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A2k
11-17-2005, 05:30 PM
This is a far out theory, but there are a lot of bits and peices that could suggest such a possibility.

The initial spark that instigated this thought was This thread (http://www.forums.bleachportal.net/forum/showthread.php?t=5310).

When I saw the thread above, it reminded me of This thread (http://www.forums.bleachportal.net/forum/showthread.php?t=2458).

Now, thinking about what Nekks said, and what we know about arrancado's, the possibility is both intruiging and out of this world. o.O

The original poster of the above thread in the manga section thought that those sketchs could be that of Kenpachi in Ban Kai mode, but what's to say it isn't him having transformed as an arrancado?

Sumfps and I were musing over this, and we figured he would have to have a hole somewhere for it to even be plausible, and the only place we don't see, is the bandaged section of his waistband in his stomach area. It's never actually uncovered.

He would have to have learned the name of his Soul Slayer, and we haven't had this confirmed or denyed yet, why?

His reiatsu symbol was that of a skull, why?

I'm not saying this is how it is, I'm just saying it is a very plausible theory. o.Ó

Discuss.

Z_Blitz
11-17-2005, 05:53 PM
OK... I've seen both threads... and this is what I think...
The monster in the picture sure looks like Kenpachi, but I'm pretty sure he isn't... I mean he's too monsterous, even in comparison to Kenpachi... Besides Bankai is usually bigger than the user (Ichigo is an exception),and is separated from the user (Shinigamis at least) that pic shows some arrancar (or whatever they are called) in his shikai (just like the one that is fighting Ikkaku at the moment)... could be the one that Ichigo will be fighting in the next chapter or something... But assuming its Kenpachi is totally illogical... Unless we assume that Kenpachi was on par with Aizen, Tousen and Gin and has planned to catch up with them to attain a different kind of power that'll allow him to reach Shikai/Bankai level... The assumption that the person in the picture resembles Kenpachi is true... but the assumption that it IS Kenpachi is not even slightly close to being true...

brolijc
11-17-2005, 06:09 PM
what i think is, Kenpachi might have already known the name of his sword, but perharps through his stuborness of not working with his Zanpakutoh, the Zanpakutoh might so called already be "dead"... so maybe he needs some time to actually get to know it again

A2k
11-17-2005, 06:09 PM
Z_blitz; The theory was that Kenpachi could be an arrancado.

Not that the sketches were his BanKai.

We know that there is no confirmation of it being Kenpachi you're assuming I said it IS, I didn't. It looks like him there is no deneying that; is what actually said. It can't be an assumption for him to look like Kenpachi, if he actually does look like Kenpachi.

You yourself said it looks more like an arrancardo than Kenpachi.

Kenpachi wants his fight with Ichigo and Ichigo would be far superior than Zaraki currently is, with him having BanKai and his hollow side.

Kenpachi being an arrancado is a possible theory.

brolijc
11-17-2005, 06:12 PM
so what your trying to say here is that Kenpachi was a hollow who attained Shinigami powers or a Shinigami who attained hollow powers?

A2k
11-17-2005, 06:15 PM
More likey; (IF it is a theory that plays out to be right) Shinigami to hollow than the other way around.

It is possible, unlikey, but plausible, and no less possible.

hasuke
11-17-2005, 06:36 PM
I dunno, it could be a possibility, explaining the uber reiatsu and the fact he can fight well without resorting to kidou and junk.

However that guy's picture is on a page for the upcoming OVA, so he's probably some random dude. However, there is some stuff about Zaraki that's still a little shadey.

Namely his sword. It looks exactly like the one he wielded before he became a shinigami. now maybe the zanpakutou took the form of the weapon he was used to wielding. Either way, thats not the case. Back to topic.

