you can easily dodge or dodge at all? Nemu is most likely the weakest VC even though we don't get to see much of her.

T_Ichigo

11-05-2005, 04:56 PM

It's his fault if he was unprepared ... it's a BATTLE, you just have to be prepared during a battle .. if that's Hisagi's excuse then I think that's a BAD excuse one ..
I think that one can dodge such a technique because it's a Seat's techinque, with other words .. technique at their levels ... VC and other captains should be able to dodge it somehow ..

another shinigami: how did you lose to a seat of Zaraki's division ?!?!!

Hisagi: I wasn't prepared !

another shinigami: ...... well .. ok

well I myself wouldn't state that excuse ..

Sandal Hat

11-05-2005, 05:22 PM

sith29

11-05-2005, 10:29 PM

You right man. Yumichika is probably stronger with his true shikkai or equal to Ikaku. and Ikaku the 3 rd seat was fighting equally with komamuras VC. if they were in other division those two would probaly be VC by now.

MissShizuka

11-06-2005, 03:52 AM

Hisagi isn't weak... He was top student at the acadamy(sp?) and Yumichika's Shikai is cheap!

Sandal Hat

11-06-2005, 04:13 AM

I think Yumichika, Soi Fong, and Kira have the cheapest shikai's in all of Soul Society

captain_soifon

11-06-2005, 07:45 AM

kiras shikai is okay but nothing extraordinary

sniperz

11-06-2005, 09:20 AM

its cheating not probably weak ;)

T_Ichigo

11-06-2005, 01:32 PM

What do you mean lose to a seat of Zaraki's division? The 11th division is regarded to having the strongest members hell, Yumichika could maybe be a VC for any other division and he could probably beat Ikkaku if Zaraki let his use his shikai ability

Edit: One example is Komamura's vice captain, he left the 11th division because he couldn't make vice captain there but he made it in Komamura's division

Edit: One example is Komamura's vice captain, he left the 11th division because he couldn't make vice captain there but he made it in Komamura's division

is that true ? what episode can I see that path ?

Crim

11-06-2005, 02:35 PM

but to be fair he might be able to beet yachiru, its just that kenpachi wouldnt let him have it anyway. i dont think the fat guy is the weakest, because hes in soi fongs police division thing so he must be strong to do that job. imo its probably (not including 13th squad) the 4th squad vc, only out of combat ability though

asukasun

11-06-2005, 04:24 PM

I don´t give a option about Vize Captains were I haven´t seen the power yet. But I don´t think that Nanao is the weakest.

I think Omaeda is the weakest because he doesn´t seem to be so smart and his Zanpakutou isn´t that strong. But know knows :winking56

silverwolf801

11-06-2005, 04:30 PM

The whole Vice Captain thing is kind of decisive but maybe Nano Chan has some secret powers.

Saori

11-07-2005, 11:01 PM

I get the impression that...... Mayuri's VC... what's her name... Nemu??? Anyways, she, Hinamori, and Nanao don't look that strong, but then again....

sith29

11-07-2005, 11:25 PM

Hinamori with her fire type zanpakutoh seems pretty strong to me. And Nanao doesn't look weak to me either. But mayuris VC(Nemu) sems to be realy weak

JamesThePhox

11-07-2005, 11:55 PM

I don't see why people think Oomaeda is weak. He fought ICHIGO! If you're calling Oomaeda weak, then obviously you guys must think Ichigo isn't something special.

This is a guy WHO BLEW UP THE SOUKYOUKU STAND! The one with the POWER OF 1000000 Zanpakutohs COMBINED! I'm not surprised if Tousen or Komamura would look weak against Ichigo.

Here's a good analogy. Take um... Komamura. And put him up against Byakuya. Obvious Byakuya would kill Komamura really quickly, if not in a few seconds. Ichigo has equal/higher speed and power as Byakuya. So if you're saying that Oomaeda, A VC, is supposed to stand up more than 3 seconds against Ichigo, then you have no perspective.

This goes along with Isane and the 1st Division Vice Captain. I can't stress this enough.

Nemu, was made by Mayuri to obey him. So, if she's getting wailed on by Mayuri, that doesn't make her weak, just obeying her commands. Plus, Mayuri is a Captain, no matter how badly I want him to die, he's not weak enough to get his ass handed to him by a VC, especially his own.

mungabungie13

11-07-2005, 11:56 PM

I think Yumichika, Soi Fong, and Kira have the cheapest shikai's in all of Soul Society

i think that theyre totally strategical and make up for things theyre not good at in fights

Saori

11-08-2005, 02:49 AM

Soi Fong's shikai is kinda.... but, she is good at fighting and everything else, so I guess it does make up for it.....

Z_Blitz

11-08-2005, 06:49 AM

So far, I think it is safe to assume that the 2nd division's vice captain (large dude with a weird shikai of his zanpaktu) is the weakest... The others are relatively strong though...

Saori

11-08-2005, 10:29 PM

That dude annoys me....

Captain BenZ

11-08-2005, 10:32 PM

I also have to agree that Soi Fong's VC is the weakest VC, I mean, look at the lub of tard, he's always eating!

SmallKid57

11-08-2005, 10:35 PM

i agree with JamesThePhox, i mean the fatguy fought Ichigo who is above captain lvl and i think ur forgetting that there is a huge difference between VC lvl and Captain lvl.
You can't really judge whose the weakest VC yet because we haven't really seen most of their abilities. Even though I said Nemu before, i guess that wasn't really fair b/c i haven't even seen her fight.

Nesquik

11-08-2005, 10:46 PM

aaaaaaaaaeeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu\
NANAO-CHAN!!!

Icarisain

11-12-2005, 06:22 AM

Injektilo

11-12-2005, 06:38 AM

This is quite strange because the impression I've been getting from the anime is that yeah only the Captains have Bankai, but my guess when watching it and first finding out about Bankai would have been that maybe 15 or 16 people at a time in SS would have Bankai and that those VC's who had it would be next in line for Captaincy.

That theory was kind of helped out by the flashback where Gin was Aizens VC, that couldn't have been more than 60 years back and Gins only been a Captain for about 50 years (Supposition really, but I think it's pretty informed even if it is only a guess) so I'd imagine he had Bankai then and obviously Byakuya and Hitsugaya must've come up through the ranks and had Bankai prior to being el capitanos and they all came up pretty close to each other so you may have had 3 VCs overlapping who all had Bankai.

However, the only mention we've had of Bankai from a present VC is Renji. I still think it'd be more realistic if a couple of VCs had Bankai also, but meh, maybe my logic is flawed.

Anyway, my guess would be that Nemu is the weakest, since I don't even think she's Shinigami.

P4rD0nM3

11-12-2005, 09:59 AM

Omg Die If You Say Isane.

sith29

11-12-2005, 11:54 AM

I think this depends on many things. Like what some people have said, we haven't really seen much of the vice captains in action, so we don't really know the big difference.

In my opinion, the effort each of them has made to become better is one deciding factor---Renji is able to use bankai because he trained for it and isn't it mentioned before that only captains (excluding Zaraki) are able to use bankai?

Gaining Bainkai is one of the ways of becoming captain. So all the captains now(except zaraki) have to gain bankai before they become captain. So Renji having bankai and being only VC is not a big deal. After achivieng bankai he is now firts in the line to captains promotion.And since 3 divisions don't have captains now its safe to asume that he will become captain of his own division in near future

chingning

11-12-2005, 01:20 PM

I would say the 1st div's vice. HAHA.

Bleach(ed)

11-12-2005, 01:30 PM

There isnt any weak vc or a weakest vc...how do u think they became a vc in the first place anyways...and for one thing we havent seen most of them fight so we cant really judge whose the weakest...one more thing...i dunnoe why u say soi fong's vc is weak...just because ichigo made him look weak?...lol ichigo is like the main character so therefore HE OWNS everbody in the anime...so i cant really say soi fong's vc is weak but he is weaker than ichigo thats for sure...

silverwolf801

11-12-2005, 06:30 PM

nano chan has to be the weakest vice Captain she is a book worm.

Zangetsu Tensa

11-12-2005, 06:42 PM

Nanao seems to be highly skilled in the demon arts, which is probably why she carries that book around. Nemu, however, is a fake body with a fake soul inside it, created for Mayuri's convenience. She's capable of some athletics, but the limit of her usefulness in battle seems to be grabbing onto an enemy so that Mayuri can get a good slash in at the both of them.

Polygon

11-12-2005, 06:58 PM

nano chan has to be the weakest vice Captain she is a book worm.

So? What does being a book worm have to de with being strong. I would have to say nemu, because she was created and not born.

silverwolf801

11-12-2005, 07:04 PM

Well maybe your right maybe nemu is the weakest but isn't sad how she is used by her own Captain.