It could be possible, though...

brolijc
11-17-2005, 06:40 PM
ok in the scan above, i doubt that is Kenpachi, he has no scar on his face... also, Kenpachi possessing so much reiastu isn't that surprising... we seen him in the flashback, not a captain yet, how did he become so powerful? in my view, he is like Ichigo, he is born with high reiatsu, we will use the Ishida theory for Ichigo here... At that time, Kenpachi might be at its turned off state, as time passes, the state started turning on, maybe because of his stubornness of working with his Zanpakutoh, he himself started turning strong, reiatsu increased etc. or perharps, he was already that strong when in the flashback

Byakuya7
11-17-2005, 08:00 PM
Wow this board is kinda slow...Thats not Kenpachi, its Baishin. Hes from the OVA sealed sword frenzy thats going to be made early next year.

Polygon
11-17-2005, 08:07 PM
I have always wondered about the skull. I think he has something to do with hollows but not a arrancer or vaizard. Also how did he have a zanpakyou before he was a shinigami?

A2k
11-17-2005, 08:23 PM
We know the sketches are for the ova, the Sealed sword frenzy, that's nothing that is unknown.

Bashin being a character created out of thin air, could be based on santa clause for all that is known.

As he looks similar in facial expressions to that of Kenpachi, there could be correlation there.

Supposedly the ova has no connection to the storyline at all, which would make sense for certain reasons, but to have it completely detatched from anything would essentially warrent it not having anything to do with Bleach logically, and therefore not be associated with bleach at all...why not call it something like Bashin's...*shrug* something or other.

Z_Blitz
11-17-2005, 08:57 PM
Z_blitz; The theory was that Kenpachi could be an arrancado.[/u].Well even if that was the theory its still impossible! For Kenpachi to be an arrancado as the theory claims means that Aizen has obtained that thing from Rukia that allows the change of hollows to shinigami and vice versa, which he hasn't until he left! And Kenpachi wasn't even with him... So I guess its again not feasible... And that guy that resembles Kenpachi turned out to be a new guy? Banshin heh? Oh well... seems like it disproves your theory eh?

Byakuya7
11-18-2005, 12:31 AM
A2k some of your logic seems to be misplaced. Baishin was not simply created out of thin air. The whole idea behind the storyline "Sealed Sword Frenzy" is that Baishin is supposed to be kenpachis brother. Kubo Tite himself created the character design for Baishin especially for the OVA. The correlation between the facial expressions is obvious as it even states that kenpachi is one of the characters that will be appearing mainly in the OVA, so there has to be some sort of connection between Zaraki and Baishin.

Sandal Hat
11-18-2005, 12:42 AM
Zaraki was in Soul Society when we saw him in the flashbacks and that means he can't be a hollow because he has been cleansed or was born in SS also yachiru and ichigo both have those demon like form when they power up. I think its just kubo's way drawing spiritual energy

bladeslayer
11-18-2005, 01:14 AM
A2k some of your logic seems to be misplaced. Baishin was not simply created out of thin air. The whole idea behind the storyline "Sealed Sword Frenzy" is that Baishin is supposed to be kenpachis brother. Kubo Tite himself created the character design for Baishin especially for the OVA. The correlation between the facial expressions is obvious as it even states that kenpachi is one of the characters that will be appearing mainly in the OVA, so there has to be some sort of connection between Zaraki and Baishin.

acually no every said the kenpachi abd baishin were related.

iBankai
11-18-2005, 08:39 AM
I think that yachiru has something to do with zarakis zanpakutou. Maybe shes just the materialised state of his zanpakutou? Zaraki gave yachiru her name so it had to come from somewhere? unless theres a good meaning to it?
When we see the flashback everyone who was dead and zaraki where in rags while yachiru was in a clean komono.
Zaraki was in the crappiest area in SS and i doubt someone could afford to buy yachiru a komono as they couldnt even get food. Renji and rukia where from a slightly better part and they were also in rags!