T_Ichigo

11-12-2005, 09:21 PM

you can't state that she's the weakest when you haven't seen none of her skills ?? As you guys saw, mayuri had weird techiques .. for that reason we can't underestimate Nemu... and I dont think that Nanao isn't any book worm, we haven't seen her skills either .. As ar as I've seen .. Hisagi is the weakest because he lost to a seat of Zaraki's division .. and once again, dont say that he wasn't prepared hehehe

Zangetsu Tensa

11-12-2005, 09:31 PM

you can't state that she's the weakest when you haven't seen none of her skills ??
That's just the point - SHE DOESN'T HAVE ANY.

Mayuri would have had her skills against Ishida if she had any, but the only use he had for her was to grab onto Ishida and be a sacrifice. Mayuri is ruthless, but calculating and intelligent - he wouldn't waste Nemu like that unless he couldn't get any other use out of her.

Nemu is a fake body with a fake soul inside it. Such a thing wouldn't have any abilities. It's only slightly more combat-useful than a gigai; that is to say, almost not at all.

Injektilo

11-12-2005, 09:36 PM

She could be a Mod Soul, Kon said there were more powerful ones than himself. If she's not a Mod Soul then why the hell not? Why would Mayuri waste time creating something so useless?

silverwolf801

11-12-2005, 09:40 PM

So sad, So cold, yet true

Zangetsu Tensa

11-12-2005, 09:43 PM

She could be a Mod Soul, Kon said there were more powerful ones than himself. If she's not a Mod Soul then why the hell not? Why would Mayuri waste time creating something so useless?
Mod souls increase the power of limbs. Nemu clearly displays extreme flexibility, she can jump rather high, perform impressive acrobatics involving both arms and legs, and by human standards she's fairly formidable. But by Soul Society standards, that's nothing.

In fact, Nemu isn't even a shinigami, just a faux body and soul. She has no soul slayer - she's completely unarmed, lacking even the spellbook that Nanao carries around.

Mayuri created something utterly and completely loyal to him, useful as an assistant in his projects and also as something completely expendible in combat. Any of the other liuetenants should have no problem smoking her, either with weapons or demon magic.

the454casull

11-12-2005, 11:01 PM

Yeah, Nemu is pretty useless. but, then again, I really don't like Mayuri very much anyway. Every time he shows up, I wish somebody would walk by and randomly punch him in the face. anyway, back to nemu. I really do feel bad for the poor girl....shaped....umm.....thing??? she's stuck with with probably the oddest and most cruel guy in SS.

sith29

11-12-2005, 11:17 PM

Yeah she got realy bad lack to be stuck with this freaking bastard Mayuri( whant to kill him :angry: )

silverwolf801

11-12-2005, 11:20 PM

Well really she can leave him any time she wants but she fells loyalty to him for creating her.

SmallKid57

11-12-2005, 11:20 PM

yes... sith i feel ur pain...

wait hold on i gotta hurt u to make u feel my pain... now whered my bat go...

sith29

11-12-2005, 11:30 PM

yes... sith i feel ur pain...

wait hold on i gotta hurt u to make u feel my pain... now whered my bat go...

Ekhm.. I am starting to get doubts about you smallKid. You sure that you are feeling all right?? Maybe little punch will help :redbiggri

the454casull

11-12-2005, 11:38 PM

Small kid is nutz.....kinda like me!!!! that's why he's my bud!

Jinchuu

11-13-2005, 09:10 AM

Oh! I see a diversion.
Back to topic please...

Raku

11-13-2005, 09:15 AM

Out of what I've seen so far it's Nanao-chan - Looks like she's a Demon magic specialist ... i think o.O

Haven't seen her soul slayer so far so she seems like a easy target

sith29

11-13-2005, 02:13 PM

Out of what I've seen so far it's Nanao-chan - Looks like she's a Demon magic specialist ... i think o.O

Haven't seen her soul slayer so far so she seems like a easy target

She must have a Zanpakutou. She s a shinigmi afterall. And how can you say she is weak. You yuourself sid she looks like Demon Magic specialist( And she probably is one). Demon Magic used wise is very powerfull weapon. You can win useing just it. Just like Aizen in the flashback. He killed a Hollow without even useing zanpakutou. Just Demon Magic. And she is pretty good with shunpo. She keeped up with two captains when they were runing from execution ground.

Raku

11-13-2005, 02:30 PM

She must have a Zanpakutou. She s a shinigmi afterall. And how can you say she is weak. You yuourself sid she looks like Demon Magic specialist( And she probably is one). Demon Magic used wise is very powerfull weapon. You can win useing just it. Just like Aizen in the flashback. He killed a Hollow without even useing zanpakutou. Just Demon Magic. And she is pretty good with shunpo. She keeped up with two captains when they were runing from execution ground.

Yes, she gotta have a Zapakutou I agree on that point

This thread is about what of the Vice-captains is weakest when I then say that Nanao-chan is weakest (my opinion) doesnt mean she cant fight, not at all. All Vice-captains have to be strong at 1 point else they wouldn't be Vice-captains

When I said she was a Demon magic specialist I didnt meant to point at Demon magic suckin (which isnt true). Would be dumb to say since we all saw Aizen, just like you said, owning those hollows with Demon magic and Captain Kuchiki did the same to Renji - 2 Demon magics and Renji was in serious trouble

Like you also said she could almost keep up on the 2 captain's shunpos which is kinda amazin

no doubt that she is dangerous but I still think she is the weakest Vice-captain :whatevah:

_Ink

11-13-2005, 02:53 PM

sith29

11-13-2005, 02:56 PM

I Think The Weakest Of Vice Captain Still Gotta Be Nemu...damn She Is Weak...she Gets Sliced Twice And Falls...like Pathetic...she Doesn't Seem To Know How To Fight As Well.

Yes she is definitly the weakest. Compared to her Nano-chan looks much much stronger

_Ink

11-13-2005, 03:00 PM

Nanao Chan....i Think She Aint Any Better...she Gets A Stare And Falls..lol
But I Think She Still Have Character Left, At Least She Is Seemingly Proud And Controlled

On The Other Hand, Nemu Looks Like A Trailer Wife Who Gets Beaten By Her Husband All Day And Still Say Please Like Me, I Will Cook And Have Sex With You All You Want...

Raku

11-13-2005, 03:11 PM

So Far How Many Types Of Move Are There For The Demon Magics?
I Mean I Have Seen So Far In The Series About 5...?
Two From Byakuya
One From Aizen
Two From The Likes Of Rukia (blow In The Face)
I Think That Is....

I Think The Weakest Of Vice Captain Still Gotta Be Nemu...damn She Is Weak...she Gets Sliced Twice And Falls...like Pathetic...she Doesn't Seem To Know How To Fight As Well.

If you read the anime tru.. that is kinda strange way to say she's weak.. she has EXTREMLY good survival abilities.. the first hit extends to her lungs.. after that her captain go over and stamp on her.. not many captains can survive that

Polygon

11-13-2005, 03:30 PM

How can you say nanoa is weak just fro what happened with the general commander? That man is the ONLY commander in soul society. He is more than enoughf to take on any captian let alone any vice-captian. Remember how ichigo couls barley move when he first met kenpachi? It is similar to that exept to a higher degree. I dought even aizen could beat him as easily as he did ichigo

The only reason I say nemu is because she was made as a tool for the 12 division captian. She might be stronger then we know but this is my asumption.

Z_Blitz

11-13-2005, 03:38 PM

I think that she is probably stronger than what she looks... I mean Mayuri (May he rot in Hell!) has not even shown us her fighting capabilities... He only uses her as a tool for the perfection of his attacks... If you see one of the endings with the houki boshi song (Not sure which episode though) you get to see her moving around doing some fantastic martial arts... which is kinda impressive... No signs of a zanpakutoh which may mean that her zanpakutoh is the same as Mayuri (just a thought) since they are made of the same cells...

Saori

11-13-2005, 04:07 PM

To think that someone that came out of the same cells as Mayuri can be so different....

Z_Blitz

11-13-2005, 05:47 PM

Ya strange really I mean they have nothing in common at all! She's calm and seems helpful and caring... He on the other hand is nothing but a jerk! Bad manners... Mistreatment of his subordinates... Merciless...

Zangetsu Tensa

11-13-2005, 08:46 PM

I think that she is probably stronger than what she looks... I mean Mayuri (May he rot in Hell!) has not even shown us her fighting capabilities...
I've said this before and I'll say it again; SHE DOESN'T HAVE ANY. Mayuri is not stupid. He's ruthless indeed, but he's also calculating and intelligent - if Nemu had any more use than as a meat shield, he would have put her to that use. Instead he has her jump at the enemy as a distraction that he can cut through, which seems to indeed be the extent of her power.