Nakks
11-18-2005, 09:02 AM
Maybe He's Something More Than Hollow Or Shinigami Or Arrancar Or Vaizard
Maybe hes Some Piece Of Crap Created By Hell,We've Explored Every Part Of Bleach Except Hell Ever Thought Of That.Zaraki Maybe A Demon That Escaped From Hell Into Soul society Explaining His Retarded Amount Of Reiatsu,To Explain The Looks Something That Escaped From Hell Can Get That Looks Trust Me Lol
But Zaraki's Retarded Reiatsu Could Gain Him Lots Of things Muahhahaha! Knock A Girl Out With My Demonic Reiatsu And Then hehehe

InsaneShiyn
11-18-2005, 04:56 PM
what other info is there on the OVA?

Sgt.Reaper
11-18-2005, 05:58 PM
Well i agree with those that think that Yachiru have something to do with it. There have to be a connection, who was it he named her after?

One thing that hit me is that Zaraki dont trust his sword becouse iut "betrayed" him. He felt the sword let him down and therefore is ignoring it. The name could very well be Yachiru(the zanpaktous) and he gave the littel girl the same name in memory of the bond he once had with Yachiru(zanpaktou).

Another possibel solution to why the sword and Zaraki wont communicate is it aint his.
Think about it all the others never had zanpaktous before joining the academy. What if the sword aint his, and he therefor cant use it properly. Why was he abel to materialize his sword before bekoming shinigami and no one else?
And if the thing about Baishin being his brother or something, it can be his sword, like zarakis brother died and zaraki took his sword in search for revenge.

But this are just my own crazy/wild theorys.

Bleach(ed)
11-18-2005, 06:01 PM
lol...u can wield other shinigamis zanpuku-to?

Dooh
11-18-2005, 09:32 PM
The picture isn't Kenpachi tho it can be someone related, and I can't belive that he tries to gain other powers then his own(that's why he never tried to talk with his zanpuku-to).

When the skull apeared it meant he was longing for death. As from the start when we had heard so much about ichigo he was estatic and that's why Ichigo felt his bloodlust.

suckafish
11-19-2005, 11:13 AM
what the **** is "arrancado"? its spelled "arrancar". how did you mess up the spelling THAT BADLY?

Polygon
11-19-2005, 12:23 PM
what the **** is "arrancado"? its spelled "arrancar". how did you mess up the spelling THAT BADLY?

There is more than one spelling you know.

A2k
11-19-2005, 01:25 PM
A2k some of your logic seems to be misplaced. Baishin was not simply created out of thin air. The whole idea behind the storyline "Sealed Sword Frenzy" is that Baishin is supposed to be kenpachis brother.

If that isn't created out of thin air...then I don't know what is. By created out of thin air, I mean it has no correlation to the story as we have seen it progress, and thusly appears from nothing. As there's no evidence of Kenpachi having a brother in Bleach...dun...dun...dun...it was created out of thin air, for the purpose of the ova.

Kubo Tite himself created the character design for Baishin especially for the OVA.

You even back it up there.

what the **** is "arrancado"? its spelled "arrancar". how did you mess up the spelling THAT BADLY?

Check your information...then try and critticise me on the correct spelling.

The "Arrancar" are all worded around Spanish variations of words, and resultantly the supposed correct spelling of Arrancar is Arrancado. So I never spelt anything badly at all, you just failed to think or read before posting.

With the information that has been produced so far in this thread, it would make sense that my initial idea was far from true, mainly due to the information Sandal Hat provided. (The fact that the picture is from the ova has no bearing as it was coincidence that I even related that to the idea)

So, if it's not possible that he is Arrancado, then what about the possibility of him being a hybrid like Ichigo. We already know that they share many similar traits, and such a suggestion might explain his excessively high Reiatsu as is with Ichigo.

suckafish
11-19-2005, 02:59 PM
ah okay, i apologize then.

as for your post, i agree that his bankai will probably look similar to bashin. it seems logical with an appearance change, kenpachi would get crazier looking which is basically the way bashin was drawn