No signs of a zanpakutoh which may mean that her zanpakutoh is the same as Mayuri (just a thought) since they are made of the same cells...
I explained this before; she doesn't have a soul slayer because only Shinigamis weild soul slayers, and she is NOT a Shinigami. She's just a faux body with a faux soul inside it - more physically capable than a human, but unable to hold a candle to normal vice-captains. She's completely unarmed, and unlike Yoruichi, she has no abilities to make up for this.

Raku

11-13-2005, 08:49 PM

I've said this before and I'll say it again; SHE DOESN'T HAVE ANY. Mayuri is not stupid. He's ruthless indeed, but he's also calculating and intelligent - if Nemu had any more use than as a meat shield, he would have put her to that use. Instead he has her jump at the enemy as a distraction that he can cut through, which seems to indeed be the extent of her power.

I explained this before; she doesn't have a soul slayer because only Shinigamis weild soul slayers, and she is NOT a Shinigami. She's just a faux body with a faux soul inside it - more physically capable than a human, but unable to hold a candle to normal vice-captains. She's completely unarmed, and unlike Yoruichi, she has no abilities to make up for this.

o.O You sound really sure about this - Can i ask where you know it from?

Zangetsu Tensa

11-13-2005, 09:02 PM

o.O You sound really sure about this - Can i ask where you know it from?
It's explicitly stated that Nemu is a combination of Mayuri's faux body and faux spirit technology - meaning she's basically an animated doll. The most favorable assessment of her power is perhaps to compare her to an advanced type of mod soul. If we're generous and go with that, then Nemu would merely have enhanced physical abilities - and indeed what we've seen supports this. She has great flexibility, she can jump quite high, and is capable of some great acrobatics.

By human standards, that's quite impressive. But by shinigami standards, that's nothing. As a synthetic person, Nemu has no mastery over magic, no weapon - essentially nothing but her physical self. Regular vice-captains should have absolutely no problem cutting her up.

Nemu holds her position only because she was designed to be utterly and completely loyal to Mayuri, and is therefore someone he can trust implicitly as an assistant in his experiments and as a sacrifice in combat.

Raku

11-13-2005, 09:11 PM

o.O You got a good memory dude

nothin more I can say than you're probably right

SmallKid57

11-13-2005, 10:20 PM

yea, after reading that guys summary, im persuaded nemu is the weakest.

i dont get y ppl think nanao is weak. we haven't really even see her punch someone. i bet she's a slapper. u no those grls who get pissed so they go up to a guy and slaps them and leaves this red handprint on the guys cheek? yea...ouch... :sad:

Fariswheel

11-13-2005, 11:32 PM

I think that nanao's zanpakuto is in her book as a book mark or something which would be cool.

SmallKid57

11-14-2005, 12:01 AM

that'd be...nerdy...

Zangetsu Tensa

11-14-2005, 12:08 AM

That's actually a good theory - better than the one postulating that her book IS her zanpaku-to. The idea that her zanpaku-to might be concealed inside her book is new to me.

Fariswheel

11-14-2005, 12:13 AM

I thought that up when she opened the book up andnothing happened, so i thought thatit couldn't be her Zanpukato.

Zangetsu Tensa

11-16-2005, 04:29 AM

I just noticed something about Nanao. In episode 55 when they're confronting Yama-jii, Nanao says "All I can do...is one thing." And then she reaches inside her uniform to get something.

However, we never see what it is that she was reaching for and what it was that she was going to do, because it's at that exact moment that she gets held down by Yama-jii's reiatsu.

Could she have been reaching for her zanpaku-to?

sith29

11-16-2005, 02:12 PM

the454casull

11-16-2005, 08:39 PM

Maybe but her zanpakutou would be a small knife then. She couldn't have anything bigger there( except her boobs :LOL: )
Actually, that is a possibility. in Early Japan, most women who wanted to carry a wepon for protection would carry a Tanto (Knife/dagger) inside their kimono to keep it concealed. Also, if you think about it, wasn't Ichimaru's Zanpaku-to a Wakizashi (Short sword)? so it would make sense that SOMEONE would carry a tanto.

MVIK

11-16-2005, 08:47 PM

Errr... if u dont mind me, seems like this is going out of the topic.... *squeking as a mouse*
Nieway, if u're asking who's the weakest VC, i'll say no one. We havent see all the VC's in action yet so we wont know about it. Even if we seen it, all of them would be equal...

silverwolf801

11-16-2005, 09:52 PM

Please hinamori would beat them all

SmallKid57

11-16-2005, 10:21 PM

lol hinamori would win b/c she would get hitsugaya to fight for her since hitsugaya would do anything for her!!! ok that sounded...mushy...

ProphetX

11-16-2005, 10:31 PM

I know that Abarai is the strongest.
The rest are the weakest on the same level. XD

Hizashi

11-16-2005, 11:22 PM

I like grapes! They're so tasty, 'specially in jello.....oh, er, I get the feeling that Kira is a feeb, maybe just his personality tho.

silverwolf801

11-19-2005, 05:04 AM

That's true abarai would beat every single vice captain

zembu

11-19-2005, 07:24 AM

from what weve seen i would have to say nano but thats only from what ive seen

silverwolf801

11-19-2005, 07:27 AM

of course nano is so weak

bebe50UL

11-19-2005, 07:30 AM

i would say soi fong's VC

zembu

11-19-2005, 07:31 AM

lol hes kind of like chouji from naruto

XcoldstarX

11-19-2005, 04:57 PM

hinamori????

silverwolf801

11-19-2005, 07:49 PM

Hinamori has that type of rage thing going for her

zembu

11-19-2005, 07:55 PM

hinamori????
hinamori is 5th division VC

Soukatsui

11-19-2005, 09:46 PM

We really don't know who is the weakest VC but for those who think that Nanao and Nemu don't have a Zanpakutoh I believe thats not right. Remember that it was mentioned that besides Zaraki no one has ever been able to join the gotei13 without being able to release their zanpakutoh's. Simply because we haven't seen then does not mean they don't exist.

Nemu was simply following previously given orders when she grabbed Ishida to get them noth slashed. So after having your arms and legs paralyzed you really can't show off you're abilities.

There are more reasons but I don't want to spoil the story for those who haven't read the manga

zembu

11-19-2005, 10:02 PM

i agree with Soukatsui just because you dont carry a sword doesnt mean you dont have one

lmegera

11-20-2005, 02:33 AM

Personally, I think its Kiyone... since she doesnt really do anything but get drunk and be "funny" and insult her co-vice captain...
*sniffle* bring Shiba Kaien back...

zembu

11-20-2005, 04:04 AM

yeah he seemed like he would be a really cool VC to work with

akin_t

11-20-2005, 08:49 PM

Nanao chan is always with a book anytime I see her. Is that book like her soul slayer or something?

SmallKid57

11-20-2005, 08:52 PM

we really cant judge whose the weakest b/c we haven't seen all of them in action yet... so unless ur kubotite or one of his friends/coworkers than u really dont no...

janti

11-20-2005, 08:54 PM

I don't think Nemu is that weak.
Mayrui doesn't seem the type go to all the trouble to make himself a "daughter" that wouldn't be able to hurt a bowl of pudding.

My guess is that Hinamori is the weakest vice-captain.
since Aizen didn't choose her for her strength or capabilities as a vice-captain...

SmallKid57

11-20-2005, 08:56 PM

that still doesn't necessarily mean she's weak...

Bleach Addict

11-20-2005, 09:03 PM

in my opinion hinamori or nemu is the weakest. but i think nemu is a lil weaker, but hey thas just me

SmallKid57

11-20-2005, 09:33 PM

it could be possible that Nemu is really a super killing machine with various weapons... she actually mite be a doomsday device herself!!! hey... i mean mayuri built her... anything can happen...

janti

11-20-2005, 09:41 PM

For some strange reason i know have this mental image of a Fembot Nemu o_O

sith29

11-21-2005, 12:43 AM

it could be possible that Nemu is really a super killing machine with various weapons... she actually mite be a doomsday device herself!!! hey... i mean mayuri built her... anything can happen...

You mean that she is like pupets in naruto?? Packed with hidden weapons evrywhere??

SmallKid57

11-21-2005, 01:32 AM

thats exactly wut im saying

Yachiru_chan

11-22-2005, 04:16 AM

Hmm... you would think then that when Mayuri was fighting Ishida she would have done more than just get poisoned and lie there though if that was the case. Of course, he may have made some modifications...

zembu

11-22-2005, 04:18 AM

yeah what yachiru_chan says makes more sense. if she were like a naruto puppet why would he just send her in to get hit like that when she some complex fighting machine

CrInd

11-23-2005, 07:49 AM

There's no point in saying who is the weakest, because there is no actual standard about it. They haven't fought each other, some of them only got-what?-one panel to show up in? The strongest is obviously Renji. The weakest? We don't know. We can't just say who is the weakest just because they don't carry a zanpakuto.